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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith Steak is that woom woom and

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid rebel boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hilden Brandon, joining me as always over

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Speaker 2: there in Chicago Land, Dan Rubisteine, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great, Ty, I am, I'm really good. I finished

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Speaker 1: a bake of a new pie. Had a dough baby,

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Speaker 1: hour cold for mint. So it sat out in room

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Speaker 1: temperature and a bowl sat down room temperaturn a bowl

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Speaker 1: tye right as you know has to be, and made

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Speaker 1: four dough balls, went a little bit smaller. That was

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Speaker 1: the runt of the litter. And that's what I bake today.

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Speaker 1: Made a pepperoni pie for lunch, a smaller pie. Really

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Speaker 1: the experimentation continues as we enter a December to Remember.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you next if you saw the

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Speaker 2: updated calendar as we have now entered the month of December.

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Speaker 1: You know, the college football schedule isn't.

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Speaker 2: Quite what it was last December, or the December before it,

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Speaker 2: or really any December for the last one hundred years

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Speaker 2: or so. But correct, here we are. We've got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of news to get into. It will no doubt

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Speaker 2: be a December to remember.

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Speaker 1: Dan. Yeah, many more regular season games than we're used

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Speaker 1: to watching, reacting to previewing in the month of December.

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Speaker 1: And we have bowl games I think are going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Some have been canceled, like the pinstripe in the Sun.

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Speaker 1: But Tie, I'm getting ahead of myself because I believe

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Speaker 1: with all of these postponements, cancelations, questions about what does

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Speaker 1: think we enter into scorpion pose Saturday, and you are

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Speaker 1: the reason. And I say, explain this one scorpion pose

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Speaker 1: vishray Casana. Tie, come on, this is like you're speaking,

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Speaker 1: This is like you are speaking a foreign tongue. To me, Dan,

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Speaker 1: what the hell does any of that mean? Look Google,

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Speaker 1: as I say the scorpion pose, it's a yoga pose

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Speaker 1: Are you saying this right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a large Russian word here for this. Casana

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Speaker 1: I think it might be more Hindi because it's yoga,

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Speaker 1: but I might be wrong. Rish rish casana. Sure, scorpion

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Speaker 1: ourselves to talking ourselves into Ohio State only is playing

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State could technically get into the Big Twelve championship

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Speaker 1: sec ones. I think it's scorpion post Saturday because there's

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Speaker 1: Yoga could do you well. Tie it probably could.

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Speaker 2: You know, I tweaked my back putting together one of

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Speaker 1: We actually have lots of breaking news, Danielle. Yes, Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Derek Mason. Derek Mason fired from Vanderbilt. Off

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Speaker 1: to a winless start this year was his seventh year

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Speaker 1: then it could just be a normal carousel type season.

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Speaker 1: On the coaching front, some of the names that have

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Speaker 1: also it's in the SEC. And you know, if Vanderbilt

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Speaker 2: Speaking of coaches, Ryan Day will not be able to

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Speaker 2: due to coronavirus protocols. You might recall that he did

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Speaker 2: here in this age of COVID, We've got just a

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Speaker 2: the same vein right, Michigan pausing in person activities.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is Michigan State, and Michigan has Maryland. This weekend,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier the Sun boll and Pinstripe balls in

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Speaker 1: that sucks. Speaking of sucking, Michael Pennings junior out.

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Speaker 2: For the year to ACL right.

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Speaker 1: Indiana was in the wind column. Considering his performance against

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Speaker 2: And then we've got some opt outs as well. We've

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Speaker 2: Terrence Marshall, the lc ter receiver, Terris Terrorists excuse me, Terris, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: as Tevin Jenkins, the Oklahoma State offensive tackle. Those guys

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Speaker 1: Often I imagine the list will be even longer by

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Speaker 1: get it. I'm not jeopardizing anything further if my team

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. Al Gore is beard pretty good? Pretty good? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: We finally have a good amount of data on everybody

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Speaker 2: You know, if we're really going to commit and we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, we're framing this out in terms of

432
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Speaker 2: the point spread and Ohio State. Ohio State has been

433
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Speaker 2: pretty good generally, but I just feel like the potential

434
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Speaker 2: here for more points than I expect is what could

435
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Speaker 2: derail a twenty four point spread, more allowing more points

436
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Speaker 2: than I expect. Okay, so for that reason, I'm a

437
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: little bit more spook than usual. What's not lost to me, though,

438
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: is the fact that Michigan State maybe in a weird

439
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: letdown spot after knocking off Northwestern, Like, is that possible

440
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Speaker 2: to be let down going into a week with Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: No, No, there's no letdown effect because beating Northwestern, I

442
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Speaker 1: don't think is nearly as important as the possibility of

443
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Speaker 1: doing something against Ohio State with nothing to lose. Michigan

444
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: State is nothing to lose. How many points can Michigan

445
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Speaker 1: State score on Ohio State realistically? Seventeen?

446
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: Okay, how many points do you think Ohio State can

447
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Speaker 2: realistically score, like comfortably score.

448
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Speaker 1: Against Michigan State forty five. I think they can score

449
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Speaker 1: forty five. I think Michigan State probably has a top

450
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three defense in the country right now. I

451
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: mean granted, I mean you look at the offenses that

452
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Speaker 1: they've played. It's nothing crazy. It's you know, outside of

453
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Speaker 1: Indiana who beat them twenty four to nil. It's Northwestern's

454
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: bad offense, it's Iowa's at best average offense, Michigan's bad offense,

455
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Speaker 1: Rutgers bad offense. I like Michigan State here to at

456
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Speaker 1: least give themselves a short field, get a chunk play

457
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Speaker 1: against this somewhat disappointing Ohio State defense within the context

458
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Speaker 1: of what we've seen recently. I think Michigan State covers

459
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Speaker 1: this spread, and I think maybe this is the week

460
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Speaker 1: that if Michigan State is able to cover the spread,

461
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Speaker 1: you will think that there is something definitely different about

462
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Speaker 1: this year's Ohio State defense minus key pieces, especially upfront

463
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Speaker 1: and Jeff Halfley.

