WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 26 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:09.280 Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football into the open field. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:20.840 Man is gonna go. It is Monday, August. This is 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:28.760 Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.120 And now a man whose unexpected retirement would go completely unnoticed. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:41.080 J Peece shad Rick. I wouldn't get booed either. Well, 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.400 command Jaguars Happy Hour by Jet Home Loans. I get 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.440 booed anyway. You make it boo boo booby when I 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.960 show up J P. Jadrick, that's Jeff Lockerman. Tony Buselli 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.880 Loggs is in tonight for Pete Frisco Pets in Kansas 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.960 City Chasing. An m v P quarterback interviewer told so, um, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.440 thanks for sitting in tonight, lot sure. I mean, holy cow, 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.800 were you guys like me over the weekend and stuff? 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.680 Here's what's going on in the show tonight. We'll get 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.120 to that in just a moment. Andrew Luck retiring and 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.679 obviously the huge duds in the a f C South. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.039 We'll get back to Josh Allen's performance. That's been the 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.280 talk of the town over the weekend. I think until 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.679 the Andrew Luck stuff. Some new defensive looks for this team. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.920 Where do the Jaguars offense stand after Week three of 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.240 the preseason? Some cuts coming up down the line. Doug 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.720 Marone hates this week, and we'll go around the national 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.120 football leagues. Well, lots stick get to tonight, A jam 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:40.360 pack program, busy weekend, busy and then actually wasn't that 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.520 busy for the Jags? And just I think the the 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.000 whole I mean the whole Andrew Luck thing, I think 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.480 shook the whole league. And then the controversy or the 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:53.160 arguments about whether he's right wrong and different timing wise. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.160 And then the secondary thing, which is probably more important 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.880 to this whole organization is wide open. The division become 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.800 or it changes the look at the division because I 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.240 thought the Colts were clearly the favorite after what they 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.840 did last year and the roster, and I still think 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.040 it is a very good roster. And and but with 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.520 Andrew Luck, I thought was the best quarterback, they were 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.720 the favorite. Him gone, it changes a lot of things, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:17.640 a lot. It was an interesting weekend. I didn't believe it. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.440 I didn't believe it. I had a double check the tweet. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.399 Just somebody had asked me the question what I thought 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.360 about Andrew Luck. And I'm like, what are you talking about? 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.160 Because I was at the was the Bold Cities showcase 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.480 b football games at Bowls and also somebody asking me about, Hey, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.760 what do you think about Andrew Luck. I'm like, well, 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.360 I think he's a great quarterback. What do you what 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.960 do you mean? They're like, you just announced her. There 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.000 was announced was he's gonna retire like whatever, and I 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.000 just completely ignored it. And then I realized that it 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.920 was true, and I was shocked, shocked, but I was 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.480 like at that point, I still was like, let me 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.800 I just want to hear it from his mouth. And 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.880 then when you saw the the video clip and the 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.160 and the fans that were booing them and everything, You're like, 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.240 come on on, I mean, I mean the fans, it 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.320 was too much. It was disappointed that they did, but 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.200 he was the franchise. He was the franchise, and it 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:12.399 came out of nowhere, and you know, your first reaction 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.359 is the wrong reaction, but it's an emotional reaction because 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.960 they're tied to their organization. They want to win, and 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.760 so I'm not saying it's okay, but there I mean, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.640 I'm sure they woke up the next morning, We're probably 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.840 regretted a little bit, but at the time, everybody was 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.760 caught up in that moment, and it's not how this 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.560 was supposed to go down. What we understand. He was 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.800 supposed to talk to the team and announce it the 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.400 next day at like three in the afternoon, and they 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.200 got leaked somehow, and that was not how it was 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.520 supposed to be at all. Well, it was shocking, like 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.680 Jeff said, But then if you as you look back 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.760 at the timeline, what has gone on. Something is not 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.120 right with his body, or how he is rehabbing it, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.000 or his body is responding, or what is going on mentally, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.520 like how he feels about the process, because I mean, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.960 he got a calf. The story was it was a 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.000 caffe injury in March April when he started coming back 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.920 to work out, that still got it. That then went 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.800 to a high ankle sprain and m R S. And 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.160 he has practiced twice since March and combining O t 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.919 AS in camp. So something was off. And you know 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.960 this is after coming missing seventeen because of the shoulder, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.560 So his body is not responding. And I think mentally, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.880 if you listened to what he said, he just couldn't 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.520 do anymore. And it's not just a season process, it's 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.400 a year round process. But here's the thing. I want 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.200 to say something because a lot of guys go through that. Listen, 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.680 rehabs a year round thing. Playing the NFL's a year 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.880 round and so what it told me, and this is okay, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.200 I'm not being critical, it's fine, is that he fell 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.159 in love out of love with football or and because 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.240 the love of the game and what you do has 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.720 to be high enough to deal with all the stuff 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.719 that goes into being able to play. And some point 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.160 it shifted where the pain in the rehab and the 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.000 mental the mental anguish and all the things that go 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.279 into doing your job as a professional athlete in the 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.920 NFL and as a quarterback that got bigger than how 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.320 he felt about the game. And I want to clarify something. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.160 Tony's not saying he doesn't love the game, but the 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:26.080 pain and the discomfort and the bad feelings exceed the 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.960 level of love that you have. He fell out, But 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.120 that's falling out of love with it. It's not. That's 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.720 not negative, it's not doesn't make like I heard read things. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.400 Though he's soft, he's not watch Andrew Luck play, he's 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:41.559 anything but soft. Remember one year in my career that 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.640 that I was close to where he was at. And 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.760 it was the year before I came here, and I 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.119 had a shoulder that I was playing with that needed reconstructing. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.440 I had torn PCL on my left knee. I never 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.720 missed a game. But playing like that and living like 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.680 that on a week to week basis, that's fun. No fun. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.359 And at the end of the season you have rehab 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.720 and then then you're like, you start feeling better and 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.160 you start feeling better about where you're gonna be at. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.040 But I mean, imagine Andrew Luck where he went through 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.760 the rehab process for a couple of years with his 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.160 shoulder and and now he has an issue that crops 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.520 up with his with his leg and it's not getting better. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.120 I mean, that's got to be emotional training. And here 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.760 here's the other reality. The reality is in the National 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.920 Football League and today than today's game. After seven years 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.800 in the National Football League, he has made generational, life 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:37.440 changing money. That's a fact. He's made more than a 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.479 hundred million dollars and his seven years in the National 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.600 Football and the in the clubs isn't going to take 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.960 back the twenty four that they could take. So does 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.640 does that factor in? Yeah, I mean it looks, but 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.960 that's why. But Jeff, that's why. Money to where you 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.640 can say, look, I'm done. Yeah, but here's but this 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.240 is why I think he fell in love with out 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.200 of love with the game. Because there's a lot of 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.120 guys that rehab year around. There's a lot of guys 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:00.760 who deal with English. There's a lot of guys in 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.160 this league and make a lot of money and they 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.400 continue to do it. Why Because they love the game. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.280 That's what they love. That's I mean the past. Some 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.480 guys love the game, Tony. Some guys love the money 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.880 and something. Some guys love everything that comes along with it. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.680 But my point is, but there's, like I got asked, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.400 is this gonna be something you're gonna see more and 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.600 more of because of all the money these guys make. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.200 I don't think it is. You're gonna have it every 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:24.800 once in a while. I mean I remember it was 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.400 like four or five years ago. The linebacker for the Forts, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.400 the starter can't remember his name, and he had a 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.679 couple of concussions and he retired out of the blue 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.000 when he was in the midst of his career and 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.080 everyone's like, oh my gosh, CT and concussion scares, and 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.920 you're gonna have all these guys he was draft like 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.800 second year, everyone's gonna start retiring because of the fear. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.240 It's just me a trend. It's hasn't happened since. And 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.240 Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck, and he is a guy 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.120 that wanted to do other things more than play the 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.920 game of football. But every guy in the NFL goes 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.880 through a process of the physical toll and the mental 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.480 all on their bodies. And I appreciate the fact that 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.440 he was raised right and he didn't have his identity 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.520 solely attached to football, and he was able to make 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.480 a decision for himself. Good for him. Well, the only 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.280 thing that would have been and I agree with you. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.520 And the other reason I'll say that, obviously something where 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.920 the game just lost its luster is because he very 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.080 easily could have gone on I R and they offered 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.840 it to him, or you could have taken another eight 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.680 or nine weeks, no pressure of getting back, take your time, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.840 get healthy and and come back for the end. And 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.360 he didn't even want to do that. So he was 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.640 done mentally, he was finished playing football and he couldn't 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.280 do it anymore. And if you know that, you don't 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:38.959 need to go out and you don't need to continue. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.280 And so that's where I actually I with Jeb. I 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.800 respect the fact that he knew he was done. He 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.720 couldn't do it anymore, He couldn't drive himself mentally and 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.760 physically to get ready to play a game because he 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.800 didn't love it enough Anymore's and that's not a criticism, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.440 that's just a fact. The only the only thing that 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.480 I've heard people say the frustration isn't and it's fair 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.920 enough is why did he wait till the very right 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.200 before the season to do it and put the organization 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.880 in the position that he did. My point that is, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.240 if you'd if you'd have done it right before training camp, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.880 what's different. They're not finding another quarterback. I mean, they're 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.040 not going here here. Here's the reality. Though he probably 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.120 didn't come to that conclusion until he actually made the 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.400 decision and called the team right, you know, I mean, 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.000 looks sometimes things happen like that, you know, in an 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.000 off season. I'm sure that he's like, oh, this is okay, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.000 because he actually said that the season was one of 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.320 the most rewarding seasons he's ever had, so he obviously 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.400 had fun the year and then to go back into that, Uh, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.200 I don't think he called like a dark place of 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.160 that cycle. I mean it was just too much for whatever. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.839 I mean, look here, here's the thing, what he has said. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.720 I take for exactly what has said. I don't read 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.360 anything into it. I don't try to decipher anything out 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.600 of it because I don't get the impression that what 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.199 Andrew Luck tells you and what is reality are two 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.120 different things. I believe that he's a totally honest guy 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.800 and he's up front. Doug Maron asked about this yesterday, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.000 in fact, that his press conference at the start of 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.640 the practice week and an opposing head coach in the 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.240 division thinking about the other team's quarterback. I know how 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.280 difficult it is, I know how difficult this game is. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.200 I don't know how great, great of a competitor is. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.320 So um, I felt it was unfortunate. You know that, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.280 you know, injuries are you know, taking part of it, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.640 and I'm sure it must have been very, very difficult 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:31.640 for him. Um, just just a loss for the game. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.959 There's Doug Marone with you know what a quote there 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.600 that kind of summed it up pretty easy, I think 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.400 right there, and it is. It is because he's a 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.240 really good football, great football player, great quarterback. UM loved 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.960 his competitive nature, everything about it about him, and he 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.800 played hard. Everything you read, he was a great teammate 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.760 and everything. Obviously just a smart guy. Did it right. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.920 Here's the reality. The game goes on. That's right. I 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.440 mean that's not. I mean it's a shock now, but 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.520 nobody's gonna be thinking about it week one. Jacoby Brissette 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.760 is not worried about this when he lines up. Nobody, 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.080 the players and the coaches are going to be thinking 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.079 about it. But but look, this is this is one 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.480 of the I would say, the most notable early retirements 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.760 from the NFL in NFL history. Bigger than Jim Brown, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:23.319 and he's right up there, Barry Sanders right up there. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.320 Just so you know, both of those guys are Hall 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.880 of famers. He's not going to the Hall of Fame. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.880 I still say that this is right up. I mean 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.520 it's big. You're talking about a franchise quarterback ten years 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.319 and his prime play for our ten years. I mean, absolutely, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.559 it's as big as those guys I'm saying, But it's 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:42.119 not everyone's it's the biggest because it's happening to us now. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.160 Ten years from now, it will still be ranked right 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.839 up there when we ranked up there. But to say 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.240 it's the biggest ever is who said biggest? Said the quote? 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.480 You said biggest. There you go again, playing them wax 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.360 out of your Earry Sanders was a big one. That's 0:11:58.360 --> 0:11:59.719 the one I remember when I was he was a 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:08.040 big one. There's no yead as one of the biggest. Absolutely, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.320 it's a it's a huge, biggest, absolute franchise quarterback, one 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.960 of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he was healthy, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.720 top five quarterback probably and decided to hang it up. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.240 He was a big deal. And he was seven and 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.400 three against the Jaguars. Here's here's the other thing that 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.920 makes it big. I mean from a from a financial standpoint, 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.840 you're talking about a guy that's walked away from ballpark 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.040 of three hundred million. Yeah, two to three for sure. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.199 Let me think about it. I mean, guys made a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.600 hundred three million, and if he had ten more years 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.800 of playing in the National Football League, his earnings would 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:47.959 have probably been two the minimum going up minimum two 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.199 other things. I mean, I mean, look, I mean that 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.800 that's that's that's the reality. So I think it that 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.439 that makes it pretty big huge. Yeah, we've got plenty 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.920 to get too. 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Um, 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.440 it's always good. Just stepping in the huddle playing a game. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.520 Is my first time wearing you know, the Jaguars uniform 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.040 in a game. Um, and that you know is emotional 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.120 in itself. UM, so that was a good first step forward. Um. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.680 We're able to, you know, move the ball a little 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.680 bit touchdown. Obviously we want to score more points and 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.679 you know, there's things that we'll learn from. But all 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.119 and all, it was great just being out there with 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.359 the guys today. Nick Foles, you might have heard of him, 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.720 Jaguars quarterback after the game Thursday night in Miami. Welcome 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.040 Back Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jet Homelands, j P Shadrick, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.720 Tony Baselli, Jeff Lagoman, and Tonight for Pete Prisco. He's 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.400 in Kansas City chasing Mahomes around, so he he need 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.040 he needs the extra time to chase him around apparently, 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.800 So that's okay. Hey, it's a big story. So hopefully 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.600 Pete can get a little inside scoop that we could use. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.040 That's not his job, I don't think, right, no matter 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.000 if it's his job or still steal stuff. He's a 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:47.840 neutral guy, allegedly, right he is. Yeah, I think he's 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.840 pretty neutral. Pretty coming up before we go. I'm looking 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.760 at you got this board here, Jeff, Yeah, I'm looking 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.040 at what about the game in Atlanta. You have a 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.880 lot of names on here you don't really need. They're 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.560 really a waste of time. Like you put a lot 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.400 of work into this, it's a waste. I'm not sure 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.399 why you have Clay's Campbell's name on the board. So 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.080 for those on radio, he's gonna play that has a 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.280 depth chart of defense on one team and offense and 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.520 the other team Ryan, No, No, I didn't need to 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.920 put it on there. Woh you know he might play 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.960 you think we're see Julio, Yeah, I mean this is 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:30.520 what a waste. This was just and just use the 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.000 board was a more room, right about the guys that 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.960 are gonna make the teams there on game night, I 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:37.600 think it's I think I will say this real quick 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.760 about the last preseason game. For for the guys that 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:46.440 are playing, that's got to be a bad feeling. Don't 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.800 let me forget let me say this about it. It's 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.000 a bad feeling from the standpoint of if you're playing, no, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.760 you're on the bubble. You're on the bubble at best, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.000 more than likely you're not gonna make it. If you're sitting, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.360 you're on the team based then at the same token, 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.920 you want to play your best because this is a watch, yeah, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.000 that somebody else might see. So it's gotta be kind 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.560 of bitter sweet for the guys that are playing in 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:15.120 this fourth preseason game. You know so, but look, God 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.520 bless him. I hope that they play well. I hope 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.000 they make a team somewhere. So what it's about just talking. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.960 We'll hear from some of the guys that are kind 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.000 of on the bubble in the locker room yesterday. In fact, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.200 coming up a little later on the program tonight, we'll 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.200 get to Josh Allen coming up a little bit later 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.760 and his night with some reaction to that. Yeah, we 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.040 called the postgame the overreaction hour, but it was it 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.679 was a nice night for him. We'll get to that 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.800 coming up. Offense. Just heard from the quarterback. What do 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.119 you guys stand on on the offense now? After the 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.040 four drives you saw the other night, are you more 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.000 less or the same amount of comfortable with what this 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.359 JAG's offense is going to be? You wanna go first? 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:58.639 I'm not more. I'm I'm just I'm not at the 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.520 same point like I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see. I'm 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.760 waiting to see as well. Yeah, I'm like that didn't do. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.720 He had two three interceptions and the play drive that 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.080 was eighted by penalties, and the running game still looks 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.879 not very good to me. Now. The funny thing is, 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.679 you go back to seventeen Jeff and I said, this 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.000 team is not gonna be able to run the ball. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.040 The run game stinks there. Their offensive lines really struggling. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.000 Because that's in seventeen. They couldn't move it an inch 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:27.040 and they had the starters aft the whole time. And 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:32.440 then they go to Houston and literally Pound crushed them 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.520 and ended up having a very good rushing year as 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.360 a team. Um. And so you never want to read 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.199 too much into the preseason, so I'm not going to. 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.119 But that didn't do much for me on Thursday night. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.360 And that's a that's a young, young Dolphins defense that's 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.800 not viewed as one of the top it's a bad defense. 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.720 So uh, and they were missing some starters on defense, 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.280 so uh, it was good to see and it was 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.920 good to see the starters get out there and play 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.640 a little bit. And it was even better to see 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.680 that nobody got hurt for the most part, so that 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.440 that was a positive. Yeah, dj Um, I think he's 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.040 gonna be okay. I mean he's and I haven't they 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.439 said anything about him, by the way, CUSSI protocol, I 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.480 mean nothing about the knee, and they don't have to 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.280 say anything about it. Not. The only thing they said 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.880 was protocol at the game, So it wasn't had nothing 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.399 because they have no I mean nothing. At this point 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.600 of the preseason, you're not going to talk about injuries 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.680 unless you have to, because now you're starting to get 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.800 to get close to the games when they count, so 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.560 you're gonna be pretty close to the vest with the 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.760 information that you have. So but I mean, it didn't 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.199 look like a need to me. It was just like 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.639 he just his mind and his feet weren't working together, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:47.240 and then he got at the beginning kind and it wasn't. 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.840 He just s thought, for whatever reason, looked to you guys, 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:53.800 I thought he looked I thought he I thought he 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.080 looked good once he kind of got out of that, 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.119 because I think there's an adjustment period when you go 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.600 into the preseason game because you're you're a practice speed 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.840 and then you have to kind of relearn the tempo 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.480 and the speed of a real game. And I thought 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.200 that once he kind of got going to the tempo, 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.680 I thought he was really good. The first couple of 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.840 series wasn't so good. I'd like to see him catch 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.199 that one ball that he had an opportunity in the 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.679 flat and I know that you know there was a 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.359 defender that was right there, but it would have been 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.760 a one on one opportunity. And also look, he could 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.840 have made the guy miss and maybe have gotten the 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.399 first down. I don't know, but I thought he looked solid. 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.320 And I thought he looked solid when he did get 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.000 out there in the in the past in the flat, 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.040 he made a nice contact with the guy knocked him down, 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.639 got an extra five or so. Yeah. I mean that 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.480 was when you could kind of tell that look, Okay, 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.880 now it's game speed and he's bringing it. I thought 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:46.639 the offensive line got better as the game progressed. Wasn't 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.640 good enough, No, I don't think it was good enough. 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.880 I thought that John Taylor, who had I want to say, 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.600 like nineteen snaps somewhere in that range, because he was 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.200 out there with the ones, he might have even had 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.119 more than that. He had a little deeper what he 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:02.840 went second, he went all the way and he had 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.679 twenty thirty seven snaps. I thought he was okay, but 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.840 there are some things that he needs to do with 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:09.960 his hands to can to be better. He lets his 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.040 hands get outside sometimes. And I hate to say this, 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:17.560 I thought Cam Robinson had a solid night, but he 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.480 also had this one play where I saw him extend 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:25.160 that leg out again, which was kind of a footwork 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.639 A footwork issue last year. Um, I don't know, Tony, 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.040 if you saw it or not, but it was one 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.879 play in particularly kind of he started to round his 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.280 set instead of continued to kiss. Very good. I talked 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:41.399 about the game really opened up quickly. We had six plays. Um, 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.159 I don't how do you feel about it when you 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.360 talked to him? Good? He felt good. Physically great? Yeah, 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:50.600 physically looks good. He felt good. Physical not very good 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.680 in the game. Um, I thought you wanna Taylor played 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.720 great for his first game. You gotta keep it in perspective. 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:58.480 I mean, just right, these things to work with, but 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.080 as far as doing your all, as far as doing 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.000 your job blocking people strong, he did a great job strong. 