WEBVTT - Die Hard is NOT a Christmas Movie | Overpromised Ep #24

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<v Speaker 2>We are Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio from Union,

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, from Franklin Square out here in the mean

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<v Speaker 2>streets of LA. Yeah. By the way, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us on our bonus podcast on a very special

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<v Speaker 2>day too, because we're celebrating nineteen years of working together.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, I believe this at the universary. It's our

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<v Speaker 2>annivers I got picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a teaser that is like, how could this

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong? So I got some DraftKings teasers and parlays.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go over for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Week fifteen of the NFL. Holy shit, and Rich is

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<v Speaker 2>super firing up thinks this whole Draymond Green thing is BS,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna tell you why, Well, it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate fake shit in sports life relationships, when you

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<v Speaker 1>force apologies or force action, where.

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<v Speaker 2>Zip it zip zippy? Speaking of BS, how about when

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<v Speaker 2>someone says to you, Rich, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite Christmas movie is? This might be one of

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest pet peeves. And I judge you if you

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<v Speaker 1>say die Hard, die Hard?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what annoys me even more than the answer

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they think that they're the first ones

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<v Speaker 2>to ever tell you this. Get this die Hard and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, yeah that I've heard that for ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's the constant debate of you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>it a Christmas is a Christmas movie? You know this

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<v Speaker 2>is the more tired debate than Lebron or Jordan. This

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<v Speaker 2>shit bothers me so much. I get it. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>cool answer. Stop acting like you're the person that discovered it.

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<v Speaker 2>And can I tell you one thing that seals the

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<v Speaker 2>deal from me? Why it's not a Christmas movie? If

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying Christmas movies?

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<v Speaker 1>If you said Rich, my favorite or Elf Vacation Love

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<v Speaker 1>actually home Alone, I'd say, oh, you're a normal freaking

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<v Speaker 1>human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Emmy Otters, Jrug Band, Christmas, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You that on the list, thank you, Happy Birthday, Frosty Claymation, Rudolph.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you say diehards a Christmas movie, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're a dope. And I hope I'm not offending our

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<v Speaker 1>boss or anyone who feels this way. But I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you say diehards a Christmas movie, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to be cool just for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>being cool. Like there's new ones out Family Switch on

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix with Ed Helms, you got Candy Kane, Lane with

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Murphy.

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<v Speaker 2>They're constantly pumping out new Christmas movies. So for you

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<v Speaker 2>to say guy classics like it's a wonderful life, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just doing it out there for the older folks, Like

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<v Speaker 2>these are Christmas movies. Now, there's other movies that people

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<v Speaker 2>claim are Christmas movies that are Christmas movies. However, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you some of our favorites that maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen. Okay, before we dive into richest picks and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else, let me tell you what aren't Christmas movies?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we go over that first? I made a list

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<v Speaker 2>of these are what bozos called Christmas move. We'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with Diehard and again, this came out in nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, stopped living in eighty eight. Diehard too. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all respect to our guy, Bruce Willis. All right, we

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<v Speaker 2>say this respectfully. Great movie. Yeah, amazing movie, amazing character.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cool ornament.

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<v Speaker 3>Spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the I love the ornament. But I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tired answer. It's not a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Spot always nails at home. Spot When did Diehard come out?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell everyone, because this, to me is the proof in

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<v Speaker 1>the pudding in the in the Christmas figgy pudding.

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<v Speaker 2>Diehard I believe was released. It was July, but I

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<v Speaker 2>believe July twenty fifth, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty eight. How

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<v Speaker 2>that hell? Technically, I mean Christmas in July. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a summer movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a summer blockbuster. Summer blockbuster. You know what else

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<v Speaker 1>is on this list? I'll shout out mouth. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the board ops at Fox Sports Radio tried to sell

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<v Speaker 1>us on Batman returns our buddy Profet. I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a dummy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a Christmas movie, right, I mean, mister

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<v Speaker 2>Perfet adds a lot to our shottle, but not that

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<v Speaker 2>Gremlin's great movie. I loved it as a kid, Little Magua.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a Christmas nineteen eighty four, good eighties movie, hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even held the test of time, to be honest, great characters,

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<v Speaker 2>but not a Christmas When we get out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, can you tell me? And I love it? One

