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Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in tonight, lot sure. I mean, holy cow,
Speaker 1: were you guys like me over the weekend and stuff?
Speaker 1: Here's what's going on in the show tonight. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that in just a moment. Andrew Luck retiring and
Speaker 1: obviously the huge duds in the a f C South.
Speaker 1: We'll get back to Josh Allen's performance. That's been the
Speaker 1: talk of the town over the weekend. I think until
Speaker 1: the Andrew Luck stuff. Some new defensive looks for this team.
Speaker 1: Where do the Jaguars offense stand after Week three of
Speaker 1: the preseason? Some cuts coming up down the line. Doug
Speaker 1: Marone hates this week, and we'll go around the national
Speaker 1: football leagues. Well, lots stick get to tonight, A jam
Speaker 1: pack program, busy weekend, busy and then actually wasn't that
Speaker 1: busy for the Jags? And just I think the the
Speaker 1: whole I mean the whole Andrew Luck thing, I think
Speaker 1: shook the whole league. And then the controversy or the
Speaker 1: arguments about whether he's right wrong and different timing wise.
Speaker 1: And then the secondary thing, which is probably more important
Speaker 1: to this whole organization is wide open. The division become
Speaker 1: or it changes the look at the division because I
Speaker 1: thought the Colts were clearly the favorite after what they
Speaker 1: did last year and the roster, and I still think
Speaker 1: it is a very good roster. And and but with
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, I thought was the best quarterback, they were
Speaker 1: the favorite. Him gone, it changes a lot of things,
Speaker 1: a lot. It was an interesting weekend. I didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. I had a double check the tweet.
Speaker 1: Just somebody had asked me the question what I thought
Speaker 1: about Andrew Luck. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Because I was at the was the Bold Cities showcase
Speaker 1: b football games at Bowls and also somebody asking me about, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Andrew Luck. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I think he's a great quarterback. What do you what
Speaker 1: do you mean? They're like, you just announced her. There
Speaker 1: was announced was he's gonna retire like whatever, and I
Speaker 1: just completely ignored it. And then I realized that it
Speaker 1: was true, and I was shocked, shocked, but I was
Speaker 1: like at that point, I still was like, let me
Speaker 1: I just want to hear it from his mouth. And
Speaker 1: then when you saw the the video clip and the
Speaker 1: and the fans that were booing them and everything, You're like,
Speaker 1: come on on, I mean, I mean the fans, it
Speaker 1: was too much. It was disappointed that they did, but
Speaker 1: he was the franchise. He was the franchise, and it
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, and you know, your first reaction
Speaker 1: is the wrong reaction, but it's an emotional reaction because
Speaker 1: they're tied to their organization. They want to win, and
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying it's okay, but there I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they woke up the next morning, We're probably
Speaker 1: regretted a little bit, but at the time, everybody was
Speaker 1: caught up in that moment, and it's not how this
Speaker 1: was supposed to go down. What we understand. He was
Speaker 1: supposed to talk to the team and announce it the
Speaker 1: next day at like three in the afternoon, and they
Speaker 1: got leaked somehow, and that was not how it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be at all. Well, it was shocking, like
Speaker 1: Jeff said, But then if you as you look back
Speaker 1: at the timeline, what has gone on. Something is not
Speaker 1: right with his body, or how he is rehabbing it,
Speaker 1: or his body is responding, or what is going on mentally,
Speaker 1: like how he feels about the process, because I mean,
Speaker 1: he got a calf. The story was it was a
Speaker 1: caffe injury in March April when he started coming back
Speaker 1: to work out, that still got it. That then went
Speaker 1: to a high ankle sprain and m R S. And
Speaker 1: he has practiced twice since March and combining O t
Speaker 1: AS in camp. So something was off. And you know
Speaker 1: this is after coming missing seventeen because of the shoulder,
Speaker 1: So his body is not responding. And I think mentally,
Speaker 1: if you listened to what he said, he just couldn't
Speaker 1: do anymore. And it's not just a season process, it's
Speaker 1: a year round process. But here's the thing. I want
Speaker 1: to say something because a lot of guys go through that. Listen,
Speaker 1: rehabs a year round thing. Playing the NFL's a year
Speaker 1: round and so what it told me, and this is okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not being critical, it's fine, is that he fell
Speaker 1: in love out of love with football or and because
Speaker 1: the love of the game and what you do has
Speaker 1: to be high enough to deal with all the stuff
Speaker 1: that goes into being able to play. And some point
Speaker 1: it shifted where the pain in the rehab and the
Speaker 1: mental the mental anguish and all the things that go
Speaker 1: into doing your job as a professional athlete in the
Speaker 1: NFL and as a quarterback that got bigger than how
Speaker 1: he felt about the game. And I want to clarify something.
Speaker 1: Tony's not saying he doesn't love the game, but the
Speaker 1: pain and the discomfort and the bad feelings exceed the
Speaker 1: level of love that you have. He fell out, But
Speaker 1: that's falling out of love with it. It's not. That's
Speaker 1: not negative, it's not doesn't make like I heard read things.
Speaker 1: Though he's soft, he's not watch Andrew Luck play, he's
Speaker 1: anything but soft. Remember one year in my career that
Speaker 1: that I was close to where he was at. And
Speaker 1: it was the year before I came here, and I
Speaker 1: had a shoulder that I was playing with that needed reconstructing.
Speaker 1: I had torn PCL on my left knee. I never
Speaker 1: missed a game. But playing like that and living like
Speaker 1: that on a week to week basis, that's fun. No fun.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the season you have rehab
Speaker 1: and then then you're like, you start feeling better and
Speaker 1: you start feeling better about where you're gonna be at.
Speaker 1: But I mean, imagine Andrew Luck where he went through
Speaker 1: the rehab process for a couple of years with his
Speaker 1: shoulder and and now he has an issue that crops
Speaker 1: up with his with his leg and it's not getting better.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to be emotional training. And here
Speaker 1: here's the other reality. The reality is in the National
Speaker 1: Football League and today than today's game. After seven years
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, he has made generational, life
Speaker 1: changing money. That's a fact. He's made more than a
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and his seven years in the National
Speaker 1: Football and the in the clubs isn't going to take
Speaker 1: back the twenty four that they could take. So does
Speaker 1: does that factor in? Yeah, I mean it looks, but
Speaker 1: that's why. But Jeff, that's why. Money to where you
Speaker 1: can say, look, I'm done. Yeah, but here's but this
Speaker 1: is why I think he fell in love with out
Speaker 1: of love with the game. Because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that rehab year around. There's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who deal with English. There's a lot of guys in
Speaker 1: this league and make a lot of money and they
Speaker 1: continue to do it. Why Because they love the game.
Speaker 1: That's what they love. That's I mean the past. Some
Speaker 1: guys love the game, Tony. Some guys love the money
Speaker 1: and something. Some guys love everything that comes along with it.
Speaker 1: But my point is, but there's, like I got asked,
Speaker 1: is this gonna be something you're gonna see more and
Speaker 1: more of because of all the money these guys make.
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. You're gonna have it every
Speaker 1: once in a while. I mean I remember it was
Speaker 1: like four or five years ago. The linebacker for the Forts,
Speaker 1: the starter can't remember his name, and he had a
Speaker 1: couple of concussions and he retired out of the blue
Speaker 1: when he was in the midst of his career and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh my gosh, CT and concussion scares, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have all these guys he was draft like
Speaker 1: second year, everyone's gonna start retiring because of the fear.
Speaker 1: It's just me a trend. It's hasn't happened since. And
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck, and he is a guy
Speaker 1: that wanted to do other things more than play the
Speaker 1: game of football. But every guy in the NFL goes
Speaker 1: through a process of the physical toll and the mental
Speaker 1: all on their bodies. And I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 1: he was raised right and he didn't have his identity
Speaker 1: solely attached to football, and he was able to make
Speaker 1: a decision for himself. Good for him. Well, the only
Speaker 1: thing that would have been and I agree with you.
Speaker 1: And the other reason I'll say that, obviously something where
Speaker 1: the game just lost its luster is because he very
Speaker 1: easily could have gone on I R and they offered
Speaker 1: it to him, or you could have taken another eight
Speaker 1: or nine weeks, no pressure of getting back, take your time,
Speaker 1: get healthy and and come back for the end. And
Speaker 1: he didn't even want to do that. So he was
Speaker 1: done mentally, he was finished playing football and he couldn't
Speaker 1: do it anymore. And if you know that, you don't
Speaker 1: need to go out and you don't need to continue.
Speaker 1: And so that's where I actually I with Jeb. I
Speaker 1: respect the fact that he knew he was done. He
Speaker 1: couldn't do it anymore, He couldn't drive himself mentally and
Speaker 1: physically to get ready to play a game because he
Speaker 1: didn't love it enough Anymore's and that's not a criticism,
Speaker 1: that's just a fact. The only the only thing that
Speaker 1: I've heard people say the frustration isn't and it's fair
Speaker 1: enough is why did he wait till the very right
Speaker 1: before the season to do it and put the organization
Speaker 1: in the position that he did. My point that is,
Speaker 1: if you'd if you'd have done it right before training camp,
Speaker 1: what's different. They're not finding another quarterback. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: not going here here. Here's the reality. Though he probably
Speaker 1: didn't come to that conclusion until he actually made the
Speaker 1: decision and called the team right, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: looks sometimes things happen like that, you know, in an
Speaker 1: off season. I'm sure that he's like, oh, this is okay,
Speaker 1: because he actually said that the season was one of
Speaker 1: the most rewarding seasons he's ever had, so he obviously
Speaker 1: had fun the year and then to go back into that, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think he called like a dark place of
Speaker 1: that cycle. I mean it was just too much for whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, look here, here's the thing, what he has said.
Speaker 1: I take for exactly what has said. I don't read
Speaker 1: anything into it. I don't try to decipher anything out
Speaker 1: of it because I don't get the impression that what
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck tells you and what is reality are two
Speaker 1: different things. I believe that he's a totally honest guy
Speaker 1: and he's up front. Doug Maron asked about this yesterday,
Speaker 1: in fact, that his press conference at the start of
Speaker 1: the practice week and an opposing head coach in the
Speaker 1: division thinking about the other team's quarterback. I know how
Speaker 1: difficult it is, I know how difficult this game is.
Speaker 1: I don't know how great, great of a competitor is.
Speaker 1: So um, I felt it was unfortunate. You know that,
Speaker 1: you know, injuries are you know, taking part of it,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it must have been very, very difficult
Speaker 1: for him. Um, just just a loss for the game.
Speaker 1: There's Doug Marone with you know what a quote there
Speaker 1: that kind of summed it up pretty easy, I think
Speaker 1: right there, and it is. It is because he's a
Speaker 1: really good football, great football player, great quarterback. UM loved
Speaker 1: his competitive nature, everything about it about him, and he
Speaker 1: played hard. Everything you read, he was a great teammate
Speaker 1: and everything. Obviously just a smart guy. Did it right.
Speaker 1: Here's the reality. The game goes on. That's right. I
Speaker 1: mean that's not. I mean it's a shock now, but
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be thinking about it week one. Jacoby Brissette
Speaker 1: is not worried about this when he lines up. Nobody,
Speaker 1: the players and the coaches are going to be thinking
Speaker 1: about it. But but look, this is this is one
Speaker 1: of the I would say, the most notable early retirements
Speaker 1: from the NFL in NFL history. Bigger than Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: and he's right up there, Barry Sanders right up there.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, both of those guys are Hall
Speaker 1: of famers. He's not going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I still say that this is right up. I mean
Speaker 1: it's big. You're talking about a franchise quarterback ten years
Speaker 1: and his prime play for our ten years. I mean, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's as big as those guys I'm saying, But it's
Speaker 1: not everyone's it's the biggest because it's happening to us now.
