WEBVTT - Idiocracy

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<v Speaker 1>On the Beck dol Cast, the questions asked if movies

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<v Speaker 1>have women in them? Are all their discussions just boyfriends

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<v Speaker 1>and husbands? Do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef invest

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<v Speaker 1>start changing it with the beck Del Cast. Hey, Jamie, Hey, Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh geez, we just woke up from being in a

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<v Speaker 1>cryopod and society around us is terrible. But it always

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<v Speaker 1>has been, so not anything different. But wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably the Well I'm only interested in pursuing this story.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's the working class is fault, well you're in

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<v Speaker 1>luck because if the one percent is implicated in this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking. Okay, well I'm walking today's movie. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it's about. So okay. Welcome to the Beach Dol Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jamie Loft, as my name is Caitlin Durante,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is our show where we examine movies through

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<v Speaker 1>an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechel tests simply as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a jumping off point. And this week you'll

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<v Speaker 1>notice is we're releasing this the week of the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July, uh national holiday that gets more and more

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous with each passing year. The only good thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth of July is Joey chestnut that has been

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<v Speaker 1>canonically true for decades at this point now. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about this making this episode for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to find, you know, kind of either we

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<v Speaker 1>were between like, oh, we can find a really classically

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<v Speaker 1>jingoistic movie to kind of cover in debunk, or we

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<v Speaker 1>can try to find, you know, a famous American satire

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<v Speaker 1>to cover for this week. And since we made that decision, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we've just been we've just been losing our rights, Miranda rights,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know them, the right to an abortion gone. Just

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, if if you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if you're not American, you're probably aware that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's particularly dystopian these past few weeks, years, decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like it's a particularly interesting time

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<v Speaker 1>to take a look at the movie. So all that

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I just think it's uh for preamble, we

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<v Speaker 1>chose to cover this movie before the most recent avalanche

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<v Speaker 1>of lost rights, and I feel like it coincidentally ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being kind of an interesting discussion because we are

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<v Speaker 1>covering the movie Idiocracy today, a movie that has been

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<v Speaker 1>discussed a lot in the past, decade, and now that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it, I don't understand why. But first we

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<v Speaker 1>have some housekeeping to cover that being what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>is that Bettel Test you were talk about, Caitlin Rante,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, Jamie loftis. It is a media metric

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<v Speaker 1>created by Alison Becktel, sometimes called the Becktel Wallace Test,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are many different versions of it. The one

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<v Speaker 1>we use, we've we've put our little flourishes on the

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<v Speaker 1>test over the years, and our version is two characters

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<v Speaker 1>of a marginalized gender have to have names, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to each other, and their conversation has to

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<v Speaker 1>be about something other than a man, and ideally that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation is narratively relevant and narratively meaningful. So this this

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<v Speaker 1>week is actually, you know, kind of a doozy as

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<v Speaker 1>it pertains to that metric. It's interesting because we are

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<v Speaker 1>also recording an episode about the Minions this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the Minions technically Despicable Me. But I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>for our Minions episode. But I was watching Idiocracy and

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<v Speaker 1>Minions media because I you know, recovering, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, tacit plug for the Matreon Patreon. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course we are covering Despicable Me this month. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I think is interesting watching Idiocracy and Minions media back

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<v Speaker 1>to back kind of is you get two very different

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<v Speaker 1>interpretations of what a society of bumbling men would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>And Honey, I prefer the Minions every time because at least,

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<v Speaker 1>oh about I'm about to it sucks because I really

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely love the vast majority of my judge's work, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least the Minions are making me laugh. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say the same for Idiocracy. Minions hilarious. Idiocracy

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<v Speaker 1>really was bumming me out in a wild way. Um So, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our, this is our, this is I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a classic Bechtel cast at episode of taking something

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone keeps saying is good and being like, actually

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<v Speaker 1>actually be very good. But guess but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>argue with the wall, We're right, Um that's there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to tell to say to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Um, but I will say and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into this, but just is a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>preface that, yeah, I see what this movie was going

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<v Speaker 1>for and at the time I liked it. When I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in two thousand six as a college sophomore.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about it, so, like, what is your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with this? So I saw it when it came out,

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<v Speaker 1>because it came out sometime in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in college at the time. I was already

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<v Speaker 1>a huge Office Space fan. It was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies at the time, so I was already

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<v Speaker 1>team Mike Judge and I saw this movie. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the time in the mid two thousand's when I when

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<v Speaker 1>my critical thinking skills and comedic sensibilities and cultural sensibilities

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<v Speaker 1>were not quite as sophisticated as they are today. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like, don't be hard on yourself because this

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<v Speaker 1>is like part of what's interesting about looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>movie now is like how again, it's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that this movie is uniquely pushing this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>comedic point of view. I feel like this is this

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<v Speaker 1>lines up really closely with like a lot of Bush

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<v Speaker 1>era comedy. Is like that we all thought was funny

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, right, or at least many of us

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people thought was funny. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>also see I feel like this movie is a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of how the kind of aggressive apathy of this

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<v Speaker 1>style of comedy probably had, you know, not the biggest hand,

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<v Speaker 1>not as big a hand as fucking villainous policy see

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<v Speaker 1>and disenfranchise, But I do, I do see how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this brand of comedy in its day served to further

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<v Speaker 1>polarize people in a way that I don't think was

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<v Speaker 1>like really recognized at the time, because how why would

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<v Speaker 1>it have been recognized the time? Right? Yeah, So all

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<v Speaker 1>I say, don't be don't be hard in yourself. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was loving this ship like it's true. It's true. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I I liked it at the time, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really engage with it after that first maybe one or

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<v Speaker 1>two viewings in the mid two thousand's. But I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to talk further. And again, just as a preface, I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what the movie was going for looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it through our lens. A lot of it, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the satire, a lot of the attempted satire, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not executed very well, and maybe just throws a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of groups of people under the bus. Anyway, Jamie, what

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<v Speaker 1>is your relationship with this movie? Okay, so I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to be harder in this movie because it feels

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<v Speaker 1>uniquely designed to make me frustrated. Um, but okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I for context. I had not seen this movie before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have considered myself to be a Mic Judge

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<v Speaker 1>fan since I was basically a kid. Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>very I was kind of a latecomer to King of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hill. But I've now seen a lot of King

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<v Speaker 1>of the Hill, and I really love King of the Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Not an unpopular opinion at all. It's a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>But I grew up with Beavis and butt Head. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad was a huge Beavis and butt Head fad. We

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<v Speaker 1>had it on a lot. Yeah, shout out. My key

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<v Speaker 1>did refine my taste very young. It was all pee

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<v Speaker 1>weee and Beavis and butt Head, and I'm eternally grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I've got Beavis and butt Head. March. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the new Paramount Plus movie the day it came out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. I didn't even know that was a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I do work for Paramount, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reminded, But it's really good. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>highly like all that to say. I watched all of

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley and I didn't even really like it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like loyal to Mike Judge because I

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<v Speaker 1>like his work. I like Office Space, like he's made

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<v Speaker 1>so much amazing stuff and so, but I had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen Idiocracy. All that to say, I went into this

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<v Speaker 1>movie expecting to like it because I like Mike judges work.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the only thing I knew like the basic premise

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<v Speaker 1>of like it's a future American dystopia, and I also

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<v Speaker 1>knew and I think that this is like I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got like more stuff for this later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the discussion. But I also feel like this movie just

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<v Speaker 1>every couple of hours someone will tweet Idiocracy was a documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was their idea, Like that is literally tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>every forty five seconds by someone who is like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a genius, and it's like, okay, first of all, i

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<v Speaker 1>Q is bunk an issue this movie has that I

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<v Speaker 1>have been studying for years. But anyways, part of what

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<v Speaker 1>I love about Mike Judge's work is that he has

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<v Speaker 1>this like way of showing characters whose like views are

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<v Speaker 1>regressive and whose feel King of the Hill is the