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorites. I loved all of them, the lethal weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Christmas movies just because there's Christmas lights behind that

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<v Speaker 1>to the background. Because Riggs and Murta fighting on the

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<v Speaker 1>front lawn with Christmas ornaments doesn't mean it's a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a little more than ornaments in a sweet

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<v Speaker 2>mullet right there to make it a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently, over the last few years, people are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>iron Man three is Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard that one yet. People are saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>add that to the listen here with that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>superhero movie, not Christmas because its a Christmas tree. But

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<v Speaker 2>the reasoning stupid that was, like it there's a Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>tree and it's all stemmed with yo guys, you know

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<v Speaker 2>die Hard. I cannot cook get over that one, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to start Today's over promise by just

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<v Speaker 1>dismissing the buffoons that call all of these movies Christmas movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Because listen, if you don't want to go with the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional movies or the rom coms of the corny Hallmark ones,

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<v Speaker 1>Kavino and I put together a list of a few

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<v Speaker 1>cool even like rated R and more current current Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly, and when we agree, it's fact these are

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<v Speaker 1>ones we agree to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want to start with a sequel that is

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<v Speaker 2>very Christmas y? Oh, honestly, I don't think enough people

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. I love it. Daddy's Home too, because

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<v Speaker 2>you got Mel Gibson, you got Mark Wahlberg, you got

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<v Speaker 2>John Lithgow and Will Farrell. It's great. Dude, Nobody talks

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<v Speaker 2>about this movie enough. We're telling you, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>some spare time tonight this weekend, watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. And my wife and I recently watched this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a couple of years old now. Vince Vaughan, Reese, Witherspoon,

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<v Speaker 1>John Favreau going great. I guess said, rated R Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>comedy for Christmas raded R, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Still funny, humorous and has heart right, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>has all the elements. It is a Christmas movie, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the point, and maybe you haven't seen it, definitely check

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<v Speaker 2>it out now.

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<v Speaker 1>This one has a cameo from Word Up, Jimmy Butler,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Bateman, Jennifer Aniston Office.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Party is so good. It's very good. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>our pal Christmas Party. Olivia Mine is in it and

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<v Speaker 2>a very young Jimmy Butler before he was Hemmy Butler.

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<v Speaker 2>And you probably haven't seen it in a minute. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you saw it when it came out. Definitely worth reinvestigating.

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<v Speaker 1>And a bunch of buddies that are partying drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>moves and fun around the holidays the night before this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Seth Rogen, Anthony Mackie. Is that Joseph Gordon levit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And again another movie that I haven't seen since it

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<v Speaker 2>came out, but I know I liked it. We enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>it together. Definitely worth the watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure we saw the screening of that and

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<v Speaker 1>someone yelled that you for being on your phone?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where we turned around, He's like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>mind turning that off? The light from your phone? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this the Holliday spirit? Is this the this was going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we gave you a bunch of we gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of movies to watch. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>call Diehard a Christmas movie the end. All right, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into some picks for this week. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it now. We got Saturday games and Sunday games.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start with a teaser. And uh, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tease you too much, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos are playing the Detroit Lions. Now I look at

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<v Speaker 1>those two teams as the Lions as a team that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't like murky waters right now, Like what did I

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<v Speaker 1>say waters? Like I was from the East coast?

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<v Speaker 2>Well you are. It's like what my mom says, coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want some coffee? The Lions are in murky waters.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me take a sip of water.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They may be as the as the Tommy Cutlets family

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<v Speaker 2>would say, fool games.

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<v Speaker 1>A little fake fake. Well the nine and four. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a playoff team. They're gonna likely win that division

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<v Speaker 1>unless by do something. But they're dealing with backup quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Point is, they're at home against the Broncos. That team

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<v Speaker 1>turned their whole season around. They lost a week ago

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry they won, but they lost two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Broncos have won what six of seven six?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven? Yeah, and should have won the game they lost.

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<v Speaker 1>They are get this four and a half point underdogs

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit. I like bumping that up to ten and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I love the Broncos as a ten and

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<v Speaker 1>a half point underdog getting more than double digits.

