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<v Speaker 2>And like, even just as moms, we say things and

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<v Speaker 2>we plant seeds and then we keep going and we

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<v Speaker 2>hope that it we hope that it like imprints on them,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does. And you know, this brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>our affirmation. Lynna was having having it, like being scared

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<v Speaker 2>to go to sleep and saying she was scared, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm brave, I'm strong, I'm powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing's coming to get me. I'm safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm brave, I'm strong, I'm powerful. Nothing's coming to get me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And like a few weeks later she was like getting nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>like she was getting scared of something and out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, I'm brave, I'm strong, I'm powerful. Nothing's

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<v Speaker 2>coming to get me. I'm safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yes, oh my gosh, remembered it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember it. Welcome back to good Mom's bad Choices.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Erica and I'm Mila. Happy Humpday, guys, Happy Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling, my love? I feel good. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a new couch in our studio today. It's yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes me happy, so I feel I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Jubilant, jubilant, jubilant, jubilant, jubilee, jubilee. This is what happens

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<v Speaker 2>when we try to use new words. That's why we

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<v Speaker 2>keep using the same twelve big words that we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Container and shut up. If you are watching on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>or you're not, go to go to YouTube because we

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<v Speaker 1>look cute today. I'm wearing one of our merch items.

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<v Speaker 1>I have our hat on. Make sure you subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>our YouTube channel. We're kind of cute. We got like

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<v Speaker 1>a cute little like twenty five thousand subscribers on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>over there. Wow. If you haven't subscribed yet, come on

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be commenting back. I'd be in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>be in the comments on YouTube cursing people out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. So are YouTubers mean, Yeah, they are, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like the dark Web. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's no real profiles. They can hide better. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you got cursed out in our YouTube comments, just

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<v Speaker 1>know that was me. It was me. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>said nice things, I also said nice things back. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>usually the one cursing out people on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting flagged every time, even though people are disrespecting me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know what, I have a problem with this.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can come here and talk shit, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can't respond.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go on? You go on the comment section

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive of Instagram. Mila will send me text like

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<v Speaker 1>she'll screenshot shit and text me and I'm like, where

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<v Speaker 1>what is this post? Even from She's like, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>one with Jordan's sparks. They said that we're witches and

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<v Speaker 1>they said we're all going to hell for pulling tarot cards.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently I went through those text messages. I'm like, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, poor fucking Jordan. Second of all, the logic

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<v Speaker 2>is crazy, Like every time I think like religion is

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<v Speaker 2>a dying breed, I see these ridiculous things. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's save Yourself the tarot cards. I'm like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>Someone was like the moon, the stars, the moon, the

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<v Speaker 2>stars and the tarot. I was like, who in the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck do you think made the moon and the stars,

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<v Speaker 2>witch and the tarot? And I was like, you do

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<v Speaker 2>realize the Bible was created by a bunch of profits

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<v Speaker 2>who got downloads. I'm like, sounds like magical, which shit

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<v Speaker 2>to me?

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<v Speaker 1>She did even she wasn't even a tarot car that

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<v Speaker 1>she posted a picture of. It was like a picture

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<v Speaker 1>got his card. It was like a picture of a snake,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it was a card. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>snake on a card. It's about like shedding old skin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you guys are slow and your titty is

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<v Speaker 1>about to pop out at any moment. I just know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it. The nipple is about to go

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<v Speaker 1>to war with that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't hang on my bottom cleavage, you know. I just

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<v Speaker 2>came to the conclusion like the Internet is a dumb place,

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<v Speaker 2>especially leaving such a We just got back from our retreat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing a hat, my hair is not done, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also still my Mexico vibes slash Madonna DJ makes

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<v Speaker 2>the people come together.

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<v Speaker 1>OW remember that. I hope she's okay. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>do a check in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe you should update me because you're random updates

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<v Speaker 2>with no end.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I got I got a mess. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>post saying Madonna was not okay and that she was

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<v Speaker 1>shitting on herself. So and then she was totally needed

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<v Speaker 1>to know and I was like, what the Madonna's a

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking legend. We can't lose Madonna. There's certain people we

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<v Speaker 1>just can't afford to lose Madonna, Jamie FOXX, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a news for you. Angela Bassett. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lose you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm for I can't afford to lose Angela Bassett. We're

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<v Speaker 2>losing everyone I know, but including us. This is not forever,

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't temporary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm usually the dark one.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna lose everyone and everything not lose. They will

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<v Speaker 2>transition and you will no longer be able to be

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<v Speaker 2>with them in the physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I had that thought today. I was staring

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<v Speaker 1>at my child as she slept this morning, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm not going to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the scariest thing on earth to look at your

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<v Speaker 2>child and be like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be here, but you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be here without me, without me? Yeah, I'm like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna be okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I always say this, being a parent is a highly

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<v Speaker 2>scary liability because once you have a kid, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>liability outside of yourself that you think should you could

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<v Speaker 2>do about it. You could just protect it, hopefully teach it,

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<v Speaker 2>and if shit happens, you got to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything that comes ooh darkness. But I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>part of the enlightenment, right, like not having an attachment

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<v Speaker 2>to anything, and not like not an attachment to your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously, like there's healthy attachment, but just understanding that

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<v Speaker 2>we are uh indestructible, we are infinity, Like we exist

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what, forever, over and over again in the

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<v Speaker 2>ethers or in this amazing human form where I could

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<v Speaker 2>have really good under cleavage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've been staring at my child as she slept

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<v Speaker 1>the past two nights and just thinking about how difficult

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<v Speaker 1>it is to stay present all the time. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend I went to see the Barbie movie and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually left my commentary on the Barbie movie and

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<v Speaker 1>our Patreon, So make sure you go check out Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>Very important commentary for me because I am a movie critic.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know, and I was. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the movie, I was looking at her and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my God, like time has flown. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the days of me playing with barbiees and dolls,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I have this, and now I have a

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<v Speaker 1>child that is playing with maybe not Barbie so much anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but just how time evolves, traditions somehow stay the same,

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<v Speaker 1>playing with dolls, all these different things that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get passed on along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Who started playing with dolls? I have no idea that's

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<v Speaker 2>the witchcraft.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it witchcraft? I don't know. I just omated it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's witchcraft. Everybody thinks everything's witchcraft, might

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<v Speaker 1>as well go with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more so congascination, imagination or conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>Because about it. I think it's a mixture of imagination

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<v Speaker 1>and conditioning, because then no one gave boys dolls. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you did it, well, they gave him action figures.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they gave girls cards to play moms. Did

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<v Speaker 1>they give us girls dolls?

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<v Speaker 2>To play moms or did we just get the dolls

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<v Speaker 2>and then play fucking moms because that's what we saw.

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<v Speaker 2>We imitated our moms maybe and like the family and

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<v Speaker 2>then they hunched.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe, I mean, yeah, and that's what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did appreciate that they addressed a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the movie, and I actually feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>movie was not for kids at all. I actually wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>recommend it for a Luna called me.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing she said to me on FaceTime Barbie

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<v Speaker 2>was inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Barbie was inappropriate. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>She said, Nana, you tell her. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck is Barbie doing. She's like, she's like they

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<v Speaker 2>said bad words. It's like what words? And her Nana

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<v Speaker 2>was like, vagina, penis and the effort. And I was like, Lona,

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<v Speaker 2>vagina and penis are not bad words. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>are both of our children who hear us curse all

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<v Speaker 2>day long? I know that's why my sensitive as child,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we don't say like vagina and penis all

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<v Speaker 2>day But I keep telling her that these are not

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<v Speaker 2>bad words. And I was like, I was like, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>has either a vagina or penis, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't even know why they

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<v Speaker 2>were saying it, because Barbie don't even got a vagina.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was that's what they said. She said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they said. I was like, well, that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like a lot of the jokes totally

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<v Speaker 1>went over Actually, I would say like ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the jokes went over Irie's head. And it was more

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<v Speaker 1>so about just like a nostalgic like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment for them, Like there were moments of dance, there

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<v Speaker 1>were moments of singing, and then Barbie looking cute and

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<v Speaker 1>also hopefully the idea that Barbie is not should not

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<v Speaker 1>be regarded as the societal norm of beauty hopefully penetrated

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<v Speaker 1>her little mind. However, I'm not sure if she was

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<v Speaker 1>able to fully grasp that, although that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of the message. Even though that like it's Barbie

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<v Speaker 1>really thought that like she was saving women's lives and

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<v Speaker 1>empowering women in her Barbie world, and then she went

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<v Speaker 1>to like Earth and realized that, like she's fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>the world. So it was like a rude awakening because

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<v Speaker 1>she's living in like this Barbie role of like I

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<v Speaker 1>help women feel powerful and every day is great and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not And then she went into the Row worlds

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<v Speaker 1>not and everyone hated her. So I appreciated that. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a speech by America Ferrera that kind of brought

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<v Speaker 1>tears to my eyes. It was like everything that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we always talk about on the show in

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty second speech.

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<v Speaker 2>So I appreciated that. But I don't think. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think that movie's for kids since her movie critics. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I also watched a movie last night.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it called? Oh I saw that, Oh, Clone Tyrone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Clone Tyrone. They cloned Tyrone. They cloned Tyrone.

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<v Speaker 1>That was with Jamie Fox right tonight, Tanoya. She's from

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<v Speaker 1>Dear White People.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, I was a couple of people in

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<v Speaker 2>that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like spooky, but like, uh, I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really liking black people doing more like suspense, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>scary films because we've been like, we haven't really been

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<v Speaker 2>in that space a lot, you know, so it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>to see us have be able to have mainstream range.

