1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody a Monday addition of Texans All Access 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: for you, it's our March gift. Well, it's that gift 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: every single week, and then it's that gift every single 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday. And I bestow upon you some 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: gifts as well. I'm your host for Technics All Access tonight, 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: John Harrit's football anost and sideline reporter, joined by the 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: voice of the Texans Mark Vandermer Mark, Good evening. How's 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: your week in my friend? Well, I think when you 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: say gifts, you always have to really pronounce the team 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: gifts because otherwise people think you're getting a gift or 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: a meme or something else, you know, So I think 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: that that gets confusing in today's social media vocabulary environment. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: But Johnny, I'm doing great free agency in less than 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: a week. Really with the legal tampering and all the 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: are we gonna get pre legal tampering news? Are we 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna get? You know what I'm saying. The legal tampering, 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: we get the signings not announced by the teams but 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: announced by the agents or over breaks the news, and 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: then you know, I always feel like whenever you do 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: or allow stuff like that, which they clearly do do 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: you get the pre legal Tampa ring? Is that going 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: on as we speak right now? These are questions that 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: I have when I'm excited about that, and it's Marx. 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: That means a lot of moving and shake it with 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: these NFL teams. And then next month it's draft time, baby, 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: and the Harris one hundred is out. And by the way, 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: my friend, congratulations to you for another fine edition of 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: hard work that the fans can enjoy. That few people 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: have the shops to put the time in, the effort, 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: the knowledge all of it that you in the Harris 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: one hundred do. So everyone's got to check it out 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com. It's awesome. Thank you very much. 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and that is that's my gift to 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the people Texas dot com. Taking on my Twitter feat 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: as well at your Harris Football. I also did a 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: mock draft, just you know, because we were you know, 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: we got I submitted. I submitted the Harris one hundred 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: the Thursday night, Thursday night before the winter storm hit. 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: So we have the winter storm hit, everybody loses power, 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: everything's just gone chaotic for that whole next week. And 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: then obviously there were so many great things that how 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: how Cal at Cal and Hannah and the McNair family 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: did for the city of Houston and for the fans, 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: and that was so featured the following week, and so 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: it took a little while to get it out there. 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: And then to meanwhile, I didn't mock draft two, so 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: I did a first round mock draft last year. I 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: did all seven rounds, and that was that was just chaotic, 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Like there's no way I might. I might try it again, 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: just because it's a kind of fun exercise, but I 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know, man, that wash that was so time consuming, 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: even beyond everything else, because you know, mock draft, if 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: you forget a name, if you just forget one person's name, 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: you can maybe recover from that. And I did that. 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I did. I forgot somebody early, and thankfully I was 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: able to go back and kind of slot him in 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: where he should have been. I was like, Okay, that, okay, 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: damage not bad. You forget a name in a seven 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: round mock draft and you've got to move you know, 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: thirty five different names around because now this guy's not 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna be there and this guy will be with this guy. 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: Uh forget that. So uh that's but maybe I don't 63 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: know I have photed seven round mock draft, but I 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you kind of words. Mark, Thank you very much. Yes, 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: the Harris one hundred is live at Houston Texas dot 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: com again on my Twitter feed at your Harris Football 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence is number one and we'll see him 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: twice a year. And that's sad, but it is what 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: it is. No problem, No, no, I'm not. I am 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: not going to declare bust. But like I bought it 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: out last week, there there is no sure thing this 72 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: draft or in any draft, as you know, and when 73 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: you have these recent developments of Mariota, Winston, GoF Wentz, 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: that's all you need to know. That's a combined top 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: two or top four in two consecutive drafts. And they're 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: not with their teams anymore. Didn't want them, didn't work out? 77 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Who knows? Okay, So I ask you this question. Okay, 78 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: we went through man, how many how many drafts have 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: we had since two thousand and two Texans had drafts? 80 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what this will be a twentieth draft, yeah, right, 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: twentieth draft. Okay, twentieth college player drafts? What one Texan 82 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: when drafted? Did you feel like because you say that, 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: you say that a lot, and you're right. There is 84 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: no slam numbing which Texan when he was drafted, whether 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: it turned out that way or not, did you look 86 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: at it and go, that's not a sure thing, but 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: it's as close as it can get. Honestly. Number one 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: is Andrey Johnson, third overall pick two thousand and three. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: When they drafted him, I thought, at the very least, 90 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: he's going to be a really good receiver in the NFL. Yeah, 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I turned out to be a Hall of Fame receiver, 92 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: but I thought he'll be really good at the very least. 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: The downside was not that far down right With Watson, 94 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: I gotta think here, of all the picks ever, Johnny, 95 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: with Watson, I felt I wasn't sure, you know, I 96 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: thought I was hopeful. I thought it was cool. I 97 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: knew it needed to be done because look, they're beating 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: their head against the wall at the quarterback position for years. 