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<v Speaker 2>I love so. I like the Broncos plus ten and

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<v Speaker 2>a half.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Chiefs who are going through a little time

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<v Speaker 1>of struggling. But the struggling is all bullshit stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>off sides, drop passing the end zone, like really correctible things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the Chiefs are always as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you have Mahomes and Kelsey Andy Reid, you can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that they're out of the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>And I gotta say me losing it, I think inspired

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the team. I think you're raised firing

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<v Speaker 2>up playing behind me. I think you woke up.

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<v Speaker 1>The beast is what I think. You're playing the lowly

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots now. The only is that it's in New England.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're seven and a half point favorites. You tease

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<v Speaker 1>that down to minus one and a half. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said this, is the how could it go wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>To a team teaser?

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<v Speaker 2>I like that one.

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<v Speaker 1>The Broncos ten and a half is a big underdog

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<v Speaker 1>against Detroit. I think the Broncos could straight up win

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Yeah, and then the Chiefs. If the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>can't beat the Patriots in New England by two, what

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<v Speaker 1>the f This.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be the turnaround, the Chiefs getting on track, playing

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<v Speaker 2>like the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>We know now a money line parlay. These are teams

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to win. Three teams just need to win.

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<v Speaker 1>No point spreads them. I'm ditching the points and just

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<v Speaker 1>saying money line. Now the Eagles. Let's start with the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing at the Seahawks. Eagles have dropped two in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. They're still fighting for that division. The Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>and the Eagles are trying to find answers. They just

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<v Speaker 1>played two great teams, the Niners and Cowboys. Back to reality,

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<v Speaker 1>back to average opponents at Seattle, not what it once was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like the Seahawks losing at home, So

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles money line. I think the Eagles could just beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 2>You think the Eagles they got to turn around. This

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<v Speaker 2>is their chance to turn around. And the Browns are

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<v Speaker 2>hosting the Bears. I don't know why this points spread

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<v Speaker 2>is only like three. I'm just taking the money line anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Browns, Joe Flacco's rejuvenated. They got such a

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<v Speaker 2>great defense the Bears. I think people are a little

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<v Speaker 2>high on the Bears because they just beat the Lions

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<v Speaker 2>and they've shown some life. But in Cleveland, I like

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns to just beat the Bears. So Eagles just

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<v Speaker 2>beat Seattle, the Browns just beat the Bears, and that

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday game two seven and six teams that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, they're confusing me. I think Pittsburgh's the Pitts,

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<v Speaker 2>Rich Now, I'm gonna take a deep breath because I

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<v Speaker 2>got I got feelings that I think I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>break it down and be real because I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are just full of shit when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to this Dreamond Green thing. Well, Rich says that

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<v Speaker 2>he's sick of the Draymond bs because, Well, the update is,

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<v Speaker 2>Dreammond Green is suspended indefinitely. Indefinitely means indefinitely, and definitely

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<v Speaker 2>means indefinitely. I mean it means for definite. Yeah, for definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>It means like it tells someone. It doesn't mean for infinity,

0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.760
<v Speaker 2>but it means for like indefinitely. The last time I

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<v Speaker 2>think someone got suspended and definitely was Gilbert Arenas for

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<v Speaker 2>bringing a gun in the locker room. They're making it

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<v Speaker 2>seem like Draymond's a murderer. Now this is such bs.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you know what I hate. Not a murderer,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has built a reputation. Okay, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give you all angles because rich is all fired up

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<v Speaker 2>about this. But let's remember what happened. Let's also to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's know, Nurkic is there, he's flailing and he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sell a call, but it looks like he just

0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:25.960
<v Speaker 2>punches him. Yeah right over. Oh look at Nurkids laid

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<v Speaker 2>him out. Nirk laid him out, like when man, when

0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Marquez knocked out Pakia. Oh here, God, look at it. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>it is here. It is bam right. So you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, that's Draymond did it again. I saw that

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<v Speaker 2>all over social media, so I immediately knew what had happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Raymond did it again, Like oh no, you gotta remember

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<v Speaker 2>this as bad for the team. The Golden State Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>are ten and thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, it's early, but I know, I know, But listen,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of layers Draymond's apology. Let's get all

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<v Speaker 1>this out of the way, then we'll just sure, let's

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<v Speaker 1>watch Draymond's what some people are calling like the most