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<v Speaker 2>But mostly the movie is real, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>an it it's like an extreme version but like I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated the tone of the reality of the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>we are they like, we are targeted in society and

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<v Speaker 2>brainwashed heavily with food, with music, with like all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like we'd be trying to act like we

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it, but you know, good and goddamn well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're programming us and they've continued to and that's their

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<v Speaker 2>like means of control. So I liked like the way

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<v Speaker 2>they exemplified that in a very like spooky way, but

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<v Speaker 2>then it makes you think, like, oh shit, it is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I enjoyed it too. I just you know

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmie Fox, he's just he's just epic. He can just

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. I loved him in that phone. So yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>Neil and I were here at Good Good Media Studios

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<v Speaker 1>check out our studio for all your podcasting needs linked bio,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're here working and then I opened the fridge

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<v Speaker 1>and I found some like mushrooms that Lizzie Jeff had

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<v Speaker 1>left for us, and I recall her telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>they were microds. She did tell us that she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>these are micro doses. The very light that it like,

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<v Speaker 1>goddess mushrooms, what are they called? So yesterday, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let me take some of this because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been just i don't know, just been feeling not

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<v Speaker 1>even edgy, feel like I needed something to make me

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<v Speaker 1>just feel more grounded. So I was like a little

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<v Speaker 1>light micro dose, be fine, bitch. I took the mushroom

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<v Speaker 1>or the chocolate, and like twenty minutes into it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, huh, this is I have that familiar feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that you get, you know, a little tickle inside that

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<v Speaker 1>you get. And then I was I had ordered food,

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<v Speaker 1>and I ordered food, and then suddenly I like was

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<v Speaker 1>not hungry at all anymore. And then I was on

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<v Speaker 1>my computer and I was told I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even look at my computer. This is overwhelming. They

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<v Speaker 1>were getting emails and people were asking us to like

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<v Speaker 1>answer questions, and I was like, oh no. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I looked over her meal and I was like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm high, Like this is not a micro dose,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm on mushrooms and if I work.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, because she took one, I've took one.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, I don't I feel high? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think I'm okay. And then eight

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<v Speaker 2>seconds later I was crying on the couch. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think not I'm not okay, And we had clients

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<v Speaker 2>here and she was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's get this together before they're like

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck? You know? I'm like, I was wondering. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>now that I'm sitting here, I don't think they could

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<v Speaker 1>see us. But Mila was like sitting on my lap

0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.040
<v Speaker 1>like crying. I'm holding her. I keep looking over because

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are looking at us. Our clients are like,

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<v Speaker 1>why the fuck are they crying in the studio? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it is too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when we go on these retreats and we

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<v Speaker 2>leave for so long, we really are in these containers

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<v Speaker 2>that are so safe. You can literally do whatever you want,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's totally normal and safe to cry midday in

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<v Speaker 2>a group of people for no fucking reason at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and no one questions it. You just get hugs in love,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then you come back to this real world

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, people are gonna see me cry.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they're like, bitch is crazy, But now you

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is. I think we need to microdo

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<v Speaker 2>us more. I think if we did it more, like

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<v Speaker 2>every day like maybe we need to do it again

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<v Speaker 2>today or maybe not. I have shit to do but studying.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we did it every day, probably it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel so intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that sometimes because I go long bouts

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<v Speaker 1>without taking mushrooms, that when it comes it's really intense

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually really overly emotional at first, whereas like

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<v Speaker 1>I see some people take mushrooms and they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>super happy and functioning immediately, where I have to like

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<v Speaker 1>go through a whole process to get there. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when I left you, I had to do like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of breathing in the car. I was like doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of and then, you know, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a microdosi ish because it didn't last long

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling. The initial feeling was intense at first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it kind of dissipated, and then I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was with Iri, and then last night she was like, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 1>will you watch me jump on the trampoline? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like sure, And she did like at least five

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<v Speaker 1>different dance performances on the trampoline, and I was so

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<v Speaker 1>happy watching her. I was like, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the best shit ever. And she was killing it,

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<v Speaker 1>like she boomboch, she had no she had the she

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<v Speaker 1>had the hula hoop, and she was like doing She

0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was like a hula hooper with a trampolineho on the

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<v Speaker 1>trampoline doing all these I wish I would have recorded it,

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<v Speaker 1>but again I was trying to be present. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was really beautiful, like she was really in her I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw her tap into just something where she's felt

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<v Speaker 1>totally free and she was improvising and she was just

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<v Speaker 1>in her zone. And I'd never really seen her like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes when I see her perform, like if she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing with Luna, like she feels like insecurely insecure, but

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<v Speaker 1>like competitive skills, like she's be competitive or she's like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like emulate something. And I kept telling her

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I don't know. I was like,

0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.360
<v Speaker 1>is it the mushrooms talking? And I was like, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>like you are really embodying like freedom right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I see like the freedom coming through she.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the all of the hours and hours and

0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>hours of hip hop classes that I've paid for. Finally

0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I see some rhythm happening here. I was like, wow,

0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.480
<v Speaker 1>this is amazing. And so this morning I actually woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and I worked out and then I got the

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<v Speaker 1>hula hoop and I like hula. I like hula for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, and I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to start doing this shit more often, Like, yeah,

0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.919
<v Speaker 2>you do, remember you bought seventeen hula hoops for the retreat.

0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.919
<v Speaker 1>I know, I thought you shipped across country. I'm worldwide

0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.359
<v Speaker 1>stepping into my hula hoop era. I think every morning

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<v Speaker 1>it helped me kind of like connect to my body

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<v Speaker 1>and just feeling really feminine. And also it's a work out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I reinspired it last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's the mushrooms, my daughter and

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<v Speaker 2>the hula, but it did what it did what needed

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<v Speaker 2>to be done, you know what it's it's really nice,

0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not, well, obviously it's nice watching our kids

0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.359
<v Speaker 2>grow up, but they're at this age you know, shit,

0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.680
<v Speaker 2>they're about to be nine and Luna is about to

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<v Speaker 2>be nine, and I'm just like what the fuck? And

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<v Speaker 2>even this trip, just like seeing them the little women

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<v Speaker 2>is just like a huge like it's a huge quick

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<v Speaker 2>shift and like even come into their femininity and their

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<v Speaker 2>sensuality and be okay with it and like feminine. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's really a sight to see on the beach

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<v Speaker 2>the other day. Uh, we were taking pictures and then

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<v Speaker 2>the girls were like emulating our picture taking. But like

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<v Speaker 2>when it has these pictures and she's like looking back,

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.280
<v Speaker 2>she's like flipping her hair. I'm was like, okay, she

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<v Speaker 2>had like a slow motion video and she's like like

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<v Speaker 2>all gentle and like graceful and like and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I see you boot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I saw last night. I'm telling you. When

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<v Speaker 1>I her performance, I saw like your femininity comes I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the feminine essence of her, like not like the

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<v Speaker 1>little kid. I mean, obviously she's a kid, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that essence come out of her, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, okay. You know, and I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times when parents see that, it scares them

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.160
<v Speaker 1>because it it's like you're acting grown or like you're

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<v Speaker 1>emulating something but yet not only like yes and no,

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<v Speaker 1>like like you're emulating everything you see a fucking Barbie

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and like Beyonce and like all these things and us,

0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.040
<v Speaker 1>but also like it's in our it's in our innate nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Innate nature to you know, be little women in training

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<v Speaker 2>and like I'm just so happy that we are smart

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<v Speaker 2>enough not to like discourage it or make it like

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<v Speaker 2>make it a thing, but just it makes such a

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<v Speaker 2>big It makes such a difference to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>be empowered in your femininity at a young age and

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<v Speaker 2>not be afraid of it, because I see so many

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<v Speaker 2>women be afraid of themselves, be afraid of their bodies,

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<v Speaker 2>be afraid of their sensuality.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Freehand Hotel this weekend. I was at the pool

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<v Speaker 2>and I met some women because I'm a friendly bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the women gave me a piece of mushroom.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking. She was older a little bit. Shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to Genevieve, she's probably never going to know me again.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was just like saying something about my like

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 2>my my bathing suit, and like I was just telling

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 2>her about the retreating, like we get naked and we

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like be free and we hang out, and like she's

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<v Speaker 2>like I can never be naked, and like even with

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like a group of women, She's like, I can even

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 2>be naked alone. And I was like, huh, And I

0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.240
<v Speaker 2>know that this is to be true for a lot

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.479
<v Speaker 2>of women. You know, we start to age and our

0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.119
<v Speaker 2>bodies like do things differently. Or we have babies, and

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.679
<v Speaker 2>then it's harder for us to embrace the things that,

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, the standard of what our bodies are supposed

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.720
<v Speaker 2>to look like, but like really truly, like that's our

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.880
<v Speaker 2>power and like our sensuality. When you lose that, you're

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 2>losing a part of yourself. And it doesn't matter what

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 2>size or what happens as you evolved. It's like a

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:50.239
<v Speaker 2>it's an essential part of our existence and acknowledging it

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 2>and watering it. And I'm just like, it's something that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to start doing even in childhood, you know,

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 2>instead of like confusing women by being like.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not being that way, you know, even like the

0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>shit my parents used to get on me about, like

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I refuse like wearing fucking glitter on eyelids, tying up

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the shure, you know, like Lena does that. And I

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 2>used to be like, you think you are No, I'm

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 2>just like, come on, girl, you know what I mean.

