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Speaker 1: Welcome to your brand new Second Date podcast. It's Brooke and.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey in the morning, and I gotta say I think

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Speaker 2: today's Second Date calls for a poll.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done a pole mile of course. I think

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Speaker 1: the poll only works on Spotify to actually click it. Yeah, done.

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Speaker 2: But you can just put in your answer wherever else

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Speaker 2: you're listening. That's on the comments, whether it's on YouTube

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Speaker 2: or whatever platform you're on, or you can text it

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Speaker 2: into the number seven eight five nine two. If your

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Speaker 2: date has something on their face, do you say something

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Speaker 2: or do you keep it to yourself?

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Speaker 3: It depends, honestly, I'd probably wipe it off. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: with what with a napkin?

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I'm all excited, all right, let us know,

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Speaker 2: let us know, and you'll understand why that question here

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Speaker 2: in just a second.

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Speaker 1: But first comments from our lovely Lovely listeners.

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Speaker 2: Alexis Killer Sheep said, I've been listening since February and

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Speaker 2: finally caught up with all the episodes in the Second

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Speaker 2: Date Update podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm upgrading to the full show now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good. I was gonna say, oh no, you

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Speaker 3: ran out of stop to listen to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing that people don't understand who

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Speaker 1: love this podcast is. We actually do an.

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Speaker 2: Hour long show every day e stink and day we

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Speaker 2: do a brand new show. So if you want the

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Speaker 2: full show, you can go over to main our main

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Speaker 2: feed podcast just look up Brooke and Jefferys that's right there.

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Speaker 1: Or you can click more like this and I think

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Speaker 1: it's the first option.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's true too. All right, let's get this

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Speaker 2: second date started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, second date up date. Brooke, did you know the

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Speaker 3: first time that you met your husband Michael that something

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Speaker 3: was special? Not saying that you knew like you were

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Speaker 3: going to get married in the first fifteen seconds of

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Speaker 3: talking to him, but was there anything that happened with

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Speaker 3: you instantly that lets you know, whoa, there's something real,

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Speaker 3: like something actually special going on.

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Speaker 2: No, I just felt so good around him, and I

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Speaker 2: was so excited about him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're drunk, so that's probably.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I did have like five glasses of wine

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Speaker 2: and make an off color ut I joke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well yeah, ey jokes and.

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Speaker 1: He still likes me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Pet explains it. I mean, I remember the first

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Speaker 3: time that I met Jose and I noticed his fly

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Speaker 3: was down and I thought ooh special.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't tell me Xyz though.

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Speaker 3: No I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: He asked you to put it down further.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, we don't talk about this all

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Speaker 3: the time, about that first ten to fifteen seconds when

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Speaker 3: you meet your date and something happens inside. That's what

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Speaker 3: you knows.

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Speaker 4: That's real.

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Speaker 3: Apparently that happened to one of our listeners gram recently,

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Speaker 3: at least that's what his email said, and we should

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Speaker 3: learn a little bit more about it. Graham, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the show man.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear about this chance meeting. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, without getting overly descriptive, how did your body

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Speaker 3: let you know that this was special?

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Speaker 4: Well, she didn't ever fly open. I can tell you that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dang it.

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Speaker 3: So what's her name, by the way, and how did

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Speaker 3: you meet her?

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Speaker 4: Her name is Aura, Aura.

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Speaker 1: How did you meet her?

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Speaker 4: We met on one of those dating apps and we

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Speaker 4: decided to meet at a wine bar.

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Speaker 2: All right, So going into meeting her at the wine bar,

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Speaker 2: were you expecting something special?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know how you always have your hopes up.

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Speaker 4: But I knew when I walked in that I was

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Speaker 4: going to be in so much trouble. Why immediately recognized

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Speaker 4: her hands over her head like a total door.

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Speaker 3: Just one of those people like me. She's got no shame.

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Speaker 1: And you loved that.

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh my god. She was just so like effort lived, cute, well, free.

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Speaker 3: Spirit over there.

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Speaker 1: Her name's Aura, it comes you know. That's adorable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it sounds like she was excited to see you.

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Speaker 4: It was one of those like initial meetings where in

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Speaker 4: the first five seconds I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: That must be a lot to process, right when you're

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Speaker 3: first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling where

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Speaker 3: often just getting to like a normal date after that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it

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Speaker 4: jazz trio playing fine and we were both into jazz music,

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Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, let's make up names for

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Speaker 4: the guys, and so you have Sammy Fly guitar playing

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Speaker 4: and Dennis the drummer, yeahnny, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: We were just cracking each other up the whole time.

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Speaker 3: You guys were in your own world right exactly.