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.800 I thought will Richardson take the two uh false steps, 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.240 starts away what you can't do. I mean, obviously that's 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.400 part of it. I thought he was okay. I think 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.200 he's better than a j can right now. I think 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.440 there's more upside. I think they're even. I think you'd 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.600 go with the more upside. But it wasn't nearly as 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.680 good as the previous week with with Will Richardson. That's 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.800 a fact. But he's physical, he's big, he's athletic. He 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:33.240 gets his back flat, which means he moves people. UM 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.560 put him him in Jowana on the same side that 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.360 two big, strong road traders. Now, so I like that. 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.480 I wouldn't be surprised if you know he's starting. But 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.920 here here's I think the the tight end position concerns. 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.880 And Jeff Swain was back in the practice. We haven't 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.240 seen any tight ends that are gonna be on the 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.600 active rock, you understand. I mean that's the problem. That's 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.520 because it's not like there's no doubt. It's not like 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.320 you have Tony Gonsols and Shehannon's sharp you know, off 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.199 to the side. Way didn't block anybody. All he did 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.600 was catch pass. Okay, you don't want either, but Gronk, Yeah, 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.560 I'll take Gronk or you don't want Oh no, I 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.840 just I don't want a Hall of Famer. Yeah, no, 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.359 I don't want other Hall of Famer. But but I 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.200 think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens against 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.320 Kent's City on what is that September eight at the 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.960 right guard position, because you know, with a Juwan Taylor 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.840 at right tackle, there's a rookie. Do you feel better 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.080 about having an A j Can who has a lot 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.439 of games under his belt now in his fifth season 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:35.080 beside him, or do you go you know what, let's 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:40.960 go with Will Richardson, who is in his first kie. 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.560 You don't have any experience. Let me grow together kind 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.119 of well, I mean let him grow together is one idea. 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.560 Or the other thing is, hey, look we've got a rookie. 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.320 Let's get some experience next to our rookie right tackle 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.399 and you feel a little bit more comfortable in that 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.440 safe zone with a j king. Put the best guys 0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.720 out there, put your best five out there. But it's 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.040 a resting debate. I'm with Tony went I'm with Tony. 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.719 The idea is to be at your best by the 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.800 time you get in the playoffs. I mean, obviously you 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:13.119 want to get in the playoffs, but the roof is higher, 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.680 the ceiling is higher with Whereward Richardson. In my opinion, 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.119 all right, but you have at the offensive. 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But uh, 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.000 you know I felt better, you know today, Me and 0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.400 plays had a long top before and he definitely had 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.640 my mind and thinking about what I need to do 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.320 and how I need to do it. So um so 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.920 lose to him and a mon the saline talking to 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.000 me too, So you know it was a good day 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.120 to day. Josh Allen in the locker room in Miami 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.800 after his fantastic first half of the Jaguars preseason Week 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.560 three Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.960 We'll find out tonight if he can throw strikes or not. 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:08.440 He's throw on the first pitch at the Jumbo Shrimp 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.840 game tonight. Awesome. They're playing the Mobile BayBears tonight. Have 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.440 you done that throughout a first pitch? I did one 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.760 time at the jum No, no, no not. The Jumbo 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.880 Shrimp Hill was a high school game. I did the 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.640 Jumbo Shrimp. I bounced it to the plate by the Yeah. Yeah, 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.000 so I did it at the Jumbo shrimp back then 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:28.920 there with the suns. Now the jumper. Is that your 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.560 bad shoulder? You're right arm, it's my left. I wouldn't 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.080 have gone. I wouldn't even showing up and uh the U. 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.920 So you get there and they and JP. You know 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.040 this because so they tell you you can throw like 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.840 five steps in front of the mound. I can't do that, 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.880 can't do that. You're there to So they said, they 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.880 said here, throw up here. I said, there's not a 0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.840 chance you got going to the rubbers. Yeah, I did 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.200 the whole thing. Strike Get out of here. Give me 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.720 my word, how hard was it? I mean it was 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.920 was not lollipop. It was on a line. Really, but 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.920 I would say sixty maybe, I mean it was it 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.320 was gonna be. It was. They'd been practicing for No, 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.360 I'm throwing the baseball for years and but I mean 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.000 I grew up playing baseball and pitched, and uh, junior high. 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.680 My right shoulders the one I had reconstructed. There's twice 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.720 even did it. I had to try try and I 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:31.960 said I was like you. They're like, you can screwt 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:33.400 up a little bit. I'm like, I'm not doing that. 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.320 I'm going for the man. I would rather bounce it 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.000 or roll it to the plate than they didn't screw 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.560 it up and I bounced it, So I was I 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.440 was quite content with it to be six six inches. 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.600 Let's go. Is that what it is? I do? A strike? 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.040 That was what is the first base nine? Okay, that's 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.000 what you say. Me clarify this. When I say a strike, 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.000 the catcher did not have to get out of his 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.000 stance to catch it. That's a strike. I mean, I 0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.280 don't like it was an actual I call that it's strike. 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.320 If they swing at it, to remember that miss. There's 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.200 that's one thing. Man. You don't realize this is not 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.360 I'd like to see that Josh Allen tonight seven five. 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:15.120 But Jeff sitting on that mound and throwing it thinking 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.200 there's a batter. They're swinging as hard as you can. 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.640 I mean, those guys, you gotta have some you actually 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.400 have to do, not have to be tough, you just 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.680 have to have no brain or thought that that ball 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.400 can come back and hit you. Because if you're thinking 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.280 about that, you can't throw, You're done. You'll have the yips. 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.640 You can't throw. It's like they just have to It's 0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.360 an actual issue. Yeah, they just have to block that 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.280 stuff out. I mean, I assume that they don't. You 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:38.720 got through a good pitch. Is that way you don't 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.320 get hit? Well, it doesn't matter major ly. Hitters are 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.640 coming back at you one way, sooner later money who's 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.640 been hit by a comebacker before, and that is a 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.840 real mental girdle to come back from some guys. Yes, 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.840 sooner or later it's coming up. It's coming right back 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.840 at you. So, Josh Allen, that was the whole genesis 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.800 of that conversation. Tonight throw the first pitch of the 0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.320 Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp against the Mobile Bay Bears seven oh five, 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:04.280 the first pitch time tonight umi the biggest overreaction in 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.080 the preseason I can remember. You think he had a 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.520 great first half to Okay, go over what he did. 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.920 He had a couple of tackles for loss to hit 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.520 the quarterback twice, two of them, what four tackles to 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:22.040 total tackles. Um was in around almost a lot of 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.000 the place most of the plays, I would say, and 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:30.120 he was physically u uh powerful against the run. Yeah, 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.440 I thought he was stout when you did. When the 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.360 announcer didn't call his name, he looked good. So I 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.359 thought he played very well. And I think Josh Allens 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.520 gonna be a fabulous football player. I really do. I think. 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.440 I think it's a great pick. I've said it all along. 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:44.279 I still think he has a ways to go as 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:49.000 a pass rusher. Um, he's not as like when you 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.239 and I when Unique came in here, he was more 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.839 finished as a pass rusher. Would you not agree? Jeff 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.920 and me? He was eight with his hand use and 0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:04.440 like from Yeah, Josh Allen is a physical I'm not 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.719 talking about but I'm talking hand used and moves and 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.160 everything else like that. Josh Allen needs to continue to 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.759 progress there. He's me fabulous. The offensive line Dolphins is 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.880 the worst in the NFL and the tackles he was 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.400 playing against are atrocious. The first play that didn't even 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.280 block him. Yeah, and so I'm not taking anything away 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:25.960 from him. It was a great night, and I think 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:31.680 Josh Allen is going to be a outstanding player, maybe 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.200 has an opportunity to be rookie defensive Rookie of the Year, 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.880 you know, based on his just pure physical ability in 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.719 his in his uh, his knack to be around the ball. 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.640 I want to take a big deep breath. I mean 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.239 you if you listen to Twitter and some of the 0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.520 reactions from the local media, like let's put him in 0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.640 like all Pro Hall of Fame, like he's like the 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.719 greatest player on defense. Is going to like all the 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.080 stud like all of the sudden, it's like l T 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.520 s we have LT on the field. I'm like, well, well, wait, 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.680 back up his second. The kid, it's a rookie learning. 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.600 Let's not set I don't want to set these unreal expectations. 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.239 And he gets into the regular season and and like 0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.040 a lot of rookie starts a little slow. So all 0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.920 you're saying is, let's not give our let's not give 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:18.200 ourselves a speeding tickets. Okay, but you're still excited about 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.520 good because you were kind of starting to shave my blood. No, no, 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.840 no not. I think Josh I said this from the beginning. 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.560 I love the pick. I love watching practice. He's a 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.880 physical specimen. If he continues to work in like he 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.080 does because he listens to the veterans, he's working at 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.080 his craft, and he continues to do that and gets 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.640 a couple of pass rushing moves, the guys would be 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.840 very very good. Yeah, he'shnula be outstanding. But I'm like, 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.040 let's I'm not in the opinion that he needs to 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.319 find pass rushing moves. I mean, I think they'll come 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.359 with time, the ones that where he has a patent move, 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.760 but his his pass rushes speed and also the ability 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.640 to bend, spin and then work either side of the tackle. 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.040 Does he have a patent and move like in gock 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:04.920 Way right now? Now? My point is how to use 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:06.840 the speed and then go speed to power. If he 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.400 just does that, I'm not talking about he has to 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.759 become like the you know, figure out how he's gonna 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.440 spin like von Miller or or get that you know 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.840 hump moved like Greggy White or Unique. I think he 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.919 could handle all of the moves at some point. Got 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.560 that kind of saying right now, learn to have a 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.319 game plan, which he's progressing of going in using your 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.520 speed and go speed to power. You're gonna give up 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.040 most tackles in this league. Trouble. I was excited to 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.040 see the very first snap where they went to a 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.840 three four. That was the first play of the game right, 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.919 first player of the game, first play of the game, 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.080 and it was kind of it was kind of weird 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.439 because they started out with leon Jacob's out there, which, 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.880 by the way, they ran three four with leon Jacob's 0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.360 out there too, but the very first play they had 0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.359 leon Jacobs out there and then they run him off 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.080 the field. I'm going, what are they doing? Or do 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.920 they set? And then I saw Josh Allen running out there, 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.200 and I was going, wait a minute, they're not subbing 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.799 to Nickel, so what are they doing? And then that's 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:03.360 why I was paying attention to the lineup, and I 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.000 was like, oh my gosh, that's a three four, and 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.239 so what they essentially do when they go to a 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.040 three four number one, you're getting one of your best 0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.319 players on the field, which is Josh Allen, at the 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.799 same time as you have another one of your best 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.280 players on the field at same time, which is Yaniqueckway, 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.640 and and Gockway, from what it looked like, played the 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:27.200 sam outside linebacker and then Josh Allen played what would 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.120 be the will outside linebacker on the three four. Either 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.080 that or they're just playing left and right because he 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.680 likes the right side better. Yeah, So I don't know 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.200 because if John was on John was on the left side. 