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.919
<v Speaker 2>I remember being like six years old and having those

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 2>little plastic like high heels and clickety clocketing all over

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 2>the supermarket, all over places, like I was going somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think supposed real those motherfuckers outside, I

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 2>was clickety clacketting, But that's who I am right now,

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 2>clickety clacking ass, high hill wearing bitch. And my dad

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 2>talked shit to me and call me grown and stuff,

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>but like I still wore them.

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<v Speaker 1>I cried.

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 2>But you know, just like the world creating an environment

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.640
<v Speaker 2>for our girls that encourage them and embrace their sensuality

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and their femininity really could like essentially are tools that

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 2>are going to like carry them for a long time,

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 2>especially in a world that men are going to tell

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 2>them they're too much and other women and all these

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 2>things are like to fear their bodies in ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was really excited to even this morning because

0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I was still thinking about it this morning watching her,

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>because I was really in awe and I was like

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I want her to know like that that's that was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I woke her up and I was like,

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm still thinking about yesterday, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are you talking? Like, I'm like, that

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>was so amazing you were doing you were really like

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>doing her thing, and and she knew it. She felt

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 1>really confident because she did one song and she's like

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 1>I want to do oh you know what then she

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>also did She was on and she's like, what song

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:27.679
<v Speaker 1>should I do? She's like, oh wait, one second, I

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 1>need to talk to him. What did she call them? Her?

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.199
<v Speaker 1>What did she call them? She was like talking to

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.159
<v Speaker 1>people all night trampoline. She was like, oh hold on,

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like my spiritual like crew or something. She's like

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>one second and asked my spiritual crew, and then she

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>went like this, and then she was like talking to

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>them and she's like mm hm okay, yep, okay, So

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.479
<v Speaker 1>we want to do Rihanna umbrella. Oh okay, And I

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was like wow. And she kept doing that and I

0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:00.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, I've never seen her do that before. I

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, where did this come from? Like does she

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<v Speaker 1>have is she like tapping in in some way that

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I like that I've missed or something, or like is

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>this moment right now where she's tapping in? Because she

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>did that and then I saw her do something I've

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>never seen her do before, So it was really powerful

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I think it stuck with me the most,

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 1>especially that because I was like, who the fuck is

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>she talking to? But I was like, oh my god,

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that whatever whatever, whatever spiritual crew she's

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>calling in. That's that she knows that she can do that.

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I actually need to ask her about that, because I

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, huh, well.

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what I didn't consider, and then I thought

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 2>about because okay, so this time the girls have come

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>with us, you know, the second half of many retreats,

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>but this time they stayed on property even though we

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 2>hid them most and they kept saying, are you going to.

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Stop hiding us from the girl.

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 2>You're hiding us from the girls. I feel like Drake

0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>hiding our kids from the world. But you know, le Jaela,

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>who was one of our healers who came and assisted

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and gave a Kashak readings and did our Cacaw ceremony,

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 2>who's amazing. She mentioned to me in my reading. She

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is really powerful for the girls just

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 2>being in this space. They are getting the medicine just

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:19.919
<v Speaker 2>being here on the property. Like they don't even have

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 2>to be completely like they don't have to be involved

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 2>in anything, but they are, you know, getting this this

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>this medicine. And uh, one day they're baking us to

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.439
<v Speaker 2>do things and I had said no five times, so

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>finally it was my turn, and I'm like, okay, let's go.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 1>To the beach also there.

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I was just yeah, So we went to the beach

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and the water is being a little bit aggressive, and

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, we need to ask the ocean to

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 2>let us enter her. And then so we held hands

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, ocean, come, maybe please enter and

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>then she slowed and then we got in and then

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 2>like Linnon was like ah crabs. I was like, you

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>can't disrespect the ocean. You can't disrespect its creatures and

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 2>want to get in. So we started to talk to

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 2>her and then I was like, listen to me. Girls,

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:02.959
<v Speaker 2>put your hands on the sand, put your hands at

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the shore. And they're like looking at me, and I

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, dear ocean, like did a whole thing like

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.239
<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you for providing for us, thank you

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>for letting us like eat from you, let us like

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 2>for helping us thrive. And so they like repeated after me,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 2>and I was like and then they're looking at me

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and like they're like whatever, but I'm like they think

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm crazy.

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But then three days later, everyone to the beach and.

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 2>They're like the ocean said get in, and I was

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 2>like I'm drinking. And then Ari was like, ocean, her

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>mom's drinking right now. I was like, you smart ass,

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>but it's true, like they're being attuned through us, you know,

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 2>like just the simply the energy of seeing and hearing

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.239
<v Speaker 2>what's happening. Because even when I got that reading, they

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>were downstairs but they couldn't really hear, but I'm sure

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>they're like what the fuck are they up there doing

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and hearing bits.

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And pieces of it.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 2>And I was like kind of sharing with Luna, like

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>who who we were to each other in a different

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>life that we were husband and wife and.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>She's like what and like but just having the.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Having the mindset and the like the scope broadening the

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>scope because as a kid, if your parents don't believe

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>in certain things, a lot of times you don't even

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>think of those things. So for her even to have

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 2>the like the two sons, that's like, okay, hey we

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>could talk to the ocean, Hey we could talk to

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>spirit guides. Hey I can you know like we've maybe

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.239
<v Speaker 2>lived other times and we've been here together before. It

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>just broadens their like young minds imagination. It's like we're

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have to do so much less work undoing

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>the socialization because they've been with us in these spaces

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and it really is a beautiful, beautiful thing to witness,

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>and like even just as moms, we say things and

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 2>we plant seeds and then we keep going and we

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 2>hope that it we hope that it like imprints on them,

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>but it does. And you know, this brings me to

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 2>our affirmation. Lenna was having a having it like being

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>scared to go to sleep and saying she was scared,

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm brave, I'm strong, I'm powerful.

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Nothing's coming to get me. I'm safe. I'm brave, i'm strong,

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 2>i'm powerful. Nothing's coming to get me.

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm safe.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>And like a few weeks later, she was like getting nervous,

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>like she was getting scared of something, and out of nowhere,

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>she was like, I'm brave, I'm strong, I'm powerful, nothing's

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>coming to get me.

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm safe. And I was like, yes, oh my gosh,

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I remembered it. I don't remember it.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, Like it reminded me that

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>she's always listening and she's always watching, and like it's

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>powerful to plant these small seeds of there are powers

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>outside of us that you can tap into, you know, So.

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's true. I guess I guess I didn't

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>correlate the experience that we had in Mexico with this

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>experience that I witnessed yesterday. But it's definitely they're definitely linked.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And even tell you saying that, you know, Luna practically

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>adopting practice or adopting that affirmation even before Iri was

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>doing her thing. She she was like, Okay, I'm gonna

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>take some deep breaths, and so she was like, and

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I noticed, like there was a difference between when she

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't take those deep breaths and her trampoline performance versus

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>when she did, Like she just performed better. And she

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>knows that that is a tool that she needs to

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>use when she wants to focus, she wants to ground.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>So I am. I am grateful that we've been able to,

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, create these spaces for them to come, even

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>if we are hiding them from the world. We didn't

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>hit them, we didn't want to hide them. But you know,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these women are coming to get away

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>from their kids, away from their kids, and you know

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't I know, for me, like I don't want

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to swim in a pool with a bunch of kids.

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my retreat, Like no thanks.

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Even though we loved thembod on the pool the last day,

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and I really I do. I like I like them

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>being able to see us like adorn ourselves, be half

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>naked and go back out, come back in.

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And like I know our They saw a lot of

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>outfit changes and transitions in between the retreats between us,

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like wearing lingerie half naked us coming in wearing wichy

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>shit and long gloves with glitter.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>On our eyes, us howling, hearing people scream, seeing other

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>women walk around naked, like even if it was briefly,

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I think it is really important for

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>them to just be attuned in that in that space

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and see what it looks like for women outside of

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>us to be naked and to be free and to

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>be in like in a circle. So and then oh,

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and then Luna said something to me which I was like,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't even thought about. And she's like, I was like,

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, our hope is that you're gonna

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>this is our first time here, and we're gonna do

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>another location, another location so we can continue to like

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>explore and find, you know, travel to new places together.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, when you guys are done, with

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 2>the good vibe tree are me and I A gonna

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>take it?

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yes, you are, baby.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>That was like her thought process, like even understanding, like

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 2>this is something that she wants to do, even though

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>she's not really one hundred percent sure what the fuck

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>we're doing over there, She's with it, you know, And

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm proud, you know.

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is it backward time? It is?

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I need to smuggle back with Okay, I rolled it

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>the vanilla, but let me just add my little a

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>little honey.

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm still processing everything that happened at the retreat.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>This was our first time going away from Costa Rica

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and hosting women in a different space, and it was different.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>It felt different, but all in but in the best

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>ways possible. I think. I think there's definitely a different

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>energy when you're next to the ocean versus tucked away

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>into the jungle. Both of these groups were a lot

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>more intimate. They were smaller groups than we've had before.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of people come back.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>We had three people who were who had come other

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>on other retreats that came to this one, which is

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>like super affirming for us since it feels really good

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that you trust like you had such a.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Good time the first time.