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<v Speaker 1>best example of it. But like who are like goofy

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<v Speaker 1>people who you would disagree with that most people would

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with, showing them with context and enough empathy that

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I understand how this person got here, and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a more productive, empathetic piece of art.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was just really surprised that like Idiocracy

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<v Speaker 1>was so heartless in its views and it just like

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<v Speaker 1>it just felt like a real I don't know. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, Idiocracy is not a documentary, you fucking dorks. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but like for us, of all, not an original thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Second of all, not true. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of I didn't like the movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was really bumped. I didn't like the movie from

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<v Speaker 1>the first scene because of and you know, hashtag stream

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<v Speaker 1>my urine mensa. But like, yeah, the fact that this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this movie, like it's weird, because I totally

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you, Caitlin. I do think that it was

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a good place, and I think for its

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<v Speaker 1>time it is I don't know, for its time. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand why it was considered to be like controversial satire,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand why people saw value in it, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the era that it came out in, which I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this movie was being shot and eventually released in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the George W. Bush administration, when it

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<v Speaker 1>did seem like society was heading towards us place a

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<v Speaker 1>certain place, and it's also like that wasn't wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's it's whatever. My opinions aside. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a kind of a very very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>movie to look at to see like what were center

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<v Speaker 1>to left leaning people viewing the people around them like

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<v Speaker 1>at this time. And I feel like this movie really

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like we were both you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I I was, I definitely just you know, at this

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<v Speaker 1>movie came out when I was like in middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't like hear about it at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but like we both two thousand and six, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're senior citizens. We were there, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>remember this a lot, and I would like even kind

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<v Speaker 1>of group this. And I know that I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>like the quality of jokes are the same across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would kind of group this in the like

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<v Speaker 1>John Stewart Daily Show era of comedy, back when my

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<v Speaker 1>aunt would fucking die for Bill Mara unfortunately kind of

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<v Speaker 1>comedy of like kind of like god left leaning ish

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<v Speaker 1>comedy of which there was a lot at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>like even early Colbert Report. Even though I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of the best of all of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean, like it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific moment in comedy and like satire, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to look back on. I really didn't like this movie. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk more about it, shall we? Yeah? Okay, sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for like going on. I just was. I was so shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so you know, like when you really love a

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<v Speaker 1>creator and you have like a creepy little para social

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<v Speaker 1>connection to them, and it's like, how dare I not

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<v Speaker 1>like this? But I I again, I because it there

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<v Speaker 1>was such a big gap between when I first saw

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<v Speaker 1>it and now I had just forgotten about all the

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly problematic jokes and humor, like let's tacitly endorse eugenics.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying like Judge was like actively recognizing that

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<v Speaker 1>that is some people are just born inferior. That we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, We'll get there. Let's talk about what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie because there and there are also were

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<v Speaker 1>some like specific jokes that I laughed at. Some things work,

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the commentary does work. A lot of it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Carl's Junior stuff worked for me, The Brondo stuff, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of like commentary on capitalism and consumerism worked. Yes, Um, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what the story is about. The movie opens on

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<v Speaker 1>voiceover discussing how as we entered we being society entered

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<v Speaker 1>the century, human evolution was at a turning point where

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent people quote unquote were reproducing less and quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>less intelligent people. And these quote unquotes are from me

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<v Speaker 1>and not the movie. So the movie is saying intelligent

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<v Speaker 1>people stopped producing as much, and less intelligent people were

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<v Speaker 1>multiplying more than ever. Blood pressure is in peril. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is how the movie is framing this.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get like this whole montage where we meet

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<v Speaker 1>these two couples. You know, one is more intelligent and

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<v Speaker 1>they're coded a certain way. The other couple is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>less intelligent quote unquote. They're coded a very particular way.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it, but I mean it's literally like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like grad school. I mean, not to put you in

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<v Speaker 1>a box, but like, you know, people who have been

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<v Speaker 1>to college multiple times versus like it's coded as like

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote trailer trash. Exactly. Yes, yes, yes, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>we meet these characters and the whole thing is the

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<v Speaker 1>characters who are coded poor are reproducing at a higher

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<v Speaker 1>rate anyway. Then we meet Joe Bowers played by Luke Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an army librarian who has been selected to

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<v Speaker 1>be used as a human guinea pig for a military

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<v Speaker 1>experiment in which soldiers will be frozen and then on

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<v Speaker 1>frozen at a later date to be used for future

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<v Speaker 1>wars or something. I'm not really sure, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that Chris what was that? Dogshit Chris Pratt? Like Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>Prime movie was like the Tomorrow War. He was he

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<v Speaker 1>was being deep frozen for Chris Pratt, the Tomorrow War. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that? I know what you're talking about. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see it. Sorry, Sunny, Sunny. So Sunny's here right

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<v Speaker 1>now and he is like looking at me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like we can communicate telepathically, and he is saying, you bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Comma Idiocracy is a documentary because well, yeah, I'm Sunny

0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the dog fucking loves centrist. He won't back down. He

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<v Speaker 1>won't back down. He's like, I tweeted it and I

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<v Speaker 1>meant it. Sonny, you were wrong for that. Continue Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Joe is selected for this experiment because he has

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<v Speaker 1>no family, and he's also just extremely average across the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>They have also selected a woman for this experiment, a

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<v Speaker 1>sex worker named Rita played by my Rudolph, and the

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<v Speaker 1>plan is to freeze them both for one year uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then on freeze them. But Officer Collins, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who is leading this experiment, is fired and the project

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<v Speaker 1>is completely forgotten about. So Joe and Rita stay frozen

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<v Speaker 1>for five hundred years while oh no, while society around

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<v Speaker 1>them descends into shambles. The cryopods that Joe and Rita

0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.440
<v Speaker 1>were in ended up in a landfill, but a huge

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<v Speaker 1>garbage avalanche shoots Joe's Paul Odd into the living room

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<v Speaker 1>of Freedo played by Dax Shepherd. Kind of incredible. I

0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have strong opinions on Dak Shepherd, but you're just like,

0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.960
<v Speaker 1>but you see him in this role and you're like, yeah,

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that was good casting. Yes, look when we're not punching

0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.359
<v Speaker 1>down because his his podcast is like nine times more

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 1>popular than ours. So right, relax, good job, Dax. Freedo

0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.040
<v Speaker 1>is watching a show about a guy who is just

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<v Speaker 1>hit in the balls repeatedly to give you an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what entertainment and pop culture is like in this society.

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<v Speaker 1>Five years later, So Joe wakes up. He's all disoriented,

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<v Speaker 1>and Friedo tosses him out onto the streets, and Joe

0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 1>stumbles around town. He notices that society has crumbled into

0:18:52.480 --> 0:19:00.480
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote idiocracy, where where the restaurant form really known

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<v Speaker 1>as food ruckers is now called butt fuckers. Okay, try

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<v Speaker 1>as I may. I can't not be like, Okay, I'm giggling.

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not a good joke. It's maybe the laziest

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>joke of all time. And also because of the strong

0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:26.040
<v Speaker 1>no homo energy to this movie, it feels but and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're just also like, I mean, I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're given so little, so little things that I

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.199
<v Speaker 1>was laughing at. Yeah, I would say it's it's not

0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.399
<v Speaker 1>a very good joke, and yet it's maybe one of

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the better jokes of this movie. Like to give you

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<v Speaker 1>an idea, Yeah, that's what I like. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the bar is on the floor, and because

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it's Mike Judge, the bar is like beneath the crust

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth. Like you're just like, but you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is interesting in the frame of

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<v Speaker 1>being reactionary. Common terry from two thousand six, We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to how Mike Judge engages with people's modern takes on

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.119
<v Speaker 1>idiocracy in a bit, because I think that's very interesting. Um, okay, okay,

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.800
<v Speaker 1>but so but fucker's As a restaurant, people mostly speak

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 1>in unintelligible grunts. A green sports drink called Brondo comes

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 1>out of water fountains instead of water. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>things in society now. Joe doesn't feel well. He thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he's hallucinating because of the drugs the army gave him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't know that it's five years in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes to a hospital five years of summer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's how I'm going to start describing global warming summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm I like it. No, no, no, not to be

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<v Speaker 1>joked around about. But yet, what are we supposed to do? Okay?

