1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football into the open field. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Man is gonna go. It is Monday, August. This is 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans. 4 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: And now a man whose unexpected retirement would go completely unnoticed. 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: J Peece shad Rick. I wouldn't get booed either. Well, 6 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: command Jaguars Happy Hour by Jet Home Loans. I get 7 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: booed anyway. You make it boo boo booby when I 8 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: show up J P. Jadrick, that's Jeff Lockerman. Tony Buselli 9 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Loggs is in tonight for Pete Frisco Pets in Kansas 10 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: City Chasing. An m v P quarterback interviewer told so, um, 11 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in tonight, lot sure. I mean, holy cow, 12 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: were you guys like me over the weekend and stuff? 13 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Here's what's going on in the show tonight. We'll get 14 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: to that in just a moment. Andrew Luck retiring and 15 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: obviously the huge duds in the a f C South. 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: We'll get back to Josh Allen's performance. That's been the 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: talk of the town over the weekend. I think until 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: the Andrew Luck stuff. Some new defensive looks for this team. 19 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Where do the Jaguars offense stand after Week three of 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: the preseason? Some cuts coming up down the line. Doug 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: Marone hates this week, and we'll go around the national 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: football leagues. Well, lots stick get to tonight, A jam 23 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: pack program, busy weekend, busy and then actually wasn't that 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: busy for the Jags? And just I think the the 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: whole I mean the whole Andrew Luck thing, I think 26 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: shook the whole league. And then the controversy or the 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: arguments about whether he's right wrong and different timing wise. 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: And then the secondary thing, which is probably more important 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: to this whole organization is wide open. The division become 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: or it changes the look at the division because I 31 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: thought the Colts were clearly the favorite after what they 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: did last year and the roster, and I still think 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: it is a very good roster. And and but with 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, I thought was the best quarterback, they were 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the favorite. Him gone, it changes a lot of things, 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: a lot. It was an interesting weekend. I didn't believe it. 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. I had a double check the tweet. 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: Just somebody had asked me the question what I thought 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: about Andrew Luck. And I'm like, what are you talking about? 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Because I was at the was the Bold Cities showcase 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: b football games at Bowls and also somebody asking me about, Hey, 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: what do you think about Andrew Luck. I'm like, well, 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: I think he's a great quarterback. What do you what 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: do you mean? They're like, you just announced her. There 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: was announced was he's gonna retire like whatever, and I 46 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: just completely ignored it. And then I realized that it 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: was true, and I was shocked, shocked, but I was 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: like at that point, I still was like, let me 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: I just want to hear it from his mouth. And 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: then when you saw the the video clip and the 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: and the fans that were booing them and everything, You're like, 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: come on on, I mean, I mean the fans, it 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: was too much. It was disappointed that they did, but 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: he was the franchise. He was the franchise, and it 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, and you know, your first reaction 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: is the wrong reaction, but it's an emotional reaction because 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: they're tied to their organization. They want to win, and 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: so I'm not saying it's okay, but there I mean, 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure they woke up the next morning, We're probably 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: regretted a little bit, but at the time, everybody was 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: caught up in that moment, and it's not how this 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: was supposed to go down. What we understand. He was 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: supposed to talk to the team and announce it the 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: next day at like three in the afternoon, and they 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: got leaked somehow, and that was not how it was 66 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be at all. Well, it was shocking, like 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Jeff said, But then if you as you look back 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: at the timeline, what has gone on. Something is not 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: right with his body, or how he is rehabbing it, 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: or his body is responding, or what is going on mentally, 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: like how he feels about the process, because I mean, 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: he got a calf. The story was it was a 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: caffe injury in March April when he started coming back 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: to work out, that still got it. That then went 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: to a high ankle sprain and m R S. And 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: he has practiced twice since March and combining O t 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: AS in camp. So something was off. And you know 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: this is after coming missing seventeen because of the shoulder, 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: So his body is not responding. And I think mentally, 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: if you listened to what he said, he just couldn't 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: do anymore. And it's not just a season process, it's 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: a year round process. But here's the thing. I want 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: to say something because a lot of guys go through that. Listen, 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: rehabs a year round thing. Playing the NFL's a year 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: round and so what it told me, and this is okay, 86 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm not being critical, it's fine, is that he fell 87 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: in love out of love with football or and because 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: the love of the game and what you do has 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: to be high enough to deal with all the stuff 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: that goes into being able to play. And some point 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: it shifted where the pain in the rehab and the 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: mental the mental anguish and all the things that go 93 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: into doing your job as a professional athlete in the 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: NFL and as a quarterback that got bigger than how 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: he felt about the game. And I want to clarify something. 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: Tony's not saying he doesn't love the game, but the 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: pain and the discomfort and the bad feelings exceed the 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: level of love that you have. He fell out, But 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: that's falling out of love with it. It's not. That's 100 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: not negative, it's not doesn't make like I heard read things. 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Though he's soft, he's not watch Andrew Luck play, he's 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: anything but soft. Remember one year in my career that 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: that I was close to where he was at. And 104 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: it was the year before I came here, and I 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: had a shoulder that I was playing with that needed reconstructing. 106 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I had torn PCL on my left knee. I never 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: missed a game. But playing like that and living like 108 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: that on a week to week basis, that's fun. No fun. 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: And at the end of the season you have rehab 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: and then then you're like, you start feeling better and 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: you start feeling better about where you're gonna be at. 112 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, imagine Andrew Luck where he went through 113 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: the rehab process for a couple of years with his 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: shoulder and and now he has an issue that crops 115 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: up with his with his leg and it's not getting better. 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to be emotional training. And here 117 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: here's the other reality. The reality is in the National 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: Football League and today than today's game. After seven years 119 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, he has made generational, life 120 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: changing money. That's a fact. He's made more than a 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and his seven years in the National 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Football and the in the clubs isn't going to take 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: back the twenty four that they could take. So does 124 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: does that factor in? Yeah, I mean it looks, but 125 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: that's why. But Jeff, that's why. Money to where you 126 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: can say, look, I'm done. Yeah, but here's but this 127 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: is why I think he fell in love with out 128 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: of love with the game. Because there's a lot of 129 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: guys that rehab year around. There's a lot of guys 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: who deal with English. There's a lot of guys in 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: this league and make a lot of money and they 132 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: continue to do it. Why Because they love the game. 133 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: That's what they love. That's I mean the past. Some 134 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: guys love the game, Tony. Some guys love the money 135 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: and something. Some guys love everything that comes along with it. 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: But my point is, but there's, like I got asked, 137 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: is this gonna be something you're gonna see more and 138 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: more of because of all the money these guys make. 139 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. You're gonna have it every 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: once in a while. I mean I remember it was 141 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: like four or five years ago. The linebacker for the Forts, 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: the starter can't remember his name, and he had a 143 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: couple of concussions and he retired out of the blue 144 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: when he was in the midst of his career and 145 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh my gosh, CT and concussion scares, and 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have all these guys he was draft like 147 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: second year, everyone's gonna start retiring because of the fear. 148 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: It's just me a trend. It's hasn't happened since. And 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck, and he is a guy 150 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: that wanted to do other things more than play the 151 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: game of football. But every guy in the NFL goes 152 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: through a process of the physical toll and the mental 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: all on their bodies. And I appreciate the fact that 154 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: he was raised right and he didn't have his identity 155 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: solely attached to football, and he was able to make 156 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a decision for himself. Good for him. Well, the only 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: thing that would have been and I agree with you. 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: And the other reason I'll say that, obviously something where 159 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: the game just lost its luster is because he very 160 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: easily could have gone on I R and they offered 161 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: it to him, or you could have taken another eight 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: or nine weeks, no pressure of getting back, take your time, 163 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: get healthy and and come back for the end. And 164 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: he didn't even want to do that. So he was 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: done mentally, he was finished playing football and he couldn't 166 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: do it anymore. And if you know that, you don't 167 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: need to go out and you don't need to continue. 168 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: And so that's where I actually I with Jeb. I 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: respect the fact that he knew he was done. He 170 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: couldn't do it anymore, He couldn't drive himself mentally and 171 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: physically to get ready to play a game because he 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: didn't love it enough Anymore's and that's not a criticism, 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: that's just a fact. The only the only thing that 174 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I've heard people say the frustration isn't and it's fair 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: enough is why did he wait till the very right 176 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: before the season to do it and put the organization 177 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: in the position that he did. My point that is, 178 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: if you'd if you'd have done it right before training camp, 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: what's different. They're not finding another quarterback. I mean, they're 180 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: not going here here. Here's the reality. Though he probably 181 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: didn't come to that conclusion until he actually made the 182 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: decision and called the team right, you know, I mean, 183 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: looks sometimes things happen like that, you know, in an 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: off season. I'm sure that he's like, oh, this is okay, 185 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: because he actually said that the season was one of 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: the most rewarding seasons he's ever had, so he obviously 187 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: had fun the year and then to go back into that, Uh, 188 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he called like a dark place of 189 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: that cycle. I mean it was just too much for whatever. 190 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean, look here, here's the thing, what he has said. 191 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: I take for exactly what has said. I don't read 192 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: anything into it. I don't try to decipher anything out 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: of it because I don't get the impression that what 194 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck tells you and what is reality are two 195 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: different things. I believe that he's a totally honest guy 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: and he's up front. Doug Maron asked about this yesterday, 197 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: in fact, that his press conference at the start of 198 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: the practice week and an opposing head coach in the 199 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: division thinking about the other team's quarterback. I know how 200 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: difficult it is, I know how difficult this game is. 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how great, great of a competitor is. 202 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: So um, I felt it was unfortunate. You know that, 203 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, injuries are you know, taking part of it, 204 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it must have been very, very difficult 205 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: for him. Um, just just a loss for the game. 206 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: There's Doug Marone with you know what a quote there 207 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: that kind of summed it up pretty easy, I think 208 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: right there, and it is. It is because he's a 209 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: really good football, great football player, great quarterback. UM loved 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: his competitive nature, everything about it about him, and he 211 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: played hard. Everything you read, he was a great teammate 212 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: and everything. Obviously just a smart guy. Did it right. 213 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Here's the reality. The game goes on. That's right. I 214 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: mean that's not. I mean it's a shock now, but 215 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be thinking about it week one. Jacoby Brissette 216 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: is not worried about this when he lines up. Nobody, 217 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: the players and the coaches are going to be thinking 218 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: about it. But but look, this is this is one 219 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: of the I would say, the most notable early retirements 220 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: from the NFL in NFL history. Bigger than Jim Brown, 221 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: and he's right up there, Barry Sanders right up there. 222 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Just so you know, both of those guys are Hall 223 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: of famers. He's not going to the Hall of Fame. 224 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I still say that this is right up. I mean 225 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: it's big. You're talking about a franchise quarterback ten years 226 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: and his prime play for our ten years. I mean, absolutely, 227 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: it's as big as those guys I'm saying, But it's 228 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,119 Speaker 1: not everyone's it's the biggest because it's happening to us now. 229 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Ten years from now, it will still be ranked right 230 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: up there when we ranked up there. But to say 231 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: it's the biggest ever is who said biggest? Said the quote? 