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Speaker 1: limit the Lions running game, because I think if they

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Speaker 1: can keep Jared Goff in that offense in third and long,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of where the rush games and the exotic

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Speaker 1: blitz packages come about, and they can certainly get you know,

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Speaker 1: heat up Jared Goff in the way they have in

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Speaker 1: the past he played for the Rams. I know, it's

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Speaker 1: a different offense and different team entirely, but if they

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Speaker 1: can keep them in third longs and then kind of

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Speaker 1: generate some situations where they get the splash plays. On defense,

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Speaker 1: I do think the offense will have their fair share

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Speaker 1: of success running the ball, throwing the ball. So if

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Speaker 1: defensively they can create the takeaways, get the splash plays,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll have a good chance to beat the

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Speaker 1: lines on Sunday. Oh, Travis, great stuff, thanks for breaking

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Speaker 1: it down. Save travels here to Detroit. A little bit

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Speaker 1: cooler than where you're from, but still pretty good weather

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Speaker 1: this week, and I'll make sure I stop by and

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Speaker 1: say hello in the press box. Sounds good. Thanks a lot, Tom,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle

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Speaker 1: podcast and I am joined by the what does it

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Speaker 1: fuel position Optimization Specialists? Is that one of the ones

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Speaker 1: that you go by there? Jack Box obviously one of

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Speaker 1: the best punters in the NFL and now the highest

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Speaker 1: paid punter in the NFL. Congratulations on the contract, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: And just we were talking a little bit before the podcast,

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Speaker 1: just what was this process like for you? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how did this come about? Was it something that was

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Speaker 1: fairly quick? Was it something you've been working on for

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Speaker 1: a while or I guess just take us through the

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Speaker 1: process of how you got to this point. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it has been a little bit of a process.

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Speaker 1: My agent has done a great job. They were talking

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Speaker 1: in the offseason. It didn't get done by the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season, and my agent was still working on it,

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Speaker 1: but he really wasn't giving me any updates. He just

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Speaker 1: wanted me to focus on the game and all that.

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Speaker 1: And then we kind of reconvened during bye week and

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Speaker 1: he'd made a lot of progress and it got to

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Speaker 1: a point where we signed it. So I was really excited.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you've got to appreciate that part about your

468
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Speaker 1: agent not kind of giving you, letting you just, hey,

469
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Speaker 1: you deal with the football part of it, right, you'd

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Speaker 1: be the best punter in the league, which you've shown

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Speaker 1: to be last year, this year, throughout your career, and

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Speaker 1: I'll take care of this. And obviously the Lions want

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Speaker 1: to get something done. I mean, the numbers are what

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Speaker 1: the numbers are. You are the best putter in the

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Speaker 1: league right now, and so you gotta love that about

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Speaker 1: your agent kind of taking that part of it, that

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Speaker 1: stress part of it off here, right, Absolutely, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate that part of it. And yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he's been around the block a little bit and he

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Speaker 1: kind of understands how kickers punters is name Sean Kiernan.

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Speaker 1: There you got him out. Yeah you've done great job.

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Speaker 1: You know you know that. But yeah, he just let

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Speaker 1: me play football and he handled the contract stuff and

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Speaker 1: it worked out. So yeah, I was reading a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The Lions put together the the media relations people put

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Speaker 1: together these kind of packages before the season. You know, what,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite food? Like, what all these stuff that

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Speaker 1: you like? And one of the things in there I

489
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Speaker 1: was reading is the first thing that you bought when

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Speaker 1: you got your NFL contract was a case of bud Light.

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Speaker 1: Like you seem like you're a pretty even kill, pretty

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Speaker 1: modest kind of guy. Does that now that you're the

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Speaker 1: highest pages? Does that go to Blue Moon? Do we

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Speaker 1: do we get something to Sean Blair? Does this the

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Speaker 1: beer taste? Now? Blul is a great taste and beer.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Saint Louis. I'm a bloodlight guy. My dad's

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Speaker 1: a bloodlight guy. Uh So yeah, obviously I still have

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Speaker 1: blud light taste. But yeah I might buy bells too.