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: You have Mallett Hoyer. The next year of Oswalder, and 100 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: I applauded the organization and Rick Smith's move and everything, 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: because I thought, you know what, you just went all 102 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: in on Oswalder and somehow got out of it and 103 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: you're going all in again on Watson. Congratulations, because you 104 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: have to do that at the quarterback position. And they did. 105 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: And I didn't know it was going to work out 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: as well as it did, especially early on. My gosh, 107 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: those six and a half games and seventeen. But I 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: gotta say Andre Johnson was the one I thought the 109 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: most highly of when he was drafted. Um not to 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, rule out the other guys. I had my 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: doubts about Mario. Yeah, he turned out to be a 112 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: really good player. Not a Hall of Fame player, but 113 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: a really good player. And I don't want to go 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to the mall. I thought Cushing was gonna be pretty good, 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: pretty good, and he turned out to be great early. Yeah, 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: that would be mine Cushing. When Cushing was drafted, I 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: remember thinking he won't bust. He can do so much 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: on a football field. I don't think he is going 119 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: to be a bust at all. I think he is 120 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: going to be a really good player. I think the 121 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: lowest that his his floor was to just be a starter. 122 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: That was it. And I think had Cushed down had 123 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: those injuries in back to back years, I think we 124 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: would have seen a different Cush throughout, you know, throughout 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, But to me, when he was drafted, 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, yeah, that's that's solid. That is it's 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: a strong pick. That is that's the one where I 128 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: feel like not maybe a slam dug pro bowler, because 129 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you, like, there is no such thing. You'd 130 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: like to think there is, And I probably say it 131 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: on draft night. Oh, I ask guys, a slam dunk starter, 132 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: this guy is this, but it really a lot of 133 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: times doesn't turn out quite that way. But when Gushing 134 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: was drafted, I felt like, yes, that guy's as close 135 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: as it gets to a slam dunk gonna be a 136 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: great player. I mean, I love this conversation because when 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: I think about J. J. Watt, right and they talk 138 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: about he was boom draft knight, which is urban legend. 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: There was a smattering, but it wasn't really a heavy boot. 140 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't like the Mario Williams pick, which had less to 141 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: do with Mario than it had to do with who 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: they weren't picking in the two thousand and six draft. 143 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: But when Watt was picked, my expectations were, all right, 144 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I read about this guy, you know, I've heard about 145 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: him he's high draft choice candidate, and I thought, at 146 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: the very least they got a super solid defensive lineman. 147 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: In my wildest dreams, I had no idea it was 148 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: going to turn out the way it did with three 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year awards and everything like that. 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be more like a six 151 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: sack of year kind of guy, a real solid D line. 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: And remember the thought there was, you know, for people 153 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: like me, did they really need this guy? Don't they 154 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: need this like speed demon outside pass rusher, somebody to 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. Well, they got somebody to get 156 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. He was just built a little differently 157 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: than some of the other guys and he was fominal. 158 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: So that one worked out really well. How about Kareem 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: John because in twenty ten when they drafted Kareem mccordy 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: was there Kyle Wilson, there was a lot of talk 161 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: like it was gonna be one of those two guys. 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: H and how how do you not draft Kyle Wilson? 163 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: There was who's the third guy? Was there another guy? 164 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember? There was Dev mccordy, right, No, there 165 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: was three. It was Kareem Wilson. Mccordy. Those are the three. 166 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: So Kareem was kind of the upset pick here to way. Yeah, 167 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: and the rookie year didn't go as well as you 168 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: would want Ryan two thousand and ten. We all remembered, 169 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Kareem was not having a great debut season, 170 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: but the following year he started to come around really 171 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: big and he had a real nice career here. So 172 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: you just never know how it's gonna work out. And 173 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I think the Kareem pick is another good lesson where well, 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: wait a minute, why did you pick him? Why don't 175 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: you pick these other guys. Now mccordy would have been 176 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: a good pick because he moved to safety, he's still 177 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: playing great, Kareem still playing two for that matter. But 178 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: Kareem was a really good pick. It turned out to 179 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: be a very solid pick. Yeah, I think that's the 180 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I remember when he was drafted. We're doing draft the 181 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Draft show that night, and I remember Lance, everybody lands 182 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: their line. We kind of looked at each other like 183 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: is that the right guy? And you know, two years prior, 184 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I was not very happy with the pick, and it 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: turned out that was maybe the best pick that Rick 186 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Smith maybe made outside of the Shawn at twenty seventeen, 187 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: that with Dwayne Brown in two thousand and eight. So 188 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: I made sure when the Texas came up, like all right, 189 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: just keep your cool whatever. And I just remember hearing 190 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Kreem's name going okay, yeah, you know, wasn't totally excited 191 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: about it, but I remember thinking in my mind, all right, 192 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how this goes at corner. And then he 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: got in the league. And the thing about it is 194 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots sought right away. The Patriots sought with mccordy 195 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: right away. They're like, hey, yeah, even had a good 196 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: year corner. And then they went you're going to safety, 197 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: And within a year or two he went to safety. 198 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: Kareem should have been at safety by twenty fifteen or 199 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, but the Texas can never just get him 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: over there and let him be there. And now you're 201 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: look at him with the Broncos, and he said, two 202 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: pretty solid years the Broncos playing safety, and he had 203 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: a group he would have had a good year with 204 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: us in nineteen eighteen, eighteen, eighteen, yeah, eighteen playing safety, 205 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and I think at that point you get a good 206 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: look at what he can do. But he kept having 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: to go to corner and kept having to go out 208 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: there and maybe helped him in free agency that the 209 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Broncos paid him maybe some corner money, I guess. But 210 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: then he ended up moving to safety immediately. He's a 211 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: darn good safety's instincts everything. The Patriots just sold McCarty sooner, 212 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: and that fit for Devin mccordy. But you're right, Kareem 213 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: was one where I was like, and then of course 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: after the first year, you're like, oh boy, this is 215 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: not going well. And I think