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<v Speaker 1>half assed apology, not really of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a look, Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 3>I was swinging away to sell the call, made contact

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<v Speaker 3>with him. As you know, I'm not one to apologize

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<v Speaker 3>for things I meant to do, but I do apologize

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<v Speaker 3>to you, said, because I didn't intend to hit him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I sell calls with my arms. I don't faller to

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<v Speaker 3>sell a call. I don't not a flopper. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was just selling the call because he was grabbing me

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<v Speaker 3>and pulling my hip back, so I spun away, and

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately I hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, you know how.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it looked like he hit him accidentally on purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I like his reasoning, like he was just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sell the call. But then I think he like

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<v Speaker 2>purposefully hit him, And it reminds me of in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember En Dominican Sue in his dirty but he would

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<v Speaker 1>step on someone and be like, oh, I didn't mean.

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<v Speaker 2>To step on it look like he was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get away with something dirty there. But again, he plays

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<v Speaker 2>with that fire, that intensity, and Nurkic did go on

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<v Speaker 2>to say that he still respects Draymond Green, no bad feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the other stuff that he said about him

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<v Speaker 2>that really raised a lot of eyebrows. Rock Johnson listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Nurkic York.

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<v Speaker 5>What's going on? I don't know personally, I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>that brother needed help and I'm glad he's not trying

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<v Speaker 5>to choke me. But at the same time, and nothing

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<v Speaker 5>to do with basketball, man, Like I'm just out. They

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<v Speaker 5>were trying to play basketball. You know, they're swinging.

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<v Speaker 2>See what he said there was.

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<v Speaker 5>We saw that often. But I hope, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>he got to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the part, and he needs to get help.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I'm glad he didn't choke me. He's he's

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<v Speaker 1>honestly feeding into the narrative that Draymond Green's a loose

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<v Speaker 1>cannon and needs help.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope whatever he's got in his life he gets

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<v Speaker 2>help and gets better. That's the sort of headline that

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<v Speaker 2>social media ran with too, that really made it look

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<v Speaker 2>like there's more to it than just intensity. Now. Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Maller of Fox Sports Radio did go on a rent

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<v Speaker 2>the other day too, saying, look, Draymond's done, get him out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this guy's hurting the team and hurting the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>more than he's helping at this point. And look, he's

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<v Speaker 2>given a lot, not to take away, great player and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. But he went on to also say that

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<v Speaker 2>he's missed just about half the games this season, either

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<v Speaker 2>because he was unavailable or suspended.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna forget that he's a future Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Famer four times, not at all, champion, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody at their time. You've said this.

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<v Speaker 1>Before as far as some NFL stars when they're pain

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<v Speaker 1>in the as factor outweighs their talent, yeah, you stop

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<v Speaker 1>putting up.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like a hobby out it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds rude, but it's like a good looking woman

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<v Speaker 1>who gets old and it's like, Wow, people don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to put up with her bullshit anymore when she's not

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<v Speaker 1>hot anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly and nail on the head. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that could rub some people the wrong way, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>People put up with a lot of shit from hot

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<v Speaker 1>women and talented athletes, and when they age out, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds rude.

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<v Speaker 2>People are dumb putting up with their b I remember

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<v Speaker 2>Rich said that this suspension and this narrative of he

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<v Speaker 2>needs help is bs and I think this has something

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it. Let me throw some names at you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>think about how the game has changed. There's no question

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<v Speaker 2>the game has changed. But did all these people need help? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's nothing wrong with that. We also need to

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<v Speaker 2>make that clear too, right, nothing wrong with talking to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody and getting help. In fact, we commend it and

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<v Speaker 2>we encourage it. There's nothing wrong with it. Better help

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<v Speaker 2>was one of our sponsors. Exactly. However, there's something to

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<v Speaker 2>be said about this is a tough game and you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing a win, right, you have a lot to prove.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very physical, very intense. Emotions are high. Right, just

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<v Speaker 2>because temperatures temperatures rose a little bit, does that mean

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<v Speaker 2>you have issues?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Rodman, Yeah, one could say maybe he does and

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<v Speaker 2>did need help. But a guy that played with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of intensity, right, But you're not helping Draymond Kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>But would he have lasted in this lead? You know