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Speaker 1: Are here and there now that I have a little

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Speaker 1: bit more money, I like it. So growing up you

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Speaker 1: were you were a quarterback, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: a lot of people know that. They probably should if

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Speaker 1: they ever see some of the fake punts and some

504
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Speaker 1: of the stuff that you do. You've got a terrific arm.

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Speaker 1: But but just talk about you. You're a quarterback your

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Speaker 1: whole whole life. How did that hunter become the number

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Speaker 1: one thing that kind of projected you into your college

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Speaker 1: in pro career? Yeah? So I always played quarterback, kicker,

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Speaker 1: and punter. So I was always doing all three. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I was always better at kicking and punning. I

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Speaker 1: was a decent quarterback when I was in high school.

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Speaker 1: We had a really good defense. We had a good

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Speaker 1: kicking game. I would say that's how we won most

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Speaker 1: of our games. Are you being modest? Touchdown? Senior year?

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Speaker 1: What was the number? I think I threw for eighteen?

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Speaker 1: But like we had good players around teen. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. Yeah. I wasn't considered a playmaker. I

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Speaker 1: would say it was more of a h I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was pocket You were a pocket passer to make mistakes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to not have to turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: We had good field position most of the game, we

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Speaker 1: had a good defense. So yeah, I end up being

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Speaker 1: a punter because I was always way better at punter

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Speaker 1: it than quarterback. And then you get to the league,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know fake punting is just part of it.

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Speaker 1: Three for four, seventy five percent. So when your agent

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Speaker 1: was negotiating, was any of the quarterback money involved in

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Speaker 1: any of that? Was you seventy five percent completion percentage

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Speaker 1: brought up in any of the conversations with with with

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Speaker 1: money And I have to ask Sean about that one,

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Speaker 1: but uh, I don't I don't know. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: But you got a pretty good arm. Do you stay

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Speaker 1: like is that something that you do just knowing that

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Speaker 1: that could be called any time? Like do you throw

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of number of balls a week or

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Speaker 1: do that? Or do you try to keep up with

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Speaker 1: your arm a little bit? Like what's the process there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we practice it. Obviously, anything you run in the game

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Speaker 1: you want to practice in practice. So when you go

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Speaker 1: out there, you only get one shot at completing it.

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Speaker 1: So we do a lot of practice on the side.

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Speaker 1: We obviously have a lot of time during practice to

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Speaker 1: work on things of that nature, so we put a

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Speaker 1: lot of time to it. I saw, like the first

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Speaker 1: fifty punch your number one in the NFL all time

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Speaker 1: m gross average, and nat same thing with one hundred punts.

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Speaker 1: I think it was one hundred and fifty. You got

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Speaker 1: to that part too, just but you entered this year

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Speaker 1: and players talk all the time about wanting to be better,

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Speaker 1: want to would improve on things. So what was the

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Speaker 1: one thing that that Jack Fox took into this offseason

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Speaker 1: and said, Hey, this is something that I want to

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Speaker 1: get a lot better with it. And have you seen

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Speaker 1: that translate to the field this year? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 1: one thing would be like plus fifty punts when we

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Speaker 1: get around midfield and we're trying to pin him inside

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Speaker 1: the ten yard line. That's something I worked on a lot.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of touchbacks the last couple of years, um,

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Speaker 1: and I think we have gotten a lot better at it.

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Speaker 1: This last game against the Cowboys didn't really show that

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Speaker 1: we had a two plus fifty punts that didn't work

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Speaker 1: in our favor, which is really disappointing because I think

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Speaker 1: that as a team we've gotten better at that, and

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Speaker 1: I do think that's going to show as the season

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Speaker 1: goes on. You like playing under day Fit. It seems

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Speaker 1: like a guy that that would be fun to to

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Speaker 1: to be under. Oh yeah, Coach Phip is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: I think something I really respect about him is he's

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Speaker 1: not too high, he's not too low. If you do

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Speaker 1: something well, he's not going to be showering you with praise.