in large part and 216 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: people ask me this all the time about players, prospects, 217 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: what about this guy going here, what about this guy 218 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: going there? All that kind of stuff. It matters not 219 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: only where that guy goes, but who's there when he 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: gets there. Because the best thing that ever happened for 221 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson in Houston. Yes, Wade Phillips was important and 222 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: others as well, Vans, Joseph, etc. Jonathan Joseph was absolutely 223 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: massive for Kareem Jackson to have that the OG, to 224 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: have to be able to just bounce ideas off of 225 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and to help him along the way. So no coincidence 226 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: when Jonathan Joseph came here, that's when Kareem Jackson went 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, to a higher level of this play and 228 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: just got better and better year after year after year. 229 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: There's no there's really to me, no secret that job. 230 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Joseph meant that much. And that just goes to show. Look, 231 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence can do everything right at Clemson, can look 232 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: the part, but he might get to Jacksonville and go, man, 233 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: this is not the kind of locker room guys don't 234 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: support me. I don't I don't know that to be true. 235 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's what it could be. And I 236 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of guys kind of can struggle in 237 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: those environments when they don't have quite the support that 238 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: they had like they had at Clemson, like they had 239 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: at other places. So I think where a guy goes 240 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: and who's there to aid and support and you just 241 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: hear the horror stories over the years, like Alex Smith. 242 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: We talked about Alex Smith before Alex Smith went out 243 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: to San Francisco and he was just kind of on 244 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: an island, like nobody would talk to him, and got 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: in a locker room. You know, guys are kind of 246 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: all about themselves, you know. Then he had four or 247 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: five different offensive coordinators and it was just a mess, 248 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: and then it was hardball. Finally got there and settled 249 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: things down, and then Alex Smith became, you know, a 250 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: viable starting quarterback in the NFL. Let to mention their 251 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl quarterback. So a lot of that and all 252 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: that matter. But I just think about the slam dunk aspect, 253 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: and you know, talking about Trevor Lawrence, he's just you know, 254 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: it's you're right, he's not a slam dunk, but he's 255 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: pretty darn close. Now a guy that will not be 256 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: a Jaguar but will be a Texan. We found out 257 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Mark just after our show on Friday. Is Justin Britt 258 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: played center for the Seahawks. He's basically he's played all 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: over the offensive line in his career at Missouri, he 260 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: was a tackle, He's played some guards, and he moved 261 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: into the center. He injured his ACL I think in 262 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: November of nineteen or October of nineteen, so he's been 263 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: out since. So it's been a while. But Mark, it's 264 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: a one year deal. I think it caps out at 265 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: five million dollars. Aside from the business of it, I 266 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: don't I don't I like it. I don't have an 267 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: issue with it. Now do we know if he can 268 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: play coming off the ACL We don't know. We don't. 269 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: We don't have any idea none whatsoever. I could tell 270 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: you before he played, I thought he was a really 271 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: solid terior offensive lineman. No questions asked after, we don't know. 272 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: But taking a risk at one year, three and a 273 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: half million dollars up to five Mark, I'm not upset 274 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: with that one at all. I think that's actually a 275 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: nice way to start kind of the free agent player 276 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: acquisition team building process. Your thoughts, well, you think about 277 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: who's played center for this team in the last ten years, 278 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: right you had Chris Meyers, a pro bowler, had Ben 279 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Jones play. He's still starting on a pretty good line 280 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. You know you did dabble with Greg Manz 281 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: when Nick Martin was hurt right early on in Nick's career, 282 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Nick's first year, and you know, now you're gonna bring 283 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: in another era. Whatever that era is, is it britt Is, 284 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: it's somebody else. You do have other players, like you said, 285 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: under contract right now as we as we do this show, 286 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: you know you have Zach Fulton, who has some center capability. 287 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: You have Max Sharpe who has some center capability. Potentially 288 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: you might have another g that you draft. You might 289 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: have your next Greg Matz who actually could play center, 290 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: can play interior, can be that sixth man type of player. 291 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps I'm not promising anything here, so there are a 292 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of different directions they can still go. But you 293 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: have to have that veteran capability on your line. So 294 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: I think that's good. And as far as when you 295 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: have an old lineman, has it got an ACL or 296 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: something that's an old lineman, put some tape on it. 297 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Come on, you know you don't have to slalom around. 298 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: You know you're not making cuts. I make it sound easy, right, sure, 299 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: but god, these guys are going to move around much. 300 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Just knock people over. You're fine. Put some dirt on it. Good, 301 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do. One thing when I went 302 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: back and I read, you know, read up on Justin Britt, 303 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: and I do this for my draft prospects for interior lineman. 304 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: If there's one thing that I find more than anything else, 305 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: it makes me that much more excited, and that is wrestling. 306 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: If I can find an interior offensive lineman that has 307 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: wrestling in his background, or a defensive linement wrestling in 308 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: his background. There are two of them in this draft 309 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: that I know for a fact. One is Creed Humphrey 310 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma Center. The other is OsO Diggi Zua Defensive 311 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Linement from UCLA. And when you watch him, it's like 312 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: you can see the wrestling. And that's what Justin Britt watch. 