Speaker 1: Ten years from now, it will still be ranked right
Speaker 1: up there when we ranked up there. But to say
Speaker 1: it's the biggest ever is who said biggest? Said the quote?
Speaker 1: You said biggest. There you go again, playing them wax
Speaker 1: out of your Earry Sanders was a big one. That's
Speaker 1: the one I remember when I was he was a
Speaker 1: big one. There's no yead as one of the biggest. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a huge, biggest, absolute franchise quarterback, one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he was healthy,
Speaker 1: top five quarterback probably and decided to hang it up.
Speaker 1: He was a big deal. And he was seven and
Speaker 1: three against the Jaguars. Here's here's the other thing that
Speaker 1: makes it big. I mean from a from a financial standpoint,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's walked away from ballpark
Speaker 1: of three hundred million. Yeah, two to three for sure.
Speaker 1: Let me think about it. I mean, guys made a
Speaker 1: hundred three million, and if he had ten more years
Speaker 1: of playing in the National Football League, his earnings would
Speaker 1: have probably been two the minimum going up minimum two
Speaker 1: other things. I mean, I mean, look, I mean that
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the reality. So I think it that
Speaker 1: that makes it pretty big huge. Yeah, we've got plenty
Speaker 1: to get too. On the program, will discuss the rest
Speaker 1: of the a f C South Division changes that changes
Speaker 1: in the division that there was some other news from
Speaker 1: some other teams. Will get to those coming up a
Speaker 1: little later. We'll get into Josh Allen's night in Miami
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. We'll come back and get into Nick
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Speaker 1: obviously there's some good, there's some bad. Um. I think
Speaker 1: the big thing is it was just good being out there. Um,
Speaker 1: it's always good. Just stepping in the huddle playing a game.
Speaker 1: Is my first time wearing you know, the Jaguars uniform
Speaker 1: in a game. Um, and that you know is emotional
Speaker 1: in itself. UM, so that was a good first step forward. Um.
Speaker 1: We're able to, you know, move the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit touchdown. Obviously we want to score more points and
Speaker 1: you know, there's things that we'll learn from. But all
Speaker 1: and all, it was great just being out there with
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City chasing Mahomes around, so he he need
Speaker 1: he needs the extra time to chase him around apparently,
Speaker 1: So that's okay. Hey, it's a big story. So hopefully
Speaker 1: Pete can get a little inside scoop that we could use.
Speaker 1: That's not his job, I don't think, right, no matter
Speaker 1: if it's his job or still steal stuff. He's a
Speaker 1: neutral guy, allegedly, right he is. Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 1: pretty neutral. Pretty coming up before we go. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you got this board here, Jeff, Yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at what about the game in Atlanta. You have a
Speaker 1: lot of names on here you don't really need. They're
Speaker 1: really a waste of time. Like you put a lot
Speaker 1: of work into this, it's a waste. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: why you have Clay's Campbell's name on the board. So
Speaker 1: for those on radio, he's gonna play that has a
Speaker 1: depth chart of defense on one team and offense and
Speaker 1: the other team Ryan, No, No, I didn't need to
Speaker 1: put it on there. Woh you know he might play
Speaker 1: you think we're see Julio, Yeah, I mean this is
Speaker 1: what a waste. This was just and just use the
Speaker 1: board was a more room, right about the guys that
Speaker 1: are gonna make the teams there on game night, I
Speaker 1: think it's I think I will say this real quick
Speaker 1: about the last preseason game. For for the guys that
Speaker 1: are playing, that's got to be a bad feeling. Don't
Speaker 1: let me forget let me say this about it. It's
Speaker 1: a bad feeling from the standpoint of if you're playing, no,
Speaker 1: you're on the bubble. You're on the bubble at best,
Speaker 1: more than likely you're not gonna make it. If you're sitting,
Speaker 1: you're on the team based then at the same token,
Speaker 1: you want to play your best because this is a watch, yeah,
Speaker 1: that somebody else might see. So it's gotta be kind
Speaker 1: of bitter sweet for the guys that are playing in
Speaker 1: this fourth preseason game. You know so, but look, God
Speaker 1: bless him. I hope that they play well. I hope
Speaker 1: they make a team somewhere. So what it's about just talking.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from some of the guys that are kind
Speaker 1: of on the bubble in the locker room yesterday. In fact,
Speaker 1: coming up a little later on the program tonight, we'll
Speaker 1: get to Josh Allen coming up a little bit later
Speaker 1: and his night with some reaction to that. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: called the postgame the overreaction hour, but it was it
Speaker 1: was a nice night for him. We'll get to that
Speaker 1: coming up. Offense. Just heard from the quarterback. What do
Speaker 1: you guys stand on on the offense now? After the
Speaker 1: four drives you saw the other night, are you more
Speaker 1: less or the same amount of comfortable with what this
Speaker 1: JAG's offense is going to be? You wanna go first?
Speaker 1: I'm not more. I'm I'm just I'm not at the
Speaker 1: same point like I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting to see as well. Yeah, I'm like that didn't do.
Speaker 1: He had two three interceptions and the play drive that
Speaker 1: was eighted by penalties, and the running game still looks
Speaker 1: not very good to me. Now. The funny thing is,
Speaker 1: you go back to seventeen Jeff and I said, this
Speaker 1: team is not gonna be able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: The run game stinks there. Their offensive lines really struggling.
Speaker 1: Because that's in seventeen. They couldn't move it an inch
Speaker 1: and they had the starters aft the whole time. And
Speaker 1: then they go to Houston and literally Pound crushed them
Speaker 1: and ended up having a very good rushing year as
Speaker 1: a team. Um. And so you never want to read
Speaker 1: too much into the preseason, so I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: But that didn't do much for me on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: And that's a that's a young, young Dolphins defense that's
Speaker 1: not viewed as one of the top it's a bad defense.
Speaker 1: So uh, and they were missing some starters on defense,
Speaker 1: so uh, it was good to see and it was
Speaker 1: good to see the starters get out there and play
Speaker 1: a little bit. And it was even better to see
Speaker 1: that nobody got hurt for the most part, so that
Speaker 1: that was a positive. Yeah, dj Um, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. I mean he's and I haven't they
Speaker 1: said anything about him, by the way, CUSSI protocol, I
Speaker 1: mean nothing about the knee, and they don't have to
Speaker 1: say anything about it. Not. The only thing they said
Speaker 1: was protocol at the game, So it wasn't had nothing
Speaker 1: because they have no I mean nothing. At this point
Speaker 1: of the preseason, you're not going to talk about injuries
Speaker 1: unless you have to, because now you're starting to get
Speaker 1: to get close to the games when they count, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna be pretty close to the vest with the
Speaker 1: information that you have. So but I mean, it didn't
Speaker 1: look like a need to me. It was just like
Speaker 1: he just his mind and his feet weren't working together,
Speaker 1: and then he got at the beginning kind and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: He just s thought, for whatever reason, looked to you guys,
Speaker 1: I thought he looked I thought he I thought he
Speaker 1: looked good once he kind of got out of that,
Speaker 1: because I think there's an adjustment period when you go
Speaker 1: into the preseason game because you're you're a practice speed
Speaker 1: and then you have to kind of relearn the tempo
Speaker 1: and the speed of a real game. And I thought
Speaker 1: that once he kind of got going to the tempo,
Speaker 1: I thought he was really good. The first couple of
Speaker 1: series wasn't so good. I'd like to see him catch
Speaker 1: that one ball that he had an opportunity in the
Speaker 1: flat and I know that you know there was a
Speaker 1: defender that was right there, but it would have been
Speaker 1: a one on one opportunity. And also look, he could
Speaker 1: have made the guy miss and maybe have gotten the
Speaker 1: first down. I don't know, but I thought he looked solid.
Speaker 1: And I thought he looked solid when he did get
Speaker 1: out there in the in the past in the flat,
Speaker 1: he made a nice contact with the guy knocked him down,
Speaker 1: got an extra five or so. Yeah. I mean that
Speaker 1: was when you could kind of tell that look, Okay,
Speaker 1: now it's game speed and he's bringing it. I thought
Speaker 1: the offensive line got better as the game progressed. Wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough, No, I don't think it was good enough.
Speaker 1: I thought that John Taylor, who had I want to say,
Speaker 1: like nineteen snaps somewhere in that range, because he was
Speaker 1: out there with the ones, he might have even had
Speaker 1: more than that. He had a little deeper what he
Speaker 1: went second, he went all the way and he had
Speaker 1: twenty thirty seven snaps. I thought he was okay, but
Speaker 1: there are some things that he needs to do with
Speaker 1: his hands to can to be better. He lets his
Speaker 1: hands get outside sometimes. And I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: I thought Cam Robinson had a solid night, but he
Speaker 1: also had this one play where I saw him extend
Speaker 1: that leg out again, which was kind of a footwork
Speaker 1: A footwork issue last year. Um, I don't know, Tony,
Speaker 1: if you saw it or not, but it was one
Speaker 1: play in particularly kind of he started to round his
Speaker 1: set instead of continued to kiss. Very good. I talked
Speaker 1: about the game really opened up quickly. We had six plays. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't how do you feel about it when you
Speaker 1: talked to him? Good? He felt good. Physically great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: physically looks good. He felt good. Physical not very good
Speaker 1: in the game. Um, I thought you wanna Taylor played
Speaker 1: great for his first game. You gotta keep it in perspective.
Speaker 1: I mean, just right, these things to work with, but
Speaker 1: as far as doing your all, as far as doing
Speaker 1: your job blocking people strong, he did a great job strong.
Speaker 1: I thought will Richardson take the two uh false steps,
Speaker 1: starts away what you can't do. I mean, obviously that's
Speaker 1: part of it. I thought he was okay. I think
Speaker 1: he's better than a j can right now. I think
Speaker 1: there's more upside. I think they're even. I think you'd
Speaker 1: go with the more upside. But it wasn't nearly as
Speaker 1: good as the previous week with with Will Richardson. That's
Speaker 1: a fact. But he's physical, he's big, he's athletic. He
Speaker 1: gets his back flat, which means he moves people. UM
Speaker 1: put him him in Jowana on the same side that
Speaker 1: two big, strong road traders. Now, so I like that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you know he's starting. But
Speaker 1: here here's I think the the tight end position concerns.
Speaker 1: And Jeff Swain was back in the practice. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen any tight ends that are gonna be on the
Speaker 1: active rock, you understand. I mean that's the problem. That's
Speaker 1: because it's not like there's no doubt. It's not like
Speaker 1: you have Tony Gonsols and Shehannon's sharp you know, off
Speaker 1: to the side. Way didn't block anybody. All he did
Speaker 1: was catch pass. Okay, you don't want either, but Gronk, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take Gronk or you don't want Oh no, I
Speaker 1: just I don't want a Hall of Famer. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want other Hall of Famer. But but I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens against
Speaker 1: Kent's City on what is that September eight at the
Speaker 1: right guard position, because you know, with a Juwan Taylor
Speaker 1: at right tackle, there's a rookie. Do you feel better
Speaker 1: about having an A j Can who has a lot
Speaker 1: of games under his belt now in his fifth season
Speaker 1: beside him, or do you go you know what, let's
Speaker 1: go with Will Richardson, who is in his first kie.
Speaker 1: You don't have any experience. Let me grow together kind
Speaker 1: of well, I mean let him grow together is one idea.
Speaker 1: Or the other thing is, hey, look we've got a rookie.
Speaker 1: Let's get some experience next to our rookie right tackle
Speaker 1: and you feel a little bit more comfortable in that
Speaker 1: safe zone with a j king. Put the best guys
Speaker 1: out there, put your best five out there. But it's
Speaker 1: a resting debate. I'm with Tony went I'm with Tony.