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Speaker 1: But if you do something bad, he's going to let

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Speaker 1: you figure it out, and he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: mf and you and and really on top of you.

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Speaker 1: So I respect that aspect of his coaching. Were you

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Speaker 1: always a holder too in the kicking game? Not always?

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Speaker 1: I did it a little bit in college, and then

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Speaker 1: I kicked field goals for a season in college as well.

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Speaker 1: So my senior season I didn't hold, and then I

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Speaker 1: got here and I started holding again. So when you

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Speaker 1: go through a situation obviously Detroit has gone through, you know,

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, so many different kickers,

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Speaker 1: especially this year at the beginning of the season. Just

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Speaker 1: how difficult does that job? Our kickers? They seem to

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Speaker 1: me like a finicky group. Are they with the hold?

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Speaker 1: It's got to be this way and this way, untilted

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Speaker 1: this and this. Have you had to like, change that

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Speaker 1: up how many times this year? So you change it

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We've been really lucky because all the

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Speaker 1: kickers we've brought in have been really cool, normal guys

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Speaker 1: who they tell me how they want to hold, but

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Speaker 1: they're not super picky about it. Yeah they're football players too,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, they've all been cool. We've been really lucky

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Speaker 1: with the guys we've played with. So honestly, what was

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Speaker 1: more nerve racking your first punt in the NFL or

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Speaker 1: the first time you went out there to hold on

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Speaker 1: a field goal and know that that's the key part

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Speaker 1: of the operation kind of get it all going first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was nervous for both of them. Like Don muele

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Speaker 1: back it is one of the best snappers of all time,

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Speaker 1: but he also throws one of the hardest snaps back there.

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Speaker 1: So when you're holding for field goals and you're not

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Speaker 1: real sure of yourself, it's it gets on your fast.

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Speaker 1: Can those guys turn it like when they snap it.

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Speaker 1: Can they get it to a point where they can

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Speaker 1: almost control, like when it gets to your hands, if

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Speaker 1: the laces are in and out. I mean, it has

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Speaker 1: gotten to that dynamic of a skill position with those

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Speaker 1: snapping guys. Yeah, yeah, I think the snappers expect themselves

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Speaker 1: to get the laces right in a good spot. Obviously

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Speaker 1: it's not always like right and I'm here to hold it,

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Speaker 1: to spin it or hold it however they snap it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like Scott, he prides himself on giving good

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Speaker 1: laces a good spot. So obviously not the start that

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Speaker 1: you guys want at one in five. But but what

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Speaker 1: should give fans a lot of optimism in your mind

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Speaker 1: that that this is heading in the right direction, that

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Speaker 1: you guys can turn this thing around, and there's still

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Speaker 1: a lot of season to go. Yeah. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: we have a great coach and coach Campbell, we always

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Speaker 1: have that optimism in our locker room, and we just

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Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. Like we've seen it throughout

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Speaker 1: the season. Our offense has played really well at times,

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Speaker 1: our defense has played really well at times. I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put it together as a whole and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna end up playing really good football. Well, let's hope.

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Speaker 1: So it should be fun the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the new contract, very well deserved. The best

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Speaker 1: punter in the NFL is a Detroit Lion. He's Jack

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Speaker 1: Fox will be back on twenty Men in the Huddle.

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Speaker 1: It is time for the bet MGM Key Matchup segment

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Speaker 1: and for that I have welcomed in the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and Fox DO Sports director Dan Miller. Dan,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. I appreciate this. So every week

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Speaker 1: we take a look at five key matchups in this game,

635
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Speaker 1: and I thought, no one better than you. You're gonna

636
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Speaker 1: be the eyes and the sky for Lions fan. So

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Speaker 1: let's break some of these down. And first off, I

638
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Speaker 1: think one of the big ones for me is going

639
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: to be Jeff Okuda verse Tyreek Hill. I mean that

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Speaker 1: should be a fun one, right. I think a number

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Speaker 1: of these that we're going to talk about are fascinating.

