1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Right, John with Ashlyn Selli Sells, John 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Oceans Bryan set Jacks Right. It starts right now. You know, 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: I do believe it has to be some kind of healing, um, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, with with you know, the situation and everything 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: that that transpired last year, because it's just there's a 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: lack of trust that we're broken, I think, and and um, 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's about gaining the trust back. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: And they've got to see it through me. They got 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: to see the transparency, the honesty. You know. I've always 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: said that I'm gonna be open with them and I 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: want them to be open with me, and and it 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: just comes down to communication, right and have an open 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: line of communication, and and we've been able to have 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: some conversations that way in team team settings, and um, 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think the guys have really embraced it 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and are doing well. Loves that explanation from head coach 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson because it is a real thing. There is 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: healing going on in this building and trust being rested. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Ablish As we were getting ready for the start of 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: O t AS next week, Welcome in to Jaguars Drive Time, Ashlyn, 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you, and I wanted to 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: start the show with that, guys, because it was not 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the first time that coach Peterson addressed what happened here 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: last year. Not that he needed to, but it was 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: kind of nice to say, hey, I get this happen 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: and we're moving on now. It sends the tempo to 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: his team, It sends the message and and Dougs the 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: guy is gonna say it once and be done with it. Hey, 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: this isn't what last year was. It's going to be 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: what I think it should be. No more worried about 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: the past. And he probably had to say something. It 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: seems he's alluded to it before at times. Uh sort 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: of touched on it when asked. The timing of this 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: made sense because it's really the first time that he's 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: been addressing the team and not the draft of the media, 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: since the team came back for O. T. A. S. 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: So he's had a chance to talk to players and 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: start getting to know them a little bit. And I 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: think at that point he had something to say about 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: it in terms of what he had seen. As I 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: said of reporters yesterday, I think no matter what the 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: situation had been last year, and I don't know that 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: we'll ever know about the details of it. Um we 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: know enough. But I think no matter what it had been, 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: the reality was you had a coach who was here 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: for thirteen games, which is I think the third or 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: fourth shortest tenure in NFL history. Whatever it happened, the 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: players need to walk in here looking at Doug Peterson 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: and saying he's the guy. He's gonna be here for 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: a while, even if they weren't here last year. They 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: need to know it's been shaky here before. They need 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: to look at him as a you know, a beacon 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: in the night if you will. But but I mean 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: a somebody who's going to be here long, long term 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: that you can trust. Uh. I honestly, I doubt that 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Doug has had to work very hard on that front. 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: I think it's just who he is. At some point, 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: You know this, whether you're dieting or exercising or whatever, 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: you gotta let go of what was wrong and what 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: you know, what you did in the past. And not 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: the Doug has to, but the guys who were here 62 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: have to just stop thinking about what was and start 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: thinking about what is. And I thought what he really 64 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: did was draw that line in the stand and say, 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: now we're past it. I don't want to hear about 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: what the past was. All we're doing is looking forward. Absolutely, 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: let's get into big things. Big thing one is what 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: did we see last weekend in rookie minicamp. Well, what 69 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: we saw was tray Von Walker absolutely dominating the field 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: if that is even possible in a rookie mini caamp. 71 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: We knew he was big in person, come seeing him 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: in the building, but when you saw him with the 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: jersey and the gloves and hitting pads, you said, whoa, 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: he is really big on a football field. And we 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: weren't the only ones that thought that. Just asked Stephn Lloyd, 76 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: that would I expect if athletics freak. You know, he's 77 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: very powerful, um, and you know he's somebody who I'm 78 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: glad on put you know, right left tackle because that's 79 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: a that's a bad man. So um. You know it's 80 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: it's really fun to be out there with him, and 81 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: you know I was pushing each other to get better. 82 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Big thing too is what did we hear? And truthfully, 83 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: we didn't hear much and that was a very nice thing. 84 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: In rookie minicamp. It was very calm, no music, blaring, 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: no m C. It was just guys talking to their 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: coaches and working out on a football field, which is 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: a very refreshing thing after what we experienced in last 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: year's rookie Mini caamp. But one thing we are hearing 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: is how ell Trevor Lawrence is adapting to this offense. 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, he he's so engaging right now. Um, the 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: communication is is uh is pretty incredible the things that 92 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: he sees on the football field. And even even from 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: the standpoint of you know, hey, I like this play, 94 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: this is what we did last year. I like this play, 95 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I like this concept. Is there a way that we 96 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: can incorporate this in our offense? And so those are 97 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: the those that's the dialogue that's going on right now, 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: and this is the time to really, I think, embrace 99 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: that and get it into our system now. And finally, 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: big thing three is what do we think. Well, we 101 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious why the draft picks are here. 102 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: They are here for a reason. It was very clear 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: which players were draft picks on the Rookie Mini camp 104 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: field and which one weren't. It was very clear and 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: you could pick them out on the football field and 106 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: Chad Muma Devin Lloyd, Trayvon Walker, we're all very clear 107 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: football players that can start right away, and Chad Muma 108 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: is ready to get into the stepense. Yeah. Initially it 109 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: was you know, really kind of a real surprise for 110 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: me because I saw that they took you know, Devin 111 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Lloyd in the first round, and so you know, at 112 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: that time, my mind was thinking, Okay, they got that linebacker. Um, 113 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be going there, and they're the ones 114 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: that you know, ended up giving me the call, and 115 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: so you know, I was really thankful to have that 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure how it was all going to 117 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: work now, but you know, after going through the meetings 118 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: and being able the you know, kind of go through 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: those different positions, um, and you know, be able to 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of flip between Devon and I, Uh, it's it's 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: good now, it's just still kind of getting that field 122 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: for it. Now you have it. That is Big Things. 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: We go back up to Big Thing one because this 124 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: is the clear obvious thing of rookie Mini camp. Our 125 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway was trape on Walker and not the potential 126 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: he has on the field, because we didn't see that much. 127 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: We just saw his size in action. But trying to 128 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: think of the right way to describe it, because I mean, 129 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: you hear in every draft you know the guy's a 130 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: physical freak, like Devon Lloyd said. Yeah, let's be honest. 131 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about the top one percent of 132 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: football players in the entire world at this level. They're 133 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: all physical phenomenons. Uh, But the combination that he has, 134 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's well, Look, you went to Churchill Downs 135 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, right before the horse races started. 136 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: You watched everybody walking around. They were looking to see 137 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: if they could identify, you know, a winner based on 138 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: what they could see. He's the fastest horse on the field, 139 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: or he was last weekend. I mean, he's the biggest um. 140 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: He stands out in so many ways, and he does things. Again, 141 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: I want to overplay it because it's a rookie minicamp, 142 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: but the things that he's asked to do during rookie minicamp, 143 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: he makes them look easy. He looks like a guy 144 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: that has the potential. For us to be talking about 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: this during training camp. Usually during training camp the rookies 146 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: fall off. They're not as strong as the guys are 147 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: already here. They're planning it's grown men. This kid looks 148 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: like a grown man who will look like a grown 149 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: man playing against twenty six year old Uh. You know, again, 150 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: it's just rookie minicamp. But the things he did uh 151 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: on the blocking sled uh in drills, you can see 152 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: why they drafted a number one overall. I don't know 153 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: what it will translate to on the field, but he's 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: got every chance. Well, I said to some reporters yesterday 155 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: I stood next to in front of Aidan Hutchinson in 156 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and he said, get of my way. I 157 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: would probably would have said it to him before. What 158 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: have said to this guy? Because the point is is 159 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: that Hutchinson's big, you know, six six to sixty, but 160 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: not like this. And we've been on this field before 161 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: all of us were Again, they're all impressive physical specimens. 