313 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Justin Britt was a heck of a high school wrestler, 314 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: so that can come through in a guy's play. So 315 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: hopefully there's still something left in the tank. He comes 316 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: here after being with a winner up in Seattle and 317 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: comes to Houston. Definitely, definitely not mad at that what 318 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: so ever. All Right, Mark, Last Friday, we did a 319 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: little either or. I had a little bit left and 320 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to ask you, and a 321 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: few new ones. So we'll do a little either or 322 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: next right here on Texans All Access. Yes, yes, waiting 323 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: back to a Monday at issue to Texas All Access 324 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. Mobile version continues in 325 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: the March. But that's quite all right, John Harris here 326 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: a voice to the Texans. Mark Vanimer There, Mark Friday 327 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: was a fun show. We did a lot of either 328 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: ors and I had some I had some leftovers I'm 329 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna decided to add a few more to it, So 330 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: let's do it a little bit more either or, and 331 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: it kind of encompases a lot of different things. In fact, 332 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: it comes as your opinion. It's all your opinion, but 333 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: there are a couple of that are just personal preference. 334 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: You can't be right or actually you can't be right 335 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: around either way. So here we go. Number one, You've 336 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: got to win one game, super Bowl championship game, preseason game, 337 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: regular season game. It doesn't matter the importance, but you 338 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: have to win it. Would you rather have either Fitzy 339 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: at age thirty eight or Cam at age thirty two. Fitzy, 340 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the ability to throw the ball is so 341 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: good still, it really is. I know the interception is coming, 342 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: but I feel that way about Cam Newton too. The 343 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: interception is coming. I just feel like with Fitzy, I 344 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: got a better chance to make plays early. Now not 345 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: he can make plays with his legs, but it's not 346 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: the same as Cam Newton. I mean Cam Newton. They 347 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: reran the Patriots Seattle game from this past season on 348 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: NFL Network, and remember near the goal line late. I 349 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: didn't get to this part. So I'm gonna remember it 350 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: incorrectly perhaps, but they had a goal to go when 351 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: they just ran Cam into the line maybe a couple 352 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: of times, thinking all right, he's a big dude. Let 353 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: them just bowl people over with the old line and 354 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: let's go for it. They didn't make it. They didn't 355 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: make it. But you can do that kind of stuff 356 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: with Cam and be effective. Still, it's almost like they 357 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: were just using them up, like we're just gonna use 358 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: you up this year whenever you got left, and then 359 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: see you later. We'll go to the next guy. How 360 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: about the rumors for them trying to I don't even 361 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: know if they're rumors as much as it's just media 362 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: stuff and we've seen a lot of that lately around here. 363 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: But Garoppolo back to New England, that kind of talk, 364 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: that's interesting. But yeah, I'll go with Fitzy, Johnny. I 365 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: like Fitzy. You know this, And whichever team gets Fitzy, 366 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: they get great interviews, fun moments in the locker room, 367 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: great zoom calls. If it's still a COVID world, so 368 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: go Fitze and Cam too. You know, with Cam, you 369 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: get the outfits, you get some interesting weigh ins on 370 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: social media from other people on what he is wearing. 371 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm totally respectful of the wardrobe. 372 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: Go for it. Be yourself, be your best self. I 373 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: always loved hop dressing up or whatever Watson's wearing. Just 374 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: do it. It's fun, it's entertainment. We're not look when 375 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: my doctor comes to operate on me. Even then, if 376 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: you want to dress up like super Fly, go for it. 377 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't care. As long as you're doing your job 378 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: on the back end, it don't matter. So that what 379 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: you just said, maybe think of one. Ran Fitzpatrick has 380 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: played for every team in the AFC East minus one. 381 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo once played for the New England Patriots. Patriots 382 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty twenty one. Either Fitzy and drafting a 383 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: rookie or Jimmy g returning to Boston. That's a great question. 384 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: I guess the question is what would they do? And 385 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: by the way, you were talking about whether I'm right 386 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: or wrong, seventy five percent of the time, I am 387 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: right all the time. Just just remember that. So as 388 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: far as New England's quarterback situation goes, Garoppolo knows the system. 389 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: They liked him. I can't believe they traded him for 390 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: a two, but they did, which is down the road 391 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: of Cambridge. So they don't care. They don't care. Smart guy. Yeah, 392 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: smart guys, I secretly think, and I'm saying it out loud. 393 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I secretly think that I'm saying out loud the NFL 394 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: coaches do not like smart guys. That's just my thought. 395 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: They don't like being questioned, right, No, so they don't 396 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: like smart guys. But he's Fitzy, I think, is a 397 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: guy that he's got kind of this he's got kind 398 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: of this good old boy sort of fuel to him. 399 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: And yet he scored a fifty on his wonderlige way 400 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: back in the day. So Fitzy and Jimmy g in 401 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: New England. Well, remember what he told me about the system, 402 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: the Bill O'Brien system, which is the Patriot system. Right, 403 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: it's the hardest system he's ever had to love. Right, 404 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: And he's been a few places since, but I would 405 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: imagine that's still the case. However, he did make a 406 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: lot of plays here, and he had a record amount 407 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: of touchdown passes in one game six against the Tennessee 408 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: Titans in his comeback game after they put him back 409 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: into the lineup. When Ryan Malleck got hurt. I think 410 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: it's intriguing Fitzy in New England. Here's the deal. You 411 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: don't have to acquire him at a trade and he 412 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: doesn't have a huge contract. Right you're at the end 413 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: of the career with Fitzy, you can still bring the 414 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: gas and you're gonna draft a quarterback and develop him. 415 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: With Garoppolo, you're saying you're gonna be our starter for 416 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: ten years. We hope if you don't get hurt, which 417 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: you do often. And I like Jimmy G. I really do. 418 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: But they might view it as too expensive in terms 419 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: of draft capital and actual capital whatever they have to 420 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: invest to get Jimmy G back in New England, so 421 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: they'll go with Fitzy, and I'll go with Fitzy in 422 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: New England too. I really don't want to see him, 423 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: but he's a great dude. As we said, Okay, I'm 424 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: sticking with the quarterback theme now. Drew and I have 425 