232 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: You said biggest. There you go again, playing them wax 233 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: out of your Earry Sanders was a big one. That's 234 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: the one I remember when I was he was a 235 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: big one. There's no yead as one of the biggest. Absolutely, 236 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: it's a it's a huge, biggest, absolute franchise quarterback, one 237 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he was healthy, 238 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: top five quarterback probably and decided to hang it up. 239 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: He was a big deal. And he was seven and 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: three against the Jaguars. Here's here's the other thing that 241 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: makes it big. I mean from a from a financial standpoint, 242 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's walked away from ballpark 243 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: of three hundred million. Yeah, two to three for sure. 244 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: Let me think about it. I mean, guys made a 245 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred three million, and if he had ten more years 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: of playing in the National Football League, his earnings would 247 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: have probably been two the minimum going up minimum two 248 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: other things. I mean, I mean, look, I mean that 249 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the reality. So I think it that 250 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: that makes it pretty big huge. Yeah, we've got plenty 251 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: to get too. On the program, will discuss the rest 252 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: of the a f C South Division changes that changes 253 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: in the division that there was some other news from 254 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: some other teams. Will get to those coming up a 255 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: little later. We'll get into Josh Allen's night in Miami 256 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. We'll come back and get into Nick 257 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Foles night. His debut was a Jaguars quarterback. That was 258 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: last Surgay against the Dolphins. We're often running itainst Jaguars 259 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars 260 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Digital Network. 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You know, I mean, 316 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: obviously there's some good, there's some bad. Um. I think 317 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the big thing is it was just good being out there. Um, 318 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: it's always good. Just stepping in the huddle playing a game. 319 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Is my first time wearing you know, the Jaguars uniform 320 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: in a game. Um, and that you know is emotional 321 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: in itself. UM, so that was a good first step forward. Um. 322 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: We're able to, you know, move the ball a little 323 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: bit touchdown. Obviously we want to score more points and 324 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, there's things that we'll learn from. But all 325 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: and all, it was great just being out there with 326 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: the guys today. Nick Foles, you might have heard of him, 327 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback after the game Thursday night in Miami. Welcome 328 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: Back Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jet Homelands, j P Shadrick, 329 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Tony Baselli, Jeff Lagoman, and Tonight for Pete Prisco. He's 330 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: in Kansas City chasing Mahomes around, so he he need 331 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: he needs the extra time to chase him around apparently, 332 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: So that's okay. Hey, it's a big story. So hopefully 333 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Pete can get a little inside scoop that we could use. 334 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: That's not his job, I don't think, right, no matter 335 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: if it's his job or still steal stuff. He's a 336 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: neutral guy, allegedly, right he is. Yeah, I think he's 337 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: pretty neutral. Pretty coming up before we go. I'm looking 338 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: at you got this board here, Jeff, Yeah, I'm looking 339 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: at what about the game in Atlanta. You have a 340 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: lot of names on here you don't really need. They're 341 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: really a waste of time. Like you put a lot 342 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: of work into this, it's a waste. I'm not sure 343 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: why you have Clay's Campbell's name on the board. So 344 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: for those on radio, he's gonna play that has a 345 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: depth chart of defense on one team and offense and 346 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: the other team Ryan, No, No, I didn't need to 347 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: put it on there. Woh you know he might play 348 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: you think we're see Julio, Yeah, I mean this is 349 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: what a waste. This was just and just use the 350 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: board was a more room, right about the guys that 351 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: are gonna make the teams there on game night, I 352 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: think it's I think I will say this real quick 353 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: about the last preseason game. For for the guys that 354 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: are playing, that's got to be a bad feeling. Don't 355 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: let me forget let me say this about it. It's 356 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: a bad feeling from the standpoint of if you're playing, no, 357 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you're on the bubble. You're on the bubble at best, 358 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: more than likely you're not gonna make it. If you're sitting, 359 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: you're on the team based then at the same token, 360 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: you want to play your best because this is a watch, yeah, 361 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: that somebody else might see. So it's gotta be kind 362 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: of bitter sweet for the guys that are playing in 363 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: this fourth preseason game. You know so, but look, God 364 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: bless him. I hope that they play well. I hope 365 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: they make a team somewhere. So what it's about just talking. 366 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: We'll hear from some of the guys that are kind 367 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: of on the bubble in the locker room yesterday. In fact, 368 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: coming up a little later on the program tonight, we'll 369 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: get to Josh Allen coming up a little bit later 370 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: and his night with some reaction to that. Yeah, we 371 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: called the postgame the overreaction hour, but it was it 372 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: was a nice night for him. We'll get to that 373 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: coming up. Offense. Just heard from the quarterback. What do 374 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: you guys stand on on the offense now? After the 375 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: four drives you saw the other night, are you more 376 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: less or the same amount of comfortable with what this 377 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: JAG's offense is going to be? You wanna go first? 378 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm not more. I'm I'm just I'm not at the 379 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: same point like I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see. I'm 380 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: waiting to see as well. Yeah, I'm like that didn't do. 381 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: He had two three interceptions and the play drive that 382 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: was eighted by penalties, and the running game still looks 383 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: not very good to me. Now. The funny thing is, 384 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: you go back to seventeen Jeff and I said, this 385 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: team is not gonna be able to run the ball. 386 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: The run game stinks there. Their offensive lines really struggling. 387 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Because that's in seventeen. They couldn't move it an inch 388 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: and they had the starters aft the whole time. And 389 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: then they go to Houston and literally Pound crushed them 390 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: and ended up having a very good rushing year as 391 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: a team. Um. And so you never want to read 392 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: too much into the preseason, so I'm not going to. 393 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: But that didn't do much for me on Thursday night. 394 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: And that's a that's a young, young Dolphins defense that's 395 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: not viewed as one of the top it's a bad defense. 396 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: So uh, and they were missing some starters on defense, 397 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: so uh, it was good to see and it was 398 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: good to see the starters get out there and play 399 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. And it was even better to see 400 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: that nobody got hurt for the most part, so that 401 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: that was a positive. Yeah, dj Um, I think he's 402 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna be okay. I mean he's and I haven't they 403 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: said anything about him, by the way, CUSSI protocol, I 404 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: mean nothing about the knee, and they don't have to 405 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: say anything about it. Not. The only thing they said 406 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: was protocol at the game, So it wasn't had nothing 407 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: because they have no I mean nothing. At this point 408 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: of the preseason, you're not going to talk about injuries 409 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: unless you have to, because now you're starting to get 410 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: to get close to the games when they count, so 411 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna be pretty close to the vest with the 412 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: information that you have. So but I mean, it didn't 413 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: look like a need to me. It was just like 414 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: he just his mind and his feet weren't working together, 415 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: and then he got at the beginning kind and it wasn't. 416 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: He just s thought, for whatever reason, looked to you guys, 417 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: I thought he looked I thought he I thought he 418 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: looked good once he kind of got out of that, 419 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: because I think there's an adjustment period when you go 420 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: into the preseason game because you're you're a practice speed 421 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: and then you have to kind of relearn the tempo 422 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: and the speed of a real game. And I thought 423 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: that once he kind of got going to the tempo, 424 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: I thought he was really good. The first couple of 425 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: series wasn't so good. I'd like to see him catch 426 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: that one ball that he had an opportunity in the 427 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: flat and I know that you know there was a 428 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: defender that was right there, but it would have been 429 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: a one on one opportunity. And also look, he could 430 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: have made the guy miss and maybe have gotten the 431 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: first down. I don't know, but I thought he looked solid. 432 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: And I thought he looked solid when he did get 433 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: out there in the in the past in the flat, 434 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: he made a nice contact with the guy knocked him down, 435 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: got an extra five or so. Yeah. I mean that 436 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: was when you could kind of tell that look, Okay, 437 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: now it's game speed and he's bringing it. I thought 438 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: the offensive line got better as the game progressed. Wasn't 439 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: good enough, No, I don't think it was good enough. 440 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: I thought that John Taylor, who had I want to say, 441 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: like nineteen snaps somewhere in that range, because he was 442 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: out there with the ones, he might have even had 443 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: more than that. He had a little deeper what he 444 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: went second, he went all the way and he had 445 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: twenty thirty seven snaps. I thought he was okay, but 446 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: there are some things that he needs to do with 447 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: his hands to can to be better. He lets his 448 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: hands get outside sometimes. And I hate to say this, 449 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I thought Cam Robinson had a solid night, but he 450 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: also had this one play where I saw him extend 451 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: that leg out again, which was kind of a footwork 452 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: A footwork issue last year. Um, I don't know, Tony, 453 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: if you saw it or not, but it was one 454 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: play in particularly kind of he started to round his 455 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: set instead of continued to kiss. Very good. I talked 456 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: about the game really opened up quickly. We had six plays. Um, 457 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: I don't how do you feel about it when you 458 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: talked to him? Good? He felt good. Physically great? Yeah, 459 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: physically looks good. He felt good. Physical not very good 460 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: in the game. Um, I thought you wanna Taylor played 461 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: great for his first game. You gotta keep it in perspective. 462 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, just right, these things to work with, but 463 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: as far as doing your all, as far as doing 464 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: your job blocking people strong, he did a great job strong. 465 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: I thought will Richardson take the two uh false steps, 466 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: starts away what you can't do. I mean, obviously that's 467 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: part of it. I thought he was okay. I think 468 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: he's better than a j can right now. I think 469 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: there's more upside. I think they're even. I think you'd 470 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: go with the more upside. But it wasn't nearly as 471 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: good as the previous week with with Will Richardson. That's 472 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: a fact. But he's physical, he's big, he's athletic. He 473 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: gets his back flat, which means he moves people. UM 474 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: put him him in Jowana on the same side that 475 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: two big, strong road traders. Now, so I like that. 476 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you know he's starting. But 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: here here's I think the the tight end position concerns. 478 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: And Jeff Swain was back in the practice. We haven't 479 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: seen any tight ends that are gonna be on the 480 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: active rock, you understand. I mean that's the problem. That's 481 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: because it's not like there's no doubt. It's not like 482 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: you have Tony Gonsols and Shehannon's sharp you know, off 483 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: to the side. Way didn't block anybody. All he did 484 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: was catch pass. Okay, you don't want either, but Gronk, Yeah, 485 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: I'll take Gronk or you don't want Oh no, I 486 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: just I don't want a Hall of Famer. Yeah, no, 487 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: I don't want other Hall of Famer. But but I 488 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens against 489 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Kent's City on what is that September eight at the 490 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: right guard position, because you know, with a Juwan Taylor 491 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: at right tackle, there's a rookie. Do you feel better 492 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: about having an A j Can who has a lot 493 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: of games under his belt now in his fifth season 494 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: beside him, or do you go you know what, let's 495 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: go with Will Richardson, who is in his first kie. 496 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: You don't have any experience. Let me grow together kind 497 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: of well, I mean let him grow together is one idea. 498 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Or the other thing is, hey, look we've got a rookie. 499 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Let's get some experience next to our rookie right tackle 500 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: and you feel a little bit more comfortable in that 501 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: safe zone with a j king. Put the best guys 502 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: out there, put your best five out there. But it's 503 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: a resting debate. I'm with Tony went I'm with Tony. 504 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: The idea is to be at your best by the 505 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: time you get in the playoffs. I mean, obviously you 506 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: want to get in the playoffs, but the roof is higher, 507 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: the ceiling is higher with Whereward Richardson. In my opinion, 508 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: all right, but you have at the offensive. Look at 509 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: last Thursday's game. We're back in a moment and the 510 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: big story of the game. Last week on defense, Josh 511 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: Allen made his Jaguars debut. Will get to that when 512 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: we come back. Join us for a moment twenty five 513 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: years in the making. Do you remember where you were 514 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: for friends? Ninety yard run guys, we're in the Yeah, yeah, 515 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: I was in the hospital bed. That's not good. 