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.640
<v Speaker 1>We laugh, so we don't cry, right, and we still cry,

0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:00.959
<v Speaker 1>and we still later at night when we're alone. So

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<v Speaker 1>Joe goes to a hospital and sees doctor Justin Long.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. We've covered so many movies in the

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<v Speaker 1>like mid to late two thousand's where Justin Long like

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<v Speaker 1>is just becoming of is becoming an influencer of his time. Yeah,

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I've come all the way around. I'm just like Justin

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Long kind of a cultural icon, whether I like it

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<v Speaker 1>or not. I mean, I've seen the movie Tusk and

0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>it's the best movie ever made. Okay, I haven't seen

0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the movie Touch, and that's my business. So Dr Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Long realizes that Joe is unscannable because Joe doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>this like bar code tattoo that everyone in the future has.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like one of the things that I was like, Okay,

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that's like it's an easy thing to guess at, but

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:53.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not. You know, yeah, that that worked for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So this leads Joe to finally realize what year it

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>is and that it's like five years in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both freaking out and Joe runs away and then

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<v Speaker 1>gets arrested because he didn't pay his hospital bill. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's taken to court where his court appointed lawyer, Friedo,

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the guy whose apartment Joe crashed into, defends him, but

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>he does a terrible job. Joe tries to plead his

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<v Speaker 1>case and explain the army experiment, but no one takes

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<v Speaker 1>him seriously and he's found guilty. He is then given

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo like the bar code tattoo, and I D

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's made to take i Q and aptitude tests.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of funny when he's called not sure, that as giggling, look,

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>look it's still my judge jokes that was pretty good. Yeah,

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and they call him not sure. The whole movie pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he takes his tests and then he is

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<v Speaker 1>sent to prison, but he's easily able to escape because

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he is smarter than everyone there. And he goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to Frido house and he's like, hey, Friedo, has anyone

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>invented time travel? And Friedo's like, yeah, there's this time

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 1>machine and Joe is like, okay, you have to take

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.159
<v Speaker 1>me there, So they head toward the time machine mcguffin

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>time machine right. Meanwhile, Rita has also become unfrozen and

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<v Speaker 1>is roaming the streets. She's kind of like scamming a

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<v Speaker 1>guy out of a bunch of money who is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for her sex work. Joe finds her and

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<v Speaker 1>picks her up to take her to the time machine.

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<v Speaker 1>To get there, they need to catch a shuttle from

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<v Speaker 1>a huge costco, but the cops are chasing them because

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<v Speaker 1>Joe escaped from prison, and they catch Joe before he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to get on the shuttle. Quick quick interlude, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Costco, I love you funny, It's funny Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the cops take Joe to the White House because

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<v Speaker 1>the results of his i Q test caught the attention

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<v Speaker 1>of the highest levels of the U. S. Government. Because

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>it turns out Joe is now the smartest man in

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 1>the world. So President Camacho played by Terry Crews, comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>He hires Joe as Secretary of the Interior and announces

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to have Joe fix all of society's problems,

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like the failed economy and the dying crops. But Joe

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what he's doing, and he's still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the time machine, so he has the other

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>cabinet members bring Rita in, and then Joe and Rita

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>try to run off, but then Joe notices that the

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<v Speaker 1>crops are being watered with Brondo, that green sports drink stuff,

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and he tells everyone that they have to water the

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>crops with water. But because this doesn't work immediately, and

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>because switching to water means that a lot of people

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>who work for the Brondo Corporation have lost their jobs,

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>people are furious at Joe and he is sentenced to

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 1>one night of rehabilitation, which is actually Joe being put

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<v Speaker 1>in a gladiator style arena, like allowing the government to

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<v Speaker 1>run you over with the truck, which again is like

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<v Speaker 1>some of this entire works. That's funny when you see that,

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not, I mean, but it is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of when you see that bizarro like shredder monster truck

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.239
<v Speaker 1>run over that guy, he just turns into dust. Like

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of wild, and like all the all the

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>monster trucks are shaped like dicks, and there's just a

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of like dick and dildo jokes, and I'm like, sure, sure,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>why not? Sure? Why not? Meanwhile, Rita notices that the

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 1>crops are starting to grow and Joe's plan is working,

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>so she and Fredo rushed to the arena. Meanwhile, back

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>in the arena, Joe manages to avoid being killed by

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the monster trucks and avoid being killed by this guy

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>named Beef Supreme. A lot of very two thousand six

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>special effects around at this yeah point in the movie. Yes,

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and then Rita and Friedo prove that the crops are

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:18.239
<v Speaker 1>growing are growing by broadcasting footage of the crops on

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the jumbo Tron so President Camacho pardons Joe and the

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>day is saved. Rita decides to stay behind because she

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>was offered a CEO job at Starbucks. So then she

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and Joe say goodbye, and then Joe is about to

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>go off to the time machine, but it turns out

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that the time machine is actually just a theme park

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>ride and not a real time machine cannot go back

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>into I was disappointed for Joe in that moment. I

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, that genuinely sucks that you have to live here.

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>He really does. So he accepts a job as vice

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>president of the US. He eventually becomes president. He marries

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Rita and they have kids and they live happily ever

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>after in a society that seems to continue to just

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>descend further and further into shambles. So that was certainly something, Uh,

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>shall we take a quick freak and have a panic

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>attack and return. Let's do yeah, and we are back.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Boy oh boy. I feel like, okay, I do want

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to start by kind of addressing the elephant in the room,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>which I feel like is I mean, I don't want

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>to say like this movies for me, this movie's biggest failure,

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that is like a broad statement

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>like for sure, like its biggest like plot structural failure,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>which again and I've heard this so whenever brief context,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>beginning basically when Donald Trump's um, I don't know why

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>full named him, they're like but like beginning when Donald

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Trump ever heard of him, he ruined our lives, um,

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>but beginning when his candidacy became viable. I feel like

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that is when the idiocracy as a documentary idea sort

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of started coming, and even a little bit before that.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think that the big, the big like resurgence

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of like idiocracy as a documentary came when Donald Trump

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>became a viable candidate because a lot of people saw

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the Terry Crews character, who is a professional wrestler who

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:51.479
<v Speaker 1>became president, reflected in Donald Trump, who is a failed

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>son reality star who became president. This completely ignoring the

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that we already had elected an actor to be

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>one of our worst presidents in the nineteen eighties. But whatever,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll give it a pass. I wasn't around

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>for the nineteen eighties, so I couldn't bitch about it. Um.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>In any case, fifteen was when this started to come up,

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So I was surprised when the central conceit of the movie.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>And again I've seen this has been more discussed in

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the past couple of years. Um, I want to shout

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>out Sarah z incredible YouTuber and my bud who made

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<v Speaker 1>a great video about this will link it in the description,

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>who kind of unpacks us to a larger extent. But um, basically,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what is at the core of this movie is the

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>concept that your i Q determines your deservedness to reproduce

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and the idea that it's just very like essentialist and

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that like this movie, I feel like it's the biggest

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>failure is it ignores, kind of, with the exception of corporations,

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>every structural problem that exists and instead redirects that anger

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and resentment on poor people. And that is so like

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's like so many things and again it's like

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the corporate stuff is kind of exempt, which I think

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting reflection of like where the writer's minds

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>were at at this time, because they recognize that, but

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>they did not really like there's so many things that

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>happened in this movie beginning with Okay, sorry, I'm just

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>like already melting up. But like, let's talk about i

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Q first. Because that's where the movie starts. It implies

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>in the opening sequence, a sequence that rivals Midsummer for

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>opening sequences that make me want to just explode. What

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>makes me want to reflect a recent experience of mine

0:30:54.360 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>put Dr Brauner's on my vagina by mistake. Look, I

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>did not know that that you are not supposed to

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>do that. And what a horrifying lesson. Dr Brauner's on

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>my one clitter is unbelievable. Unbelievable, that of acid. So

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not laughing you. I'm just you're ready to laugh

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>at me because I got into MENA and I did that,

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>which is further proof that i Q is a false metric.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be smart and you don't even

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>need to be able to read. The thing is like okay,

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but like okay, i Q is like it's implied in

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the opening sequence of this movie that people with lower

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>i q s are the source of most societal ills.