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: been doing on in the lab. We have been doing 426 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: every Wednesday. We have been drafting eight players. They're thirty 427 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: two teams. We divide up in four episodes. We have 428 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: one player from each franchise and we got to try 429 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: and fill out a team. So you can't just draft, 430 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, one all quarterbacks, can just draft all defensive ends. 431 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: And so last week was the first time that either 432 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: one of us took a quarterback and it was me 433 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: and really the decision that I had came down to 434 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: two guys. So I'll ask you, and I could have 435 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: gone either way. You have to win one game. Do 436 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: you take either Peyton Manning or John Elway each in 437 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: their prime? If I have to win one game, I'm 438 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: taking Elway in his prime. Elway can make plays in 439 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: a variety of ways. I like Manning a lot, I 440 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: really do, and he was a terror to us, But 441 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I think that you gotta go with Elway. You know 442 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Vander Kidd, who I bring up a lot. I know, 443 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: but he's an interesting market research focus group for me 444 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: because he's fifteen. He's learned about the league history, NFL Network, Madden, 445 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: He's learned a ton. And he said, what was Elway 446 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: like when he went to the three Super Bowls and lost? 447 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: When he went to the two Super Bowls later and 448 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: one with Gary Kubiak as as offensive coordinator, they were 449 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: a different kind of team most than when they were 450 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: coached by Dan Reeves and he had the three Amigos 451 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: and all of that. He was making plays left and right, 452 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: any which way he could. He could throw at seventy 453 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: yards on the run. I mean, the guy is just phenomenal. 454 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: Was just phenomenal, and I really think that he's a 455 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: tremendous player. One of the best quarterbacks ever, no doubt, 456 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: And maybe he doesn't get discussed enough when you're having 457 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: that greatest quarterback ever conversation. He's not the greatest quarterback ever, 458 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: but he's right up there. And I'm going to take 459 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: him over Manning for one game if I have to 460 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: go through a season, and I can go through camp 461 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: and training and all that, I think that or multiple 462 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: seasons or whatever. I think Peyton Manning is probably the guy, 463 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: but because he coaches the team and he just affects 464 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: everybody around him in such a positive way. But I'll 465 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: go with Elway for the one game. I ended up 466 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: going with Peyton Manning because I went with Von Miller. 467 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: I liked my Von Miller Peyton Manning duo better than 468 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: John Elway and a cult defender. So that's what I 469 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: went with. And I felt dirty doing it because I 470 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: just I just was never I'll tell you this. I 471 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: was never a big Payton. This happened for one other 472 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: athlete too. I was not really a big Peyton guy 473 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: at all while he was playing at all. But then 474 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: when he retired and I look back his career and 475 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: I see him now, and I go back and watch, 476 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I just have such a higher 477 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: appreciation for him. And the other player was Larry Bird. 478 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Same way. Yeah, hated Larry Bird. Hate hated Larry in sports, 479 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: hate way, right, But then when I went back and 480 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: looked at his career and I was like, man, he 481 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: played the game like I would have wanted to play. 482 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: And so that's why I was like, Okay, Larry Bird's 483 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: my guy, and Payne's kind of become that that more 484 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: so now. But because he beat us so many times, 485 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I still have that in my cross stuck in my craws. 486 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: All Right, you get one of these two defensive players 487 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: for ten years in their prime, either Brian Cushing or 488 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: Demko Ryan's and their prime all the way through ten 489 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: years in their prime. I think I'm going with Cushing 490 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: because Cushing, I think in his prime that rookie year, 491 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: he was so explosively good. He could intercept the ball, 492 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: he could get a sack, he could get the ball out. 493 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Demiko did all those things too, okay, But 494 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: I just think Demiko is that that leader type. You know, 495 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember the amount of spectacular plays from Demiko 496 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: as I do from Cushing, just off the top of 497 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: my head, and I loved them. You know, I love 498 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans. You know, I thought Demiko Ryan's beloved Texan 499 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: was one of when he was here, he was one 500 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: of my favorite players and he still is really one 501 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: of my favorite players ever, honestly, and I don't think 502 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: he gets talked about enough when we talk about, you know, 503 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: guys who played here, who are you know, people's favorite 504 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: players are the best players in the history of the 505 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: franchise and all that. He was phenomenal here. He was great, 506 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: like we said, team leader, multi Pro Bowl or all 507 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: of that. But I don't know, Cushing at his best was, 508 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: like I said, explosive and really could you know, you 509 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: say RecA Gain as usually a pass rusher, a guy 510 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: who plays on the line of scrimmage more, but you know, 511 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: as a linebacker, he was a pretty good game wrecker. 512 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: The other guy that I would have said that I 513 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: felt when that guy was drafted, like, okay, that's a 514 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: that's a slam dunk. That there's no way that guy 515 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: won't be good. Was the micro, even though it was 516 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: in the second round. I just felt like, this guy 517 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be everything that you want in a football player. 518 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: And then some okay, well he was the first pick 519 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: in the second round, and I'll never forget because everyone 520 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: was excited about that pick and it took some of 521 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: the sting off the way people felt about the first 522 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, which was Mario. That's very true. Okay, 523 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: you get to win one championship. Would you like to 524 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: win the Masters? Or would you like to cut the 525 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: nets down and win a Final four championship? Masters? It's 526 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: me am, I coaching the basketball. You're the most important 527 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: person on that basketball team, whether you play or you coach. 