Speaker 1: Madness Show, Badays.
Speaker 2: Minnesota Tim, Jake's Takes Madness.
Speaker 3: It is Jake's Takes Time. On a Thursday morning or
Speaker 3: whenever you are listening to this podcast, it is Minnesota
Speaker 3: Tim and Jake's Takes Day. We know this is your
Speaker 3: favorite day of the year because this is a segment
Speaker 3: that Jacob has created and we have been following for years.
Speaker 3: It's time for Favorable, Formidable, and fifty to fifty, where
Speaker 3: we run through each game of the Minnesota Vikings schedule
Speaker 3: and predict if the outcome is favorable, formidable or fifty
Speaker 3: to fifty. But first, because I like to be a gentleman,
Speaker 3: even to my fellow men, Jacob, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I've been good. Like you said, it's the biggest day
Speaker 2: of the year. It's the opening of the NFL season
Speaker 2: Chiefs Lions tonight. It's the opening of school in Lichfield.
Speaker 2: So I gotta see one hundred and thirty students today.
Speaker 1: And it's on the Thursday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we do. We have like conferences the first
Speaker 2: two days, so technically the first day school was Tuesday, and.
Speaker 1: Teacher parent conferences the first two days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like premium, so like get yeah, get to know
Speaker 2: your conferences in the school, especially for the fifth graders
Speaker 2: right because they're going from an elementary school to the
Speaker 2: middle school, so they get to like walk around the
Speaker 2: building without anybody really there. So it's for them. It's
Speaker 2: really nice. For the older grades, I you know, it's
Speaker 2: not probably as big of a deal, but it's a
Speaker 2: good way to get two school days out of the
Speaker 2: way without actually having school, so because it counts. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's that's today, or that was that's two days,
Speaker 2: so now it's actual school today. And then it's the
Speaker 2: opening of the middle school football schedule, the first game today,
Speaker 2: so it's just that all everything is today.
Speaker 3: When I was preparing for this podcast, my first thought was,
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to hear Jacob's offensive playbook for the
Speaker 3: Lichfield Dragon's middle school football team. And we can get
Speaker 3: to that next week. Yeah, Game one recab after the game,
Speaker 3: so we can hear how the game went, what they
Speaker 3: play calls were, to hear the the details, because I mean,
Speaker 3: you're a game tape guy, you know, you know you're
Speaker 3: you're just deep diving into the all twenty two middle
Speaker 3: school football man.
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll just leave you. We'll just leave you with
Speaker 2: this cliffhanger. If we beat and All tonight, I think
Speaker 2: the score has got to be like six to zero.
Speaker 1: Hey, win to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this group they I think they only won one
Speaker 2: game in Tiger game last year, but every other game
Speaker 2: they only lost by one score. So we could definitely
Speaker 2: flip that. You know, it's the kind of team that
Speaker 2: we could win five games, we could win one game
Speaker 2: and just it's gonna be the details. So we'll see
Speaker 2: how we are on those little details. Those drive killers.
Speaker 2: I've been talking a lot about that this week. Can't
Speaker 2: have the drive killers, right, the fumble that turned you know,
Speaker 2: fumbled snaps, so now it's second and seventeen. We ain't
Speaker 2: converted seven second and seventeen very often, right, you know, miscommunications,
Speaker 2: wrong routes, not knowing you man, that's to be detail oriented?
Speaker 2: Is that was our focus this week?
Speaker 1: So are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Like like that sounds like what an NFL coach would
Speaker 3: say before their game.
Speaker 1: Still, we've got to win the turnover battle. Yep.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you have nothing to talk about one of
Speaker 2: these weeks, you can just do a press conference, fake
Speaker 2: press conference.
Speaker 1: Seriously, we might have to not because it's amazing to
Speaker 1: talk about but just for fun.
Speaker 2: Well, we always have to talk about Yea, it might
Speaker 2: be a good bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great. So let's do this.
Speaker 3: Let's start the Minnesota Vikings predictions. Game one on Sunday,
Speaker 3: September tenth, versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a twelve o'clock
Speaker 3: kickoff on CBS M Baker Mayfield's the starting quarterback for
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Favorable in my opinion.
Speaker 2: I also have favorable. Yep, we'll talk a lot about it.
Speaker 2: The schedules one of the hardest. I look the exact raining.
Speaker 2: Most people have it in the top it's like the
Speaker 2: top five I think for strength of schedule this year,
Speaker 2: like the rankings, I don't know. There's we'll get to it.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of games that I don't see
Speaker 2: as uh, super formidable, but there's a lot of like
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty games that could you know. Again, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like our Lichfield dudleical team.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I can see this Vikings team having double digit wins,
Speaker 2: but if the wheels fall off a little bit, things
Speaker 2: don't go their way, it could go south. So yes,
Speaker 2: if they're going to be a formidable team themselves. They
Speaker 2: got to have the bucks at home. That's got to
Speaker 2: be a win.
Speaker 3: Yes, I will share more later on my expectations for
Speaker 3: the Viking season, but I think you'll feel it out
Speaker 3: as as it goes on.
Speaker 2: So we're both at one to know, right.
Speaker 1: Want to know here we go? Want to know? Here
Speaker 1: we go?
Speaker 3: Game two Thursday at Philadelphia, seven fifteen on Prime Video,
Speaker 3: which is everybody's favorite.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean, you've got to go formidable on
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no ski out Thursday night at Philadelphia. I think
Speaker 2: last year we had this exact same game. We got
Speaker 2: our butts kicked. So yeah, it's formidable. Defending Super Bowl
Speaker 2: attendees for the NFC, right, the NFC champs from last year,
Speaker 2: I mean, not impossible to win, but yeah, you can
Speaker 2: chuck that one up as a loss.
