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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment

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Speaker 1: and culture, start with headline news and then journey to

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Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally. That

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Speaker 1: dude fee in they love Oh man, I'm in a

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Speaker 1: different bio rhythm moment right now. Those on the inside

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Speaker 1: gotta figure that out. Oh man. But I got love

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Speaker 1: for you guys out there, and we still got Friday

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Speaker 1: swagg away for all the members were still giving away

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Speaker 1: the book, but dash it. I had no more, no

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Speaker 1: my because somebody gets the hundred k give away, and

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Speaker 1: today I will say who they may be. All right,

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Speaker 1: so let's do that. I told you I'm top five

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Speaker 1: when I'm hydrated, and I'm not even hydrated yet. Man.

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Speaker 1: But you know we start off every show, what's up

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Speaker 1: with that dude? Well, last night I did something I

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Speaker 1: haven't done in a while. Played pool. Yeah, y'all want

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Speaker 1: to play pool? Neither? I don't even know. I still

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Speaker 1: I'm forty eight years old. Sometimes I shoot like this.

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Speaker 1: I don't wanna do that. I don't know where to

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Speaker 1: I look at the back of the ball. Do I

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Speaker 1: just so random. Dog, I suck. But I was whipping

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Speaker 1: my homegirl. But ha, we whipping my homie up. I

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Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna start inviting some cats over the

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Speaker 1: place in pool. Had to start small, start light wax.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna see what's up. Other than that, I'm

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Speaker 1: eating real bad. So if I look like puffy, no

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Speaker 1: he did, he just puffy just because I'm already back

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Speaker 1: from Vegas and I feel like, all right, accomplished. Check

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Speaker 1: my box. Look cute enough in the tank top tank top?

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Speaker 1: Not naked? I ain't. I was under that water. I

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Speaker 1: was ordering drinks like this. You have maartend of water

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Speaker 1: the water now I go let the world see what

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Speaker 1: I got because it's a whole lot so Other than that,

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Speaker 1: I had a meeting a donation platform that's gonna help

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Speaker 1: us with a lot of our raffles, auctions, jersey giveaways,

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Speaker 1: Jacques cruises, VIP cruises. I'm doing a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: giving away for the foundation. Guess what, I gotta have

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Speaker 1: somebody to help on top of Brinx, right, So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do that and y'all gonna be able for five

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Speaker 1: man drinks on me too. Five dollar raffle tickets. Ten

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Speaker 1: and hopefully you're the winner. Other than that, I had

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Speaker 1: a Q and A session. Knowing those autograph sessions with

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Speaker 1: El Gallo and Rubicon, shout out to them. A bunch

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Speaker 1: of a lot of liquor brands out there, including Ian J.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, And that was cool. I just gave

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Speaker 1: football player et cetera. A bunch of great questions, had

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Speaker 1: then wrapped it up with a meeting. That's while I'm

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Speaker 1: eating bad because I'm having all these damn meetings and

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Speaker 1: a pastrami sandwich. You know, you fat boy, where you

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Speaker 1: middle of a hot day. I'm doing too much, But

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Speaker 1: shout out to La eighty four Ranata, who is like

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Speaker 1: my sister from another She's amazing, Ken her husband great people,

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Speaker 1: and we're looking to do great work because they're already

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Speaker 1: doing it. I'm doing it. Let's do it together, all right, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about something that's been great and doing

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Speaker 1: it together for a long time. It's the TNT crew

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Speaker 1: Let's just be real about that. And my mama, Michelle

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Speaker 1: Beatlem Mama BE explains why TNT dominates ESPN in NBA coverage.

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Speaker 1: So we know that ESPN's NBA coverage next season, she's

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Speaker 1: Michelle Beadle had to speak out and say, that's why

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Speaker 1: TNT is dominating ESPN and their NBA coverage. Now, she

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Speaker 1: Max Yup. They all just left me on Sports Nation.