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But uh, 575 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: you know I felt better, you know today, Me and 576 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: plays had a long top before and he definitely had 577 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: my mind and thinking about what I need to do 578 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: and how I need to do it. So um so 579 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: lose to him and a mon the saline talking to 580 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: me too, So you know it was a good day 581 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: to day. Josh Allen in the locker room in Miami 582 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: after his fantastic first half of the Jaguars preseason Week 583 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: three Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 584 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: We'll find out tonight if he can throw strikes or not. 585 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: He's throw on the first pitch at the Jumbo Shrimp 586 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: game tonight. Awesome. They're playing the Mobile BayBears tonight. Have 587 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: you done that throughout a first pitch? I did one 588 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: time at the jum No, no, no not. The Jumbo 589 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Shrimp Hill was a high school game. I did the 590 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: Jumbo Shrimp. I bounced it to the plate by the Yeah. Yeah, 591 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: so I did it at the Jumbo shrimp back then 592 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: there with the suns. Now the jumper. Is that your 593 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: bad shoulder? You're right arm, it's my left. I wouldn't 594 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: have gone. I wouldn't even showing up and uh the U. 595 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: So you get there and they and JP. You know 596 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: this because so they tell you you can throw like 597 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: five steps in front of the mound. I can't do that, 598 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: can't do that. You're there to So they said, they 599 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: said here, throw up here. I said, there's not a 600 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: chance you got going to the rubbers. Yeah, I did 601 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Strike Get out of here. Give me 602 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: my word, how hard was it? I mean it was 603 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: was not lollipop. It was on a line. Really, but 604 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: I would say sixty maybe, I mean it was it 605 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: was gonna be. It was. They'd been practicing for No, 606 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm throwing the baseball for years and but I mean 607 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: I grew up playing baseball and pitched, and uh, junior high. 608 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: My right shoulders the one I had reconstructed. There's twice 609 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: even did it. I had to try try and I 610 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: said I was like you. They're like, you can screwt 611 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: up a little bit. I'm like, I'm not doing that. 612 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm going for the man. I would rather bounce it 613 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: or roll it to the plate than they didn't screw 614 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: it up and I bounced it, So I was I 615 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: was quite content with it to be six six inches. 616 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: Let's go. Is that what it is? I do? A strike? 617 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: That was what is the first base nine? Okay, that's 618 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: what you say. Me clarify this. When I say a strike, 619 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: the catcher did not have to get out of his 620 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: stance to catch it. That's a strike. I mean, I 621 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: don't like it was an actual I call that it's strike. 622 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: If they swing at it, to remember that miss. There's 623 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: that's one thing. Man. You don't realize this is not 624 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to see that Josh Allen tonight seven five. 625 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: But Jeff sitting on that mound and throwing it thinking 626 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: there's a batter. They're swinging as hard as you can. 627 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, those guys, you gotta have some you actually 628 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: have to do, not have to be tough, you just 629 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: have to have no brain or thought that that ball 630 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: can come back and hit you. Because if you're thinking 631 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: about that, you can't throw, You're done. You'll have the yips. 632 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: You can't throw. It's like they just have to It's 633 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: an actual issue. Yeah, they just have to block that 634 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: stuff out. I mean, I assume that they don't. You 635 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: got through a good pitch. Is that way you don't 636 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: get hit? Well, it doesn't matter major ly. Hitters are 637 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: coming back at you one way, sooner later money who's 638 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: been hit by a comebacker before, and that is a 639 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: real mental girdle to come back from some guys. Yes, 640 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: sooner or later it's coming up. It's coming right back 641 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: at you. So, Josh Allen, that was the whole genesis 642 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: of that conversation. Tonight throw the first pitch of the 643 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp against the Mobile Bay Bears seven oh five, 644 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: the first pitch time tonight umi the biggest overreaction in 645 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the preseason I can remember. You think he had a 646 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: great first half to Okay, go over what he did. 647 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: He had a couple of tackles for loss to hit 648 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback twice, two of them, what four tackles to 649 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: total tackles. Um was in around almost a lot of 650 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: the place most of the plays, I would say, and 651 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: he was physically u uh powerful against the run. Yeah, 652 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: I thought he was stout when you did. When the 653 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: announcer didn't call his name, he looked good. So I 654 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: thought he played very well. And I think Josh Allens 655 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a fabulous football player. I really do. I think. 656 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a great pick. I've said it all along. 657 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: I still think he has a ways to go as 658 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: a pass rusher. Um, he's not as like when you 659 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: and I when Unique came in here, he was more 660 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: finished as a pass rusher. Would you not agree? Jeff 661 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: and me? He was eight with his hand use and 662 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: like from Yeah, Josh Allen is a physical I'm not 663 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: talking about but I'm talking hand used and moves and 664 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: everything else like that. Josh Allen needs to continue to 665 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: progress there. He's me fabulous. The offensive line Dolphins is 666 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL and the tackles he was 667 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: playing against are atrocious. The first play that didn't even 668 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: block him. Yeah, and so I'm not taking anything away 669 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: from him. It was a great night, and I think 670 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is going to be a outstanding player, maybe 671 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: has an opportunity to be rookie defensive Rookie of the Year, 672 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, based on his just pure physical ability in 673 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: his in his uh, his knack to be around the ball. 674 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: I want to take a big deep breath. I mean 675 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: you if you listen to Twitter and some of the 676 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: reactions from the local media, like let's put him in 677 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: like all Pro Hall of Fame, like he's like the 678 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: greatest player on defense. Is going to like all the 679 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: stud like all of the sudden, it's like l T 680 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: s we have LT on the field. I'm like, well, well, wait, 681 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: back up his second. The kid, it's a rookie learning. 682 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: Let's not set I don't want to set these unreal expectations. 683 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: And he gets into the regular season and and like 684 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot of rookie starts a little slow. So all 685 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: you're saying is, let's not give our let's not give 686 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: ourselves a speeding tickets. Okay, but you're still excited about 687 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: good because you were kind of starting to shave my blood. No, no, 688 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: no not. I think Josh I said this from the beginning. 689 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: I love the pick. I love watching practice. He's a 690 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: physical specimen. If he continues to work in like he 691 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: does because he listens to the veterans, he's working at 692 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: his craft, and he continues to do that and gets 693 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: a couple of pass rushing moves, the guys would be 694 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: very very good. Yeah, he'shnula be outstanding. But I'm like, 695 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: let's I'm not in the opinion that he needs to 696 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: find pass rushing moves. I mean, I think they'll come 697 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: with time, the ones that where he has a patent move, 698 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: but his his pass rushes speed and also the ability 699 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: to bend, spin and then work either side of the tackle. 700 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: Does he have a patent and move like in gock 701 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: Way right now? Now? My point is how to use 702 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: the speed and then go speed to power. If he 703 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: just does that, I'm not talking about he has to 704 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: become like the you know, figure out how he's gonna 705 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: spin like von Miller or or get that you know 706 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: hump moved like Greggy White or Unique. I think he 707 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: could handle all of the moves at some point. Got 708 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: that kind of saying right now, learn to have a 709 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: game plan, which he's progressing of going in using your 710 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: speed and go speed to power. You're gonna give up 711 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: most tackles in this league. Trouble. I was excited to 712 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: see the very first snap where they went to a 713 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: three four. That was the first play of the game right, 714 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 1: first player of the game, first play of the game, 715 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: and it was kind of it was kind of weird 716 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 1: because they started out with leon Jacob's out there, which, 717 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: by the way, they ran three four with leon Jacob's 718 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: out there too, but the very first play they had 719 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: leon Jacobs out there and then they run him off 720 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: the field. I'm going, what are they doing? Or do 721 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: they set? And then I saw Josh Allen running out there, 722 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: and I was going, wait a minute, they're not subbing 723 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: to Nickel, so what are they doing? And then that's 724 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: why I was paying attention to the lineup, and I 725 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, that's a three four, and 726 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: so what they essentially do when they go to a 727 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: three four number one, you're getting one of your best 728 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: players on the field, which is Josh Allen, at the 729 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: same time as you have another one of your best 730 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 1: players on the field at same time, which is Yaniqueckway, 731 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: and and Gockway, from what it looked like, played the 732 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: sam outside linebacker and then Josh Allen played what would 733 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: be the will outside linebacker on the three four. Either 734 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: that or they're just playing left and right because he 735 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: likes the right side better. Yeah, So I don't know 736 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: because if John was on John was on the left side. 737 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was on the right now, And when 738 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: he went three four, he was on the left side, 739 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: which is so they're playing Sam and Will. They're not 740 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: playing left and right, which in it's which they probably 741 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: could play left and right if they wanted to, which 742 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: would make some sense. I would the right every time 743 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: because it's a better past n a better pass rush 744 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: on the right side. Tony's right on that. So but 745 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: it was cool. I think they had maybe four, maybe 746 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: five snaps of of what I would call three four defense. 747 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: If they only did it once with those guys right, No, 748 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 1: they did it uh twice with in Gockway and Josh 749 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: Allen as the outside backers, and then they did it 750 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: another two times with Leon. Yeah, I knew that, So 751 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: twice twice there there was four four that I counted 752 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: in the game of of true what I thought were 753 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: snapping against twelve or twenty one personnel. So against base 754 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: package back it wasn't It wasn't a sub or anything 755 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: like that. Now when they went to sub which is 756 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: their nickel package, and a lot of people at at 757 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: times we're thinking that it was a three four, but 758 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: it's the stand up package is a spinner, you know, 759 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: where he's the what I always call Lawrence Taylor made 760 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: it famous back in the day when he would stand 761 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: up and rush from anywhere, walk around, and that's kind 762 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: of what in Gockway does sometimes. And they have you know, 763 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: Klaius and Josh Allen down and then Marcel or Abrien 764 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: as the nose tackle and then Yahn's walking around rushing 765 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: you like I act you don't like you on at 766 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: that position as much effective, and I'm I'm with you. 767 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: But at the one time that they did have them, 768 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: that was when Josh Allen came free underneath and got 769 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: a hit on the quarterback. That's a little bit of 770 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: a game. So I like it, but it's not something 771 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be your staple for Janick and 772 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Gockway in my opinion, in that three four and Gockway, 773 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: Allan on the outside, Avery in the middle, Calais and 774 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: it would have been Marcel Darius correct, but it was 775 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: Taven And then in that game, that's right, that's pretty 776 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: good vibe right there. Look, you're getting your best, you're 777 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: getting your best players on the field. And during the 778 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: game they played a lot of man coverage with that. Uh, 779 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: are they gonna do other things out of that shore 780 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: They can. They can do whatever they want out of 781 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: that because in Gockway and and Josh Allen can drop 782 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: in coverage. As you could see from watching Josh Allen 783 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: make that tackle out in space on the flat throw 784 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: when it was a fire zone when they were running 785 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: a four three fire zone, which is one of the 786 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: more impressive plays still talks about. It's like unblocked hits 787 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: to the quarterback or unblocked tackle for a loss. Those 788 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: are like great. I mean, every good player gets unblocked 789 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: at times, and they got you gotta capitalize because not 790 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: all guys can't even when they're unblocked. What was most 791 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: impressive at Twitter and seventy pounds of operating in space 792 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: and making the open field tackle in the athletic ability 793 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: that I saw on that play that was more impressive 794 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: than anything else. Let me add something that play, what 795 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought was as as impressive as the athletic ability. 796 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: When he's lining up, he's in a two point stance 797 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: and he he looks like he's coming and he also 798 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: takes a peek to the outside before the snap and 799 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: he's goin to get an idea of the lay of 800 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: the land. That little peak allowed him to know that 801 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: there was traffic coming. So when he has to drop, 802 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: the back is flaring out of the backfield and then 803 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: he has to get to the flat to cover them. Well, 804 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: there was a wide receiver in Trey Herndon that were there, 805 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: but he knew that he would have to get cleaned 806 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: by them to avoid them to get to the flat 807 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: to make that play. But to have the awareness of 808 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: getting clean by that to get to the flat to 809 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: make that tackle, which shows the athleticism I thought was 810 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: was great. A yeah, because when you when you add 811 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot of In fact, early in my 812 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: career there was a guy I'm not I'm not going 813 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: to name his name, but he had so much athleticism 814 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: and talent it was unbelievable, but he had no awareness 815 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: and so pretty limited. If the guy had awareness, he 816 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: i would have never gotten a starting job my rookie year. 817 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: And uh, but that's good to see out of out 818 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: of him, because that's typically something that a player doesn't 819 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: get until a few years down the roads. Well sometimes 820 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: they never get it, that's right, And I think that's 821 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: that's all part of the conversation we're having about Tavin 822 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: awareness Awareness awareness, right, I mean, you know, does he 823 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: have it? Well, we we got to see what else 824 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: on defense stood out. We're talking about Tavin that the 825 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: two penalties were bad, I mean bad. I mean that's 826 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: that's just being smart, and that that was not smart football. 