Speaker 1: Last year.
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins threw like three picks in this game, three
Speaker 3: terrible interceptions. One of them was on Justin Jefferson, and
Speaker 3: I think we got crushed like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: The score might have been a little closer. Well, it
Speaker 3: would have been a little closer. There's no doubt in
Speaker 3: my mind. If Kirk Cousins didn't throw three interceptions while
Speaker 3: we were in scoring position in every single one of them. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we're one and one for both of us. Game
Speaker 3: three got a little bit of a break. Sunday, September
Speaker 3: twenty fourth, versus the Los Angeles Chajes, twelve pm off
Speaker 3: on Fox. Oh, this is a tough one. I'll say
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. I'm gonna I'm gonna be a wost
Speaker 3: since say fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's being a whist because the Chargers
Speaker 2: weren't great last year. They have some guys right, but
Speaker 2: they always have a lot of injuries. They have yet
Speaker 2: to kind of put it all together, so I think
Speaker 2: they're very They're kind of like a the Vikings of
Speaker 2: the AFC a little bit where they have a high ceiling,
Speaker 2: but they also have a low floor. So I think
Speaker 2: they're a fifty to fifty game. Since it's at home,
Speaker 2: I think Kirk Cousins outduels them a little bit, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's probably gonna be a high spring game,
Speaker 2: but the Vikings get it done.
Speaker 3: Since it's okay, so you're gonna go two and one,
Speaker 3: two and one, Okay, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: One and two.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a bad feeling.
Speaker 1: It's a fifty to fifty game.
Speaker 3: I have a bad feeling about the Vikings Chargers game.
Speaker 3: I mean, Justin Herbert's a beast and like, like you said,
Speaker 3: they were a playoff team last year, but they had
Speaker 3: one of the worst meltdowns ever against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3: They're not the most best, but they're not the best
Speaker 3: coach team in the NFL. The Chargers, you know, their
Speaker 3: coach is kind of always on the hot seat, new
Speaker 3: offense coordinator Kellen Moore. So yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: there's a lot to like about the Chargers, and there's
Speaker 3: the roster when you look at it up and down,
Speaker 3: is just stacked, Like there's no reason why they shouldn't
Speaker 3: be one of the top AFC teams, but somehow every
Speaker 3: single year they underachieved. So Week four at Carolina, new
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback number one overall pick Bryce Young versus Adam
Speaker 3: and Adam Thielen on the Carolina Panthers twelve o'clock came
Speaker 3: on Fox. I will say favorable in this one.
Speaker 2: Favorable as well.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, even if it's a
Speaker 2: road game, you gotta be a rookie quarterback like Bryce.
Speaker 2: The defense is solid, but offense is not. So take
Speaker 2: care of business.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be an easy win though,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, I just I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a go to Carolina. You take your business, you
Speaker 3: crush them by ten.
Speaker 1: To twenty points. I see that as a field goal game, mhm.
Speaker 2: And honestly we saw it last year, right. But a
Speaker 2: lot of the Vikings games I think will be dicey, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think the forum is going to change that
Speaker 2: much from last year where we're gonna just blow people out.
Speaker 2: I think the way we saw it last year with
Speaker 2: a lot, I mean, eleven to one score games is
Speaker 2: a lot, but probably won't have that many. But you know,
Speaker 2: there's still gonna be probably five, six, seven, eight, and
Speaker 2: we'll just see what kind of we were eleven and
Speaker 2: o last year. We'll see if we stay with a
Speaker 2: favorable record, probably not perfect again, but at least if
Speaker 2: we can stay above five hundred with those, we should
Speaker 2: be an okay shape.
Speaker 3: So Week five at home versus Kansas City a three
Speaker 3: to twenty five start on CBS, so that's probably a
Speaker 3: Jim nance Tony Romo game.
Speaker 1: I will say formidable.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's an easy one. Obviously, best team in the league.
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes, Yeah, probably a loss. That's what I marked
Speaker 2: it day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you would think Travis Kelcey would be back
Speaker 3: by that game. Who knows if he's going to be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent healthy because of his hyper extended knee,
Speaker 3: could be out on Thursday Night Football versus the Lions.
Speaker 1: But I also.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't put it past him at all if he played
Speaker 3: against the Lions on Thursday Night Football because Kelsey just
Speaker 3: seems like one of those rough and tough guys that's gonna.
Speaker 1: Go on the football field with a broken leg.
Speaker 3: That's just kind of like the the uh, the thought
Speaker 3: that I have when I think of Travis kelce So
Speaker 3: I got the vikings at two and three through Week five.
Speaker 3: You have the vikings at three and two.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm h correct Week six.
Speaker 3: At Chicago twelve o'clock game on Fox. This is a
Speaker 3: tough one. What do we expect from the Chicago Bears
Speaker 3: this year? Justin field is a big question mark. Can
Speaker 3: he throw the football? Obviously, he can run the football
Speaker 3: like none other. The vikings historically have struggled at Soldier Field.
Speaker 3: The Chicago Bears have a new wide receiver, DJ Moore.
Speaker 3: I say, the Vikings have to have this game because
Speaker 3: of what's coming up. So I'm gonna say favorable Vikings
Speaker 3: are three and three after Week six.