162 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: That's why they play in professional football. But I don't 163 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: know that it had been like, oh yeah, that's it. 164 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that is the perfect combination of height and 165 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: length and speed and explosiveness. And as John said four times, 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: you know it's rookie minick, got it? I mean, but 167 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: that's what we're looking for in rookie minicamp. We're looking 168 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: to see what was it that separated this guy from 169 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson, from Ikea Mkwando and from Evan Neil. You 170 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: know the other guys who were mentioned as being the 171 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: top physical targets, Well, if you put them all next 172 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: to each other, they're all impressive in their own way. 173 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: And I stood before the other three in in Vegas 174 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: and then him. It's him, yeah, no question. If you're wondering, 175 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: it's him. Yeah. And I don't know if that's gonna 176 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: mean that he's a quote sack guy. But the more 177 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: you're you listen people talk about him, the more you 178 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: listen to him, the more you see him, you know, 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: I guess the higher confidence there is that he is 180 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: going to be able to be a productive players doing 181 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: something in the NFL. And you would be shocked if 182 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: this kid is not really really good. What if he 183 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: has eight sacks? Right, would wud be good for a rookie? 184 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: I think that would know Josh Allen had tent What 185 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: if Josh Allen has fifteen? Right? It just takes the 186 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: pressure off of the impact of what this player can 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: do is more than just what his stats say. And 188 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I think that's something that you're going to have to 189 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: watch it. Plus, I think it's pretty clear with his 190 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: frame and his hands and his you know, the length 191 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: of his arms means he can get into guys and 192 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: then keep them off of him right from getting into 193 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: his body and moving him in the run game. I 194 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: would expect that he would be a very productive player. 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: I know, with the number one overall pick and with 196 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the pass rusher in particular, you're looking for sacks. But 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I think with this player, over the first couple of 198 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: years of his career, you're just gonna be able to 199 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: watch him on the field and go, oh yeah, yeah, 200 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: that's that is a guy who is worthy if he's perspected. 201 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: I get with the outsiders are gonna say, my own emailers, 202 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: what if I don't know Brian, he's makes a whole 203 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: lot better. That's that's my point. Yeah, I mean, and 204 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: maybe his presence makes him a whole lot better. And 205 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: he has seven sacks and Adan Hutchinson has eight, and 206 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: then and the Jaguars are really, really, really good on defense, 207 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: and he's a big reason why. But gonna get that 208 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: because it's the nature of the beach. But I just think, 209 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, he looks to me like a guy who 210 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: is going to be able to contribute at a high 211 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: level for a long time in the NFL. And you 212 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: know it's too or not, but it sort of looks 213 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: like well, and I just want to say this. I 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: shared the story with you of interviewing Devon Lloyd in 215 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and how impressive he was, and I said, 216 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, what is Jacksonville getting? And he said, someone 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: who wants to be good and a good football player 218 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: and an even better person. Right in the limited touch 219 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: talk that we've had with these guys, it seems like 220 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Trayvon is kind of the same kid. Good kid, good family, 221 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: very disciplined, hard worker. Um, if that's the case, if 222 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: they're both the same case and both really good players, man, 223 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: what a home run first round this could turn out 224 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: to be. Time will tell. We've just seen a rookie minicamp, 225 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: but the signs are encouraging. It's funny sin after the 226 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: first draft weekend there was this you sort of set 227 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: your narratives, well, Devin Lloyd's rock going guy and Trayvon 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Walker is going to be very meek in front of 229 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: the meeting. Trayvon and I don't think it's going to 230 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: be as engaging as Devin Lloyd. But in the interviews 231 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: that I've seen with Trayvon and been around him, he's 232 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: a very engaging, likable kid. I just don't think he's 233 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: going to be Mr. Dynamic the way Devin Lloyd is. 234 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: But I certainly think he's going to be a likable 235 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: player for the Jaguars and and he's got a chance 236 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: to be really, really good. So Trayvon Walker, Yes, And 237 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: I catch myself asking, you know, who cares? Who cares 238 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: if Traymon Walker is in this outgoing? But that's just 239 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: who we drift to as media members. Devin Layd reminds 240 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: me a lot of Josh Allen how he walked in 241 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: this building, very similar. But Traymon Walker is a good 242 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: football player. That's all he needs to be. We heard, 243 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: we mean a movie star. We heard before the draft 244 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: that this was a draft filled with doubles, real solid 245 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: base hits. Um. This kid has the chance to be 246 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: a home run and I have a hard time seeing 247 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: him not being at least a triple watching him on 248 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: the field last week. So I think he's gonna be 249 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: really good and very productive. Does he become that superstar 250 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: that that John's emailers said, John, you were right, who knows. 251 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: Excited to see him at the least in O T 252 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: A S and in training camp. Coming up soon, we 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: have Brandon Shareff, offensive line offensive lineman joining us next 254 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drive Time. Stay with us, We're back Jaguars 255 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: Drive Time brought to you by Jet Home Loans. Excited 256 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: to have offensive lineman Brandon Shriff joined the show now Brandon, 257 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: welcome man and excited to be back on the football field. 258 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: I can imagine it's finally for real. It's really nice 259 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: and the weather is nice here too, so I'm enjoying myself. 260 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: Not too hot though yet right, not yet. I heard 261 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: it gets I heard it gets worse. It's going to 262 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: be yeah, yeah, yeah for about a week short summer, 263 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: Amen to that. So tell us just how it's been 264 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: going um with coach Peterson and just this off season 265 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: program we out on the football field. Feel it's very 266 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: relaxed but efficient. Do you feel the same way, you know, 267 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: just learn a new system with h Peterson and coach 268 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: Phil and then a new offense with Press Taylor. So 269 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I think they're just you know, trying to work some 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: baby steps here and just stacking one day at a 271 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: time and coach. Peterson always talks about the one percent, 272 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: getting one percent better, reaching every day and uh, just 273 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: just coming to work and having fun. You had different 274 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: head coaches in your time in Washington, but you were 275 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: in Washington your whole career. What's it like now six 276 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: seven years in to step up and try something new? Yeah, 277 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, change, You know, I enjoyed my I enjoyed 278 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: my time in Washington. I had some great coaches and 279 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm so thankful for you know them, and I wouldn't 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: be where I am without them. So but change is good, 281 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: and you know, just it's all it's all pretty much 282 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: the same, just new terminology, just just a new way 283 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: to do things. So just coming and uh, you know, 284 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: just just grind and have fun. What were your impressions, uh, 285 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: of Doug Peterson as an opponent for years and how 286 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: they lined up? What are your impressions now? Yeah, he's 287 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: a great coach. He's you know, he's one of the best. 288 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: He's a smart coach. You want to he want a 289 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl for a reason, you know. Uh. So, you know, 290 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate to be able to play with them, 291 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: to play for him, and you know, and learn from 292 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: him too. So I think we got a heck of 293 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: a heck of a team and we're excited to just 294 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: keep building one out of time. We're spending a lot 295 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: of time talking about you know who what, and we're 296 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. What's that like for you? First 297 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: of all, you're stepping into a new group anyway, and 298 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: now they're talking about competition at right tackle and who's 299 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the left guard? And how do you build 300 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: the cohesion when you don't know who's gonna be where. 301 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you can worry about that, you know, 302 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: right now, you just gotta you know, we we haven't 303 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: really stepped out on the field yet. You know, you're 304 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: just doing individual stuff. You are, uh doing a few 305 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: team team things, but it's all about just learning the playbook. 