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Speaker 2: If that happens, Dan, that would be significant in my book,

465
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Speaker 2: because I'm looking at efficiency metrics here for the Michigan

466
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Speaker 2: State offense and it's real bad.

467
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Speaker 1: Oh they have a legitimately bad offense. Yeah, it's real bad.

468
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Speaker 2: So we'll have to keep an eye on just how

469
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Speaker 2: well they fare against this Ohio State defense. It'll be

470
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Speaker 2: an interesting test, if only for our purposes here, I'm

471
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Speaker 2: going to stick to my guns. I still think Ohio

472
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Speaker 2: State is one of the best four or five teams

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Speaker 2: in the country, and if so, going up against an

474
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Speaker 2: offense that is just this team, they've got to cover.

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Speaker 1: Can't they be both? Can't Can Ohio State be a

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Speaker 1: team that is a top five team in the country

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Speaker 1: and not what they were on defense? Legitimately?

478
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I trust in the offense more than I

479
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Speaker 2: trust in Michigan State's ability to either stop them or

480
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: score more than seventeen points to cover a spread.

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Speaker 1: What does Ohio State's roster look like after not being

482
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Speaker 1: able to play last week. It's a good question. How

483
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Speaker 1: many guys are they missing. I don't know. It's a

484
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: good question. Can't draw anything specific based on it, but

485
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Speaker 1: it's something I wonder.

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Speaker 2: If they play this game, I'm going to Ohio State

487
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Speaker 2: minus the number.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I disagree. Another home dog for Denny.

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Speaker 2: Some other games here that are of note. We've got

490
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Speaker 2: Texas minus ten at k State, Oklahoma State minus two

491
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Speaker 2: and a half on the road at TCU. That line

492
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: is screaming TCU. We've got Arkansas on the road at Missoo,

493
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Speaker 2: Nebraska a two point dog on the road at Purdue.

494
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Speaker 2: We've got Penn State minus eleven on the road at Rutgers,

495
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech by four touchdowns at home over Kansas, and

496
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Speaker 2: North Carolina playing host to Western Carolina. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: a line on that game. Any of those games jump

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Speaker 2: out to you, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Most of those games jump out to me, not the

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Speaker 1: Western Carolina North Carolina game. I like Kansas State as

501
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: a home dog. I might even make my home dog

502
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Speaker 1: of the week the Yukos home dog of the week. Uh,

503
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: let's be clear, this is not an endorsement of Will

504
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Howard and the passing game right now for Kansas State.

505
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Speaker 1: But what do we know about Texas right now? They're

506
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: out of the Big twelve title race. They just are.

507
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: They're in the midst of losing players. How many will

508
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: they lose? I don't know, but certainly things aren't can't

509
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: be amazing in that locker room. How many times have

510
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: we heard the word the word urban and the word

511
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Meyer associated with the aad coaching job which is not open.

512
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Speaker 2: Did you happen to see that? I forget the publication.

513
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's legit. Somebody was reporting

514
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: that Urban Meyer's wife is looking for real estate in Austin,

515
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: like the old John Gruden line. Remember that can't be true, Tie,

516
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: it can't be true. But I mean, maybe her search

517
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: history had a little bit of Zillow in it. Who

518
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: hasn't done a little bit as well, a little late

519
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: night zillowing, little late night zilloing. Who knows for me

520
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: to say, I haven't ye, Urban's off doing the show

521
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: in La wherever they do it, and doing a little

522
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: late night Zilley. I don't know.

523
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Think about if you were in a letdown spot after

524
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: blowing that game against Iowa State. Now starting safety is

525
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman leave, and you're saying we're out of it.

526
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: This doesn't feel right. We don't know what's going on

527
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: with our coaching staff. Who would be the player you

528
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: would least like to tackle. It might just be duce Von.

529
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: It might just be Douce Fawn. If defense is an

530
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: effort thing and it requires extra effort to keep track of,

531
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: track down and bring down Douce Fawn, is this an

532
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: effort Texas team? You like pointing out that Tom Herman

533
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: gets his teams up for big games. Seems like they

534
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: were up and had a really good shot against Iowa

535
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: State last week to get up for one of Manhattan

536
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Kansas House of Horrors for the Longhorn program, I think

537
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: if Will Howard can limit the mistakes, complete a couple

538
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: baths on third downs, get creative ways to get Duzvon

539
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: the ball if he's playing, I never know, You never

540
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: know about anybody, but if he is, they're their home dog.

541
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: To me, maybe Texas sneaks away with a win, but

542
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm going Kansas State, who have who have despite losing

543
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback many eons ago, now they're they're showing

544
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: fight weekend week out. Granted not against Ia State. Okay,

545
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: that's my pick. Kansas State boom done home dog again

546
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: three for three home dogs. Yeah, I like k State

547
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: here plus the number. It is their last game of

548
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: the year, yeah, or not last game of the year.

549
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: So I think already it's been a pretty successful campaign

550
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: for Chris Climbing. In year two, they knocked off Oklahoma.

551
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: I would say understandable campaign given losing Skyler Thompson, like

552
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: they did. Understandable campaign. It was already four in a row.

553
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: Well hold on, yeah, it was going to be a

554
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: step back year. We talked about that in the preview.

555
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: But true, to knock off Oklahoma, to almost knock off

556
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, I just you know, they should have won

557
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: the Baylor game yep, on the road yep. So now

558
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: this spot here I think is meaningful because they can

559
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: get back to five hundred, and to your point, I'm

560
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: just not sure I know what Texas is going to

561
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: play for at this point. I think the apathy element

562
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: of things is playing an outsized impact this year, whether

563
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: it's players opting out or just teams trying to go

564
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: out there and get jazz up to play. So I

565
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: think I'm with you. I'm going to go Case State

566
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: plus the number at home another home dog opportunity. Maybe

567
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: home Dog Saturday is really what we should be calling it.