642
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: I think this one is one because of the explosiveness

643
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: of Hill and what you have to do to find

644
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: a way to slow him down. And we've seen no

645
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: Kuda play great against some really talented wide receivers so

646
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: far this year. This is a different guy though, because

647
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: of the speed. And I think the thing is, in

648
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: talking to some folks around here this week, you got

649
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: to get up on him. You've got to slow him

650
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: down right off the line, not just because you don't

651
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: want to be get a full head of steam. But

652
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: because so much of their passing game is the quick

653
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: hit throw, the timing off, that makes you a little

654
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: exposed on the back end. But the Lions have to

655
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: help him there. Yeah, and Jeff said too, he's kind of,

656
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, gone around a guy like Mike Hughes, who

657
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: practiced with him when he was with Kansas City, and

658
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: some guys that have played again. So Becausejeff said, look,

659
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: I've never played against a guy like this, like this

660
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: much speed and the name Sheeta seven hundred and seventy

661
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: three yards for him, leads the NFL, and he's just

662
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: so dynamic. But Jeff is coming off such a terrific

663
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: game and in his confidence, I could see he was

664
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: building every single week, you know, and the plateau is

665
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: really that fifteen tackle performance against Dallas. He hasn't allowed

666
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: to touchdown all year in this coverageerry he's played physical

667
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: and I think every week that he's on the field

668
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: that he's available, you just see that building. And so

669
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: that should be a fun matchup. I think Jeff has

670
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: always been a willing tackler since the moment he walked

671
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: in the door. But that was that was another level.

672
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: That was just another level. And you could see him

673
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: after he made the tackles just how much he was

674
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: into it. And it was great. And I think this

675
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: is another step and challenge for him and I'm really

676
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: anxious to see how he does now. Look, he needs

677
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: some help and we'll talk about some of the other things.

678
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: But if you can put some pressure on the quarterback,

679
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: that makes Jeff better. It makes everything easier, Jeff said.

680
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Jeff said he woke up a little more sore on

681
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Monday than he has before. Right tackles again, those two backs, Yeah,

682
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I think so. All right, let's move up front, and

683
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: what you alluded to is getting help from some guys

684
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: up front, and let's start with Aidan Hutchinson versus Toronto Armstead.

685
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: You know, a talented tackle, guy's been doing it for

686
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: a long time, ten years in the league, has never

687
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: allowed more than four sacks in a single season, hasn't

688
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: allowed one this year, and so you know they're gonna

689
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: move hutch around a little bit like we saw it

690
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: last week, but there's gonna be some instances where hutch

691
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: is on him and that newfound two point stance seems

692
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: to be working for hutch So what we're seeing with

693
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Hutch is what we need to see, and that is

694
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: him adapting to this league, and that is him realizing that,

695
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: unlike in college, he's not just the best player on

696
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: the team and can win just on talent. Now he

697
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: needs to win doing different things. What do we see

698
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: last week? Sot' spen move. Spen move worked a couple

699
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: times in this game. He told me he'd never spun

700
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: into a sack before in his career. Well, brilliant it is.

701
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: We never spun in. He told me he had never

702
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: spun mission career. That's amazing and I kind of was like, whoa.

703
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's the evolution of his ability

704
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: to rush the passer and understanding, Okay, we saw the

705
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: bull rush, We've seen him try speed, now we've seen

706
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: the spin. Well guess what, here comes a three time

707
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tackle that has watched the tape as well. Yeah,

708
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: so he's going to have to adapt again this week.