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Every time I do this, I feel like oddly like sexual,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>even though it really like skinny pinks. That's a long backwood,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>not just how I rolled it. Sorry, I got distracted

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>because I have a potty brain.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>What are we think? No? I was just thinking. No,

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I was just I was saying, it is affirming and

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>even We just announced our next retreat in Costa Rica

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>in February next year, and we already have four girls

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:36.479
<v Speaker 1>from this retreat that are coming to that retreat. So

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel good that we've created you know,

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>these circles where women feel safe or they feel recharged.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of these women went home and said,

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I feel activated. I'm not I'm not exhausted anymore.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to to make my dreams come true. I'm

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>ready to divorce my husband. I'm ready to love on

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>my head. I'm ready to stop doubting myself. I'm ready

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>to change my career. I'm ready to level up in

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>my career. And that's really the purpose of the retreat

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is to question everything and rebuild the best parts of yourself.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just really come back to your power, and

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I saw that happen. I saw that happen, and it

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.719
<v Speaker 2>is the most fucking rewarding thing I've ever seen. Like

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>to see people come one way and just slowly blossom

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>out of their comfort zones is literally the most beautiful

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>thing I've ever seen. Like I'm thinking of like Connie,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>who's like quiet, but then by like the last day,

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Like talking in the pool.

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Even Ashley, you know, like the first time she came

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>until this time she came turking in the pool. She's like,

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>take a picture of me, but ask naked, and I'm

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>like I love you, and like, yeah.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I would say like her transition has been the most

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.479
<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing I think I've ever witnessed, to be honest,

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>because where she was at in our retreat last year

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>versus this year, it's a totally different person, it.

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Is, and even even she recognizes it. And we had

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>someone who likes so proud of her, so proud, so proud.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I went out one night because I'm thirsty and

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to go salsa dancing, but it was

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>like the first night the girls got there, so I

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, anybody want to go out? And everyone's tired,

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>No one did to go, so I was like, fuck it.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Ashley was like I'll go. I was like, okay. She

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>barely spoke the first retreat. She was like, we're out here.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like okay, and then she offered some really

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 2>beautiful words to you know, another woman came who was

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>like releasing heavy, and she recognized that in her and

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>she was like, and you know, there's a moment me

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and Erica were embracing that woman and Ashley witnessed it

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and she told her. She's like, I really wanted to

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>tell you that that was me last year, and I'm

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 2>a totally like I feel totally different. So I'm just

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it's really brings me joy to see you experiencing what

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I experienced last year and just giving her, like giving

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>her encouragement that like everything can change after this, because

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it has for her, you know, And it really is

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the most rewarding, most beautiful, purposeful shit. I know I

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 2>say this every time, but like every time I do this,

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm so affirmed that I'm doing the right thing. I'm

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 2>so clear that women, especially Broun and Black women really

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>need spaces and each other to just be free.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And we've been so contained and so.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Hardcore because we got to do this, get the shit done,

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes we're not protected, because sometimes we're not supported,

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes we don't feel protected or supported, and so

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 2>that there's no time for crying, there's no time for

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>like giggling and bullshitting, there's no like naked. Why so

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just like giving women the opportunity to tap into that.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 2>That space is medicine, and I think we underestimate what

0:34:58.600 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 2>medicine looks like.

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>You think you Papa Zanex or an.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Advila, whatever the doctor prescribes to you, and you think, oh,

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you know this is medicine. But no, it's like being

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 2>around genuine ass women.

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, it's even too like I think about therapy,

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and you can sit in therapy for hours and hours

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and months and months and slowly start to feel the

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>effects of whatever the work is that you're working on.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like in these short five days it is

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>like therapy on crack because you're actually putting so much

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>of the work into practice. You're forced to get out

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 1>of your comfort zone and you're excited to do it.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Whereas therapy a lot of times is like a singular

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>practice that you have to work on by yourself. But

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're seeing women that are all in different maybe

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>aspects of their life, journeys of their life, taking off

0:35:55.560 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>their masks. It's giving women permission to do things that

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>they may not ever get to do, just being in

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 1>therapy and saying Okay, now go home and put this

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>put this conversation into practice, you know. And I think

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why we see such a rapid transformation in these

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>women's lives afterwards. And I'm not a therapist, but.

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>However, Ashley's Ashley's therapist recommended that she go on another retreat,

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and that made me feel really happy, and I'm like,

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>more therapists should recommend retreats like this so that women

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 2>can have these experiences, because it truly that fuck the prescription,

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>this is the prescription, right, And when she told me

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 2>her therapist recommended it, I was like, smart therapist, Now

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 2>it's true.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I think even for me it's there. It's been extreme

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>therapy and I've had to face a lot of things too.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>Even this last retreat, I realized, I think I don't

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>necessarily label myself as an mpath. I think maybe because

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>my idea of what an m path looks like, I

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know I've had I guess a specific view on

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>what an mpath looks like. I realized that I am

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>in a different way and that I take on a

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of energy unwillingly, almost like I don't even realize

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking on energy because I feel like I'm really

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>good with like, okay, well, I know how to compartmentalize

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this boundary, like, oh my gosh, she's going through a release.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be here to support her and we're

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>going to work through this, and that's that. But I

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>realized I have to have things in place if I'm

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be in these spaces facilitating and also participating

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in the medicine with these women that allow me to

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>cleanse from these experiences. And I'm still I feel like

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>even today and now on doing some of some of

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the I don't want to say, I guess undoing some

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of the releasing some of the feelings that I've taken

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>on from other people that I didn't even realize I

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>took on, Like when we were supporting someone through you know,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>when we did our mushroom ceremony, we were supporting her.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of women that I know matin

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>her and also a fear of like, oh, if I

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>don't choose myself, I could be right here. I could

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>be right here, and it scared me and it carried

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that with me. And you know, when you are doing

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.919
<v Speaker 1>this kind of work, what I've realized is you do

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to have things in place afterwards to cleanse

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>yourself and to feel like, Okay, those things are not

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 1>part of me. I've helped someone transition through this journey,

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's not part of my journey. It's not mine,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not I haven't quite figured that out yet

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 1>how to do that. I know that like after these experiences,

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I probably need to take like four days to myself

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and do a lot of like spiritual shit for myself, saging, meditating, crying, swimming, massaging.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, But like I really took that for granted,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>or I think people take that for granted, because even

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to explain to my mom how I

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was feeling, and she didn't understand. She was just like, well, yeah, babe,

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>you can't take on people's energy. I'm like, I don't

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>think you get it. Like it's not intimate, it's not

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's not like I have I don't have control

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>over it. It's beyond my control. It's not something that

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, I had this conversation. It was heavy,

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>but that's your shit and this is my shit. Yes

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I can do that. But when there's like a lot

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 1>of feminine energy and just this power moving through the groups,

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like it's an invisible like latch onto you,

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like you don't even realize it's happening.

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what I've discovered in the retreats is that, like,

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 2>especially in that moment and a lot of moments, seeing

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>people really seeing people like hearing people's the things that

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 2>they're releasing, it's like it's all very similar. We've all

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>experienced similar things, and it's that's the thing. It's like

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 2>it's all of ours. It's collective, you know, and it's

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>not personal to us, but there's a collective attachment because

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I know that feeling. I understand what that looks like.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I understand if you don't release, this is what it

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>could look like. You see your mother, you see your grandma,

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you see you know friends that refuse to you know,

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 2>give themselves permission to release, and then you see like

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>what can happen if you don't honor that part of

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>you and you don't have practice and it is scary.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>That shit scared me too, And I saw my mom

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and I saw, like, you know, there's this, like there's

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 2>this you know, angry black woman's stigma and we all

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.479
<v Speaker 2>hate it, you know, like but it's like that's that's

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the stereotype. And it took me a while, like I

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>realize that exists, because yeah, bitches can be angry if

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>everything is put on you over and over and over

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and over again, and yet there are no tools to

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>show you how to move out of those spaces and

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>release it and choose yourself.

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's scary.

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>It's scary if I, like even for me, if I

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 2>hadn't come into this, you know, fallen into this space,

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.720
<v Speaker 2>who I could have become. And it's like, choosing joy

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>and choosing yourself is a real life job, and it's

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>a real life it should be really a huge priority

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>for us because it's not sustainable otherwise. And then you'll

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>be angry and bitter and resentful and you don't even

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking know why, and it's because you haven't given yourself

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to like pour it back out.

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I am sorry, I'm having this, like vision of like

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to explain, and like a lot of

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>these women are coming to do shadow work, whether or

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>not they realize it or not. And within these shadows,

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>there's like these there's these egos, there's these alter egos

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that start to kind of come off of their bodies

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and they start to kind of just wander around trying

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to find somewhere else to latch onto, like almost like

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>these shadows that are just like walking through the property

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>of our retreat, like Okay, well she's trying to get

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>rid of me. Where do I go now? And it's

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 1>like the ocean, the ocean. But I felt like these

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 1>shadows and these feelings and these energies were like touch

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.959
<v Speaker 1>like latching onto me in ways, not all of them,

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but there's a residualness that's happening as someone that's facilitating

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the retreat. And it's almost like a testing of my

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 1>own practices. It's like, oh, bitch, you want to open,

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to crack these bitches open? Oh you want

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you want you want their shit to spill out? Okay,

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>well I'm gonna come for you. And what are you

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do about it? What practices do you have in

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>place to protect yourself from this type of energy, and

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I realized that I didn't have I don't want to

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>say the armor, because I don't want to have armor

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>when I'm in these spaces, but I do have to

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>have a level of protection and I didn't and I haven't.

