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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcast. We're here today.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to break down exactly what we did in

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Speaker 3: French Lick, Indiana. But today I have three incredible people,

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Speaker 3: incredible friends, and we just spent a couple of days

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Speaker 3: playing golf together. Now, golf is not a topic that

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Speaker 3: listeners love to listen about.

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Speaker 2: None of us are pros.

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Speaker 3: Nobody really cares about how good Dean is compared to me.

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Speaker 3: But I do want to talk with Joe, Zach and

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Speaker 3: Dean who are on this trip to French Lick. Now,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of background I mentioned a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: For years of my life, I bet it's been ten

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Speaker 3: years of my life. I've always dreamed of bringing my

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Speaker 3: friends together into one place to hang out with no

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Speaker 3: other expectation other than to be together. And the reason

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Speaker 3: for this is I feel lucky. I don't think every

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Speaker 3: already gets this opportunity. I feel lucky that I have

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Speaker 3: a lot of friends from all different stages of life

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Speaker 3: that I just really like, and a lot of them

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen in a while. And it gets harder

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Speaker 3: and harder to get together as we get older. Family,

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Speaker 3: star work starts, people move across the country. So I

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Speaker 3: invited forty two people to French Lick. Two people couldn't

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Speaker 3: make it. Forty dig come, including three of my favorites

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Speaker 3: from The Bachelor time in my life, as I mentioned, Zach, Joe,

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Speaker 3: and Dean, who are with us today.

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Speaker 4: Welcome guys, Hi, thank thanks for having me, Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 5: Ben.

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Speaker 2: Of course I'm going to start. We're all so awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's just like media.

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Speaker 3: Hi, thank you for being here. Now I want to start.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to start with Dean on this one. Dean,

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Speaker 3: the Bachelor obviously has a huge impact in your life

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Speaker 3: because of it leading you to your amazing wife, obviously

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Speaker 3: kind of leading us into friendship. So that's a big

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Speaker 3: plus for you and me. But am I wrong to

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Speaker 3: say that you don't exactly desire to still be integrated

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Speaker 3: in that world as much as some.

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Speaker 4: You're saying me personally?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you personally, I mean, I just I guess.

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Speaker 6: That's that's probably true. They're it's just I'm not really Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's true.

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Speaker 4: That's true. I'll just go with that. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: go with that's being true. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So a trip pops up with with friends, but

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Speaker 3: people from The Bachelor, So Joey was there, Wells was there.

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Speaker 3: Then the three of us in addition to that, what like,

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Speaker 3: what kind of things do you still say yes to?

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Speaker 3: And do you say and yeah, that's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: my speed. This is you know, this is not a

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Speaker 6: Well, it's not even it's it's not that, it's just

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Speaker 6: you know, I love you so much. I would move

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Speaker 6: mountains for you if I was physically capable of doing it.

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Speaker 6: So when you invited me on the golf trip.

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Speaker 4: I was thrilled to be. I don't know that you

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Speaker 4: have forty two invites and forty yeses.

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Speaker 6: Is that is an incredible success rate with getting people

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Speaker 6: to come out to Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I think he should be really proud of that.

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Speaker 6: But no, I mean, obviously, you know, I think I

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Speaker 6: golf with you and Joe and I met Zach for

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Speaker 6: the first time and that was a great experience too,

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Speaker 6: so and we kind of talked a little bit about

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Speaker 6: what you're asking right now, because you know, Zach's removed

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Speaker 6: himself a little bit. It's not like unconsciously removing myself

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Speaker 6: by the way. I love the show and what it's

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Speaker 6: to for them. It's just I don't really get has

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Speaker 6: to anymore. No one really cares about me, so you know,

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Speaker 6: it's kind of it's kind of that situation. But no,

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Speaker 6: this the Bachelor stuff, like you know, with you and Wells,

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Speaker 6: Zach and Joe and Joey. I think that was kind

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Speaker 6: of our Bachelor group that was there, all guys that

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Speaker 6: if you did a full Bachelor, it's like forty people

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Speaker 6: from the Bachelor's style trip golf trip. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if I still say yes to it, because I could

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Well, I tried to do that a few years ago

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Speaker 3: with Almost Famous, and I had like four people show up, So.

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Speaker 4: Actually, you know, you know what I do think.

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Speaker 6: I remember getting the like a loose invite for that,

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Speaker 4: Probably not going to go to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably not going to make it.

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Speaker 3: You know I'm with you, though, I think the whole

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Speaker 3: purpose of me bringing you guys on today. I got

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Speaker 3: Solheim Cup and the LPGA last year, really for the

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Speaker 3: first time, and Joe and I have crossed pass and

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Speaker 3: I just have always enjoyed being around Joe. We've gone

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Speaker 3: on a few iHeart trips back in the day together.