568
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: What's got to be someone with an ass tie we

569
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: worship the altar of a literation. Kansas States have a

570
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: great along their defensive line number three in the country

571
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: seven point five percent of I believe total plays. They're

572
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: creating havoc, forcing fumbles, swatting down balls, tackles for a loss.

573
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: They're linebackers one hundred and eighteenth. Yeah, I love that disconnect.

574
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: It's chaotic. I love it. But yeah, I think it's

575
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: it's led by what Wyatt Ubert think he's white Hubert?

576
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: But why at Ubert? Really really strong player who came on?

577
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: That's all I have.

578
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm going TCU as another home dog. That line is

579
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: very suspicious to me. I feel like it should be

580
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: higher in favor of Oklahoma State. So why TCU?

581
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: What is Oklahoma State done in terms of taking advantage

582
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: of pretty flawed teams this year and separating themselves from

583
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: flawed teams as TCU most certainly is.

584
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they haven't done a whole lot of it, Dan,

585
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: to be fitfully honest with you.

586
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they it was last second. It was twenty

587
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: to thirteen against West Virginia.

588
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: Early.

589
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: They sneak by Iowa State, which is great. That's a

590
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: great win a top fifteen team whatever you consider Iowa

591
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: State right now. But they don't separate from Kansas State

592
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: with Will Howard. They don't beat Texas with Texas trying

593
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: to lose that game. They're nowhere near Oklahoma and they

594
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: barely edge out Texas Tech in a shootout.

595
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: Per Bill Connolly's adjusted scoring margin in that Texas game.

596
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: So keep in mind that Texas won the game forty

597
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: one to thirty four. By Bill's metric, Oklahoma State should

598
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: have won by nineteen points. So it does seem as

599
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: if Texas may have tried to lose the game and

600
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State just wouldn't take it.

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Speaker 1: I watched that game with you, Yeah, we agreed. We

602
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: watched it together online on a live stream for our

603
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Discord server for Bowlers dot Com. We get to watch

604
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Dez Jackson though, that to me is interesting. I'll go

605
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: tc you here, I'll go TCU here. Plus, the points

606
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: don't really have a great feel on most of these

607
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: other games that I rattled off the pennstin Actually I'm

608
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: taking Oklahoma State, by the way. I think they can

609
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: win this game by five points. I don't like. I

610
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: don't like emotionally involving myself with Max Duggan right now.

611
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: That's fair. The only other game that I'll call out

612
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: is is the Penn State minus eleven against Rutgers.

613
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: Rutgers is feisty. They're not love Rutgers here.

614
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: They're not necessarily good, but they are playing hard, and

615
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: I feel like, after years a sort of being like

616
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 2: the little brother to the team next door in Pennsylvania,

617
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: I feel like Seano's going to have them fired up

618
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: for this game in a way that Penn State's not

619
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Speaker 2: going to be able to match. So don't know. If

620
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: Penn State loses a game out right, that would be

621
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: a huge black guy for James Franklin. But I think

622
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Speaker 2: plus eleven points you're giving me double digits. I don't

623
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Speaker 2: really know what to expect that of Penn State. Rutgers

624
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: was close with Michigan, so let's let's go Rutgers here

625
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: plus the number.

626
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Speaker 1: Is this not a letdown look ahead sandwich for Penn

627
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: State beating Michigan to get on the board, soaring high

628
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: to get into the win column. Then they finished with

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Speaker 1: Michigan State. It's a trophy game, man, I think the

630
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: Land Grand Trophy. Yeah, they're all just let downs at

631
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: this point.

632
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: Man.

633
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: I like Rutgers here for the same reasons. I just

634
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: think they play hard defensively. They've gotten some stops. Johnny

635
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: Langan is an interesting all purpose talent. So the way

636
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: you described Rutgers, I can't tell if it's insulting or not.

637
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: So if somebody said, you know, Dan and Tye aren't

638
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: necessarily good, they're feisty, would you be okay with that?

639
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we've heard that before.

640
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Speaker 1: Are you okay? Are you okay? As long as you download,

641
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it, okay, same page. I don't have

642
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: any thoughts about Texas Tech Kansas. I'm happy to wager

643
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: against the Kansas Jayhawks under less miles thrilled to and

644
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: Nebraska Perdue. I think Nebraska is better than Perdue. I

645
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: think the ceiling of Nebraska is more interesting than the

646
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: ceiling of Purdue right now, especially with that boiler Maker defense.

647
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: So I'm taking the road dog there, and I think

648
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: Arkansas is actually better than a zoo. So I'm gonna

649
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: take Arkansas as the road dog there as well. So

650
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: I like Arkansas outright and Nebraska outright.

651
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: Let's go to the afternoon block DAN three thirty three

652
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: games here that I think are interesting for a variety

653
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 2: of different reasons. We've got West Virginia at Iowa State.

654
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: Iowa State, it's a seven point favorite at home Indiana.

655
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Now a Pennix lists Indiana. Yeah, tuttlefull, very difficult to

656
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: say that tuttlefull Wisconsin is favored by fourteen at home

657
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: against the Hoosiers. And then we got Florida minus seventeen

658
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: on the road against the Tennessee Volunteers. Three games that are,

659
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: as I said, different for a multi to different reasons.

660
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: So what I'd say about Iowa State West Virginia is

661
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm interested in that to see how Iowa State rebounds.