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. The only aspect I would maybe tweak
Speaker 2: with that would be I have it as a fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty though, just because at Soldier Field, regardless of
Speaker 2: when or where or how right, I just and at
Speaker 2: Chicago game is always, almost always, almost always gonna be
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty game. So I did put as
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty game. I'm just checking I win
Speaker 2: totals here once. I got one, two, three, four, so
Speaker 2: that'd be a dub yep, yep double when I mean.
Speaker 3: Let's go, okay, Week seven, Monday Night Football versus San
Speaker 3: Francisco again, another team that's kind of a question mark
Speaker 3: on Monday Night football. Rock Party was amazing in seven
Speaker 3: games last year. But I'm going to say formidable.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, see I put I went fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: just because there's obviously the defense there. I mean, their
Speaker 2: Nantcy favorites, so this might be a little Homery there's
Speaker 2: something about and market it as an l so it's
Speaker 2: one of those fifty to fifty games and actually moves.
Speaker 2: But I do think there's a little more risk to
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers than people are giving them credit for.
Speaker 2: You know, they just think rock Party, they just think
Speaker 2: Brock Party is just gonna automatically be like a top
Speaker 2: ten quarterback. It's like, I mean, as much as we
Speaker 2: love the underdog story, right, thirty two teams, right, all
Speaker 2: these professional scouts, these professional this is what they do
Speaker 2: for a living. They said this guy wasn't worth drafting for,
Speaker 2: you know, basically seven full rounds right of the NFL three.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty impact right, and I get.
Speaker 2: They could all be wrong, but think about how I mean.
Speaker 2: My point is, I don't think perty's a sure thing.
Speaker 2: Obviously he had some fire in a bottle last year.
Speaker 2: Maybe he recaptures that. I think he's somewhere in the middle. Right,
Speaker 2: He's probably not as good as he was last year,
Speaker 2: but he's probably not unstartable. So my point is, I
Speaker 2: just think there's a lot more variance to the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers than people assume there will be. The difference
Speaker 2: is they have a defense, so defense keeps you in
Speaker 2: every game. He doesn't have to be special. So I
Speaker 2: have it as a loss still, but I don't I'm
Speaker 2: not a huge forty nine Ers guy, just as in general,
Speaker 2: for like to actually win, get to the NFC Championship,
Speaker 2: win the NFC Championship, that kind of level. I think
Speaker 2: they're a good division team. Thing more, I.
Speaker 3: Would agree there's lots of risk with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: So defensively they're they're they're buttoned up. But offensively, besides
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, Deebo Samuel, those guys are legit rock purty.
Speaker 3: He's got to prove himself.
Speaker 1: Because he's he's only done it for seven games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're two best players. I mean they miss games.
Speaker 2: McCaffrey and Samuel have not played a lot of games
Speaker 2: the last couple of years either, so it's you know,
Speaker 2: Kittle's already hurt and he's missed a lot of games
Speaker 2: last few years as well, So it's just kind of
Speaker 2: it's just risky. That's all just some risk.
Speaker 1: Then Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it, but anyway formidable for both of us,
Speaker 3: we or you said, fifty.
Speaker 2: Fifty get a loss, leaning for sure, loss and leaning.
Speaker 2: If there was like a fourth category'd be right there
Speaker 2: between fifty to fifty and formidable.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. Week eight at Green Bay,
Speaker 1: a twelve o'clock game on Fox. I am going to
Speaker 1: say formidable in this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am. I'm gonna say formidable in this one.
Speaker 3: I think the Packers are going to be way better
Speaker 3: than people expect. I think they are going to be
Speaker 3: the underdog in the NFC North, specifically that people are
Speaker 3: kind of overlooking because the big fancy quarterback is gone.
Speaker 3: But I believe the Packers will be way better.
Speaker 1: Than people expect this year. Yeah, unfortunately for US.
Speaker 2: Yep, I have it as a fifty to fifty, but
Speaker 2: I chalk that one up as loss. Yeah, they are
Speaker 2: the fin or like Vegas is saying they're going to
Speaker 2: finish third, right, they easily. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: any of the three teams that are at the top
Speaker 2: are head and shoulders above the other two. So they
Speaker 2: definitely could be or will be probably in the mix
Speaker 2: for the division title. It's just a matter of those
Speaker 2: kind of fifty to fifty games. Anytime you go to Lambeau,
Speaker 2: it's kind of scary. So I'm just marking that one
Speaker 2: as an l Jordan love. I don't think is terrible.
Speaker 2: Their defense is actually pretty good. We'll see they have
Speaker 2: two second year receivers and a rookie as their main
Speaker 2: three weapons and a rookie tight end. So that speaking
Speaker 2: of risk again, right, you have a new quarterback who's
Speaker 2: never been the starter, with two second year guys who
Speaker 2: missed a lot of time last year, and then a
Speaker 2: couple of rookies, So that part of it could unravel
Speaker 2: pretty quickly where they don't have any reliable receiving options
Speaker 2: but may not need them.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, good point.
Speaker 3: Week nine at Atlanta, a Sunday game at twelve pm
Speaker 3: on Fox. I will say favorable the Vikings rally and
Speaker 3: get a win at Atlanta, another close game.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a blowout by any means.
Speaker 2: Yep, agreed, agreed, And yeah, we mean that four game
Speaker 2: stretch we just talked about. I mean that's a tough
Speaker 2: stretch verse Chiefs at Bears, verse forty nine Ers Packers.
Speaker 2: I mean that's those four games are all formidable or
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. So then now it opens up for
Speaker 2: the Vikings at least in my schedule. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the stretch they got to take advantage of. So
Speaker 2: they got to set it off with a win against
Speaker 2: the Falcons totally.