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Speaker 3: But then you know, you picked up the clubs Joe

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Speaker 2: A year ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I remember talking with Zach and him just

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Speaker 3: telling me that you you love this game, like this

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I become addicted to things that I'm really bad at,

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Speaker 7: and like I'm really bad at golf. So I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: well I'm gonna give this a few years and see

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Speaker 7: if I could actually get better. But it's and like

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Speaker 7: every golfer says, it's like that one shot that keeps

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Speaker 7: you coming back where you're like, oh damn, like I'm

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Speaker 7: I'm good at this game, like I'm good at golf,

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Speaker 7: and then you go up and then you go back

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Speaker 7: out there and you can't hit. But I think it's

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Speaker 7: also one of those things where I'm getting older, I'm married,

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Speaker 7: I'm really just kind of like the going out part

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Speaker 7: of my life is basically over. So it's like, what

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Speaker 7: what else is there to do? And it's you know,

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Speaker 7: you go to the gym, you run what, you try

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Speaker 7: to make money to the best of your abilities, and

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Speaker 7: it was just it's just like a social event that

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Speaker 7: I can now do, like all my friends golf, and

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Speaker 7: I've seen you guys post about golf a lot, so

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm like, oh man, feeling left out. I

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Speaker 7: want to get involved in this. So yeah, and I

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Speaker 7: the US Open. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Joe's really that's a loser, Yeah for sure. No, I

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's on my iPad right here, like I

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Speaker 3: I mean again then we're not going to talk about

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Speaker 3: golf in detail this whole time. But I was impressed

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Speaker 3: with your game, Uh, not just impressed, like very very

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Speaker 3: And and so the whole time I was when I

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Speaker 3: you're never going to be able to get away from it.

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Speaker 3: You're like very close to having way too much fun

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Speaker 3: doing it.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there.

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Speaker 7: I'm right there.

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Speaker 2: I'm so close.

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Speaker 6: I was telling Joe and Zach as well that they're

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Speaker 6: going to kind of been like the most fun spot

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Speaker 6: of golf in my opinion, where you know, like you've

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Speaker 6: you're five handicaps something around there, you have to work

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Speaker 6: really really hard to shave a stroke off your handicap.

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Speaker 6: Zach and Joe only have to go out and play

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Speaker 6: golf right like consistently, and they're going to shave fifteen

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Speaker 6: strokes off their handicap. You know, Yeah, that's a really

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Speaker 6: fun time. I feel like for that for that to be, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't get better now, Like I haven't gotten better.

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Speaker 3: I only get worse. And I don't like that's not

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Speaker 3: joking because you kind of each the pinnacle of your

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Speaker 3: that like I haven't yet found no matter how much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't exist, Zach.

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Speaker 3: You know, I I gave these gifts, these Pennon They're

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Speaker 3: they're called penn and AS's headcovers, and I it's it's

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Speaker 3: a really cool brand. If if you ever are needing

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Speaker 3: gift or whatever for somebody that golfs, I would recommend

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Speaker 3: pennen Aces. Just check them out. They do these all

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Speaker 3: these unique head covers. I bet they have two hundred

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Speaker 3: different unique headcovers that they design and they throw out

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Speaker 3: got Dan one because I think he's a traveler. I

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Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna say I didn't. I wouldn't think

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Speaker 4: you would remember what you got me.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember, Yeah, I got you a leopard?

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Speaker 4: You got me a leopard? Good memory? Do you remember

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Speaker 4: everyone's that you got?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: These like I spent probably a week picking out these

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Speaker 3: gifts for each person, going through the website, kind of

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Speaker 3: thinking about what reminds me of each person. I got

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Speaker 3: Joe one that was the Ninja turtles because there's a

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get him something Italian and I was

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Speaker 3: so I was like, Ninja turtles are gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes, he goes, he goes.

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Speaker 7: I got you Ninja turtles. They're Italian.

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Speaker 8: I said, Summer is the season of love. Some are loving.

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Speaker 4: Here we come.

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Speaker 9: If you're old enough to remember, some are loving, you're

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Speaker 9: old enough to find and I do Part two. Listen

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Speaker 9: each week as our host make it their goal to

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Speaker 9: find you the next true love of your life.

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Speaker 8: Any Garth, Jana Kramer.

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Speaker 9: Alexia Napola, Cheryl Burke, Jen Fessler, Kelly Ben Simone, Amy Robock,

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Speaker 9: and TJ. Holmes are dedicated to helping you fall in

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Speaker 9: love again. It's time to make it hot Hot Hut

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Speaker 9: this summer.