528 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: I think the Masters. You know what, you get to 529 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: go back on the ladder cutting one string off. You're 530 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: the one at the end holding the net because you're 531 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: that guy. It's tremendous. Both are obviously tremendous, But I'm 532 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: saying the Masters because there's just something. It's an individual thing. 533 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: But let's just put that aside. You get to go 534 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: back every year and have the dinner, and you get 535 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: to play every year, no matter how much you suck later. 536 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there are guys who've won the Masters who 537 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: are horrible. Right. Where are these guys? They're in the 538 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Federal Witness Protection program of whatever country they belong to, 539 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: and they get to come back to the Masters and 540 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: play as long as they can stand up right. Basically, 541 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: after a while, the Augusta National people are gonna say, 542 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I think. I think you're done now, 543 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: h ceremonial. You can do the ceremonial tea shot, but 544 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: you could still play for a long time. I think 545 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: the Masters just something about it, Johnny, I love it. Okay. 546 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: So if you could be in one sports fraternity, would 547 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: you rather be in the Master's winners fraternity or the 548 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: one that andres in the Heisman Trophy fraternity? I think 549 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy fraternity is so cool. I think it's cooler. 550 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: I'd rather be with those guys, honestly. I just you know, 551 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: I'll say this over and over. Andre won the most. 552 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: I think it's the most prestigious individual honor in a 553 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: team sport. Right, you know, you always remember who they are, 554 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, MVP of a World Series or a season 555 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: or whatever in baseball, football, that pick your sport. Yeah, 556 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: they're great, and it means you're great if you've won one. 557 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But there's something about the 558 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Heisman that separates itself, and it's the most recognizable trophy 559 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: in sports, certainly individual trophy. I mean you can say, well, 560 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Lombardi Trophy is the most recognizable trope. 561 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the World Series trophy is very recognizable. 562 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: I think the Stanley Cup is actually more identifiable than 563 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: either of those as far as the actual piece goes. 564 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: But individual trophy in professional or team sports, that's it. 565 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: It's not professional in team sports, that's it. It's the Heisman, 566 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: no doubt, yep. I agree with you, Mark, appreciate the time. 567 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: A friend, Thank you, Thank you, Johnny. Coming up next 568 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: is our good friend Deep City, and she's got a 569 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: special interview with one of our good friends there with 570 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, who is so instrumental in community relations. 571 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Everybody in the building in some way, shape or form, 572 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: works with our good friend Candice Mayberry, players, coaches, employees, 573 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: everybody and people outside the building know all about her 574 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: as well. You get to learn next Candas Mayberry, Deep 575 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: City right here in Texans All Axis. It's All Axis. 576 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: We got one final segment of this Monday edition of 577 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm 578 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, and I'm gonna pitch the ball 579 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: out to my good friend Deep City and she's gonna 580 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: take it over the goal line tonight with one of 581 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: our good friends from the office who is instrumental in 582 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: so many things that happen in the community, and that 583 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: is our good friend Candice Maybury. Here's Deep March's Women's month, 584 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: It's International Women's Day, and I really wanted to sit 585 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: down with you. You and I have worked on some 586 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: really cool initiatives together. But first things first, for people 587 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: that don't know what you might do, can you give 588 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: a brief description of what your job is? Absolutely? Well, 589 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I'm super super excited to 590 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: be here. So again, Cannis Maybury, Senior Community Relations manager 591 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. So I say my job is 592 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of this, a little bit of that, 593 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: whole bunch of everything. I am responsible for a lot 594 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: of our community relations initiatives. I work with a team 595 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: of four other people in our department. Some of the 596 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: pieces of the pie that belong to me are our 597 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: cancer awareness initiatives, so a lot of our breast cancer 598 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: awareness things, our partnership with United Way. Let's see what 599 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: else is there. There's some other things that I do, 600 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: some of our foundation events. I kind of partner with 601 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: our foundation team on those things. And then the probably 602 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: the biggest chunk of my role is Legends Coordinator for 603 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: all of our Houston Texans Legends, which is our former players. 604 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: Anybody who was a form who was played for the 605 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Texans from two thousand and two to anytime recently who 606 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: recently retired. I serve as their contact to the organization 607 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: and to the league for anything they may be looking for, 608 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: any resources they may need. All Right, So I used 609 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: to a podcast a few years ago called I Want 610 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: Your Job, And I feel like a lot of people 611 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: may hear this and want your job. Okay, is this 612 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: how you started with the Texans? Did you start at 613 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: this position, did it sort of morph into this over 614 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: the years, and is this kind of what you thought 615 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: that you might be doing when you joined the Texans. 616 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: So that's a very loaded question that I'm happy to 617 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: explain it is not. I actually started off as an 618 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: administrative assistant to the Community of Outment department in two 619 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I was hired by a lady who 620 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: had just recently gotten a job here and she and 621 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: I had met a couple of times. She thought I 622 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: was really organized, and she wanted me to come in 623 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: and be the community the assistant to the department. Great, 624 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: no problem. So she didn't last very long here. I'm 625 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: only for personal reasons. And so from there she had 626 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: hired the staff of like there was total of three 627 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: of us. She hired us, and we just were kind 628 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: of here trying to figure this thing out. And from 629 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: there we moved around from a couple of different departments. 