827 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it's a reaction to the criticism 828 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: that he's been under or the pressure that he feels 829 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: because you know, he had the interview last week and 830 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: he was talking about how you know, you're gonna see 831 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: more of the real me and all this, and well, 832 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: I hope that's not more of the real hymn getting 833 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: the penalties. And it's a shame tony because one of 834 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: the penalties that he had had a great move, I 835 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: mean power move, grabs a guard, throws, pushes him back, 836 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: pulls him forward and does a pull rip swim and 837 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: gets by him and then he chases down the quarterback 838 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: and it hits him and it was clear it wasn't like, 839 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: oh I'm not sure the ball was gone. It was 840 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: right in front of him and he still that's when 841 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: he took like two or three steps and he and 842 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: he pushed Fitzgerald and he falls down the great Patrick 843 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: independalty Fitzpatrick and in the penalty comes out. I mean, 844 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: that's that was not a smart play. That that can't happen. 845 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: It's concern for me the depth of the defensive line 846 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: and at the three technique. No, Marcel Darius has been 847 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: out with an injury. Um, he I believe it. I 848 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: read the report today. Didn't practice today again, So he's 849 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: not gonna play this week, which is fine, you didn't 850 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: expect him anyways. But if Martin cel Darius isn't ready, 851 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: you're starting Tavin Bryant. And I don't know about Jeff, 852 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: but there's not a lot that I've seen this camp 853 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: that gives me a lot of confidence that the consistency's 854 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 1: gonna be there. Um with him starting as your three technique, 855 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: but he needs to be better. I mean, there's no 856 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: doubt in easy. How do you feel, I mean, Jeff, 857 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: if you're going to the season with Tavin Bryan's you're 858 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: starting three on this defense, I'm not I'm not freaked out, 859 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not happy. I can tell you that because 860 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: Marcel Darius is a very aware, big, strong guy, whereas 861 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: Tavin's still he's still trying to learn that stuff and 862 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: and to go with Tony said, hopefully this is something 863 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: that he does learn. Doug Maron asked about Tavin bryan 864 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: in and if he took a step back in the 865 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: game on Thursday night. Here's Duge response. You just gotta fight. 866 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing. And if you don't, 867 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you give up on yourself, will health 868 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: How's how's anyone else going to really? Um, you know, 869 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: keep you along. So you know, Tavin's you know, he's 870 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: he's had a set back. Um, he's probably disappointed, you know, 871 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: but hey, he's gotta you know, get his mind right 872 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: and go because there was some things he was doing 873 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: earlier that that we're really exciting and really would really 874 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: be able to help our football team. So uh, and 875 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: that's what he wants to do. So you know, strap 876 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: it up and get your ass out there and go play. 877 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: It doesn't really sound like it doesn't really sound like 878 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: a message from the head coach. It's like overly endorsing. 879 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: It's a far cry from what he said after the 880 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: first preseason game. I can tell you that sure he was. 881 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: He was talking ab up after that first game point, 882 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: which I thought was yes, thank you, but do you 883 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: have it? I just think you talk. We talked about 884 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: these things and talked about awareness. We talked about me 885 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: on the big plays. I mean, Tavin Bryant is a 886 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: maybe the strongest guy on the team, UM, A physical, tough, 887 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: all those things, but the instincts of awareness to make 888 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: plays we have not seen. And you talk to people 889 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: that watch him at Florida they said the same thing. 890 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 1: That was like the knock coming out right. I mean, Jeff, 891 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: you watched the tape. That was it. He was always close, 892 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: always close. And so now if that's without more subdarious um, 893 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's your starting three and your depth isn't 894 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: real good there. Let's come back. We'll touch on special 895 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: team standouts when we come back. Also still to come 896 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: the second hour, will get into the offensive line a 897 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: little bit more. We touched on that earlier. 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Jack's Village dot com. Yeah, 960 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: that's always a challenge, you know, um anytime a guy 961 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: that's basically you know, just playing special teams not getting 962 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: a lot of work on offense. Uh, you know, it's 963 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: a it's a balance that has to be you know, 964 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: gone over. And everybody's gotta understand how many players he 965 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: can get all those type of things, and you know 966 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: coach Maron does a great job of that. He he 967 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: communicates with us well. And this philosophy is he if 968 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: a guy is a starter and he's a good special 969 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: teams player, let's put him out there. Joe Dick camillis 970 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, talk to him today. You'll hear the 971 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: full interview coming up on the Public Stailgate Show. That's Thursday. Um, 972 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: let's the games that set and so we're on at 973 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: four with the Public Tailgate Show Thursday, ahead of the 974 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: Jags and the Falcons here at t i A bank Field. 975 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm good to visit with Joe, of course. Yeah, he's 976 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: he's uh, one of the one of the best special 977 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: teams coaches I think in the National Football League and 978 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: does a really good job and for thirty years. Well, 979 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: in this game that's coming up on Thursday night, there's 980 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of evaluation that's going to be going on 981 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: in his department to determine whether or not guys are 982 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna make the team or not. It's a lot of 983 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 1: chaos two for him. Yeah, Like those guys are gonna 984 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: ninety man roster. You probably have seventy that are available 985 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: for special teams. Yeah, and like, like, let's be honest, 986 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna have fifty three guys. They're keeping nine on 987 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: press squad at least half of those who come from 988 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: other teams. Let's say three or four. Let's say between 989 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: practice squad and the other. Um, you're gonna have eight 990 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: guys from other teams come. So that leaves you at 991 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: fifty five guys out of the ninety are gonna make 992 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 1: it that are out there right now. That's forty five 993 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be accountants and you know, and lawyers 994 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: and other things. I mean, but my point is not 995 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL come Saturday, and those are the guys 996 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: that Jody Camillis and the rest of this group has 997 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: to coach up. And special teams is always the hardest 998 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: because it's moving and it's a lot of rotation, and 999 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: it's not uh substitution like is in a rhythm like 1000 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: offensive defense, because you go out there for a series 1001 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: and you kind of have your play. It's like sudden 1002 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: all right, punting, like this guy's down or this guy's out, 1003 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: Like who okay, who's that gunner. There's gonna be a 1004 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: lot of tired guys in the game on Thursday night 1005 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: because of the amount of guys that won't play. Leave 1006 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: the guys that will be playing, they've got to play 1007 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: on defense or all offense, and they got to play 1008 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: on special teams. And that was Joe point in the 1009 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: clip of here coming back. How do you balance playing 1010 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: time on offense defense with special teams time to look 1011 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: in the last preseason game, you're balancing it with guys 1012 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: that aren't gonna be on your roster, and you're just going, hey, 1013 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: bub you're you're playing, you know, so get ready and 1014 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: drink lots of water this week leading up to the game. 1015 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: But there's probably probably four three or four guys that 1016 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: are going to be playing that are that need to 1017 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: have good performances on on special teams and their positional 1018 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: group to be able to make this roster. I mean, 1019 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: like maybe like a guy like c J Board or 1020 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: Trading Pride or Robinson the Corner. I think Josh Robinson, 1021 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: I think he's uh. I think there you don't think 1022 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: he has to do anything this week. I mean he's 1023 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: done everything every week to me for me, I mean, 1024 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: so for me, I wouldn't. I would. I don't need 1025 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: anything to anything seen from him. And it's not like 1026 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: he's a He's been doing it for time and he 1027 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 1: gets it. I would probably consider sitting him just because, 1028 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you didn't have depth at that corner 1029 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: defensive back position, I would consider playing him. But I 1030 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: think he got enough depth there to where if he's 1031 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster, that you keep him because 1032 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 1: he's shown to me that he can play special teams, 1033 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: he can play safety, and he can play corner, and 1034 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: that versatility it has, has a lot of value when 1035 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 1: you're talking about making the decision on a guy who's 1036 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: gonna make a final roster spot. Much like when we 1037 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: were in Baltimore, who's that big fullback slash defensive tackle 1038 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: or one card and he was good full back? Now 1039 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: not recording me, I can't remember his name, but I'll 1040 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: find it out. But anyway, a guy like that that 1041 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,959 Speaker 1: can play offense and defense and then play him both 1042 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: really pretty well and special teams lock. It's for example, 1043 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: if Terrell Prior could play special teams and play it 1044 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: well like a two twenty eight pound linebacker you might 1045 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: expect to play. So in other words, off Troull Prior, 1046 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: we could use his size or however how much he ways. 1047 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 1: He might be too forty for all I know speed. 1048 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: But if he could play good special teams, Troull Prior 1049 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: would play as long as he wanted to in the 1050 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: National Football League. But he doesn't play special teams. Is 1051 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: he gonna make it? No? Is? What's the latest with 1052 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: his injury? He had the hammy coming out of the game. 1053 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: It's right. Did he practice today? No? No, I don't 1054 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: think he did. I don't know if he was out today. 1055 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they injured. That's probably where 1056 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up. Because here's the thing. How much 1057 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: did you see of him all preseason until last week? 1058 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: What's the number one thing you got to be as 1059 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: a player? That's correct? So hey, coming up, it's time 1060 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: to party like it's Thursday for a throwback Thursday, August 1061 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: twenty nine, So Jack's hosts the Falcons. My tickets today 1062 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: and get an exclusive nineties fan pack. Is that a fan? 1063 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: And right now it's a Fannie Pack. There's a scrunching 1064 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: in there and a jag slap bracelet as well. Were 1065 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: you a Fannie Pack guy growing up? 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Welcome back Second 1125 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: hour Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick Tony was selly 1126 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 1: per usual and Jeff Flagaman in with us. I'm here 1127 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: filling in for Pete Prisco tonight. Pete is not in 1128 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: South Florida. He is in Kansas City, hammering barbecue and 1129 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: chasing a quarterback around hammering barbecue. So he'll be back 1130 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: with us next week, which I mean he's like eating 1131 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot of barbecues. Yes, yes, that's what that is. So, um, 1132 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: well he'll be back with us. Logs. Great to have you. 1133 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Good to be here, um, good to be anywhere, good 1134 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: to be right point. That's it's just good to be anywhere. 1135 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: That's what Keith Richards said at the concert the other Um, 1136 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: so all right, here we go, uh, second hour of 1137 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Are coming up, we'll go around the National 1138 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: Football League. We'll touch on the a f C South, 1139 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: not only Andrew Luck, but some other storylines of other 1140 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: teams on the division. The last a week or so, 1141 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 1: it's been a busy week in the a f C South. 1142 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: Let's continue our offensive line conversation. We touched on this 1143 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 1: group earlier and kind of talked about the game and 1144 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson snaps in the battle at right garden. All 1145 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: let's I want to say one more thing about Camer Robinson. Yes, 1146 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 1: he's a still a young player who really has played 1147 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: one year. Right in the game and a half, Yeah, 1148 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: not half a game. It was the first quarter he 1149 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: got hurt. Um, how do you feel about him coming 1150 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: back and you know, starting sixteen games off the a 1151 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: c L after having six plays in the preseason. Uh, 1152 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm not very comfortable with it. I was thinking the 1153 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: same thing now, I think camp My position of Cam's 1154 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: ever changed. I think he's immensely talented. I love his nastiness, 1155 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 1: he's physical, he's tough. I just think his footwork has 1156 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: been just really average at best and what gets him 1157 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: in trouble And Um, I'm not gonna make any judgments 1158 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: from the six plays we saw, but it wasn't good. 1159 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: But that's okay, I mean, coming back from a c L, 1160 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: just just beat out there. Yeah, just yeah. I'm like, 1161 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to be critical. Really he's working hard, 1162 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 1: but that has to get better, and his conditioning is 1163 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: not going to be where it needs to be. I mean, 1164 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I've I've done it playing 1165 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: temporary teen plays in the preseason coming off in a 1166 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: c L and I was seven and a half months 1167 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: and his is gonna be almost eleven um. But you're 1168 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: the for that first few you're like that first game 1169 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: sucking wind. I mean it's I mean, by the way, 1170 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: you're playing against a pretty damn good player in Frank Clark. 