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>People with higher i q s are also being criticized here,

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>but in a very different way. We're like people with

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>higher i q s are being criticized for being so

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>cautious that they refuse to reproduce. And I feel like

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>both of these takes have aged very poorly, and the

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>take towards people with lower i Q is much more harmful,

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but both of them are harmful, So I mean whatever,

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I've done a lot of research in the past

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>about i Q and like I feel like it's pretty

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>common knowledge at this point, but probably but was not

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>common knowledge in two thousand and six that i Q

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>is a deeply basically at this point useless metrics on

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>every front. It was invented by this French guy named

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Alfred Bennet to basically like use in schools for kids

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>who were like to track their progress every so often.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>The idea is that i Q is not permanent. It

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was a way of sort of evaluating how schools were doing.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a reflection on the individual. What it's heard

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>in too was it was taken a hold by eugenicists,

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>which are you know, like which is the school of

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>thought that your intelligence can be determined by your gender,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>by your race, by your class, and that these are

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>individual essentialist faults on people and have nothing to do

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>with systemic stuff. And so it's just like without giving

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the history of eugenics, but like i Q has been

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>weaponized against a number of marginalized communities Over the years,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's been particularly black people have have had i Q

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>weaponized against them Black Americans specifically. There's a really famous

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>book from the nineties called The Bell Curve that it

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>was a very popular book that just argued white Americans

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>are simply smarter and they should be Like it's a

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>white supremacist text, but it was very popular. I mean

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>it just it goes in all this stuff, like your

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>skull shape determined whether you deserve to liver die it

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>if you were anything but completely neurotypical, you are somehow

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>less worthy to not just reproduce but live. So yeah,

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's just been used, it's been taken so

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>wildly out of context from the reason it was created

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that it has literally it's not just marginalized and excluded people,

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it's killed people. And it's now just now becoming a

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>more common knowledge thing and is like that is slowing,

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's not stopping. And so all that to say,

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not implying that I think that Mike Judge knew

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>the history of this and did it anyways, based on

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>his other work, I want to give him the benefit

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt and say that this was kind of

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>just like a lazy writing choice, but that as a

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>base for your movie about the decline of society is

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>just like just one of the worst takes you can have.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Like it's kind of stunning, Lee Bad. Here's my sorry

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm feel about I don't apologize. I've made a podcast

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>about it two years ago. I don't really want to

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about it more. But like it's a whole thing.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It is a whole thing, and it's a horrible basis

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>for a movie, like you said, because there is a

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>way to make a satirical movie about uninformed and regressive

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>ideology spreading and leading to the downfall of civilization. There's

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>a way to do that that's thoughtful and effective as

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>far as satire goes, and that doesn't demonize marginalized communities

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>like people living in poverty, for example. But this movie

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't do that because it's just making broad statements, like

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>first of all, just that like some people are mart

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and other people are really stupid, and I'm trying to

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>avoid like ablest language on this episode. It's I feel

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's going to be difficult because leans into it

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>very hard. So it's it's doing that. It is also

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>coding those people in very particular ways, where again the

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote smart sensible people are coded as being upper

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>middle class wealthy. Again, there's like that couple in the

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>opening sequence according to the university, but don't like to

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, I renounced my master's degree. Um. They

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that couple. According to IMDb, their character's names are yuppy

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>husband and yuppy wife. So that just like gives you

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a sense which is like kind of funny because it's like,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>consider who is writing the movie. They would much more

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>closely identify with the yuppie husband and yuppie wife than

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>with the poor people. But they're still just like the trio.

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>There's just a just like a complete void of empathy

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>for anyone but Luke Wilson in this movie. And sorry

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to say his name, Like I was like saying a slur,

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but like I what, I just whatever, I just it

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't work for me. So so it's this coding

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>where you know, it's like the smart sensible people are

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>rich and the quote unquote unintelligent people who multiply rapidly

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>are clearly coded as being poor. And again on IMDb,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that couple in this like opening montage their character's names

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>are trashy guy and slutty girl. There's a whole conversation

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>that we'll have about like the way women are like

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>disfranchised or not included at all, which which I will

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>argue could be solid satire on a view of a

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>dystopian future, but it doesn't seem like that is what

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>they're doing. It's exactly. It is hard because this could

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>easily be an episode that is like five hours long,

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want it because it's a short movie, mercifully,

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and we're trying to make episodes that are not longer

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>longer than the movie. But this movie is hard because

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>it's it's loaded with a lot of stuff. And so

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I think the main things and I would say that

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the people who are poor in the opening sequence, and

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>basically most of the people from the future are coded

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>in the same way to different degrees of aggression. So

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm just started talking about everybody there. But it was

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like bizarrely very American in that it's making all of

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>these like bad quote choices seem like they are made

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>completely by the individual and so that they can be

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>held complete. And so that is like the way the

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>systemic but it's like that ranges in so many different

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 1>ways where it's like it's not addressed that poor people

0:38:55.160 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>have less access to birth control, to sex education in

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>two abortions if they want them, and in terms of religion,

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like tend to be rather religious communities, and so it's

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like huge elements that are completely wiped and it's just

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>made to seem like, oh, well, no, they are just

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>so chaotically horny that they cannot help but proliferate. Like

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's so frustrating it is. It's like

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it's very I don't know, it's very two thousand six.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And then when you fast forward to the future and

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>then you see people who, first of all, I just

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>am like, as a reality TV watcher, I object, and

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>also I think that that again like ignores it's like, oh,

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>people want to see people get kicked in the nuts, which,

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>first of all, yes, none of your business. Second of all,

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>does nothing to address why those programs appear and why

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they're the most easily accessible programs in the fucking country.

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's like you have to pay to watch the

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking Soprano or whatever, or like whatever the grad school

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>crowd is watching, and so it doesn't address any of

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the systemic like why are these programs so popular? Could

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it be possibly because they are the most accessible programs,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and that is not the fault of the people who

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>cannot afford to pay for five hundred other channels. Like

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just it ignores things on every single level. And

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>then we'll get to like fucking prisons and governments, like oh, yeah,

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we are just simply not smart enough to know how

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>prisons work. And it's like, no, that's how prisons are

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>designed to work. Like it just makes me. It just

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>ignores that so many of these issues are by design

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and not out of individual failings from people that are

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 1>being intentionally disenfranchised. That is the entire premise of them.

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the commentary this movie is making. And it's

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>so backwards, because yeah, it's like you said, it just

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>fails to recognize the lack of access and opportunities you

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>experience when you live in poverty. It fails to recognize

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that poverty is a cruel cycle that is nearly impossible

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to escape because of things like capitalism and racism and

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>able is m and all these other systemic issues. It

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>fails to It suggests that again, like poor people multiply

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>for fun and not because there are multiple structures designed

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to keep poor people poor so that their labor can

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>be exploited by the ruling class. Like well, and then women,

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it also like doubles down on and

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>this feels slightly more intentional at least, but like women

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>are sex objects only, and I feel like that's maybe

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a more arguable point because it feels like they're at

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>least more consciously making that point and they're just not

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>doing it very well. But like it's it just kind

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of on all fronts. It's just recasting systemic issues to

0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>be personal failings is just like the shittiest kind of

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>satire for me. And it doesn't even mean that, like,

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not to say that like individuals who

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 1>are being actively marginalized and other can't hugely funk up.

