WEBVTT - Be careful! What is your identity?

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<v Speaker 1>Every day that goes by, you're gonna feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more content without her, and you're gonnaeel a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more content with who you are. What if she

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<v Speaker 1>did come back, and what if you continue to worship

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<v Speaker 1>her and glorify her, and what if what if you

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<v Speaker 1>lost her to a car accident? Then you're you're on

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<v Speaker 1>suicide watch at that point, because she is your identity.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Guys, Welcome to the podcast this episode one

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<v Speaker 1>O two. This is gonna be a good one. Good

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<v Speaker 1>buddy of mine. First time guest on here. Daniel Gonzalez,

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<v Speaker 1>a Michigan boy, finally got Michigan represented on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people from Michigan listening to this podcast. Well, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>go State, Go Green, go White. That's that's all my

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<v Speaker 1>Ganzala side there, but my mama's sides in Texas. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in Texas a long time, so I don't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm from Mission. I hear you. Well, yeah, Lansing, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Just get that cleared up. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big blue here, No, it's not. It's not. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do represent the Wolverines, I'm so sorry. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pray for you. We can't all be perfect. So on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast we Daniel, we answer questions, and you're a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect guy for it. I feel very blessed that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in my life because if I need some advice, if

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk through something in long form, you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guys on a call. The way we

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<v Speaker 1>set up this podcast, it's like we're sitting around a

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<v Speaker 1>campfire or we're driving in a truck and it's me

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<v Speaker 1>and you and one other person and they say, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>could I ask you something something that's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. It could be about life. Could be

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<v Speaker 1>about music. What you're a musician too. You're a pastor

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<v Speaker 1>and a musician, so that works out great. Could be

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<v Speaker 1>about a relationship or a job. It really could be

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<v Speaker 1>about anything. You just email Granger Smith Podcast at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot calm. Then I put these together and I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>grab them in no particular order and no particular subject,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll walk through it as if we're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the cab of a truck on a road trip

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<v Speaker 1>like me and you have been on the floor, just

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<v Speaker 1>walking through it, and and hey, we're not always right,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't have notes if you're watching on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have notes in front of us. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to walk through it as if we're living

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<v Speaker 1>it with you, and we're gonna give you the best,

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<v Speaker 1>the best knowledge that we know of at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, that's that's the beauty of this podcast. We

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<v Speaker 1>definitely could be wrong. Love it, Love it. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to dig in a little bit here, And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is no particular order, so I'm gonna start at

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<v Speaker 1>the top if you're ready to If you're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>dig into this, I'm all in. Let's go. This one says.

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<v Speaker 1>The subject says, I need advice. Good. It says, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for this opportunity. I'm grateful for you

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<v Speaker 1>and Amber, and I found out about you thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>a friend who kept tagging me on Parker's TikTok videos.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I just started following kid today because I

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<v Speaker 1>watched one of your podcasts. Well, y'all talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>good good, good, love it. It says, So in this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm currently living with my parents because that's how things

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<v Speaker 1>go in Honduras. Shout out to Honduras, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>having a lot of problem They've been having a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of problems with their marriage. My dad does not respect

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. He raises his voice, always says she is

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<v Speaker 1>against him on a problem they have in the ministry

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<v Speaker 1>they work in, because my dad has said some bad

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about his leaders. The thing is, the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>affecting me way too much with my mom. Her hair

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<v Speaker 1>is falling out, she doesn't have much energy anymore. She's

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<v Speaker 1>always down to my sister and I try to cheer up,

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<v Speaker 1>but that only helps for a while. My mom still

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<v Speaker 1>loves my dad. I really question that my dad loves her.

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked about them getting a divorce, but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing my mom wants to do. I've prayed earnestly

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<v Speaker 1>so the Lord will give healing to their marriage. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and just give me wisdom on what to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm not doing enough, especially because of

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<v Speaker 1>our economic situation is also affecting this whole problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a job because here in Honduras it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get one if you're if you haven't graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from college. Help. I want to do more. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to help. I don't know what to do anymore. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I stressing too much about it? What should I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Granger, Ruth well, so shout out to Honduras

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and and thank you, thank you Ruth for for

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<v Speaker 1>trusting us with something so heavy on your heart. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say I thank you. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>emailed the right podcast we got. We got Pastor Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. If I had anything like this going

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<v Speaker 1>on in my life, I would I will call you,

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<v Speaker 1>I will call you. So let's kind of let's break

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<v Speaker 1>this down a little bit. Yeah, because there's a lot there.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dad has been it's been tough lately. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>tough on Mom. Mom still loves him. Divorce is not

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<v Speaker 1>part of the conversation at all. Mom is faithful, Mom

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<v Speaker 1>is holding holding true to this. It sounds like they're

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<v Speaker 1>in ministry of some sort in Honduras. And and the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter is wanting to wanting to help, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel that on her heart. She wants to. She wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to help mom and dad. She wants

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<v Speaker 1>to reconcile the marriage. And there's a financial stress to this.

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<v Speaker 1>So where do we where do we start with Ruth.

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<v Speaker 1>She's praying a lot about it, yeah, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>she's seeking help, She's seeking counsel, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's important, an important part of of really what

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible tells us student instructs us to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>really in everyday life is we want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we're finding the right counsel, the right right people

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<v Speaker 1>to speak into it. And obviously we don't know. You've

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<v Speaker 1>given us a kind of a good framework, good picture.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like if I remember she said he's in

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<v Speaker 1>ministry as well, Yeah, presume maybe it's a church or

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of a ministry related nonprofit or something of

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<v Speaker 1>that nature, which is an even bigger deal, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, when it goes to situations like this,

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<v Speaker 1>as it relates to the family and it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>the position of the father and the role of the

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<v Speaker 1>father in the family, there's a lot of weight that

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<v Speaker 1>falls on dad. There's a lot of weight that falls there,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of responsibility that falls there. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want people to shy away from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does the weight of a marriage all fall on a

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<v Speaker 1>husband or the weight of a family all fall on

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<v Speaker 1>a father. No, but certainly a tremendous amount of it does,

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<v Speaker 1>because as we see even in statistics, whatever directions the

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<v Speaker 1>father goes. If the father goes to church, then the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood increases incredible. Yeah, something crazy like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think what ends up happening is sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>get bogged down, especially if you're working in ministry, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get so involved doing the work of the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>that you really kind of lose sight of your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with the Lord, and you're doing things for God instead

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<v Speaker 1>of doing things with God. And that can sometimes sit

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<v Speaker 1>you on a course to be in this place where

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<v Speaker 1>men who I am now has changed not for the better,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think we have to start with that reality.