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 1>And so I think, moving forward, because I'm dedicated to

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>this journey of retreating and creating these circles for women,

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that I do have to figure out what that means

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>for myself. And that's leaning on other women that have

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>been in this space longer than me and asking them like,

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck do you do after experience like that?

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Because a bitch was crying in the room for like

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>three hours and I couldn't explain why. Even my daughter

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>came in. She's like, Mommy, are you okay? And I

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, am I traumatizing her. She's

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like one time when I was in Mexico, my mom

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>was leading retreats and then she cried in the room

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 1>for three hours and I kept coming in and she

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was still crying, not sure why, and it's like Mommy

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure either. But I think, now that I'm thinking

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>about it, that's really what it kind of felt like

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it felt like this this overspill of things that women

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>had been harboring for so long that had finally started

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to kind of release, and that energy has to go

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and it either goes, like you said, to the ocean,

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to the water, or it can attach to other people.

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>And it was kind of heavy. It gets heavy.

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 2>But for me, I feel like I have such I

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like it's new, it's different, but I'm so's

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm so clear about that outcome, you know what I mean,

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I can I can physically see the energy move

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>out and that brings me joy, you know, and like

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we don't like we're not perfect people and we're

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>just we're going on intuition, and but seeing it released

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 2>from people, seeing people purge and kind of finally let

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 2>go is so rewarding. And like I'm I am an EmPATH,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 2>like I can feel things very deeply. I'm also like

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm I'm I think I'm This trip

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of solidified and affirmed for me how much this

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 2>is my work, and so like.

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not afraid of it.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like I can embrace the hard times because

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I know there's like I know the other side of it.

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I do feel the sadness that there are people,

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 2>there are.

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Women who will never experience this.

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>There are women who will take that pain and that

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 2>hurt to the grave and to their next life and

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe their next life after that, you know, and like

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to have the privilege of giving someone the opportunity to

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 2>put that shit down right now is so it's so rewarding.

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>It also is scary as that, like I have the

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I have the power to facilitate that. And also I

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.760
<v Speaker 2>may not ever save some of the people the closest

0:45:55.760 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>people to me, and not save but like help, Like

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I know these tools, but like there are people that

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 2>are so close to me that they can't receive the medicine.

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, they won't. They won't, and they can't because

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>they've judged you or judged me. And and that's the

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>whole reason people come on the retreat and why we

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>encourage people to come by themselves, because people will hold

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you to a certain standard or to your choices that

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you've made and cannot see you as a healer, cannot

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>see you as someone that can facilitate like a heart

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>opening experience for someone a transformation of breakthrough, and that's

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>why it's so important for women to come alone on

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>these retreats. But also it is heartbreaking to know that

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>there's certain people that not that like we're going to

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>go and save all of our friends, but like just

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we can't even see each other eye

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to eye in that way, because honestly, like part of

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.959
<v Speaker 1>that there's there's a healing for me or for you

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>with that person. If they were open to it, it would

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>be a mutual exchange of healing. It's always a mutual,

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. And so it is I think about like

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the women in my life, my mom, you know,

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>we've had this is our second time we've had a

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>mom and daughter come on the retreat, and more and

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 1>more I envy it me too. I'm like, and my

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>mom says she wanted to come this last one, and

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god. But then I also

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like, please don't. I'm scared. But I know

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I hope that I hope that one day we can,

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that one day I won't feel that way,

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that she'll be able to come and

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>receive something from me, and I will be able to

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>receive something from her that maybe I wouldn't I haven't

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>been able to receive in our everyday life.

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I think when women come like they don't know us,

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's not so they're not they don't

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 2>have a previous expectation of how we're supposed to show up.

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 2>But I think a lot of times in the worlds

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that we live in in general, it's like, oh, you

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 2>don't have a degree in healing, you don't have you

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have a therapy degree, or you didn't like you.

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Do twenty two hours of reiki training right or whatever

0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the fuck whatever?

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Just if oh you didn't get your therapy license or whatever,

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like whatever justifies putting your stuff down and telling someone

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the truth, you know, being vulnerable with somebody whatever, whatever

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>that is. That's like, oh, this person's my therapist, so

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 2>she's eligible and has credentials enough to receive what I'm saying.

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes those bitches have are fucked up too and

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>they haven't put their shit down, and then it's it's

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 2>projecting back.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Onto you, you know what I'm saying.

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's just like, it's unfortunate that we live in

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a society that has like so much it's really white

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 2>supremacy that doesn't allow us to see people for what

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>they are. Because when I look at myself in this space, it's.

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Back what is good.

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 2>There's imposter syndrome sometimes, and there's fear, and there's like

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 2>doubtfulness about you know, what.

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I should be doing or how to do it.

0:48:54.920 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 2>But I realize, like the person that I've always been, like,

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm very empathetic, I'm very compassionate. I want to talk

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>to people. I want to stare into your eyes. I

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>want people to loosen up. I want people to accept themselves,

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that's always just kind of been who

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I am. But I'm like, oh, like all these traits

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>are traits that have always existed in me. Well, the

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 2>traits is what your expertise is, do you know what

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 2>But we're still busy trying to go learn traits from

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.319
<v Speaker 2>something that is your expertise, from some you know, some

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>campus that we forget to actually scan ourselves and say, like,

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 2>this is actually what I'm good at. You know, I

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 2>heal because I like to talk to bitches in the

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 2>bathroom every time, Like I go out and I don't

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 2>have to do much and women will come to me,

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you want to be my friend. But

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>it's because I have a friendly demeanor. I don't feel

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 2>like I don't think I feel intimidating, and so I

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>can make friends easily.

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:50.959
<v Speaker 1>But you know, in this space, it's just like.

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 2>We're doing mushrooms and we're like in this beautiful on

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the fucking ocean, and I just watched like it was

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 2>a nishe and I think, uh, who's our fairy?

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Nisha, no, Stacy.

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Nisha and Stacy were just like dancing together, like holding

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 2>each other, twirling in the sunlight, and I like, I

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 2>just started to cry because I'm like, as soon as

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I doubt anything that I'm doing, it's like, it's not

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:25.399
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, it's who you are. And it brought

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 2>me so much joy to bring someone else joy. And

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that's really like, if you're an impath, that's really what

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to be doing, is because if you're feeling

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 2>all the time and you're surrounded by places and people

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 2>that are not feeling good, it's a burden. But if

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you're an impath and you're creating pleasurable spaces for other people,

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 2>and that are people who are truly in joy then

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 2>you were walking in your purpose. And you know, there

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 2>were a couple of things that just affirmed that for

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 2>me and this, you know, Micosa reading, so a lot

0:50:58.120 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 2>of cards that we pulled.

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>In fact, after we supported that woman.

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 2>That night, it was you know, we did our we

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 2>did a self devotion ceremony where we dressed up in lingerie,

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>we watched the sunset and you know, we danced together

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and we how and we feel like sensual and sexy

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 2>in our bodies. And afterwards we just kind of like

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 2>everybody went down and there's just Eric, Kay and I

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 2>and then Aaron shout out to Aaron and our girl

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>was up there and she was just like, I just

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 2>want to tell you that you guys are walking in

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>your purpose and I can see it and I'm really

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>proud of you. And I just was like, you can

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 2>see it, you think, so you know, like thank you,

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, thank you, and I feel that and I

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>received that and then I pulled a card and it

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:47.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah.

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 1>You're walking in your purpose.

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you're working, you're walking in your purpose and

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:52.879
<v Speaker 2>it may not be the conventional way way.

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was really powerful that moment. That moment was

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>super powerful and we all cried.

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Just ride in the around the altar, in the in

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 2>the like in the darkness under the moon, and then

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>laughed hysterically, and it was just like, this is how

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it always has been historically, and this is a part

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 2>of the culture of like the culture of being a

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 2>woman that has been forgotten. And I deeply feel that

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:25.479
<v Speaker 2>it is our purpose and our calling to bring back

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 2>those circles and bring back and normalize these these practices

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 2>and really bring black women and brown women and women

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 2>in general to the understanding that this is our in

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.919
<v Speaker 2>our nature and it's not some devil the devil which shit,

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, it's some God shit. This

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>is actually the best way, the best path to God

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.800
<v Speaker 2>is through you. And if you are avoiding parts of yourself,

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 2>if you're not healing places that hurt, you will not

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>be able to access that that that God.

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>You can go to every fucking sermon.

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I swear to God, read every Bible verse.

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Every verse, every sermon, every Bible study, every private meeting,

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 1>every counseling session. And it's so true.

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of that, after one of our devotion dances,

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 2>we're literally all half naked. Some of us are naked

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>like this is like just everyone's questioning, like who can come?

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>If I'm white?

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Can I come? If I'm black, if I'm Christian? Like literally,

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 2>everybody comes, doesn't matter how old you are, if women's

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 2>oldest seventy, if women as young as twenty two, twenty one.

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like if you come in to get the medicine,

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 2>it's for everybody. There are no like the roles of

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 2>like age and like your career, all that shit goes

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>out the window.

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>We're just women girls. Really.

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 2>When I looked at us in a circle, I was like,

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>we're just little girls playing, you know, and we all

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 2>deserve like space to play as little girls together and

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>hug and like and it's just oh, so we're all

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:58.360
<v Speaker 2>standing in a circle after our session, and one of

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>the girls is like, first of.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>All, first she hold a huge.