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<v Speaker 2>you've been saying this a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean the guy that left the NBA and joined

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<v Speaker 1>the nWo For a few minutes, Charles Oakley was choking people.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Lambard and all these guys that play with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of intensity run our test, Ben Wallace, or you

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<v Speaker 2>could just say people that played with a lot of heart.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a physical game. This is professional sports.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Again it's not football, it's not NFL. But

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<v Speaker 2>they play with that same level of heart, that same

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<v Speaker 2>desire to win. So emotions are high, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you really can't blame somebody when their emotions are at

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<v Speaker 2>that level.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it all comes down from me. I hate nothing

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<v Speaker 1>more than fake optics. Okay, when people do something that's

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<v Speaker 1>disingenuous just to sort of move things along. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when someone gets caught cheating on their wife

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<v Speaker 1>and they go to get help because they're a sex addict.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a sex addict? Or did you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Get caught and you're like, oh man, I couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>it in my pants.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a addict.

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<v Speaker 1>Every guy is a sex addict. Then you just got

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<v Speaker 1>caught doing something you shouldn't have done. Just optics for

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Do you think Draymond Green? Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond laying on some therapist couch? And again, I think

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<v Speaker 1>mental health is very important, but do you think Draymond

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<v Speaker 1>Green laying on so much couch talking about his emotions

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<v Speaker 1>and feelings are all of a sudden gonna change who

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is.

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<v Speaker 2>He just doing it for the optics of it, to

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<v Speaker 2>get him back on the It's like when you get caught,

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA looks like they did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a question about a real example and

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with sex or basketball or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get a speeding ticket and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we could take the point off your license if you

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<v Speaker 1>take this defensive driving course. Do you really learn shit

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<v Speaker 1>in that defensive driving class or do you take it

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<v Speaker 1>just as the process.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like an internship or or like we

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<v Speaker 2>tell our interns, this is you. You get what you want, Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>Do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you expect rom com sweet gentle Draymond Green if

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, time that the guy you want playing

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<v Speaker 2>for your team, the peaceful, that's his value there, that

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<v Speaker 2>intensity in a lot of ways. I don't know. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>is it soft to just say that he's doing this

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<v Speaker 2>because he needs help, he needs therapy, And is that

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<v Speaker 2>just to look good for the NBA?

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<v Speaker 3>And I wonder the.

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<v Speaker 2>Article spot just pulled up. He's talked to the best

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<v Speaker 2>he's talked to deep Pak Choper about this, yeah oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, And I wonder if he does seek out

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<v Speaker 2>because that became the narrative, right, and again it's never

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<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. Does Adam Silver go there? Did they

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<v Speaker 2>break it down? Is Steve Kerr invited? Is it like

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<v Speaker 2>a family session? I believe they work it out?

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<v Speaker 1>Is nurkds? Is he there for a session too? Or

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the chop it up? I believe in therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in bettering yourself. But much like a sex addict,

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<v Speaker 1>much like it you meet some woman or dude in

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<v Speaker 1>the dating scene, ladies, and if someone doesn't trust someone,

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<v Speaker 1>they have trust issues, one nice person is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to fix them.

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<v Speaker 2>This deeper sept I mean, we've all had friends that

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<v Speaker 2>checked into therapy or any kind of therapy. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 2>like this, this guy's been binging for years and then

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<v Speaker 2>he goes in for a few weeks. You think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a changed man. No, it's sometimes it takes time, like

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<v Speaker 2>he just did that just just for the for the

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<v Speaker 2>look of it, you know, So is it for the

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<v Speaker 2>look of it? Is it genuine? All these questions, but

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<v Speaker 2>come to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it goes back to like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if the pain in the as factor outweighs the talent Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Poole's not on that team anymore? Why Draymond Green?

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<v Speaker 1>So you you've changed around your whole team to accommodate

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<v Speaker 1>this four time champion. But is the championship status anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll figure it out. But uh, indefinitely?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh? How about you? Definitely? Which Rich thinks is BS?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, James, he'll be good?

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<v Speaker 1>It's honestly, it's like you break up with someone, you

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<v Speaker 1>get back together and they change for a minute, but

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<v Speaker 1>then the truth. Do you think Draymond's done with being

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<v Speaker 1>the guy he is?

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, if you missed any of this or any

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