709
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really interesting to watch

710
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: how he does that against a really good player, because

711
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to have move, counter move, and try

712
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: to make a play against the guy who has seen

713
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: it all in this league. So it's a really cool matchup,

714
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: you know. And I credit Aaron Glenn too, because we

715
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: talked to him on Thursday and he said, look, I

716
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: talked to Aidan over the buy and as a coach

717
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: you have to listen to players sometimes, and Aidan isn't

718
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: going to be one to come in and be vocalist.

719
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Look like all Ricky's're gonna put your head down, do

720
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: what the coaches tell you to do. And you know,

721
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: he's playing that big end with his hand in the

722
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: ground and he says, hey, look, I think I can

723
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: be maybe a little bit more effective at times standing up.

724
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: I can see the field a little bit more. I've

725
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: got a little bit more vision. Aaron Glenn said, well,

726
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: let's do that. Yeah, And so he doesn't, and then

727
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: you see the production with it, and so I give

728
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Aaron greenk credit for kind of seeing that and allowing

729
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: his players to be putting good spots as well. Break

730
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: it down to the simplest form. When you're down in

731
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: three point stance, your first movie is right into the

732
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: chest of that offensive lineman, okay, As opposed to standing up.

733
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Your first step is looking and kind of surveying. And

734
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: I just think he sees it better. And it doesn't

735
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: mean that there won't be a time where three point

736
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: stance won't be good for him and he'll be ready

737
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: to roll. But I just think where he is right now,

738
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: this is giving him a better understanding of what's in

739
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: front of him. And man, he's six games in six

740
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: games into his career. He's a baby, and he's learning

741
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: things against and finding out that the tackles in this

742
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: league are all good, and the two hundred and sixty

743
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: five pound tight ends in this league are really good too,

744
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: and you've got to figure out a way to deal

745
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: with him. But he's talented enough and smart enough that

746
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: give him some time. I'm really interested to see where

747
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: it goes. And I'm excited to see where it goes.

748
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I think everybody is. You mentioned the Pro Bowl tackle.

749
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: I think the lines have one that's maybe trending in

750
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: that direction. And Penney Swell second year guy, and look,

751
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: he's got a good test this week against Jalen Phillips.

752
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Know a guy for them last year eight and a

753
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: half sacks that was second most among all rookies. He

754
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: leads them this year. It's a little bit different front

755
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: than what Detroit faced last year. Last week. Excuse me,

756
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: it was more attacking with Dallas the twenty four sex

757
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: You see that. This is more like what Detroit was

758
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: last year. Reid react really big, They're hard to move

759
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: off the ball. It's going to be a good test

760
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: in the run game. That's going to be an interesting

761
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: matchup as well. Is Pennay trending toward being one of

762
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: the best right tackles in the bed opinion? Any doubt

763
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: about it? Now? I don't think there's any doubt about it,

764
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: based on the way that we've seen him play against

765
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: some of the best players that he has matched up against.

766
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: He's just he's got everything that you're looking for. And

767
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: his confidence has to be sky high. Based on the

768
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: way they played against Michael Parsons, he was terrific last week.

769
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: You know, look when Dallas got to the point where

770
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: they could just pin their ears back and come, that's

771
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: a different story and it will be for anybody anywhere.

772
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: But look, Pinney is a going to be a great

773
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: player in Detroit for a long time. This is two

774
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one first round draft picks. Don't think for

775
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: a second that Piney doesn't know that this is the

776
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Look Panet is the kind of guy

777
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: that will get things my read on him. He will

778
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: make the matchups in his head. He knew Michael Parsons

779
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: was coming. You think it wasn't fired up about that. Well,

780
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: here's a guy that had eight and a half sacks

781
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: last year. He's got three sacks this year. Again, both

782
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: same draft class, both for same agencies. So they knew

783
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: each other on Friday before that game. Is yeah, I

784
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: know him a little bit. We have the same agency exactly.