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Bottle don Julio out of her room right like, poured

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 2>tequila in everybody's mouth. The boat drove the boat and

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 2>then athur and she was like, I'd like to share

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:18.720
<v Speaker 2>something like okay, she's like Third Corinthians thirty three sixteen.

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, okay.

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 2>She gave us a sermon, okay, like a full sermon,

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it took me a minute. You know,

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 2>first of all, everything everybody's welcomed. I personally am not

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>like a Bible goer, that's not like my form of practice.

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, let's welcome her and like in

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 2>her spiritual practice and welcome it here. And it was

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 2>literally a four minute sermon and we were all like

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 2>almost but ass naked, so it was kind of ironic.

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of funny. So we all kind of

0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 2>started laughing because we're like, not us pray praying to

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:01.280
<v Speaker 2>ge in our titties out.

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:05.400
<v Speaker 1>That is plat of the blood of Christ, but and

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and and everyone.

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Because people come from so many walks of life. There

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 2>are people who have been deeply traumatized from religion.

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>There are people who are very religious.

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 2>There are people who you know, initially didn't fuck with

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the stars and the moons, and they're like, maybe I do,

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's really a good it's a really

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 2>good safe place to practice acceptance of all people, of

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.359
<v Speaker 2>all types of things, of all practices, you know, and

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.240
<v Speaker 2>like be able to be like that's not for me, however,

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to support you, girl, you know what I mean, Like,

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe don't put the blood christ on me.

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.319
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you do cool. But you know,

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's a it's funny, like I'm thinking of, Yes,

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a great it's a great place to

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 1>put into practice acceptance and rebuilding your trust and love.

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Love for women, yes, for people. Know, for women, I

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>think too, because a lot of women come like they

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>judge each other, you know what I mean, Like we

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 1>can't we don't give each other any grace, you know.

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:11.760
<v Speaker 1>And when you go into this space, this container that

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>where you fall in love with someone, you're like, oh

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>my god, I love this trait about you. And then

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>they do some weird shit and you're like do I

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 1>love you? But then you're like, oh, I love you again.

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like you battle this thing back and forth because

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with people from all different walks of life,

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 1>with different personalities, and ultimately at the end there is

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 1>this lesson that yes I do, and like there we

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 1>have our differences, and but you're an ultimate at the

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. At the core, we are all

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 1>just women humans having this human experience, and there's a

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>level of patience that I think that I hope is

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a gift for the women that come to and acceptance

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and love despite whatever differences you think.

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 2>You have, because you will leave with friends you would

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 2>never have had Poblem regularly approached, have ever met, And

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it gives you this level of self awareness to say,

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 2>why am.

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I what is it about this person I don't like?

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know them, and what are those real reasons?

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, even for me, I just came off this

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 2>tantier retreat and uh, it's.

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Just it was school.

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of these people I'm seeing on zoom

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and there was one girl who's my friend and you know,

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 2>she kind of irritated me on zoom because she was

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:28.919
<v Speaker 2>asking telling long stories and I was just like I'd

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 2>made up in my mind like we're probably not like

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the besties. And then we got there and

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I fuck with you. And it really

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>is a reminder that connection connection, connection, and it's something

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that we've grown, you know, we've alienated ourselves away from.

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 2>But like, people are people, and we have to see

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>people's people, white, black, whatever, and it's so important to

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>be able to do that, and so often we're on

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>our screens that we don't have the opportunity to sit

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 2>and stare in somebody's eyes and then and be like, oh,

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 2>your tears are my tears because I was just crying

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 2>last night. Or let me hold you, let me console you.

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 2>But like this idea that like existence really is a

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 2>part of existence is connection, and if we try to

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 2>go around that and separate ourselves from others, that's also

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 2>how resentment forms, and like anger because you're not giving

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>yourself the same self acceptance because you're not giving others

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the same self acceptance, I mean acceptance, anger, sickness.

0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I just had this. I just had this thought, like

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of all the women in our wombs, like being connected

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>by this like thread.

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Well you know what I was thinking about in the circle.

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about Sylvia, and like everybody, imagine a

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 2>red hold from your vagina.

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>The earth.

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 2>But like I was thinking that, like a we're connected

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 2>this way. And also our wombs are connected to the

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 2>center of the earth, which are connected to the umbilical

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>cords of the trees, the roots that grow around us

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and support us and help us breathe, you know, And

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like we are this is a circular system, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're part of that system.

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<v Speaker 1>Our wombs are part of that system. They are but

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we've been so disconnected from our wombs. And

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>when you get into a space like this near water,

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>with all this feminine energy where women are just ready

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to let go, Like there's this deep connection that happens

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>where you are able to truly accept everyone for every weird,

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>fucked up, funny, strange, beautiful little part of them, you know.

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:34.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's why the circles are important, because women, we

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>need to not only connect back to ourselves, but we

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>need to connect back to one another, and we need

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to forgive one another and we need to trust one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've seen it happen. I've seen the power when

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<v Speaker 1>we all are just in flow, like when we're sitting

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>around our dinner table and we're flowing, and it's just

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it's what it's about, and it's why we've it's what

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't want us to have, and they've definitely torn

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<v Speaker 1>that part away. And so I'm excited when I see

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<v Speaker 1>other women throwing having retreats to like so many women

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<v Speaker 1>are awakening to this idea that we need to sit together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the womb is what connects us and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is badass birth in August, and so I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're starting this way just with like the womb, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's our heart. It really is one and

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<v Speaker 2>the same. And if you could disconnect from your womb

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<v Speaker 2>and the power that it holds, then you're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>disconnecting and hardening your heart. And I realized that when

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<v Speaker 2>we can come together as our true selves and connect

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<v Speaker 2>in a circle and like really embrace like each other

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<v Speaker 2>and each other's femininity, it births something. And like like

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<v Speaker 2>just like Eric and I, we talk about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>that our relationship birthed this, this studio birth, this podcast birth,

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<v Speaker 2>this sisterhood, and really it's an entity that was created,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when we linked up, When we linked up

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<v Speaker 2>and we decided going to be true friends and really

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<v Speaker 2>allow each other like this true bubble of space to

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<v Speaker 2>show up as like something higher than us took place.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what happens when we're in these circles,

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<v Speaker 2>is that an entity is created, and it's it's really

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<v Speaker 2>putting back the pieces of this ancient connection that we

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<v Speaker 2>have to sisterhood to each other, and it's like it

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<v Speaker 2>really is healing the world. You can't heal the world

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<v Speaker 2>without healing the women, and you can't heal the women

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<v Speaker 2>without healing the relationships that we have with one another.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like so grateful that our connection, our

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<v Speaker 2>entity birthed these spaces birth, the good vibratory birth, this

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<v Speaker 2>power that we both innately have begin to recognize and

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<v Speaker 2>uncover through our relationship. And now we've had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to like allow it to uncover the relationships with other

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<v Speaker 2>people and the power of other people. And like, there

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<v Speaker 2>are friends from the retreat, Bessie's two girls came back

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<v Speaker 2>from the two girls that came together, were on a

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<v Speaker 2>trip together, came back together. And the truth was, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize they were like that close even during

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<v Speaker 2>the retreat. But they traveled together, they stayed together, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've been in contact, and like that happens all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but we underestimate how important that is to our healing,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't take we prioritize.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't do it alone. We cannot do it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hmmm. That was beautifully said, No, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just think blum power a mo ma ma ma

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<v Speaker 1>ma ma ma, ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom hm ah. We just chanted the the seeds for

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<v Speaker 2>fire element, which is at your root chakra. It's your

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<v Speaker 2>sex chakra, and it is for magnetization. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to magnetize something, bring it to you. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>you tap in, tapping into the elements of the of

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and of the earth. So such a witch, such

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<v Speaker 2>a witch?

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<v Speaker 1>Dare you use nature and elements to conjure up things

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself? I know? How crazy? Why else wud God

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<v Speaker 1>put him here? Why would you do that? Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you use what God put here? How dare you the

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<v Speaker 1>devil God to a lab and make something up? Generic

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<v Speaker 1>is how you do it? That's what Jesus wanted. Plastic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the simple things that are truly going to be

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<v Speaker 2>our saviors. And that's the ship that God herself made.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it simple, baby, fire, earth, water, space, air. I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking that today actually, like, truly keep it simple,

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<v Speaker 2>keep the shit simple. Wellness does not need to be

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<v Speaker 2>your wellness, your spiritual physical That does not have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a twenty two step routine. Like you can go

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<v Speaker 2>to the ocean and feel good. You can masturbate and

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<v Speaker 2>feel good, you know, like I can hula hoop this

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<v Speaker 2>morning and that brought me joy and set me off.