662
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Rebounds is the wrong word, but how they react, how

663
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: they follow up that showing a week ago when they

664
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: knocked off Texas, trailed the whole game, fought hard, ended

665
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: up winning it late. I'm curious to see how Indiana

666
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: reacts on the road at Wisconsin. Wisconsin isn't as bulletproof

667
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: as we thought in the beginning of the season when

668
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: we saw you know, that incredible performance five touchdowns by

669
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: Mertz against Illinois, Right like, no good thing can last forever,

670
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: and it hasn't for Wisconsin. And now we're finding out

671
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: the same with Indiana. It hasn't for them either. They

672
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 2: came close against Ohio State, but now a couple weeks

673
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: after the fact, they've lost their quarterback. How are they

674
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: going to react? Can they react in a way that's

675
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: going to keep them inside that number? And the Florida

676
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: Tennessee game traditionally kind of a rivalry. Florida's going to

677
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: win the SEC. East Tennessee may have already packed it in,

678
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: but there is a rivalry component to this one that

679
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: always makes it a little bit interesting.

680
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: So last year, it didn't.

681
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: Not last year, no, no, no, not last year, But just

682
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, the storylines and rhetoric that

683
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: we put forth on the podcast, that's usually an interesting

684
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 2: matchup to talk a little bit more about.

685
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So I have both the Indiana, Wisconsin and Florida

686
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: Tennessee games as my Tracy Chapman specials. I just need

687
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: good reasons. I need good reasons to believe Wisconsin, and

688
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: maybe it's Michael Pennix, but that Wisconsin is comfortably better

689
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: than Indiana. And I need a reason to think that

690
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: Tennessee can stay within twenty points of Florida. I need

691
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: good reasons that are not immediately apparent to me, even

692
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: with Jack Tubble starting in Indiana. I like Iowa State here.

693
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had an opportunity to look

694
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: at the tie breaking protocol within the Big Twelve.

695
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: Because have I ever?

696
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: If Iowa State loses because this is their final game, right,

697
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: this is their final game of the regular season, then

698
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: they Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are all two lost teams,

699
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma State and Oklahoma having more games to play,

700
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: So it would then go to what they did against Texas,

701
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: the fourth place team. If Texas is able to beat

702
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: Kansas State, which there's a good chance they do obviously,

703
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Iowa State and Oklahoma have the advantage there and would

704
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: go on to play each other because Oklahoma State, despite

705
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 1: Texas not trying to lose that game, lost the game.

706
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: If it goes into a three way tie in which

707
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: Texas loses to Kansas State, then there's a three way

708
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: tie for fourth place within the Big Twelve and then

709
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: we go to point differential holding match up between hold on,

710
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: hold on one second, just one second, sorry, and then

711
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: to play the Musicos then enters the fray enters they

712
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: they are entered into the hexagon.

713
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: For the Conca Calf Hexagon.

714
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: The Conca Calf Hexagon, terks icy goes oo okay. So

715
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: essentially there's a very good chance Iowa State in Oklahoma

716
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: play for the Big Twelve championship. I still like Indiana

717
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: against Wisconsin, even if they don't win this game, to

718
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: keep a close, because I don't like the firepower right now.

719
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin seven points against Northwestern supposed feel good about a

720
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: fourteen point favorite against a still pretty good Indiana team

721
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: without Penix. I don't know. I'm taking Indiana there on

722
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: the road in Madison to keep it closer. I'll possibly

723
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: win Florida Tennessee. Florida blows the doors off of them.

724
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: They just do. That's that. I don't have anything further

725
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: to talk about, though. Florida's slow starts worrying me a

726
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: little bit. It's Vandy, Kentucky stuff like that that worries me.

727
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think Tennessee is the team to take advantage.

728
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on those, I'm with you on Florida

729
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: blowing out Tennessee. Oh, and I like Iowa State. I

730
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: just think they're better. Sorry, yeah, I like Virginia's not

731
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: good on the road.

732
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: I like Iowa State. I am curious though, if there

733
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Speaker 2: is any kind of letdown effect there, you know, because

734
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Speaker 2: I think we've when we do the kind of post

735
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: mortem on the twenty twenty season, I think we're going

736
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: to find that there were a lot of teams that

737
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: packed it in early, Like we'll be able to look

738
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: back and pinpoint spot where they packed it in. I

739
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: think we're going to see that. Obviously, the opt outs

740
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: are going to be a thing that maybe are more

741
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: exaggerated in twenty twenty, But I think one of the

742
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: outputs of this year is going to be more juniors

743
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: sitting out than ever before moving forward, getting ready for

744
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, that sort of thing. I do think

745
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: we're going to see a bit of an exaggerated letdown effect,

746
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: or a look ahead factor or a rust factor, if

747
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: you will, with teams having an extended three or four

748
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: week break due to COVID. Like, I just feel like

749
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: those things are going to be one of our big

750
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: takeaways here, and so I will state now, being in

751
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: a letdown spot last game of the year against West Virginia,

752
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: I am inclined to West Virginia. Plus the number. I'm

753
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: with you on West Virginia and not being great on

754
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: the road. I think you're right on point there. But

755
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: the situational stuff to me is super interesting this year.

756
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: And if only because of that, And look, I haven't

757
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: picked a lock right in like four weeks at this point,

758
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: what what difference does it really make. I'll go West Virginia,

759
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: make a.

760
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Declarative, not necessarily a luck of the week, but with

761
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: that same sort of energy, like give me a final

762
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: score and give it to me in a way that

763
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: sort of portrays a steely confidence in West Virginia. And

764
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: I can give you some numbers. By the way, in

765
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the ears, West Virginia number three have a great along

766
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: that defensive line.

767
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: Iowa State wins the game twenty to seventeen. I think

768
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: the if I'm pointing to any reason why that is

769
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: the case, I would say it's because West Virginia is

770
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: actually really good in terms of turnover margin. They're good

771
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: at forcing turnovers. They've had a lot of luck in

772
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: the turnover game so far this year. But turnover margin

773
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: is strong, very good against the passing attack. And if

774
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: maybe they can try to contain brock Party and you know,

775
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: not get crushed by big plays from Breese Hall, they

776
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: can keep it within that number.