306 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: And that's you know, you gotta worry about yourself first, 307 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, make sure you know what to do and 308 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: how to do it. And like Phil says, he's got 309 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: three things, know what to do, know how to do it, 310 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: and be the same guy every day, so coming in 311 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: coming and work and just and just show the coaches 312 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: that you know what to do. So it sounds like 313 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: you're not concerned about it. That comes together in August. Yeah, no, 314 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it comes together. It slowly comes together. 315 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: But we also like to get people together during O, 316 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: T A S and and build that build that camaraderie together, 317 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, outside of practice too. So we just moved 318 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: into a house. So that's my goal is to finally 319 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: get be over there and just enjoy it. You mentioned Phil, 320 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you've worked with him before. What is it about him 321 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: that you like? Tell people who are watching this sort 322 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: of what defines him as an offensive line coach to you? Yeah, 323 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, he came in when I had Coach Callahan, 324 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: so he learned under coach Callahan. And uh, he's just 325 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: he's really energetic and uh, he gets along with the 326 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: guys really well. Um, so he's a lot of fun. 327 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: You know. He likes to joke around and uh, just 328 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: make the meding rooms fun, you know, because some people 329 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: are better learners than that. He doesn't he's not Uh 330 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I guess I shouldn't say that. 331 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: But he's just a fun coach and we all we 332 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: all enjoyed it. As a veteran, would you normally be 333 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: here for the offseason program? Is this important to you 334 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: as a player or is this the first time you 335 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: want to be here? Uh, to get to do the 336 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: new coaching staff. Some veterans for eight years. This is 337 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: my eight year, so I've been here for the Yep. 338 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: It's just you know, I like, I like being here because, 339 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: like I said, you can build camaraderie with the with 340 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the teammate, the team, and uh, you know, you only 341 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: have to be in here for four hours a day. 342 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: So whether it's I like to hunt and fish, you know, 343 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: you go fishing after that. You know, we just bought 344 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: a new house and uh so now it's moving into 345 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: the house and trying trying to get trying to get uh, 346 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out where everybody everything's out 347 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: in this area. You gotta work at some are amy 348 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: as We'll be here, right, that's right. Yeah. We were 349 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: on the field for the first time with this new 350 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff this past weekend and being next the offensive 351 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: line coach. Brouscher is loud, is he always? That's what 352 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: I said. Like he's fun, so he likes to be loud, 353 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: and he is loud. He was quite far the loudest 354 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: coach on the field, no questions asked. So we can 355 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: expect that going forward. Absolutely, he'll probably get louder. Give 356 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: us your perspective. I mean, we saw the young quarterback. 357 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: We're excited about him. Uh as an outsider coming in. Now, 358 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: what do you think of Trevor Lawrence? You know, what 359 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: do you what do you see from him in even 360 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: limited time? You know, he was picked where he's picked 361 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: for a reason. He's he's smart, he's tall, he's quick, 362 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's confident to in the huddle, he's confident. 363 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: So you know he's we can as long as we 364 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: do our job up front for him. You know, this 365 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: guy's looking for him. So that's that's what we're focused 366 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: on doing. You said tall, is that important or just 367 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: an observation. I'm just an observation and important too. So 368 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: speaking of coach Browser again, he told us at the 369 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: draft that his main priority in life is to protect 370 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. That's his number one job in life. We 371 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: brought that up in the line room too. We're going 372 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: to find him for that too. It's just a joke. 373 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: Every every time somebody gets put on the media, it's 374 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: always a fine. In the offensive line room, We're never 375 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: going to see you again. It's probably not. We'll make 376 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: this count at the leaks, that's right. Yeah, but no, yeah, 377 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: so as long as we're doing our job up front 378 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: and keeping Trevor up right, you know, he can do 379 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: his job and do it to the best of his ability. 380 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: So we're excited for that. And how do you like 381 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: jactually mentioned buying the new house here you're talking about 382 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: turkey hunting, said, this has to be we're getting there. 