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<v Speaker 2>This morning because I woke up with attitude and then

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<v Speaker 2>I had hula hooped and I felt so much better

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this was the simplest shit I

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<v Speaker 2>could have done free inspired by my daughter crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I think we need to Well we

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<v Speaker 1>all know obviously they're like, you know, they're the closest

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<v Speaker 1>thing to God, right, we all say that. And what

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<v Speaker 1>do they do all day? Play and eat and be merry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's too why the retreat is special too,

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<v Speaker 1>because it does. It feels like adult camp, and we

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<v Speaker 1>do kind of keep it simple. It's very basic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not basic because you know, we're like, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>lux bitches, but basic in the ideas of the practices

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<v Speaker 1>that we're encouraging. Hey, scream, bitch luxury amenities. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day I was medicine. I needed to scream,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I got my pillow and I

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<v Speaker 1>screamed so fucking loud, and I was like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to text the discord and tell them scream here today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to is it scream in a pillow Challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think women need to scream and pillows at least

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<v Speaker 1>once a week. Actually, if you're listening right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to encourage you. You're in your card, in your car.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in your car, car, yes, but you're driving,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you got to get out of control. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to encourage you to get that pillow, put

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<v Speaker 1>your face in it, and scream for at least one minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter of fact, set a timer, because just when you

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<v Speaker 1>scream for a minute, no it's not you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to take breaks. But just when you think you've gotten out,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more. And I think that's also kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>what I've experienced at the retreat when we do our workshop,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's there's always more, you know, And as

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<v Speaker 1>women like, we don't release in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially don't scream because you think it's crazy exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm crazy exactly. But why were we given

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<v Speaker 1>these voices to only speak at a certain decimal all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that makes people feel comfortable. No, we were

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<v Speaker 1>given it to fucking use it. And I think some people,

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<v Speaker 1>like not most people, they have never screamed ever, except

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<v Speaker 1>in maybe an argument, right, you know, and even then

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't loud enough, it wasn't really what you felt,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you still or okay, it just comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>so you still suppressed it, and you suppressed it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't say certain things, yeah, because you're worried about

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<v Speaker 2>the other person's feelings. That that's you know what I

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<v Speaker 2>realized too. We do We did to mescal ceremony and

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<v Speaker 2>you go into a pitch black dark oven. Essentially there's

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<v Speaker 2>hot rocks in the center and you pour water over

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<v Speaker 2>roam from shamans. And the first thing I noticed is

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<v Speaker 2>that the darkness gives people power over their voice. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it's the hot ass circumstances too, but it's the darkness

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<v Speaker 2>where you get to hear people's sounds, their primal groans,

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<v Speaker 2>their moanes that were in any where. If I could

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<v Speaker 2>see you or you wouldn't do it. If I could

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<v Speaker 2>identify who that noise was coming from, I would be more,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more self conscious than to do it. And like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy how we just I don't know the word

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for, like deprive ourselves of the privilege of

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<v Speaker 2>using our voice, even on a very primal sound level.

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<v Speaker 2>But you see kids do it all the time. They

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<v Speaker 2>throw tantrum, scream, don't give a fuck where they're at

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<v Speaker 2>target and you're in the first thing, you're like shut

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck off. You're embarrassing us, you know. Oh yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying, Like, that's why kids they

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<v Speaker 1>they are, they're so such powerful beings, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important to try to preserve that part of

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<v Speaker 1>them and trying to awaken that part of us. Screaming

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<v Speaker 1>is like again, keeping it simple. It's such a basic concept,

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<v Speaker 1>such a basic release that you could do to make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized, like the entire retreat is physically and

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<v Speaker 2>spiritually a rebirthing. We literally get naked as if we're birthing,

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<v Speaker 2>We literally submerge in water. We literally scream and grunt

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<v Speaker 2>and moan and laugh, and it's like we really let

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<v Speaker 2>these this darkness pass through us, and we support each

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<v Speaker 2>other in birth, but it's really the birth of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And Erica and I are the duels, and all the

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<v Speaker 2>women who attend are the duels to one another. To

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<v Speaker 2>usher out these parts of us that we've forgotten, and

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<v Speaker 2>the parts of us that we've forgotten, to let go

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<v Speaker 2>of the pain, the disappointments, you know, the attachment to

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<v Speaker 2>things we no longer want to be attached to, that

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<v Speaker 2>we all share common common ground on and like the

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<v Speaker 2>entire that's what it is like. Retreat is a duelied

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<v Speaker 2>rebirth of your room, of yourself and releasing the parts

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<v Speaker 2>of you that no longer serve you and calling back

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<v Speaker 2>in the inner child. It's a rebirth of your inner child.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes free to be in a childlike state. It

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<v Speaker 2>takes you to be at a pool in the sunshine

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach with your girls. It takes you to

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<v Speaker 2>be maybe with what girls you don't know anymore, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know at all, because you have the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to be who you were as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's really really, really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is nice to have the children there because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a reminder.

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<v Speaker 1>A reminder. Yeah, it's a reminder be like them, be

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Yeah. And they didn't have any problem telling

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<v Speaker 1>us their feelings either, because that's the same thing with kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Like our kids were like, this is how we feel.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you have us come out here? I could

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<v Speaker 2>have done this at home, is what Luno said. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you have been doing at your grandmother's house?

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<v Speaker 1>Playing? She said, no, I'm going to the jump zone.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, who was going to take you? She said Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, Marie is here, and and like her

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<v Speaker 2>saying you and I'm like, well, you're in a floor

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<v Speaker 2>to ceiling windowed castle off the side of the ocean cliff. Miss,

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<v Speaker 2>You're pretty lucky. I'd rather be playing here than somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like those are her feelings, and like

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that she had the intelligence and the vocabulary to.

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<v Speaker 1>Express Hey, bitch, you could have brought.

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<v Speaker 2>Me a little bit later in the game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't need to be here if you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to be spending time with us. And so like

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<v Speaker 2>we would do days of healing and then go do

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen tiktoks with our kids, you know, And that's like

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<v Speaker 2>that's another thing, being allowing each other to unravel and

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<v Speaker 2>express the feelings and normalizing listening to your daughter's feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>to your sister's feelings, you know. Even you know, our

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<v Speaker 2>nanny was like having a day because she's watching two

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<v Speaker 2>kids all day, being hidden, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, I was just having a hard day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the new moon, and you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy was bothering me. Whatever she was going through, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like girl, you have to express that. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk to us like this is a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the village, and it's like, no matter what's the relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even if it's not your closest friend, hold

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<v Speaker 2>space for the next woman, Hey are you good? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the type of bitch if I'm walking down the street

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<v Speaker 2>I can see a stranger crying, like are you good?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I will hug a stranger, you know whatever, But like

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<v Speaker 2>some sometimes we forget to do that or like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have time for this today.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. She got her own problems,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just like even in a work environment, even

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<v Speaker 2>with each other, even with their kids, in all spaces,

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<v Speaker 2>be compassionate and empathetic and recognize that, like it just

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<v Speaker 2>be having bad days because we're moody, because we feel everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a part of being a woman, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so we are like the water and we

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<v Speaker 2>can take on a lot of spaces and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of forms, but we're also very easily imprinted upon, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be like able to like guard it

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<v Speaker 2>and also give grace to others and listen and be

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<v Speaker 2>like you're right daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, listen, I thought that you would like

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<v Speaker 2>to be here with your friend. We're working right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm we're at the end, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 2>time at the end of.

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<v Speaker 1>The trip together.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all I could offer her is the truth,

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<v Speaker 2>and the truth is overall, she doesn't really give a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck about this big ass villa on the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>She just wants to hang out with her mom.

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<v Speaker 2>And she proved it because later on the last stretch

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<v Speaker 2>of the trip, my dear loving friend booked an airbnb.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on booking dot com, and booking dot com

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<v Speaker 1>had five stars, had lots of reviews. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know that it was very local.

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<v Speaker 2>We were on a budget, so it was very budget friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice side, it was nice on the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>On the outside it was sketch and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, just on I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>bougier than me. I'm boogier than you, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>before we went, and I was like, cancel it, find

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<v Speaker 2>another one. You're gonna You're gonna take me from the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the ocean mansion to.

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<v Speaker 1>This what the fuck we're grounding. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>two grounded.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we went inside and the girls were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's so amazing. Oh my god, it's beat Wait. Wait.

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<v Speaker 1>The best part was when they opened the windows and

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<v Speaker 1>the backyard was not It was like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a broken down garage of our next door neighbor, like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucked up, like lot, overgrown. It was not good

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<v Speaker 1>at all. They're like, the view is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh my god, there's so many hide and

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<v Speaker 2>seek spots. I was like, what the fuck? I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I a bitch? Because I was great.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like they were just happy to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the other spot that this means Mom's not working

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<v Speaker 1>it right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, they're going to be our friend. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they found the reason talk shit to us

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours later, but it was a true testimony

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<v Speaker 2>to they don't give a fuck, you know, but also

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, like the feelings, you know, accepting that even

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<v Speaker 2>people you work with, even people, everybody's gonna have feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>and why not validate them and give them a hug

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<v Speaker 2>and move on instead of taking it personally?

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, Sister, let the.

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<v Speaker 2>Church say amen, Do we need one of those buttons

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<v Speaker 2>like pasture pasture weed, so like.

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<v Speaker 1>That you put it right here? Hell yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I have to wear headphones. No, you know, refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>wear headphones. We're not those podcasters. This is a TV show.

1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Anytime we go to a podcast, DUDEO, they try to

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<v Speaker 1>give us headphones, We're like, we don't do them. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't do those. I have an afro. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's really gonna work for me, then.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be like our audio isn't good like bit

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<v Speaker 2>because you shouldn't be wearing your fucking headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, I'm really excited for our retreat in Costa Rica.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. It's like our It's like our home base.

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<v Speaker 2>It just keeps evolving, and it's really beautiful to witness.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we've gone somewhere else and coming back there

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<v Speaker 1>feels even more epic. For some reason, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just super excited to invite the women back to

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<v Speaker 1>like our home, our home base. Yeah. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in coming, if the good vibe sounds like your vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you check us out in Costa Rica February

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<v Speaker 1>first through the sixth or February eighth through the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be everything we just talked about plus more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a beautiful, beautiful property, such a beautiful space.