1171 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,479 Speaker 1: He's pretty good. Yeah, and so I'm I'm a little 1172 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: worried about that. H I think that's interesting. I think 1173 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: now let me I'll talk about this, and we'll talk 1174 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: about this to falling week JP with Pete and Jeff 1175 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: and I will talk about on Thursday Night show. Leading 1176 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: up to the game. I think if you're John D. Philippo, 1177 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: you have the game plan for that. I mean, that's 1178 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: a game plan and then and you better hope you 1179 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: got your rookie, right, a rookie on the other side. Okay, 1180 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: right now, who are you more confident in? BA? I'm 1181 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: more confident in Juan Taylor's past protection. My point is 1182 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: you have to pick one. You have to get like, 1183 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: if you want to actually sing guys out in the 1184 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: past route, you gotta pick one. Now. The one good 1185 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: thing is if you watch Philly in the past, and 1186 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: you watch a lot of teams, and we didn't do 1187 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: it for very much in the past. We did at times. 1188 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: I think John d Footballill do a good job of 1189 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: chipping on the way out with tight ends, formationing the 1190 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: defense to help his tackles if they're struggling. And you 1191 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: can do that on both sides, but as far as 1192 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: like really helping and really game planning, you'd like don't 1193 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: have to do it on one side of the offensive line. 1194 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to choose Cam Robinson early, just 1195 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: because he's coming off as a c L and as 1196 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this first quarter of the season, 1197 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, we break it down the quarters at first 1198 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: four games. Cam Robinson's gonna be work in progress, and 1199 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: I just want to set expectations if everyone listening, and 1200 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: that's normal he's a young player. Not being critical, he's 1201 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: a young player. Come up with a c L who 1202 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: hasn't a lot of reps with with that work in progress. 1203 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: We were just talking during a break about making the 1204 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 1: cuts on this offensive line. Let's assume that we have 1205 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: eight spots open. Okay, eight spots maybe nine, eight for sure. 1206 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: And here and here's why I say, Hey, don't you 1207 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: want to keep one extra guy, maybe a tackle to 1208 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: help out if you need help with that tackle position. Well, 1209 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: depending on the depth, sometimes you'll keep nine. Absolutely. But 1210 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: here's here's why I say that is because the way 1211 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: he had a hamstring just today. Okay, um, do you 1212 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: expect him back? Yes? Maybe, Um, but you would like 1213 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: to have since Will Richardson is really no longer a 1214 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,919 Speaker 1: tackle now he's competing that guard, do you now want 1215 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: to have a backup tackle? So, and I know that 1216 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Josh Wells, we haven't seen him get a lot of 1217 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason. Leonard Wester has not been great 1218 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Been Elana was brought in Layton camp, 1219 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: but Wester is clearly the number is clearly guy the 1220 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: second tackle. Let me ask you this, Tony, I'm just 1221 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: telling you what by the depth charts and playing time. 1222 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it would you would you would 1223 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: he be a part of you would not listen? We 1224 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: can all agree on these ones right here, which is 1225 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: our starters. Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lender, A J 1226 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Can and Will Richardson will put both of them in there. 1227 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: So that's five cedrical boy he is six and Juwan 1228 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Taylor you're starting right tackle is seven? Seven? Uh one Shatle. 1229 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: I'll say this, Shatley, I thought was gonna be on 1230 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 1: his way out, but I think you're going anywhere. I 1231 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: don't think. I think he's back. You can snap, you 1232 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: can play guards. I've got eight right there. Well. The 1233 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: reason why I say Shatley I think is a lock 1234 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 1: is number one. Uh. Brandon Lender has not been able 1235 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: to play sixteen games and in quite some time. So 1236 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to have a guy that can start at center. 1237 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: He's ever done it? Maybe not, but you want to 1238 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: have a guy that can start at center weekend a 1239 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: week out, and Tyler Shatley has proven that he can 1240 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: do that. A J. Cann is taken snap apps, I 1241 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 1: would feel more comfortable with a J. Cannon the role 1242 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: if he's not starting, He's gonna be a swing guy 1243 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: for games. What about McDermott, good question. He's played well 1244 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: in the preseason, hasn't practiced great, good question, And hasn't 1245 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: played much in the preseason. But when he has, he's 1246 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: done pretty good out there. Yeah, he's done pretty good job. 1247 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: But would wouldn't you want to have another tackle of 1248 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,919 Speaker 1: because then Brandon Thomas has been talked a little bit 1249 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: about by the coaching staff. They kind of like him. 1250 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: Darnal Green for a while was hot and he's probably 1251 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: a practice a practice squad guy, anybody as far as 1252 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: the active roster, Yeah, no, Donnelle Green is not going 1253 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: to make the active roster. He's he's a practice squad guy. 1254 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: He was a tackle at Minnesota and now they've moved 1255 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: him into guard. He is a practice squad type of guy. 1256 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: We ask you this, if you know, if there's the 1257 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: concern about Cam that you just talked about, you know, 1258 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: he's hurt in a Blaze's banged up week one. Still, 1259 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,919 Speaker 1: that's my point. Do you keep nine now going into 1260 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: the season, Wells as an extra guy or West or 1261 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: whoever they like, somebody might keep both. Let me ask 1262 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you just because bodies we got eight. If you had, 1263 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: if you could keep nine, Tony bull Sell, who would 1264 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: you want to have? Is your nine? And we're assuming 1265 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lendner, Tyler Shatley, A J. Camwell, Richardson, 1266 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Cedricoboyhey and Joan Taylor? Are your eight? All right? If 1267 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: you're asking me, because I'm saying, who can if I 1268 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: have to get someone to go play left tackle for 1269 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 1: one game to get me, you're saying is if you 1270 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,439 Speaker 1: had nine roster I'm thinking about it, then I would 1271 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 1: right now. And I know this is not the view 1272 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff. And I only know this because 1273 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: based on playing time is I would pick Welles before 1274 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I put Wester. So would I. But if you look 1275 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: at what the uh George Warhop, the offensive line coach, 1276 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and Doug Morone and how they've structured the playing time 1277 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: in the preseason, Western is clearly ahead of Josh Wales. 1278 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't see it now. I don't watch every practice. 1279 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm not in the meetings. I don't know just from 1280 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 1: the games, just from the game stuff it I'm watching 1281 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 1: and practice the practices I've seen, I think Wells I'd 1282 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable with Wells because the athletic ability Western 1283 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: is more powerful, no doubt about it. But movement he 1284 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 1: struggles with. And he guys get on the edge really fast. 1285 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: We saw it on the interception play at the holding 1286 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: to save Nick Foles. He almost died Nick well Yeah, 1287 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: West was the greatest penalty I've ever seen anyone commit 1288 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: because Nick Foles was about to get hammered. And so 1289 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,600 Speaker 1: I would feel better about Wells because I think you 1290 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: have an issue right now at left tackle. Juwan Taylor 1291 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: is not a left tackle, never played it. He's the 1292 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: right tackle. I think he played a little bit of 1293 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: it in Florida, is early, in his very early. I 1294 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 1: know he's the right tackle I'm saying I don't. I 1295 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 1: think it's just like spot duty, um, where he is hurt. 1296 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Way he struggled. I mean both tackles, especially at left tackle. 1297 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 1: We saw struggle against the Eagles. How bad is the hamstring? 1298 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't even know how bad practice 1299 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: And say, um, will Richardson is a right tackle. What 1300 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But if he had to play tackle, he 1301 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: could play right tackle for you, because that was the 1302 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: idea when it came in. But he's gonna I mean, 1303 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm as I'm thinking through these scenarios and like, who's 1304 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna play left tackle on the roster? Well ways hurt 1305 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 1: Jewan Taylor is not he's your right tackle. Will Richardson 1306 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,240 Speaker 1: is a right tackle. I don't think he's ever even 1307 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: played left tackle and he's probably starting right guard. Left. 1308 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Who's left it? You got? You got the choice of 1309 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 1: really three guys wester Well wester Wells or Alana and 1310 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the left or if if there's a 1311 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: guy on waiver wires there's not left left tackle, let 1312 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 1: me say this, left tackles, don't put it this. You 1313 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 1: know you're picking up a Lana or wester if you 1314 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: were to keep Wells if you're another team, probably not 1315 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: not unless it was dire straits, yeah, dire straits or 1316 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: desperate Yeah, I think it's a call for desperate measures, 1317 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 1: you know. But it's right, Logs. We'll get your mic 1318 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,559 Speaker 1: back on in just a moment here. These are perfect, 1319 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: just got better here, but that it's it's an interesting conversation. 1320 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,560 Speaker 1: Really can go down to the wire here an opening day. 1321 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: It's a concern and who's up and down and healthy 1322 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: and not It is a real concert. The left tackle 1323 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 1: position has been a concern of mine all camp. It 1324 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 1: continues to be a concern. And I'm not and if 1325 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 1: Cam Robinsons listen to this, this this has nothing to do 1326 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,639 Speaker 1: with whether I think Cam Robinson is a good player 1327 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 1: or not. He's a young player. Come off in a 1328 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: c L in the first in the first few games, 1329 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be it. It's gonna be a bat. He's 1330 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: af the battle and it's not gonna be easy, and 1331 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: he knows it. And that's okay. He's a competitor. But 1332 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 1: right now, you don't have an answer if something were 1333 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: to happen to Cam Robinson and answer that, you're really 1334 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 1: unless unless he's healthy, then he's the guy. Then he's 1335 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the guy, and you can and you can listen away. 1336 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: As far as backup tackles, that's a good he's a 1337 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: good solution in this league is having a guy like 1338 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm not I don't 1339 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: want them to start. I came to start, but um, 1340 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to watch and and we'll talk about 1341 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: all week leading up to the Kansas City game. But 1342 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's something that John d Felippo 1343 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: is gonna have to and that offensive staff is gonna 1344 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: have the game playing for Frank Frank Clark coming to town. 1345 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Logan was back with us, no welcome back anywhere. 1346 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: How did it become my issue because he's always passing 1347 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: the buck. I have nothing you blame that you are, 1348 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 1: that you are the biggest finger pointer, Like what a 1349 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: bad teammate. I mean just points of thing. I don't 1350 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 1: know how you doing on the other shows, Jeff, but 1351 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 1: on this show, we don't point the finger. I take 1352 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: a yell at show responsibility for our action. I don't 1353 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 1: know about that. Wow, that's a fact. It's not a fact. 1354 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: I did nothing. This chord right here, Okay, see that 1355 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 1: one right there. Yeah, that'll see your big foot right there. 1356 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 1: That chord is attached to this right here, and you're 1357 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: pulling it away. I'm not pulling anything away, Thank you 1358 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 1: very much. We're back in a moment trying to figure this. 1359 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was bad Pete. I thought it was 1360 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 1: bad with Pete on this show, Jeff is so much worse. 1361 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: We were on a good run. Bad teammate, point the finger. 1362 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 1: You know what you do when you Mike goes out 1363 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 1: just suck it up and figure it out. See everyone 1364 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: sees it wright till the break you'll point another finger 1365 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: at him, probably to back. In a moment, we'll delve 1366 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: into Doug Marone's thoughts about this week, in particular, he 1367 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: hates it spoil the teas we'll hear from the head 1368 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 1: coach coming up its Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1369 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Digital Network. 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You know, obviously everyone's fighting for 1422 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 1: a job, whether it's you know here or somewhere else possibly. Um, 1423 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 1: everyone's just trying to have their best before. You're not 1424 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 1: trying to stress yourself out with all these are am 1425 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,640 Speaker 1: I gonna make the team and blah blah blah um. 1426 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you just gotta put 1427 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: your your your best self on tape. Um. If if 1428 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 1: you're a better you're good fit for this team, then 1429 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 1: you know you'll end up with this team. But if 1430 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 1: you belong on another team, another scheme, then so be it. 1431 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Heally and coup in the locker room. Yesterday, Welcome Back 1432 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour that acts of launch a new mobile 1433 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: app and secure digital ticketing. The only new official Jacksonville 1434 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars app features exclusive content, live game streaming, game day alerts, 1435 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: and much more. Look for Secure digital ticketing this Thursday. 1436 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 1: I mean, screenshots of tickets are no longer allowed this year, 1437 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 1: so download or update the official Jacksonville Jaguars Apple on 1438 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 1: Apple and Android devices. That's coming up Thursday night, seven 1439 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: o'clock kickoff time for the Jags and the Falcons at 1440 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,680 Speaker 1: t I A bank Field Elien who interesting thoughts going 1441 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 1: around the locker room yesterday and kind of got some 1442 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,960 Speaker 1: different perspectives on what this week holds. And Elie's one 1443 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 1: of him. He's been around here now for a couple 1444 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: of years. Um. Another one was McBride, the wide receiver 1445 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: who's kind of on the bubble, but he's a fourth 1446 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 1: year player. He's been around the league and he kind 1447 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 1: of understands what this week is about. And if you 1448 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: if you play against they get it again what this 1449 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 1: week is about, and how to handle the rookies o JP. 1450 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: They don't know what it's about. No, they don't know 1451 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: what it's a weird feeling in the in the just 1452 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: walking around the locker room again today. Just it's because 1453 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 1: next week after, I mean, what thirty the guys are gone. 1454 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: It was always amazing to me when when we would 1455 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 1: have roster cuts, it was it was more of a 1456 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 1: step system than what it is today, because you went 1457 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: we went from ninety to seventy five and then down 1458 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 1: to fifty three and then they made it now just 1459 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,759 Speaker 1: one cut so that they would have more players available 1460 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: to play in the last preseason game. It was only 1461 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 1: a few years ago they changed that, and uh, I 1462 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 1: just remember when we went from seventy five down to 1463 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,599 Speaker 1: fifty three. I mean it was it was a big change. 