630 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: But in the movement and the moving and the transition, 631 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: I became a coordinator marketing and community development coordinator, and 632 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: then I assumed some more responsibilities. Then my position moved 633 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: into just the community development department, and from there I've 634 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: just kind of been growing and striving and taking all 635 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: more responsibilities and adding more to my piece of the 636 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: pie since then. So was this how it started? No? 637 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely not what I expected. Absolutely not. I jokingly tell people, 638 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be here for about five years. 639 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, this thing for five years? See what it's like. 640 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't a huge sports fan. I've actually learned sports 641 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: since i've been in here. That probably shouldn't say they're 642 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: on a podcast, but I've actually learned more about sports 643 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: since i've been here. But I was like, oh, I'll 644 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: be here five years. You know. Now I'm on like 645 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: five years times three, fourteen, going into my fourteen seats 646 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: and I'm still here, so still loving it. So no, 647 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: it was not how I thought it would start, but 648 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm definitely glad. It's weird day. Yeah, it's one of 649 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: those how it started versus how it's going me exactly, 650 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: I feel like exactly what it is you talk about 651 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: community development. You may not have been passionate about sports, 652 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like you were so passionate about community 653 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: development in your contacts. I know recently we had the 654 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: winter storm freeze and you helped organize five food trucks 655 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: in the third ward. You've got a lot of contacts, 656 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: and that seems to be a really big passion of yours, 657 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: is giving back to the community. So give us a 658 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit of background. You grew up in Houston. Correct, 659 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: You're doing really well connected? Well, thank you. I appreciate that. 660 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: I often tell people they didn't hire me because I 661 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: know football. They hired me because I know community. I 662 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: am a native Houstonian, been here all my life. My 663 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: parents our native Houstonians. We just I'm one of three kids, 664 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: went to high school here, went to college a Preview 665 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: dam University, YEA for PD and just have done a 666 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: few different things prior to me getting with the Texans. 667 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: I've worked in politics. I worked on a couple of 668 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: city council races. I worked in a congressional campaign, I 669 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: worked for a Chamber of Commerce. I've done a little 670 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: bit of this, little bit of that, whole bunch of 671 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. But it kind of boils down 672 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: to something my mother and I always talk about this exposure. 673 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: My parents exposed us to a lot of different things. 674 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: I've been a member of the Rodeo for sixteen years 675 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: on various committees, so some of my connections come from there. 676 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: Some of my connections come from my political campaigns and 677 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: just being in the community. A lot of the things 678 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: that I've done have just put me, you know, on 679 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: the front lines of working with people and communities and 680 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: community leaders. So I've just kind of, you know, grabbed 681 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: a contact here, grab the contact here, grab the contact here, 682 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: and it's brought me to where I am today. Kind 683 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: of going back to the story I mentioned about the 684 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: lady who initially hired me, She and I, I think 685 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: met a couple of times, only a couple of times, 686 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: and from there she decided to actually come work for her. 687 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of where it just comes from, 688 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: as you know, annoying people to hear, annoying people being here, 689 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: bring them all together, and pulling them up to the 690 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: next place that you you go to. Well, you and 691 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: I worked on a really cool initiative. You were actually 692 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: leading this initiative and you had this vision for it, 693 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: the Black History Month Initiative for the Houston Texans. It 694 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: was it was it was something that was geared towards 695 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: people within the organization, the employees, to sort of teach 696 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: them about black history in Houston specifically, because I think 697 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people may know some things about black history, 698 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: they may know about history in Houston, they may not 699 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: know about black history in Houston. And so you had 700 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: a committee of people, you had this vision. You had 701 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: these really amazing speakers and guests that you lined up. 702 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: I was helping in the sense that I was moderating 703 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: these sessions, and I really had a crash course on 704 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: Black History in Houston, because I felt like I started 705 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: at beginner level, and by the end of it, I 706 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: felt like I learned so much just in the initial research, 707 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: in the moderate and the sessions that we moderated. I 708 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people got stuff out of it. 709 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna have links to it up on Houston Texans 710 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: dot com. But talk a little bit about that why 711 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: that was so important for you when you got the 712 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: vision for that, Because I know Black History Month every 713 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: single year we celebrate it, but this was really different 714 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: in the way that we exposed the employees and ourselves 715 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: to what Black History in Houston really means. Absolutely so 716 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: every year I've been tasked with figuring out how we're 717 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: going to as an organization, commemorate, celebrate, acknowledge Black History Month, 718 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: and it's typically something that we've done with one of 719 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: our community partners, whether it's taking kids from the YMCA 720 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: to see a play at the Ensemble Theater, one of 721 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: the only African American theaters in the country or one 722 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: of you. When the Super Bowl was here, there was 723 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: a traveling exhibit of Hall of Famers from HBCUs. So 724 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: we took some football players from local football teams to 725 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: see that exhibit with some of the Hall of Famers 726 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: in the area and our legends. So every year we've 727 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: done something different. Last year we went to go see 728 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: a play about the Green Book, and then we took 729 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: the kids to a place that had been featured in 730 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: the Green Book. If you don't know what the Green 731 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: Book is, I tell you to definitely google it. Look 732 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: it up. You'll be very, very surprised and enlightened about 733 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: what exactly it was. But we took kids to see 734 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: a play about it, and then we took them to 735 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: a location that was actually featured in the Green Book 736 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: and kind of gave them that authentic Green Book experience. 