Speaker 1: The idea is to be at your best by the
Speaker 1: time you get in the playoffs. I mean, obviously you
Speaker 1: want to get in the playoffs, but the roof is higher,
Speaker 1: the ceiling is higher with Whereward Richardson. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: all right, but you have at the offensive. Look at
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Speaker 1: plays had a long top before and he definitely had
Speaker 1: my mind and thinking about what I need to do
Speaker 1: and how I need to do it. So um so
Speaker 1: lose to him and a mon the saline talking to
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Speaker 1: We'll find out tonight if he can throw strikes or not.
Speaker 1: He's throw on the first pitch at the Jumbo Shrimp
Speaker 1: game tonight. Awesome. They're playing the Mobile BayBears tonight. Have
Speaker 1: you done that throughout a first pitch? I did one
Speaker 1: time at the jum No, no, no not. The Jumbo
Speaker 1: Shrimp Hill was a high school game. I did the
Speaker 1: Jumbo Shrimp. I bounced it to the plate by the Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I did it at the Jumbo shrimp back then
Speaker 1: there with the suns. Now the jumper. Is that your
Speaker 1: bad shoulder? You're right arm, it's my left. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have gone. I wouldn't even showing up and uh the U.
Speaker 1: So you get there and they and JP. You know
Speaker 1: this because so they tell you you can throw like
Speaker 1: five steps in front of the mound. I can't do that,
Speaker 1: can't do that. You're there to So they said, they
Speaker 1: said here, throw up here. I said, there's not a
Speaker 1: chance you got going to the rubbers. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Strike Get out of here. Give me
Speaker 1: my word, how hard was it? I mean it was
Speaker 1: was not lollipop. It was on a line. Really, but
Speaker 1: I would say sixty maybe, I mean it was it
Speaker 1: was gonna be. It was. They'd been practicing for No,
Speaker 1: I'm throwing the baseball for years and but I mean
Speaker 1: I grew up playing baseball and pitched, and uh, junior high.
Speaker 1: My right shoulders the one I had reconstructed. There's twice
Speaker 1: even did it. I had to try try and I
Speaker 1: said I was like you. They're like, you can screwt
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I'm like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm going for the man. I would rather bounce it
Speaker 1: or roll it to the plate than they didn't screw
Speaker 1: it up and I bounced it, So I was I
Speaker 1: was quite content with it to be six six inches.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Is that what it is? I do? A strike?
Speaker 1: That was what is the first base nine? Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what you say. Me clarify this. When I say a strike,
Speaker 1: the catcher did not have to get out of his
Speaker 1: stance to catch it. That's a strike. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't like it was an actual I call that it's strike.
Speaker 1: If they swing at it, to remember that miss. There's
Speaker 1: that's one thing. Man. You don't realize this is not
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that Josh Allen tonight seven five.
Speaker 1: But Jeff sitting on that mound and throwing it thinking
Speaker 1: there's a batter. They're swinging as hard as you can.
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys, you gotta have some you actually
Speaker 1: have to do, not have to be tough, you just
Speaker 1: have to have no brain or thought that that ball
Speaker 1: can come back and hit you. Because if you're thinking
Speaker 1: about that, you can't throw, You're done. You'll have the yips.
Speaker 1: You can't throw. It's like they just have to It's
Speaker 1: an actual issue. Yeah, they just have to block that
Speaker 1: stuff out. I mean, I assume that they don't. You
Speaker 1: got through a good pitch. Is that way you don't
Speaker 1: get hit? Well, it doesn't matter major ly. Hitters are
Speaker 1: coming back at you one way, sooner later money who's
Speaker 1: been hit by a comebacker before, and that is a
Speaker 1: real mental girdle to come back from some guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: sooner or later it's coming up. It's coming right back
Speaker 1: at you. So, Josh Allen, that was the whole genesis
Speaker 1: of that conversation. Tonight throw the first pitch of the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp against the Mobile Bay Bears seven oh five,
Speaker 1: the first pitch time tonight umi the biggest overreaction in
Speaker 1: the preseason I can remember. You think he had a
Speaker 1: great first half to Okay, go over what he did.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of tackles for loss to hit
Speaker 1: the quarterback twice, two of them, what four tackles to
Speaker 1: total tackles. Um was in around almost a lot of
Speaker 1: the place most of the plays, I would say, and
Speaker 1: he was physically u uh powerful against the run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he was stout when you did. When the
Speaker 1: announcer didn't call his name, he looked good. So I
Speaker 1: thought he played very well. And I think Josh Allens
Speaker 1: gonna be a fabulous football player. I really do. I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great pick. I've said it all along.
Speaker 1: I still think he has a ways to go as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. Um, he's not as like when you
Speaker 1: and I when Unique came in here, he was more
Speaker 1: finished as a pass rusher. Would you not agree? Jeff
Speaker 1: and me? He was eight with his hand use and
Speaker 1: like from Yeah, Josh Allen is a physical I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about but I'm talking hand used and moves and
Speaker 1: everything else like that. Josh Allen needs to continue to
Speaker 1: progress there. He's me fabulous. The offensive line Dolphins is
Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL and the tackles he was
Speaker 1: playing against are atrocious. The first play that didn't even
Speaker 1: block him. Yeah, and so I'm not taking anything away
Speaker 1: from him. It was a great night, and I think
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is going to be a outstanding player, maybe
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to be rookie defensive Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: you know, based on his just pure physical ability in
Speaker 1: his in his uh, his knack to be around the ball.
Speaker 1: I want to take a big deep breath. I mean
Speaker 1: you if you listen to Twitter and some of the
Speaker 1: reactions from the local media, like let's put him in
Speaker 1: like all Pro Hall of Fame, like he's like the
Speaker 1: greatest player on defense. Is going to like all the
Speaker 1: stud like all of the sudden, it's like l T
Speaker 1: s we have LT on the field. I'm like, well, well, wait,
Speaker 1: back up his second. The kid, it's a rookie learning.
Speaker 1: Let's not set I don't want to set these unreal expectations.
Speaker 1: And he gets into the regular season and and like
Speaker 1: a lot of rookie starts a little slow. So all
Speaker 1: you're saying is, let's not give our let's not give
Speaker 1: ourselves a speeding tickets. Okay, but you're still excited about
Speaker 1: good because you were kind of starting to shave my blood. No, no,
Speaker 1: no not. I think Josh I said this from the beginning.
Speaker 1: I love the pick. I love watching practice. He's a
Speaker 1: physical specimen. If he continues to work in like he
Speaker 1: does because he listens to the veterans, he's working at
Speaker 1: his craft, and he continues to do that and gets
Speaker 1: a couple of pass rushing moves, the guys would be
Speaker 1: very very good. Yeah, he'shnula be outstanding. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's I'm not in the opinion that he needs to
Speaker 1: find pass rushing moves. I mean, I think they'll come
Speaker 1: with time, the ones that where he has a patent move,
Speaker 1: but his his pass rushes speed and also the ability
Speaker 1: to bend, spin and then work either side of the tackle.
Speaker 1: Does he have a patent and move like in gock
Speaker 1: Way right now? Now? My point is how to use
Speaker 1: the speed and then go speed to power. If he
Speaker 1: just does that, I'm not talking about he has to
Speaker 1: become like the you know, figure out how he's gonna
Speaker 1: spin like von Miller or or get that you know
Speaker 1: hump moved like Greggy White or Unique. I think he
Speaker 1: could handle all of the moves at some point. Got
Speaker 1: that kind of saying right now, learn to have a
Speaker 1: game plan, which he's progressing of going in using your
Speaker 1: speed and go speed to power. You're gonna give up
Speaker 1: most tackles in this league. Trouble. I was excited to
Speaker 1: see the very first snap where they went to a
Speaker 1: three four. That was the first play of the game right,
Speaker 1: first player of the game, first play of the game,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of it was kind of weird
Speaker 1: because they started out with leon Jacob's out there, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, they ran three four with leon Jacob's
Speaker 1: out there too, but the very first play they had
Speaker 1: leon Jacobs out there and then they run him off
Speaker 1: the field. I'm going, what are they doing? Or do
Speaker 1: they set? And then I saw Josh Allen running out there,
Speaker 1: and I was going, wait a minute, they're not subbing
Speaker 1: to Nickel, so what are they doing? And then that's
Speaker 1: why I was paying attention to the lineup, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, that's a three four, and
Speaker 1: so what they essentially do when they go to a
Speaker 1: three four number one, you're getting one of your best
Speaker 1: players on the field, which is Josh Allen, at the
Speaker 1: same time as you have another one of your best
Speaker 1: players on the field at same time, which is Yaniqueckway,
Speaker 1: and and Gockway, from what it looked like, played the
Speaker 1: sam outside linebacker and then Josh Allen played what would
Speaker 1: be the will outside linebacker on the three four. Either
Speaker 1: that or they're just playing left and right because he
Speaker 1: likes the right side better. Yeah, So I don't know
Speaker 1: because if John was on John was on the left side.
Speaker 1: I thought he was on the right now, And when
Speaker 1: he went three four, he was on the left side,
Speaker 1: which is so they're playing Sam and Will. They're not
Speaker 1: playing left and right, which in it's which they probably
Speaker 1: could play left and right if they wanted to, which
Speaker 1: would make some sense. I would the right every time
Speaker 1: because it's a better past n a better pass rush
Speaker 1: on the right side. Tony's right on that. So but
Speaker 1: it was cool. I think they had maybe four, maybe
Speaker 1: five snaps of of what I would call three four defense.
Speaker 1: If they only did it once with those guys right, No,
Speaker 1: they did it uh twice with in Gockway and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen as the outside backers, and then they did it
Speaker 1: another two times with Leon. Yeah, I knew that, So
Speaker 1: twice twice there there was four four that I counted
Speaker 1: in the game of of true what I thought were
Speaker 1: snapping against twelve or twenty one personnel. So against base
Speaker 1: package back it wasn't It wasn't a sub or anything
Speaker 1: like that. Now when they went to sub which is
Speaker 1: their nickel package, and a lot of people at at
Speaker 1: times we're thinking that it was a three four, but
Speaker 1: it's the stand up package is a spinner, you know,
Speaker 1: where he's the what I always call Lawrence Taylor made
Speaker 1: it famous back in the day when he would stand
Speaker 1: up and rush from anywhere, walk around, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of what in Gockway does sometimes. And they have you know,
Speaker 1: Klaius and Josh Allen down and then Marcel or Abrien
Speaker 1: as the nose tackle and then Yahn's walking around rushing
Speaker 1: you like I act you don't like you on at
Speaker 1: that position as much effective, and I'm I'm with you.
Speaker 1: But at the one time that they did have them,
Speaker 1: that was when Josh Allen came free underneath and got
Speaker 1: a hit on the quarterback. That's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a game. So I like it, but it's not something
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be your staple for Janick and
Speaker 1: Gockway in my opinion, in that three four and Gockway,
Speaker 1: Allan on the outside, Avery in the middle, Calais and
Speaker 1: it would have been Marcel Darius correct, but it was
Speaker 1: Taven And then in that game, that's right, that's pretty
Speaker 1: good vibe right there. Look, you're getting your best, you're
Speaker 1: getting your best players on the field. And during the
Speaker 1: game they played a lot of man coverage with that. Uh,
Speaker 1: are they gonna do other things out of that shore
Speaker 1: They can. They can do whatever they want out of
Speaker 1: that because in Gockway and and Josh Allen can drop
Speaker 1: in coverage. As you could see from watching Josh Allen
Speaker 1: make that tackle out in space on the flat throw
Speaker 1: when it was a fire zone when they were running
Speaker 1: a four three fire zone, which is one of the
Speaker 1: more impressive plays still talks about. It's like unblocked hits
Speaker 1: to the quarterback or unblocked tackle for a loss. Those
Speaker 1: are like great. I mean, every good player gets unblocked
Speaker 1: at times, and they got you gotta capitalize because not
Speaker 1: all guys can't even when they're unblocked. What was most
Speaker 1: impressive at Twitter and seventy pounds of operating in space
Speaker 1: and making the open field tackle in the athletic ability
Speaker 1: that I saw on that play that was more impressive
Speaker 1: than anything else. Let me add something that play, what
Speaker 1: I thought was as as impressive as the athletic ability.