785
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: And then I asked him about that and I said,

786
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: but when you get on the field, he goes, he's

787
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: a cowboy, I'm a Lion's but same thing. Yeah, and

788
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Jaylen Phillis is gonna be a little different matchup this

789
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: week though, right, Bigger, stronger, being more physical. That's what

790
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the tackles do. Tackles have to adapt to the different

791
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: ways that we talked about the mass rushers, right, I mean,

792
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: and it's look, I think the Lions feel most weeks

793
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: good going in about anybody who wants to attack them

794
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: off the edges with Decker and so it's a two

795
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: headed monster at the wide receiver position for them. I mean,

796
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: you've got to talk. When you talk about Tyree Kill.

797
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: You've got to talk about Jaylen Waddles Ja. We'll see

798
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: who's in that cornerback spot. Amani did pretty well last

799
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: week in Dallas, but Jerry Jacob his training. We'll see

800
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: if well. Harris gets back in there and they like him,

801
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: so we'll put him money in there, maybe for right now,

802
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: but we could potentially see all three of those guys.

803
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: But whoever it is, they've got a challenge. You can

804
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: put whomever because you know what you have to do.

805
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: And I was looking at like a play chart for

806
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: him the other night and it was, you know, waddle

807
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: short short middle, wattle short middle, wattle short middle. They

808
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: want to get it out fast, huh. And they'll throw

809
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: it to him all over the field, but they want

810
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: to get it out fast, and they want to let

811
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: him do what he does, which is run after the

812
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: catch or really to do that. You know, I was

813
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: talking to coach and we were talking about Tyreek Hill.

814
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: I said, fastest player in the league. He said probably,

815
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: And then he got to waddle and he goes probably

816
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: just that much slower than Isn't that amazing to have

817
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: those two and that's why you see Tyreek Hill number

818
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: one in the league with the seven hundred and seventy three,

819
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: but waddles right behind six hundred and twenty one yards

820
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: and the little bit. Now he plays majority the outside

821
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy nine snaps out wide. It does

822
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: have sixty four in the slot, so they'll move him

823
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: around a little bit, but it's typically Hill and waddle

824
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: out wide, and they love they got a run with them.

825
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: It gets them the ball at full speed and then

826
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: they're often going That's why with him, he gotta disrupted

827
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: as well. Now here's where I think the interesting thing

828
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: is to him. I think you're probably looking at giving

829
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: a lot of help to ever's on hill. How much

830
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: help can you give on both sides. Somebody's gonna have

831
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: to hit to handle probably waddle more often than not

832
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: by themselves. I mean, it's difficult to get two guys,

833
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, with help over the top. Yeah, I mean

834
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: it's because we haven't talked to us most it either.

835
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: And that's a guy that can hit you if you're

836
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: spending too much time doubling guys on the outside of

837
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: that focus he can get is dangerous. I mean they're

838
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: very dangerous. And Tua is really good at delivering the

839
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: ball quickly. All right, let's finish with this one. Josh Reynolds,

840
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: who's back at practice on Thursday. I think that's a

841
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: good signing way to tell Friday return. So I think

842
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: he's getting better from that knee against Savian Howard. And

843
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: when you look at Savian Howard, I mean, obviously one

844
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: of the things that jumps out is a twenty seven

845
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: interception since twenty sixty, most in the NFL. But he'll

846
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: give up some plays too. It's a lot like digs

847
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: In in Dallas, where you know he gets a lot

848
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: of picks, but he gives up some plays too. And

849
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: when you look at Zavian Howard, one touchdown allowed in

850
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: each of his first five games this year was good.