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Speaker 2: And they're already making almost inside jokes with each other,

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Speaker 2: you know, like just a fun, fun thing.

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Speaker 3: Now anytime any song goes on the radio, you can

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Speaker 3: be like, oh yeah, this is my favorite drummer, Yeah

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Speaker 3: Lington drummers.

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Speaker 1: I know whatever.

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Speaker 3: Well, clearly the vibes are there, so keep taking us

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Speaker 3: through how the rest of the date goes.

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Speaker 4: It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of

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Speaker 4: like humor was just so like simpatico, I guess to

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Speaker 4: that word. Like at one point she had like some

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Speaker 4: lipstick on her front teeth. Huh, So I started like

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Speaker 1: Good, I'm glad you told her.

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Speaker 4: And she just looks at me. She goes, what do

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Speaker 4: you have in a stroke on your teeth? Exactly? I

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Speaker 4: was just laughing so much and then fun, Oh yeah

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Speaker 4: it was it went so well, oh my god, this sounds.

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Speaker 1: Like it Why are you calling us for help? Then, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing, it didn't really end poorly. When

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Speaker 4: we said goodbye, she just came up to me and

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Speaker 4: gave me like a really long, tight hug.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 4: Some of those are nice exactly, and she says, we

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Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 4: Sincere, I texted her twice, one time to see if

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Speaker 4: she wanted to go out for coffee, the second time

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Speaker 4: to see if she wanted to go to a trivia night,

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Speaker 4: because I think she'd be great at that.

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Speaker 3: Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her?

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Speaker 3: Was this like thirty minutes after the date or was

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Speaker 4: I waited two days.

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Speaker 1: I think that's too long too.

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Speaker 2: I think when you have a connection like that with

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Speaker 1: You just follow You got to play the game of waiting. Yeah, day,

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Speaker 1: that's what blew it that it took too long.

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Speaker 3: Have you read that on a certain point, you just

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Speaker 3: got to grab your luggage and move in with her.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like so connected.

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Speaker 1: Have you not heard from her at all?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing is like when I was texting her,

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Speaker 4: she did reply, but both times she said that she

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Speaker 4: was busy, And the worst part was like she didn't

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Speaker 4: It was like, well, I'm busy. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes these free spirits, they really suck at.

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Speaker 3: Text outa you know, I mean, Alexis, if you wanted

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Speaker 1: I would offer something else. I'd probably over offer. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably mentioned all the times I'm free.

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Speaker 2: How many times you do apologize for being busy A lot?

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Speaker 3: It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm

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Speaker 3: it exactly. That could feel like that she's trying to

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Speaker 3: brush you off. I understand it.

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Speaker 1: You guys had such a thing happening.

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Speaker 2: It's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her

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Speaker 3: pay for the dinner that night you made I'm just

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Speaker 3: assuming you.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I am a proper gentleman. I paid

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Speaker 4: for everything. Okay, I just need I need you guys

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Speaker 4: to find out for me, how the hell did I

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Speaker 4: blow this.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find for you. How do keep it going?

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Speaker 1: Because I've got faith in this one.

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Speaker 3: Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could

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Speaker 3: be something totally unrelated.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to get her on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Let's find out. We're gonna come back call Aura and

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Speaker 3: try and get you your second date update coming up

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Speaker 3: right after this. Okay, all right, man, hold on second

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Speaker 3: date update whenever. I'm stuck on holds with customer service

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Speaker 3: for four straight hours and the automated message keeps replaying

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Speaker 3: over and over saying we're busy right now, but don't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere. Your call's very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I believe them. Oh you do they really really care? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not understaffed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a break somewhere.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, if you're on the other end

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Speaker 3: of a potential relationship with somebody you really like and

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Speaker 3: you get too sorry, I'm just busy right now in

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Speaker 3: a rowse, it's hard not to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: Especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine for

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Speaker 2: a different day to date me up exactly.

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Speaker 3: And that's where our listener Graham is. After a really

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Speaker 3: good date at a jazz bar with a girl named Aura.

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Speaker 3: He has turned to us because those two busys just

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Speaker 2: Equaling the vibe that they had going when they were

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Speaker 5: It just sounds so I can't believe we haven't said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Graham, I mean before we call her here, how

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest, But how's

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Speaker 4: your Aura?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, I'm feeling nervous for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just sound so excited, and I want

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Speaker 1: I think we all do.

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Speaker 3: Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this

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Speaker 3: out there, but it has to be shocking. Like whatever

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Speaker 3: the excuse is, you're not gonna see like, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.

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Speaker 3: We can change that right now. Let let's see if

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Speaker 3: something went wrong. I'm going to dial her number right now.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 3: is this Aura? Yes, this is a we're a radio show.