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>That's obviously true. We've all got parent but that's not

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But but that is not the rhetoric of this movie

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>at all. It's like the systemic issues are not at

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the top of this movie. It's like people are just

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>not smart enough to know better. It's a very two

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six way of looking at the world. So yes,

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>instead of there being any of that recognition of systemic

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>oppression and there being any thoughtful commentary on, you know,

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the capitalist machine and all of its repressive systems. Again,

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>this movie just makes fun of poor people and relies

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>on ablest language and homophobic slurs mostly for the humor

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of the movie. And it's like that sort of stuff

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>is very like very two thousand and six, and I

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's mostly used for shock value. It just

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel satirical remotely. And it's like, it's just like,

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>can you believe that we're using these like slurs over

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and over and over and it's because poor people suck.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You're just like I hate every part of this, Like

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>what I hate every part of this. It's real crummy.

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break and then come back for

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 1>more discussion and we're back. So sorry, I yelled out

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of my frustrations with this movie, I think

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the so we've talked a lot, but

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>at this point, how the lower classes are made to

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>seem like the source of all evil, which it okay,

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that is the place from which we're coming, but in

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the future, it seems like the issues that the writers

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>have with poor people in two thousand five have become

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the entire culture, and so now people with all levels

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of money and power behave exactly like how two writers

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and two thousand and five, who were rich at the

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 1>time of writing it perceived poor people. And again it's like, uh,

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I really like my John and I think that he's

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>made great stuff before this and after, and this is

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>just a really frustrating piece of work to look at.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 1>This was his flop era. I guess this was his

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 1>flop era, but it was later. We'll get to this

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in second, like it was later spun to seem like

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>his his his what's the opposite of flop? His masterpiece?

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's like because there were genuinely a lot his

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>top era. Sorry I just thought of that his top era,

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but like because there were whatever, the history of this

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>production was like it became a cult classic, like a

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of Mike Judge stuff because it was considered too

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>offensive into like specific audience e to release widely, and

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>so I feel like it it got this like you know,

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like punk credibility before it even came out,

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>because it was like, oh, this is the movie studios

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to release. And I understand that element of

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like that is a really quick way to make a

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>cult classic, especially from someone who's already made cult classics.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 1>But then you watch it and you're just like not

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>to you know whatever, Like it's it's it's pointless to

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>have an argument of like, I agree with the student

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you because I'm sure the reason the studio had for

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>not wanting to release him widely I would not agree with.

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also like not upset that this wasn't the

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>most popular movie in the world, because I don't want

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>to like its politics are very dated anyways, fastward to

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the future. Everyone has the exact opinions of Eton Cohen

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and Mike Judge's opinion of poor people in two thousand

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>and five. Okay, so what this does is, I feel

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>like in the upper classes of the future, it further

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>erases again with like the bizarre exception of corporations, which

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>they seem very aware of, ignores everything else, examples being

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the House of Representation, where it's portrayed that the it's

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>not that the American government is designed to oppress people,

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>it's that the people in the American government are just

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>not smart enough to know how to provide justice to people,

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>which is again, basically no one was talking about this

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand six because it was like these two

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>writers were considered to be on the cutting edge in

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>two thousand six and they clearly didn't know. So again

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like, don't punish yourself in the past, but in

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the present moment, it's like, well that is not true,

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like they're it's intentional that they're taking our rights away,

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>there is an end game in mind. It's not that

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not smart enough to know better, and that that

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>same ethos is applied to the prison system, which is

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>again egregious because it's like, Ben need us to tell

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you how implicitly and intentionally racist and classist the prison

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>system is in the US. But again it's the way

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's portrayed is like, well, we don't know, we

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know any better, like we're just we're just we

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't get enough math classes, like to you're just like

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. And the same applies to the way

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the police are. Like the police are of the three,

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like at least they are shown as like

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>absurdly violent and absurdly reactionary in a way that I

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>would agree with. But again it's like portrayed, not because

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that is like endorsed and always has been in the

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in American policing. It's like it's because the individual people

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>are so ridiculous and you're like no, but it's they

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>are empowered to act that way. Like it's just there's

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>no systemic criticism except for corporations, and so the corporation

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff weirdly, for the most part, for me, it works, Yeah,

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>so I think, and that is best exemplified by the

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Brondo thing. But there's also like Carl's Jr. Is now

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>running like child Protective Services, and I thought that was

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of funny, and the whole the drive thru has

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>like a gas they can shoot in your face to

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>like dissociate you, like that kind of stuff. I was like,

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was like more effective and it

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>felt very very intentional, like you were an unfit mother,

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:17.919
<v Speaker 1>your children will be repossessed by Carls Jr. Like that

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>for two thousand six satire. That worked for me, right,

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>But then there's other stuff where like you can go

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to Starbucks and get like an erotic massage, which felt

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like shamy of sex work. And there's the whole conversation

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to be had about that and also implies that the

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>lower classes, or just like poor people in general, are

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>again it like goes into what we were talking about earlier.

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I like the way the opening sequence divides classes is

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like people with more education and money not horny. People

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>with less education and the money so horny they cannot

0:49:54.920 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 1>help but have a trillion kids, which is again unfair

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to both parties. Like you know, we started like it's like,

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, people of all classes who are all manners

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of horny. Like it's so like obviously reductive of people

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>like to say that your class determines how your are sexual,

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like how much you want to reproduce, Like it's just

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>like it feels like silly to even say out loud

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>because it's so ridiculous. And I feel like the future

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>furthers that logic of like what Mike Judge and Eton

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Cohen thought of poor people in two thousand five, which

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is that they are like so uneducated that they cannot

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>control themselves, which again you're just like pull that goes

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 1>into the future of like, oh, they just are so

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>horny they want they want hand jobs as star books.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's like not only like you're saying that's shamey

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 1>to sex work. But it's also just like reductive of

0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>poor people in the way that the movie is from

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>moment one, Like it's just just reinforces that. Yeah. So

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>so some of it works, some of it doesn't. But

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the Brondo thing I think works the best where there's

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>voice over that I'll basically just like say verbatim here

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:16.720
<v Speaker 1>where it is said that water was considered a threat

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to Brondo's profit margin, so Brondo came to replace water everywhere,

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>it's basically except for like in toilets it seems, which

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 1>is also pretty funny. But the Brondo Corporation bought the

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>f d A and then the FCC, enabling them to

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>say do and sell anything they wanted, which is, you know,

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty I think a pretty effective commentary on the way

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that like corporate takeover is constantly happening in this country

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and how you know capitalism is going to be the

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>death of assault. And then because the way it manifests

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>in this movie is that they're watering crops with Brondo,

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.240
<v Speaker 1>which is full of electrolytes, which is basically just pumping

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>salt into the ground where plants can no longer grow,

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and then it's leading to this dustpol where everyone's going

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to starve to death. So and I appreciate that it

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 1>took the further step of like, even if you resolved

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 1>that issue by using water, that would collapse the economy

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>because of how the economy was built around one corporate entity,

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, that kind of like the corporate stuff

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>worked really well, and it's it's just wild that they

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>took that energy to specifically one sector. But again, I

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like that is very indicative of Bush era satire,

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>where and I do think that George W. Bush, who

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>is you don't need me to tell you he's a

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:52.280
<v Speaker 1>war criminal. He's a war criminal. But at the time,

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and even I remember my perception of him as a

0:52:54.560 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>kid was that he was not smart, and so his

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>decisions that were actively harming people in America and people

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 1>outside of America. Certainly he started sucking wars, but it

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was because he couldn't say nucle hear correctly. It wasn't

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>because of all these systemic issues. And so I feel

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like that is a lot of the logic and energy

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that this movie is drawing on is like how people

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 1>perceived George W. Bush specifically at this time, which is

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like he is abusing people in and outside of his

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>country because he doesn't know better, when the reality is

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>he knew exactly what he was doing because he was

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.919
<v Speaker 1>a nepotism piece of ship who was continuing the war

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that his father started. And so it's like there is

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>no question that like he do what he was doing,

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you know. But but it was But what the sat

0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 1>fire of the time focused on more was like it

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was it was just like kind of picking on Southern

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 1>American of like, oh, I don't like how he says

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 1>this word versus like he is continuing a war that

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.319
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with what he says it, like

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 1>he knew what he was doing. Whatever. This is not

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>a controversial opinion, Like, no, we're saying this here on

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the heready here first on the back podcast, beloved American

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>President George W. Bush and beloved American painter while we're

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>at it, um there. Obviously he's a piece of ship.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But I just think that the way and he was

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>he was considered a piece of ship by a large

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 1>portion of the country throughout his presidency. But it was

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 1>like the ways that people made fun of him that

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like informed the direction of the satire of

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>this movie. And it just feels like, while it's like

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the rage at him couldn't be more justified, the like

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the vantage why people are coming in at is like

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>very misdirected. And I feel like we sort of had

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a resurgence of this a lot during the Trump presidency

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>where it was and it's like, I'm sure we fucking

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>engaged with us to something like we were certainly there.

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Like Trump is like not a smart person, I would say,

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>very true, but does he know exactly what he's doing

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>when he's perpetuating systemic issues A hundred and so it's

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like not the question of like I don't like this

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>guy because he don't talk smart enough for me. It's

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like like, take a step back, and this movie doesn't

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:42.320
<v Speaker 1>take a step back except for Brando. It's so weird.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>It is so weird. So yes, the kind of biases

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 1>that the movie is leaning into, as far as like

0:55:52.880 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 1>being antipore, extends to other things such as setism and racism,

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 1>because like I homophobia and homophobia, right, I think a

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:08.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of the characters who are you know, quote unquote

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>idiots who are populating this idiocracy in the year five,

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>are playing into again not only classist stereotypes, but racist

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>stereotypes and sexist stereotypes, because a lot of the women

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that you see, not that there are many on screen,

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but the few women with speaking roles who are in

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 1>this movie usually are characterized as bimbos, like the attorney

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>general or like the women who are hanging around the president.

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:49.280
<v Speaker 1>They are like dressed provocatively and you know, just again

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:53.879
<v Speaker 1>this like quote slutty bimbo type and that is like

0:56:54.520 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 1>again the filmmakers just bias against any sexually liberated woman

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>or sex worker. And this is this is an element

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of the movie that I think could have worked, Like

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>implying that the future of America is wildly sexist and

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>hateful towards sex work is I don't even think a

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>controversial take that is where the is currently headed. But unfortunately,

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the way the movie has written just seems to like say, like, yeah,

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 1>this society treats women like bimbos who deserve no respect

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>because that is what they because and like that is

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>how they are behaving, and it seems like they have

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>no cognizance of how they're being march. It just doesn't

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's satire, Like it just feels like doing

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing I feel like, especially with my Rudolph's character, like,

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's weird because I could see someone making

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the argument that, well, yeah, the care ters are using

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>all this homophobic and ablest language because you know, that's

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 1>what a devolved society would do, and that's the satire,

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the commentary. But you don't get to have that happened.

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And then I just feel like the commentary is and

0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 1>actually being made. I mean it's not and it's like

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I understand why they thought it was maybe, but it's

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 1>also like a you're operating from like even the found

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the foundation of the premise is so flawed that it's

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>like you can't really address specific issues based on the

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>idea of like well, no one is smart enough to

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>realize what they're doing. And it's like, well, how could

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you address any systemic issue if this movie does not

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:51.919
<v Speaker 1>recognize systemic issues as a concept, Like it just recognizes

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:56.920
<v Speaker 1>all systemic issues as as it applies to poor people.

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, oh, well, women are treated as

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>bimbos because there bimbos because and like Maya Rudolph is

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:06.680
<v Speaker 1>not like the other girls, but also she's kind of

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>like the other girls. Okay, can we talk about my

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Rudolph's characters, because I I do appreciate that by the

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the movie, and I mean the end of

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie, she is more motivated. She rests, you know,

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in the terms of like classic special cast discussion, she

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<v Speaker 1>saves the male protagonist of the movie. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>she is active in helping to resolve the conflict of

0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the film, at least the one that ends up getting presented,

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>because like half way through the movie, it's like, and

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>now the conflict is crops and it's like, okay, yeah,

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>but for most of the movie that isn't even the issue,

0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So she becomes involved in what eventually ends up like

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you're just like becoming the issue of the movie. And

0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it would have been interesting if that was the whole

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<v Speaker 1>premise of the movie, because that was giving me Mary

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<v Speaker 1>kay naturally passport to Paris vibes. Um. Okay, be guys

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<v Speaker 1>as part at any point in this episode, you were

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<v Speaker 1>wrong because that I was like, Okay, they more effectively

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<v Speaker 1>resolved a national water crisis issue than anyone, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wanting to bring up a movie like don't look

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<v Speaker 1>up as being more effective. I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about don't look up because I didn't like it. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about Passport to Paris because I did,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm so sorry, and Mary Kidd and actually resolved

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<v Speaker 1>France's water access issues in the and they got to

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<v Speaker 1>kiss their crushes like perfect story. Could you, even in

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<v Speaker 1>your entire life, say that, No, I can't. All I

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<v Speaker 1>did was the Dr Brauner's directly under my vagina. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do what they do Dr Brando, Dr Brando's acidic

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<v Speaker 1>waste onto my and it's it's he said, the injury

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<v Speaker 1>with the doctor Broder's issue because the bottle is covered

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<v Speaker 1>in words. And then I looked after after the throbbing

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<v Speaker 1>had stopped, and I will say I was taking a

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<v Speaker 1>shower with someone who I liked. Oh sexy. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean speaking of horny ist time. We're all having a

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<v Speaker 1>horny time when I when I say, when I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this was not recent. But anyways, I read the

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<v Speaker 1>bottle hours later and the words, the warning I needed

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<v Speaker 1>was there, but it was buried in like weird o garbage. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>where was that? An idiocracy? Um could have been helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>All that to say, like this movie, it starts to

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<v Speaker 1>make a criticism, but then says like, well, but insert

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<v Speaker 1>a press class here is basically like that anyways, So

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're just I don't like, it's just bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>It does feel like I don't know I I And

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<v Speaker 1>if you were older than us, which might not be

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<v Speaker 1>possible we're quite old, um, but if you were older

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<v Speaker 1>than us, feel free to wait in like my interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of his reflection because I was like

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<v Speaker 1>when our kid throughout the bush years, but my interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of this just based on like I whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>grew up watching John Stewart with my aunt, Like my

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<v Speaker 1>aunt was very into this brand of comedy, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that was primarily through her that I would see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it felt very like allied with Democrat senators and

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers in a way that is largely for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of leftists no longer true. Is like at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's very I mean, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>not that it wasn't known by people in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, but it is larger known now that like

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<v Speaker 1>democrats measures and lawmakers are also largely fucking you over,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're just like smiling while they do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>at this time it felt like democrats or just generally

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<v Speaker 1>center to left leaning politicians were not on the chopping

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<v Speaker 1>block to be criticized. And that's because that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really come up like you do. I thought you got

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty effect of like Fox News early Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News commentary here of like it's just like sexy naked

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<v Speaker 1>people talking nonsense, which is like that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>what Fox News is, and like it's it's not based

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<v Speaker 1>in facts. It's very visual medium. Um. But you do

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<v Speaker 1>not get the other side of that because I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the time the writers of the movie would have

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with like centrist propaganda MSNBC vibes, you know stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm de radicalizing my mommy from wowow Jill's working. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is working. She no longer brings out her MSNBC

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<v Speaker 1>mom mug when I am visiting. I think she's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to be embarrassed at it, and rightfully so she listens

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Hi Jill, Hi Jill. Um. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to read a real quick where so,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, she's absent for a large chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, but then she does become active in the