383 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: A lot a lot of guys like to go fishing, 384 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: so I've never really fishing on the on the coast before, 385 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: so I'm always you know, from Iowa, small town, we 386 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: don't have the beaches like we do out here, so 387 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: it's a new environment. But like I said, changed you good, 388 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: So we're excited. You got to give Brooks or some 389 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: of these guys to hook up with Brandon Linder who 390 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: just returned. I heard Mr Star And by the way, 391 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I was driving down uh County Road to ten just 392 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: yesterday and there were three turkeys just standing by the 393 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: side of the road waiting for you right right there 394 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: in Pontevid. Not anymore season, trust me, I've looked one 395 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: of the last ones for you for the schedule least 396 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: going back to Washington very early in the season. I 397 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: can imagine that's exciting. It's crossing off the list. No, absolutely, 398 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: you know. I, like I said, I enjoyed my time 399 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: back there, and uh, I have a lot of good 400 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: memories back there and a lot of a lot of 401 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: close friends. I'm excited to see them all. Awesome. Well, 402 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining Jack. Let's drive time. 403 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna make the most of it. We're never going 404 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: to see you again. You know, the mushroom Society is, 405 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, Ryan to an offensive lineman. They called the 406 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: offensive line coach. You'd love to call themselves an offensive 407 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: line in the mushroom Society. Do you know why that's? Yeah, 408 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: because they grow in the dark and everyone throws maneuver 409 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: on them. Jeez yeah, offensive lineman sounds like a fun 410 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: place to be. Ok, Brandon, thank you for joining us. 411 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: We'll come back on Jaguars Drive Prime Peace. M You 412 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: will not believe what Daily's Place has in store for 413 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: you this year. Coming up are the likes of the 414 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Lumineers tonight and tomorrow, Dave Matthews Band coming up, The 415 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Black Crow's Keith Urban, and much more. For a full 416 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: list of shows and to get your tickets visit Daily's 417 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: Place dot com. We are back Jaguars Drive Time on 418 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. Thank you to Brandon Sheriff for joining Jaguars 419 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: Drive Time. It is time for what's more likely a 420 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: couple of situations that we have to play out here 421 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: getting ready for O t as next week. And we've 422 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: talked at great length about Trayvon Walker and Devin Lloyd. 423 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: So what is more likely Trayvon Walker and Devin Lloyd starting, 424 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: or tray Von Devon, Luke Fortner and Chad Movement starting. Brian. So, 425 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a foregone conclusion that you 426 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: will see tray Von and Devon on the field. So 427 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: the real question here is is Luke Fortner and Chad 428 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: MoMA or not. So I went back and looked, and 429 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: there have been centers who were rookies who started on 430 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: great teams. Tom Nayland was the third round pick of 431 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: the Broncos and was a rookie the year they won 432 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl. And Mike Pouncey started at center 433 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: for the Steelers and was part of some very successful 434 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: teams in Pittsburgh. So, um, I'd like to look at 435 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: this guy. Uh, I like what I heard on John's podcast. 436 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: Um So I think he does start, and I think 437 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: MoMA plays such a big role it's like he's starting. 438 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that all four of those 439 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: guys are playing important roles very early opening day. Yeah, 440 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's clearly more likely. Just doing the math, 441 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: you've got two people who were on this question, and 442 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: then two people the same to people plus two more 443 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: so it's more likely that just to start, so more 444 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: likely than just two. But I completely agree with Brian. Uh. I. 445 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that Chad Mumu will be a seventeen 446 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: games starter on the Jaguars depth chart, but you won't 447 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: know it. But I do think that in seventeen games, 448 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: you'll look out there and watch the Jaguars and you'll 449 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: see Chad moving, running around playing, So he'll be How 450 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: about this, Ashley? How this bill your mind? I think 451 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: if you think there are thirteen or fourteen starters on defense, 452 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: which is where the NFL is these days, and I 453 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: think he will be starting. Uh. And I don't know 454 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: that Luke Fortner starts September, but out of seventeen games, 455 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: i'll bet he starts thirteen of him, I'll bet he's starting. 456 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: And you know by the end of the season, he's 457 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: the guy. I'm gonna go that. I think he starts 458 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: an opening day because I just he's just smart. K 459 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: He's huge, big, broad, looks like a center um and 460 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: other teams have had success with it, so I don't 461 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: see why not. But that's going to be a good 462 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: training camp out. The overall point is is that by 463 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: the end of these this year, I think John's luny this. 464 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: These are guys that you go, Okay, we're set here, 465 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: let's go check them out. The top seventy guys. By 466 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: the end of the year, they should look like that, 467 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: and you should know they're starting in two thousand twenty three. 468 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, what is more likely quarterback e J. 469 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: Perry or wide receiver Kevin Austen making this team. This 470 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: is both undrafted free agents that are now on the Jaguars, 471 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: and both have been very high acquired and the jag 472 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: Horse paid a lot of money to get both of 473 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: these guys here. A lot of teams wanted both these guys. 474 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: A lot of questions on on Kevin Austin out of 475 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. He had injuries, he had a suspension. E J. 476 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: Perry from Brown University is one of the better quarterbacks 477 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: that the Jaguars could have picked up. So what's more likely, Well, 478 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: both is not an option. Um, so I'll go with 479 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm just guessing, right, Um. Young quarterbacks, especially 480 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: ones that you like, are are valuable because they can 481 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: become draft picks if you develop them. They're valuable if 482 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: they have to play, but they're more valuable in the 483 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: Rob Johnson mold if you've got a good one. I 484 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: think the quarterback is a guy who sticks on roster. 485 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: I'll blow your mind again, ash Um, answer the question. 486 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: I think it's more it's almost a certainty to me 487 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: that unless E. J. Perry just can't do anything, he's 488 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster because you sign a guy 489 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he will play. So I think there's 490 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: a high percentage chance that he's on the roster doesn't play. 491 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: In that sense, it's not as much of a certainty 492 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: that Kevin Austen's on the roster, but there's a much 493 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: higher sentence chance that he contributes something. You don't think 494 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: it's any way that Perry listening goes dramatically wrong, has 495 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: a stat next year. Uh, Kevin Austen to me during 496 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: rookie camp, looked like a guy who has a chance 497 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: to get into the rotation, bare minimum practice squad guy. 498 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: So I agree with Brian they signed. When you sign 499 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback like that, you sign him with the idea 500 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: that you were going to retain him somewhere and you're 501 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: on your fifty three or keep him on the practice squads. 502 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: I think he's here. The question becomes Kevin Austin. I 503 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: think he'll be I think both, but I can't answer 504 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: both because he had your little or in there. It's 505 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: not the end question, and I didn't I'd be honestly, 506 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't pay any attention to Kevin Austin. 507 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: So he mean, he looked like a guy who who 508 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: fits in in the NFL. But can you get open 509 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: all those things? But you can easily see during during 510 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: rookie camp why they wanted him and why you think 511 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: that he has a chance to make the roster. From 512 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: what we've read, a lot of teams wanted him and 513 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: there was just so many questions around him that that 514 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: you have the hesitations and we probably won't know until 515 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: training camp what he can bring. But nine yards his 516 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: senior season. He only played seventeen games of his college career, 517 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: so when he's on the field, he's impactful. There's just 518 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot of questions and for him and his agent, 519 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those logical fits. Everybody 520 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: thought that Jaira was needed receiver. They've got five who 521 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: you think really fits solidly, but there's really not a 522 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: developmental guy in terms of a young guy right now 523 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: in this team. So there's a slot for that, and 524 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: you would think they want Austin to fill that. Now 525 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: he's got to go fill that absolutely, all right. Our last, 526 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: what's more likely who scores more touchdowns this season at 527 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: running back? Is it's James Robinson or new draft pick 528 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: Snoop Connor who scores more touchdowns? And this is interesting 529 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: because Robinson is a very effective touchdown guy. Uh both 530 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: ways right as a receiver and a runner. But we 531 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: don't know what his health is and the achilles is 532 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: a serious injury. We hear he's making progress. Um, Snoop 533 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Connor was a goal line back with you have thirteen 534 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns last year at old miss, Uh, he'll be healthy. 