1464 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 1: And uh when you came back in the locker room 1465 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, is this all that's on our team now? 1466 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, because the numbers all of a sudden shrinks 1467 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: so dramatically, and you and it. It is kind of hard. 1468 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 1: The first couple of days is kind of hard, but 1469 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 1: you really don't want to waste much time thinking about 1470 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,560 Speaker 1: it because look, you gotta you got a game that 1471 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,640 Speaker 1: counts coming up in a week. So so it's a 1472 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 1: lot different. But you know, a guy like Eli Elienko, 1473 01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's rightfully taking the right approach because as 1474 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: he's a bubble guy, and he's a guy that you 1475 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: now have a draft pick that was drafted in Dontevious 1476 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Russell from Auburn in the seventh round and has been 1477 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's shown mobility, he shows that he's got 1478 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 1: some pass for us, he's got sized like Elienko, And 1479 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a tough decision between one of 1480 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,560 Speaker 1: those two guys and Tony. I think it's gonna be 1481 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 1: one or the other, and I think it's gonna be Russell. 1482 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 1: Russell is more athletic, moves better. Elian, who's really a 1483 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 1: two gap type of player, Um would be great in 1484 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 1: the three or four as a nose good football player. 1485 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 1: Taking nothing away from him, but I just think the 1486 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: athletic ability of Russell is probably gonna give him a 1487 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,640 Speaker 1: little bit of the edge, you know. It did to 1488 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 1: pick up on Jeff was saying about cut day, and 1489 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Jeff and I are always in a different situation, I mean, 1490 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: being high draft picks and then you know, you don't 1491 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: worry about that kind of stuff. But what I found 1492 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,559 Speaker 1: interesting is it affects everybody because your friends, I mean, 1493 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 1: and it it really the big impact is the closer 1494 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,360 Speaker 1: you like your position group, because that's who you're really 1495 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 1: close to camp. I mean, not that you're close to 1496 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 1: other guys. When you're friends with the defensive lineman, you hang, 1497 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you eat together maybe, and you have your 1498 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 1: group of you know, the click whatever. There's clicks within 1499 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: every organization and everything else, but you really become close 1500 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: with the guys that you're in the meetings with all 1501 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: the time, especially in the old days when you're practicing 1502 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,160 Speaker 1: twice a day and you're at meeting still ten ten 1503 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 1: thirty at night, and so you spend a lot of 1504 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 1: time during camp and then all of a sudden, these 1505 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 1: are guys that get cut and they're your friends. And 1506 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,480 Speaker 1: that's the difficult part because you know it greatly impacts 1507 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: their lives. Some of them have families and wives and 1508 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 1: they're you know, trying to figure out, you know, trying 1509 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: to get on somewhere else, or they need to go 1510 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 1: onto the next stage of their career, which is all 1511 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 1: these different things that go into it and then the 1512 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 1: next moment. So that's a that's a tough weekend because 1513 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to figure out what's going with 1514 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 1: your friends and your phone calls and everything else. But 1515 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 1: then you show up the week work Monday and you 1516 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: look around like, okay, this is our team. Let's go 1517 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 1: to work. Here come the chiefs a town on next Sunday. 1518 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,599 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like like having no heart 1519 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,759 Speaker 1: or no emotion, but literally I remember coming in Monday 1520 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: and you almost forget about everyone else that's not there. 1521 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 1: It's no different, and it happens all the time. We're 1522 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 1: talking about Andrew Luck earlier. When you're hurt as a 1523 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,240 Speaker 1: hurt player, like you're not there, You're not a part. 1524 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,639 Speaker 1: It's like we're going to battle these guys. They're still 1525 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: going to tee it up at one o'clock on Sundays. 1526 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 1: It's like, this is what we're doing. And so it's 1527 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 1: a really tough emotional weekend for a lot of guys, 1528 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: and I think for the whole team because you have friends, 1529 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: but then come Monday, it's all forgotten about. And head 1530 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 1: coach Doug Morone has a little bit of a different 1531 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: perspective on this. He's been a bubble player when he 1532 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 1: was a player in the National Football League and this 1533 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 1: one kind of cuts close to home. It's a challenge 1534 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 1: of you know, how much you want to you know, 1535 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 1: get ahead, you can get ready for your opening game. 1536 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:55,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's a challenge of making sure you do 1537 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the right thing for the people that are still trying 1538 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,040 Speaker 1: to make the team. You know, they're obviously always a 1539 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 1: couple of spots left. Uh, but then it's tough because 1540 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,799 Speaker 1: you know I probably can um you guys know, relate 1541 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,760 Speaker 1: to the anxiety. You know, with a lot of the 1542 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 1: players that have been giving us everything they had and 1543 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, make it in the NFL, 1544 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 1: and um, you know, in a couple of days and 1545 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 1: everybody's life changes. So those are the things that are 1546 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 1: tough about this week, he said coach Doug Marone, and 1547 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,559 Speaker 1: that you know, he says something similar to that every 1548 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 1: year in this week, at the start of this week 1549 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 1: or around this time frame. That that's a real thing 1550 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 1: for him. I mean, you know, he has to sit 1551 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,200 Speaker 1: across the table and tell a guy that he's not 1552 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,840 Speaker 1: good enough for this football team. Well, he he wants 1553 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 1: to have a conversation with each player, and he does, 1554 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,960 Speaker 1: and he remembered as a player pretty much, he said this, 1555 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 1: at least he remembers almost every word that was told 1556 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,640 Speaker 1: to him in that situation. So he wants that to 1557 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: be a um something to remember and as positive as 1558 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 1: it can be in that moment, because it's not as 1559 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 1: a players. As a player, if you're gonna get cut, 1560 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 1: you're like, dude, just tell me I'm cutting, then let 1561 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 1: me out of here. Yeah, I'm sure that that's kind 1562 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,559 Speaker 1: of the emotion there. But as yea, I wouldn't want 1563 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 1: the niceties. Yeah, I wouldn't I would like that he'll 1564 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 1: shoot you straight. I'm not saying I'm not saying nothing 1565 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 1: about what saying. I just like, just if I'm kind, 1566 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 1: I'm cut unless you can help me get onto another team. Yeah, 1567 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 1: I waste of my time. There's a lot of people 1568 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: involved in that decision making process. And I don't know 1569 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 1: how the Jaguars do it because you know, every team, 1570 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,800 Speaker 1: going back to my first year in the league, I 1571 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 1: remember we had a turk. You know, he was the 1572 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 1: hatchet man, you know that that would walk around the 1573 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 1: hallways or the locker room and and basically grab guys 1574 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 1: or the hotel if we were staying at a hotel, 1575 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, knock on your door and say hey, you know, 1576 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,759 Speaker 1: bring your playbook and come on, and you're like, nobody 1577 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 1: ever want to see it. Some people would hide from 1578 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 1: that guy. Uh, he's gonna stop him from getting cut. Yeah, 1579 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 1: exactly as some guys that did hide, they literally hid. 1580 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,640 Speaker 1: They couldn't find it. But we gotta remember back and 1581 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: back then we didn't have they can't cut me. They 1582 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,479 Speaker 1: can actually remember the rams hard knocks. Here. It was 1583 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,360 Speaker 1: the strength coach who was the guy. He would get 1584 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 1: the text or the email and he'd have to go 1585 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: up in the weight room. Man, I wouldn't want to 1586 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,599 Speaker 1: do I wouldn't want to do that. That's tough. It's 1587 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 1: gotta be tough, right I just I mean, that's that's 1588 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,400 Speaker 1: not that's not cool. If you if you've got that job. 1589 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes like it's it can be a younger kind of 1590 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: intern type guy. A second, it's not that it's not cool. 1591 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: It's just a tough who used to do it back 1592 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,560 Speaker 1: in the early days. Less who's now the g M 1593 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 1: and l A about that he used to do. He 1594 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: used to be here. He wouldn't do it. He'd come 1595 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,760 Speaker 1: grab the guys, say come exactly. But he was the guy. 1596 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 1: But he was the one who cut everybody. Sure, but 1597 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: Tom wouldn't the one going to the matt If I 1598 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 1: remember those two guys, grab the guys. They would come 1599 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 1: and get you and then take you down to see Tom. 1600 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 1: Or A lot of times what would happen is because 1601 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: it was in the weekend. You get a phone calls 1602 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 1: were the last cuts were done, you know, Saturday and Sunday. 1603 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 1: We're Friday and Saturday. After the last preseason games. It 1604 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 1: was Thursday nights sometimes a Friday game back then and 1605 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 1: everyone who have off, and so we'd all be at 1606 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 1: home getting ready because we knew the season was getting 1607 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: ready to start, and everyone else would be sitting there 1608 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,680 Speaker 1: waiting to buy the phone, hoping they weren't getting a 1609 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 1: phone call. Because if you've got a phone call, you 1610 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta come in again. I remember one 1611 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: of the worst cuts I've ever seen, timing wise, Tonty, 1612 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 1: remember this, Uh, in Denver, we were able to sign 1613 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: Clyde Simmons. So Clyde literally got cut from Arizona. So 1614 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: we're picking them up, so they're flying him into Denver. Well, 1615 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 1: we have to let somebody go because our roster is 1616 01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 1: maxed out at ninety or whatever. So they literally his 1617 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 1: last preseason game, Yeah, seventy five. So they literally call 1618 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 1: Corey Mayfield. They go to his hotel room, knock on 1619 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 1: his door and say, uh, get your bag packed, you're 1620 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,599 Speaker 1: going home. So from the hotel, here's a guy that's 1621 01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 1: getting ready to play a preseason game, you know, getting 1622 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,280 Speaker 1: his mind right. It's the day of the game. I 1623 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 1: think it was the day of the game, and they 1624 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 1: knock on his door, send him home on a commercial, which, 1625 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,559 Speaker 1: by the way, is the right decisions. Clyde Simmons. Clyde 1626 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 1: Simmons helped us win a lot of games. He did 1627 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 1: whatever happened to him. The other guy, Corey Mayfield, I 1628 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if he caught on anywhere 1629 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 1: else or what. But he's a great guy, great guy. 1630 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Always had a kind of an upbeat personality. You know, good, 1631 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 1: good dude. How about that that that would be a 1632 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,679 Speaker 1: bad one. I think you're you're hoping to make the team. 1633 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 1: You're in the hotel, you're ready to play here. If 1634 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: they were looking for one guy to cut to make 1635 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,400 Speaker 1: room for for Clyde Simmons, and it's you, you weren't 1636 01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,560 Speaker 1: making the team anyway, and so what it really just 1637 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 1: saved him, coy Corey might have made he because he 1638 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 1: he was on our team. Like, if you're gonna have 1639 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: a chance to make it and they're looking to cut 1640 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 1: somebody because they had to open up one spot, if 1641 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 1: you're the guy, yeah you're probably gone tomorrow. Yeah you 1642 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 1: were gone. Yeah that was but that was kind of crazy. 1643 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 1: Corey Mayfield had a career in the Arena Football League 1644 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 1: after the Jaguars. In fact, yeah, he was and ninety 1645 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: two in the offseason Buccaneers and two Jags, and he 1646 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,559 Speaker 1: was with US one year and then Grand Rapids, Orlando, 1647 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Soul in the Dallas Desperadoes until like oh five, 1648 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 1: like he played a long Good for him, good guy. 1649 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,240 Speaker 1: Don't miss the kickoff to college football, well, the week 1650 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 1: one kickoff to college football. This Saturday, the Florida State 1651 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 1: Seminoles meet the Boise State Broncos. 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You know, 1720 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 1: he's a guy who you know, just you know, you 1721 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 1: do have to be a right guy. That's Clais Campbell 1722 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 1: in the locker room this week, discussing Andrew Luck and 1723 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 1: the retirement of the Colts quarterback. Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, 1724 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 1: j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli as usual, Pete Briscoe out 1725 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:45,080 Speaker 1: tonight in Kansas City. So Jeff Lockerman sits in. Yeah, yes, 1726 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,280 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us tonight. I didn't have to have 1727 01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,640 Speaker 1: the different share either. Well that's good. I gave it 1728 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 1: my seat for you. I'm a team player. I don't 1729 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:59,200 Speaker 1: point fingers like someone else does. Wow, um, let's continue. Goodness, 1730 01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,479 Speaker 1: our conver say we started the show tonight with the 1731 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,439 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck news accord. If I would have to like 1732 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,439 Speaker 1: point out how many times Bisselli has pointed the finger 1733 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 1: on the radio airwaves, JP, Do I ever blame you 1734 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,800 Speaker 1: all the time? Literally all the time? Yes, call up 1735 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 1: Frank and all the time any times your fingers pointed 1736 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 1: at him. Never let's continue, it's always behind his back. 1737 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: I thought I was doing behind your back too. I 1738 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,479 Speaker 1: can't you sit here to my face. Yes, Um Andrew 1739 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,519 Speaker 1: luck news obviously the big news of the FC South, 1740 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,719 Speaker 1: but not the only thing going on in the division 1741 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,799 Speaker 1: this week. Lamar Miller tores a c L in Houston. 