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<v Speaker 1>resolution and she helps to again resolve this like crop

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<v Speaker 1>thing she has agency in those few scenes, but prior

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<v Speaker 1>to that, she is almost indistinguishable from the other characters

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<v Speaker 1>who are also supposed to be the quote unquote idiots,

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<v Speaker 1>because she, for example, she cannot grasp the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>her pimp, this guy named Upgrade, would be dead and

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<v Speaker 1>would have died five years earlier, kind of thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>she spent so much of the movie looking for this

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<v Speaker 1>character that, Like, it's so frustrating because the movie, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>to its credit, does introduce Luke Wilson and Maya Rudolph

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<v Speaker 1>as like characters with very different backgrounds who are of

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<v Speaker 1>equal intelligence. That is why they're being selected first. And

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<v Speaker 1>so to fast forward five years and have him be

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<v Speaker 1>able to understand the fact that time has passed and

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<v Speaker 1>her n to understand that is ridiculous. Doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also suggesting. I feel what's being stated here

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<v Speaker 1>by the filmmakers is, well, of course she's not smart,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a sex worker. Like it's just casting judgment on well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like and also the only thing that's on

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<v Speaker 1>her mind is her loyalty and or fear of her pimp.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like and and this like slowly disappears throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the plot, but it's not motivated by anything, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just slowly or if it's motivated by anything, it's by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she's developing a crush on Luke Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>for no right. So that's the other thing where she

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<v Speaker 1>becomes Joe's love interest. He poop because if a man

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<v Speaker 1>and woman are the two leads of a movie, they

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<v Speaker 1>legally have to get together. By the end you were

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<v Speaker 1>alive and two five you have to get married. Heads

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<v Speaker 1>have to fuck. Initially, they're just acquaintances because they're both

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<v Speaker 1>participating in this experiment, and then when they're both in

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<v Speaker 1>five they link back up. He's trying to basically rescue

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<v Speaker 1>her and bring her along so that they can time

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<v Speaker 1>travel when he thinks that's possible. I would say this,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite scene of this movie is when Joe is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to makes sense of time travel. That was commentary

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<v Speaker 1>on time travel narratives that I thought was the commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good. I like that a lot. This movie

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<v Speaker 1>does have its moments which almost makes it more frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like I would keep like a solid seven

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of this movie and then the rest is trash um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so they link back up and they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to escape, and then things start to get flirty

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<v Speaker 1>when they're at the White House, and well for it,

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<v Speaker 1>before that, he has to pretend like they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with each other so that they can actually

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<v Speaker 1>go off and plan their escape. And that, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that worked because he's not actually trying to like exploit

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<v Speaker 1>her or have sex with or anything like that. That

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work for me because I felt like it was

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<v Speaker 1>implied that he was inherently of like he's a good

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<v Speaker 1>guy because he's not trying to assault her. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that it makes anything. They would be together, like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't justify why they end up together, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean in terms of the plot, right, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But then things do start to get flirty, like when

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<v Speaker 1>they're at the White House and she's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to sleep on the floor, you can

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in the bed with me, and he's like, and

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<v Speaker 1>he so his whole thing, he never understands that she's

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<v Speaker 1>a sex worker through the entire movie and possibly through

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<v Speaker 1>their entire marriage question mark, and we don't clear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks that she's a painter, So maybe you could

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument like, yeah, she's not smart enough to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that her pimp has been dead for five centuries.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not smart enough to notice that Rita is

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<v Speaker 1>a sex worker. Question mark. None of it worked. I

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<v Speaker 1>did just no. But eventually they get married and he

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<v Speaker 1>and Rita becomes his first lady because he becomes president,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like, of course this would happen in

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<v Speaker 1>a movie from two thousand six where a man and

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<v Speaker 1>a woman have to romantically end up together at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would have been more I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many more interesting ways to take that where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're the only to like, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>are going from the fucking baseline weirdo eugenicis logic that

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<v Speaker 1>this movie depends on to happen. I just feel it

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<v Speaker 1>would be more fun to see two characters who are

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<v Speaker 1>from the same era and are like considered intellectually superior,

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<v Speaker 1>like in conflict with each other, which these two never are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're never in conflict with each other. I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they have a vested interest in banding together,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just like her character has never taken seriously

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<v Speaker 1>enough to really develop any sort of side plot of

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<v Speaker 1>her own, Like if you just like let go of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, like if you just allowed her to

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<v Speaker 1>understand where she was, things could have become so different,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she could have allied with a different side of

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking future conflict then Luke Wilson did. They could

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<v Speaker 1>have been political rivals, they could have been like so

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<v Speaker 1>many different things could have happened other than like she

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<v Speaker 1>has no idea where she is, and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>last second, she's like, I have a crush on you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's like the most boring thing that could possibly happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, Luke Wilson's character, like you're just implying, is

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<v Speaker 1>also very boring and hard to root for, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like such a straight I mean, it's not Luke Wilson's fault,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like that character is such a straight man

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<v Speaker 1>that you're like, who fucking cares right, gives a ship?

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<v Speaker 1>This man is so boring. And then there's this like

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<v Speaker 1>running joke where she is tricking this guy into giving

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<v Speaker 1>her money on the promise that sometime in the future

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<v Speaker 1>she will do something sexual with him, which just makes

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<v Speaker 1>her seem kind of like deceitful, and I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't always saw honest. That didn't really bother me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, I think Hanning a future man. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really care because she has to like survive. It

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<v Speaker 1>only bothered me because I think that you could someone

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<v Speaker 1>watching this might draw connection between because she's a sex worker, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is what sex workers do. They try to,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, cheat you out of your money,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're dishonest or they're something like that. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what rubbed me the wrong way. Yeah, yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's there's a few ways to come at that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was also like, well, she's money and this

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<v Speaker 1>person is Um has money and she needs to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to quickly talk about how my judge talks

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<v Speaker 1>about this movie now, and by now, I mean sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like the way that in The Idiocracy is a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary era, so the last eight years. So he said

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<v Speaker 1>this in an interview with The Daily Beast. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just quickly trick the year on this. Okay, early Trump era, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is him commenting on what then was already

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<v Speaker 1>a very common idiocracy as a documentary tweet vibes God

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<v Speaker 1>so boring. Okay, So he he says in quote three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years ago, I started getting comments about it,

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<v Speaker 1>people discovering it, and it just keeps building. Now every

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<v Speaker 1>other Twitter comments I get is about Idiocracy and how

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary. Now, at first I was thinking, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to hear, but then very specific things like Carl's Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Announcing that they were going to have a completely robotic,

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<v Speaker 1>non employee store, and that's Carl's Jr. In the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's this thing called the Filatio Cafe in Switzerland

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<v Speaker 1>where you get blow jobs with coffee, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>the Starbucks thing in there. And then Donald Trump being

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<v Speaker 1>in the WWF before and talking about his penis size.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one specific thing after another unquote. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>will not argue with the like technical factual truth of

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<v Speaker 1>what he's saying, but like I feel like the reason

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<v Speaker 1>people say Idiocracy documentary has more to do with hyper

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<v Speaker 1>specifics like that versus the foundation of the world that's

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<v Speaker 1>built in the movie that has I would argue, little

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<v Speaker 1>to nothing to do with what we are dealing with now.