777
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Also, brock Party has already had two stinkers right against

778
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Baylor and Oklahoma State. The entac State came in a

779
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: losing effort, but I think that's where he maxes out.

780
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: I think he only has two stinkers in him. If

781
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: you'd only had one of those games, I'd be a

782
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: little bit worried. If I were an Iowa State fan,

783
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: there was another stinker shoot to drop. But I don't know.

784
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I like Iowa State, I just don't know where the

785
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: points are coming from. With West Virginia on the road,

786
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: that's difficult for me to see.

787
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Iowa State plays pretty good defense as well,

788
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: But I'm going to go just kind of as a

789
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: thought experiment, give me West Virginia. I'm with you on Indiana.

790
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you on Indiana. It sucks that they're going

791
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: to be without Panics. It really truly sucks, as he

792
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: was having a nice year. But let's go Indiana plus

793
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: the points. I'm with you one kind of just general

794
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: questionable sentiment as it relates to Wisconsin. And I think

795
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: Florida blows the doors off Tennessee.

796
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

797
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: There six other games very quickly in this afternoon block.

798
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: We've got Syracuse a thirty four and a half point

799
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: dog against Notre Dame. We've got Michigan a four point

800
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: home favorite over the Maryland Terrapins. Iowa minus thirteen on

801
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: the road at Illinois, Virginia minus six at home against

802
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: Boston College, NC State minus seven at home against Georgia Tech,

803
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 2: and the George Bulldog is a huge favorite thirty five

804
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: points a favorite against the Vandy Commodore. Is that one

805
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: being played in Athens? Dan, I really like Iowa here

806
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: minus that number, really like Iowa minus that number. In fact,

807
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: you know what, let's just let's just do.

808
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: It block of the week. You're always due for maybe

809
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: a single sham pain upset. I don't know, no, I

810
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: like Iway here as well. I couldn't find a reason

811
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: to really feel thrilled about Illinois. I like Maryland at Michigan.

812
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: That might actually be my lock. Yeah, lock of the week.

813
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: That's a Big Boy Dan. I think Michigan, thank you

814
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: very much. Listen to Big Boy Bets. Subscribe Big Boy

815
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Bets Dot Show. I just don't think Michigan wants to

816
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: play tackle football in twenty twenty anymore. And Maryland as

817
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: lifeless and listless as they looked against Indiana, I think

818
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: they can move the ball a little bit, and they're

819
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: dealing with their own COVID issues. So yeah, I'm going

820
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Maryland here, even if this game even gets played, because,

821
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: as you mentioned at the top of the show when

822
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: we were discussing news, Michigan has paused all in person

823
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: football activities, so we'll see. I'll select another lock just

824
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: to be safe. I like Notre Dame huge against Syracuse,

825
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: even though Syracuse has shown some fight in recent weeks,

826
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: the unfortunate ending not with standing last week. I I

827
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: suppose Notre Dame could be in letdown mode and they

828
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: just want to call off the dogs early. As soon

829
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: as they go up, like twenty eight to three against Syracuse,

830
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: they end up winning the game thirty five to ten

831
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: or something. I just you're talking about stretching yourself to

832
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: find a reason Notre Dame should pretty comfortably win this game,

833
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Like forty nine to fourteen, forty.

834
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: Nine to fourteen, which I guess only barely covers, barely

835
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: a point, barely come.

836
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll take Notre Dame there. I like Virginia

837
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: against Boston College. I know Philedderkovic got a negative X

838
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: ray he left the game last week. I'm still taking

839
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Virginia here. I think they're coming together nicely. I'm going

840
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: to take Georgia Tech against NCID. I was going to

841
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: go there next, Dan, I'm glad you brought that up.

842
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. They're running the ball. Well they are, aren't they? Yeah?

843
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: They are. That combination of Jeff Simms and Jamier Gibbs.

844
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me. I don't like the Tech defense

845
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: at all, and I do like what Bailey Hawkman has

846
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: been able to do for NZI State. I do think

847
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: the Wolfpack are going to take Tech lightly though. So

848
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I like Georgia Tech maybe outright for like they're so

849
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: prize win of the year. Yeah.

850
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: If you look at Georgia Tech so far this year, Dan,

851
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean, three wins, but to beat Florida State, to

852
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: beat Louisville, Louisville even the game last week against Duke,

853
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: I think Duke was favored in that game, so you know,

854
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: fifty six to thirty three won the game handily. Did

855
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: have seventy dropped on them by coincident, which isn't going

856
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: to go in the highlight reel.

857
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: It's going to happen. It's going to happen.

858
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: I think, all in all, a pretty successful year two

859
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: for Jeff Collins.

860
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: Georgia bik by the way, Georgia big Georgia. Absolutely. But

861
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that Sarah Fuller kicks like a forty four

862
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: yard field goal.

863
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: I want to see kick a field goal. That'd be cool.

864
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Next, let's.

865
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: Go to the late games, and the Sunday game actually

866
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: got one of those. Now, I guess the headliner would

867
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: be Alabama. LSU I guess disagree. The points spread is

868
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight and a half points in favor of Alabama,

869
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: something I never thought I would say, twenty eight and

870
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: a half points Alabama is your favorite. We had more

871
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: opt outs, as we said at the top, for lsu I.

872
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if there is a pack it up packet

873
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: in element to LSU play the sound.

874
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Bun get up, pucket it bun get up, pucket it

875
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: bun get up puck in.

876
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: I wonder if there is a pack it up packet

877
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: in element there with the balue. I think there might

878
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: have been for a while. You go in Alabama here?