1742 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,440 Speaker 1: He's done for the season, and then Taylor Juan officially 1743 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: suspended the four games for the violation of the performance 1744 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 1: enhancing substance policy. He had announced it earlier himself. It 1745 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 1: became official just a few days ago in Tennessee. It 1746 01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,880 Speaker 1: was just a few of the headlines in the NFC South. Well, 1747 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:03,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. They traded for Duke Johnson right of the 1748 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown, so he's gonna be able to step in 1749 01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 1: right away. The interesting thing about the Colts, the last 1750 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 1: time that we saw Jacoby Brissette play at an extended 1751 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 1: amount of time, it was when they traded for him 1752 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 1: at the last second seen and Tony loves him, thinks 1753 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,400 Speaker 1: he's a franchise type quarterback. But now we're gonna actually 1754 01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,080 Speaker 1: get an idea whether or not he is your little 1755 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,560 Speaker 1: avert franchise quarterback. No, I did not. I said I 1756 01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,160 Speaker 1: liked Jacobe Percette. I think he was a good trade 1757 01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 1: back then because they need them. I've never said he's 1758 01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,599 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Ever, I said he I like him, 1759 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,360 Speaker 1: I like the trade. I think he has a chance 1760 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 1: to be a franchise quarterback. I don't think. I never 1761 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 1: said he was a franchise quar and I stand by that. 1762 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,320 Speaker 1: I think he has an opportunity. The guy was thrown 1763 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 1: in won four games not knowing the playbook on a 1764 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: bad roster that was built by our GM friend that 1765 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,519 Speaker 1: was Grigson. That was terrible. So one of the reasons Andrew, look, 1766 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,200 Speaker 1: I hurt so much. He got pounded all the time. 1767 01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 1: They didn't build up front. Chris Ballard's a He's doing 1768 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,559 Speaker 1: a really good, really good job. He has town around him, 1769 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 1: He's a above average offensive line, better defense, got weapons, 1770 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 1: and he has now been in the system for a 1771 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 1: whole year. I think he has a chance for two 1772 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,880 Speaker 1: years now, no one year, because Frank Wright's only been 1773 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,519 Speaker 1: there year. Well yeah, Frank's but I mean he's been 1774 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 1: as as It'll be interesting to see how he plays. 1775 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 1: I think he has opportunity. I like him, I love 1776 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,720 Speaker 1: the trade when they did it, and I think he 1777 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 1: has a chance. How about I'm just gonna ask this 1778 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 1: off the cuff, um, your a FC South Power rankings 1779 01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:44,640 Speaker 1: right now, gotta change the culture now. For to me, 1780 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,559 Speaker 1: even with even with all the things you just said 1781 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,800 Speaker 1: about it, they're still okay. You know. Uh, I would 1782 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 1: say Titans are three and football coin between the Jags 1783 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,360 Speaker 1: and the Texans. Mm hmm. But your luck and I 1784 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,720 Speaker 1: might flip the Colts in the Titans. Tell me you're 1785 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 1: ranking again, gonna flip it. I'm gonna change it Titans 1786 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,720 Speaker 1: for Colts three, and then flip a coin between the 1787 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:16,840 Speaker 1: Jags and the Texas. I'd be the same, right, that's fair. 1788 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,760 Speaker 1: I think the losing luck change. I would have put 1789 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:25,120 Speaker 1: the healthy Andrew lucky would have put them one into 1790 01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,240 Speaker 1: division pre See. Let me just ranking was just you know, 1791 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't matter in the grand scheme that they're 1792 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 1: just curious. But that's a that's a pretty big deal. Now. 1793 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 1: And then you also factor in the loss of a 1794 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,479 Speaker 1: running back in Houston, that's not as big a deal. No, no, no, no, 1795 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,280 Speaker 1: there's big quarterback, but he's but he's he's a guy, 1796 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:45,680 Speaker 1: right and they we're gonna have kind of a two 1797 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,960 Speaker 1: headed running It's a rushing attack behind an offensive line 1798 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 1: that's not very good. That takes pressure off of them 1799 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 1: trying to protect their quarterback. That's that's kind of a 1800 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 1: big deal. It's not like a quarterback, but it's but 1801 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,200 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Still the starting running back listen 1802 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,200 Speaker 1: Lamar Lamar Miller at best was the third most important person, 1803 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean third DeShawn the DeShawn Watson the quarterback and 1804 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,720 Speaker 1: uh Hopkins the receiver. I mean if they lost one 1805 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 1: of those two, I'd be concerned clowning in in there. 1806 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:17,639 Speaker 1: Yet either he's not it's a big one is not signed. 1807 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:21,559 Speaker 1: So and there's been talk about maybe a trade. Could 1808 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,559 Speaker 1: could that happen for Trent Williams, who is the unhappy 1809 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins left tackle. Well the Skins say they're not 1810 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 1: getting rid of him. They want him too. Everybody, Okay, Prices. 1811 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 1: Here's how you notice it's BS is because the rumor 1812 01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 1: was put out that the Patriots offered a future one 1813 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 1: and that they turned it down. Well, there was later 1814 01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,000 Speaker 1: that came out that wasn't true. It wasn't true from 1815 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots standpoint, but the Redskins probably put it out 1816 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,320 Speaker 1: there just so that they could broadcast in an indirect 1817 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 1: way open for business. Are I don't have anything against 1818 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 1: I just think that the way they operate as a joke. 1819 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 1: Although if I have the Texans, I make the phone 1820 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,280 Speaker 1: call because I don't think they're gonna be a Clowney 1821 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:15,160 Speaker 1: in They're not gonna pay him if they get Trent Williams, 1822 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,640 Speaker 1: who's had a bunch of injuries. That the perfect thing 1823 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,280 Speaker 1: that Dan Snyder would do, though, yeah, is to sign 1824 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Clowney. What do you think you like that? Trade? 1825 01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,880 Speaker 1: That a guest joining us at the studio unnamed guests? 1826 01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,000 Speaker 1: Uh in and out quickly? Do you have it? Though? 1827 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,280 Speaker 1: The AFC South just kind of some big headlines over 1828 01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:36,680 Speaker 1: the last two, three four. The Texans have issues, though 1829 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't think the texts 1830 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,759 Speaker 1: are great up front, But quarterback, if the best receiver 1831 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 1: maybe in football, defense is gonna be good. It does. 1832 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,439 Speaker 1: If they don't I'm Clowney, it takes him a notch down. 1833 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 1: If Clowney doesn't get in there, doesn't show up. I 1834 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,639 Speaker 1: would put Jags one because I think the defense is insane. 1835 01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 1: He is so disruptive on defense. He is now that 1836 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: he's healthy and then ready to play, he was disruptive. 1837 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,639 Speaker 1: I mean the last two years he caused his numbers 1838 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 1: aren't great, but he just like beats up people. It's 1839 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,640 Speaker 1: in the backfield and guys are gonna free because of them. 1840 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,720 Speaker 1: How about you Ja rankings? Um? Yeah, Colts still one, No, 1841 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 1: at the bottom. We're starting from the bottom, Colts down low. 1842 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,960 Speaker 1: Tennessee is right there too. But the sole the thing 1843 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,439 Speaker 1: for me is that the Jags somehow I have to 1844 01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,760 Speaker 1: figure out this Tennessee. They're gonna be You know what 1845 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:32,840 Speaker 1: the word is in Tennessee that you're already locked. The 1846 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,639 Speaker 1: word the word in Tennessee is that Mario is getting 1847 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 1: out played right right. You're watching the game. Bhy the 1848 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:46,920 Speaker 1: guy that yeah, that wouldn't surprise, but the Jags still 1849 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,240 Speaker 1: have issues with him. No, not this year. Got to 1850 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:54,680 Speaker 1: stop being negative is saying it's the problem right now. 1851 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,280 Speaker 1: Lock it right now. The Titans go down in the division. 1852 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 1: The Titans, we're gonna lock that both games to the Jaguars. 1853 01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:07,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars will beat them here and in Nashville. Take you 1854 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:14,840 Speaker 1: to the bank. What's the date today? Soundbiteck it? Thank 1855 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,559 Speaker 1: you the first lock of the year. Give me Titans 1856 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:22,720 Speaker 1: Colts Texans Jags four to one. Jackson the top, I 1857 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,560 Speaker 1: got you the defense mainly. We don't know what the 1858 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,560 Speaker 1: offense really is yet, but you have a feeling that 1859 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,080 Speaker 1: can be good if guys are healthy. You know, it 1860 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,640 Speaker 1: was last year when guys were healthy early saw was 1861 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 1: it Sports Illustrated that have the Jackson is a five 1862 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,720 Speaker 1: win team this year? Yeah, there's people picking five six 1863 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 1: wins for the Jacks and Nick who knows had five 1864 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,240 Speaker 1: last year? Well, last year they were all getting picked. 1865 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 1: They were picking the Jackson to the super Bowl. This 1866 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 1: year there, so let's hope that. Uh yeah, but they 1867 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl m v P now playing quarterback. 1868 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:51,920 Speaker 1: Let's hope they're wrong both times. I hope they're wrong. 1869 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,360 Speaker 1: Last year, that's somethingy're wrong. This year we'll come back. 1870 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,640 Speaker 1: We'll go around the National Football League the rest of it. 1871 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 1: Since we've already touched the a FC sound we can 1872 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: continue are like Tennessee Titans. You can lock some more things. 1873 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,400 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans is an interesting team to me because 1874 01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 1: I like Mariota. I'm just not I mean, Jeff was 1875 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: high on him coming out. I was not. I I'm 1876 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:16,760 Speaker 1: a franchise guy coming up. I don't think generational generational, 1877 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 1: but I did say that I would take him over 1878 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston. Yes, and I said I would not and 1879 01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:27,040 Speaker 1: I was right. Um so yes, everyone in the NFL 1880 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,599 Speaker 1: would take Jameis Winston more than Mariota. Look at their numbers. 1881 01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. The football season is I 1882 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:37,200 Speaker 1: don't take to pick right now. You're the GMT. MARIOTAA. 1883 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,600 Speaker 1: We're running the box offense. We're not. We don't need 1884 01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:45,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Football can't tell me. Jamis jamis thinking, thank 1885 01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:48,000 Speaker 1: you want football season heating up? 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Well, I guess we'll look forward 1950 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 1: to have him back next week. Of course, it depends 1951 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:48,000 Speaker 1: who are Jeff Lago a filling in value. Speaking of 1952 01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,439 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, who is interviewing arguably the best young quarterback 1953 01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL today, they're gonna remind us again the 1954 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,960 Speaker 1: Jakes could have had him. Well they could have. But 1955 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,600 Speaker 1: if you get a guy seen the highlights some of 1956 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,920 Speaker 1: their preseason action, they have like eight guys who were 1957 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 1: in like four or three. They're just run around everywhere, 1958 01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,800 Speaker 1: right they are. They are fast about so you know 1959 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:12,479 Speaker 1: all this talk about and we talked about this a 1960 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when the Jags didn't play the 1961 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 1: starters the first two weeks. Well, here's what homes going 1962 01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,200 Speaker 1: out there scrambling around they play every week, by the way, 1963 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,800 Speaker 1: diving towards the end zone. And I mean it's that 1964 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 1: was That was the dumbest, the dumbest scramble I have 1965 01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:28,240 Speaker 1: ever seen in the NFL. And it's a real game. 1966 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 1: He might try to die for the end zone. I 1967 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,439 Speaker 1: think he slid at the end of the one yard 1968 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,800 Speaker 1: line or something. But that kind of for the m 1969 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,640 Speaker 1: v P. Man and Reid had a little talking to 1970 01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 1: with him about that, But I mean that was they 1971 01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,559 Speaker 1: have they have a lot of weapons and uh, but Jeff, 1972 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,599 Speaker 1: I mean how much what do you think about that though? 1973 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean they're literally playing those guys every week for 1974 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:47,880 Speaker 1: the first three weeks. I doubt to play week four. 1975 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,200 Speaker 1: But well, I mean is it the right answer for them? 1976 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,920 Speaker 1: And maybe is it the right answer for this team? Maybe? 1977 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, I thought, like I said before, I kind 1978 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 1: of sit on the fence, well on this issue where 1979 01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:03,760 Speaker 1: you whether you should or should not play. That's give 1980 01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:07,519 Speaker 1: an opinion, let's go. I mean in some in some instances, 1981 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,519 Speaker 1: I want to see the Jaguars play. I mean this 1982 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,600 Speaker 1: is the best. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that, but 1983 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,519 Speaker 1: I would not play them every game. And I think 1984 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,600 Speaker 1: that's a mistake by Andy Reid. I thought you were 1985 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:23,240 Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about I would I mean, I 1986 01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,160 Speaker 1: just I wouldn't do that. I mean, look, it's it's 1987 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,880 Speaker 1: it's a different NFL with the amount of talent that 1988 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,920 Speaker 1: you have and and the quality of your backups, and look, 1989 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,200 Speaker 1: maybe they're different. They feel like they've got great backups, 1990 01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:38,240 Speaker 1: but most teams don't. And you're talking about the best 1991 01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,200 Speaker 1: young quarterback in football that just made a decision that 1992 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,160 Speaker 1: could have cost him in the organization greatly if somebody 1993 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,960 Speaker 1: were to whack them in that instant. So to me, 1994 01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:52,800 Speaker 1: it's all about far and I would agree, Jeff, I know, 1995 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 1: I see no reward. Um. I liked him playing like 1996 01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,640 Speaker 1: I would have played Nick Foles in that offense in 1997 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,120 Speaker 1: Week two, So I'm fine with him playing Week two 1998 01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,400 Speaker 1: Week three. I don't think you need to play one 1999 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:07,720 Speaker 1: or four. Going back to the last thing, we had 2000 01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,920 Speaker 1: the power rankings AFC South Power Rankings, our first edition 2001 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,800 Speaker 1: which we'll have on this show. Locked. What did you 2002 01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,880 Speaker 1: lock it? Undefeated? I locked? I locked. The Jags would beat, 2003 01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 1: would sweep the Titans. And the reason I bring this 2004 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,639 Speaker 1: up is that in in my power rankings, the first 2005 01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,160 Speaker 1: thing I said was that, well, the JAG's gotta get 2006 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,479 Speaker 1: past this Titans thing. Well, this Titans thing is that 2007 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,960 Speaker 1: the Titans have won six of the last seven meetings 2008 01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,280 Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. You know what that means for this year? 2009 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,600 Speaker 1: Not much, nothing, nothing. It means as much as you 2010 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,160 Speaker 1: allow to meet as a team. Like, if you want 2011 01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,439 Speaker 1: to go dwell back and think back, what's happened to 2012 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,519 Speaker 1: pass the last thing I remember Derrick Henry run a 2013 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine and a half. I guess this team come 2014 01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:54,439 Speaker 1: Thursday night of week three for week two week is 2015 01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,200 Speaker 1: that we played three Week three after Houston Thursday night here. 2016 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 1: None of that. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what 2017 01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,400 Speaker 1: happened last year. I'm a firm believing that. I think 2018 01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,040 Speaker 1: we make too much of that streaks and all this stuff. 2019 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:11,080 Speaker 1: It's nonsense. I would like if you allowed to affect, 2020 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,960 Speaker 1: you will well whether it's affected a team or not. 2021 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,680 Speaker 1: The reality is the numbers aren't lying. No, no, I'm 2022 01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,160 Speaker 1: not saying that, but it shouldn't. What does it have 2023 01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,120 Speaker 1: to do what happened last year or two years ago, 2024 01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 1: five years ago or ten years ago. What does it 2025 01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,400 Speaker 1: have to do with this? They need to bring you 2026 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,320 Speaker 1: in and talk to the team the night before the game. 2027 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,599 Speaker 1: Bring me in Monday of the I have a very 2028 01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:35,120 Speaker 1: small number. One Lara of all time is here. I'll 2029 01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:36,680 Speaker 1: wave it for them because that's how much I hate 2030 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 1: the Titans. I've locked it so I need, I need 2031 01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 1: to participate in this. You did lock it. I just like, 2032 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,880 Speaker 1: what does it mean? Like for Nick Foles who was 2033 01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,320 Speaker 1: in Philly last year, what does he care the rack retired, now, 2034 01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:56,800 Speaker 1: didn't they? Derek Morgans still there. I'm pretty sure I 2035 01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,720 Speaker 1: think he retired. Derek Morgan retired, he's he retired to 2036 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. My point is it does not matter. 2037 01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,559 Speaker 1: Like Nick Foles wasn't even here. That's why they picked 2038 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,839 Speaker 1: up Cameron Went. You know who lost to the Titans 2039 01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,880 Speaker 1: last year. The Eagles think about that for a while. 2040 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,800 Speaker 1: So falls does know about the type? No, but it 2041 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Okay, Josh Allen was in Kentucky last year? 2042 01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:22,760 Speaker 1: Who cares? None of it matters? Well, didn't he lose 2043 01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:28,000 Speaker 1: a Tennessee probably? Okay, I give up. I'm trying, not 2044 01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:32,439 Speaker 1: working the volunteer actually bet Hi last year? Yeah, I 2045 01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,000 Speaker 1: don't think volunteers are whipping much of anybody. Right now, 2046 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,280 Speaker 1: let's try, let's come, let's continue, Let's go around the 2047 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 1: National Football League confused, we're not taking another commercial. Um. 2048 01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:46,880 Speaker 1: Let's start off with Patrick Chung pleading not guilty to 2049 01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 1: cocaine possession charges. The rainment scheduled for this week. Next 2050 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,680 Speaker 1: court appearance November eight. So what was the story? Did 2051 01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:54,600 Speaker 1: they come into his house and found the cook like 2052 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,439 Speaker 1: he had a break in or something? I read and 2053 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,600 Speaker 1: then the police came in or like how did they 2054 01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:03,519 Speaker 1: find a coke? I don't know, but but it was 2055 01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,599 Speaker 1: it happened back in like June a while back, yea 2056 01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,840 Speaker 1: or something. Look at the details. I want to know 2057 01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 1: how they found it. What is and we'll get to that. Yes, 2058 01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:14,720 Speaker 1: but matters because that's his whole defense. He's gonna have 2059 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:18,080 Speaker 1: some defense that it wasn't his couse in New Hampshire. Um, 2060 01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:22,240 Speaker 1: the arrayment was scheduled for this week. He waved it, uh, 2061 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:23,880 Speaker 1: and we'll get the d I gotta I gotta dig 2062 01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,400 Speaker 1: to the d's a little bit more. But for the point, 2063 01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,040 Speaker 1: that's his defense. I it's not my coke. It was 2064 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: someone else's cocaine. So grand jury charge on June Meredith, 2065 01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, where Chung has a residence. So yeah, I 2066 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,679 Speaker 1: thought I read somewhere. I don't want to say that's whatever. 2067 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,400 Speaker 1: That's his defense, but it's not. It's not a good look. 2068 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,320 Speaker 1: I hope it's not. I hope it's not his not 2069 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,120 Speaker 1: not for him just to be get all for anything 2070 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:56,080 Speaker 1: like that, just for his personal well being, because if 2071 01:51:56,120 --> 01:52:00,479 Speaker 1: he's using coke, it ain't gonna end good. I'll tell 2072 01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:05,519 Speaker 1: you that Jacobe Brissette. We've mentioned the culture of the 2073 01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,800 Speaker 1: show right here, right, Um, well, he's the colt starting 2074 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,599 Speaker 1: quarterback now, you know Andrew Luck retired. Really, I don't 2075 01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:12,599 Speaker 1: know if you guys heard the start of the show, 2076 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:18,880 Speaker 1: but apparently Brissette does not have an official agent, so 2077 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 1: apparently agents around the league or ringing his phone off 2078 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,040 Speaker 1: the hook. I'm sure trying to get him upboard about that, Yeah, 2079 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure. In fact, though, when we were down in Miami, 2080 01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:33,000 Speaker 1: we saw one of the powerhouse agents in the hotel. 2081 01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,640 Speaker 1: So I'm on the sideline, which is Drew Rosenhouse and 2082 01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how many clients. That guy's got a lot, 2083 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:41,720 Speaker 1: but he can. I don't know if there's a person 2084 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:43,599 Speaker 1: on the plant that does a better job of managing 2085 01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:48,400 Speaker 1: people than him. Scott Boris Baseball has a lot as well. 2086 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,920 Speaker 1: It probably makes more money because the baseball contract. But 2087 01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:55,840 Speaker 1: that's about it. I mean, I mean in the NFL world, 2088 01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,479 Speaker 1: I mean Drew A. Rose now he is the man. 2089 01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 1: Is he still the guy? Oh? Yeah, I'm not. I'm 2090 01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,360 Speaker 1: not saying I don't know. Is he still the biggest agent? 2091 01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,599 Speaker 1: I would say so, is he? I have no idea, Yes, 2092 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,000 Speaker 1: that's a question. I don't know who is, but yeah, 2093 01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:15,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty interestingthing. Else rest easy now, guys, Antonio 2094 01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:20,719 Speaker 1: Brown has multiple offers of helmet money. Is the crazy 2095 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,680 Speaker 1: thing too? Brown is going to make cash from this 2096 01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,960 Speaker 1: fiasco of the player in the NFL that will have 2097 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,920 Speaker 1: a helmet deal. Does any other player have a helmet 2098 01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 1: deal in the NFL? I don't think they do. He's 2099 01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna be doing commercials for right l or whoever whoever. 2100 01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,120 Speaker 1: I think it's shut. Isn't it shut because he wore 2101 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:41,800 Speaker 1: a shut helmet before? No, nobody's saying for sure. He 2102 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:45,240 Speaker 1: has multiple multiple Yeah, he might have a new he 2103 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:50,120 Speaker 1: h U T T right for the highest bidder. Antonio 2104 01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:54,160 Speaker 1: Brown can speak about helmets for you and wear one 2105 01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,560 Speaker 1: on the field. I don't know if I mean the 2106 01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,240 Speaker 1: helmet company can do it, because it's gonna be great publicity, 2107 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,880 Speaker 1: make no mistake. But if you're if you're a company 2108 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,160 Speaker 1: and you've seen Antonio brown behavior of the last two years, 2109 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,840 Speaker 1: would you want him be in your spokesman? Well, here's 2110 01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,960 Speaker 1: the thing. Whoever gets him is gonna get a lot 2111 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,720 Speaker 1: of press. And at the end of the day, what 2112 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:18,400 Speaker 1: are those helmet companies want? Brand. They want their brand 2113 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:23,960 Speaker 1: out there. Well with this whole idiotic craziness about a 2114 01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:28,040 Speaker 1: helmet and not missing, not showing up the practice and appeal, 2115 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,679 Speaker 1: that's got to be one of the craziest stories ever 2116 01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:32,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But whoever he goes with it is 2117 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of press and people are gonna 2118 01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,960 Speaker 1: be talking about. Name me a story that's been crazier 2119 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,840 Speaker 1: than that this year. No, in the history of the league, 2120 01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:45,200 Speaker 1: the flight game, the how much air pressures in football, Wheather, 2121 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:49,000 Speaker 1: Tom Braidy. That was way weirder. That was a weird 2122 01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:54,240 Speaker 1: But that one went on and on. Think about a 2123 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,680 Speaker 1: person like a personality in the NFL that's became a 2124 01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:01,320 Speaker 1: story like that? Is there an another one? Is? I mean? 2125 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, remember what Dion was playing. He was a 2126 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,560 Speaker 1: story all the time, but not like this. I mean, 2127 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,000 Speaker 1: this is this is craziness. I have to think back. 2128 01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:14,480 Speaker 1: It's it's just odd a little different. Um, the Falcons 2129 01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,200 Speaker 1: want to get Julio Jones new contract done before the season. 2130 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,520 Speaker 1: Do you think they will? Yeah, I think it's already done. 2131 01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,920 Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of them just breaking 2132 01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 1: news are breaking. I'm not breaking dot com. Jeff is breaking. 2133 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,680 Speaker 1: How many touchdowns does he average? Because you know you 2134 01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 1: about to you talked to a lot of people in 2135 01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: his single digits touchdowns on yearly average, he had like 2136 01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 1: one or two last year to the year before, not 2137 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,280 Speaker 1: very many. So Tony, you just keep picking them in 2138 01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:47,760 Speaker 1: fantasy football on game days. So I'm going with an 2139 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,760 Speaker 1: Tonio Brown new helmet. But would you do I still 2140 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,840 Speaker 1: consider Julio the best receiver's number one Hopkins Hopkins number one. 2141 01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,280 Speaker 1: If I'm picking a receiver for my team, it's DeAndre 2142 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:04,880 Speaker 1: Hopkins is my first pick. Yep. Yeah, last year eight 2143 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:09,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns for Julio three of the six eight, six, two 2144 01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,640 Speaker 1: and then twelve he had ten. That's his high watermark. 2145 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 1: That was a second year in the league. Look at 2146 01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:20,200 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Would you'd probably take Hopkins over Julio. I'll 2147 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:23,880 Speaker 1: take down Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Kill. I'll take in town 2148 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,960 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham if he's my mind, I mean Odell like 2149 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,880 Speaker 1: if he's gonna like when he's he's balling, he's bawling, 2150 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:38,880 Speaker 1: He's amazing. Right, that's a handful that Green healthys Jayla 2151 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,160 Speaker 1: Ramsey getting in his head again. Now, Julio is very good. 2152 01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's anywhere from three to six, seven eight. 2153 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 1: He's right there. Yeah, he's sitting there somewhere. But he's 2154 01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:49,960 Speaker 1: really good. He's not he's not worthy of being the 2155 01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:53,120 Speaker 1: top paid wide receiver in the league. In my opinion, 2156 01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:58,880 Speaker 1: that's that's Hopkins, That's Tyreek Hill, that's Antonio Brown without 2157 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:04,160 Speaker 1: the craziness with the guy can still do things. He's 2158 01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:08,520 Speaker 1: an amazing athlete. Take your Alabama bias. Had had nothing 2159 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,960 Speaker 1: to do with that. I'm just saying, like, just watching him. 2160 01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:12,960 Speaker 1: But if you look at and I'm gonna keep I 2161 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,880 Speaker 1: keep on saying his name, DeAndre Hopkins. If you look 2162 01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 1: what he's done with the quarterbacks he's had to play 2163 01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,880 Speaker 1: with and the numbers he puts up. Could you imagine 2164 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,200 Speaker 1: if DeAndre Hopkins had Matt Ryan did not have a 2165 01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:28,000 Speaker 1: drop last year, but put him with one of these 2166 01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:31,280 Speaker 1: big time quarterbacks. Hopkins did not have a drop. And 2167 01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:34,600 Speaker 1: it's not like Hopkins with Ben Roethlisberg crazy. He's had 2168 01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:38,560 Speaker 1: a rotation of quarterbacks, bad offensive line, fill in the blanks, 2169 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:43,840 Speaker 1: help receiver. Uh. The NFL and the NFL p A 2170 01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:47,480 Speaker 1: are meeting for a seventh cb A full bargaining session 2171 01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:51,040 Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow in Chicago. They're saying a new deal 2172 01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:52,840 Speaker 1: before the start of the year is unlikely, but talks 2173 01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:56,040 Speaker 1: are moving in a positive direction. The CBA expires after 2174 01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,840 Speaker 1: and remember the Christian Um early while back said he 2175 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,480 Speaker 1: would want it to have a deal done before the season. 2176 01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,160 Speaker 1: Sounds like we're getting close now, but they're still meeting 2177 01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:10,480 Speaker 1: and moving ahead before this season or before this season. 2178 01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,800 Speaker 1: I think the do make sure it's done because after 2179 01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:20,520 Speaker 1: then you're going crazy lock out and everything else. So 2180 01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 1: I hope it gets done. I hope because I don't 2181 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,480 Speaker 1: see any reason why I can't get done considering what 2182 01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,360 Speaker 1: the league went through the last time this happened. I 2183 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,520 Speaker 1: wasn't in the league then, but just watching it from 2184 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,600 Speaker 1: the outside, just the you don't want to be on 2185 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 1: that storyline of lockouts and this is bad for business. 2186 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,640 Speaker 1: Every really wasn't. How bad was it? Like what happened? 2187 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:43,000 Speaker 1: It's just the negative. He don't want everywhere. They came 2188 01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,760 Speaker 1: back and played football. Nothing happened. He's still the number 2189 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,320 Speaker 1: one sport, number one American sport. I'm not saying it's 2190 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:50,920 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. You know what I mean, 2191 01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:56,080 Speaker 1: Like if you don't if it, if you can avoid it. Great. 2192 01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,000 Speaker 1: The only time we're to get negative you start taking 2193 01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:01,120 Speaker 1: games away from an impact. Then it's an impact that 2194 01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,840 Speaker 1: put the way that even it was an annoyance last 2195 01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:08,040 Speaker 1: or seven, eight years ago wherever he was. Um. But 2196 01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,800 Speaker 1: I think it gets done during the season or the 2197 01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,040 Speaker 1: next offseason before I think it's done for sure, before 2198 01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,600 Speaker 1: the season, it'll be done. The big question is is 2199 01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,480 Speaker 1: what do they do with preseason and are they going 2200 01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:23,040 Speaker 1: to from They got to addressed the preseason games. They 2201 01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,520 Speaker 1: got to agree Jeff, and then they don't need to 2202 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:28,400 Speaker 1: change the regular season. Actually, I probably would mean towards 2203 01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,800 Speaker 1: Jeff and not to Alright, fellas, Tony, well done, Hey Blocks, 2204 01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,640 Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for coming in, Jeff, way to go. 2205 01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,200 Speaker 1: Let's get out of my seat. Bestow of the year, 2206 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,560 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, Brent Raybram JP Shadow will see you next time. 2207 01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,520 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.