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<v Speaker 1>And also also, I mean to say, Ata said hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>to think that we're going to exist in five years,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kept having that thought. I'm like we're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fucking dead. The environment will not sustain

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<v Speaker 1>life because of how badly we've fucked it up. Awesome, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know whatever, appreciate the optimism, um, but ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I, I just think it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bummer because I do appreciate the filmmaker that it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if in the future he will push

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<v Speaker 1>back on this very persistent idea because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>people are repeated, like I wouldn't really care as much

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<v Speaker 1>if this was like a movie that no one saw

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six and people still like no

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<v Speaker 1>one really saw it, because then you're just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a victimist crime, you know. Like, but because people

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<v Speaker 1>are continually pushed to this movie as an example of like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's wrong with America, when I, when I

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<v Speaker 1>just outside of the corporate criticism, was not getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what appears to actually be wrong, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like an annoying, distracting, victim blamey approach to

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<v Speaker 1>cultural criticism. And I wonder if and it's one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, if you were a filmmaker in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand six, just reflect on that that's all you can

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<v Speaker 1>really do at this point, and I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>be interested to see if he ever kind of reflects

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<v Speaker 1>on the criticism of yeah, because it's very frustrating to

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<v Speaker 1>be living today in a society where period period, end

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<v Speaker 1>of thought, no, but like our rights are actively being

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<v Speaker 1>taken away. There's talk of how the Supreme Court is

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to keep taking away the right to

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<v Speaker 1>get marriage, like like all this stuff. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this with my best friend recently about how

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<v Speaker 1>like good news days from the past, like couple decades,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only been good news days because it's just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this right that people should have had all along, finally

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<v Speaker 1>is a right that people have officially it's been codified, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like, but then you've got your bad news days

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, oh, yeah, Roe v. Wade overturned and

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<v Speaker 1>now abortion is criminalized and gay marriage might be criminalized,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just like all these horrible things and um,

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<v Speaker 1>what was my point? So it's just like so frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>to like, I mean, and that's just the fucking tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg, just like systemic racism and policing and

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<v Speaker 1>all just every societal ill stuff that has never been

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<v Speaker 1>like significantly legally challenged. Right, It's just like we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of rights overturned, but there's also a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that never even gotten Right, there's this a

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<v Speaker 1>whole slew of like oppressive societal issues that we're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with every day. And then for people to compare that

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<v Speaker 1>to this movie, which just blames poor people for the

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<v Speaker 1>decline of civilization, it's very of the age. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that, like sometimes we get criticism for like examining

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<v Speaker 1>older movies from a current lens, but I mean, even

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<v Speaker 1>in the two thousand six lens, like this was very

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<v Speaker 1>much Again, it's like we're not saying that this movie

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<v Speaker 1>was unusual for its time. And I do vary strongly

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<v Speaker 1>feel that like this type of comedy it's time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not whatever. There's like art isn't useless, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think that you can trace this era

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<v Speaker 1>of satire's role in a kind of like unproductive energy

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<v Speaker 1>with with people that a lot of people recognize and

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<v Speaker 1>are like not engaging with. There's not a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like, I mean, even just like the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Bill Maher is the only person from this

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<v Speaker 1>era that is still doing the same ship he was

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand six, and now most of his original

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<v Speaker 1>viewers fucking hate him. So I feel like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>he is the case study for like people don't like

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<v Speaker 1>this anymore and the people who like this are like

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<v Speaker 1>weirdo doubling down assholes, Like this type of comedy doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really exist anymore in a popular sense, but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this was popular in its time does leave a legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that like the comedy that we were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five to ten years ago, in the comedy

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing now will leave a legacy and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all going to be great, And it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the older I get that where it's like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't take back your funck ups. All

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<v Speaker 1>you can do is address and not endorse them. And

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like that is kind of like what the

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers of this movie have done by not wishing back

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<v Speaker 1>against the idiocracy as a documentary thing, right, Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of patting themselves on the back for being

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<v Speaker 1>like awesome movie. I predicted a coffee shop that gives

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<v Speaker 1>out blow jobs, which what's wrong with that anyway? Not

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<v Speaker 1>an indicator of the downfall of society. Um, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything else to talk about? No, I think this

1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:24.680
<v Speaker 1>movie had its heart in the right place, but it

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<v Speaker 1>like it just I really, I think it's aged extremely

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<v Speaker 1>poorly and I don't like it at all. Agree and right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we understand the cultural landscape informing the media and

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<v Speaker 1>the satire at the time, and sometimes it does feel

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<v Speaker 1>weird to criticize a movie that's a product of its

1:18:46.920 --> 1:18:53.040
<v Speaker 1>environment from like almost two decades ago, but that's also

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<v Speaker 1>our job. Anyway, The movie I don't think passes the

1:18:57.120 --> 1:19:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Bechtel test. I don't think so either. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>women interact at any point, and if they do, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't notice it. But what about our nipple scale, in

1:19:08.840 --> 1:19:12.439
<v Speaker 1>which we rate the movie zero to five nipples based

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<v Speaker 1>on how does it do when looking at it through

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<v Speaker 1>an intersectional feminist lens? And I would give this movie

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<v Speaker 1>not good. I'll give it a half nipple because I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it gets the kind of like capitalist consumersm

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<v Speaker 1>commentary more right than anything else. But that should have

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<v Speaker 1>been one of many things that gets acknowledged and commented on.

1:19:48.600 --> 1:19:54.400
<v Speaker 1>The movie ignores and instead blames the downfall of society

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<v Speaker 1>on poor people. Yeah, and that sucks so and then again,

1:19:59.840 --> 1:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just like all of the the classist, the ablest, the racist,

1:20:04.320 --> 1:20:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the sexist coding of the characters is really shitty. One

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<v Speaker 1>half nipple. I'll give it to my Rudolph, whose talents

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie are squandered, because she is far better

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<v Speaker 1>than what this movie suggests. She's the best. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give a zero because I didn't like it

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<v Speaker 1>to piss me off, So I guess I have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else to say. I just like I do. I do

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<v Speaker 1>agree that the corporate criticism is valid. There were jokes

1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in this movie that made me laugh, Like, there are

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<v Speaker 1>jokes in this movie that I'll probably return to. It

1:20:42.880 --> 1:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>would be like that was a funny thing. But it's

1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:48.600
<v Speaker 1>just the premise of this movie is so frustrating to

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<v Speaker 1>me that I and I have no nostalgic attachment to it.

1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:55.439
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna give it zero. And so I have

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<v Speaker 1>no nipples to give, and I, um, if anything to

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<v Speaker 1>end not a positive, No, I do feel like you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there is actually a huge market right now for effective satire. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's I think most of it is happening currently

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<v Speaker 1>in TV. But there is a lot of good satire

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<v Speaker 1>of American politics and American dystopia that are coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say that, like it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, idiocracy being like kind of shitty means that

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<v Speaker 1>American satire is dead. It just means like this one

1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>aged very poorly, but the genre has continued. There's no

1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, lack of inspiration to pull from, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a genre that is like kind of gone on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, to to develop and grow in a very

1:21:43.160 --> 1:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting way. And also I think that satire has everything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the point of view of who's writing it,

1:21:48.760 --> 1:21:51.519
<v Speaker 1>and so having more satire that is not written by

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<v Speaker 1>already powerful straight says white Guys is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing, and that we have a lot

1:21:57.600 --> 1:22:02.360
<v Speaker 1>more of that now and there's still obviously room for more.

1:22:03.240 --> 1:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that this genre like is a

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<v Speaker 1>very like satire, like good satire, and like timeless satire

1:22:10.640 --> 1:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is like really really hard to do. Um true, because

1:22:14.120 --> 1:22:17.679
<v Speaker 1>which is why this movie didn't do it. It worked

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, it does not work work now. So

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<v Speaker 1>zero nipples hated it. Um let's end the episode. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>stop the fourth of July, just kidding, Abolish the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court of Shitty Country. Anyways, and watch z Way. I

1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:35.439
<v Speaker 1>think Way is doing some of my favorites. She's doing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the American satire right now. Yeah, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Yeah. With with that in mind, satire historically

1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>does not age particularly well. This is not a personal

1:22:46.000 --> 1:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>attack or indictment on Mike Judge. This movie did not

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<v Speaker 1>age well at all. I don't think it's any any

1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:55.720
<v Speaker 1>longer really valuable satire to reflect on where America is at,

1:22:56.080 --> 1:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and it probably wasn't at the time either, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of no one's business at this point because it's

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