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.480 I thought he was on the right now, And when 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.120 he went three four, he was on the left side, 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.480 which is so they're playing Sam and Will. They're not 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.680 playing left and right, which in it's which they probably 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.759 could play left and right if they wanted to, which 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.239 would make some sense. I would the right every time 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.279 because it's a better past n a better pass rush 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.440 on the right side. Tony's right on that. So but 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.120 it was cool. I think they had maybe four, maybe 0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.360 five snaps of of what I would call three four defense. 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.680 If they only did it once with those guys right, No, 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:07.720 they did it uh twice with in Gockway and Josh 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.400 Allen as the outside backers, and then they did it 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:14.399 another two times with Leon. Yeah, I knew that, So 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.880 twice twice there there was four four that I counted 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.759 in the game of of true what I thought were 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.600 snapping against twelve or twenty one personnel. So against base 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.360 package back it wasn't It wasn't a sub or anything 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.279 like that. Now when they went to sub which is 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.520 their nickel package, and a lot of people at at 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.600 times we're thinking that it was a three four, but 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.640 it's the stand up package is a spinner, you know, 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.120 where he's the what I always call Lawrence Taylor made 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:45.959 it famous back in the day when he would stand 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.839 up and rush from anywhere, walk around, and that's kind 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.040 of what in Gockway does sometimes. And they have you know, 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:56.040 Klaius and Josh Allen down and then Marcel or Abrien 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.800 as the nose tackle and then Yahn's walking around rushing 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.839 you like I act you don't like you on at 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.759 that position as much effective, and I'm I'm with you. 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.880 But at the one time that they did have them, 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.799 that was when Josh Allen came free underneath and got 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.000 a hit on the quarterback. That's a little bit of 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:17.160 a game. So I like it, but it's not something 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.759 it doesn't need to be your staple for Janick and 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.960 Gockway in my opinion, in that three four and Gockway, 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.759 Allan on the outside, Avery in the middle, Calais and 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.279 it would have been Marcel Darius correct, but it was 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.760 Taven And then in that game, that's right, that's pretty 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.359 good vibe right there. Look, you're getting your best, you're 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.400 getting your best players on the field. And during the 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.040 game they played a lot of man coverage with that. Uh, 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.520 are they gonna do other things out of that shore 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.239 They can. They can do whatever they want out of 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.120 that because in Gockway and and Josh Allen can drop 0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:50.479 in coverage. As you could see from watching Josh Allen 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.319 make that tackle out in space on the flat throw 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:54.960 when it was a fire zone when they were running 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.640 a four three fire zone, which is one of the 0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:01.239 more impressive plays still talks about. It's like unblocked hits 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.080 to the quarterback or unblocked tackle for a loss. Those 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.400 are like great. I mean, every good player gets unblocked 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.799 at times, and they got you gotta capitalize because not 0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.719 all guys can't even when they're unblocked. What was most 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.480 impressive at Twitter and seventy pounds of operating in space 0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:19.480 and making the open field tackle in the athletic ability 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.680 that I saw on that play that was more impressive 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.920 than anything else. Let me add something that play, what 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:28.040 I thought was as as impressive as the athletic ability. 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.480 When he's lining up, he's in a two point stance 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:35.200 and he he looks like he's coming and he also 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.920 takes a peek to the outside before the snap and 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:40.480 he's goin to get an idea of the lay of 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.680 the land. That little peak allowed him to know that 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.200 there was traffic coming. So when he has to drop, 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.279 the back is flaring out of the backfield and then 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.120 he has to get to the flat to cover them. Well, 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.960 there was a wide receiver in Trey Herndon that were there, 0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.960 but he knew that he would have to get cleaned 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.200 by them to avoid them to get to the flat 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:03.200 to make that play. But to have the awareness of 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.360 getting clean by that to get to the flat to 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:10.400 make that tackle, which shows the athleticism I thought was 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:14.359 was great. A yeah, because when you when you add 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.080 there was a lot of In fact, early in my 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:18.400 career there was a guy I'm not I'm not going 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.920 to name his name, but he had so much athleticism 0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.680 and talent it was unbelievable, but he had no awareness 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.440 and so pretty limited. If the guy had awareness, he 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.160 i would have never gotten a starting job my rookie year. 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.759 And uh, but that's good to see out of out 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.919 of him, because that's typically something that a player doesn't 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:40.920 get until a few years down the roads. Well sometimes 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.440 they never get it, that's right, And I think that's 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.360 that's all part of the conversation we're having about Tavin 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:49.719 awareness Awareness awareness, right, I mean, you know, does he 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.680 have it? Well, we we got to see what else 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:58.440 on defense stood out. We're talking about Tavin that the 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:03.680 two penalties were bad, I mean bad. I mean that's 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:07.280 that's just being smart, and that that was not smart football. 0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.120 And you know, obviously it's a reaction to the criticism 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.400 that he's been under or the pressure that he feels 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:15.960 because you know, he had the interview last week and 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.040 he was talking about how you know, you're gonna see 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.280 more of the real me and all this, and well, 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.160 I hope that's not more of the real hymn getting 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.080 the penalties. And it's a shame tony because one of 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.719 the penalties that he had had a great move, I 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.000 mean power move, grabs a guard, throws, pushes him back, 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.759 pulls him forward and does a pull rip swim and 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.920 gets by him and then he chases down the quarterback 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.680 and it hits him and it was clear it wasn't like, 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.800 oh I'm not sure the ball was gone. It was 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:44.279 right in front of him and he still that's when 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.000 he took like two or three steps and he and 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.200 he pushed Fitzgerald and he falls down the great Patrick 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.080 independalty Fitzpatrick and in the penalty comes out. I mean, 0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.440 that's that was not a smart play. That that can't happen. 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.960 It's concern for me the depth of the defensive line 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.239 and at the three technique. No, Marcel Darius has been 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.680 out with an injury. Um, he I believe it. I 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.319 read the report today. Didn't practice today again, So he's 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.080 not gonna play this week, which is fine, you didn't 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:15.080 expect him anyways. But if Martin cel Darius isn't ready, 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.560 you're starting Tavin Bryant. And I don't know about Jeff, 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.200 but there's not a lot that I've seen this camp 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.560 that gives me a lot of confidence that the consistency's 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:27.240 gonna be there. Um with him starting as your three technique, 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.200 but he needs to be better. I mean, there's no 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:32.799 doubt in easy. How do you feel, I mean, Jeff, 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:34.799 if you're going to the season with Tavin Bryan's you're 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:40.239 starting three on this defense, I'm not I'm not freaked out, 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.640 but I'm not happy. I can tell you that because 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:50.440 Marcel Darius is a very aware, big, strong guy, whereas 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.040 Tavin's still he's still trying to learn that stuff and 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.839 and to go with Tony said, hopefully this is something 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.959 that he does learn. Doug Maron asked about Tavin bryan 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.839 in and if he took a step back in the 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:05.960 game on Thursday night. Here's Duge response. You just gotta fight. 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.840 I mean, that's the one thing. And if you don't, 0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:10.400 you know, if you give up on yourself, will health 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.920 How's how's anyone else going to really? Um, you know, 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.480 keep you along. So you know, Tavin's you know, he's 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.920 he's had a set back. Um, he's probably disappointed, you know, 0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.560 but hey, he's gotta you know, get his mind right 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.399 and go because there was some things he was doing 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.600 earlier that that we're really exciting and really would really 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.360 be able to help our football team. So uh, and 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.440 that's what he wants to do. So you know, strap 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.840 it up and get your ass out there and go play. 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:41.279 It doesn't really sound like it doesn't really sound like 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.960 a message from the head coach. It's like overly endorsing. 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.840 It's a far cry from what he said after the 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.080 first preseason game. I can tell you that sure he was. 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.439 He was talking ab up after that first game point, 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:58.840 which I thought was yes, thank you, but do you 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.480 have it? I just think you talk. We talked about 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.279 these things and talked about awareness. We talked about me 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.680 on the big plays. I mean, Tavin Bryant is a 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.760 maybe the strongest guy on the team, UM, A physical, tough, 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.399 all those things, but the instincts of awareness to make 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:19.240 plays we have not seen. And you talk to people 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.520 that watch him at Florida they said the same thing. 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.879 That was like the knock coming out right. I mean, Jeff, 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.120 you watched the tape. That was it. He was always close, 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:32.640 always close. 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And everybody's gotta understand how many players he 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.600 can get all those type of things, and you know 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.520 coach Maron does a great job of that. He he 0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.200 communicates with us well. And this philosophy is he if 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:49.680 a guy is a starter and he's a good special 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.480 teams player, let's put him out there. Joe Dick camillis 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.480 special teams coordinator, talk to him today. You'll hear the 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.920 full interview coming up on the Public Stailgate Show. That's Thursday. Um, 0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:00.799 let's the games that set and so we're on at 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.800 four with the Public Tailgate Show Thursday, ahead of the 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.320 Jags and the Falcons here at t i A bank Field. 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.719 I'm good to visit with Joe, of course. Yeah, he's 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.160 he's uh, one of the one of the best special 0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:14.440 teams coaches I think in the National Football League and 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:17.080 does a really good job and for thirty years. Well, 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:19.399 in this game that's coming up on Thursday night, there's 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.960 a lot of evaluation that's going to be going on 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.200 in his department to determine whether or not guys are 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:26.640 gonna make the team or not. It's a lot of 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:31.439 chaos two for him. Yeah, Like those guys are gonna 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:35.320 ninety man roster. You probably have seventy that are available 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.480 for special teams. Yeah, and like, like, let's be honest, 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.920 they're gonna have fifty three guys. They're keeping nine on 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:47.879 press squad at least half of those who come from 0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:54.360 other teams. Let's say three or four. Let's say between 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:58.080 practice squad and the other. Um, you're gonna have eight 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.839 guys from other teams come. So that leaves you at 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:05.080 fifty five guys out of the ninety are gonna make 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.839 it that are out there right now. That's forty five 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.320 guys are gonna be accountants and you know, and lawyers 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:16.400 and other things. I mean, but my point is not 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:20.520 in the NFL come Saturday, and those are the guys 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.560 that Jody Camillis and the rest of this group has 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.480 to coach up. And special teams is always the hardest 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.480 because it's moving and it's a lot of rotation, and 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:35.239 it's not uh substitution like is in a rhythm like 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:37.320 offensive defense, because you go out there for a series 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:38.960 and you kind of have your play. It's like sudden 0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:43.120 all right, punting, like this guy's down or this guy's out, 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.920 Like who okay, who's that gunner. There's gonna be a 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.080 lot of tired guys in the game on Thursday night 0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.279 because of the amount of guys that won't play. Leave 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.000 the guys that will be playing, they've got to play 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.080 on defense or all offense, and they got to play 0:52:57.080 --> 0:53:00.920 on special teams. And that was Joe point in the 0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:02.880 clip of here coming back. How do you balance playing 0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.000 time on offense defense with special teams time to look 0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:08.319 in the last preseason game, you're balancing it with guys 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.200 that aren't gonna be on your roster, and you're just going, hey, 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:13.000 bub you're you're playing, you know, so get ready and 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.120 drink lots of water this week leading up to the game. 0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:20.920 But there's probably probably four three or four guys that 0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:23.560 are going to be playing that are that need to 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:28.080 have good performances on on special teams and their positional 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:31.919 group to be able to make this roster. I mean, 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.400 like maybe like a guy like c J Board or 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:39.600 Trading Pride or Robinson the Corner. I think Josh Robinson, 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:41.960 I think he's uh. I think there you don't think 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.279 he has to do anything this week. I mean he's 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.480 done everything every week to me for me, I mean, 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.520 so for me, I wouldn't. I would. I don't need 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.279 anything to anything seen from him. And it's not like 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.440 he's a He's been doing it for time and he 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:58.240 gets it. I would probably consider sitting him just because, 0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.440 you know, if you didn't have depth at that corner 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.319 defensive back position, I would consider playing him. But I 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:05.799 think he got enough depth there to where if he's 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.000 gonna be on the roster, that you keep him because 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:12.280 he's shown to me that he can play special teams, 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.640 he can play safety, and he can play corner, and 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:20.600 that versatility it has, has a lot of value when 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:22.919 you're talking about making the decision on a guy who's 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:26.360 gonna make a final roster spot. Much like when we 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.960 were in Baltimore, who's that big fullback slash defensive tackle 0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:38.359 or one card and he was good full back? Now 0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:41.200 not recording me, I can't remember his name, but I'll 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.040 find it out. But anyway, a guy like that that 0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:45.959 can play offense and defense and then play him both 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:51.920 really pretty well and special teams lock. It's for example, 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:56.840 if Terrell Prior could play special teams and play it 0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:02.160 well like a two twenty eight pound linebacker you might 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.320 expect to play. So in other words, off Troull Prior, 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:08.319 we could use his size or however how much he ways. 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.280 He might be too forty for all I know speed. 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:14.080 But if he could play good special teams, Troull Prior 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.840 would play as long as he wanted to in the 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:21.080 National Football League. But he doesn't play special teams. Is 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:24.759 he gonna make it? No? Is? What's the latest with 0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.759 his injury? 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Pete is not in 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:05.280 South Florida. He is in Kansas City, hammering barbecue and 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:10.080 chasing a quarterback around hammering barbecue. So he'll be back 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:11.800 with us next week, which I mean he's like eating 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:16.520 a lot of barbecues. Yes, yes, that's what that is. So, um, 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:18.880 well he'll be back with us. Logs. Great to have you. 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:21.320 Good to be here, um, good to be anywhere, good 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:27.840 to be right point. That's it's just good to be anywhere. 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:31.720 That's what Keith Richards said at the concert the other Um, 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:33.960 so all right, here we go, uh, second hour of 1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:36.520 Jaguars Happy Are coming up, we'll go around the National 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.480 Football League. We'll touch on the a f C South, 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:40.720 not only Andrew Luck, but some other storylines of other 1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.480 teams on the division. The last a week or so, 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:45.200 it's been a busy week in the a f C South. 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.200 Let's continue our offensive line conversation. We touched on this 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:53.240 group earlier and kind of talked about the game and 1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:56.600 Cam Robinson snaps in the battle at right garden. All 1:00:56.920 --> 1:00:59.360 let's I want to say one more thing about Camer Robinson. Yes, 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:04.919 he's a still a young player who really has played 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:09.080 one year. Right in the game and a half, Yeah, 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.560 not half a game. It was the first quarter he 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:18.200 got hurt. Um, how do you feel about him coming 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:21.880 back and you know, starting sixteen games off the a 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:25.960 c L after having six plays in the preseason. Uh, 1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:28.680 I'm not very comfortable with it. I was thinking the 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:31.600 same thing now, I think camp My position of Cam's 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:34.160 ever changed. I think he's immensely talented. I love his nastiness, 1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:36.560 he's physical, he's tough. I just think his footwork has 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:40.240 been just really average at best and what gets him 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:44.160 in trouble And Um, I'm not gonna make any judgments 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:46.400 from the six plays we saw, but it wasn't good. 1:01:46.440 --> 1:01:48.240 But that's okay, I mean, coming back from a c L, 1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:52.040 just just beat out there. Yeah, just yeah. I'm like, 1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:54.680 I don't want to be critical. Really he's working hard, 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:58.920 but that has to get better, and his conditioning is 1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:02.360 not going to be where it needs to be. I mean, 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.160 I'll tell you right now, I've I've done it playing 1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:06.480 temporary teen plays in the preseason coming off in a 1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:08.600 c L and I was seven and a half months 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:14.560 and his is gonna be almost eleven um. But you're 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.040 the for that first few you're like that first game 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:25.680 sucking wind. I mean it's I mean, by the way, 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:27.840 you're playing against a pretty damn good player in Frank Clark. 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:33.479 He's pretty good. Yeah, and so I'm I'm a little 1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:37.240 worried about that. H I think that's interesting. I think 1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:39.720 now let me I'll talk about this, and we'll talk 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:42.040 about this to falling week JP with Pete and Jeff 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:44.080 and I will talk about on Thursday Night show. Leading 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:47.320 up to the game. I think if you're John D. Philippo, 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:49.360 you have the game plan for that. I mean, that's 1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:51.240 a game plan and then and you better hope you 1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:54.160 got your rookie, right, a rookie on the other side. Okay, 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:57.600 right now, who are you more confident in? BA? I'm 1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:01.160 more confident in Juan Taylor's past protection. My point is 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:05.200 you have to pick one. You have to get like, 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:06.880 if you want to actually sing guys out in the 1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:10.000 past route, you gotta pick one. Now. The one good 1:03:10.000 --> 1:03:12.040 thing is if you watch Philly in the past, and 1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:13.600 you watch a lot of teams, and we didn't do 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:16.320 it for very much in the past. We did at times. 1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:18.640 I think John d Footballill do a good job of 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:22.640 chipping on the way out with tight ends, formationing the 1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:25.720 defense to help his tackles if they're struggling. And you 1:03:25.760 --> 1:03:28.040 can do that on both sides, but as far as 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.600 like really helping and really game planning, you'd like don't 1:03:30.640 --> 1:03:32.520 have to do it on one side of the offensive line. 1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:35.600 I think you have to choose Cam Robinson early, just 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:38.480 because he's coming off as a c L and as 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:41.360 I've been thinking about this first quarter of the season, 1:03:41.360 --> 1:03:43.040 you know, we break it down the quarters at first 1:03:43.040 --> 1:03:48.000 four games. Cam Robinson's gonna be work in progress, and 1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:50.520 I just want to set expectations if everyone listening, and 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:54.080 that's normal he's a young player. Not being critical, he's 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:55.360 a young player. Come up with a c L who 1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:59.680 hasn't a lot of reps with with that work in progress. 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:03.160 We were just talking during a break about making the 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:07.360 cuts on this offensive line. Let's assume that we have 1:04:08.120 --> 1:04:13.720 eight spots open. Okay, eight spots maybe nine, eight for sure. 1:04:13.920 --> 1:04:16.280 And here and here's why I say, Hey, don't you 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:20.680 want to keep one extra guy, maybe a tackle to 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.400 help out if you need help with that tackle position. Well, 1:04:24.440 --> 1:04:27.360 depending on the depth, sometimes you'll keep nine. Absolutely. But 1:04:27.440 --> 1:04:30.080 here's here's why I say that is because the way 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:35.040 he had a hamstring just today. Okay, um, do you 1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:38.360 expect him back? Yes? Maybe, Um, but you would like 1:04:38.440 --> 1:04:41.160 to have since Will Richardson is really no longer a 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:44.919 tackle now he's competing that guard, do you now want 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:48.200 to have a backup tackle? So, and I know that 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:50.000 Josh Wells, we haven't seen him get a lot of 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:53.480 snaps in the preseason. Leonard Wester has not been great 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:57.600 in the preseason. Been Elana was brought in Layton camp, 1:04:57.640 --> 1:05:01.280 but Wester is clearly the number is clearly guy the 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:03.720 second tackle. Let me ask you this, Tony, I'm just 1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:06.120 telling you what by the depth charts and playing time. 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:09.240 And I'm not saying it would you would you would 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:11.920 he be a part of you would not listen? We 1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:14.680 can all agree on these ones right here, which is 1:05:14.680 --> 1:05:18.880 our starters. Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lender, A J 1:05:19.040 --> 1:05:21.400 Can and Will Richardson will put both of them in there. 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:24.680 So that's five cedrical boy he is six and Juwan 1:05:24.760 --> 1:05:30.400 Taylor you're starting right tackle is seven? Seven? Uh one Shatle. 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:32.720 I'll say this, Shatley, I thought was gonna be on 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:35.400 his way out, but I think you're going anywhere. I 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:38.160 don't think. I think he's back. You can snap, you 1:05:38.200 --> 1:05:40.840 can play guards. I've got eight right there. Well. The 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:43.000 reason why I say Shatley I think is a lock 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:47.120 is number one. Uh. Brandon Lender has not been able 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:49.680 to play sixteen games and in quite some time. So 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:52.280 I'd like to have a guy that can start at center. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:54.640 He's ever done it? Maybe not, but you want to 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:56.400 have a guy that can start at center weekend a 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:58.280 week out, and Tyler Shatley has proven that he can 1:05:58.280 --> 1:06:00.600 do that. A J. Cann is taken snap apps, I 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:02.880 would feel more comfortable with a J. Cannon the role 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:05.680 if he's not starting, He's gonna be a swing guy 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:09.520 for games. What about McDermott, good question. He's played well 1:06:09.520 --> 1:06:12.720 in the preseason, hasn't practiced great, good question, And hasn't 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:14.840 played much in the preseason. But when he has, he's 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:17.040 done pretty good out there. Yeah, he's done pretty good job. 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:20.920 But would wouldn't you want to have another tackle of 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:23.919 because then Brandon Thomas has been talked a little bit 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:26.400 about by the coaching staff. They kind of like him. 1:06:26.640 --> 1:06:29.720 Darnal Green for a while was hot and he's probably 1:06:29.720 --> 1:06:33.360 a practice a practice squad guy, anybody as far as 1:06:33.360 --> 1:06:35.440 the active roster, Yeah, no, Donnelle Green is not going 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:38.040 to make the active roster. He's he's a practice squad guy. 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:40.360 He was a tackle at Minnesota and now they've moved 1:06:40.400 --> 1:06:43.200 him into guard. He is a practice squad type of guy. 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:46.240 We ask you this, if you know, if there's the 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:48.640 concern about Cam that you just talked about, you know, 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:52.520 he's hurt in a Blaze's banged up week one. Still, 1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:54.919 that's my point. Do you keep nine now going into 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:57.320 the season, Wells as an extra guy or West or 1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:59.960 whoever they like, somebody might keep both. Let me ask 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:03.680 you just because bodies we got eight. If you had, 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:07.680 if you could keep nine, Tony bull Sell, who would 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:10.520 you want to have? Is your nine? And we're assuming 1:07:10.920 --> 1:07:16.080 Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lendner, Tyler Shatley, A J. Camwell, Richardson, 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:19.960 Cedricoboyhey and Joan Taylor? Are your eight? All right? If 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:22.480 you're asking me, because I'm saying, who can if I 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:24.520 have to get someone to go play left tackle for 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:26.520 one game to get me, you're saying is if you 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:30.439 had nine roster I'm thinking about it, then I would 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:32.400 right now. And I know this is not the view 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:34.280 of the coaching staff. And I only know this because 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:37.240 based on playing time is I would pick Welles before 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.600 I put Wester. So would I. But if you look 1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:43.760 at what the uh George Warhop, the offensive line coach, 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:48.160 and Doug Morone and how they've structured the playing time 1:07:48.760 --> 1:07:52.160 in the preseason, Western is clearly ahead of Josh Wales. 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.160 I don't see it now. I don't watch every practice. 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:58.080 I'm not in the meetings. I don't know just from 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:00.920 the games, just from the game stuff it I'm watching 1:08:01.680 --> 1:08:06.320 and practice the practices I've seen, I think Wells I'd 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:08.840 feel more comfortable with Wells because the athletic ability Western 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:11.840 is more powerful, no doubt about it. But movement he 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:15.000 struggles with. And he guys get on the edge really fast. 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:17.519 We saw it on the interception play at the holding 1:08:17.560 --> 1:08:22.160 to save Nick Foles. He almost died Nick well Yeah, 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:24.559 West was the greatest penalty I've ever seen anyone commit 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:27.439 because Nick Foles was about to get hammered. And so 1:08:27.640 --> 1:08:30.600 I would feel better about Wells because I think you 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:34.160 have an issue right now at left tackle. Juwan Taylor 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:36.680 is not a left tackle, never played it. He's the 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:39.559 right tackle. I think he played a little bit of 1:08:39.560 --> 1:08:43.240 it in Florida, is early, in his very early. I 1:08:43.240 --> 1:08:44.680 know he's the right tackle I'm saying I don't. I 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:49.559 think it's just like spot duty, um, where he is hurt. 