737 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: And so from there was the thought was, Okay, this 738 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: is cool. We should do more like this, and how 739 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: can we get the staff involved a little bit more, 740 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: And so, to be perfectly honest, steepee, after everything that 741 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: happened last year, with all the social injustice that happened 742 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: in the year of twenty twenty, and then the pandemic, 743 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: and just twenty twenty gave us everything. It seems like 744 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: last year really absolutely My thought was how do we 745 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: take this external thing that we do and bringing in internally. 746 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: And the more I started thinking about it, I grew 747 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: up in Houston in Third Ward, which is predominantly African American, 748 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: and I started thinking, you know, people ask me all 749 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: the time, what's the third Ward, what's the fourth Ward? 750 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: What are the Ward's about? And I said, well, you know, 751 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: maybe that's a good opportunity. This is a good opportunity 752 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: to do some Black history here locally. A lot of people, politicians, educators, musicians, 753 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: celebrities have come from the Houston area, but we don't 754 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: often tell those stories. So I thought this would be 755 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for us to kind of have black 756 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: history in Houston one oh one and share it with 757 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: our with our staff. And I'll be honest with you, 758 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: I've been here all my life. I learned a lot. 759 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: I learned quite a bit during the process of us 760 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: planning these events. So I'm very thankful that everyone was 761 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: very receptive to it and that people enjoyed it and 762 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: learned a lot. I think the coolest part of all 763 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: of it was even after learning about it every single day. 764 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: At the end of the week, you guys had these 765 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: celebrate Black History boxes that were distributed and you know, 766 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: I wish I could take credit for it, but you 767 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: and and and this was the entire committee. You know, 768 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: everyone had their role in reaching out to black owned 769 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: businesses and putting things in the box from different black 770 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: owned businesses locally, because there's a lot of great businesses 771 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: out there. There's a lot of great products people just 772 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know about them. And then there was a list 773 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: of businesses that you can that you can go to 774 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: if you like the products in the box. One of 775 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: my favorite things was the multicultural crowns, a crowns of 776 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: different skin colors. I mean, such a small thing, yeah, 777 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: and I and I thought, and I gave it to 778 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: my youngest because he's he's still at that age where 779 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: colors and stuff. I thought, you know, growing up in school, 780 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: like there's so many of us that were like, um, 781 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't orange or yellow does not apply to me, 782 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: and brown doesn't apply to me. But it was as 783 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: beautiful and my son he put the crowns on his 784 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: skin and we picked which one match skin, and I 785 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: was I just thought it was such a It was 786 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: just such a nice box full of everything. So to me, 787 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: I think that was a great bow on all of it. 788 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Cecil Shorts because I 789 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: know that they sort of tricked you into doing this podcast. 790 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: Thought you were coming into the pot. You are doing 791 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: the podcast now, but um, we sort of did a 792 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: little trickery on miss Candice Maybury. We told her that 793 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: she was doing the podcast. But really you got a 794 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: very special message from Cecil Shorts, who was now a 795 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: Texans legend, helped to moderate the Black History Month initiative? 796 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: What was what was that about? Canvas? So I definitely 797 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: was tricked. These people are tricky guys. I was surprised 798 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: with the message from Cecil Shorts. The third Cecil Shorts 799 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: is one of our Texans legends. He was with our 800 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: team for a couple of years. He's been a legend 801 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: probably for three or four years, and he's absolutely amazing. 802 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: I mean, there are some guys Cecil is one of them. 803 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: I can call and say, hey, can you do this 804 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow at three o'clock and they're like, yeah, let me 805 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: figure it out. I'll definitely be able to do it. 806 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: I can make it happen, and Cecil, it's one of 807 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: those guys that he can definitely make it happen no 808 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: matter how late or how early I call. But his 809 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: message was super super sweet and super super surprising, and 810 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm a hard person to surprise, but it was just 811 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: really him expressing how appreciative and how grateful he is 812 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: for my role with the Legends community and how passionate 813 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: I am about the group and making sure they get 814 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: the things that they need and making sure they have 815 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: a connection with the organization. So it's very very hard, 816 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: felt very very shocked. It was not expecting it, but 817 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm just appreciative that, you know that message, Cecil was 818 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: able to record that a share is kind words with me, 819 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: So it was neat well. Cecil sort of speaks for 820 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: all of us in some sense when we say thanks 821 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: to our good friend Cannis Mayberry all that she has done. 822 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: But you know, if Cecil is reaching out that way 823 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: and what a sweetheart of a guy he is, that 824 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: is very very cool. And it also shows you the 825 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: impact that Canis Mayberry has for everybody that she comes 826 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: in contact with. And I'm telling you she keeps those 827 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: Legends in line. Man those guys have to answer to her, 828 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: and is really really cool when we have our homecoming 829 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: game and they show up. That's all because of what 830 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: Canis Mayberry does, amongst other things. And why not celebrate 831 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: her greatness with this organization on International Women's Day in 832 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: March Women's Month. And it's great to have dep along 833 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: who did a great job with our Black History celebrity 834 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: Black History Month as we did last week. She was 835 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: tremendous as a moderator doing all of that, So props 836 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: to her, Props to you for listening to the show. 837 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: Big thanks to Mark for stopping by, to Joanna for producing, 838 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: to all of you for listen. Thank you so much. 839 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. Anyboddy, Let's always go Texans. Let's 840 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: go Texans. It's good