Speaker 3: Week ten versus New Orleans on Fox at twelve PM game,
Speaker 3: I will say favorable again. So I got the Vikings
Speaker 3: winning two games in a row, going five and five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always mark one because I have favorable as well.
Speaker 2: I always mark one favorable game as loss just because
Speaker 2: you're not gonna win all the games you're supposed to.
Speaker 2: So this is the one I peg because I think
Speaker 2: Derek Carr and the Saints are going to be actually
Speaker 2: not too shabby, and I think they're going to win
Speaker 2: that division. I think they're going to need to win
Speaker 2: that division. So I have them as the Saints. I
Speaker 2: always seemed to in, you know, have we have interesting
Speaker 2: games the Saints. I think the Saints are able to
Speaker 2: get it done.
Speaker 3: So I have the Vikings at five and five through
Speaker 3: week ten. You have them, I think pretty.
Speaker 2: Close before five five and five.
Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, we're both five and five through week ten,
Speaker 3: and people, I promise you we did not look at
Speaker 3: each other's records before we started recording.
Speaker 2: When we have everything like three different games that are
Speaker 2: wins the losses.
Speaker 1: So it's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Week eleven at Denver, this is the same thing
Speaker 3: for me as it was for you versus New Orleans.
Speaker 3: This should be a favorable outcome. But because I think
Speaker 3: the Vikings will lose on the road at Denver, I
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a formidable game for the Vikings.
Speaker 3: They are going to be five and six after the
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't believe in the Broncos. I don't
Speaker 2: think Russell Wilson has it. I think their defense is fine,
Speaker 2: They're already missing some receivers. I think they have a
Speaker 2: running back coming off in an ACL injury. I just
Speaker 2: I think they're a year away from being interesting if
Speaker 2: they replaced Russell Wilson. I don't think the Champagne's has
Speaker 2: the magic touch. I don't think Russell Wilson's gonna suddenly
Speaker 2: look good. It's not an easy game in terms of
Speaker 2: it is at It's saying it's Sunday night football. Yep,
Speaker 2: So that's that's It's a little dicey, but I have it.
Speaker 2: I have it as a win.
Speaker 3: I think Sean Payton will rally the Denver Broncos. As
Speaker 3: much as Minnesota fans do not like Sean Payton, he
Speaker 3: is a really good head football coach.
Speaker 1: So I think that he.
Speaker 3: Will revolutionalize Russell Wilson and and make something whatever of them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so at home Monday Night football the following week, Week
Speaker 3: twelve versus Chicago seven to fifteen.
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of national games this year, Mike,
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 3: I will say favorable versus Chicago.
Speaker 1: So the Vikings will be six and six.
Speaker 2: Yep, favorable seven and six. Yeah, I think we have
Speaker 2: what we have won two, three, four, We have five
Speaker 2: to start with, five national TV games. That's a lot,
Speaker 2: not counting like the Chiefs one that would probably be
Speaker 2: mostly national TV on but yeah, that three o'clock game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Thursday night, two Monday nights and two Sunday nights. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you have a favorable outcome for the Bears game too.
Speaker 2: Yep, seven and five.
Speaker 1: I got him at I have them at six and six.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Week thirteen is they bye week. Lots of controversy in
Speaker 1: this week. Never know what's gonna happen, so we'll just
Speaker 1: skip it. I just don't even think we can predict
Speaker 1: that it's just too tough.
Speaker 3: Week fourteen, Sunday, December tenth, at Las Vegas, a three
Speaker 3: h five start on Fox.
Speaker 1: I will say fifty to fifty with a lean towards favorable.
Speaker 3: So I will say the Vikings get it done and
Speaker 3: are seven and six after Week fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yep, I have a win as well. Another team that
Speaker 2: I don't trust. I think another team that's gonna be
Speaker 2: flirting with the bottom five draft pick. I don't think
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo is the answer. They have Devanta Adams, who's
Speaker 2: getting old. I could see him requesting a trade into
Speaker 2: the year. Josh Jacobs on a one year contract, he's
Speaker 2: gonna be gone next year. I think the Raiders are
Speaker 2: teetering very closely to a little rebuild. So I think
Speaker 2: by week you know, fourteen this season, they're going to
Speaker 2: be out of it. So I think if you play
Speaker 2: them week one, it's a fifty to fifty. If you
Speaker 2: play them week fourteen, it's going to turn into a
Speaker 2: favorable game.
Speaker 1: So good point.
Speaker 3: Week fifteen at Cincinnati, he's last year determined. I tell
Speaker 3: you what time to be determined, Television to be determined.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's nothing but formidable for this one correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep. If the Vikings are decent, that'll be
Speaker 2: like a Sunday night game. But yeah, at Cincinnati, obviously
Speaker 2: another team that's one of the favorite teams to go
Speaker 2: to the AFC Championship go to the Super Bowl. Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow Jamar Chase, I mean, could they outdo them? Absolutely,
Speaker 2: it's possible, but yeah, it's definitely a formidable and you
Speaker 2: got to check it up as a last for now
Speaker 2: and hope for the best.
Speaker 3: My wife and I took vacation to Kentucky, to Newport,
Speaker 3: Kentucky area where you saw on Noah's Ar, We saw
Speaker 3: the Creation Museum, We walked around the Cincinnati Zoo because Newport,
Speaker 3: Kentucky and Cincinnati are like right on the border, so
Speaker 3: like you can literally walk across a bridge and be
Speaker 3: in Ohio and walk across the other side of the
Speaker 3: bridge and be in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: So I spoke with Joe Burrow a little bit.