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:55.040 Way he struggled. I mean both tackles, especially at left tackle. 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:57.719 We saw struggle against the Eagles. How bad is the hamstring? 1:08:57.760 --> 1:08:59.920 We don't know. We don't even know how bad practice 1:09:00.000 --> 1:09:05.800 And say, um, will Richardson is a right tackle. What 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:07.760 I'm saying, But if he had to play tackle, he 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:10.240 could play right tackle for you, because that was the 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.360 idea when it came in. But he's gonna I mean, 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:14.719 I'm as I'm thinking through these scenarios and like, who's 1:09:14.720 --> 1:09:17.920 gonna play left tackle on the roster? Well ways hurt 1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:21.519 Jewan Taylor is not he's your right tackle. Will Richardson 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:23.240 is a right tackle. I don't think he's ever even 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:29.360 played left tackle and he's probably starting right guard. Left. 1:09:29.439 --> 1:09:32.600 Who's left it? You got? You got the choice of 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:36.200 really three guys wester Well wester Wells or Alana and 1:09:36.240 --> 1:09:38.960 I haven't seen the left or if if there's a 1:09:39.000 --> 1:09:42.280 guy on waiver wires there's not left left tackle, let 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:47.640 me say this, left tackles, don't put it this. You 1:09:47.680 --> 1:09:50.439 know you're picking up a Lana or wester if you 1:09:50.479 --> 1:09:54.880 were to keep Wells if you're another team, probably not 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:58.040 not unless it was dire straits, yeah, dire straits or 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:03.200 desperate Yeah, I think it's a call for desperate measures, 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:10.320 you know. But it's right, Logs. We'll get your mic 1:10:10.360 --> 1:10:12.559 back on in just a moment here. These are perfect, 1:10:13.400 --> 1:10:18.640 just got better here, but that it's it's an interesting conversation. 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:22.560 Really can go down to the wire here an opening day. 1:10:22.600 --> 1:10:25.000 It's a concern and who's up and down and healthy 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:27.360 and not It is a real concert. The left tackle 1:10:27.400 --> 1:10:30.120 position has been a concern of mine all camp. It 1:10:30.160 --> 1:10:33.120 continues to be a concern. And I'm not and if 1:10:33.160 --> 1:10:34.920 Cam Robinsons listen to this, this this has nothing to do 1:10:34.960 --> 1:10:36.639 with whether I think Cam Robinson is a good player 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:38.640 or not. He's a young player. Come off in a 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:43.200 c L in the first in the first few games, 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:44.800 he's gonna be it. It's gonna be a bat. He's 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:48.519 af the battle and it's not gonna be easy, and 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:50.360 he knows it. And that's okay. He's a competitor. But 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:56.559 right now, you don't have an answer if something were 1:10:56.600 --> 1:11:01.080 to happen to Cam Robinson and answer that, you're really 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:06.439 unless unless he's healthy, then he's the guy. Then he's 1:11:06.479 --> 1:11:08.360 the guy, and you can and you can listen away. 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:11.519 As far as backup tackles, that's a good he's a 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:15.200 good solution in this league is having a guy like 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:18.320 nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm not I don't 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:22.880 want them to start. I came to start, but um, 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:25.840 it'll be interesting to watch and and we'll talk about 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:30.120 all week leading up to the Kansas City game. But 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:33.679 that's a that's a that's something that John d Felippo 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:36.360 is gonna have to and that offensive staff is gonna 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:39.000 have the game playing for Frank Frank Clark coming to town. 1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:46.440 Jeff Logan was back with us, no welcome back anywhere. 1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:50.120 How did it become my issue because he's always passing 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:52.120 the buck. I have nothing you blame that you are, 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:57.160 that you are the biggest finger pointer, Like what a 1:11:57.200 --> 1:12:00.000 bad teammate. I mean just points of thing. I don't 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:01.360 know how you doing on the other shows, Jeff, but 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:03.120 on this show, we don't point the finger. I take 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:07.920 a yell at show responsibility for our action. I don't 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:13.280 know about that. Wow, that's a fact. It's not a fact. 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:18.400 I did nothing. This chord right here, Okay, see that 1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:20.840 one right there. Yeah, that'll see your big foot right there. 1:12:21.360 --> 1:12:23.559 That chord is attached to this right here, and you're 1:12:23.560 --> 1:12:27.080 pulling it away. I'm not pulling anything away, Thank you 1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:30.920 very much. We're back in a moment trying to figure this. 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:32.760 I thought it was bad Pete. I thought it was 1:12:32.760 --> 1:12:34.559 bad with Pete on this show, Jeff is so much worse. 1:12:35.160 --> 1:12:39.679 We were on a good run. Bad teammate, point the finger. 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:41.559 You know what you do when you Mike goes out 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:46.280 just suck it up and figure it out. See everyone 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:48.519 sees it wright till the break you'll point another finger 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:52.320 at him, probably to back. 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Another one was McBride, the wide receiver 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:41.080 who's kind of on the bubble, but he's a fourth 1:17:41.160 --> 1:17:42.920 year player. He's been around the league and he kind 1:17:42.920 --> 1:17:45.640 of understands what this week is about. And if you 1:17:45.880 --> 1:17:50.960 if you play against they get it again what this 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.559 week is about, and how to handle the rookies o JP. 1:17:53.720 --> 1:17:55.760 They don't know what it's about. No, they don't know 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.160 what it's a weird feeling in the in the just 1:17:58.320 --> 1:18:01.000 walking around the locker room again today. Just it's because 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:04.760 next week after, I mean, what thirty the guys are gone. 1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:08.040 It was always amazing to me when when we would 1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:10.200 have roster cuts, it was it was more of a 1:18:10.280 --> 1:18:12.760 step system than what it is today, because you went 1:18:12.840 --> 1:18:15.920 we went from ninety to seventy five and then down 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:17.840 to fifty three and then they made it now just 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:20.759 one cut so that they would have more players available 1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:22.519 to play in the last preseason game. It was only 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:27.320 a few years ago they changed that, and uh, I 1:18:27.479 --> 1:18:29.760 just remember when we went from seventy five down to 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:32.599 fifty three. I mean it was it was a big change. 1:18:33.520 --> 1:18:35.680 And uh when you came back in the locker room 1:18:35.720 --> 1:18:38.080 and you're like, is this all that's on our team now? 1:18:38.680 --> 1:18:40.400 You know, because the numbers all of a sudden shrinks 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:43.320 so dramatically, and you and it. It is kind of hard. 1:18:43.760 --> 1:18:45.519 The first couple of days is kind of hard, but 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:48.639 you really don't want to waste much time thinking about 1:18:48.680 --> 1:18:50.560 it because look, you gotta you got a game that 1:18:50.680 --> 1:18:53.640 counts coming up in a week. So so it's a 1:18:53.720 --> 1:18:56.040 lot different. But you know, a guy like Eli Elienko, 1:18:56.680 --> 1:19:00.160 I mean, he's rightfully taking the right approach because as 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:02.439 he's a bubble guy, and he's a guy that you 1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:04.880 now have a draft pick that was drafted in Dontevious 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:08.280 Russell from Auburn in the seventh round and has been 1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:10.760 a guy that's shown mobility, he shows that he's got 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:13.880 some pass for us, he's got sized like Elienko, And 1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:17.680 so it's gonna be a tough decision between one of 1:19:17.720 --> 1:19:19.560 those two guys and Tony. I think it's gonna be 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:22.320 one or the other, and I think it's gonna be Russell. 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:27.479 Russell is more athletic, moves better. Elian, who's really a 1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:29.920 two gap type of player, Um would be great in 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:32.960 the three or four as a nose good football player. 1:19:33.080 --> 1:19:34.720 Taking nothing away from him, but I just think the 1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:37.360 athletic ability of Russell is probably gonna give him a 1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:39.640 little bit of the edge, you know. It did to 1:19:39.720 --> 1:19:42.920 pick up on Jeff was saying about cut day, and 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.240 Jeff and I are always in a different situation, I mean, 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:48.160 being high draft picks and then you know, you don't 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:50.479 worry about that kind of stuff. But what I found 1:19:50.560 --> 1:19:54.559 interesting is it affects everybody because your friends, I mean, 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:58.439 and it it really the big impact is the closer 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:01.360 you like your position group, because that's who you're really 1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:03.960 close to camp. I mean, not that you're close to 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:06.479 other guys. When you're friends with the defensive lineman, you hang, 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:08.559 I mean, you eat together maybe, and you have your 1:20:08.640 --> 1:20:10.920 group of you know, the click whatever. There's clicks within 1:20:11.040 --> 1:20:14.160 every organization and everything else, but you really become close 1:20:14.240 --> 1:20:16.160 with the guys that you're in the meetings with all 1:20:16.200 --> 1:20:18.479 the time, especially in the old days when you're practicing 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:20.160 twice a day and you're at meeting still ten ten 1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:22.519 thirty at night, and so you spend a lot of 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:24.599 time during camp and then all of a sudden, these 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:29.600 are guys that get cut and they're your friends. And 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:32.480 that's the difficult part because you know it greatly impacts 1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:36.400 their lives. Some of them have families and wives and 1:20:36.439 --> 1:20:38.559 they're you know, trying to figure out, you know, trying 1:20:38.600 --> 1:20:40.040 to get on somewhere else, or they need to go 1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:43.800 onto the next stage of their career, which is all 1:20:43.840 --> 1:20:46.960 these different things that go into it and then the 1:20:47.040 --> 1:20:49.479 next moment. So that's a that's a tough weekend because 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:51.439 you know, you're trying to figure out what's going with 1:20:51.560 --> 1:20:53.760 your friends and your phone calls and everything else. But 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:56.280 then you show up the week work Monday and you 1:20:56.360 --> 1:20:58.240 look around like, okay, this is our team. Let's go 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:01.400 to work. Here come the chiefs a town on next Sunday. 1:21:04.760 --> 1:21:07.599 I don't want to sound like like having no heart 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:10.759 or no emotion, but literally I remember coming in Monday 1:21:11.640 --> 1:21:14.320 and you almost forget about everyone else that's not there. 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:18.080 It's no different, and it happens all the time. We're 1:21:18.120 --> 1:21:21.160 talking about Andrew Luck earlier. When you're hurt as a 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:23.240 hurt player, like you're not there, You're not a part. 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:25.639 It's like we're going to battle these guys. They're still 1:21:25.680 --> 1:21:27.400 going to tee it up at one o'clock on Sundays. 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:29.360 It's like, this is what we're doing. And so it's 1:21:29.400 --> 1:21:31.920 a really tough emotional weekend for a lot of guys, 1:21:32.200 --> 1:21:34.040 and I think for the whole team because you have friends, 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:37.040 but then come Monday, it's all forgotten about. And head 1:21:37.040 --> 1:21:39.559 coach Doug Morone has a little bit of a different 1:21:39.600 --> 1:21:42.320 perspective on this. He's been a bubble player when he 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:45.200 was a player in the National Football League and this 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:48.479 one kind of cuts close to home. It's a challenge 1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:49.840 of you know, how much you want to you know, 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:53.200 get ahead, you can get ready for your opening game. 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:55.640 You know, it's a challenge of making sure you do 1:21:56.040 --> 1:21:57.800 the right thing for the people that are still trying 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.040 to make the team. You know, they're obviously always a 1:22:00.280 --> 1:22:04.559 couple of spots left. Uh, but then it's tough because 1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:09.799 you know I probably can um you guys know, relate 1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:12.760 to the anxiety. You know, with a lot of the 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:15.160 players that have been giving us everything they had and 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:17.840 you know, trying to you know, make it in the NFL, 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:21.200 and um, you know, in a couple of days and 1:22:21.320 --> 1:22:24.519 everybody's life changes. So those are the things that are 1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:28.880 tough about this week, he said coach Doug Marone, and 1:22:29.040 --> 1:22:32.559 that you know, he says something similar to that every 1:22:32.680 --> 1:22:34.400 year in this week, at the start of this week 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:37.080 or around this time frame. That that's a real thing 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:38.800 for him. I mean, you know, he has to sit 1:22:38.840 --> 1:22:41.200 across the table and tell a guy that he's not 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:45.840 good enough for this football team. Well, he he wants 1:22:45.920 --> 1:22:48.800 to have a conversation with each player, and he does, 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:52.960 and he remembered as a player pretty much, he said this, 1:22:53.080 --> 1:22:55.559 at least he remembers almost every word that was told 1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:57.640 to him in that situation. So he wants that to 1:22:57.760 --> 1:23:02.320 be a um something to remember and as positive as 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:05.040 it can be in that moment, because it's not as 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:07.040 a players. As a player, if you're gonna get cut, 1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:08.840 you're like, dude, just tell me I'm cutting, then let 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:11.360 me out of here. Yeah, I'm sure that that's kind 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:13.559 of the emotion there. But as yea, I wouldn't want 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:16.800 the niceties. Yeah, I wouldn't I would like that he'll 1:23:16.800 --> 1:23:19.320 shoot you straight. I'm not saying I'm not saying nothing 1:23:19.360 --> 1:23:22.080 about what saying. I just like, just if I'm kind, 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:24.599 I'm cut unless you can help me get onto another team. Yeah, 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:29.240 I waste of my time. There's a lot of people 1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:31.519 involved in that decision making process. And I don't know 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:33.800 how the Jaguars do it because you know, every team, 1:23:34.560 --> 1:23:37.800 going back to my first year in the league, I 1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:40.360 remember we had a turk. You know, he was the 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:43.360 hatchet man, you know that that would walk around the 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:47.360 hallways or the locker room and and basically grab guys 1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:49.519 or the hotel if we were staying at a hotel, 1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:51.920 you know, knock on your door and say hey, you know, 1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:55.759 bring your playbook and come on, and you're like, nobody 1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:57.479 ever want to see it. Some people would hide from 1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:01.920 that guy. Uh, he's gonna stop him from getting cut. Yeah, 1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:04.760 exactly as some guys that did hide, they literally hid. 1:24:04.840 --> 1:24:06.640 They couldn't find it. But we gotta remember back and 1:24:06.800 --> 1:24:12.360 back then we didn't have they can't cut me. They 1:24:12.400 --> 1:24:15.479 can actually remember the rams hard knocks. Here. It was 1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:17.360 the strength coach who was the guy. He would get 1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:18.960 the text or the email and he'd have to go 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:20.840 up in the weight room. Man, I wouldn't want to 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:23.599 do I wouldn't want to do that. That's tough. It's 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:25.840 gotta be tough, right I just I mean, that's that's 1:24:25.880 --> 1:24:28.400 not that's not cool. If you if you've got that job. 1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:31.560 Sometimes like it's it can be a younger kind of 1:24:31.640 --> 1:24:35.559 intern type guy. A second, it's not that it's not cool. 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:37.960 It's just a tough who used to do it back 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:41.560 in the early days. Less who's now the g M 1:24:41.600 --> 1:24:43.479 and l A about that he used to do. He 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:45.840 used to be here. He wouldn't do it. He'd come 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:48.760 grab the guys, say come exactly. But he was the guy. 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:51.680 But he was the one who cut everybody. Sure, but 1:24:52.040 --> 1:24:56.400 Tom wouldn't the one going to the matt If I 1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:59.360 remember those two guys, grab the guys. They would come 1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:01.720 and get you and then take you down to see Tom. 1:25:02.320 --> 1:25:04.120 Or A lot of times what would happen is because 1:25:04.120 --> 1:25:08.320 it was in the weekend. You get a phone calls 1:25:08.360 --> 1:25:12.240 were the last cuts were done, you know, Saturday and Sunday. 1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:15.000 We're Friday and Saturday. After the last preseason games. It 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:17.720 was Thursday nights sometimes a Friday game back then and 1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:22.920 everyone who have off, and so we'd all be at 1:25:23.000 --> 1:25:25.479 home getting ready because we knew the season was getting 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:29.000 ready to start, and everyone else would be sitting there 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:30.680 waiting to buy the phone, hoping they weren't getting a 1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:32.360 phone call. Because if you've got a phone call, you 1:25:32.400 --> 1:25:34.439 gotta go, you gotta come in again. I remember one 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:38.639 of the worst cuts I've ever seen, timing wise, Tonty, 1:25:38.680 --> 1:25:45.240 remember this, Uh, in Denver, we were able to sign 1:25:45.439 --> 1:25:50.519 Clyde Simmons. So Clyde literally got cut from Arizona. So 1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:54.240 we're picking them up, so they're flying him into Denver. Well, 1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:58.479 we have to let somebody go because our roster is 1:25:58.640 --> 1:26:02.760 maxed out at ninety or whatever. So they literally his 1:26:02.880 --> 1:26:06.360 last preseason game, Yeah, seventy five. So they literally call 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:09.720 Corey Mayfield. They go to his hotel room, knock on 1:26:09.840 --> 1:26:14.320 his door and say, uh, get your bag packed, you're 1:26:14.320 --> 1:26:17.599 going home. So from the hotel, here's a guy that's 1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:20.599 getting ready to play a preseason game, you know, getting 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:23.280 his mind right. It's the day of the game. I 1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:25.360 think it was the day of the game, and they 1:26:25.520 --> 1:26:29.320 knock on his door, send him home on a commercial, which, 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:31.559 by the way, is the right decisions. Clyde Simmons. Clyde 1:26:31.560 --> 1:26:33.240 Simmons helped us win a lot of games. He did 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.720 whatever happened to him. The other guy, Corey Mayfield, I 1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:39.000 don't know. I don't know if he caught on anywhere 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:41.479 else or what. But he's a great guy, great guy. 1:26:41.840 --> 1:26:44.800 Always had a kind of an upbeat personality. You know, good, 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:47.160 good dude. How about that that that would be a 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.679 bad one. I think you're you're hoping to make the team. 1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:56.240 You're in the hotel, you're ready to play here. If 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:57.840 they were looking for one guy to cut to make 1:26:57.920 --> 1:27:01.400 room for for Clyde Simmons, and it's you, you weren't 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:04.560 making the team anyway, and so what it really just 1:27:04.680 --> 1:27:07.519 saved him, coy Corey might have made he because he 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:11.519 he was on our team. Like, if you're gonna have 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:14.360 a chance to make it and they're looking to cut 1:27:14.479 --> 1:27:17.760 somebody because they had to open up one spot, if 1:27:17.800 --> 1:27:22.320 you're the guy, yeah you're probably gone tomorrow. Yeah you 1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:25.360 were gone. Yeah that was but that was kind of crazy. 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:28.200 Corey Mayfield had a career in the Arena Football League 1:27:28.200 --> 1:27:33.200 after the Jaguars. In fact, yeah, he was and ninety 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:38.439 two in the offseason Buccaneers and two Jags, and he 1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:41.559 was with US one year and then Grand Rapids, Orlando, 1:27:41.760 --> 1:27:45.040 the Philadelphia Soul in the Dallas Desperadoes until like oh five, 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:50.320 like he played a long Good for him, good guy. 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:54.240 Don't miss the kickoff to college football, well, the week 1:27:54.320 --> 1:27:57.760 one kickoff to college football. 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Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, 1:32:35.680 --> 1:32:39.559 j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli as usual, Pete Briscoe out 1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:45.080 tonight in Kansas City. So Jeff Lockerman sits in. Yeah, yes, 1:32:45.600 --> 1:32:48.280 thanks for joining us tonight. I didn't have to have 1:32:48.520 --> 1:32:51.640 the different share either. Well that's good. I gave it 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:53.840 my seat for you. I'm a team player. I don't 1:32:53.840 --> 1:32:59.200 point fingers like someone else does. Wow, um, let's continue. Goodness, 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:01.479 our conver say we started the show tonight with the 1:33:01.560 --> 1:33:04.439 Andrew Luck news accord. If I would have to like 1:33:04.600 --> 1:33:07.439 point out how many times Bisselli has pointed the finger 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:12.680 on the radio airwaves, JP, Do I ever blame you 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:17.800 all the time? Literally all the time? Yes, call up 1:33:17.840 --> 1:33:20.439 Frank and all the time any times your fingers pointed 1:33:20.479 --> 1:33:29.599 at him. Never let's continue, it's always behind his back. 1:33:31.800 --> 1:33:33.160 I thought I was doing behind your back too. I 1:33:33.200 --> 1:33:37.479 can't you sit here to my face. Yes, Um Andrew 1:33:37.520 --> 1:33:39.519 luck news obviously the big news of the FC South, 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:41.719 but not the only thing going on in the division 1:33:41.800 --> 1:33:44.799 this week. Lamar Miller tores a c L in Houston. 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:48.440 He's done for the season, and then Taylor Juan officially 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:51.200 suspended the four games for the violation of the performance 1:33:51.280 --> 1:33:54.720 enhancing substance policy. He had announced it earlier himself. It 1:33:54.840 --> 1:33:57.479 became official just a few days ago in Tennessee. It 1:33:57.600 --> 1:33:59.880 was just a few of the headlines in the NFC South. Well, 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:03.840 Lamar Miller. They traded for Duke Johnson right of the 1:34:04.080 --> 1:34:06.320 Cleveland Brown, so he's gonna be able to step in 1:34:06.479 --> 1:34:08.840 right away. The interesting thing about the Colts, the last 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:11.519 time that we saw Jacoby Brissette play at an extended 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:13.960 amount of time, it was when they traded for him 1:34:14.000 --> 1:34:17.519 at the last second seen and Tony loves him, thinks 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:20.400 he's a franchise type quarterback. But now we're gonna actually 1:34:20.439 --> 1:34:23.080 get an idea whether or not he is your little 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:26.560 avert franchise quarterback. No, I did not. I said I 1:34:26.680 --> 1:34:29.160 liked Jacobe Percette. I think he was a good trade 1:34:29.240 --> 1:34:31.240 back then because they need them. I've never said he's 1:34:31.280 --> 1:34:35.599 a franchise quarterback. Ever, I said he I like him, 1:34:35.640 --> 1:34:37.360 I like the trade. I think he has a chance 1:34:37.439 --> 1:34:39.240 to be a franchise quarterback. I don't think. I never 1:34:39.280 --> 1:34:41.920 said he was a franchise quar and I stand by that. 1:34:42.040 --> 1:34:44.320 I think he has an opportunity. The guy was thrown 1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:47.120 in won four games not knowing the playbook on a 1:34:47.280 --> 1:34:50.680 bad roster that was built by our GM friend that 1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:54.519 was Grigson. That was terrible. So one of the reasons Andrew, look, 1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:56.200 I hurt so much. He got pounded all the time. 1:34:56.240 --> 1:35:00.280 They didn't build up front. Chris Ballard's a He's doing 1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:02.559 a really good, really good job. He has town around him, 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:07.120 He's a above average offensive line, better defense, got weapons, 1:35:07.680 --> 1:35:09.800 and he has now been in the system for a 1:35:09.840 --> 1:35:14.439 whole year. I think he has a chance for two 1:35:14.520 --> 1:35:16.880 years now, no one year, because Frank Wright's only been 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:19.519 there year. Well yeah, Frank's but I mean he's been 1:35:19.760 --> 1:35:24.280 as as It'll be interesting to see how he plays. 1:35:24.960 --> 1:35:26.960 I think he has opportunity. I like him, I love 1:35:27.040 --> 1:35:28.720 the trade when they did it, and I think he 1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:31.240 has a chance. How about I'm just gonna ask this 1:35:31.439 --> 1:35:35.040 off the cuff, um, your a FC South Power rankings 1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:44.640 right now, gotta change the culture now. For to me, 1:35:45.800 --> 1:35:49.559 even with even with all the things you just said 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:53.800 about it, they're still okay. You know. Uh, I would 1:35:53.840 --> 1:35:58.639 say Titans are three and football coin between the Jags 1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:02.360 and the Texans. Mm hmm. But your luck and I 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:05.720 might flip the Colts in the Titans. Tell me you're 1:36:05.760 --> 1:36:08.960 ranking again, gonna flip it. I'm gonna change it Titans 1:36:09.080 --> 1:36:11.720 for Colts three, and then flip a coin between the 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:16.840 Jags and the Texas. I'd be the same, right, that's fair. 1:36:17.000 --> 1:36:19.760 I think the losing luck change. I would have put 1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:25.120 the healthy Andrew lucky would have put them one into 1:36:25.200 --> 1:36:29.240 division pre See. Let me just ranking was just you know, 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:31.479 doesn't it doesn't matter in the grand scheme that they're 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:33.880 just curious. But that's a that's a pretty big deal. Now. 1:36:34.560 --> 1:36:36.439 And then you also factor in the loss of a 1:36:36.520 --> 1:36:40.479 running back in Houston, that's not as big a deal. No, no, no, no, 1:36:41.080 --> 1:36:44.280 there's big quarterback, but he's but he's he's a guy, 1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:45.680 right and they we're gonna have kind of a two 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:48.960 headed running It's a rushing attack behind an offensive line 1:36:49.000 --> 1:36:51.320 that's not very good. That takes pressure off of them 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:54.040 trying to protect their quarterback. That's that's kind of a 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.120 big deal. It's not like a quarterback, but it's but 1:36:56.200 --> 1:36:58.200 it's a big deal. Still the starting running back listen 1:36:58.320 --> 1:37:02.200 Lamar Lamar Miller at best was the third most important person, 1:37:02.520 --> 1:37:07.320 I mean third DeShawn the DeShawn Watson the quarterback and 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:10.720 uh Hopkins the receiver. I mean if they lost one 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:12.880 of those two, I'd be concerned clowning in in there. 1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:17.639 Yet either he's not it's a big one is not signed. 1:37:17.720 --> 1:37:21.559 So and there's been talk about maybe a trade. Could 1:37:21.640 --> 1:37:25.559 could that happen for Trent Williams, who is the unhappy 1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:28.600 Washington Redskins left tackle. Well the Skins say they're not 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:38.400 getting rid of him. They want him too. Everybody, Okay, Prices. 1:37:40.240 --> 1:37:43.280 Here's how you notice it's BS is because the rumor 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:47.120 was put out that the Patriots offered a future one 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:50.400 and that they turned it down. Well, there was later 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:53.000 that came out that wasn't true. It wasn't true from 1:37:53.000 --> 1:37:55.880 the Patriots standpoint, but the Redskins probably put it out 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:59.320 there just so that they could broadcast in an indirect 1:37:59.400 --> 1:38:04.920 way open for business. Are I don't have anything against 1:38:05.560 --> 1:38:07.479 I just think that the way they operate as a joke. 1:38:07.680 --> 1:38:09.400 Although if I have the Texans, I make the phone 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:11.280 call because I don't think they're gonna be a Clowney 1:38:11.320 --> 1:38:15.160 in They're not gonna pay him if they get Trent Williams, 1:38:15.240 --> 1:38:17.640 who's had a bunch of injuries. That the perfect thing 1:38:17.720 --> 1:38:20.280 that Dan Snyder would do, though, yeah, is to sign 1:38:20.360 --> 1:38:23.120 a guy like Clowney. What do you think you like that? Trade? 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:27.880 That a guest joining us at the studio unnamed guests? 1:38:28.640 --> 1:38:31.000 Uh in and out quickly? Do you have it? Though? 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:33.280 The AFC South just kind of some big headlines over 1:38:33.320 --> 1:38:36.680 the last two, three four. The Texans have issues, though 1:38:37.040 --> 1:38:39.439 I don't. I don't think. I don't think the texts 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:42.759 are great up front, But quarterback, if the best receiver 1:38:42.920 --> 1:38:48.120 maybe in football, defense is gonna be good. It does. 1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:50.439 If they don't I'm Clowney, it takes him a notch down. 1:38:50.720 --> 1:38:54.160 If Clowney doesn't get in there, doesn't show up. I 1:38:54.200 --> 1:38:57.639 would put Jags one because I think the defense is insane. 1:38:57.800 --> 1:39:00.519 He is so disruptive on defense. He is now that 1:39:00.600 --> 1:39:03.160 he's healthy and then ready to play, he was disruptive. 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:05.639 I mean the last two years he caused his numbers 1:39:05.680 --> 1:39:09.160 aren't great, but he just like beats up people. It's 1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:11.640 in the backfield and guys are gonna free because of them. 1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:16.720 How about you Ja rankings? Um? Yeah, Colts still one, No, 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:20.160 at the bottom. We're starting from the bottom, Colts down low. 1:39:20.960 --> 1:39:23.960 Tennessee is right there too. But the sole the thing 1:39:24.040 --> 1:39:25.439 for me is that the Jags somehow I have to 1:39:25.479 --> 1:39:27.760 figure out this Tennessee. They're gonna be You know what 1:39:27.800 --> 1:39:32.840 the word is in Tennessee that you're already locked. The 1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:35.639 word the word in Tennessee is that Mario is getting 1:39:35.640 --> 1:39:40.040 out played right right. You're watching the game. Bhy the 1:39:40.120 --> 1:39:46.920 guy that yeah, that wouldn't surprise, but the Jags still 1:39:46.960 --> 1:39:50.240 have issues with him. No, not this year. Got to 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:54.680 stop being negative is saying it's the problem right now. 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:58.280 Lock it right now. The Titans go down in the division. 1:39:58.400 --> 1:40:01.479 The Titans, we're gonna lock that both games to the Jaguars. 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:07.080 Jaguars will beat them here and in Nashville. Take you 1:40:07.120 --> 1:40:14.840 to the bank. What's the date today? Soundbiteck it? Thank 1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:17.559 you the first lock of the year. Give me Titans 1:40:17.960 --> 1:40:22.720 Colts Texans Jags four to one. Jackson the top, I 1:40:22.800 --> 1:40:25.560 got you the defense mainly. We don't know what the 1:40:25.640 --> 1:40:27.560 offense really is yet, but you have a feeling that 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:30.080 can be good if guys are healthy. You know, it 1:40:30.240 --> 1:40:33.640 was last year when guys were healthy early saw was 1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:35.519 it Sports Illustrated that have the Jackson is a five 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:38.720 win team this year? Yeah, there's people picking five six 1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:40.840 wins for the Jacks and Nick who knows had five 1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:43.240 last year? Well, last year they were all getting picked. 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:44.800 They were picking the Jackson to the super Bowl. This 1:40:44.880 --> 1:40:47.920 year there, so let's hope that. Uh yeah, but they 1:40:47.960 --> 1:40:49.920 got a Super Bowl m v P now playing quarterback. 1:40:49.960 --> 1:40:51.920 Let's hope they're wrong both times. I hope they're wrong. 1:40:52.000 --> 1:40:54.360 Last year, that's somethingy're wrong. This year we'll come back. 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:56.640 We'll go around the National Football League the rest of it. 1:40:57.000 --> 1:40:59.120 Since we've already touched the a FC sound we can 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:03.000 continue are like Tennessee Titans. You can lock some more things. 1:41:03.080 --> 1:41:05.400 The Tennessee Titans is an interesting team to me because 1:41:05.479 --> 1:41:08.320 I like Mariota. I'm just not I mean, Jeff was 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:11.000 high on him coming out. I was not. I I'm 1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:16.760 a franchise guy coming up. I don't think generational generational, 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:18.880 but I did say that I would take him over 1:41:19.000 --> 1:41:21.280 Jameis Winston. Yes, and I said I would not and 1:41:21.320 --> 1:41:27.040 I was right. Um so yes, everyone in the NFL 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:29.599 would take Jameis Winston more than Mariota. Look at their numbers. 1:41:29.640 --> 1:41:33.040 I don't know about that. The football season is I 1:41:33.120 --> 1:41:37.200 don't take to pick right now. You're the GMT. MARIOTAA. 1:41:37.600 --> 1:41:40.600 We're running the box offense. We're not. We don't need 1:41:40.640 --> 1:41:45.080 a quarterback. Football can't tell me. Jamis jamis thinking, thank 1:41:45.120 --> 1:41:48.000 you want football season heating up? Just no letter place 1:41:48.080 --> 1:41:51.519 to cool on game day to the exaltist Poka bandas 1:41:51.760 --> 1:41:54.479 t I a fake field, host up to fifty of 1:41:54.520 --> 1:41:56.840 your closest friends, family, and colleague for a one of 1:41:56.880 --> 1:41:59.280 a kind of experience for a limited time by a 1:41:59.320 --> 1:42:02.880 spokabanna for Thursday Night football against those hated Titans, and 1:42:02.960 --> 1:42:05.200 get a free cabana for the season finale against the 1:42:05.800 --> 1:42:09.519 equally hated Colts. Don't miss this amazing offer six three 1:42:09.640 --> 1:42:12.960 three two thousand column. 