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Speaker 1: What am I to do? They leave me? They all

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Speaker 1: why TNT dominates because they're allowed to marinate for decades

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Speaker 1: that's my simple take on what I observed while I

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Speaker 1: was hosting the NBA Countdown. TNT been having pretty much

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Speaker 1: the same crew. There been five that we could count

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Speaker 1: right now, let's count them out. How many people don't

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Speaker 1: hosted that show? Mama Beads yup, Maria Taylor, yup? Say

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Speaker 1: still yep, doors Burg got a doors Burg, got a

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Speaker 1: dose of it? Yep. Hannah Storm, I forgot that damn

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Speaker 1: don't give it. Damn. How talented they all are, and

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Speaker 1: they're all women too, that's interesting. I guess I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that if there were men. Huh, slap on you,

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Speaker 1: Marcel's shame on you. But they You ain't seen no

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Speaker 1: at y'all, all right, So they're no longer employed with

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Speaker 1: the network. Sage's still there, but she's suing the network.

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Speaker 1: Doors just got a promotion. Beat's gone. Hand a storm

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Speaker 1: Berman hand a store in the building for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Salute to her, all right, But then you flip the

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Speaker 1: old tups. I mean, Shaq joined them in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: but it's the same og. That's it. It's Ernie, Charles Barkley,

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Speaker 1: you look at it now, there's gonna be some more

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Speaker 1: they homies again. And you think that's the perfect thing.

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Speaker 1: But when you're ESPN, you're chasing that, and since you're

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Speaker 1: swag away Friday, y'all can get that book. Never shut

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Speaker 1: up from me, that's who. But let's get into Dan Patrick,

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Speaker 1: my dog who wasn't himself at ESPN. He says, I

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Speaker 1: was what corporate wanted. You're that I was what corporate wanted. Wow. So,

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Speaker 1: you later. Get my number down when you're staying over

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Speaker 1: to not all right, alight, let's let's connect, let's see

422
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: what's up. And you know what that is? All right?

423
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: So then you hanging you hang it and you can't

424
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: believe it. And then you got five dollars in your account.

425
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: Then you got five dollars more, then you got commas

426
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, what the hell going out? And you're

427
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: still a youngster, right, But you got work to do,

428
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: so your workouts, you're being smart, you're pushing yourself to

429
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: the limits, but you're also respecting that you're a professional. Now,

430
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: no risky stuff. Don't be stupid out here, right, You're

431
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: getting paid to do something. So this is a lifelong dream.

432
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: You gotta go to mandatory minicamp back in those days, right,

433
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: And you show up to mandatory minicamp, and it's a

434
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: bunch of grown men and you're like, all right, I'm

435
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: a man too, but these men look different, like these

436
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: old ass men like twenty nine, thirty three and you

437
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: like twenty one. You're like this mold this my uncle's

438
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: up in here, right, But then you know them, they

439
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: legends Mount Washington, Ted Washington and walking around taking up

440
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: three stalls, right and just sitting down. What's up, Wiley,

441
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: I said Wiley, and you know, and just talking to

442
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: men like he just the big lion. So it's like

443
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: the cubs gotta get in place. And you're like, damn,

444
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: this sucker out here unking me. I can't believe it.

445
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: But what I'm gonna say, because you're not just talking

446
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: to him, You're not just talking to the army that

447
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: he has behind him, which is the team. You're talking

448
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: to the culture and the rights of passage, and you

449
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: gotta pay your respects as you crossed that bridge, right,

450
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: So you just taking it. You taking the ls, whether

451
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: you want to call it hazing or not. There's another

452
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: grown man talking to you like he wouldn't necessarily do

453
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: any other places, right, and you're taking it because you're

454
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: just like, all right. So you get to the meeting,

455
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: eight o'clock meeting. You're getting there earlier than Tom Coughlin.

456
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: For five minutes early is five minutes late. You like

457
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes earlier. You so scared, and you sit down

458
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: in the seat. You're like, all right, I'm gonna sit

459
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: right here in the front. Nobody gonna want to seat,

460
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: all right, right here on the corner. Nobody gon want

461
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: to see, nobody better than I want to see. And

462
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: then some special team's second string cornerback in his fourth

463
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: year with flip flops on one of them, and he's

464
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: just looking at you like you know what that means?

465
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: Catch you something? Why you get up? Then you look

466
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: for another seat. You sit down. Here comes some backup

467
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: linebacker like that get up again. You're like, damn, where

468
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: I sit so now you're sitting around You're gonna be

469
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: late to the meeting, damn. Then you don't want to

470
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: standing looking for a seat. You don't know where to sit.

471
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: Cats coming in there almost late, they get they see

472
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: it's crazy, hilarious. Coach gives you that big speech that

473
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: pumps you up, and everybody else, like bol or any

474
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: say this shit. Every year, we ain't winning the super

475
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: Bowl like that coach. It's just fun. It's just weird.

476
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. And you do all that. You go

477
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: on the field and then you're like measuring who you

478
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: are compared to these guys immediately and they're not doing

479
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: that to you. They are professionals. They are gearing up

480
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: for the game. You're gearing up for practicer. You trying

481
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: to be like, I got this move, you want to

482
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: see it, and he like, do your move, Oh, real cool,

483
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: real cool, And he's just being calculated. You know, you

484
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: ever see you see it like Floyd a Right, this

485
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: is the perfect you ever see Floyd when he's like

486
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: training his sparing. It's like slow mo. Right, he was

487
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: like and every now and there he goes, but he

488
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: ain't even punching hardy. It's all calculated. As long as

489
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: you train the brain or the body gonna respond, so

490
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: they ain't got to use themselves up in practice. Meanwhile,

491
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: when you're young, and I remember Bruce tapped me one time.

492
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, young man. He was like, Wiley, slow down, man.

493
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I was like why. I thought he was trying to

494
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: like make me go slow because I was looking so

495
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: good that I might take his job or something. I

496
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: was like, you feel threatened? He was like nah, he said,

497
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: you're using up all your young juice. He baby was like, look,

498
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: when you get older, you're gonna realize you should have

499
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: saved some of that young juice. So save it while

500
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: you're young. Right, So you go through all that, you

501
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: fast forward, you go through a year, and the most

502
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: amazing thing about it, I'll give you this. This is

503
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: just gonna be something that lets you know how the

504
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: game goes. So I was eleventh grader wanting to John Alway, Jersey,

505
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: Eric Dickinson, John Ailoy, those my guys, and I wanted

506
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: that jersey. Mama said hell naw. I said, Mama, let

507
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: me get the jerseys. How much is sixty nine ninety nine?

508
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I said, hell naw, sixty nine ninety nine. All right, Mama,

509
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: you cheap and broke, so that's double bad. Right. So

510
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, no John Elway jersey for me in the

511
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: lefth grade. But my first game after getting drafted in

512
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: the preseason, my Hall of Fame game was where in

513
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: Denver Buffalo Bills versus the Denver Broncos Mile High Stadium

514
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: for real, hot dog? Everybody out there a hot dog, like,

515
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: can't breefe for real? I'm like, god, Dad, And then

516
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: you're out there. So we we come out for pregame.

517
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm just warming up and I'm standing here and something

518
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: that was like, all right, John Elway, My guy like

519
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: John Elway. So I'm like, take a peek where Lway at? Right?

520
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: We and warm ups. I'm watching Bruce, I'm watching Phil Anson,

521
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm watching all the guys. I'm like, something told me,

522
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: go look for John Elway. All right? Where l Way?

523
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: And literally I'm like on the forty eight forty nine

524
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: yard line and a turn and like arms distance away,

525
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: y'all what seven Alway? And this wasn't no foot locker jersey.

526
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: It was the John Elway. And I swear in that moment,

527
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: the whole inside of me just start crying and the

528
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: outside of me start being tough, like, yeah, I get him,

529
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm get him. Oh that's always But you know, then

530
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: I turned back around, playing it off like I'm watching

531
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: us and I'm just mesmerized by like my hero, like

532
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, my childhood dream. Not only

533
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: am I here, but he's here and I wanted that,

534
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: And that's the real, that's the authentic right there. Man.

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: You fast forward to that game and you play a game,

536
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 1: it's a blur, you know, it's like Victor wan ba

537
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Yama's first game, Like, what the hell in Summer League?

538
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: You're like, what he sucks? No, he don't suck. He

539
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: doesn't know what the hell was going on. Here's another level, brother,

540
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do jack that game. More of that story

541
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: was I should have grabbed the alway in pregame and

542
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: hugged them, because that was as close as I got

543
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: to in the whole game. I ain't getting nothing, no

544
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: sack nos hurries, no pressures, nothing. That was as close

545
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: as I got to my hero right there. So it's

546
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: an amazing experience. Plus more trillions of them more I'll

547
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, all of them as we develop our relationship.

548
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Over the years. But trust me tonight, don't forget that

549
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: somebody is starting their career tonight, and it may be

550
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: not only a Hall of Fame career. I hate to

551
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: say it. Tom Brady threw his first touchdown pass on

552
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: me and my chargers. You might be watching the goat

553
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: at work tonight. Who knows hay yy yy Yan Yank

554
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: never shut up right here in essence, letting the world

555
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: know who you are. Friday swagg Away, one of the

556
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: members will get that book, get that love right there. Also,

557
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: with's time for us to get into some comments cause

558
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: we gonna fuck up, fuck up from comics. Yeah, Nathaniel Hackett,

559
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, broke cold. Who let's talk through this. Peyton

560
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: has gotten cocky, gotten cocky for somebody. He's someone who's

561
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be such a great coach, has won super

562
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: Bowl in fifteen years and he's talking shit. Please, Well,

563
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I got nine to ten and I still talk off.

564
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna measure the man in

565
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: his cockiness level based off how many did you win?

566
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: You haven't won any Oh? You won one? Oh? Like,

567
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? Now? He only won two?

568
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Like y'all do that at Jerry Jones he only won

569
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: three like what like you can't move a gold post

570
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: like that. Plus, you gotta remember, coaches are all cocky.

571
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Some of them just quiet, some are loud, but they're

572
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: all cocky. You want to know why. They are a

573
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: collection of the egos in the room. Think about it.

574
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: As a coach, you gotta were to where all those

575
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: players respect you. You gotta come in fighting fire with fire.

576
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: And let me just tell you what that fire is.

577
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: They all believe in themselves. So that's who that is.

578
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Can we just move on? Hackett was a bad head

579
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: coach and Peyton shouldn't have said what he said to

580
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: a U Say Today reporter, or he should have and

581
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: just say, hey, welcome to the new era, this new media,

582
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: new head coaching for real. Get these foods they suck?

583
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: Why not? We got all these rankings and levels and stuff,

584
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: and then it's crazy in this world. They tell you

585
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: to accomplish and achieve or sind and then when you

586
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: get up there, you gotta be mute, you can. You

587
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: gotta be eat, you gotta be meek, you gotta be quiet,

588
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta be nice, You gotta be

589
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 1: humble man, what the hell? What's the use to climbing

590
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: up that high? If I can't go on, you gotta

591
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: lay hell. You'na lay hell. If I can say it,

592
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Y'all get the point. So

593
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: here we go, shocking Doctor J in their top ten

594
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: list Shack List, Why I don't agree with it. I

595
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: understand that Doctor J list is the epitome of get

596
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: off my lawn. You don't have Tim Duncan on the list,

597
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: and the only flaw on Duncan's championship run is his

598
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: loss to Lebron. Oh yeah, Lebron not being in your

599
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: top ten? Hate them or love him is ridiculous. Don't

600
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: care if he's still playing. He's twenty years in ay Man,

601
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: what you just said right there? Like Doctor J list,

602
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't like to say nobody lives wrong, but that

603
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: one's the farthest from being right. Het J was set tripping,

604
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: as they say in them screeks. Bird is definitely top ten.

605
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad Shack included Duncan in his top ten. He's

606
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: often left off this list, but he's the greatest power

607
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: forward ever. Yeah, he didn't do enough marketing for himself. Right.

608
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing they say about Ray

609
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Lewis versus London Fletcher. They say, if you look at

610
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: their stats side by side, you'd be like blind taste tests.

611
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: You're like London Fletcher was out there what but he

612
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: did do the marketing like ray Lewis did. Ay, ray

613
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Lewis is better than the beast, but still don't lack

614
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: like London Fletcher Wasn't that dude either. All right, here's

615
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: a member of comment right here on the trade Lance

616
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: really struggling at dab off dab off. I guess you

617
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: hit one of those man. You speak the truth. Yes side,

618
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm a die hard forty nine Ers fan, and Trey

619
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Lance was a project quarterback. Real fans of the Niners

620
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: understood that we also drafted a season college quarterback from

621
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Iowa's excuse me, Douggie First from Iowa State that had

622
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder to prove he belongs Either way,

623
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the forty nine Ers. When I

624
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: was in camp, I was always told competition makes us

625
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: better players as well as better men. Thanks mister Wiley,

626
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: You're welcome. The show is coming along nice. Keep evolving,

627
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: my brother, and get that money, ham backer, ham back.

628
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: Damn right, we'd going now? Would you say, I ain't

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Speaker 1: agree with all you said. I know what you said,

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Speaker 1: Like I used to hate that competition makes you better

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Speaker 1: in practice. I hate it. I told him today at

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Speaker 1: this Q and A. I said, you know what's worse

633
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Speaker 1: than playing against the beast, playing against the like a

634
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Speaker 1: bona fide stud is playing with one. Cause you know

635
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Speaker 1: why you play with one. It's hell to pay if

636
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: you play against you playing once a year, maybe twice

637
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: a year, you play where one. You played with him

638
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You practicing with that suck on Saturday,

639
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Speaker 1: rinse and repeat, do it again next week. Larry Allen

640
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Speaker 1: on my team was way worse than Larry Allen when

641
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: I just saw him here and there playing against him,

642
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Speaker 1: Oh Wednesday, and Larry Allen looking at you. We're so cool.

643
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Speaker 1: That's how he's always looking at a little dip. We's

644
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Speaker 1: so cool. And what life's changed? Man, take your soul

645
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: soul snatching out there. More I listen to Marselves, the

646
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: more I like his commentary. Damn you had like I

647
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Speaker 1: just started. I mean, twenty years in the game, God dag,

648
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Speaker 1: he takes you behind the scenes of what's it really

649
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Speaker 1: like for Trey. Yep, agree, Trey is actually better than

650
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Speaker 1: what most people think. But not for the forty nine ers.

651
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Speaker 1: Tray strength is the long ball. I sat to watch

652
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Speaker 1: his long passes, of him throwing like three perfect long

653
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Speaker 1: spiral passes. They look pretty good. But unfortunately the Niners

654
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Speaker 1: offense doesn't use the long ball very much. Oh that

655
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: sucks because girls love the long ball. He would be

656
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Speaker 1: a better fit elsewhere. He is young, and I believe

657
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: if he finds the right fit, he can do pretty good.

658
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Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you that. I'm hearing conflicting reports.

659
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Speaker 1: One report that I read yesterday said the boy ain't

660
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: looking that good. Then I hear a lot of local

661
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: media saying he looks great well, local media, national media.

662
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Whoever he dated Collins' daughter. Here's the thing, we gonna

663
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Speaker 1: get an answer. We can stop guessing real soon, these

664
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Speaker 1: games gonna get real, These bullets gonna be live, and

665
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Speaker 1: we're gonna see what he really about if he gets

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Speaker 1: the opportunity, and they're gonna put their best foot forward.

667
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: So if he's the man, he's gonna go out there

668
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: and start. Let's see that last one is Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: is actually the best looking quarterback right now. See what

670
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, don't let the national media fool you. Just

671
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: pay attention to the local media. Who has been at

672
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: all six practices so far he had one bad practice

673
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: out of six. I really can't understand why the national

674
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: media wants the kid to fail too badly. Almost makes

675
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: you want to believe race is involved. Well it's not race.

676
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look just white quarterbacks that they've looked at

677
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: and be like, oh he sucks. Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold

678
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: comes to mind of recent history. I mean, they just

679
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: looking for a story. So if we expect you to

680
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: be here and you are here, that ain't much a story.

681
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: You the same old dude, Oh whoa, oh and breaking news.

682
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: A tomato is a tomato and it's still red, now

683
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Versus like a tomato all

684
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden is like black but sweet and square.

685
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: You're like, whoa, what happened to that tomato? Right? That's

686
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: what happens to you. You come in and you highly touted,

687
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: you fall off, or we see something wrong with your game.

688
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Media is just gonna attack that race on that one

689
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of simple, kind of lazy right there, big dog,

690
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: I ain't man, all right, just get into some deer

691
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Speaker 1: or damn dad, dude. This is my newest favorite segment

692
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Speaker 1: right here, because it's pretty nice. Y'all could come at

693
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Speaker 1: me if you want to, if you up to it,

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Speaker 1: if you bout that life home Boy the Er Roads.

695
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Rhodes, that's his name. He's a member. So love

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Speaker 1: to your big Dog, appreciate. He said, when what your

697
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: love becomes your occupation? Do they teach about that transition? Okay,

698
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and figure out what the hell you're

699
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: talking about. Nah, he said, Hey, they talking about like

700
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Speaker 1: loving what you do and then what's next that you're

701
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Speaker 1: gonna love to do. I'm assuming that's what you mean. Well,

702
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: we all are equipped with more than just one skill set,

703
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: more than one level of expertise. The thing is, in

704
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Speaker 1: this world, the challenge is is I always tell people

705
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: about identity. It's not what you're gonna become. You gotta

706
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: start off by saying what you're not going to be.

707
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: And a lot of people want to say, ah, I'm

708
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: gonna be, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be. But what

709
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be is gonna show you a lot

710
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: of who you are and who you're gonna become, because

711
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: you gotta start eliminating stuff right. A lot of times,

712
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: once you get to one thing, you haven't eliminated enough

713
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: other things to no clue what that one thing is

714
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Speaker 1: and more poorly, what the next thing is. So a

715
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Speaker 1: lot of athletes don't have their plan b in toe

716
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Speaker 1: because they saw they were just so focused on I'm

717
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a baller. I was like, all right, let's

718
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: try this another way. What don't you want to be?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, sure, I don't want on nine to five.

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Speaker 1: That's very vague. Be vague here, And that's my point, Like,

721
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Speaker 1: it's okay to go through the process of thought, process

722
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Speaker 1: of trying to find your past shuns up, not just

723
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Speaker 1: your past shun Okay, last one at Marcel's what's your

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Speaker 1: top ten? I assume through stereotype you mean rap. I

725
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: don't think top ten? Maybe oh you god see, I

726
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: got caught slipping. Maybe you want to know my top

727
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: ten in basketball? It's crazy everybody always want to know

728
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Speaker 1: my top ten and rap because I DJ all right

729
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: basketball my top ten Lebron James Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson

730
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Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain. Damn, I only got four kareem. Five kareem

731
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Speaker 1: should be higher. Duncan uh yaiy uh. Now you got

732
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: to throw in like one or two old timers out.

733
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Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. Kevin Durant seven, Steph Curry, Hey,

734
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Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? Karl Malone nine? Kobe I'm not lying, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Kobe's ten, nine or eleven. He's between nine and eleven.

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Speaker 1: Kobe's in there, though. Throw Kobe in there, then I'm

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00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: gonna get slapped in the back of the head. Someone

738
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: like you forgot. You know, you can throw Jerry Wessa

739
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: Algibator all that. Man. I ain't see them playing. I

740
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: ain can't lie to y'all. I got respect for him,

741
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: but I ain't see him playing. All right, y'all, Now

742
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: for y'all the moment you've been waiting for. Who in

743
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: the hell Wiley, Who in the hell is gonna win

744
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: that jersey? And when they pick up the jersey, nothing

745
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: but cards gonna fall out because they're the one who

746
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: guessed the hundred k contests right there, the one who

747
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: got the exact day in time or closest to it

748
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: during our contest, which lasted about a week or two

749
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Speaker 1: somewhere in that world of when we are approaching and

750
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: now passing one hundred thousand subscribers. So the winner of

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: the one hundred k contest is one Mike fifty six b. Yes,

752
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, like I said, two weeks ago, this

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00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: what he wrote, This is gangster. He said, I think

754
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: you averaging about seventy seven to fifty sub a month.

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: You at ninety three thousand today. So my guess is

756
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Speaker 1: somewhere around the end of the month or beginning of

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Speaker 1: next month. Therefore, I shall conclude Tuesday Show August first,

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00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: at seven pm. Yo, Mike, you were three minutes off. Wow,

759
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Mike was three minutes off. It was at six fifties seven.

760
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Speaker 1: We went over one hundred thousand, So congrats to you. Now.

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Speaker 1: Second place was only thirty thirty seven minutes off. Third

762
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: place was like twelve hours off. Y'all did a good job,

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00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: man like respect to y'all. Salute to y'all for just

764
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: playing along with me. I'm a big ass kid. I

765
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: like doing stuff like this, Gotta make up reasons to

766
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: give y'all stuff, and I'm gonna keep doing it because

767
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: it's fun and we can do it our way. So

768
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: so congratulations once again to you, Mike for all of

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Speaker 1: your great work and your missteo class that allowed you

770
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: to look in at Crystal Ball and figure out when

771
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: we went over one hundred k. All right, y'all, y'all

772
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: know how we finished every show We finished with a

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00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: why lee is them? Yeah? Wait until it's dark to

774
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: see who's really with you? Now that's interesting and it

775
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: ain't for the reason I think that hits us. First,

776
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: Wait until it's dark to see who's really with you? Right?

777
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: Whoa now we all think university. Then you see who

778
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: really with you? Who down with you? I caught that

779
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: layer too, But this is the other layer. How do

780
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: you see people in the dark? Like? Wow, how counter intuitive? Like,

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00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it's dark, then I ain't just talking

782
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: about like I'm talking literal and I'm talking about circumstantial

783
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: and it's dark and now I'm gonna see who's still

784
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: with me? But I can't see right now, Like when

785
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: you down and out, you're like, man, I can't see

786
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: the light at the end of the tunnel. But that's

787
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: when you're supposed to see who's with you? But you

788
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: can't say ah, So you know what they're really saying.

789
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: It is, who are you gonna be able to lean

790
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: on to have blind faith with? Right? Who are you

791
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: gonna be able to trust? Who you gonna know that's

792
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna pick you up by your other senses? Right? They

793
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna you're just gonna be able to fill them right there, Right,

794
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to guide you. You can hear them. Right?

795
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, isin't that dope like us? Adult and lyric? Right,

796
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: wait until it's dark to see enough. He ain't gotta

797
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: say no more. But who's really with you? Godly who?

798
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: So think about this when you're going through some circumstances,

799
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: some versity in your life and you're trying to figure

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00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: it out, and you're trying to see which way is

801
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: up and you're trying to figure your way out of

802
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: the situation. Remember it's dark. You may not see clearly.

803
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: And don't be so hard on yourself because you can't

804
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: see clearly because you found yourself in this trap. You

805
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: found yourself in this hole. Right, So that's one level

806
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: of it. Like it's okay, you can't see right now.

807
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: It's like when the kid gets hurt, kids hyper ventilate.

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00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: God dunt if I see another kid and like he

809
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: about to die because he tripped and failed. I'd be like, hey, man,

810
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: who I'm here? Relax. It's all gonna start coming together

811
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: when you relax. But you know what, that kid cannot

812
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: see anything but what he's feeling in that moment. That

813
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: kid can't see farther than his nose all he this hurts,

814
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: This is life and this sucks. Right well, we have

815
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: matured past that place. So when you get caught up

816
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: in a bind versity, remember you may not be seeing

817
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: it clearly right now. But that's okay because that's part

818
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: of the test, part of the circumstances. And and and

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00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: whoever is there with you who U can't see are

820
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: the ones you need to ride with, man, damn it.

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Speaker 1: So wait until it's dark to see who's really with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all got to do it. For more to it,

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Speaker 1: check the show notes for all the information on our

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Speaker 1: topics today today. Want to keep the conversation going, Let's

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Speaker 1: talk find me on all socials at Marcell's Wiley More

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Speaker 1: Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude

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Speaker 1: Entertainment and Workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Marcell's whially Paul Anderson and Nick Panella. Thanks for all

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Speaker 1: the love, ratings, and subscriptions and reviews, membership. So while

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Speaker 1: these world on YouTube, keep it coming because there's more

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Speaker 1: coming from, more to it. Talk to y'all. Hellasinga