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Speaker 7: Listen to I Do Part two on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 7: Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Zach's one, and I think all of us can attest

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Speaker 3: to this. He's doing great things in this world, and

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Speaker 3: he is changing the world through the work that he does.

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Speaker 3: And so it's just been fun to kind of witness

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Speaker 3: and be around you, Zach, as you are so busy

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Speaker 4: Go in sign I was.

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Speaker 6: I felt for you in that moment, because there's nothing

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Speaker 3: I think they felt I think they felt for Zech too.

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Speaker 2: I think you said it perfectly.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing against the bat I would love to

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Speaker 3: it's do you golf?

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Speaker 2: And then do I like you? But mostly do you golf?

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Speaker 3: It was fun for me selfishly, it was great because

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Speaker 3: French Lick Indiana one hundred percent recommend for any golf trip,

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Speaker 3: you will not have a bad time. Do you guys agree?

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Speaker 3: Did it live up to expectations? This again, you have

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Speaker 3: no obligation to say it did.

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Speaker 2: Loved it. I had a great time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was great.

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Speaker 6: The courses were amazing, a lot more challenging than I

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Speaker 6: think that I'm used to, at least here in Colorado.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're they're longer than the course of in Colorado,

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Speaker 6: tricky thing playing with you guys is you guys all

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Speaker 6: hit the ball so far and I don't really hit

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Speaker 6: it very far. So I'm hitting driver three wood into

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Speaker 6: a par four while Wells is hitting a driver for

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Speaker 6: eight iron, you know. So that part was a little challenging.

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Speaker 6: But the courses were great. It's it's it's way more

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Speaker 6: fun to to play a challenging course like that, in

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Speaker 6: So the golf was amazing. The casino was great. It

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Speaker 6: was cool to see Joe in his element, and and

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Speaker 6: and thriving in the casino and the Pacers, games Man,

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Speaker 6: the pace with you guys, that.

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Speaker 4: Was amazing as well. So yeah, top to bottom as

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Speaker 4: good as it possibly could have been.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 3: It was a great place, guys. I'm so thankful that

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Speaker 3: you said yes to it. You're you're good people, You're

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Speaker 3: good friends to many more years of this. We got

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Speaker 3: to come up with a name. I'm open to do

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Speaker 3: But we got to come up with a good name

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Speaker 3: for this trip because it's a way for us still

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Speaker 3: to get together. Dean, Zach, Joe. Any last closing words

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Speaker 6: No, No, I'm really grateful to know you, Ben, because

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Speaker 6: that helps me get to hang out with these guys

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Speaker 6: more often. It's really cool to see you with your

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Speaker 6: forty friends that you invite to a trip like that,

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Speaker 6: because everyone was amazing, and that's a testament to you

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Speaker 6: and the people that you are able to get around you.

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Speaker 6: I think that was an amazing experience, and I'm excited

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Speaker 6: for more. I hope we can do this or something

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Speaker 6: like this once a year or more. You know, every

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Speaker 6: of these program trips, I always get very very jealous

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Speaker 6: hope we got to do it a million times again.

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Speaker 3: I will say, when you say that you're jealous, I

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Speaker 3: would be jealous too, Like I get it, like I

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Speaker 3: feel for you. I don't know what to do about it.

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Speaker 3: There's like I have no control, but I get it

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Speaker 3: and I feel it. And if I was on the

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Speaker 3: outside of that and there I am on some of

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Speaker 3: those things like the American Century, I'm always jealous. I

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Speaker 3: don't even watch anymore because I just get mad. I'm

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Speaker 3: not mad at the people there. I just get sad

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Speaker 3: that I'm not there in Tahoe. So maybe we can

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Speaker 3: create our own little Tahoe and you all will have the.

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Speaker 2: Invite every year.

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Speaker 3: We'll just we'll do it on our own, because if

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Speaker 3: people don't invite you to something, you just got to

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Speaker 3: create it. And I'm with you. The courses that we

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Speaker 3: played were very challenging.

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Speaker 5: Dean.

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Speaker 2: My dad told me yesterday. I talked to him and

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Speaker 2: he goes.

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Speaker 3: I think you're trying to completely annihilate any confidence I

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Speaker 3: ever had on the golf course because of French lick.

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Speaker 3: And then we played Congressional this week together. He said,

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Speaker 3: this is getting to be really frustrating for me, and

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, just makes you better, Dad, Just keep grinding.

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Speaker 3: You know what, There's room for improvement even in your sixties. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: you're the best. I appreciate you. Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: This has been the Almost Famous podcast. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: very soon. Until next time, I've been Ben.

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