Speaker 1: When he's lining up, he's in a two point stance
Speaker 1: and he he looks like he's coming and he also
Speaker 1: takes a peek to the outside before the snap and
Speaker 1: he's goin to get an idea of the lay of
Speaker 1: the land. That little peak allowed him to know that
Speaker 1: there was traffic coming. So when he has to drop,
Speaker 1: the back is flaring out of the backfield and then
Speaker 1: he has to get to the flat to cover them. Well,
Speaker 1: there was a wide receiver in Trey Herndon that were there,
Speaker 1: but he knew that he would have to get cleaned
Speaker 1: by them to avoid them to get to the flat
Speaker 1: to make that play. But to have the awareness of
Speaker 1: getting clean by that to get to the flat to
Speaker 1: make that tackle, which shows the athleticism I thought was
Speaker 1: was great. A yeah, because when you when you add
Speaker 1: there was a lot of In fact, early in my
Speaker 1: career there was a guy I'm not I'm not going
Speaker 1: to name his name, but he had so much athleticism
Speaker 1: and talent it was unbelievable, but he had no awareness
Speaker 1: and so pretty limited. If the guy had awareness, he
Speaker 1: i would have never gotten a starting job my rookie year.
Speaker 1: And uh, but that's good to see out of out
Speaker 1: of him, because that's typically something that a player doesn't
Speaker 1: get until a few years down the roads. Well sometimes
Speaker 1: they never get it, that's right, And I think that's
Speaker 1: that's all part of the conversation we're having about Tavin
Speaker 1: awareness Awareness awareness, right, I mean, you know, does he
Speaker 1: have it? Well, we we got to see what else
Speaker 1: on defense stood out. We're talking about Tavin that the
Speaker 1: two penalties were bad, I mean bad. I mean that's
Speaker 1: that's just being smart, and that that was not smart football.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it's a reaction to the criticism
Speaker 1: that he's been under or the pressure that he feels
Speaker 1: because you know, he had the interview last week and
Speaker 1: he was talking about how you know, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: more of the real me and all this, and well,
Speaker 1: I hope that's not more of the real hymn getting
Speaker 1: the penalties. And it's a shame tony because one of
Speaker 1: the penalties that he had had a great move, I
Speaker 1: mean power move, grabs a guard, throws, pushes him back,
Speaker 1: pulls him forward and does a pull rip swim and
Speaker 1: gets by him and then he chases down the quarterback
Speaker 1: and it hits him and it was clear it wasn't like,
Speaker 1: oh I'm not sure the ball was gone. It was
Speaker 1: right in front of him and he still that's when
Speaker 1: he took like two or three steps and he and
Speaker 1: he pushed Fitzgerald and he falls down the great Patrick
Speaker 1: independalty Fitzpatrick and in the penalty comes out. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that was not a smart play. That that can't happen.
Speaker 1: It's concern for me the depth of the defensive line
Speaker 1: and at the three technique. No, Marcel Darius has been
Speaker 1: out with an injury. Um, he I believe it. I
Speaker 1: read the report today. Didn't practice today again, So he's
Speaker 1: not gonna play this week, which is fine, you didn't
Speaker 1: expect him anyways. But if Martin cel Darius isn't ready,
Speaker 1: you're starting Tavin Bryant. And I don't know about Jeff,
Speaker 1: but there's not a lot that I've seen this camp
Speaker 1: that gives me a lot of confidence that the consistency's
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Um with him starting as your three technique,
Speaker 1: but he needs to be better. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt in easy. How do you feel, I mean, Jeff,
Speaker 1: if you're going to the season with Tavin Bryan's you're
Speaker 1: starting three on this defense, I'm not I'm not freaked out,
Speaker 1: but I'm not happy. I can tell you that because
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius is a very aware, big, strong guy, whereas
Speaker 1: Tavin's still he's still trying to learn that stuff and
Speaker 1: and to go with Tony said, hopefully this is something
Speaker 1: that he does learn. Doug Maron asked about Tavin bryan
Speaker 1: in and if he took a step back in the
Speaker 1: game on Thursday night. Here's Duge response. You just gotta fight.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, if you give up on yourself, will health
Speaker 1: How's how's anyone else going to really? Um, you know,
Speaker 1: keep you along. So you know, Tavin's you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's had a set back. Um, he's probably disappointed, you know,
Speaker 1: but hey, he's gotta you know, get his mind right
Speaker 1: and go because there was some things he was doing
Speaker 1: earlier that that we're really exciting and really would really
Speaker 1: be able to help our football team. So uh, and
Speaker 1: that's what he wants to do. So you know, strap
Speaker 1: it up and get your ass out there and go play.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really sound like it doesn't really sound like
Speaker 1: a message from the head coach. It's like overly endorsing.
Speaker 1: It's a far cry from what he said after the
Speaker 1: first preseason game. I can tell you that sure he was.
Speaker 1: He was talking ab up after that first game point,
Speaker 1: which I thought was yes, thank you, but do you
Speaker 1: have it? I just think you talk. We talked about
Speaker 1: these things and talked about awareness. We talked about me
Speaker 1: on the big plays. I mean, Tavin Bryant is a
Speaker 1: maybe the strongest guy on the team, UM, A physical, tough,
Speaker 1: all those things, but the instincts of awareness to make
Speaker 1: plays we have not seen. And you talk to people
Speaker 1: that watch him at Florida they said the same thing.
Speaker 1: That was like the knock coming out right. I mean, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you watched the tape. That was it. He was always close,
Speaker 1: always close. And so now if that's without more subdarious um,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's your starting three and your depth isn't
Speaker 1: real good there. Let's come back. We'll touch on special
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Speaker 1: that's always a challenge, you know, um anytime a guy
Speaker 1: that's basically you know, just playing special teams not getting
Speaker 1: a lot of work on offense. Uh, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a balance that has to be you know,
Speaker 1: gone over. And everybody's gotta understand how many players he
Speaker 1: can get all those type of things, and you know
Speaker 1: coach Maron does a great job of that. He he
Speaker 1: communicates with us well. And this philosophy is he if
Speaker 1: a guy is a starter and he's a good special
Speaker 1: teams player, let's put him out there. Joe Dick camillis
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, talk to him today. You'll hear the
Speaker 1: full interview coming up on the Public Stailgate Show. That's Thursday. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm good to visit with Joe, of course. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's uh, one of the one of the best special
Speaker 1: teams coaches I think in the National Football League and
Speaker 1: does a really good job and for thirty years. Well,
Speaker 1: in this game that's coming up on Thursday night, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of evaluation that's going to be going on
Speaker 1: in his department to determine whether or not guys are
Speaker 1: gonna make the team or not. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: chaos two for him. Yeah, Like those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: ninety man roster. You probably have seventy that are available
Speaker 1: for special teams. Yeah, and like, like, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have fifty three guys. They're keeping nine on
Speaker 1: press squad at least half of those who come from
Speaker 1: other teams. Let's say three or four. Let's say between
Speaker 1: practice squad and the other. Um, you're gonna have eight
Speaker 1: guys from other teams come. So that leaves you at
Speaker 1: fifty five guys out of the ninety are gonna make
Speaker 1: it that are out there right now. That's forty five
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be accountants and you know, and lawyers
Speaker 1: and other things. I mean, but my point is not
Speaker 1: in the NFL come Saturday, and those are the guys
Speaker 1: that Jody Camillis and the rest of this group has
Speaker 1: to coach up. And special teams is always the hardest
Speaker 1: because it's moving and it's a lot of rotation, and
Speaker 1: it's not uh substitution like is in a rhythm like
Speaker 1: offensive defense, because you go out there for a series
Speaker 1: and you kind of have your play. It's like sudden
Speaker 1: all right, punting, like this guy's down or this guy's out,
Speaker 1: Like who okay, who's that gunner. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of tired guys in the game on Thursday night
Speaker 1: because of the amount of guys that won't play. Leave
Speaker 1: the guys that will be playing, they've got to play
Speaker 1: on defense or all offense, and they got to play
Speaker 1: on special teams. And that was Joe point in the
Speaker 1: clip of here coming back. How do you balance playing
Speaker 1: time on offense defense with special teams time to look
Speaker 1: in the last preseason game, you're balancing it with guys
Speaker 1: that aren't gonna be on your roster, and you're just going, hey,
Speaker 1: bub you're you're playing, you know, so get ready and
Speaker 1: drink lots of water this week leading up to the game.
Speaker 1: But there's probably probably four three or four guys that
Speaker 1: are going to be playing that are that need to
Speaker 1: have good performances on on special teams and their positional
Speaker 1: group to be able to make this roster. I mean,
Speaker 1: like maybe like a guy like c J Board or
Speaker 1: Trading Pride or Robinson the Corner. I think Josh Robinson,
Speaker 1: I think he's uh. I think there you don't think
Speaker 1: he has to do anything this week. I mean he's
Speaker 1: done everything every week to me for me, I mean,
Speaker 1: so for me, I wouldn't. I would. I don't need
Speaker 1: anything to anything seen from him. And it's not like
Speaker 1: he's a He's been doing it for time and he
Speaker 1: gets it. I would probably consider sitting him just because,
Speaker 1: you know, if you didn't have depth at that corner
Speaker 1: defensive back position, I would consider playing him. But I
Speaker 1: think he got enough depth there to where if he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster, that you keep him because
Speaker 1: he's shown to me that he can play special teams,
Speaker 1: he can play safety, and he can play corner, and
Speaker 1: that versatility it has, has a lot of value when
Speaker 1: you're talking about making the decision on a guy who's
Speaker 1: gonna make a final roster spot. Much like when we
Speaker 1: were in Baltimore, who's that big fullback slash defensive tackle
Speaker 1: or one card and he was good full back? Now
Speaker 1: not recording me, I can't remember his name, but I'll
Speaker 1: find it out. But anyway, a guy like that that
Speaker 1: can play offense and defense and then play him both
Speaker 1: really pretty well and special teams lock. It's for example,
Speaker 1: if Terrell Prior could play special teams and play it
Speaker 1: well like a two twenty eight pound linebacker you might
Speaker 1: expect to play. So in other words, off Troull Prior,
Speaker 1: we could use his size or however how much he ways.
Speaker 1: He might be too forty for all I know speed.
Speaker 1: But if he could play good special teams, Troull Prior
Speaker 1: would play as long as he wanted to in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. But he doesn't play special teams. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna make it? No? Is? What's the latest with
Speaker 1: his injury? He had the hammy coming out of the game.
Speaker 1: It's right. Did he practice today? No? No, I don't
Speaker 1: think he did. I don't know if he was out today.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they injured. That's probably where
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up. Because here's the thing. How much
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Speaker 1: teams on the division. The last a week or so,
Speaker 1: it's been a busy week in the a f C South.
Speaker 1: Let's continue our offensive line conversation. We touched on this
Speaker 1: group earlier and kind of talked about the game and
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson snaps in the battle at right garden. All
Speaker 1: let's I want to say one more thing about Camer Robinson. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's a still a young player who really has played
Speaker 1: one year. Right in the game and a half, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not half a game. It was the first quarter he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Um, how do you feel about him coming
Speaker 1: back and you know, starting sixteen games off the a
Speaker 1: c L after having six plays in the preseason. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not very comfortable with it. I was thinking the
Speaker 1: same thing now, I think camp My position of Cam's
Speaker 1: ever changed. I think he's immensely talented. I love his nastiness,
Speaker 1: he's physical, he's tough. I just think his footwork has
Speaker 1: been just really average at best and what gets him
Speaker 1: in trouble And Um, I'm not gonna make any judgments
Speaker 1: from the six plays we saw, but it wasn't good.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, I mean, coming back from a c L,
Speaker 1: just just beat out there. Yeah, just yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be critical. Really he's working hard,
Speaker 1: but that has to get better, and his conditioning is
Speaker 1: not going to be where it needs to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I've I've done it playing
Speaker 1: temporary teen plays in the preseason coming off in a
Speaker 1: c L and I was seven and a half months
Speaker 1: and his is gonna be almost eleven um. But you're
Speaker 1: the for that first few you're like that first game
Speaker 1: sucking wind. I mean it's I mean, by the way,
Speaker 1: you're playing against a pretty damn good player in Frank Clark.
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. Yeah, and so I'm I'm a little
Speaker 1: worried about that. H I think that's interesting. I think
Speaker 1: now let me I'll talk about this, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about this to falling week JP with Pete and Jeff
Speaker 1: and I will talk about on Thursday Night show. Leading
Speaker 1: up to the game. I think if you're John D. Philippo,
Speaker 1: you have the game plan for that. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a game plan and then and you better hope you
Speaker 1: got your rookie, right, a rookie on the other side. Okay,
Speaker 1: right now, who are you more confident in? BA? I'm
Speaker 1: more confident in Juan Taylor's past protection. My point is
Speaker 1: you have to pick one. You have to get like,
Speaker 1: if you want to actually sing guys out in the
Speaker 1: past route, you gotta pick one. Now. The one good
Speaker 1: thing is if you watch Philly in the past, and
Speaker 1: you watch a lot of teams, and we didn't do
Speaker 1: it for very much in the past. We did at times.
Speaker 1: I think John d Footballill do a good job of
Speaker 1: chipping on the way out with tight ends, formationing the
Speaker 1: defense to help his tackles if they're struggling. And you
Speaker 1: can do that on both sides, but as far as
Speaker 1: like really helping and really game planning, you'd like don't
Speaker 1: have to do it on one side of the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think you have to choose Cam Robinson early, just
Speaker 1: because he's coming off as a c L and as
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this first quarter of the season,
Speaker 1: you know, we break it down the quarters at first
Speaker 1: four games. Cam Robinson's gonna be work in progress, and
Speaker 1: I just want to set expectations if everyone listening, and
Speaker 1: that's normal he's a young player. Not being critical, he's
Speaker 1: a young player. Come up with a c L who
Speaker 1: hasn't a lot of reps with with that work in progress.
Speaker 1: We were just talking during a break about making the
Speaker 1: cuts on this offensive line. Let's assume that we have
Speaker 1: eight spots open. Okay, eight spots maybe nine, eight for sure.
Speaker 1: And here and here's why I say, Hey, don't you
Speaker 1: want to keep one extra guy, maybe a tackle to
Speaker 1: help out if you need help with that tackle position. Well,
Speaker 1: depending on the depth, sometimes you'll keep nine. Absolutely. But
Speaker 1: here's here's why I say that is because the way
Speaker 1: he had a hamstring just today. Okay, um, do you
Speaker 1: expect him back? Yes? Maybe, Um, but you would like
Speaker 1: to have since Will Richardson is really no longer a
Speaker 1: tackle now he's competing that guard, do you now want
Speaker 1: to have a backup tackle? So, and I know that
Speaker 1: Josh Wells, we haven't seen him get a lot of
Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason. Leonard Wester has not been great
Speaker 1: in the preseason. Been Elana was brought in Layton camp,
Speaker 1: but Wester is clearly the number is clearly guy the
Speaker 1: second tackle. Let me ask you this, Tony, I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you what by the depth charts and playing time.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it would you would you would
Speaker 1: he be a part of you would not listen? We
Speaker 1: can all agree on these ones right here, which is
Speaker 1: our starters. Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lender, A J
Speaker 1: Can and Will Richardson will put both of them in there.
Speaker 1: So that's five cedrical boy he is six and Juwan
Speaker 1: Taylor you're starting right tackle is seven? Seven? Uh one Shatle.
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Shatley, I thought was gonna be on
Speaker 1: his way out, but I think you're going anywhere. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think he's back. You can snap, you
Speaker 1: can play guards. I've got eight right there. Well. The
Speaker 1: reason why I say Shatley I think is a lock
Speaker 1: is number one. Uh. Brandon Lender has not been able
Speaker 1: to play sixteen games and in quite some time. So
Speaker 1: I'd like to have a guy that can start at center.
Speaker 1: He's ever done it? Maybe not, but you want to
Speaker 1: have a guy that can start at center weekend a
Speaker 1: week out, and Tyler Shatley has proven that he can
Speaker 1: do that. A J. Cann is taken snap apps, I
Speaker 1: would feel more comfortable with a J. Cannon the role
Speaker 1: if he's not starting, He's gonna be a swing guy
Speaker 1: for games. What about McDermott, good question. He's played well
Speaker 1: in the preseason, hasn't practiced great, good question, And hasn't
Speaker 1: played much in the preseason. But when he has, he's
Speaker 1: done pretty good out there. Yeah, he's done pretty good job.
Speaker 1: But would wouldn't you want to have another tackle of
Speaker 1: because then Brandon Thomas has been talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about by the coaching staff. They kind of like him.
Speaker 1: Darnal Green for a while was hot and he's probably
Speaker 1: a practice a practice squad guy, anybody as far as
Speaker 1: the active roster, Yeah, no, Donnelle Green is not going
Speaker 1: to make the active roster. He's he's a practice squad guy.
Speaker 1: He was a tackle at Minnesota and now they've moved
Speaker 1: him into guard. He is a practice squad type of guy.
Speaker 1: We ask you this, if you know, if there's the
Speaker 1: concern about Cam that you just talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: he's hurt in a Blaze's banged up week one. Still,
Speaker 1: that's my point. Do you keep nine now going into
Speaker 1: the season, Wells as an extra guy or West or
Speaker 1: whoever they like, somebody might keep both. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you just because bodies we got eight. If you had,
Speaker 1: if you could keep nine, Tony bull Sell, who would
Speaker 1: you want to have? Is your nine? And we're assuming
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lendner, Tyler Shatley, A J. Camwell, Richardson,
Speaker 1: Cedricoboyhey and Joan Taylor? Are your eight? All right? If
Speaker 1: you're asking me, because I'm saying, who can if I
Speaker 1: have to get someone to go play left tackle for
Speaker 1: one game to get me, you're saying is if you
Speaker 1: had nine roster I'm thinking about it, then I would
Speaker 1: right now. And I know this is not the view
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff. And I only know this because
Speaker 1: based on playing time is I would pick Welles before
Speaker 1: I put Wester. So would I. But if you look
Speaker 1: at what the uh George Warhop, the offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: and Doug Morone and how they've structured the playing time
Speaker 1: in the preseason, Western is clearly ahead of Josh Wales.
Speaker 1: I don't see it now. I don't watch every practice.
Speaker 1: I'm not in the meetings. I don't know just from
Speaker 1: the games, just from the game stuff it I'm watching
Speaker 1: and practice the practices I've seen, I think Wells I'd
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable with Wells because the athletic ability Western
Speaker 1: is more powerful, no doubt about it. But movement he
Speaker 1: struggles with. And he guys get on the edge really fast.
Speaker 1: We saw it on the interception play at the holding
Speaker 1: to save Nick Foles. He almost died Nick well Yeah,
Speaker 1: West was the greatest penalty I've ever seen anyone commit
Speaker 1: because Nick Foles was about to get hammered. And so
Speaker 1: I would feel better about Wells because I think you
Speaker 1: have an issue right now at left tackle. Juwan Taylor
Speaker 1: is not a left tackle, never played it. He's the
Speaker 1: right tackle. I think he played a little bit of
Speaker 1: it in Florida, is early, in his very early. I
Speaker 1: know he's the right tackle I'm saying I don't. I
Speaker 1: think it's just like spot duty, um, where he is hurt.
Speaker 1: Way he struggled. I mean both tackles, especially at left tackle.
Speaker 1: We saw struggle against the Eagles. How bad is the hamstring?
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't even know how bad practice
Speaker 1: And say, um, will Richardson is a right tackle. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But if he had to play tackle, he
Speaker 1: could play right tackle for you, because that was the
Speaker 1: idea when it came in. But he's gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm as I'm thinking through these scenarios and like, who's
Speaker 1: gonna play left tackle on the roster? Well ways hurt
Speaker 1: Jewan Taylor is not he's your right tackle. Will Richardson
Speaker 1: is a right tackle. I don't think he's ever even
Speaker 1: played left tackle and he's probably starting right guard. Left.
Speaker 1: Who's left it? You got? You got the choice of
Speaker 1: really three guys wester Well wester Wells or Alana and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the left or if if there's a
Speaker 1: guy on waiver wires there's not left left tackle, let
Speaker 1: me say this, left tackles, don't put it this. You
Speaker 1: know you're picking up a Lana or wester if you
Speaker 1: were to keep Wells if you're another team, probably not
Speaker 1: not unless it was dire straits, yeah, dire straits or
Speaker 1: desperate Yeah, I think it's a call for desperate measures,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's right, Logs. We'll get your mic
Speaker 1: back on in just a moment here. These are perfect,
Speaker 1: just got better here, but that it's it's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: Really can go down to the wire here an opening day.
Speaker 1: It's a concern and who's up and down and healthy
Speaker 1: and not It is a real concert. The left tackle
Speaker 1: position has been a concern of mine all camp. It
Speaker 1: continues to be a concern. And I'm not and if
Speaker 1: Cam Robinsons listen to this, this this has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with whether I think Cam Robinson is a good player
Speaker 1: or not. He's a young player. Come off in a
Speaker 1: c L in the first in the first few games,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be it. It's gonna be a bat. He's
Speaker 1: af the battle and it's not gonna be easy, and
Speaker 1: he knows it. And that's okay. He's a competitor. But
Speaker 1: right now, you don't have an answer if something were
Speaker 1: to happen to Cam Robinson and answer that, you're really
Speaker 1: unless unless he's healthy, then he's the guy. Then he's
Speaker 1: the guy, and you can and you can listen away.
Speaker 1: As far as backup tackles, that's a good he's a
Speaker 1: good solution in this league is having a guy like
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: want them to start. I came to start, but um,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to watch and and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: all week leading up to the Kansas City game. But
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's something that John d Felippo
Speaker 1: is gonna have to and that offensive staff is gonna
Speaker 1: have the game playing for Frank Frank Clark coming to town.
Speaker 1: Jeff Logan was back with us, no welcome back anywhere.
Speaker 1: How did it become my issue because he's always passing
Speaker 1: the buck. I have nothing you blame that you are,
Speaker 1: that you are the biggest finger pointer, Like what a
Speaker 1: bad teammate. I mean just points of thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you doing on the other shows, Jeff, but
Speaker 1: on this show, we don't point the finger. I take
Speaker 1: a yell at show responsibility for our action. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. Wow, that's a fact. It's not a fact.
Speaker 1: I did nothing. This chord right here, Okay, see that
Speaker 1: one right there. Yeah, that'll see your big foot right there.
Speaker 1: That chord is attached to this right here, and you're
Speaker 1: pulling it away. I'm not pulling anything away, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. We're back in a moment trying to figure this.
Speaker 1: I thought it was bad Pete. I thought it was
Speaker 1: bad with Pete on this show, Jeff is so much worse.
Speaker 1: We were on a good run. Bad teammate, point the finger.
Speaker 1: You know what you do when you Mike goes out
Speaker 1: just suck it up and figure it out. See everyone
Speaker 1: sees it wright till the break you'll point another finger
Speaker 1: at him, probably to back. In a moment, we'll delve
Speaker 1: into Doug Marone's thoughts about this week, in particular, he
Speaker 1: hates it spoil the teas we'll hear from the head
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Speaker 1: t I A bank Field Elien who interesting thoughts going
Speaker 1: around the locker room yesterday and kind of got some
Speaker 1: different perspectives on what this week holds. And Elie's one
Speaker 1: of him. He's been around here now for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. Um. Another one was McBride, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: who's kind of on the bubble, but he's a fourth
Speaker 1: year player. He's been around the league and he kind
Speaker 1: of understands what this week is about. And if you
Speaker 1: if you play against they get it again what this
Speaker 1: week is about, and how to handle the rookies o JP.
Speaker 1: They don't know what it's about. No, they don't know
Speaker 1: what it's a weird feeling in the in the just
Speaker 1: walking around the locker room again today. Just it's because
Speaker 1: next week after, I mean, what thirty the guys are gone.
Speaker 1: It was always amazing to me when when we would
Speaker 1: have roster cuts, it was it was more of a
Speaker 1: step system than what it is today, because you went
Speaker 1: we went from ninety to seventy five and then down
Speaker 1: to fifty three and then they made it now just
Speaker 1: one cut so that they would have more players available
Speaker 1: to play in the last preseason game. It was only
Speaker 1: a few years ago they changed that, and uh, I
Speaker 1: just remember when we went from seventy five down to
Speaker 1: fifty three. I mean it was it was a big change.
Speaker 1: And uh when you came back in the locker room
Speaker 1: and you're like, is this all that's on our team now?
Speaker 1: You know, because the numbers all of a sudden shrinks
Speaker 1: so dramatically, and you and it. It is kind of hard.
Speaker 1: The first couple of days is kind of hard, but
Speaker 1: you really don't want to waste much time thinking about
Speaker 1: it because look, you gotta you got a game that
Speaker 1: counts coming up in a week. So so it's a
Speaker 1: lot different. But you know, a guy like Eli Elienko,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's rightfully taking the right approach because as
Speaker 1: he's a bubble guy, and he's a guy that you
Speaker 1: now have a draft pick that was drafted in Dontevious
Speaker 1: Russell from Auburn in the seventh round and has been
Speaker 1: a guy that's shown mobility, he shows that he's got
Speaker 1: some pass for us, he's got sized like Elienko, And
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a tough decision between one of
Speaker 1: those two guys and Tony. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: one or the other, and I think it's gonna be Russell.
Speaker 1: Russell is more athletic, moves better. Elian, who's really a
Speaker 1: two gap type of player, Um would be great in
Speaker 1: the three or four as a nose good football player.
Speaker 1: Taking nothing away from him, but I just think the
Speaker 1: athletic ability of Russell is probably gonna give him a
Speaker 1: little bit of the edge, you know. It did to
Speaker 1: pick up on Jeff was saying about cut day, and
Speaker 1: Jeff and I are always in a different situation, I mean,
Speaker 1: being high draft picks and then you know, you don't
Speaker 1: worry about that kind of stuff. But what I found
Speaker 1: interesting is it affects everybody because your friends, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it it really the big impact is the closer
Speaker 1: you like your position group, because that's who you're really
Speaker 1: close to camp. I mean, not that you're close to
Speaker 1: other guys. When you're friends with the defensive lineman, you hang,
Speaker 1: I mean, you eat together maybe, and you have your
Speaker 1: group of you know, the click whatever. There's clicks within
Speaker 1: every organization and everything else, but you really become close
Speaker 1: with the guys that you're in the meetings with all
Speaker 1: the time, especially in the old days when you're practicing
Speaker 1: twice a day and you're at meeting still ten ten
Speaker 1: thirty at night, and so you spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time during camp and then all of a sudden, these
Speaker 1: are guys that get cut and they're your friends. And
Speaker 1: that's the difficult part because you know it greatly impacts
Speaker 1: their lives. Some of them have families and wives and
Speaker 1: they're you know, trying to figure out, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get on somewhere else, or they need to go
Speaker 1: onto the next stage of their career, which is all
Speaker 1: these different things that go into it and then the
Speaker 1: next moment. So that's a that's a tough weekend because
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to figure out what's going with
Speaker 1: your friends and your phone calls and everything else. But
Speaker 1: then you show up the week work Monday and you
Speaker 1: look around like, okay, this is our team. Let's go
Speaker 1: to work. Here come the chiefs a town on next Sunday.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like like having no heart
Speaker 1: or no emotion, but literally I remember coming in Monday
Speaker 1: and you almost forget about everyone else that's not there.
Speaker 1: It's no different, and it happens all the time. We're
Speaker 1: talking about Andrew Luck earlier. When you're hurt as a
Speaker 1: hurt player, like you're not there, You're not a part.
Speaker 1: It's like we're going to battle these guys. They're still
Speaker 1: going to tee it up at one o'clock on Sundays.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is what we're doing. And so it's
Speaker 1: a really tough emotional weekend for a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: and I think for the whole team because you have friends,
Speaker 1: but then come Monday, it's all forgotten about. And head
Speaker 1: coach Doug Morone has a little bit of a different
Speaker 1: perspective on this. He's been a bubble player when he
Speaker 1: was a player in the National Football League and this
Speaker 1: one kind of cuts close to home. It's a challenge
Speaker 1: of you know, how much you want to you know,
Speaker 1: get ahead, you can get ready for your opening game.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a challenge of making sure you do
Speaker 1: the right thing for the people that are still trying
Speaker 1: to make the team. You know, they're obviously always a
Speaker 1: couple of spots left. Uh, but then it's tough because
Speaker 1: you know I probably can um you guys know, relate
Speaker 1: to the anxiety. You know, with a lot of the
Speaker 1: players that have been giving us everything they had and
Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, make it in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, in a couple of days and
Speaker 1: everybody's life changes. So those are the things that are
Speaker 1: tough about this week, he said coach Doug Marone, and
Speaker 1: that you know, he says something similar to that every
Speaker 1: year in this week, at the start of this week
Speaker 1: or around this time frame. That that's a real thing
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, you know, he has to sit
Speaker 1: across the table and tell a guy that he's not
Speaker 1: good enough for this football team. Well, he he wants
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with each player, and he does,
Speaker 1: and he remembered as a player pretty much, he said this,
Speaker 1: at least he remembers almost every word that was told
Speaker 1: to him in that situation. So he wants that to
Speaker 1: be a um something to remember and as positive as
Speaker 1: it can be in that moment, because it's not as
Speaker 1: a players. As a player, if you're gonna get cut,
Speaker 1: you're like, dude, just tell me I'm cutting, then let
Speaker 1: me out of here. Yeah, I'm sure that that's kind
Speaker 1: of the emotion there. But as yea, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: the niceties. Yeah, I wouldn't I would like that he'll
Speaker 1: shoot you straight. I'm not saying I'm not saying nothing
Speaker 1: about what saying. I just like, just if I'm kind,
Speaker 1: I'm cut unless you can help me get onto another team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I waste of my time. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: involved in that decision making process. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how the Jaguars do it because you know, every team,
Speaker 1: going back to my first year in the league, I
Speaker 1: remember we had a turk. You know, he was the
Speaker 1: hatchet man, you know that that would walk around the
Speaker 1: hallways or the locker room and and basically grab guys
Speaker 1: or the hotel if we were staying at a hotel,
Speaker 1: you know, knock on your door and say hey, you know,
Speaker 1: bring your playbook and come on, and you're like, nobody
Speaker 1: ever want to see it. Some people would hide from
Speaker 1: that guy. Uh, he's gonna stop him from getting cut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly as some guys that did hide, they literally hid.
Speaker 1: They couldn't find it. But we gotta remember back and
Speaker 1: back then we didn't have they can't cut me. They
Speaker 1: can actually remember the rams hard knocks. Here. It was
Speaker 1: the strength coach who was the guy. He would get
Speaker 1: the text or the email and he'd have to go
Speaker 1: up in the weight room. Man, I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: do I wouldn't want to do that. That's tough. It's
Speaker 1: gotta be tough, right I just I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: not that's not cool. If you if you've got that job.
Speaker 1: Sometimes like it's it can be a younger kind of
Speaker 1: intern type guy. A second, it's not that it's not cool.
Speaker 1: It's just a tough who used to do it back
Speaker 1: in the early days. Less who's now the g M
Speaker 1: and l A about that he used to do. He
Speaker 1: used to be here. He wouldn't do it. He'd come
Speaker 1: grab the guys, say come exactly. But he was the guy.
Speaker 1: But he was the one who cut everybody. Sure, but
Speaker 1: Tom wouldn't the one going to the matt If I
Speaker 1: remember those two guys, grab the guys. They would come
Speaker 1: and get you and then take you down to see Tom.
Speaker 1: Or A lot of times what would happen is because
Speaker 1: it was in the weekend. You get a phone calls
Speaker 1: were the last cuts were done, you know, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1: We're Friday and Saturday. After the last preseason games. It
Speaker 1: was Thursday nights sometimes a Friday game back then and
Speaker 1: everyone who have off, and so we'd all be at
Speaker 1: home getting ready because we knew the season was getting
Speaker 1: ready to start, and everyone else would be sitting there
Speaker 1: waiting to buy the phone, hoping they weren't getting a
Speaker 1: phone call. Because if you've got a phone call, you
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta come in again. I remember one
Speaker 1: of the worst cuts I've ever seen, timing wise, Tonty,
Speaker 1: remember this, Uh, in Denver, we were able to sign
Speaker 1: Clyde Simmons. So Clyde literally got cut from Arizona. So
Speaker 1: we're picking them up, so they're flying him into Denver. Well,
Speaker 1: we have to let somebody go because our roster is
Speaker 1: maxed out at ninety or whatever. So they literally his
Speaker 1: last preseason game, Yeah, seventy five. So they literally call
Speaker 1: Corey Mayfield. They go to his hotel room, knock on
Speaker 1: his door and say, uh, get your bag packed, you're
Speaker 1: going home. So from the hotel, here's a guy that's
Speaker 1: getting ready to play a preseason game, you know, getting
Speaker 1: his mind right. It's the day of the game. I
Speaker 1: think it was the day of the game, and they
Speaker 1: knock on his door, send him home on a commercial, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the right decisions. Clyde Simmons. Clyde
Speaker 1: Simmons helped us win a lot of games. He did
Speaker 1: whatever happened to him. The other guy, Corey Mayfield, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if he caught on anywhere
Speaker 1: else or what. But he's a great guy, great guy.
Speaker 1: Always had a kind of an upbeat personality. You know, good,
Speaker 1: good dude. How about that that that would be a
Speaker 1: bad one. I think you're you're hoping to make the team.
Speaker 1: You're in the hotel, you're ready to play here. If
Speaker 1: they were looking for one guy to cut to make
Speaker 1: room for for Clyde Simmons, and it's you, you weren't
Speaker 1: making the team anyway, and so what it really just
Speaker 1: saved him, coy Corey might have made he because he
Speaker 1: he was on our team. Like, if you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a chance to make it and they're looking to cut
Speaker 1: somebody because they had to open up one spot, if
Speaker 1: you're the guy, yeah you're probably gone tomorrow. Yeah you
Speaker 1: were gone. Yeah that was but that was kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: Corey Mayfield had a career in the Arena Football League
Speaker 1: after the Jaguars. In fact, yeah, he was and ninety
Speaker 1: two in the offseason Buccaneers and two Jags, and he
Speaker 1: was with US one year and then Grand Rapids, Orlando,
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Soul in the Dallas Desperadoes until like oh five,
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Speaker 1: in the locker room this week, discussing Andrew Luck and
Speaker 1: the retirement of the Colts quarterback. Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli as usual, Pete Briscoe out
Speaker 1: tonight in Kansas City. So Jeff Lockerman sits in. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us tonight. I didn't have to have
Speaker 1: the different share either. Well that's good. I gave it
Speaker 1: my seat for you. I'm a team player. I don't
Speaker 1: point fingers like someone else does. Wow, um, let's continue. Goodness,
Speaker 1: our conver say we started the show tonight with the
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck news accord. If I would have to like
Speaker 1: point out how many times Bisselli has pointed the finger
Speaker 1: on the radio airwaves, JP, Do I ever blame you
Speaker 1: all the time? Literally all the time? Yes, call up
Speaker 1: Frank and all the time any times your fingers pointed
Speaker 1: at him. Never let's continue, it's always behind his back.