879
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

880
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I'm taking Alabama here. I think they can

881
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: run bass plays and not overthink things and give the

882
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: ball to DeVante Smith on bubble screens and jail break

883
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: screens and get it to Najie Harris early and often,

884
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: and that just a slow strangling of LSU and Death Valley.

885
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, something something ugly to something small, something ugly

886
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: to something small. It's it's a revenge Spot game. It's

887
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: sort of it is a revenge Spot Burrow's story game.

888
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: I guess Saban's going to be back for this one.

889
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: I think I don't fully know, but yeah, that makes sense.

890
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: It just strikes me as a situation in which Alabama

891
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: wants to destroy LSUM. I guess I'll go Alabama here

892
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: minus minus anything. You said that, Bam, LSU isn't your headliner?

893
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: What is? What is your headliner?

894
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: UCLA Arizona State, Him Kelly late at Night, Herm Edwards,

895
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Arizona State, not having played since early June. I don't know.

896
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: I just want it's a low spread. I just wanted

897
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: to get weird. I'm gonna probably stay up and watch

898
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: the first half of this anyway. Yeah, I want UCLA

899
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: to be decent enough. I'm also a little bit curious

900
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: about Baylor Oklahoma. I think Baylor has shown some fight,

901
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, Chas Brewer in the second half last week.

902
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we got some good matchups from

903
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: these two last year. It's a different Baylor team one

904
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: hundred percent, but I'm curious. I'm curious their defense has

905
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: been interesting under Dave Randa year one. I want I

906
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: want something here. So those are those are the two

907
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: games I'm most interested. I have Oregon winning by a

908
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns against Cal with absolutely no confidence after

909
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: watching like the fourth straight rate week of a disappointing

910
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: and soft Oregon defense. I have Kentucky winning, but I

911
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: have no confidence as a double digit favorite, but I

912
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: just have less in South Carolina. I have Colorado on

913
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: the road because I like their fight and Arizona's lack thereof,

914
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: especially on defense. And I have Miami against Duke Big

915
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: even though Miami is not necessarily a team that runs

916
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: away from clearly lesser opponents. This year. They let people

917
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: hang around that Marsie Playground team. But I don't have

918
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: a good reason for dukes Miami. We've discussed this. Isn't

919
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: that the first sex and candy? What's the first line

920
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: of sex and candy? Yeah?

921
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: I know what the first line is, but I don't

922
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 2: know if we've ever discussed it on the show.

923
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: Really hang around. I came up with a sound this

924
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: might be like four years ago.

925
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember what I did five minutes

926
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: a little ago at four years fair Fair.

927
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Miami's our Marcy Playground Team of the year.

928
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: They just let teams hang around.

929
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: We did get a preverb, Dan, Oregon State at Utah

930
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: ten thirty ten thirty late night game Utah youtes playing

931
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: host to the Beafs one week after the big win.

932
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: This is interesting to me.

933
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: Hey, fellas, this is Cale and Indiana hitting you up

934
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: with a preverb. And for my first preverb, I'm looking

935
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: out west. Over the course of listening to the show

936
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: and now Big Boy bets with you, Dan and Jeff Schwartz.

937
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: I like to consider myself a misplaced Pac twelve fan

938
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: living here in the heart of the Midwest and the

939
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: team I've kind of latched onto is the Utah Utes. Now,

940
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 3: the Utes open up against Oregon State as a ten

941
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 3: point favorite. Now, tim me, that feels like a lot

942
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: of points for a Utah squad that has yet to

943
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: win a game this season and going up against an

944
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: Oregon State team coming off their biggest win in a

945
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: long time. For my pick, I'm going with Oregon State

946
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: to cover. I re like Jamar Jefferson's playmaking ability last

947
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: week that he displayed against the Ducks, and I think

948
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 3: he can have a repeat performance of that against Utah

949
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: this week. I can't quite trust Jake Bentley and this

950
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 3: offense yet. Granted it's only been two games in their

951
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: short season with their own COVID issues, but this offense

952
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: as a whole has turned it over nine times an

953
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: organ State capitalized on three Oregon turnovers. The hard part

954
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: for me in this pick is my heart tells me

955
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: to go with my new found love for the Utes,

956
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: but my head just keeps telling me to go with

957
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 3: the Beavers in this one to win in Salt Lake City,

958
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: Dan and Time, I crazy for this pick. Boiler up,

959
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: hammer down, and go Utes.

960
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: So there you go.

961
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: If you want more intel on how you can submit

962
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: a preverb going out to our patreon at for ballers

963
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: dot com. Dan, it's a thing like offering. We've gotten

964
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: a couple here and there. We try to use them

965
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 2: wherever applicable, and I thought this was an interesting week

966
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: to use it. So go in Utah there minus the number.

967
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: I have breaking news type you want to play it?

968
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: TC who's gonna play Louisiana Tech next weekend? Oh? They

969
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: had hoped, they had hoped to play SMU in that

970
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: skillet matchup, the Iron Skillet. I just know how much

971
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: you like cast iron cooking, so I figured you'd want

972
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: an update on the iron skillet matchup. But now SMU

973
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: has to keep open the date for their own conference

974
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: purposes and rescheduling purposes.

975
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: I do like cast iron cooking. I haven't cooked on

976
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: my cast iron lately, but I may tonight, may cook

977
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: some salmon on it tonight.

978
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, to mourn the loss of SMU TCU.

979
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: So here's what we got, just to rifle through the

980
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: other games that are being played at night. We obviously

981
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: just talked about at Oregon State Utah. We've made mansion

982
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: of a couple other ones here, but Clemson's it's like

983
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: Utah there. Yeah, I like Utah as well. Clemson a

984
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: twenty two point favorite at Virginia Tech. You mentioned the

985
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: Oregon cal game, but Oregon the ten point favorite. Kentucky's

986
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: favored by eleven and a half in that game against

987
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: South Carolina got Colorado minus seven. Really like Colorado there.