Speaker 3: I asked him what he expects for the big Viking game.
Speaker 3: You know, since I'm in Cincinnati, why not talk to
Speaker 3: Joe a little bit? So I said, what do you
Speaker 3: expect for Week fifteen versus the Vikings? And He's like,
Speaker 3: Oh I want him. I want him bad. So I
Speaker 3: expect Joe Burrow to come out blazing versus the Vikings
Speaker 3: after our one on one conversation Week sixteen at home
Speaker 3: versus Detroit. Oh man, this is a tough one. Everyone
Speaker 3: expects the Detroit Lions to be better this year. A
Speaker 3: lot of people are hyping them Vegas. He's hyping them,
Speaker 3: And I will say, I'm going to say formidable on
Speaker 3: this one, even though it's a home game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say formidable. I am not buying the Lions hype.
Speaker 1: But I'm like ninety five percent buying the Lions hype
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 2: Yep, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: They're the technically they're the division favorite, just by a
Speaker 2: little bit over the Vikings and over the Packers. So
Speaker 2: I put as a fifty to fifty because it's home
Speaker 2: and I have it as a win. But I mean
Speaker 2: part of it is at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like I just I struggle with how good can it
Speaker 2: be with Jared Goff in charge? Now I know Jared
Speaker 2: Goff led the Rams to a Super Bowl, but that
Speaker 2: defense was like the Rams defense was unworldly, like they
Speaker 2: were insane, and the offense had Todd Gurley like he
Speaker 2: didn't have to do. Like, I don't think the Lions
Speaker 2: defense is there. I know the Lion's defense isn't there,
Speaker 2: and even the Lions offense isn't really there maybe.
Speaker 1: Hutchinson defensively, so they've got some weapons.
Speaker 2: On defense, they're not bad. No, absolutely, they're not like
Speaker 2: a rollover bad team. I mean, I just mean the
Speaker 2: Rams were like as it as you can get on
Speaker 2: defense basically, and then on offense they had multiple weapons
Speaker 2: that were just And that's the part that they're probably
Speaker 2: the closest. Right, they have Jamior Gibbs, who might be
Speaker 2: good enough to be that difference maker. I'm on rust
Speaker 2: and Brown seems legit. It's like, offensively, sure, they're probably
Speaker 2: close to what GoF had. Defensively, they're just still short
Speaker 2: of that mark. So I just I struggled to buy
Speaker 2: the hype fully to your point, So I have as
Speaker 2: the first one has a win the home game.
Speaker 3: I noticed that your wife is about to leave, and
Speaker 3: what are the odds your phone connects connects to her car.
Speaker 2: Well, so she's taking the truck today, so when she
Speaker 2: takes the car, it's automatic. Yeah, she takes the truck.
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see because I don't know if
Speaker 2: she's ever left with the truck while we're doing this.
Speaker 2: That's new because we have.
Speaker 1: A little bit. Let's risk it. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 2: Well, worst case, you just edit me, just come back.
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, well, let's see what happens. It's very
Speaker 3: exciting anyway, let's continue while we see what happens. Week
Speaker 3: seventeen versus Bay, I will say favorable. Another NBC game
Speaker 3: on Sunday night, I will say favorable for the Vikings
Speaker 3: in this one. So the Vikings are five hundred at
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I put uh fifty to fifty the win
Speaker 2: the home home game versus Packers. Got to have it,
Speaker 2: so I would have it. Says one game better, I
Speaker 2: believe nine and I lose track.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. One seven yeah, okay. And the
Speaker 3: last game of the season, Week eighteen, Sunday, January seventh,
Speaker 3: at Detroit time to but time to be determined and
Speaker 3: television to be determined as well. I will say the
Speaker 3: Vikings get swept by the Lions for the first time
Speaker 3: in forever this season and finish with a below five
Speaker 3: hundred record eight and nine.
Speaker 1: After going thirteen and four the prior season.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have it as a loss as well, so
Speaker 2: I was finishing at nine and eight, and this is
Speaker 2: just kind of something the way the Vikings to a
Speaker 2: couple of little quick points here. First of all, I
Speaker 2: think the division is going to be tight. I think
Speaker 2: why like ten and seven might win it. I think
Speaker 2: that could be the Lions record, that could be the
Speaker 2: Vikings record. I think that could be the Packers record.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I don't think any team is really is it possibly
Speaker 2: they win eleven twelve games?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Is it likely? I don't really think it's that likely. Secondly,
Speaker 2: like in my mind, I was like, all right, I
Speaker 2: think this might be your effort. I'm like ten to
Speaker 2: eleven wins, maybe even twelve. Let's see what the schedule
Speaker 2: looks like. And it is. There's just so many fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty games where I just kind of trickled down
Speaker 2: and ended up at nine to eight, just trying to
Speaker 2: play the odds, right, And now, you know, it's sometimes
Speaker 2: kind of boring just to be in the middle. But
Speaker 2: I think that is where they might be.
Speaker 1: Is right in that we lost them.
Speaker 3: I cannot hear Jacob, we are having technical difficulties, the
Speaker 3: truck has left the building.
Speaker 1: Well do I hear you? Oh you're back, We're back.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you heard. But basically the point is,
Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are capable of going a few
Speaker 2: wins above this, right, eleven twelve, But it's more the schedule,
Speaker 2: the likelihood, the more average, it's more likely they are
Speaker 2: nine or ten win team. Even an eight win team
Speaker 2: is definitely possible. So a lot of fifty to fifty games. Man,
Speaker 2: you can't mess around this year and lose any of
Speaker 2: those games you're not supposed to lose if you want
Speaker 2: to be a serious team. Because again, eleven and zero
Speaker 2: and one scare games last year, odds would just say
Speaker 2: that's gonna come down totally. Doesn't mean that we're gonna
Speaker 2: lose them, all right, But just even if we're, you know,
Speaker 2: six and three, that's a whole different ballgame, right versus
Speaker 2: being a leed to know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and.
Speaker 3: There's just an argument for people that want to say
Speaker 3: the Vikings are gonna be just as good as last year,
Speaker 3: because yeah, the offense should tech be better with Jordan Addison,
Speaker 3: you're bringing Brian Flores, so the defense is more in
Speaker 3: attack mode. But it doesn't work like that. Like, think
Speaker 3: about the Denver Broncos last year. They're thinking they're going
Speaker 3: to be a Super Bowl potential favorite here entering the
Speaker 3: season because they brought in one of the best quarterbacks
Speaker 3: in the NFL prior to joining the Denver Broncos, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: Or Russell Wilson joins the team, then he has his
Speaker 3: own office, then there's conflict, and they just completely just
Speaker 3: fell off the face of the earth. So even though
Speaker 3: the Vikings technically got better offensively and defensively, they're going
Speaker 3: to regress just because you kind of always find that
Speaker 3: middle ground. I do not think last year is duplicatable.
Speaker 2: If that's a word duplicatable, I don't know if duplicate,
Speaker 2: you can't duplicate last season. That is true that the
Speaker 2: thirteen and four I mean, that was as fun. I mean,
Speaker 2: we talked about it last year. That was as fun
Speaker 2: as an NFL season possibly could be. Every single game
Speaker 2: was drama, comebacks, fun, It was phenomenal. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: the one thing that the season should be entertaining because
Speaker 2: we have a good offense and we're probably still gonna
Speaker 2: have a bad defense. So we're gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: closer with those bad teams than we want to be,
Speaker 2: but we're also gonna be able to keep up with
Speaker 2: some of those really good teams and have kind of
Speaker 2: those those duels, if you will. So, yeah, regardless of
Speaker 2: what are you eating?
Speaker 1: What are you eating right now?
Speaker 2: A little oatmeal?
Speaker 1: Well, oatmeal this morning? You put a little milk and
Speaker 1: your oatmeal. I don't Oh is that a blow brown
Speaker 1: sugar oatmeal?
Speaker 2: Apple cinnamon?
Speaker 1: Oh, that sounds good too.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I might be lactose and tolerant. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna try going on a a little lactose free
Speaker 2: diet for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Where did this come from?
Speaker 2: Just you know, lost some weight and it's something connected
Speaker 2: to the diet, So trying to figure out what it
Speaker 2: could be.
Speaker 1: M interesting.
Speaker 2: Had a mcflury last night? Didn't go very well? So
Speaker 2: you know what mcflurry?
Speaker 1: Oh, mcflurry? Yeah, what kind of mcflurry did you have?
Speaker 2: Holly thing's front of me. I like the Eminem mcflurry.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, that's the best one.
Speaker 2: That's what I said. But she's like that, what's the point.
Speaker 2: It's just like Eminem's and ice cream and then they
Speaker 2: just get really like rock.
Speaker 1: Hard and they heard that is the point. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is the point.
Speaker 2: She could and to be fair, she wants the Oreo one.
Speaker 2: Ore Ones are great. Nothing against the Oreo mcflury or
Speaker 2: Oreo Blizzard or whatever. Oreo is always a home run.
Speaker 2: But I'm just kind of I'm just kind of an
Speaker 2: eminem guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got nothing wrong, but I love I'm a
Speaker 1: big eminem guy too. That's the best one.
Speaker 3: The only thing that could potentially be better than the
Speaker 3: eminem micflury is if you go to Dairy Queen and
Speaker 3: get Little Reese's pieces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Reese is always the home run for me
Speaker 2: personally chocolate and peanut butter guy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 3: So anyway, here's a prediction for you, just a random
Speaker 3: Vikings prediction. I hate to say this. Actually I don't
Speaker 3: hate to say this at all. The Green Bay Packers
Speaker 3: will have a better record than the Minnesota Vikings this season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's my prediction.
Speaker 2: I don't buy the Packers very much, but part of
Speaker 2: their defense.
Speaker 3: I don't really buy them that much either, But I
Speaker 3: have the Vikings at eight and.
Speaker 2: Nine, right, so right, it's not hard for the Packers
Speaker 2: to go nine and eight. Yeah, absolutely, I get that.
Speaker 3: So any other random Viking predictions you have d Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousin's MVP, Justin Jefferson highest paid wide receiver in the
Speaker 3: history of football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll that'll get done at some point. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of anybody. Oh the one thing that I
Speaker 2: think that not a lot of people are unnecessarily, I
Speaker 2: don't think Madison's going to be like a three down back,
Speaker 2: oh totally. And that's more fantasy, I guess, specific because
Speaker 2: like people are trying to figure out if he's like
Speaker 2: gonna replace Dalvin Cook, shoul they draft him as high
Speaker 2: or whatever. I think it's we're gonna see a lot
Speaker 2: of Tye Chandler more than people think. So that's one
Speaker 2: that I feel like a lot of people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: Madison's just gonna fill right in, and I like, well,
Speaker 2: he will, But I think Chandler's gonna be in the
Speaker 2: next a lot more than anything.
Speaker 1: Totally. I think ty Chandler is way more explosive than
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison.
Speaker 2: Right, And I think as the year goes on, I
Speaker 2: could see it kind of flipping a little bit where right,
Speaker 2: it's truly like a fifty to fifty or something like that.
Speaker 2: You know, Madison will get the first crack at it,
Speaker 2: but I think eventually Chandler might. You might not keep
Speaker 2: him off the field.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So let's dive into Super Bowl predictions. This is a
Speaker 3: tough one for me because when I'm looking around the league,
Speaker 3: it's hard not to go to recent teams that made it,
Speaker 3: like the Eagles, like the Bengals, like the Chiefs because
Speaker 3: they got the quarterback and their team should be just
Speaker 3: as dominant, if not more dominant. But the likelihood that
Speaker 3: the same teams make it back to the Super.
Speaker 1: Bowl mm hmm, it's tough.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So who's going to be that team?
Speaker 2: Let's think about this. But Vegas odds wise, so in
Speaker 2: the NFC, right, the top three odds are Philly, forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers, Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Do you really like?
Speaker 2: Do you really like it right exactly? Do you like
Speaker 2: the Cowboys or the forty nine ers a lot?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think they're that level of team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: both perfectly. You know they're good teams obviously, duh, Right,
Speaker 2: they're in the mix. I get it. But if you're
Speaker 2: trying to pick, like an NFC champion as much as
Speaker 2: boring as it is right, the Eagles are the like
Speaker 2: the safest pick you could possibly have as an NFC champion. Again,
Speaker 2: I mean, they added defense, which was already good. Their
Speaker 2: offense should be. They didn't lose anything besides the running back.
Speaker 2: But they have four co starters. I saw their depth
Speaker 2: chart says so they got four. But honestly though, like
Speaker 2: for their offense, they don't need a stud, right, they
Speaker 2: just need guys that are healthy.
Speaker 3: And they have stud wide receivers Davonte Smith, AJ Brown.
Speaker 3: They've got guys around Hertz.
Speaker 2: And Goddard is perfectly good as a tight end as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't see if you're again playing if
Speaker 2: you're not trying to be different for the sake of
Speaker 2: being different. The Eagles are like the easiest NFC pick. Obviously,
Speaker 2: could they lose, of course they could lose, right, somebody
Speaker 2: could sneak in, and but I just don't know who
Speaker 2: because it's not coming from the NFC North. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not Vikings, Packers, Lions aren't making the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: more than you know you wouldn't plan on it again, Cowboys,
Speaker 2: it's not anyone from the NFC South. Right, you're not
Speaker 2: taking the Falcon Saints.
Speaker 1: What about the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2: It's not the Cardinals. M My point is basically, the
Speaker 2: NFC is pretty weak. NFC North is going to be down,
Speaker 2: NFC South is going to be terrible, and then the
Speaker 2: NFC West has two teams that are going to be tanking,
Speaker 2: and the Rams and the Cardinals more likely, and then
Speaker 2: the NFC East has you know, a couple of okay teams.
Speaker 2: Giants are okay, Washington might be a little better. But again,
Speaker 2: it comes down to who else is there really, and
Speaker 2: I don't see anyone that's my serious contender.
Speaker 3: So it's really too tough that I don't have the
Speaker 3: Vikings like thirteen and four, because if there was gonna
Speaker 3: be a year that they make the Super Bowl, they've
Speaker 3: really only got one team to get past in the NFC,
Speaker 3: and that's the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some obviously there's a few other decent team,
Speaker 2: but yeah, your first run, I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, forty nine ers to theorytically.
Speaker 2: Solid right in the Cowboys whatever, And you know Giants,
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we lost to them last year. Like
Speaker 2: they're not they're not horrible, but it's just there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of depth in this conference. So yeah, if
Speaker 2: there's a year to be good, kind of like the
Speaker 2: golfer said last year, an opportunity to really make some noise,
Speaker 2: you know, for the Vikings, it would be this year,
Speaker 2: and they certainly still could. They certainly still could. But
Speaker 2: I just have to go Chock and go Eagles, just
Speaker 2: because no one else matches the talent that the Eagles
Speaker 2: have even close really.
Speaker 3: And then so I'm gonna go with with the same prediction.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the Cowboys schedule real quick to
Speaker 3: see if there's any possibilities of them making it to
Speaker 3: the super Bowl during the regular season, just like seeing
Speaker 3: who they got. But it looks like they have a
Speaker 3: tough regular season schedule. So I'm not gonna go with
Speaker 3: the Cowboys either. I'm gonna go with Chalk Eagles AFC.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna mix it up. That's a little disier.
Speaker 3: You got the Buffalo Bills who are hungry, the Jets
Speaker 3: who have Aaron Rodgers, the Cincinnati Bengals with Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, who a lot of people think will
Speaker 3: rise this season, Baltimore Ravens with Lamar and Jackson.
Speaker 2: You could probably throw the Jaguars in there as somebody.
Speaker 1: Who could there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've shown some ability.
Speaker 1: And then the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: So while you just stole a little bit of my
Speaker 3: thunder because my pick was going to be the Jacksonville
Speaker 3: Jaguars Doug Peterson. Seriously, I was gonna pick the Jacksonville
Speaker 3: Jaguars to come out of the AFC with Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: as their head coach versus this former team, the philadelph
Speaker 3: the Eagles. You can already see the Super Bowl headlines
Speaker 3: developing year. So I'm gonna go Eagles versus Jaguars and
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and the Eagles win it with Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2: Yep, I got the Eagles AFC. I mean there's, like
Speaker 2: I said, Like I said, there's a lot of different
Speaker 2: directions you could go and it would be reasonable.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The Browns some people have you know again, the Jets
Speaker 2: are kind of a rising you know, kid. I mean
Speaker 2: their defense is phenomenal. Aaron Rodgers can he just be decent?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I like the Ravens this year, you know, I thought
Speaker 2: about them. I do like the Chargers for a comeback
Speaker 2: here justin Herbert was pretty bad last year. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's gonna happen again. I think Justin Herbert is
Speaker 2: gonna make them be a pretty good team. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with the Jets, as much as it stinks.
Speaker 2: I think that defense is legit. The Jets offense should
Speaker 2: be legit. They have two running backs. They have a
Speaker 2: receiver hopefully they can find well, I don't hope for
Speaker 2: but hopefully for them. Right they need another receiver kind
Speaker 2: of step up. They have Aaron Rodgers who should be decent.
Speaker 2: We'll go Jets, but I don't think they're a match
Speaker 2: for the Eagles. I think the Eagles are the most
Speaker 2: consistent and best team in the league, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have them get back and you know, take one from
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Yet again, those.
Speaker 1: Are good predictions. I like it. I like Jets. Eagles
Speaker 1: is a good super Bowl too, that's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be high rated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rogers hurts New York, big New York team. And
Speaker 3: when's the last time a New York team made the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. It's been a long time. Well, I guess
Speaker 3: the Giants, I mean I guess it has been that long.
Speaker 3: They beat the Patriots twice. Yeah, that's true. You Know's
Speaker 3: what's crazy is that when you say, like, you can
Speaker 3: relate to this because you're a teacher of middle school students, yea,
Speaker 3: When you walk up to them and say, man, don't
Speaker 3: you remember the two thousand and nine season with Brett
Speaker 3: Favre And then they turn back to you and say,
Speaker 3: I wasn't even born yet.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel really old.
Speaker 2: The students I have this year were born my senior
Speaker 2: year of high school.
Speaker 3: It's like they have no idea that two thousand and
Speaker 3: nine season was even like and that was like what
Speaker 3: fourteen years ago?
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I know.
Speaker 2: You got to catch yourself because you don't want to
Speaker 2: be like, you know, our parents where it's like because
Speaker 2: obviously think about when we were kids, right, our parents
Speaker 2: would say things like the seventies was so insane. How
Speaker 2: could you not say fran Tarkton is the best quarterback
Speaker 2: of all time?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yeah, I'm exaggerating, but you know stuff like that,
Speaker 2: right they you know, and now for the Twins, it
Speaker 2: was actually true because they actually at least they won
Speaker 2: two World Series. But right, they have stories like that,
Speaker 2: and then we would roll their eyes, you know, roll
Speaker 2: our eyes at it like, who cares? That was so
Speaker 2: long ago. So I always try to check myself when
Speaker 2: I don't talk about the past too much, because again,
Speaker 2: like you said, they don't relate at all, and then
Speaker 2: they don't care, and then it's like, who's that old
Speaker 2: guy talking about things from ancient times when it was
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, let's hear it. Yeah, let's hear the
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert quote that you mentioned after.
Speaker 2: I just like picking Rudy Gobert too. It's so easy.
Speaker 2: France goes zero to two and fieba right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then that second game and that eliminates them from
Speaker 2: like the play like the bracket or whatever, because it
Speaker 2: was like the round robin games or however that works,
Speaker 2: and they lost. He had nine points seven rebounds, and
Speaker 2: talking about the lost, Rudy Gobert said, I gave it
Speaker 2: my all.
Speaker 1: Hey maybe he did. Maybe the rebounds just wearing bounce
Speaker 1: into him. You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, even even though you're seven to one, seven two,
Speaker 3: they shouldn't necessarily have to bounce to you because you're
Speaker 3: so long.
Speaker 1: The stifle tower is the nickname.
Speaker 3: You should be able to snag some rebounds that aren't
Speaker 3: necessarily in your vicinity.
Speaker 1: But hey, that's a good I like that.
Speaker 2: It just makes for that because again, like his all,
Speaker 2: I mean, the sad reality is his all is nine
Speaker 2: points and seven rebounds, and that's just I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's not the end of the world. That's just funny
Speaker 2: that that's his peak, right, that's what we're really and
Speaker 2: you can get yes, you can ask more rebounds, of course,
Speaker 2: but just like at the end of the day, you're
Speaker 2: getting a guy who can't really score and he just
Speaker 2: gets a handful of rebounds and is good on defense,
Speaker 2: and you know, we can't help France beat some bum
Speaker 2: teams in the FIBA Championships.
Speaker 1: So that's what he is.
Speaker 3: Here's my quote comes from Chris Jones from the Kansas
Speaker 3: City Chiefs. It's more so funny than stupid.
Speaker 1: He says. Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone's got one, and
Speaker 1: they all stink. I'm just asking for a raise.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, I've said that one before. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Always funny.
Speaker 1: That's the first time I've seen that, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's always a good one. Yeah, because yeah,
Speaker 2: excuses no one. We've said that in football before. Because
Speaker 2: no one likes excuses.
Speaker 1: Right, no excuses. Play like a champion.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: Thank you Jacob for coming on the podcast. Thanking to
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Speaker 3: specifically the poop segments.
Speaker 2: Next week we'll have like a real we'll do a
Speaker 2: real read in the middle of it. How about that,
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Shelby make sure we got the nice
Speaker 2: points that we needed to bring up instead of me
Speaker 2: winging it talking about a divorced old lady who loves
Speaker 2: her pictures. You know, we'll make sure it's a little more.
Speaker 2: We hit the copy, we'll get the copy.
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