Speaker 1: I thought I was doing behind your back too. I
Speaker 1: can't you sit here to my face. Yes, Um Andrew
Speaker 1: luck news obviously the big news of the FC South,
Speaker 1: but not the only thing going on in the division
Speaker 1: this week. Lamar Miller tores a c L in Houston.
Speaker 1: He's done for the season, and then Taylor Juan officially
Speaker 1: suspended the four games for the violation of the performance
Speaker 1: enhancing substance policy. He had announced it earlier himself. It
Speaker 1: became official just a few days ago in Tennessee. It
Speaker 1: was just a few of the headlines in the NFC South. Well,
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. They traded for Duke Johnson right of the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown, so he's gonna be able to step in
Speaker 1: right away. The interesting thing about the Colts, the last
Speaker 1: time that we saw Jacoby Brissette play at an extended
Speaker 1: amount of time, it was when they traded for him
Speaker 1: at the last second seen and Tony loves him, thinks
Speaker 1: he's a franchise type quarterback. But now we're gonna actually
Speaker 1: get an idea whether or not he is your little
Speaker 1: avert franchise quarterback. No, I did not. I said I
Speaker 1: liked Jacobe Percette. I think he was a good trade
Speaker 1: back then because they need them. I've never said he's
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Ever, I said he I like him,
Speaker 1: I like the trade. I think he has a chance
Speaker 1: to be a franchise quarterback. I don't think. I never
Speaker 1: said he was a franchise quar and I stand by that.
Speaker 1: I think he has an opportunity. The guy was thrown
Speaker 1: in won four games not knowing the playbook on a
Speaker 1: bad roster that was built by our GM friend that
Speaker 1: was Grigson. That was terrible. So one of the reasons Andrew, look,
Speaker 1: I hurt so much. He got pounded all the time.
Speaker 1: They didn't build up front. Chris Ballard's a He's doing
Speaker 1: a really good, really good job. He has town around him,
Speaker 1: He's a above average offensive line, better defense, got weapons,
Speaker 1: and he has now been in the system for a
Speaker 1: whole year. I think he has a chance for two
Speaker 1: years now, no one year, because Frank Wright's only been
Speaker 1: there year. Well yeah, Frank's but I mean he's been
Speaker 1: as as It'll be interesting to see how he plays.
Speaker 1: I think he has opportunity. I like him, I love
Speaker 1: the trade when they did it, and I think he
Speaker 1: has a chance. How about I'm just gonna ask this
Speaker 1: off the cuff, um, your a FC South Power rankings
Speaker 1: right now, gotta change the culture now. For to me,
Speaker 1: even with even with all the things you just said
Speaker 1: about it, they're still okay. You know. Uh, I would
Speaker 1: say Titans are three and football coin between the Jags
Speaker 1: and the Texans. Mm hmm. But your luck and I
Speaker 1: might flip the Colts in the Titans. Tell me you're
Speaker 1: ranking again, gonna flip it. I'm gonna change it Titans
Speaker 1: for Colts three, and then flip a coin between the
Speaker 1: Jags and the Texas. I'd be the same, right, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I think the losing luck change. I would have put
Speaker 1: the healthy Andrew lucky would have put them one into
Speaker 1: division pre See. Let me just ranking was just you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't matter in the grand scheme that they're
Speaker 1: just curious. But that's a that's a pretty big deal. Now.
Speaker 1: And then you also factor in the loss of a
Speaker 1: running back in Houston, that's not as big a deal. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's big quarterback, but he's but he's he's a guy,
Speaker 1: right and they we're gonna have kind of a two
Speaker 1: headed running It's a rushing attack behind an offensive line
Speaker 1: that's not very good. That takes pressure off of them
Speaker 1: trying to protect their quarterback. That's that's kind of a
Speaker 1: big deal. It's not like a quarterback, but it's but
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Still the starting running back listen
Speaker 1: Lamar Lamar Miller at best was the third most important person,
Speaker 1: I mean third DeShawn the DeShawn Watson the quarterback and
Speaker 1: uh Hopkins the receiver. I mean if they lost one
Speaker 1: of those two, I'd be concerned clowning in in there.
Speaker 1: Yet either he's not it's a big one is not signed.
Speaker 1: So and there's been talk about maybe a trade. Could
Speaker 1: could that happen for Trent Williams, who is the unhappy
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins left tackle. Well the Skins say they're not
Speaker 1: getting rid of him. They want him too. Everybody, Okay, Prices.
Speaker 1: Here's how you notice it's BS is because the rumor
Speaker 1: was put out that the Patriots offered a future one
Speaker 1: and that they turned it down. Well, there was later
Speaker 1: that came out that wasn't true. It wasn't true from
Speaker 1: the Patriots standpoint, but the Redskins probably put it out
Speaker 1: there just so that they could broadcast in an indirect
Speaker 1: way open for business. Are I don't have anything against
Speaker 1: I just think that the way they operate as a joke.
Speaker 1: Although if I have the Texans, I make the phone
Speaker 1: call because I don't think they're gonna be a Clowney
Speaker 1: in They're not gonna pay him if they get Trent Williams,
Speaker 1: who's had a bunch of injuries. That the perfect thing
Speaker 1: that Dan Snyder would do, though, yeah, is to sign
Speaker 1: a guy like Clowney. What do you think you like that? Trade?
Speaker 1: That a guest joining us at the studio unnamed guests?
Speaker 1: Uh in and out quickly? Do you have it? Though?
Speaker 1: The AFC South just kind of some big headlines over
Speaker 1: the last two, three four. The Texans have issues, though
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't think the texts
Speaker 1: are great up front, But quarterback, if the best receiver
Speaker 1: maybe in football, defense is gonna be good. It does.
Speaker 1: If they don't I'm Clowney, it takes him a notch down.
Speaker 1: If Clowney doesn't get in there, doesn't show up. I
Speaker 1: would put Jags one because I think the defense is insane.
Speaker 1: He is so disruptive on defense. He is now that
Speaker 1: he's healthy and then ready to play, he was disruptive.
Speaker 1: I mean the last two years he caused his numbers
Speaker 1: aren't great, but he just like beats up people. It's
Speaker 1: in the backfield and guys are gonna free because of them.
Speaker 1: How about you Ja rankings? Um? Yeah, Colts still one, No,
Speaker 1: at the bottom. We're starting from the bottom, Colts down low.
Speaker 1: Tennessee is right there too. But the sole the thing
Speaker 1: for me is that the Jags somehow I have to
Speaker 1: figure out this Tennessee. They're gonna be You know what
Speaker 1: the word is in Tennessee that you're already locked. The
Speaker 1: word the word in Tennessee is that Mario is getting
Speaker 1: out played right right. You're watching the game. Bhy the
Speaker 1: guy that yeah, that wouldn't surprise, but the Jags still
Speaker 1: have issues with him. No, not this year. Got to
Speaker 1: stop being negative is saying it's the problem right now.
Speaker 1: Lock it right now. The Titans go down in the division.
Speaker 1: The Titans, we're gonna lock that both games to the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Jaguars will beat them here and in Nashville. Take you
Speaker 1: to the bank. What's the date today? Soundbiteck it? Thank
Speaker 1: you the first lock of the year. Give me Titans
Speaker 1: Colts Texans Jags four to one. Jackson the top, I
Speaker 1: got you the defense mainly. We don't know what the
Speaker 1: offense really is yet, but you have a feeling that
Speaker 1: can be good if guys are healthy. You know, it
Speaker 1: was last year when guys were healthy early saw was
Speaker 1: it Sports Illustrated that have the Jackson is a five
Speaker 1: win team this year? Yeah, there's people picking five six
Speaker 1: wins for the Jacks and Nick who knows had five
Speaker 1: last year? Well, last year they were all getting picked.
Speaker 1: They were picking the Jackson to the super Bowl. This
Speaker 1: year there, so let's hope that. Uh yeah, but they
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl m v P now playing quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's hope they're wrong both times. I hope they're wrong.
Speaker 1: Last year, that's somethingy're wrong. This year we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll go around the National Football League the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Since we've already touched the a FC sound we can
Speaker 1: continue are like Tennessee Titans. You can lock some more things.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans is an interesting team to me because
Speaker 1: I like Mariota. I'm just not I mean, Jeff was
Speaker 1: high on him coming out. I was not. I I'm
Speaker 1: a franchise guy coming up. I don't think generational generational,
Speaker 1: but I did say that I would take him over
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston. Yes, and I said I would not and
Speaker 1: I was right. Um so yes, everyone in the NFL
Speaker 1: would take Jameis Winston more than Mariota. Look at their numbers.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. The football season is I
Speaker 1: don't take to pick right now. You're the GMT. MARIOTAA.
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Speaker 1: to have him back next week. Of course, it depends
Speaker 1: who are Jeff Lago a filling in value. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, who is interviewing arguably the best young quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL today, they're gonna remind us again the
Speaker 1: Jakes could have had him. Well they could have. But
Speaker 1: if you get a guy seen the highlights some of
Speaker 1: their preseason action, they have like eight guys who were
Speaker 1: in like four or three. They're just run around everywhere,
Speaker 1: right they are. They are fast about so you know
Speaker 1: all this talk about and we talked about this a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when the Jags didn't play the
Speaker 1: starters the first two weeks. Well, here's what homes going
Speaker 1: out there scrambling around they play every week, by the way,
Speaker 1: diving towards the end zone. And I mean it's that
Speaker 1: was That was the dumbest, the dumbest scramble I have
Speaker 1: ever seen in the NFL. And it's a real game.
Speaker 1: He might try to die for the end zone. I
Speaker 1: think he slid at the end of the one yard
Speaker 1: line or something. But that kind of for the m
Speaker 1: v P. Man and Reid had a little talking to
Speaker 1: with him about that, But I mean that was they
Speaker 1: have they have a lot of weapons and uh, but Jeff,
Speaker 1: I mean how much what do you think about that though?
Speaker 1: I mean they're literally playing those guys every week for
Speaker 1: the first three weeks. I doubt to play week four.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean is it the right answer for them?
Speaker 1: And maybe is it the right answer for this team? Maybe?
Speaker 1: You know, I thought, like I said before, I kind
Speaker 1: of sit on the fence, well on this issue where
Speaker 1: you whether you should or should not play. That's give
Speaker 1: an opinion, let's go. I mean in some in some instances,
Speaker 1: I want to see the Jaguars play. I mean this
Speaker 1: is the best. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that, but
Speaker 1: I would not play them every game. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a mistake by Andy Reid. I thought you were
Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about I would I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I wouldn't do that. I mean, look, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a different NFL with the amount of talent that
Speaker 1: you have and and the quality of your backups, and look,
Speaker 1: maybe they're different. They feel like they've got great backups,
Speaker 1: but most teams don't. And you're talking about the best
Speaker 1: young quarterback in football that just made a decision that
Speaker 1: could have cost him in the organization greatly if somebody
Speaker 1: were to whack them in that instant. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's all about far and I would agree, Jeff, I know,
Speaker 1: I see no reward. Um. I liked him playing like
Speaker 1: I would have played Nick Foles in that offense in
Speaker 1: Week two, So I'm fine with him playing Week two
Speaker 1: Week three. I don't think you need to play one
Speaker 1: or four. Going back to the last thing, we had
Speaker 1: the power rankings AFC South Power Rankings, our first edition
Speaker 1: which we'll have on this show. Locked. What did you
Speaker 1: lock it? Undefeated? I locked? I locked. The Jags would beat,
Speaker 1: would sweep the Titans. And the reason I bring this
Speaker 1: up is that in in my power rankings, the first
Speaker 1: thing I said was that, well, the JAG's gotta get
Speaker 1: past this Titans thing. Well, this Titans thing is that
Speaker 1: the Titans have won six of the last seven meetings
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. You know what that means for this year?
Speaker 1: Not much, nothing, nothing. It means as much as you
Speaker 1: allow to meet as a team. Like, if you want
Speaker 1: to go dwell back and think back, what's happened to
Speaker 1: pass the last thing I remember Derrick Henry run a
Speaker 1: ninety nine and a half. I guess this team come
Speaker 1: Thursday night of week three for week two week is
Speaker 1: that we played three Week three after Houston Thursday night here.
Speaker 1: None of that. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: happened last year. I'm a firm believing that. I think
Speaker 1: we make too much of that streaks and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's nonsense. I would like if you allowed to affect,
Speaker 1: you will well whether it's affected a team or not.
Speaker 1: The reality is the numbers aren't lying. No, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that, but it shouldn't. What does it have
Speaker 1: to do what happened last year or two years ago,
Speaker 1: five years ago or ten years ago. What does it
Speaker 1: have to do with this? They need to bring you
Speaker 1: in and talk to the team the night before the game.
Speaker 1: Bring me in Monday of the I have a very
Speaker 1: small number. One Lara of all time is here. I'll
Speaker 1: wave it for them because that's how much I hate
Speaker 1: the Titans. I've locked it so I need, I need
Speaker 1: to participate in this. You did lock it. I just like,
Speaker 1: what does it mean? Like for Nick Foles who was
Speaker 1: in Philly last year, what does he care the rack retired, now,
Speaker 1: didn't they? Derek Morgans still there. I'm pretty sure I
Speaker 1: think he retired. Derek Morgan retired, he's he retired to
Speaker 1: I don't know. My point is it does not matter.
Speaker 1: Like Nick Foles wasn't even here. That's why they picked
Speaker 1: up Cameron Went. You know who lost to the Titans
Speaker 1: last year. The Eagles think about that for a while.
Speaker 1: So falls does know about the type? No, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Okay, Josh Allen was in Kentucky last year?
Speaker 1: Who cares? None of it matters? Well, didn't he lose
Speaker 1: a Tennessee probably? Okay, I give up. I'm trying, not
Speaker 1: working the volunteer actually bet Hi last year? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think volunteers are whipping much of anybody. Right now,
Speaker 1: let's try, let's come, let's continue, Let's go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League confused, we're not taking another commercial. Um.
Speaker 1: Let's start off with Patrick Chung pleading not guilty to
Speaker 1: cocaine possession charges. The rainment scheduled for this week. Next
Speaker 1: court appearance November eight. So what was the story? Did
Speaker 1: they come into his house and found the cook like
Speaker 1: he had a break in or something? I read and
Speaker 1: then the police came in or like how did they
Speaker 1: find a coke? I don't know, but but it was
Speaker 1: it happened back in like June a while back, yea
Speaker 1: or something. Look at the details. I want to know
Speaker 1: how they found it. What is and we'll get to that. Yes,
Speaker 1: but matters because that's his whole defense. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: some defense that it wasn't his couse in New Hampshire. Um,
Speaker 1: the arrayment was scheduled for this week. He waved it, uh,
Speaker 1: and we'll get the d I gotta I gotta dig
Speaker 1: to the d's a little bit more. But for the point,
Speaker 1: that's his defense. I it's not my coke. It was
Speaker 1: someone else's cocaine. So grand jury charge on June Meredith,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, where Chung has a residence. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought I read somewhere. I don't want to say that's whatever.
Speaker 1: That's his defense, but it's not. It's not a good look.
Speaker 1: I hope it's not. I hope it's not his not
Speaker 1: not for him just to be get all for anything
Speaker 1: like that, just for his personal well being, because if
Speaker 1: he's using coke, it ain't gonna end good. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you that Jacobe Brissette. We've mentioned the culture of the
Speaker 1: show right here, right, Um, well, he's the colt starting
Speaker 1: quarterback now, you know Andrew Luck retired. Really, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys heard the start of the show,
Speaker 1: but apparently Brissette does not have an official agent, so
Speaker 1: apparently agents around the league or ringing his phone off
Speaker 1: the hook. I'm sure trying to get him upboard about that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. In fact, though, when we were down in Miami,
Speaker 1: we saw one of the powerhouse agents in the hotel.
Speaker 1: So I'm on the sideline, which is Drew Rosenhouse and
Speaker 1: I don't know how many clients. That guy's got a lot,
Speaker 1: but he can. I don't know if there's a person
Speaker 1: on the plant that does a better job of managing
Speaker 1: people than him. Scott Boris Baseball has a lot as well.
Speaker 1: It probably makes more money because the baseball contract. But
Speaker 1: that's about it. I mean, I mean in the NFL world,
Speaker 1: I mean Drew A. Rose now he is the man.
Speaker 1: Is he still the guy? Oh? Yeah, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I don't know. Is he still the biggest agent?
Speaker 1: I would say so, is he? I have no idea, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a question. I don't know who is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty interestingthing. Else rest easy now, guys, Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown has multiple offers of helmet money. Is the crazy
Speaker 1: thing too? Brown is going to make cash from this
Speaker 1: fiasco of the player in the NFL that will have
Speaker 1: a helmet deal. Does any other player have a helmet
Speaker 1: deal in the NFL? I don't think they do. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be doing commercials for right l or whoever whoever.
Speaker 1: I think it's shut. Isn't it shut because he wore
Speaker 1: a shut helmet before? No, nobody's saying for sure. He
Speaker 1: has multiple multiple Yeah, he might have a new he
Speaker 1: h U T T right for the highest bidder. Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown can speak about helmets for you and wear one
Speaker 1: on the field. I don't know if I mean the
Speaker 1: helmet company can do it, because it's gonna be great publicity,
Speaker 1: make no mistake. But if you're if you're a company
Speaker 1: and you've seen Antonio brown behavior of the last two years,
Speaker 1: would you want him be in your spokesman? Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Whoever gets him is gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of press. And at the end of the day, what
Speaker 1: are those helmet companies want? Brand. They want their brand
Speaker 1: out there. Well with this whole idiotic craziness about a
Speaker 1: helmet and not missing, not showing up the practice and appeal,
Speaker 1: that's got to be one of the craziest stories ever
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But whoever he goes with it is
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of press and people are gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about. Name me a story that's been crazier
Speaker 1: than that this year. No, in the history of the league,
Speaker 1: the flight game, the how much air pressures in football, Wheather,
Speaker 1: Tom Braidy. That was way weirder. That was a weird
Speaker 1: But that one went on and on. Think about a
Speaker 1: person like a personality in the NFL that's became a
Speaker 1: story like that? Is there an another one? Is? I mean?
Speaker 1: I mean, remember what Dion was playing. He was a
Speaker 1: story all the time, but not like this. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is craziness. I have to think back.
Speaker 1: It's it's just odd a little different. Um, the Falcons
Speaker 1: want to get Julio Jones new contract done before the season.
Speaker 1: Do you think they will? Yeah, I think it's already done.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of them just breaking
Speaker 1: news are breaking. I'm not breaking dot com. Jeff is breaking.
Speaker 1: How many touchdowns does he average? Because you know you
Speaker 1: about to you talked to a lot of people in
Speaker 1: his single digits touchdowns on yearly average, he had like
Speaker 1: one or two last year to the year before, not
Speaker 1: very many. So Tony, you just keep picking them in
Speaker 1: fantasy football on game days. So I'm going with an
Speaker 1: Tonio Brown new helmet. But would you do I still
Speaker 1: consider Julio the best receiver's number one Hopkins Hopkins number one.
Speaker 1: If I'm picking a receiver for my team, it's DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins is my first pick. Yep. Yeah, last year eight
Speaker 1: touchdowns for Julio three of the six eight, six, two
Speaker 1: and then twelve he had ten. That's his high watermark.
Speaker 1: That was a second year in the league. Look at
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Would you'd probably take Hopkins over Julio. I'll
Speaker 1: take down Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Kill. I'll take in town
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham if he's my mind, I mean Odell like
Speaker 1: if he's gonna like when he's he's balling, he's bawling,
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Right, that's a handful that Green healthys Jayla
Speaker 1: Ramsey getting in his head again. Now, Julio is very good.
Speaker 1: I mean he's anywhere from three to six, seven eight.
Speaker 1: He's right there. Yeah, he's sitting there somewhere. But he's
Speaker 1: really good. He's not he's not worthy of being the
Speaker 1: top paid wide receiver in the league. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: that's that's Hopkins, That's Tyreek Hill, that's Antonio Brown without
Speaker 1: the craziness with the guy can still do things. He's
Speaker 1: an amazing athlete. Take your Alabama bias. Had had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with that. I'm just saying, like, just watching him.
Speaker 1: But if you look at and I'm gonna keep I
Speaker 1: keep on saying his name, DeAndre Hopkins. If you look
Speaker 1: what he's done with the quarterbacks he's had to play
Speaker 1: with and the numbers he puts up. Could you imagine
Speaker 1: if DeAndre Hopkins had Matt Ryan did not have a
Speaker 1: drop last year, but put him with one of these
Speaker 1: big time quarterbacks. Hopkins did not have a drop. And
Speaker 1: it's not like Hopkins with Ben Roethlisberg crazy. He's had
Speaker 1: a rotation of quarterbacks, bad offensive line, fill in the blanks,
Speaker 1: help receiver. Uh. The NFL and the NFL p A
Speaker 1: are meeting for a seventh cb A full bargaining session
Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow in Chicago. They're saying a new deal
Speaker 1: before the start of the year is unlikely, but talks
Speaker 1: are moving in a positive direction. The CBA expires after
Speaker 1: and remember the Christian Um early while back said he
Speaker 1: would want it to have a deal done before the season.
Speaker 1: Sounds like we're getting close now, but they're still meeting
Speaker 1: and moving ahead before this season or before this season.
Speaker 1: I think the do make sure it's done because after
Speaker 1: then you're going crazy lock out and everything else. So
Speaker 1: I hope it gets done. I hope because I don't
Speaker 1: see any reason why I can't get done considering what
Speaker 1: the league went through the last time this happened. I
Speaker 1: wasn't in the league then, but just watching it from
Speaker 1: the outside, just the you don't want to be on
Speaker 1: that storyline of lockouts and this is bad for business.
Speaker 1: Every really wasn't. How bad was it? Like what happened?
Speaker 1: It's just the negative. He don't want everywhere. They came
Speaker 1: back and played football. Nothing happened. He's still the number
Speaker 1: one sport, number one American sport. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like if you don't if it, if you can avoid it. Great.
Speaker 1: The only time we're to get negative you start taking
Speaker 1: games away from an impact. Then it's an impact that
Speaker 1: put the way that even it was an annoyance last
Speaker 1: or seven, eight years ago wherever he was. Um. But
Speaker 1: I think it gets done during the season or the
Speaker 1: next offseason before I think it's done for sure, before
Speaker 1: the season, it'll be done. The big question is is
Speaker 1: what do they do with preseason and are they going
Speaker 1: to from They got to addressed the preseason games. They
Speaker 1: got to agree Jeff, and then they don't need to
Speaker 1: change the regular season. Actually, I probably would mean towards
Speaker 1: Jeff and not to Alright, fellas, Tony, well done, Hey Blocks,
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for coming in, Jeff, way to go.
Speaker 1: Let's get out of my seat. Bestow of the year,
Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, Brent Raybram JP Shadow will see you next time.
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