988
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: Oklahoma by twenty two over Baylor, Ucla a three point

989
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: dog against ASU, and the Miami Duke game Miami favored

990
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: by what two touchdowns something like that. The Sunday games

991
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: as it's been moved is Washington State at USC, and

992
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: I think there's one other game here that I did

993
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: not mention in the earlier block, but Stanford Washington is

994
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: going to be played at four o'clock. Washington's favored by

995
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: eleven and a half in that one.

996
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool. I like Wazoo against USC by the way,

997
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: I think they're going to give that defense. The USC

998
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: defense is beat up at linebacker. I believe, also having

999
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: their own COVID issues and they had to move this

1000
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: game back because of contact trace scheduling so they could

1001
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: get their players back whatever who were just contact traced

1002
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: in quarantining. So yeah, I'm gonna go Wazoo here. I

1003
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: think they've got a suitable amount of firepower that USC

1004
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: might struggle with. I don't. I just don't love the

1005
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: USC defense right now. I think they're talented but not great. Otherwise,

1006
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, who do you.

1007
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 2: Like there now? I'm I'm I think I like Wazoo

1008
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: to keep it up, say its strong, strong takes Saturday

1009
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: for US.

1010
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: I like Wazoo to keep it close.

1011
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure USC can pull away from anybody.

1012
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: It hurts me to say that. I like Liberty against

1013
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina tie. I like Liberty plus the points.

1014
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: I like Tulsa minus the points, and I love Marshall

1015
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: minus the points. In the Liberty is a seven point dog.

1016
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: We've got Tulsa minus eleven. We've got Marshall minus twenty

1017
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: three and a half.

1018
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Coastal maybe ekes it out by a field goal.

1019
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: I just think Liberty is real good. So yeah, I'm

1020
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: with you on the other two. I think Telsa should

1021
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball, even though it's the

1022
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: defense that's been great. But they should be able to

1023
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: stop Navy on the ground somewhat. And uh, there's not

1024
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: much to like about Rice against this martiall defense. So yeah,

1025
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm on the same page with you. And what Northwestern

1026
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Minnesota was canceled Western Minnesota. Yeah, And the reason Miami

1027
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: and Duke are playing is because Miami Duke and or

1028
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: excuse me, Miami Wake and Duke Florida State were both canceled.

1029
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: Another these two teams. Yeah another. Did you see the

1030
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: Dabbo quote about runaway Bride? Is what he compared to

1031
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: Florida State to still on it? Still on that juice.

1032
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a question. I don't necessarily

1033
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: know the answer, but I'm curious to know what you think.

1034
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: This is my hypothetical. You have a hypothetical. Sound I

1035
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: just took it off.

1036
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: The board so we can put the Summer to Remember on,

1037
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: But go ahead, can you put it back on?

1038
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Boo doo doo boo boo? If you were to assemble

1039
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: a too deep of players who opted out, I don't

1040
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: know who the quarterback would be. I guess maybe Jamie Newman.

1041
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: I can tell you, Oh.

1042
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: Thank you, there you go. Sorry Emlee.

1043
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: A backup at Arizona, I think a backup at Duke,

1044
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: Jamie Newman, Josh Jackson in Maryland. Who's Who's flashed Dylan

1045
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: McCaffrey in Michigan, who I don't know how much we'd

1046
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: think of him, Aiden Smith, who is the backup. Let

1047
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: me see who else we have a backup at A

1048
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: and M Dariel Mack who has seen some time and

1049
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: has succeeded somewhat at UCF. Can we count Trey Lance

1050
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: just because they're not playing. Sure, let's count Trey Lance

1051
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. But if you assembled a team otherwise

1052
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: around Trey Lance. Yeah, Sage Serrat, Guys, you know all

1053
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: the Pennay Soool, all the Rashawn Slater at Northwestern like

1054
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: legit first second round, Jamir Hall, excuse me, Jamir Javon

1055
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: holland at at Oregon there's there's been a like Kennedy

1056
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Brooks running back right. Sure at Oklahoma, I don't think

1057
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: we can count for Shaan Bateman, even though he's now

1058
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: opted out twice. I don't know if that was in

1059
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: our news. He opted out before the season, came back

1060
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: and is once again opted out. There are a legit now,

1061
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Greg Russo, Edge Rusher Miami. There's a lot of good players.

1062
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: Javian Hawkins. I'm not going to count because he did

1063
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: play before opting out. But if you put together, let's

1064
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: say it too deep, right, of all these players who've

1065
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: opted out, Jamar Chase, ty LSU, right, too deep. I

1066
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: don't know what conference they're in. Let's say they're in

1067
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: some sort of amalgamation of conferences, some sort of combination.

1068
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: They're just playing a bunch of Power five teams. Do

1069
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: they make the playoff?

1070
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh wow? I mean they would have a really good

1071
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Speaker 2: defense because they would have they would have Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 2: they would have Caleb before Jalen Twyman, Pitt, Greg rus Ford.

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Speaker 2: You know, they would be pretty stacked defensively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler Shelvion and Kerry Vincent from LSU, Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they would. They would definitely Jamar Chase could

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Speaker 1: play on offense. Yeah, so I think I think you

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Speaker 1: would almost have to say yes, quarterback worries me even

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Speaker 1: on the ball. With that kind of offensive line, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about maybe the two best tackles

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Speaker 1: that could have played college football this year, and Rashaun

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Speaker 1: Slater and Piney Sewel think about that line. Think about

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Speaker 1: that defensive line anchored behind them by Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 2: It's real good. Oh Man, I.

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Speaker 1: Would take them to make the playoff, absolutely, I would.

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Speaker 1: I have them a god. I would favor this team

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Speaker 1: over Ohio State Notre Dame. I would favor them over

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame by two and a half points. Okay, do

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Speaker 1: you want to do a secret verbal Oh, we haven't

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01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: done in so long. Let's do that.

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Speaker 2: We got a request this week, and it's because we

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Speaker 2: typically would do a promo spot. I will do a

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Speaker 2: promo spot now for our friends. The College Football Blitz

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Speaker 2: put on by Leeerfield IMG College.

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Speaker 1: They do a really good job.

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Speaker 2: Again, you get fifty six minutes of live play by

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Speaker 2: play action. You go inside the booth as these games

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Speaker 2: are unfolding. Learfield IMGY College has broadcast rights to Gosh,

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Speaker 2: I lost count of how many schools, but it's sizable

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Speaker 2: and you really get a great just inside the booth

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Speaker 2: field to what's going on in these games as they

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Speaker 2: jump back and forth, sort of like college football Red Zone.

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Speaker 2: Find it on Serious XM channel eighty four. You can

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Speaker 2: look for it as well on the tune and app

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Speaker 2: just look for college sports Now. But I've talked a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the host of the College Football Blitz,

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Speaker 2: at least for part of the college Football Blitz Stephen Hartzel,

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Speaker 2: who I believe does podcast with our friend Michael Felder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hand in the Dirt.

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Speaker 2: We did get a request to secret verbal mister Hartzell,

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Speaker 2: and I thought that would be an excellent use of

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Speaker 2: our time here. Since it is a scorpion post Saturday,

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Speaker 2: why not look forward to something college football adjacent, even

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Speaker 2: if it's not the actual college football What would our

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Speaker 2: secret verbal be?

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Speaker 1: I think I have something. Name of the podcast is

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Speaker 1: hand in the Dirt, which they discuss football and gardening

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Speaker 1: and growing vegetables, all sorts of things like that. Michael

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Speaker 1: Felder and Stephen Rtsel. I think we relate it to

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Speaker 1: the dirt, and I think we as a weird Twitter audience.

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Speaker 1: Tweet at Stephen Hertzel, what is the what is his

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle? See that was supposed to be your Joe.

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up. Oh, I do have it. I

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Speaker 1: just denoted having Okay, it's just his name, Stephen Hartzel

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Speaker 1: st pH e n hrt z e lll Okay. I

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Speaker 1: say you pronounce it, Stephen Hertzel hand it to their podcast.

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Speaker 1: Tweet at him, Hey, my wife got the flowers you sent,

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Speaker 1: and yes, they're they're very beautiful and thoughtful, but I'm

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Speaker 1: a little weirded out. Maybe tulips, maybe carnations. Maybe get

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Speaker 1: specific with the flowers. If you are a woman listening,

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Speaker 1: just say I. If you are a dude listening, you

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01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: can also say I whatever you want. But I sort

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Speaker 1: of like the idea of my wife. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Say that somebody, whoever it is in your household, received

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Speaker 1: the tulips or the sunflowers or the carnations, and you

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Speaker 1: appreciate the gesture, but you're confused. You are confused why

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Speaker 1: Steven Hartzel would be sending you flowers if that was

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Speaker 1: any sort of untoward message. Right, your reveal your true intentions.

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Speaker 1: What are your intentions here? Like, let's just get it

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Speaker 1: all out in the open. Like it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: weird that you're sending my grandmother flowers. It's a little

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: bit weird you're sending my wife flowers. It's a little

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Speaker 1: bit weird. You were sending my very handsome uncle Steve

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Speaker 1: himself in a normal season, a normal year. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: might be perceived as untoward. But in the age of COVID,

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, you throw you throw all the normal things

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Speaker 1: out the window. All the normal mores in this yere's

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Speaker 1: society go out the window. So what do you mean, Stephen? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are they hey, I think you're real beautiful and we

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Speaker 1: should hang out flowers? Are they a hang in there bouquet?

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Speaker 1: Are they a just wanted to bring joy to your

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Speaker 1: your your home type of bouquet? Let Like, let's let's

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Speaker 1: just get to the bottom of the intentions here, Stephen Hartzell,

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Speaker 1: what's the rule? The rule is you tweet at mister Hartzel,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Hartzell, all one word on Twitter. You do not

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Speaker 1: tell him that we sent you. No, you do not

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Speaker 1: tell him that we sent you. No indicator.

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Speaker 2: Do ask him about the flowers that he sent to

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Speaker 2: you or your significant other, your.

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Speaker 1: Spouse, yeah, family member you live with that it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of out of nowhere sending the boogam vilias,

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Speaker 1: and you just want to know the intentions because it's

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Speaker 1: it has created some awkward conversation in the house. All right, Dan, Well, look,

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Speaker 1: this is always the highlight of my week to preview

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Speaker 1: college football with you. We would urge everyone out there,

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01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: if you haven't already, please do subscribe to the show.

1166
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: Go to Solid ruble dot com for all the intel.

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: That's where you can find all the intel, all the details,

1168
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: everything that you need to subscribe and get our show

1169
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: delivered to you automatically. We'd also encourage you to go

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Speaker 1: on out to verballers dot com. That's where you can

1171
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: find our patreon, get access to the videos that we

1172
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: post every week, get access to some of the bonus

1173
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: content to the discord server as well as get access.

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01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: To the mug get access to the pint classes. We've

1175
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: been retweeting some of those graphics out that folks setting in.

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: But a lot of fun to be had over on

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Speaker 2: the discord, over on the page, and we would urge

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Speaker 2: you all to check it out at for ballers dot com.

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01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: And finally, if you don't already, please do follow along

1180
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: on social media at Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, all the

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: usual hotspots you can find the soliverbal Dan and I'd

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: post there pretty regularly.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good time.

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Speaker 2: Please do check us out. That's all I got for

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Speaker 2: this week, Dan, Same for me for that guy over there,

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01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hildon Brand,

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Speaker 2: Happy December to remember, a happy Scorpion post Saturday. We'll

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Speaker 2: catch you on a few days. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,