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<v Speaker 1>All the women that come are supposed to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this sacred sister sorority, spiritual sorority energy that

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<v Speaker 1>gets created when when we link up and we let

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<v Speaker 1>God kind of play the conductor of Okay, you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be here this you're gonna come on week one,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna come on week two. Even like this last

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<v Speaker 1>retreat one girl was supposed to be in week two

1:16:30.680 --> 1:16:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and then switched to week one, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you were supposed to be in this week for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just excited to bring you guys back to

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<v Speaker 1>Costa Rica. Let's make sure you check out the link

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<v Speaker 1>in our episode to get the details on that. We

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<v Speaker 1>pulled a card at the top of the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>did what was it? Oh? Got me a little? I

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<v Speaker 1>know back would be Hitt and girl.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the two Pentacles now two to one. Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>the two of Wand's.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Bitty Tiero. Should we email them one

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<v Speaker 1>day and tell them we like we use them exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>on the show We Can Trouble. I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever even told them we should.

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<v Speaker 2>Upright means future planning, progress, decisions, discovery, and HM. The

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<v Speaker 2>Two of Wan's takes the spark of inspiration from the

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<v Speaker 2>Ace of Wands and turns it into a clear action plan.

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<v Speaker 2>You went through the discovery phase, and now what you

1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>want to manifest? Now you need to figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>you're exploring your options and carefully plotting out the path ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>accounting for all possibilities and potential challenges. You are open

1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to growth and exploring new territories so long as you

1:17:50.000 --> 1:17:53.240
<v Speaker 2>maintain a level of certainty that your efforts will work

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<v Speaker 2>out in the end. When the Two of WANs appears

1:17:56.960 --> 1:17:59.280
<v Speaker 2>in a Taro reading, you're not ready to make your move.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more importan and that you establish a clear plan

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<v Speaker 2>before proceeding. The Two of One's is also about discovery,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly as you step outside of your comfort zone and

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<v Speaker 2>explore new worlds and experiences. It may take courage to

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<v Speaker 2>set out, but this card gives you the confidence of

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<v Speaker 2>self knowledge. You know what your goal is and you

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<v Speaker 2>are sure of its eventual fulfillment. Let your intuition and

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<v Speaker 2>passion guide you as you confirm your next steps. It

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<v Speaker 2>considers your It indicates you're considering longer term goals and

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<v Speaker 2>aspirations and are ready to plan what you need to

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<v Speaker 2>do to achieve them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, shout out to Mahogany Tiro all brown and black

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<v Speaker 2>people on the deck our favorite deck.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that resonates with I think, where I'm at, where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, long term plans. We've been doing this for five years, Darling.

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<v Speaker 2>Our baby is five years old. Entity be birthed, Entity

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<v Speaker 2>be birth is five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Shout out to everybody who's been listening for five years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's been quite a journey. If you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously hello all new listeners, But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an og listener, I love you. I fucking love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do love you. Thank you. Thank you for

1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:22.960
<v Speaker 1>staking by us, thank you for riding with us. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for not judging us or judging us, and then

1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:30.639
<v Speaker 1>not judging us again allowing us to be that process

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And I'm just I'm just grateful for this

1:19:36.280 --> 1:19:40.880
<v Speaker 1>space that I've been given to feel safe to share

1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the inner workings of my thoughts, my life, my mistakes,

1:19:46.920 --> 1:19:55.679
<v Speaker 1>my judgments, and I'm high me too, and I'm high,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you. I'm high at org, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm high. Well, what did you do? You? Letting me get

1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>high at work guys as hard as my end and

1:20:06.920 --> 1:20:09.599
<v Speaker 1>talk to my friend every week? Thank you appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, like if we'd even been friends had it

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<v Speaker 2>not been for the podcast like real friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, something told me to go to that bathroom, something

1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>told me to come to that bar, or something brought

1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:27.360
<v Speaker 1>me to your instagram somehow I didn't know to I

1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:29.920
<v Speaker 1>never saw you really before that, and so it was

1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:32.559
<v Speaker 1>all as it should be. Imperfect timing.

1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:36.599
<v Speaker 2>And thank God for like Luna and Iri being able

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<v Speaker 2>to have like the sisterhood that they have and be

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<v Speaker 2>able to grow up grow up with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at them in Mexico and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>they've known each other their whole life, like they they

1:20:48.800 --> 1:20:51.320
<v Speaker 1>will always have that and continue to have that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see how that evolves, what that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like as adults, teenagers and ten year olds, and

1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:09.960
<v Speaker 1>what however it goes. You know what a blessing is? Sisterhood? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>are you ready to get out of here, my love?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I have some work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a thirty page paper due, so gosh, college.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in college?

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<v Speaker 2>Is I'm almost a tantric practitioner and sexologists.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Oh my god, looks like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little like mole right here and it looked very

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<v Speaker 1>you look like for some reason, you look very official.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can see you, I'm Jamill Mapp, the tantric

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<v Speaker 2>practitioner and sexologists. How can I help you? How can

1:21:41.640 --> 1:21:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I help you vagina? How can improve your sex life?

1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:48.040
<v Speaker 1>How can I improve your pleasure? How can I help

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<v Speaker 1>you embody every juicy part of life, joy, sex, your sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, you can start by saying, I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 2>all my sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>When we were in the temescal at the retreat, I

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<v Speaker 1>literally heard and I don't know who it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know how every person sounds during sex. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the craziest thing to be in a womb and

1:22:16.040 --> 1:22:20.080
<v Speaker 1>hearing everyone's sex sounds. It was like I felt overwhelmed,

1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Like my heart started pounding, like I was my heart

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<v Speaker 1>was racing. I felt like this energy, like building and

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<v Speaker 1>building and building.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing about tantra that really like magical, like

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<v Speaker 2>whichy shit that happens in tantra is that it starts

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<v Speaker 2>to teach you and like unveil the power of sex

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<v Speaker 2>as women and like the power of pleasure, sexual pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't mean necessarily in you know, act in

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<v Speaker 2>act the sex act with someone else or like you know,

1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:54.759
<v Speaker 2>but just the energy, the energy, this life force energy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it also kind of it starts to help you cultivate,

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<v Speaker 2>like just destigmatizing it and not not not always having

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<v Speaker 2>to be erotic. And how even in unit like even

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<v Speaker 2>for like our self devotion ceremony, showing up in our

1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:13.559
<v Speaker 2>sexual essence and moving sexually and like sweating and.

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<v Speaker 1>Moaning and like doing it in.

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<v Speaker 2>A non erotic but erotic platonic space is powerful. It

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<v Speaker 2>is the exercise of the womb, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>we have to exercise that sex, that sex chock remove

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<v Speaker 2>it because that is really, especially as black women, like

1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:37.280
<v Speaker 2>something that's been taken from us quite literally, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>on a cellular level. We require that we have to

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<v Speaker 2>build back up that that muscle memory, that spiritual memory

1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:48.160
<v Speaker 2>of like how powerful that is without like thinking it's

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<v Speaker 2>gross or nasty or lesbian or whatever. The fuck things

1:23:51.640 --> 1:23:53.840
<v Speaker 2>people make it because I'm sure it's like people listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this are.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what the fuck are they doing at that retreat?

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<v Speaker 1>But like just like having it be for you and

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<v Speaker 1>not for an end result of something else, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what people think, like, oh, you want that

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<v Speaker 1>because you want attention, or you want to get fucked,

1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>or you want right, it's all about everything outside of yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you when we're in these when we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>these ceremonies, it's really about kind of building up that

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<v Speaker 1>sexual energy for yourself, in yourself, with each other and together,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no end result, there's no like except that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel you sweat it out. There is a result

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself. It's not for anything else. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>even as women, like if you are listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>and you're you automatically think because I think women think

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<v Speaker 1>if women come together and they're doing like sexy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>are they like lesbians?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they like it's something nasty happening there? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like no, Then we went downstairs and ate dinner, eat

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<v Speaker 2>delicious dinner, and I cried. There's just like a sensual

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of like being in tune your sexual essence without

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<v Speaker 2>having to give it away. And we've been so tainted

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<v Speaker 2>too to be thinking that that it means that we

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<v Speaker 2>want attention, that it means you want to get fucked

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<v Speaker 2>it literally, we have we have come up so far

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<v Speaker 2>from it because it's a form of protection. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>to protect ourselves in places because we haven't been safe

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<v Speaker 2>because historically bad things have happened to women who are

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<v Speaker 2>sexual or sensual. But it's you have to remember that

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<v Speaker 2>that is not the truest essence of it, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>not how it's supposed to be. And being in those

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<v Speaker 2>type of environments and cultivating those type of ceremonies and

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<v Speaker 2>just energy is powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can just see tribes women.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing it all over the world in ancient times in

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<v Speaker 2>very little clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But just like bringing back the sex, bring back the sex,

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<v Speaker 1>bring back sex again, I'm bringing sex back, bringing sex, feedback,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing sex back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm brilliant sex back, bringing sex back to the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make those red Donald Trump hats that's say,

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<v Speaker 1>bring back sex again, make sex, make sex, makes sex

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<v Speaker 1>great again, make sex pleasurable again, bring back sex, make

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<v Speaker 1>sex good again, good again. We're gonna work on work

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<v Speaker 1>in progress. Oh my gosh. Anyway, I love you, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you, thank you, thank you, thank you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>Just moving up, Elana J.

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<v Speaker 2>Sologala record The Lallos and Elas

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm