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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle Podcast. I'm Scott Bear and that over

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Speaker 1: here Tory mcclaney. There's lots of pointing this morning, on

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Speaker 1: a Monday morning, as we break down our dueling oh

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Speaker 1: fifty three men roster projections. I would go ahead and

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Speaker 1: encourage everyone in the audience to pull up their laptop

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Speaker 1: or phone, go to Atlanta Falcons dot com, Tip tap

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Speaker 1: tip TYPEE right or pull up the app yeah, or

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Speaker 1: please do that, and then go to our roster projections.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be nice to have a visual there as

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Speaker 1: we talk about what we think is going to happen

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Speaker 1: with this roster. And we're not going to go through

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Speaker 1: it position by position because that's boring, right. I think

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is try to highlight some areas

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Speaker 1: that were difficult for us to make choices, some really

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Speaker 1: tough cuts, and then also kind of where we think

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Speaker 1: the Falcons still need to fill in with some talent.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about all those different types of

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Speaker 1: things as we head towards the big fifty three man

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Speaker 1: roster cut down the deadline to turn in the trimmed

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Speaker 1: roster is at four pm Eastern time, and before we

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Speaker 1: get into on Tuesday. On Tuesday, thank you for including

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Speaker 1: dates the time August thirty, if anyone's keeping a calendar, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you should. Um, But before we get to all that,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all Debbie Debbie Downer here. Wow, and

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Speaker 1: let's just say this, Okay, there's a lot of excitement

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Speaker 1: about what's going to happen next with the Falcons and

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Speaker 1: who they're going to go into the future with. This

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Speaker 1: is also not one of my favorite days on the

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Speaker 1: calendar because we have Tory and I have gotten to

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Speaker 1: know a lot of these people who aren't going to

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Speaker 1: difficult thing. Yeah, so we talk about this, right and

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Speaker 1: we're pumped, but it's also, you know, it's really weird

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Speaker 1: because like in terms of like our jobs, like this

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Speaker 1: is a really big day for our jobs, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are curious as to who makes the

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Speaker 1: fifty three man. But then in terms of like these

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure like we're not celebrating

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Speaker 1: like so and So's on the fifty three man and

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Speaker 1: so and so's not because that's not what a cutdown

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Speaker 1: day is. It's actually kind of it sucks, like to

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Speaker 1: be completely honest, Like, and I think Arthur Smith even

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Speaker 1: said postgame, he like came in and immediately was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have a lot of respect for these

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Speaker 1: eighty guys who have been here for the last few

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Speaker 1: having to make these really difficult decisions. And another thing, too,

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Speaker 1: is this fifty three man. Just because they announce fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty three guys that you're going to see week one

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Speaker 1: and this is what's happening, and here's who they have

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Speaker 1: once again we're already off of my very limited rundown

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Speaker 1: script already, but let's talk about uh, Cadrey Allison and

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Speaker 1: I think he's a good example of everything that we're

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Speaker 1: saying here. He's a guy who had a really good preseason, right,

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who's been on the roster bubble a

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Speaker 1: couple of times before. And I talked to him after

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Speaker 1: Saturday's game, after what was another good performance by him,

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Speaker 1: and he said, look, I'm gonna go about my Monday

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Speaker 1: So that's one point, is that there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: anxiety leading up to this. Number two. If you go

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Speaker 1: back to last year, he made the fifty three man

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Speaker 1: so that changes periodically as injuries happen, as guys hit

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Speaker 1: you have to consider. And fair warning, you're listening to

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Speaker 1: roster construction. Yeah, I I own that. Yeah, sure I

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Speaker 1: am too. I like the roster math. I like the

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Speaker 1: strategy behind it, and there are you're right, there are

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Speaker 1: so many different ways to get on the roster now

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Speaker 1: with practice squad elevations and a larger practice squad, and

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Speaker 1: He's an NFL running back, period. So before we kind

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Speaker 1: the week, general impressions of what was a very competitive,

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Speaker 1: When I was talking to Kelly Price and Rise Up Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Bone Nicks or anybody else. It doesn't matter. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: much there's so much that we don't know that Arthur

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Speaker 1: Smith has not shown anyone, for example, Felipe Frank's at

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Speaker 1: Um so I think it's been a really competitive camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been one of the most intriguing in

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Speaker 1: and stuff about the fact that there are certain position

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Speaker 1: groups in my opinion and yours, the defensive line where

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Speaker 1: it's very possible that the group they go into the

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Speaker 1: regular the first fifty three, the five or so guys

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Speaker 1: that they have, maybe they're going to make an addition there, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: So with the defensive line, I feel like I've said

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks now, I know we've talked

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Speaker 1: about it, that the depth that you need across the

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Speaker 1: defensive interior is currently not in Atlanta. And I know

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Speaker 1: that that's like pretty harsh to say, but I did.

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Speaker 1: I do think that there are going to be some

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Speaker 1: cuts made across the defensive interior across the league that

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Speaker 1: you could go find someone who could come in and

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Speaker 1: help you immediately in terms of depth, because there's no

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Speaker 1: other position group that has suffered the injuries to the

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Speaker 1: degree the defensive line has so many injuries, a retirement,

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Speaker 1: like there are so many things that happened with this

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Speaker 1: defensive interior that it almost to me it's like you've

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Speaker 1: gotta like there are some guys on eighty man rosters

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Speaker 1: that could come in and help immediately. But then also

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Speaker 1: in saying that, and I even wrote this after the

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Speaker 1: game on Saturday, the third preseason game, we saw some

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Speaker 1: guys like Derek TAngelo and Nick Thurman and Abdullah Anderson

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Speaker 1: play pretty well. They played as well as I think

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Speaker 1: I've seen a second third string defensive line play in

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Speaker 1: a preseason game maybe ever this we're talking about preseason

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Speaker 1: games now, so I have I do add that cab.

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Speaker 1: But they almost it was almost kind of like them

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Speaker 1: being like, hey, Tory, like eat your words. You've been

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Speaker 1: saying for now two weeks that we're us as a

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Speaker 1: collective group cannot make this fifty three man or we

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Speaker 1: will make it, but then they're gonna go out and

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Speaker 1: get somebody signed, somebody else, and then we're gonna be gone.

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Speaker 1: They put up a fight on Saturday that I think

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Speaker 1: should be noted, and it's one of those things where

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Speaker 1: it's like, did they prove on Saturday and throughout this

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Speaker 1: last week of the preseason that they do deserve spots

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Speaker 1: on this fifty three man roster and they do deserve

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Speaker 1: to be considered as the important depth pieces that the

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Speaker 1: Falcons desperately need a defensive line. They've made their case.

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Speaker 1: I will say that they have made their case, and

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Speaker 1: they have made me kind of rethink a little bit

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Speaker 1: where I think this position group goes in the next

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Speaker 1: week two weeks. Yeah, And I talked to Derek TAngelo

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Speaker 1: after Saturday's game. One great dude, delightful human being. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really too. He is as college roommates with Arnold Eba Katie.

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Speaker 1: My favorite story to come out of preseason was talking

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Speaker 1: to both of them together and go find the video.

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Speaker 1: Go find the video. It's it's circle. It's probably on

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Speaker 1: my Twitter. It circled Twitter a few times. But they

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Speaker 1: have like they sing, So it was like they had

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Speaker 1: a house at Penn State and Ak like very much

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Speaker 1: like wanted Derek TAngelo to live with him, and so

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Speaker 1: he essentially like made him live with him, and they

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Speaker 1: had of like it was like five guys in this house,

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Speaker 1: and they had like a recording studio and Ak sang

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Speaker 1: and TAngelo like did all this stuff and it was

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Speaker 1: just very it was it was an amazing, like five

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Speaker 1: minutes of just pure happiness. I loved. I loved the relation.

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Speaker 1: I love their relationship. Yeah, and I think nobody was

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Speaker 1: happier about Tangelo's performance than Ak. And that includes Derek, right,

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Speaker 1: because because I talked to both guys and Arnold's because

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Speaker 1: Arnold is is is a high second high second round

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Speaker 1: draft pick, I can say that, right, who they traded

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Speaker 1: up to get security? Yeah, right, and then he's got

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Speaker 1: his buddy who is like scrapping and fighting for ever

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Speaker 1: for a roster spot and a chance to show that

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Speaker 1: he can make it in this league. So he's really pulling.

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Speaker 1: I think there's more drama when it comes to what

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Speaker 1: Derek is going to do than even we could have

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Speaker 1: a spend five minutes about how we've seen Arnold evolve

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Speaker 1: and produce and all these other types of things. So

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Speaker 1: I do think defensive line is one of those spots.

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Speaker 1: I think the secondary looks secondary looks pretty set. I

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Speaker 1: think the offensive line looks pretty set at this point.

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Speaker 1: But gosh, you go back to that defensive line. If

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Speaker 1: you were to do a fifty three man roster projection

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Speaker 1: in May, it's Anthony Rush, Grady Jarrett, to Quon Graham,

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Speaker 1: Marlon Davidson. I don't know if Eddie Goldman was signed yet,

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Speaker 1: let's just say that he was and Vincent Taylor. It

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00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: looked very different because Abdula Anderson wasn't on this roster

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Speaker 1: in July, and Derek TAngelo has has flashed. They even

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Speaker 1: lost Jalen Dalton yea at some point during the year.

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Speaker 1: So think about the attrition, right, Yeah, who was he

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00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: was playing a lot he was that you almost thought

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Speaker 1: that he had the edge for that fourth or fifth spot.

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Speaker 1: So talk about a position coach that has done his

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Speaker 1: work this summer is Gary Emmanuel My goodness. Um. So

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Speaker 1: I think as we look at it and as we

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Speaker 1: kind of wrap up here, Tory um kind of okay.

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Speaker 1: So we've talked a lot about Tuesday, right, and then

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Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about what's gonna come after. Some

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna end up on ir. Maybe you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have some signings. You're gonna build a sixteen man practice squad. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So now they've got a week or two to head

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Speaker 1: into that Saints game. Now it's game time. Right, we've

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00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: seen our last open practice. It's here. Oh you're like upset,

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00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: and I'm like, thank God. But no matter how you

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00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: feel about it, right, um, we're heading towards Saints Week. Um.

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Speaker 1: This this collection of talent, I think, um kind of

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00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: fun thoughts on it is. I think all the competition

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Speaker 1: has really forged, forged this roster, and they got that

532
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: chip on your shoulder, we don't care about your expectations, attitude.

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Speaker 1: I think all those things have been good. I think

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Speaker 1: it will help them as they move forward. I do

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Speaker 1: two and I think it's one of those things where

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Speaker 1: we still don't really know what the identity of this

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Speaker 1: team is. We can say like chip on your shoulder,

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00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: but what does that mean in terms of actual football? Yeah,

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00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: and like I love that mentality, but can you show

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Speaker 1: it to me on the field in the heat of

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Speaker 1: the moment? And I think that is where we are

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00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: right now, where we still have so much to learn

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00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: about this team. Well after the fifty three men roster

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00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: is quote unquote set. And I use quote unquote set

545
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: because it's never set. But as Arthur Smith said, the

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00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: Hayes never in the barn and that's accurate. And that's accurate.

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Speaker 1: So moving forward, can you show me that you do

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Speaker 1: have a chip on your shoulder when you play the Saints,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, the Seahawks, whoever else. We're playing in the

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Speaker 1: first month of the season, right and it's it's gonna

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: be fast to see in the end. After the final

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00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: preseason game, Tory wrote, there are still more questions. Yeah,

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00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: and there are a lot more questions about a team

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00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: with a lot of new That's what's going to be

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00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: fascinating as we watch the Falcons progress through the early

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Speaker 1: portion of the season, and you will hear all about

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Speaker 1: what we're learning, what we've seen what we expect moving forward.

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Speaker 1: On the Falcons Final Whistle Podcast, Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for joining yet again, don't forget. After the Falcons

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Speaker 1: set their initial fifty three man our buddies over at

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Speaker 1: Falcon's Audible are going to break this whole thing down,

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Speaker 1: so rate review all that type of stuff, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon, my ear