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<v Speaker 1>My father, the father I knew, was a pastor and

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<v Speaker 1>an evangelist and missionary. I was born fifteen years as

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<v Speaker 1>late child, so I grew up with that dad. Before that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were actually just talking about this, me and Granger

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<v Speaker 1>not too long ago. My dad was a heroin attic

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<v Speaker 1>and a drug pusher. He was a very hurtful human being,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was that way with my mom. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, who sought the Lord, who followed the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>continued to stay in that relationship and she just felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeking God. I'm going to go passionately after God

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to believe that my testimony is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have an effect on Robert, who is my father. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it eventually did. In fact, my dad thought that she

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<v Speaker 1>was seeing a guy at church because she would go

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<v Speaker 1>to church and come home so full of joy that

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<v Speaker 1>he decided, Hey, I'm going to go over there and

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<v Speaker 1>find out who it is that you're seeing, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I'm gonna do some terrible things to him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, breathe out. So she thought he thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was cheating. That's exactly right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 1>some guy there that was making her happy, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>coming over and so he begins to there was right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was Jesus, And so she goes He ends up

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<v Speaker 1>going to church, doesn't find the guy, goes back again,

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<v Speaker 1>goes back again, and about the fourth or fifth time,

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<v Speaker 1>God just collides with him and he's listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>message and he's realizing the terrible state that he is in.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes up to the front of the church and

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<v Speaker 1>he just begins to lay just face down on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and just is weeping and sobbing, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>having a God moment where he was just really begging

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<v Speaker 1>forgiveness from God and so in that he became radically saved,

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<v Speaker 1>kicked the drugs, kicked all of that, like he was

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<v Speaker 1>a different person. However, despite that, there was still withdrawal

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to go through. There was still a

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<v Speaker 1>repair that had to happen in the family. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love how God constitutes and utilizes these words with ree.

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<v Speaker 1>He resurrects, you know, we repent. He restores things, like

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<v Speaker 1>he takes what is and he transforms it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that that happens through a lot of different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>One is there has to be a reality of God.

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<v Speaker 1>And the best way for your father to see that

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<v Speaker 1>where he might have lost sight of that, is for

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<v Speaker 1>you to be that testimony in his life, to be

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<v Speaker 1>an encouragement as well to your mom and just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a love that's greater than all all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Our God can do exceedingly abundantly above all that we

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<v Speaker 1>could ever ask. Imagine. I'm going to probably quote a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of scripture references in this podcast, and then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to confront it. And I think that's the challenging

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<v Speaker 1>part is because there is a way to confront and love.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say that your father not only does

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<v Speaker 1>he need to be prayed for. Not only do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a good example of Christ to him,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a daughter, you can confront your father and

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<v Speaker 1>you can sit down and say there's a big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a man who's working in ministry, you're held

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<v Speaker 1>to a high standard, like the Bible actually tells us

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<v Speaker 1>that your home is supposed to be in order for

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<v Speaker 1>you to be engaging in this. So we utilize that

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to be able to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I want you to see what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>to our family. All of that's okay, all right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the result of that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. At the end of the day. Not everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we do that is right seems to turn out

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we would like for it to. But

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<v Speaker 1>at least at the very end of the day, we

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<v Speaker 1>can say, I know I did right by God, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I did right by my family, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about it, and hopefully that can help kind

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<v Speaker 1>of maybe shake him up, maybe get a realignment going.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got to walk through journey of restoring

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding trust. Going through that journey with the family. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is so important, But my heart goes out

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<v Speaker 1>to you, because I know that has to be so

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<v Speaker 1>difficult dealing with what you're dealing with, to see your

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<v Speaker 1>family in that kind of a situation. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>know that God is faithful, so good, that's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, Ruth, I think we believe. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>you do too. We believe that God is this restore,

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<v Speaker 1>this redeemer, this author of life. And it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>make that number two and to make number one. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your Okay, I get it? But what could I do now?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I need to do to restore the situation?

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<v Speaker 1>And I would encourage you to flip flop that, not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you are already, but flip flop where you

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<v Speaker 1>believe and you trust that God is building this story

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<v Speaker 1>and you might not even see it in your father's lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not see the restoration that you want, the

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<v Speaker 1>storybook restoration, the Cinderella story. You might not see that unfold.

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<v Speaker 1>But regardless, God is working in you and he's working

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<v Speaker 1>with this story in some way. And for probably Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>for your siblings, they might not have seen what you

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<v Speaker 1>saw with your dad, the restoration, and we led completely

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<v Speaker 1>different pasts, completely different lives now God has reconciled all

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<v Speaker 1>that He's redeemed, all that everybody saved, everybody serving the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>But we went different directions. And in fact, when I

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<v Speaker 1>would hear stories about my father in that context, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out of your mind, like this doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But that also shows the power of how God can

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<v Speaker 1>change somebody. And so I think that's important for us

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<v Speaker 1>to hold on to, is that we put God first,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do right by God, we do right by

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<v Speaker 1>his word and how He calls us to respond to

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<v Speaker 1>those particular situations. And the reality is, Ruth, your father

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing it, but that's not what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>this context, and that's unfortunate. You know, both of us,

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<v Speaker 1>as fathers, our hearts would just be broken if our kids,

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<v Speaker 1>if there was some kind of a gap or a

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<v Speaker 1>severing of our relationship with our kids, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>would do whatever it takes. And I do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just get distracted by the wrong things, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it takes bravery on your part, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you probably have even done it to a certain degree,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case, being able to say, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to sit down, we need to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a riff that's happening. We know that it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't right. We know that we all want to honor God.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just have that conversation and let's see where

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. That could start something incredibly healing for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good. And maybe that comes in the form

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<v Speaker 1>ofquestions to death too, Like Dad, do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're honoring mom the way that you the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you should be? And ask him the questions and let him.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be defensive at first, but let him walk

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<v Speaker 1>through you. More than likely, yeah, but let him walk

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<v Speaker 1>through those answers to you, knowing that he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to prove himself right and he knows.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I also wanted to say, Ruth that your

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<v Speaker 1>last little paragraph help me. I want to do more.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to help. I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're kind of reflecting, if you read through the songs,

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<v Speaker 1>you're reflecting a very psalmist mentality, and that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing. But you don't have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>me that on you know the question here of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your prayer. God help me. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. I feel lost. What should I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Just bring make that just part of your of your

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<v Speaker 1>daily prayer, and remember that God that that restoration is

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<v Speaker 1>is in his hands. The power of the Gospel will

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<v Speaker 1>affect your dad in some way. Like I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>might not see it, but it might be reflecting you.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be Daniel sitting here for the next generation

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<v Speaker 1>repeating this kind of story of what you saw and

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<v Speaker 1>what you learned. But I think you're in a good place, Ruth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're asking the right questions. I think your

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<v Speaker 1>heart's in the right place. And I think what's really

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<v Speaker 1>important about this is that your mom is staying faithful.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not using divorce as an option right, and she

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<v Speaker 1>will be rewarded for that. I'd really believe it, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm dan. I'm sorry for hitting you with the

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<v Speaker 1>first question. Oh my goodness, I should have been more.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have been better about that. Let me get

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<v Speaker 1>you something about this subject, says learning to play guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>This has got to be easier. Oh goodness, says Hey Granger.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently purchased a guitar and I love it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to teach myself by watching YouTube videos. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way to learn. I'm considering guitar lessons. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want your opinion. Have you ever considered using or

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<v Speaker 1>teaching instructional videos on guitar? Thank you for what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is coming from Max in North Carolina. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing because when I learned guitar, there wasn't YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>But I personally think if I was learning today, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a really good tool. Oh. Absolutely, it's free. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing what you can learn. You literally have the

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<v Speaker 1>best teachers in the world all sharing their stuff for free.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day when I was learning, nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>share anything with you, right like you would. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I started off on piano. We would go to churches

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<v Speaker 1>and I would try to look and see what the

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<v Speaker 1>guy was doing and he would cover. So why they

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I don't because they didn't want me to

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<v Speaker 1>steal there. I'm like, hey, at the church down the street.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever, that's how it has man, Max. I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would say yes. I would say yes to your question.