535 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: I won't. I won't even try to blow your mind. 536 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: I'll say Robinson because he'll have the chance to catch 537 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and run uh receiving and rushing touchdowns. So I'll say Robinson, 538 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: but Connor will get on the board. I want to 539 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: plow your mind again. I think, well, I'm gonna go 540 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: with Travis E t N. But you're not gonna go 541 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: with that. So I think Etna the running backs, has 542 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: a chance to be the guy who scores more. But 543 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: to your question, I agree with Brian. Yeah. I believe 544 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: in James Robinson as a worker, as a kid, as 545 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: somebody who can overcome things. I don't know, frankly, if 546 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: he'll be the same back at any point in his 547 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: career as he was before the Achilles It's always unknown 548 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: with that injury. If somebody can do it, I believe 549 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: he can, and I do think he will get back 550 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: this year and figure out a way to contribute and 551 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: have more touchdowns than Connor, but not more touchdowns and Travisy. 552 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: So the reason West we went with this question because 553 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: they're both really good around the gold line and we 554 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: don't know Abody. That's why I went ahead and answered 555 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: the question. Even the one thing I think that Robinson 556 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: has going for him is he was not an explosive 557 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: guy before, and he's not going to be explosive after 558 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: the Achilles injury. So I think he's got a chance 559 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: to return to form, or at least closer to form 560 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: than a lot of other guys who rely on that explosiveness. 561 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: And there's things he did with quickness in the whole, 562 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, and make guys miss instinct, that that sort 563 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: of thing that as a running back, he still needs 564 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: that acaries to work well to be good. But I 565 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: agree with you, I think he will figure out a 566 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: way to be impactful even while he's coming back from 567 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: the Sanduria. I think I'll have more touchdowns since your corner, 568 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: but not as many as Travis. Yeah, we're done with 569 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: this segment. It's your question. Yes, that was what's more 570 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: likely when we'd come back on Jaguars Drive Time. Some 571 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: closing thoughts here on the Jaguars Situal Network. The Jaguars 572 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: are a future focus and ready for a new look 573 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: in to join us at the bank this season as 574 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson and quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence lead the 575 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: charge to lock in your sleep. To lock in your seats, 576 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: visit Jaguars dot com, slash tickets, or call nine Oh 577 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: four six three three, two thousand. We are back Jaguars 578 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: Drive time. As of yesterday. Some news from Albert Breer 579 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: that has not been confirmed by the Jaguars, but Ethan 580 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: Wah is now the assistant general manager under Trent Baulky, 581 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: will join the scouting stuff here in Jackson. No, this 582 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: is something we talked about during the pre draft, and 583 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Trent Balky at the time said yeah, I'm not right now, 584 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: but didn't say it wouldn't happen. Um, this is a 585 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: move we anticipated was going to come, and it looks 586 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: like it is coming. Yeah. Shot particularly had talked about 587 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: way back the need to add uh more brainpower in 588 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: in football, more level. I guess was crazy. So Waugh 589 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: knows uh Balky from San Francisco. I worked with him 590 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: for ten years, so it's a logical fit when they 591 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: hire him, Trent, I assume we'll tell us how they 592 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: will use him. So I'm just assuming. But assistant gems 593 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: are generally on the road a lot. They're out doing 594 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the scouting and the heavy lifting that 595 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: would allow the general manager to be here and doing 596 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: more in different things to support dog in football. So 597 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: my guess is he's going to be super scout. Yes, agreed, 598 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: and we will await that news from the Jaguars, possibly 599 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: this week and coming up this week as well. Chad 600 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: Muma is on the ozone podcast When In podcast and 601 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: it was interesting. I told him a story of how 602 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I went to Wyoming, UH to interview a form Wyoming 603 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: player UH, and his eyes sort of glazed over and 604 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: I realized I was talking about somebody from the expansion 605 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: season and that Chad hadn't been born yet at that point. 606 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: So Ryan Christopher, Yeah, so I hate that. I realized 607 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: I was an old man. Yeah, but listen anyway, Chad 608 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: was terrific and I think fans will enjoy getting to 609 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: know him a little bit. Love that. 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