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Here comes in 1:44:55.520 --> 1:44:58.479 bringing it with those killer boots in that portable grill. 1:44:58.680 --> 1:45:01.439 Oh my, I think she's going for um. Mom, I 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:05.280 think the hot dogs are on fire. Hold on, honey, ladies, 1:45:05.439 --> 1:45:07.679 where did you go to get ready for the game? 1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:11.000 Sut Mark, Visit any one of our six locations in 1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:14.080 Jacksonville for all your tailgating needs. As we probably support 1:45:14.120 --> 1:45:17.840 the Jaguars this season. Stuy Mart saving is a beautiful thing. 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:38.839 Jaguar's Happy Hour, Welcome Back, j P Shadrick, Tony Baselli, 1:45:39.000 --> 1:45:42.040 Pete Prisco out tonight. Well, I guess we'll look forward 1:45:42.040 --> 1:45:43.840 to have him back next week. Of course, it depends 1:45:43.880 --> 1:45:48.000 who are Jeff Lago a filling in value. Speaking of 1:45:48.040 --> 1:45:52.439 Pete Prisco, who is interviewing arguably the best young quarterback 1:45:52.479 --> 1:45:54.840 in the NFL today, they're gonna remind us again the 1:45:54.880 --> 1:45:56.960 Jakes could have had him. Well they could have. But 1:45:57.960 --> 1:46:00.600 if you get a guy seen the highlights some of 1:46:00.640 --> 1:46:03.920 their preseason action, they have like eight guys who were 1:46:04.000 --> 1:46:06.240 in like four or three. They're just run around everywhere, 1:46:06.320 --> 1:46:10.800 right they are. They are fast about so you know 1:46:10.880 --> 1:46:12.479 all this talk about and we talked about this a 1:46:12.479 --> 1:46:14.320 couple of weeks ago when the Jags didn't play the 1:46:14.400 --> 1:46:17.080 starters the first two weeks. Well, here's what homes going 1:46:17.120 --> 1:46:20.200 out there scrambling around they play every week, by the way, 1:46:20.320 --> 1:46:22.800 diving towards the end zone. And I mean it's that 1:46:22.920 --> 1:46:26.360 was That was the dumbest, the dumbest scramble I have 1:46:26.479 --> 1:46:28.240 ever seen in the NFL. And it's a real game. 1:46:28.320 --> 1:46:29.880 He might try to die for the end zone. I 1:46:29.880 --> 1:46:31.439 think he slid at the end of the one yard 1:46:31.520 --> 1:46:33.800 line or something. But that kind of for the m 1:46:33.880 --> 1:46:35.640 v P. Man and Reid had a little talking to 1:46:35.800 --> 1:46:38.840 with him about that, But I mean that was they 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:41.559 have they have a lot of weapons and uh, but Jeff, 1:46:41.720 --> 1:46:43.599 I mean how much what do you think about that though? 1:46:43.600 --> 1:46:45.960 I mean they're literally playing those guys every week for 1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:47.880 the first three weeks. I doubt to play week four. 1:46:47.960 --> 1:46:51.200 But well, I mean is it the right answer for them? 1:46:51.280 --> 1:46:53.920 And maybe is it the right answer for this team? Maybe? 1:46:54.360 --> 1:46:56.240 You know, I thought, like I said before, I kind 1:46:56.280 --> 1:46:58.519 of sit on the fence, well on this issue where 1:46:58.560 --> 1:47:03.760 you whether you should or should not play. That's give 1:47:03.760 --> 1:47:07.519 an opinion, let's go. I mean in some in some instances, 1:47:07.560 --> 1:47:11.519 I want to see the Jaguars play. I mean this 1:47:11.640 --> 1:47:13.600 is the best. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that, but 1:47:14.040 --> 1:47:16.519 I would not play them every game. And I think 1:47:16.600 --> 1:47:18.600 that's a mistake by Andy Reid. I thought you were 1:47:18.600 --> 1:47:23.240 talking about I'm talking about I would I mean, I 1:47:23.360 --> 1:47:25.160 just I wouldn't do that. I mean, look, it's it's 1:47:25.760 --> 1:47:27.880 it's a different NFL with the amount of talent that 1:47:28.000 --> 1:47:31.920 you have and and the quality of your backups, and look, 1:47:31.960 --> 1:47:34.200 maybe they're different. They feel like they've got great backups, 1:47:34.280 --> 1:47:38.240 but most teams don't. And you're talking about the best 1:47:38.360 --> 1:47:41.200 young quarterback in football that just made a decision that 1:47:41.240 --> 1:47:45.160 could have cost him in the organization greatly if somebody 1:47:45.200 --> 1:47:47.960 were to whack them in that instant. So to me, 1:47:48.080 --> 1:47:52.800 it's all about far and I would agree, Jeff, I know, 1:47:52.920 --> 1:47:58.000 I see no reward. Um. I liked him playing like 1:47:58.000 --> 1:47:59.640 I would have played Nick Foles in that offense in 1:47:59.720 --> 1:48:02.120 Week two, So I'm fine with him playing Week two 1:48:02.160 --> 1:48:03.400 Week three. I don't think you need to play one 1:48:03.479 --> 1:48:07.720 or four. Going back to the last thing, we had 1:48:07.760 --> 1:48:10.920 the power rankings AFC South Power Rankings, our first edition 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:14.800 which we'll have on this show. Locked. What did you 1:48:14.840 --> 1:48:18.880 lock it? Undefeated? I locked? I locked. The Jags would beat, 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:21.439 would sweep the Titans. And the reason I bring this 1:48:21.560 --> 1:48:24.639 up is that in in my power rankings, the first 1:48:24.720 --> 1:48:27.160 thing I said was that, well, the JAG's gotta get 1:48:27.200 --> 1:48:30.479 past this Titans thing. Well, this Titans thing is that 1:48:30.560 --> 1:48:32.960 the Titans have won six of the last seven meetings 1:48:33.000 --> 1:48:35.280 against the Jaguars. You know what that means for this year? 1:48:36.600 --> 1:48:39.600 Not much, nothing, nothing. It means as much as you 1:48:39.680 --> 1:48:42.160 allow to meet as a team. Like, if you want 1:48:42.160 --> 1:48:44.439 to go dwell back and think back, what's happened to 1:48:44.520 --> 1:48:47.519 pass the last thing I remember Derrick Henry run a 1:48:47.600 --> 1:48:50.240 ninety nine and a half. I guess this team come 1:48:50.360 --> 1:48:54.439 Thursday night of week three for week two week is 1:48:54.479 --> 1:48:58.200 that we played three Week three after Houston Thursday night here. 1:48:59.040 --> 1:49:01.280 None of that. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what 1:49:01.400 --> 1:49:04.400 happened last year. I'm a firm believing that. I think 1:49:04.920 --> 1:49:07.040 we make too much of that streaks and all this stuff. 1:49:07.080 --> 1:49:11.080 It's nonsense. I would like if you allowed to affect, 1:49:11.120 --> 1:49:14.960 you will well whether it's affected a team or not. 1:49:15.479 --> 1:49:17.680 The reality is the numbers aren't lying. No, no, I'm 1:49:17.680 --> 1:49:19.160 not saying that, but it shouldn't. What does it have 1:49:19.280 --> 1:49:21.120 to do what happened last year or two years ago, 1:49:21.200 --> 1:49:22.760 five years ago or ten years ago. What does it 1:49:22.840 --> 1:49:25.400 have to do with this? They need to bring you 1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:27.320 in and talk to the team the night before the game. 1:49:27.400 --> 1:49:30.599 Bring me in Monday of the I have a very 1:49:30.920 --> 1:49:35.120 small number. One Lara of all time is here. I'll 1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:36.680 wave it for them because that's how much I hate 1:49:36.720 --> 1:49:39.479 the Titans. I've locked it so I need, I need 1:49:39.560 --> 1:49:44.040 to participate in this. You did lock it. I just like, 1:49:44.160 --> 1:49:46.880 what does it mean? Like for Nick Foles who was 1:49:46.920 --> 1:49:50.320 in Philly last year, what does he care the rack retired, now, 1:49:51.800 --> 1:49:56.800 didn't they? Derek Morgans still there. I'm pretty sure I 1:49:56.880 --> 1:49:59.720 think he retired. Derek Morgan retired, he's he retired to 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:02.599 I don't know. My point is it does not matter. 1:50:04.040 --> 1:50:06.559 Like Nick Foles wasn't even here. That's why they picked 1:50:06.640 --> 1:50:08.839 up Cameron Went. You know who lost to the Titans 1:50:08.960 --> 1:50:12.880 last year. The Eagles think about that for a while. 1:50:13.000 --> 1:50:14.800 So falls does know about the type? No, but it 1:50:14.880 --> 1:50:18.559 doesn't matter. Okay, Josh Allen was in Kentucky last year? 1:50:18.640 --> 1:50:22.760 Who cares? None of it matters? Well, didn't he lose 1:50:22.800 --> 1:50:28.000 a Tennessee probably? Okay, I give up. I'm trying, not 1:50:28.200 --> 1:50:32.439 working the volunteer actually bet Hi last year? Yeah, I 1:50:32.439 --> 1:50:35.000 don't think volunteers are whipping much of anybody. Right now, 1:50:35.080 --> 1:50:38.280 let's try, let's come, let's continue, Let's go around the 1:50:38.360 --> 1:50:43.200 National Football League confused, we're not taking another commercial. Um. 1:50:43.439 --> 1:50:46.880 Let's start off with Patrick Chung pleading not guilty to 1:50:47.040 --> 1:50:50.320 cocaine possession charges. The rainment scheduled for this week. Next 1:50:50.360 --> 1:50:52.680 court appearance November eight. So what was the story? Did 1:50:52.720 --> 1:50:54.600 they come into his house and found the cook like 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:56.439 he had a break in or something? I read and 1:50:56.520 --> 1:50:59.600 then the police came in or like how did they 1:50:59.680 --> 1:51:03.519 find a coke? I don't know, but but it was 1:51:03.800 --> 1:51:06.599 it happened back in like June a while back, yea 1:51:07.040 --> 1:51:08.840 or something. Look at the details. I want to know 1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:12.160 how they found it. What is and we'll get to that. Yes, 1:51:12.280 --> 1:51:14.720 but matters because that's his whole defense. He's gonna have 1:51:14.800 --> 1:51:18.080 some defense that it wasn't his couse in New Hampshire. Um, 1:51:18.400 --> 1:51:22.240 the arrayment was scheduled for this week. He waved it, uh, 1:51:22.320 --> 1:51:23.880 and we'll get the d I gotta I gotta dig 1:51:23.920 --> 1:51:26.400 to the d's a little bit more. But for the point, 1:51:26.800 --> 1:51:29.040 that's his defense. I it's not my coke. It was 1:51:29.120 --> 1:51:35.360 someone else's cocaine. So grand jury charge on June Meredith, 1:51:35.400 --> 1:51:38.479 New Hampshire, where Chung has a residence. So yeah, I 1:51:38.960 --> 1:51:42.679 thought I read somewhere. I don't want to say that's whatever. 1:51:42.880 --> 1:51:45.400 That's his defense, but it's not. It's not a good look. 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:49.320 I hope it's not. I hope it's not his not 1:51:49.520 --> 1:51:52.120 not for him just to be get all for anything 1:51:52.200 --> 1:51:56.080 like that, just for his personal well being, because if 1:51:56.120 --> 1:52:00.479 he's using coke, it ain't gonna end good. I'll tell 1:52:00.520 --> 1:52:05.519 you that Jacobe Brissette. We've mentioned the culture of the 1:52:05.560 --> 1:52:07.800 show right here, right, Um, well, he's the colt starting 1:52:07.880 --> 1:52:10.599 quarterback now, you know Andrew Luck retired. Really, I don't 1:52:10.600 --> 1:52:12.599 know if you guys heard the start of the show, 1:52:13.840 --> 1:52:18.880 but apparently Brissette does not have an official agent, so 1:52:19.120 --> 1:52:22.960 apparently agents around the league or ringing his phone off 1:52:23.000 --> 1:52:26.040 the hook. I'm sure trying to get him upboard about that, Yeah, 1:52:26.080 --> 1:52:28.479 I'm sure. In fact, though, when we were down in Miami, 1:52:28.640 --> 1:52:33.000 we saw one of the powerhouse agents in the hotel. 1:52:33.120 --> 1:52:35.640 So I'm on the sideline, which is Drew Rosenhouse and 1:52:36.280 --> 1:52:39.000 I don't know how many clients. That guy's got a lot, 1:52:39.520 --> 1:52:41.720 but he can. I don't know if there's a person 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:43.599 on the plant that does a better job of managing 1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:48.400 people than him. Scott Boris Baseball has a lot as well. 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:51.920 It probably makes more money because the baseball contract. But 1:52:52.120 --> 1:52:55.840 that's about it. I mean, I mean in the NFL world, 1:52:55.960 --> 1:52:58.479 I mean Drew A. Rose now he is the man. 1:52:58.840 --> 1:53:01.960 Is he still the guy? Oh? Yeah, I'm not. I'm 1:53:02.000 --> 1:53:04.360 not saying I don't know. Is he still the biggest agent? 1:53:05.120 --> 1:53:07.599 I would say so, is he? I have no idea, Yes, 1:53:08.040 --> 1:53:11.000 that's a question. I don't know who is, but yeah, 1:53:11.160 --> 1:53:15.960 that's pretty pretty interestingthing. Else rest easy now, guys, Antonio 1:53:16.080 --> 1:53:20.719 Brown has multiple offers of helmet money. Is the crazy 1:53:20.800 --> 1:53:23.680 thing too? Brown is going to make cash from this 1:53:23.880 --> 1:53:26.960 fiasco of the player in the NFL that will have 1:53:27.080 --> 1:53:29.920 a helmet deal. Does any other player have a helmet 1:53:29.960 --> 1:53:33.160 deal in the NFL? I don't think they do. He's 1:53:33.160 --> 1:53:35.880 gonna be doing commercials for right l or whoever whoever. 1:53:36.040 --> 1:53:38.120 I think it's shut. Isn't it shut because he wore 1:53:38.160 --> 1:53:41.800 a shut helmet before? No, nobody's saying for sure. He 1:53:41.880 --> 1:53:45.240 has multiple multiple Yeah, he might have a new he 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:50.120 h U T T right for the highest bidder. Antonio 1:53:50.240 --> 1:53:54.160 Brown can speak about helmets for you and wear one 1:53:54.200 --> 1:53:56.560 on the field. I don't know if I mean the 1:53:56.640 --> 1:53:59.240 helmet company can do it, because it's gonna be great publicity, 1:53:59.600 --> 1:54:02.880 make no mistake. But if you're if you're a company 1:54:03.040 --> 1:54:06.160 and you've seen Antonio brown behavior of the last two years, 1:54:06.200 --> 1:54:08.840 would you want him be in your spokesman? Well, here's 1:54:08.880 --> 1:54:11.960 the thing. Whoever gets him is gonna get a lot 1:54:12.000 --> 1:54:13.720 of press. And at the end of the day, what 1:54:13.800 --> 1:54:18.400 are those helmet companies want? Brand. They want their brand 1:54:18.479 --> 1:54:23.960 out there. Well with this whole idiotic craziness about a 1:54:24.040 --> 1:54:28.040 helmet and not missing, not showing up the practice and appeal, 1:54:28.240 --> 1:54:30.679 that's got to be one of the craziest stories ever 1:54:30.920 --> 1:54:32.840 in the NFL. But whoever he goes with it is 1:54:32.880 --> 1:54:34.520 gonna get a lot of press and people are gonna 1:54:34.520 --> 1:54:37.960 be talking about. Name me a story that's been crazier 1:54:38.040 --> 1:54:40.840 than that this year. No, in the history of the league, 1:54:41.000 --> 1:54:45.200 the flight game, the how much air pressures in football, Wheather, 1:54:45.320 --> 1:54:49.000 Tom Braidy. That was way weirder. That was a weird 1:54:49.040 --> 1:54:54.240 But that one went on and on. Think about a 1:54:54.320 --> 1:54:57.680 person like a personality in the NFL that's became a 1:54:57.800 --> 1:55:01.320 story like that? Is there an another one? Is? I mean? 1:55:01.400 --> 1:55:03.520 I mean, remember what Dion was playing. He was a 1:55:03.560 --> 1:55:05.560 story all the time, but not like this. I mean, 1:55:05.600 --> 1:55:09.000 this is this is craziness. I have to think back. 1:55:09.360 --> 1:55:14.480 It's it's just odd a little different. Um, the Falcons 1:55:14.520 --> 1:55:17.200 want to get Julio Jones new contract done before the season. 1:55:17.360 --> 1:55:19.520 Do you think they will? Yeah, I think it's already done. 1:55:20.720 --> 1:55:22.920 I think it's just a matter of them just breaking 1:55:22.960 --> 1:55:29.560 news are breaking. I'm not breaking dot com. Jeff is breaking. 1:55:31.440 --> 1:55:33.680 How many touchdowns does he average? Because you know you 1:55:33.880 --> 1:55:36.240 about to you talked to a lot of people in 1:55:36.400 --> 1:55:40.120 his single digits touchdowns on yearly average, he had like 1:55:40.400 --> 1:55:42.600 one or two last year to the year before, not 1:55:42.760 --> 1:55:45.280 very many. So Tony, you just keep picking them in 1:55:45.320 --> 1:55:47.760 fantasy football on game days. So I'm going with an 1:55:47.800 --> 1:55:51.760 Tonio Brown new helmet. But would you do I still 1:55:51.800 --> 1:55:56.840 consider Julio the best receiver's number one Hopkins Hopkins number one. 1:55:57.440 --> 1:56:01.280 If I'm picking a receiver for my team, it's DeAndre 1:56:01.400 --> 1:56:04.880 Hopkins is my first pick. Yep. Yeah, last year eight 1:56:04.960 --> 1:56:09.840 touchdowns for Julio three of the six eight, six, two 1:56:10.160 --> 1:56:12.640 and then twelve he had ten. That's his high watermark. 1:56:12.720 --> 1:56:14.120 That was a second year in the league. Look at 1:56:14.120 --> 1:56:20.200 DeAndre Hopkins. Would you'd probably take Hopkins over Julio. I'll 1:56:20.200 --> 1:56:23.880 take down Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Kill. I'll take in town 1:56:23.960 --> 1:56:26.960 Odell Beckham if he's my mind, I mean Odell like 1:56:27.080 --> 1:56:29.880 if he's gonna like when he's he's balling, he's bawling, 1:56:30.000 --> 1:56:38.880 He's amazing. Right, that's a handful that Green healthys Jayla 1:56:38.960 --> 1:56:42.160 Ramsey getting in his head again. Now, Julio is very good. 1:56:42.200 --> 1:56:45.680 I mean he's anywhere from three to six, seven eight. 1:56:45.720 --> 1:56:48.120 He's right there. Yeah, he's sitting there somewhere. But he's 1:56:48.160 --> 1:56:49.960 really good. He's not he's not worthy of being the 1:56:50.040 --> 1:56:53.120 top paid wide receiver in the league. In my opinion, 1:56:54.120 --> 1:56:58.880 that's that's Hopkins, That's Tyreek Hill, that's Antonio Brown without 1:56:58.960 --> 1:57:04.160 the craziness with the guy can still do things. He's 1:57:04.440 --> 1:57:08.520 an amazing athlete. Take your Alabama bias. Had had nothing 1:57:08.560 --> 1:57:10.960 to do with that. I'm just saying, like, just watching him. 1:57:10.960 --> 1:57:12.960 But if you look at and I'm gonna keep I 1:57:13.080 --> 1:57:15.880 keep on saying his name, DeAndre Hopkins. If you look 1:57:15.960 --> 1:57:18.520 what he's done with the quarterbacks he's had to play 1:57:18.600 --> 1:57:22.880 with and the numbers he puts up. Could you imagine 1:57:22.880 --> 1:57:25.200 if DeAndre Hopkins had Matt Ryan did not have a 1:57:25.320 --> 1:57:28.000 drop last year, but put him with one of these 1:57:28.000 --> 1:57:31.280 big time quarterbacks. Hopkins did not have a drop. And 1:57:31.360 --> 1:57:34.600 it's not like Hopkins with Ben Roethlisberg crazy. He's had 1:57:34.600 --> 1:57:38.560 a rotation of quarterbacks, bad offensive line, fill in the blanks, 1:57:38.680 --> 1:57:43.840 help receiver. Uh. The NFL and the NFL p A 1:57:44.080 --> 1:57:47.480 are meeting for a seventh cb A full bargaining session 1:57:47.640 --> 1:57:51.040 tonight and tomorrow in Chicago. They're saying a new deal 1:57:51.120 --> 1:57:52.840 before the start of the year is unlikely, but talks 1:57:52.880 --> 1:57:56.040 are moving in a positive direction. The CBA expires after 1:57:57.000 --> 1:58:00.840 and remember the Christian Um early while back said he 1:58:01.080 --> 1:58:03.480 would want it to have a deal done before the season. 1:58:03.560 --> 1:58:06.160 Sounds like we're getting close now, but they're still meeting 1:58:06.480 --> 1:58:10.480 and moving ahead before this season or before this season. 1:58:11.160 --> 1:58:14.800 I think the do make sure it's done because after 1:58:16.360 --> 1:58:20.520 then you're going crazy lock out and everything else. So 1:58:21.000 --> 1:58:23.080 I hope it gets done. I hope because I don't 1:58:23.080 --> 1:58:25.480 see any reason why I can't get done considering what 1:58:25.640 --> 1:58:28.360 the league went through the last time this happened. I 1:58:28.480 --> 1:58:30.520 wasn't in the league then, but just watching it from 1:58:30.520 --> 1:58:32.600 the outside, just the you don't want to be on 1:58:32.720 --> 1:58:36.080 that storyline of lockouts and this is bad for business. 1:58:36.400 --> 1:58:38.640 Every really wasn't. How bad was it? Like what happened? 1:58:40.320 --> 1:58:43.000 It's just the negative. He don't want everywhere. They came 1:58:43.040 --> 1:58:46.760 back and played football. Nothing happened. He's still the number 1:58:46.800 --> 1:58:49.320 one sport, number one American sport. I'm not saying it's 1:58:49.560 --> 1:58:50.920 I get what you're saying. You know what I mean, 1:58:51.040 --> 1:58:56.080 Like if you don't if it, if you can avoid it. Great. 1:58:56.120 --> 1:58:58.000 The only time we're to get negative you start taking 1:58:58.040 --> 1:59:01.120 games away from an impact. Then it's an impact that 1:59:01.160 --> 1:59:03.840 put the way that even it was an annoyance last 1:59:04.360 --> 1:59:08.040 or seven, eight years ago wherever he was. Um. But 1:59:08.120 --> 1:59:10.800 I think it gets done during the season or the 1:59:10.880 --> 1:59:13.040 next offseason before I think it's done for sure, before 1:59:13.080 --> 1:59:15.600 the season, it'll be done. The big question is is 1:59:15.720 --> 1:59:19.480 what do they do with preseason and are they going 1:59:19.600 --> 1:59:23.040 to from They got to addressed the preseason games. They 1:59:23.080 --> 1:59:25.520 got to agree Jeff, and then they don't need to 1:59:25.600 --> 1:59:28.400 change the regular season. Actually, I probably would mean towards 1:59:28.480 --> 1:59:31.800 Jeff and not to Alright, fellas, Tony, well done, Hey Blocks, 1:59:31.840 --> 1:59:33.640 thanks for thanks for coming in, Jeff, way to go. 1:59:34.360 --> 1:59:36.200 Let's get out of my seat. 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