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<v Speaker 1>On YouTube, they're going to personal guitar lessons. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing. But I would I would run

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<v Speaker 1>with this YouTube thing for about a year and just

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<v Speaker 1>get some of the basics, get some basic chord progressions,

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<v Speaker 1>learn your you know the so all the you know

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<v Speaker 1>five or six seven chords that will get you through

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite songs. Learn your sales, learn your scales. YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>will will be great for all of that. Take You

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<v Speaker 1>might want to take your guitar to a local music

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<v Speaker 1>music shop and just ask the guys if they could

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<v Speaker 1>set it up for you. Make sure the action is

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<v Speaker 1>good on it, meaning you don't want to you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to run your your hands and your fingers ragged

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<v Speaker 1>on a cheap guitar. Not saying that yours is cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that, just saying you might want to take

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<v Speaker 1>it just to go, hey, can you take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at this and they could get it set up where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just easier on your hands, which means you could

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<v Speaker 1>practice longer. But I'm happy for you, man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be It's gonna be a fun adventure. It might

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<v Speaker 1>just completely change your life too. Shout out to North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina man, thank you, thank you for the question. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna kick this over to you, Daniel. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna read some of these these subject lines here. We

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<v Speaker 1>got time for probably one more good question. We'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. Okay, we have a question for your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a generic we have I just got married and

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<v Speaker 1>I need help. I have quitting corporate job getting into music.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one that just says church with one that

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<v Speaker 1>says becoming a father. I have a feeling lost in

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<v Speaker 1>a fog. Please help me, my girlfriend broke up with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and grief. Does any of those any of those stand

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<v Speaker 1>out right at the well, why don't we hit Let's

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<v Speaker 1>hit the father? One carry on that that says, hey Granger.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Kurt from Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm a huge fan of your podcast and advice

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<v Speaker 1>that you've given to so many. I'm becoming a father

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<v Speaker 1>this December. We've been on a long journey through infertility

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<v Speaker 1>for the last four years and it took a huge

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<v Speaker 1>toll in our relationship. We were actively repairing this relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and have leaned heavily on our faith in God and

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Do you have any advice for us and

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<v Speaker 1>for me becoming a new father and how to be

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<v Speaker 1>the best leader in our household when this baby boy arrives?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Kurt? Wow? Well, first, yes, congratulations on that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is awesome. Yeah, this is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible ride and one of the most fulfilling times of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. But here's the thing is, oftentimes it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>start that way. So when us as guys, sometimes we're

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<v Speaker 1>not wired as well emotionally as you know our wives are,

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<v Speaker 1>and as moms are. You know, they've known that baby

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<v Speaker 1>for nine months before we have ever gotten to meet

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<v Speaker 1>that baby, and so their dynamic is a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>As a father, I think you have to set first

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<v Speaker 1>in your heart how you're going to raise this child.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, am I going to raise this child? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a follower of Christ, which I'm sure you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll talked about your faith in God. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're instilling biblical principles. You want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're taking time to spend with your baby.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about men is that we develop relationships based

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<v Speaker 1>on reciprocation, right, So that's like guys, are are you

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<v Speaker 1>know that we develop friendships based on reciprocation relationships, and

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<v Speaker 1>that with our child, Well, it's hard sometimes with an infant, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking a lot more than they given right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think what we have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>we have to make sure and understand that, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>I have right here in front of me is an investment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just a child's not just my child, not

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<v Speaker 1>just my baby. But what I'm doing here is when

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<v Speaker 1>i'm talking to them, and when i'm singing to them,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm spending time, I'm planting seeds inside of them

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to be watered over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>my life with my words, with my actions, and with time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then years later, I'm gonna see those things sprout.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang I'm gonna pause you right there. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say anything. I just want that to sink in

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. That's good. If you guys are listening,

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<v Speaker 1>just just stop that, just for a second. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new dad, that is so good. You're planning

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<v Speaker 1>seeds even when you're not getting that reciprocation back. That's

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<v Speaker 1>important because when you plan a seed in the garden,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get reciprocation back. You go out and water

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time, all the time, all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe even get frustrated. We've just started gardening a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, so we're learning this. But one

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<v Speaker 1>day you go out there and there's a sprout and man,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, we partied over that little sprout.

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<v Speaker 1>Still took a long time before it turned into fruit

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<v Speaker 1>or vegetation whatever, but that little sprout. And there's times

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<v Speaker 1>when you're kids you see that little sprout, that thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you've invested in them. Now response they reciprocate and

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<v Speaker 1>man changes everything, and so you want to take that

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<v Speaker 1>time to do that. And then I would also say

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<v Speaker 1>as far as your relationship with your wife, I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who have struggled with infertility and

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<v Speaker 1>been in that journey. Close close friends of mine who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thankful have been able to have children. And but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of pain. There's a lot of hurt

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of just comes out of us sometimes, and

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<v Speaker 1>a husband and wife, especially if you're a younger family,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't always know how to navigate that pain initially,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's difficult. I think you have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of grace for each other and then understanding that ay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hurting, and you're hurting in a different way than

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<v Speaker 1>I am, even though we're both despairing over these challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe we're angry and we're taking that out on

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<v Speaker 1>each other, taking it out on God or the world,

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case may be. I have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that what you're going through as a mom is different

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<v Speaker 1>than what I'm going through as a father, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't want to outdo one another. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we come to this place of completion.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it, because if I can understand your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective and you can understand my perspective, then we can

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<v Speaker 1>start that journey of healing between each other. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to have grace for one another, You got to have love.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I would say that the way to really

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<v Speaker 1>be able to heal that is to be extravagant in

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<v Speaker 1>your affection towards one another. We don't call it faking it.

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<v Speaker 1>We call it faithing it. And so could do it

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<v Speaker 1>until it becomes real in that context, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that your love for each other isn't real. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is sometimes you've got to motivate yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to do more, to invest more in that relationship. And

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<v Speaker 1>then over time, because here's something that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>realize too. It's not simply that over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives and over our how long have you been

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<v Speaker 1>married now, eleven years. Okay, so Celeste and I will

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<v Speaker 1>be eighteen years this fall. Over that course of the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen years, our love for each other hasn't just grown,

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<v Speaker 1>it's grown up. It's matured over the course of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we can say things a lot more bluntly to

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<v Speaker 1>each other not be hurt by each other because we've

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<v Speaker 1>grown up, we've matured. But when we're young, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that maturity yet. So everything I say that might

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<v Speaker 1>just be me trying to be real or authentic, might

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the other person because they're still growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>that maturity and that love. And so understand that give

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<v Speaker 1>it time, give it grace, be extravagant in your affection

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<v Speaker 1>towards one another, loving each other, spending time together. And

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that over the course of time, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>when that child also comes into the world. Man, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some things that are gonna heal there. Love it man.

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I love garden analogies, yes, life, And I think that

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>God has created the human life where it has these

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>perfect seasons. For instance, the nine month pregnancy gets you

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly seasoned ready for an infant. But then when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the infant stage, you have another challenge and another

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 1>season which lasts six or seven months, which gets them

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to the first they're sitting up and they're eating solid food. Okay,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>now you can deal with this, and you deal with

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that just long enough before they start walking about a year.

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And then when they're walking and you've finally got a chance,

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the child proved the house over the previous months, and

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>then you have a chance before they go into pre

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<v Speaker 1>k and so it's just it's perfectly lined up. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're worried about being a dad, just remember that

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen overnight. You don't just wake up and you

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<v Speaker 1>got a thirteen year old. You know, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect grace period and learning because you're going to learn

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>with them. The goal is just to be a little

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>bit ahead of them, right, that's right now. One thing

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about, kurt Is is your relationship.

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>You said it through the infertility, it took a huge toll,

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you said, huge toll on a relationship, and we're actively

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<v Speaker 1>repairing this. So I want you to and it's good

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you said you're leaning heavily on faith in each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to also encourage you to think about this,

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 1>think about that because of the infertility. A baby is

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>such a blessing. It's such an incredible thing anyway, but

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>then coming out of four years of infertility, it's even

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>more of a prize for you too. So I want you,

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to encourage you to not make that this

0:25:55.160 --> 0:26:01.680
<v Speaker 1>child your goal or your biggest prize. Make her that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell her that and that while she's pregnant, this

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is a good time to tell her. Just say, babe,

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy and we're so grateful, and we praise

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>God for this child. But I want to let you

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<v Speaker 1>know that even if we didn't have this child, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy with you. I love you, and you are what

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>I need on this earth right now. And just just

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>start planning those seats to her and honoring her and

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<v Speaker 1>giving her so much of this grace and glory that

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to. You don't want the baby

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<v Speaker 1>to become the thing, because then that that relationship problem

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>could get bigger and bigger as you start dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>adolescence with this kid. Man. That is so good and

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>so right on, because you, as a husband and wife,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you're the family. You didn't start your family when you

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>started having kids. Y'all are the family and I wonder

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>grangeer too, and maybe what she is dealing with on

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<v Speaker 1>her side of the pain. Maybe there's questions sometimes with infertility,

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 1>whether it's on the on the guy's or the guy's

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>fault or not fault, but side of the argument that

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they think it's their fault, and so there's the pain

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>that's associated with that. It's like, why can't we just

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>have children like every everyone else? And so I imagine

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 1>out of that that hurt too, And then you're lumping

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>on you know, whether it's accusations or just hurt for

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>words or maybe not. Maybe they're just flippant words and

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you didn't realize they heard, and now you're having to rebuild, Like, like,

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>my heart goes out to that because I can't imagine that.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>But but man, to what you're saying when you're now

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>lavishing on though, it's like, hey, look, our family isn't

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>about this child, because reality is one day they're gonna

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>grow up, they're gonna move out there, and then it's

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>us again. It is, so it's got to be about us,

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's got to be about you know, our

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>foundation isn't God, but God's blessing this and so man,

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you talk about that gual being head over heels over

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you to let her know how she's first placed there

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>in your life, and that's that's amazing. Yell. Let's take

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>a break. We'll be right back, all right. Thanks for

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>watching the Granger Smith podcast. Guys. If you want to

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>find me on tour, it's super easy. Go to Grangersmith

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Right there on the homepage, scroll down just

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a touch and there's all the tour dates. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to look at those tour dates. You could do

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<v Speaker 1>two things right there off the homepage buy tickets tab

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<v Speaker 1>or VIP tab. The vip allows you to actually meet me.

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.719
<v Speaker 1>It gives you VIP tickets and a meet and greet

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>where you can come before the show. We could hang out,

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>take pictures, sign anything that you want, and you could

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>also find that on the homepage under meat Granger. So

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you can do it through the tour site, the tour page,

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>or on the Meet Granger tab. We make it super easy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't go to any of these tour dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing you could do is you could find me

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<v Speaker 1>on cameo dot com. You can go to the website

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<v Speaker 1>or right off the app, the Cameo app. That's c

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>am EO look up Granger Smith. In that way, I

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>could easily get you a video message to whoever you want.

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>For whatever you want, could be birthday, congratulations on a

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>wedding or a graduation, a pick me up, or a

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>shout out of any kind. I will send you a

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<v Speaker 1>video recording of me giving you a personalized message to

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<v Speaker 1>however you want, for whoever you want. I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you guys for supporting Yegi Apparel Fall launch,

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>which we launched last Friday, just a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping by the time that you see this, by

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the time you listen to this podcast, there's still some

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<v Speaker 1>items that you want. This is most proud I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>been about an apparel launch from yee I'll say it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. We have jackets and coats and flannels, beanies

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time ever to get you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are in the world for your winter apparel.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for trusting us with this brand, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for trusting yege Apparel, and thank you for trusting us

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>with country music. And of course thanks for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. So, Daniel, what is your title at Celebration

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgetown. Celebration Church Georgetown, Texas. You were a pastor there, Yeah,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive pastor. We have a team called the

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Directional Leadership Team. We're responsible for making decisions about the

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>direction of the church where we're going next. And so

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>my area really where I I don't want to say oversee,

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of my stewardship. Let's put it in

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that way. Is our language, is our looks, It's what

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you experience in and from the church. And we're venturing

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:40.479
<v Speaker 1>now into some new arenas where we're in developing a

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast you know, which will be you know, dealing with

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>theological questions things in relation to the church. Have guessed

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>things of that nature as well. But we're also creating

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>more music and things to kind of get outside of

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the four walls to be able to minister in a

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<v Speaker 1>timeless way, which I think you do so great in

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>your music in this like, people are going to be

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>listening to these things for years down the line, yeah,

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and they'll have that impact. And so we're really for

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>us as a church. Even though we are a church

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of notable size in this area of central Texas, we

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>still have yet to really venture out into that area.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that it's it's our time to do that.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So I've been stewarded with that responsibility as well as Yeah,

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>just you know the message what we say, you know,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we want to make sure it's right. We want to

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure it's theologically sound, and that it is bringing

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>challenges where there need to be challenges, and it's bringing

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>encouragement where they d s be encouragement. I've seen you

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>with a headset on work in production any given sunday.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I've seen you with a headset on during production. I've

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>seen you playing keyboard. I've seen you playing guitar leading worship,

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>or I've seen you preaching, yeah, or I've seen you

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>on the front road just worshiping, whatever it takes. Whatever.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You're like the man that if anybody needs anything, you

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 1>come and then you could handle everything. Well, I'll tell

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you what it's been when you've grown up in ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was a pastor. Like like I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a church. You learned how to do everything, man,

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>So you just kind of jump in where you need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Some particularly and then some things I do just because

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<v Speaker 1>I love to do. I love to play, I love

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the lead worship. I love to do that kind of stuff.

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And so when you know it's asked upon me, hey

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>can you do this, I'm like, Hey, I'm all in, yeah,

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>go and so yeah, we have a blast. On a

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<v Speaker 1>side note, for those of you that have seen the

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<v Speaker 1>sermon that I posted on this channel, Faster, Daniel wrote

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that with me, So we wrote that together. I would

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>say that I pulled it out of you. I wouldn't

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>say that we wrote it together. That's your message, man,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what, it was awesome to be

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>able to do that and to see you preach it

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and to just see now the response that's happened. You're

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>getting more opportunities to share that message. People need to

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>hear that message of hope, love it. Man. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an honor to have you on this podcast. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have you pick another one. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember any of those ones? I said, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one church. What do we do to the church? Church?

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<v Speaker 1>It just says church, that's all it says, Dear Granger.

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<v Speaker 1>I need help. I want to attend the church I

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<v Speaker 1>attended as a child. The problem is that church is

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred miles from where we live. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to attend in person because I do want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to take communion. It's very important to me to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I feel that baptism, confirmation, and sacraments and

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<v Speaker 1>standing in church saying your wedding vows are all very important.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to commit to going there once a month

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<v Speaker 1>because of the distance and the fact that I live

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>on a limited income. The church is very important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I attended the first twelve years of my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't set foot in that church until I was

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<v Speaker 1>an adult, and I cried the whole service. When I did,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I finally was home again. Help me, please,

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I hope to hear from you. You always give out

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>great advice, and may God bless you and your family.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>This has come from Linda, and I don't see where

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<v Speaker 1>she's from. Linda, thank you, thank you for emailing. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have some mixed thoughts on this one. I

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>do too. I almost have like a couple of options. Yeah,

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>please share it. Yeah, it almost kind of depends, like

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's in a small town and there's nothing there.

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>But I always want to encourage people to be local

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and to be able to You can't really have one

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>foot in one door and one foot out and really

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 1>get involved that way. And it's it's almost like you

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>are going to the childhood church for a some kind

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of nostalgic reason that it's it's you're reliving the first

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve years. I mean, that's a great time, the first

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve years of your life that I want to encourage

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you to to really discern whether that's a nostalgia that's

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>drawing you back to your childhood or if it's really

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the word of God that you're hearing better than you've

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>ever heard anywhere else. It's going to be tough to

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>discern those things. It is. What do you think about this?

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>What if someone told you this, Let me put it

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.919
<v Speaker 1>this way. What if someone in Georgetown moved one hundred

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 1>miles away and they said, I really love celebration and

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling with not being able to come back. In fact,

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to come once a month. Well, I think

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of things. I think you nailed

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it in that you've got to discern to care, where

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>does God want you? Where has God place you? The

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>reality is that does happen sometimes, and sometimes it's out

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of people's control, at least in that particular moment in

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>their life. Maybe it's a job thing or whatever the

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>case may be, and they can't be there regularly, but

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>their heart is there and they want to be there. Well, hey,

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>look as far as I'm concerned, and that's your church,

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and you make it work as often as you can.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Would I prefer for you to have a local impact. Absolutely.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're in a situation where it's like, well, I

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>work here, my church is one hundred miles away, which

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is your particular situation, but

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but my heart is really there, then I would started

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>looking for some jobs there and I would say, hey,

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>if this is really where God's called me to be,

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>then let me move and get closer to the church.

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal. We have had moved. We hear all

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the time people saying I stumbled upon your church online.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I felt so connected. We moved our whole family here

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to the Austin area so we could attend Celebration church

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>because they felt like there was a calling that God

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was giving them through the church to come and be

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a part of it. So that happens. That's a great point. So, Linda,

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>there's obviously a reason you're not doing that. Surely you've

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>wrestled with this, and surely there's a reason. But if

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>there's not a good enough reason there it is you know,

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like that seems like that solves a lot of problems.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>But driving once a month, I don't know if that

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>does it for me. I'm not sure if investing in

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the local church around you, the one that's within twenty miles,

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 1>is not better and that and you could maybe you

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>encourage that church. Maybe you become a light in that

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>local church that reflects what you miss from the one

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred miles church. And maybe they need you there. Maybe

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>they need someone like Linda in their local church to

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>help bring some of those ideas and some of the

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>feelings that you felt, bring that in to their church.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they need you there. So I also want you

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to consider that maybe this is part of this stirring

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>in you, is that this is God saying, Hey, we

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>want to revive this town where you are right now.

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to bring a revival to where you are.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And I've given you the knowledge of this church that

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you love, and I want you to take that knowledge

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and spread it here locally. And you saying that also

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>has made me kind of trigger the thought in my

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>mind is you need community. And so you know we're

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>talking in the context of service. Sometimes we only talking

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>in relationship to a service like nine thirty or whatever

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>your service time is, or your particular church. But the

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>church is so much more than a service. It's a

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>community exactly, It's a body. And so when you're dealing

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>with challenges. When I think about what we deal we've

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>had a massive ice storm earlier this year, Thank God

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>for the community that we had of people to be

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>able to help each other and do well. If you're

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>not plugged in, you don't have those relationships that maybe

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to navigate a difficult time. And it's hard

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to do that just being completely sincere. It's hard to

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>do that one hundred miles away. So that's an important part. Yeah,

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 1>small groups, yep, yep. The breakfast is that they're going

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to host the Easter services. It's gonna be hard. You're

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna have family over for Christmas and you're gonna want

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to go to church, and it's one hundred miles and

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that that mileage might discourage you from going at all.

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>You might just say I'm just not gonna I'm just

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>not gonna go at all. So I think I think

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of leaning. Yeah, yeah, we want to be

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>we want to be local, we want to have we

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>want to have an impact where we are. I get it.

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not here to tell you this is right,

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>this is wrong. But we've seen the benefit. We've witnessed

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the benefit of our lives of being local and allowing

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the local church to minister to us and for us

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>to minister to it and the people that are there.

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>It's just such a blessing. Yeah. Remember when you're tithing

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to your church as well, that's going a lot of

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>times to the local community, and you're not going to

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>see that. You're not gonna see the fruits of that

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>tithing as much if it's if it's farther away. So

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the bottom line is quit your job and

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>go get tone, go down. I want to move. I'm

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>just kidding, Linda, You've got some stuff to wrestle with.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:43.959
<v Speaker 1>But that's some great advice from Daniel here. All right,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to go to this quitting corporate job. It

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's sure. We've been preaching the gospel for

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit here and we'll go to something. It says, hey,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>g and your my name is Jack. I'm from Western

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>New York, small town, a small town outside of Rochester.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty five years old. I love music, and since

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty pandemic, I started learning how to play

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the guitar. I've been playing for over a year now,

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and I've written a few songs on my own. And

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>my dad really wants me to stay in sales and

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>climb the corporate ladder. But my gut is telling me

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that I'm meant for something more in this life, and

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that music is a part of that. I would love

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to hear about your journey and any advice you would

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like to give a guy like me. Starting out, thank

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you for reading my email, best wishes to your family, Jack,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and then he has Proverbs twenty seven to quoted here,

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>let another praise you, and not your own mouth, a

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>stranger and not your own lips. What's up, Jack, and

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>shout out to New York. Yeah, Rochester, twenty five years old,

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>We have another new beyond guitar. This is a little

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>bit similar to that last question for me, Yeah, a

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit similar. I'm interested to see where you're gonna

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>go with Yeah. Well, the first, first of all, Jack,

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>we honor our mother and father, dad wants you to

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.359
<v Speaker 1>stay in sales, and and and I think your dad

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>has a really good instinct for that, And so I wouldn't.

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>The last thing I'll do is just throw out that

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>throw out that dad doesn't know what he's talking about.

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I would, I would honor honor your father in that

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in that decision. Not that you have to do that,

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but I want you to just really simmer on that

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. The music business is tough' it's rough,

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and and what you what you kind of have to

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>realize is why are you pursuing music? Is it to

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 1>pay the bills? Or is it because it's it's making

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you happy, it's making it's giving you a creative outlet.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Because if that's the case, you could do that and

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>do any other job at the same time. So I

0:41:55.360 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>would never discourage anyone from following a passion. But you

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>are new at this and your gut is that scares me.

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Anytime someone says, my gut's telling me to do this,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you need some more evidence. Yeah, that's right. It's not

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the best. Your gut's not the best decision maker of

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the dut So pump the brakes when you if you're

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>going to pursue music as a full time career. You're

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna know more than your gut. You're gonna know that

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>this is leading you this direction. You have a little

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>local venue where you live, and it's sold out every

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>time you play it, and people love it and they

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>want to hear more music. And you you're not just

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>writing a few songs. You're writing albums and you're putting

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>them out. And the little place that you're playing at,

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the Lions Club or whatever you're playing, they can't fit

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 1>anybody else in there. And then you're gonna go, maybe

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>there's something to this, like maybe this is bigger than Rochester,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>New York. Maybe this is maybe I should venture out.

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>And then you put a band together, and so then

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>you go over to Albany and Syracuse and you play

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a few shows there, and then you go over to

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo and you get some pretty good feedback. So you're

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>still not quitting your job. You're still in the sales

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>job that your dad wants you to be in. Until

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you go, man, we're doing so well in this upstate

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>New York circuit that the only way I could continue

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>this is by quitting my job. But that's not a

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>gut no. That's some hard evidence. And the bottom line is,

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>but you could love music and you don't have to

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>make a living with it. And sometimes I use this

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>analogy with with young artists that are like, man, I

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>want to do this. I want to do this, and

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do you like you like cake? Like vanilla cake?

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And I love cake. I'm like, okay, well, let me

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>put if music was cake, this is what it'd be like.

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>It'd be like, here's some cake. Is this good? This

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is like wedding cake? Oh it? Take another bite? Yeah?

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>You sure you like it? I really like it. Here,

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>take the slice? You still like it? I love the slice. Okay,

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Now I eat the whole cake. And you can never

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>eat anything else but this cake. You're not going to

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 1>have steak or potatoes, but this cake. You still love

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it because that's what it's like. That's what it's like

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to go head first and to quit your corporate job

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and you do anything you're doing. All you're doing is music.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's like. You only get one flavor, and

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so you got to realize, hey, maybe I just like

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to eat steak, potatoes and have that body cake because

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you can still do that. Thank you Jack. I appreciate

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>your brother and I hope to see you really soon.

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>We're going to be in New York next week, so

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe we'll see you around. So, Daniel, question for

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I just got married and I need help.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend broke up with me. Feeling lost in a

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>fog and grief. Any of those. We've got time for

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple more at least, Well, let's do the My

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend broke up with Okay, okay, Hey Grangeer, I'm twenty

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>two years old. I'm from Alabama. Shout out to Alabama

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>and pastor Christian. Yeah rolling no tithes over where he is? Yeah,

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not sure if what's he's saying, if

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>he's eagle or tied here. But I'm twenty two years

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>old from Alabama. I've recently started listening to your podcast,

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and I've been a long time listening to her music.

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that you use God to help your

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>fans and your followers. I was a year and a

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>half into relationship with a girl. I wanted to marry her,

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and she broke up with me. I thought things were

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.479
<v Speaker 1>going great. I was good to her and treated her well.

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought that she would never leave now one or back.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I have done a lot of things to change myself.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>She is extremely ambitious and working four jobs this summer

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and applied to graduate school. I love and care about

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>her so much. She has been she has been so

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>good to me. But now I'm very hurt because she

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>dated a guy before me, and I think she wants

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>him back. When she when she broke up with me,

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.439
<v Speaker 1>she said she just needed time and space. I miss

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 1>her so much. I pray for her safety and healing

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.919
<v Speaker 1>every day. I'm also in my Bible every day trying

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 1>to prove myself. How do I get her back? How

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>do I show her I'm a better man so that

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>she will give me a second chance? Thank you, Slate. Wow, Slate, Well,

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>let me just let me tell you that a woman

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that is working that hard probably doesn't even have time

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to be dating and be in a relationship to start.

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>She sounds very ambitious, like she's going after it. Here's

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the thing, Here's the thing. I want you understand, Slate,

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's so important for us to realize

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that the only person we want to make the center

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.959
<v Speaker 1>of our world is Jesus. We want to make sure

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that some especially, they're not our wives, they're not our like.

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>We can't make them the center of our world because

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>there are greater things in store for you. I know

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it's difficult, and I know when you've invested time in

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, especially at your age, we go all in. Man,

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>our emotions are in, like we're all in, and then

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't pan out the way that we want, and

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>there's no other alternative but to want to get the

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 1>person back. I think those things are natural. All right,

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the heart's response. But the reality is is we

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>don't make decisions with our heart. We make decisions with

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 1>our head. Our heart and its emotions inform probably our

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>states like there's something up, there's something going on. That's cool.

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>But the reality is is you only make reactions with

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>your heart. You make decisions with your head. So you

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 1>have to be willing to say I'm going to make

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a decision with my head that my heart does not

0:47:55.200 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>necessarily agree with, and be willing to understand that you,

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>with God in your life, are already complete. You don't

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 1>need anybody else. You're already complete, and he's working on you.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>He's making you better. Okay, you're not becoming better to

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>get some girl back. That isn't the goal there. You're

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:19.240
<v Speaker 1>becoming better because you are being conformed into the image

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of Christ. You are becoming more like God. You're becoming

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a better person because the world needs the best slate

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 1>that you have to offer. So there are great things

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.399
<v Speaker 1>in store for your life. There's greater things in store

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 1>for your life than just one particular relationship. Okay, I

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:38.879
<v Speaker 1>believe that the more that you're trying to pursue God,

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:41.760
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be someone who's gonna come in your path.

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>That men, that chemistry is going to be You're gonna know,

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have that feeling of like, all right, I

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>get it, this is what I've been waiting for. But

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hit pause on your life because

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a part of you that's grieving a relationship that

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is ended. You know, you want to make sure that

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you're still pursuing God, You're still learning, you're still equipping yourself,

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.439
<v Speaker 1>you're still working hard build something. Here's the thing too,

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Jesus never called a disciple who wasn't working. They were

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>all in and doing something, all right, and and he

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>calls him into great things. He wasn't looking for the

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.720
<v Speaker 1>guy that was, you know, still living in his mom's

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>basement and she done got a job, didn't got it.

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.919
<v Speaker 1>He was looking He wasn't looking for the most educated guys,

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>but he was looking for some hardworking people. So what

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:34.919
<v Speaker 1>do I mean by that? Is that hard work, perseverance,

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>building on yourself, learning, developing, utilizing wisdom that gets you

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>noticed by more than just Jesus. Right. Yeah, but but

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>but I think that as long as you're engaging that,

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>as long as you make sure you're prioritizing the right

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>relationship in your life, then that person that is going

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to be your spouse that you're going to start that

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 1>family with it was going to see that, They're going

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to notice that, they're going to perk up, and then man,

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you start that relationship is going to be awesome. This

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 1>is probably one of the most that was amazing, Daniel,

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 1>That was amazing. I can't beat anything that you just said.

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the most common kinds of questions

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that I get to this podcast. My girlfriend broke up

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>with me or my boyfriend broke up with me, and

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.399
<v Speaker 1>how do I get her back? Because I want her back?

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 1>And she told you she needed time and space give

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>her time and space. Yep, you say you're reading your

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Bible every day. I believe that if you continue that,

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you're going to see the truth that Daniel just spoke of.

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You're going to see words like being content, being content

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>with where you are and who you are today, and

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you became I say this with all all kindness. I

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>started to sound like a broken record here. I want

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>her back, I need her? What do I do? Help me?

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I want her back? And that just screams to me

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that you you have to work on yourself. Yeah, she's

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 1>not There's something, there's something missing it. Once again, I

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>say that in the nicest way because I've been there.

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I know Daniel's been there. We've all been there. And

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:23.280
<v Speaker 1>when you're twenty two, it might seem like the walls

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>are just caving in, but time is going to heal you.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Time going by. Every day that goes by, you're gonna

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit more content without her, and you're

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna feel little bit more content with who you are

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>because she was, she was becoming and maybe already was

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>your identity. That's a dangerous thing, slate for her to

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.439
<v Speaker 1>become your identity, because what if she did come back

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and what if you continue to worship her and glorify her,

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and what if what if you lost her to a

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 1>car accident? Then you're you're on suicide watch at that point,

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>because she is your identity and you have to you

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>have to be able to honor her with the space

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that she needed. And there's no tricks that I could

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you, or that Daniel could tell you. There's no

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:15.240
<v Speaker 1>books to read on how to win her back. She's

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>got everything Daniel said. If you rewind that, you becoming

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the man that the world needs you to be will

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>attract maybe not even her. I'm kind of secretly hoping

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:32.799
<v Speaker 1>not here, it's going to attract someone even better. And

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you might hear that, go, no one's better than her.

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But I promise you, man, at twenty two, I promise you,

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>there is. And you got a lot of time, and

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of life and a lot of

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>things to figure out. And it's an exciting time to

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>be twenty two. It's an exciting time. It's also but

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's also hard to hear that you

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>probably have heard already. People tell you that, man, you're

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 1>only twenty two. Da da da, I get it. It's

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>hard to hear that, But if you're willing to understand

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that your twenties really truly are for learning. All right,

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I know you might start your career in your twenties.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you're doing college and all of that kind,

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but really your twenties are for learning. You're you're going

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to now start really figuring yourself out in your thirties,

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and then when you hit your forties, you're really going

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to be kind of in the thing that you feel

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.280
<v Speaker 1>like you're called, like you're going to start navigating into

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that space. Understand that this time, man, is for your

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>own development. Like, really, you know what you can learn,

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, biblical principles, being the church, all of that,

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>as well as being educated, getting mentors in your life

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>who can help fill some of that space that you

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>have there. Man, that's going to pay huge dividends for you.

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest, You're going to go down the

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>line a couple of years of doing that, and let's

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>say she does come back around, She's probably going to

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 1>be a lot less attractive to you at that point, Yeah,

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:01.960
<v Speaker 1>because of the person you've become while just pursuing your

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>own development, being a better person. Just like we said

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>on that very first question. Flip the script because you're

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 1>saying I want her. I want her. Number two. I

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>read the Bible. I'm trying to improve myself, but I

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:16.400
<v Speaker 1>really want her. Just flip that. Flip it. Make the

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Bible and your development towards that the number one thing,

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and make the relationship or the next relationship down the line,

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and watch how that's going to transform your life. I'm

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 1>excited for you, Slate, and thank you for emailing buddy. Yeah,

0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 1>let's let's knock out one more. We got time for

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>one more. Let's do it. Which what do you think

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:40.479
<v Speaker 1>is the best we got? We have the generic question

0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>for your podcast, which is always you never know the

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>grab bag we have. I just got married, feeling lost

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in a fog. We also have grief. Let's have grief.

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we deal with Why don't we You probably

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about grief a lot. Yeah, it does come up

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot, does come up a bit. But I'm dealing

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>with the a little bit of grief today. You know,

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 1>we've just lost someone that is close to us, literally

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>had a heart attack. Let's go there this morning. You

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:10.400
<v Speaker 1>want to go to this fresh on my mind? Yeah, okay,

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>it says, Hey, grade your My name is Gloria from

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Washington State. I'm a huge fan and I met you

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to meet and greet in Seattle. Thank you, Gloria. My

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>question is this, my husband passed away in September twenty twenty,

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and then four months later January twenty twenty, when my

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>brother passed away. How do you deal with that much

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:34.320
<v Speaker 1>grief in such a short period of time. Wow. Well,

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of things that play into

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>dealing with grief because grief is so impactful in a

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>multiple in multiple areas of our lives. I think some

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I would say initially is one,

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to allow yourself to grief, because grieving is

0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a process that I have found is unique for each individual.

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I lost my father at twenty two years of age,

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and my grieving I didn't cry. I didn't for a

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.799
<v Speaker 1>whole year. I just, I don't want to say I

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>was numb. I wasn't numb to life. I wasn't numb

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to but I just felt like the way that I

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>saw people grieve their loved ones, I didn't experience that.

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>So I thought something was wrong with me. And then

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 1>one day after we had Serena she's a baby. I

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 1>remember in our apartment she did something. I can't remember

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>what she did, but it was something that just tickled

0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 1>me so much, and I went to grab the phone

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to call my dad to tell him, yeah, and I

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>realized I can't do that anymore. And man, you talk

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>about the floodgates. You know, this may have been a

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>year and a half to two years later, and I

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>just lost it and I grieve for about two weeks.

0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 1>But it was different for everybody. But I had to

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>be okay with that. I had to come to that

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>place of saying, hey, look, this is how I'm grieving now.

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I don't have answers to those questions, yeah,

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 1>but I just know that I need to allow myself

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to go through this process so that I can be

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in a place now to be able to heal. The

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>worst thing you can do, and I'm not accusing you

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of doing this, I don't even think that you are

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>doing this, but is to try to not go through

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that process of grief. You have to allow yourself to

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>grieve that in whatever way is you know is natural

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's comforting in that particular moment. You don't want

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to run to bad things. You don't want to run

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to things that are going to be destructive for your life.

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's okay. It just makes sense for you to

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>be sad. It makes sense for you to be hurting. Now.

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I can already tell you that you're on the right

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 1>track because you've reached out to ask for help. All right.

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>When someone's in a bad place with grief, they don't

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 1>want anybody's help. So you're already going into that direction

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of that healing process in this regard. So I just

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>want to encourage you to keep going down that road.

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously, you know you have answered grief questions

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot. You've dealt with grief. You know, we were

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about our dads, you know, dying and stuff in

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>similar fashions. I mean, what would you say to that,

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to how a person navigates that. Yeah, I think you

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>said it right. You gave a good example of how

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the seven steps of grief or whatever is not. There

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is no order, there's no steps, and there is no

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>number two and number three. Everyone is different. And Daniel

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>just said he grieved a year and a half after

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>his dad died, and some people go right into it

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the second it happens and they're just instantly grieving. So

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 1>it was something something that I saw amberdo and she

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>went right into grief share class with other people that

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 1>really helped her. I wasn't interested in doing that, but

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I will. I will mention this because it helped her

0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>tremendously to get with a group of other people and

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 1>what happens to glory you go do. There's going to

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:18.439
<v Speaker 1>be a local I'm assuming you're close to Seattle. There's

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely a big grief Share grief Shared community in Seattle,

0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and you could go and join Christian based grief Share

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to sit in a group, in a

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>loving environment with other women that are encouraging you that

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>some of them have lost husbands or brothers or kids

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>or parents, and everyone will have a story and you'll

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 1>start seeing these overlapping stories with yours and you'll go,

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that's me. In fact, I didn't even realize that was me,

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>but that's me. And then you hug and you cry,

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you exchange cell phone numbers and then you

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 1>go to dinner. And it's when we can do it

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>as a community to get other It's just so it

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 1>lifts you up, and that's why the pandemic was so

1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:09.120
<v Speaker 1>hard when we separated. Yes, because we are community based people.

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 1>We need we need to be in the room, not

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:14.560
<v Speaker 1>not on a FaceTime call with someone grieving. You need

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to be in a room sharing a meal with some

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:21.440
<v Speaker 1>other women that could just hold you and say, Gloria,

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>this your story happened to me thirty two years ago.

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And I hope it comes. Yes, and you'll just you'll

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:36.440
<v Speaker 1>find lifetime friends through this that you share this and

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 1>a fraternity that you never wanted to join. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>thank God for that. Here's here's the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>would share with you again. You know I'm pastor, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's always going to come back to faith for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your grief, your pain, your questions, your anger,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even towards God. God's big enough to handle all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. God's big enough to take your questions. God's

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to help you navigate your grief. The Bible

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<v Speaker 1>says that Jesus was a man of sorrows, that he

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<v Speaker 1>was well acquainted with grief, like he experienced it. He

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<v Speaker 1>knew what it was like to be forsaken on the cross.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew what it was like to be rejected by

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<v Speaker 1>his own people. He knew what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>be denied by his own disciples, and he is well acquainted.

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<v Speaker 1>He can handle the raw and the intense and even

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<v Speaker 1>the explicit frustration and grief and pain. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to take it to God. And as you do,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to see is you're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>that healing begin to happen. I would encourage you, as

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<v Speaker 1>a believer to continue to pray, continue to go to church,

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<v Speaker 1>even when it's difficult, it feels hard, continue to worship God.

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<v Speaker 1>Put on worship music. Just put on you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Because I will also say that when we

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<v Speaker 1>worship God in grief and in despair, it's really special

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<v Speaker 1>to God. And why is that Because that's only that

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<v Speaker 1>worship we can only give God on this side of eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>One day we'll be in heaven, we'll never be able

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<v Speaker 1>to give God that kind of worship again, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can give it here. And as we do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>as we trust Him, what He begins to do is

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<v Speaker 1>he begins to heal our heart. He begins to heal

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<v Speaker 1>our pain. The Bible says that we overcome by the

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<v Speaker 1>blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>The more you begin to share your story with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to heal on the inside because God is faithful.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it. I love this podcast in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Gloria. But I know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people listening that go, that's me. The people that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't email, that's me. That's me. Right now, insert my

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<v Speaker 1>story here, Gloria. I want to say that. Lastly, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say this too, Beware of guilt. Guilt is

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<v Speaker 1>a thief and a liar. And I'm not talking even

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense of the death itself of your your husband,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the sense that you might smile or laugh

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<v Speaker 1>and instantly feel guilty that you just smiled and laughed

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<v Speaker 1>and your husband's dead. How could you dare smile or

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this meal, or go to a concert and laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at a song. How dare you do that when your

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<v Speaker 1>husband's dead. That is a liar, and that is a

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<v Speaker 1>thief of your joy. Don't let it enter your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't fall into the temptation of thinking that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be whatever your emotion is now, whether that's smiling, happy,

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<v Speaker 1>or crying or mourning, whatever it is is okay, wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are and whatever you feel. If you feel like laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Just live in that, just be in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope you email back and we could get

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<v Speaker 1>an update. Yeah, this has been fun. Hey, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Thank you for having me, and thank y'all

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<v Speaker 1>so much for the questions. And uh really, I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, man, I've just stepped into the living room

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<v Speaker 1>of so many people and so that's just that's just incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all for your transparency, your vulnerability, and for inviting

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<v Speaker 1>me in to this space. Just the thrill of my life. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>an honor to be here, to be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you come back. I hope we can

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<v Speaker 1>continue this. They might not. They might not. They might

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<v Speaker 1>not not allow you to come to back. They might

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<v Speaker 1>be like, we gotta have Daniel, man, you gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to get him back on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that we're going to start seeing that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're you're really you're good at this. Hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, and I just thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your friendship and uh man, just the blessing you are

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. Thank you, my brother. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>guys soon. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith Podcast.

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