851
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: Last week against Pittsburgh didn't allow one. But to me,

852
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: that's a key matchup because if you get Saint Brown back,

853
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: which he's trending that way, if you get um uh

854
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift back, which he's trending. Hockinson was back at

855
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: practice on Thursday, So to me, the focus with Miami

856
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be that middle. Those guys, those matchups, and

857
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: to me, I think the opportunities to have a play

858
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: are maybe gonna be one on one out there with

859
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, with Khalif Rayman, with one of those guys

860
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: against Savian Howard, because if I'm Miami, I'm like, I

861
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: trust Zavian against that. Let let's put our focus on

862
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Swift Saint Brown. You gotta go make a play when

863
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: they give you that opportunity. For Josh, right, thing then

864
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: saw that jumped out of me was the two touchdowns

865
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: he had last year and with Lions this year, giving

866
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: up touchdowns, I'll turnovers, I'm thinking, don't do that. But look,

867
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I think they've got to get back to the attacking

868
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: style where they were getting the ball downfield. Yeah, and

869
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: some of that has been because of injuries and they

870
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: haven't had the same guys in there. But if you've

871
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: got Josh back, and you've got him and Rod back

872
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: at full speed, and you've got guys that are ready

873
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: to go, I think at that point you start to

874
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: maybe see some of the explosiveness. You have to see

875
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: some of the explosiveness we saw in the first four games.

876
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: Guys haven't scored a touchdown in eight quarters. You got

877
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: to get some of that swagger back. You've got to

878
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: get some of that playmaking ability back, and that comes

879
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: down to not backing down from a guy that, as

880
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: you said, since he's coming to the league, has more

881
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 1: interceptions than anybody else. And I think that Jared Goff

882
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: is confident enough in this offense that if they can

883
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: start going again and getting their playmaking back, that I

884
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: think they will challenge him. So I think it's interesting

885
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: and obvious that also to see how he matches up

886
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: with different players on the field and if that's the

887
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: matchup that they go with. But whatever it is, I

888
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: think the Lions this year, look I said all along,

889
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: when they're at full strength, there'll be a fantasy football

890
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: team owner's nightmare because they have so many different guys

891
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: that they can go to. If it's Renolds, if it's Chart,

892
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: if he's in there when he was in there, if

893
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: it's if it's Hawk, if it's Swift, if it's Williams,

894
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: if it's Asp whoever it is, and that's what they

895
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: have to get back to. I mean, I know Chark's

896
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: not going to play and he's out for a while,

897
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: but just get back to being able to spread the

898
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: ball around the field. And then you're looking for weaknesses

899
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes that weakness is a one on one coverage,

900
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: even if it is a terrific player like that. And

901
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: there's been a rapport between Golf and Reynolds. You know,

902
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I think he's been probably their most consistent guy moment

903
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 1: one last year, and so I think when you see

904
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: that when you're Jared and you get that one on

905
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: one opportunity and I know he's turned the ball over,

906
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: and maybe through your head you're like, hey, I don't

907
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: want to make a bad decision, but to your point,

908
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: you've got to make some plays too, and you've got

909
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: to score some points. And when you see that opportunity

910
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: again with a guy you trust, I think you got

911
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: to take that shot. I think last year, when Reynolds

912
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: walked in the door is when you saw a golf

913
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: start to go like this. Now I'm in Ross started

914
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: going like this at about the same time. But there's

915
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind when they picked him up

916
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: late last year or middle of last year, that's when

917
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: Golf started to look comfortable. And that's where over those

918
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: last five six games he looked like the quarterback I

919
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: know this team wants him to be. He look that

920
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: way for the first month. He's got to get back

921
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: to that, and part of that will be look challenging

922
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: a defense like this and finding a way at home,

923
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: get that crowd behind you, make some plays, and just

924
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: start finding a way to tilt that scoreboard in your favor.

925
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: It's a big one. They need to win, man, you

926
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: gotta win. Look, whatever the record is, and you can

927
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: get bogged down in that, and we know what it is.

928
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, somebody told me they don't they

929
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: don't give any oxygen to the record, and that's probably

930
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: the best way to be. You just need to find

931
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: a way to win a game and then worry about

932
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: the next one after that. But they need to, as

933
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: you said, find some way to win. It is a

934
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: big game. He is, Dan Miller. Those are the bet

935
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Speaker 1: MGM matchups. Great stuff. I appreciate, appreciate you. Thanks man,