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Speaker 3: We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the morning show. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for being on with us.

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Speaker 6: Uh okay, Hi, I didn't I don't think I signed

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Speaker 1: We know you're really busy, so we won't keep it.

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Speaker 3: That's what we've heard. We're really good at these. By

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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll get through this.

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Speaker 3: Because we're calling about a guy that you went out

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no, it's the thing is, we spoke to

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Speaker 3: if there's a reason that the two of you haven't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I like I already texted him, Like

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Speaker 3: I think in his mind, when you say I'm busy,

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Speaker 6: Like I meant what I said, I'm just really busy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but there's no way I mean, like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: But I'm not like canceling my plans, Like I know

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Speaker 3: Not asking you to do that. But he just asked

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Speaker 5: But it's what's unclear.

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, Okay, but I am busy, uncle.

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Speaker 2: If you like, I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually

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Speaker 5: I like him, but like I don't understand why, like

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Speaker 3: Mentioned gotcha, I hear you, and I don't want to

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Speaker 4: In or what.

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Speaker 6: I'm so confused, like what is happening? What's like? What's

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Speaker 3: Job said job jobbers?

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Speaker 6: I called you jobbers, like I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: I okay, you.

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Speaker 3: Talk to her?

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Speaker 4: Yeah I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a

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Speaker 5: So yeah, but like I told you, I was busy

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Speaker 6: I don't know what I was talking about. And he

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Speaker 1: That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy to come together.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing it. That was

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Speaker 2: D or can't you think of this as like a

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Speaker 1: Wants to see you and he went to all this effort.

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Speaker 6: No, it's super weird chemistry.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're angry.

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Speaker 1: Does this feel like the same person you went out

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Speaker 4: Well maybe not a little bit, but you guys have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can take the fall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, that's okay. I mean your intentions

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Speaker 3: I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I

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Speaker 3: brought some negative energy into this and that's what fat

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Speaker 3: that's right. You're so guilty and you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Be, Laura.

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Speaker 2: Is there is there anything we can do to come

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Speaker 1: Like you keep saying?

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Speaker 7: You can stop asking me questions and he can just

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Speaker 6: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Because I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: hang out. And how about this weekend? Are you free

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Speaker 6: I'm busy Friday?

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Speaker 1: Okay, keep going, Well, we'll have How about Saturday?

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Speaker 7: Then I've got something that day, but like you should,

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Speaker 6: But I'm in like two other situationships.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's why you're okay.

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Speaker 4: Now you know why she's so busy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Graham, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Is that okay with you?

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Speaker 4: Graham? Or let me ask you. You said you're already

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Speaker 6: It means a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Do you even have time for me then?

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Speaker 6: Or what I'm free Sunday afternoon? Like I can squeeze

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Speaker 4: I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed

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Speaker 6: Beggars can't be choosers here, Like you're the one who's

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Speaker 3: She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: But she's offering you not much.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm single, Like I don't have to like.

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Speaker 4: Kind of you?

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Speaker 1: You're kind of single.

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Speaker 3: I think we're all jealous of you are if anything.

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Speaker 2: So, I think, Graham, I don't know, Graham, I feel

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Look, guys, I think I should just

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Speaker 4: And let's do it.

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Speaker 3: So you're over to a possible third situationship with Aura.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well,

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's really optimistic for yourself.

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Speaker 7: I think that's the point of like dating, Like you're

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well great, Now we're running out of time here.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just curious though, Aura, if he does go

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Speaker 1: Why would they meet the other I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know how.

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Speaker 6: That's so weird.

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Speaker 7: No, Okay, if it works out, it works out, and

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Speaker 3: Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm down, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Not the grand romantic eddie I was b but realistic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh was that like the ickyest?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: That we've ever gotten to a second date ever, not

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Speaker 1: Wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least we got an answer to why

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Speaker 2: And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it is really clear, because we

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Speaker 1: She seems pretty blunt, Jeffy, and she.

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Speaker 3: Seems like she enjoyed. Is it for sure? It's the

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Speaker 1: A weird sexy voice thing.

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Speaker 3: How can you not when you're thinking about your harem

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Speaker 3: for Sunday afternoon hangouts.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's Sunday boy. Now, he's a posit.

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Speaker 3: It might end in a four way marriage if it

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Speaker 3: goes well enough. Sweet, so good for you, Graham. Keep

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Speaker 3: us updated. But if you want help with your dating life,

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Speaker 3: you can always email the show. We'll call that person

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Speaker 3: who isn't calling you back and go check out all

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Speaker 3: of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at

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Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffrey