1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, I wonder if the measurement of a good 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: repair shop and a good mechanic isn't going to be 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: whether or not they have every scan tool, every whizbank scope, 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: every piece of diagnostic information under their sun at their fingertips. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: But more so, how many torquerenches do they have here? 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: It's when they win the hold down the rolled at 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: eight miles the Car Doctor. The next time this car 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: does if it has no spark of it has no 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: injector pulse, unplugged the alternator. Really yeah, if you unplug 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the alternator and the car runs, I'm gonna tell you 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: you've probably got a bed or a set of bad injectors. 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian, the 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: I am here to take your call. At eight five 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: five six and now running. Hey, it's time to start 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: your engines. 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We'll give you a call back and 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: get you in the lineup for the next live broadcast. 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I wonder, well, you know, we kind of get together, 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: we chat, we talk about things, you and I and 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, can I tell you what really 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: goes on in the shop sometimes? And I gotta tell 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: you this story, all right, It sort of leads into 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: the to the to the other thing I wanted to 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: talk about in the opening segment today. So you, oh, 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: yesterday gentleman comes into the shop and he wants to 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: talk about his car that that in order to get 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: at the start, he has to sometimes open and close 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: the driver's door. And I think what we're gonna call 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: this segment is from now on, is a guy walks 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: into the repair shop, because this really happened. He walks in, 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: he tells me that, and it's been going on for 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: three years. It's a two thousand two jeep with a 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: D and fifty miles has been going on for three years. 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: He walks into the shop and he wants to talk 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: about how in order to get at the start, you 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: have to open and close the driver's door, and sometimes 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: you have to bang on the shifter to get the 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: window to go up and down on the driver's side, 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: and every once in a while, when the blinkers act 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: crazy and the gauges go nuts, he's got to open 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: and close the trunk the hatch. And I looked at 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: him and I said, but that doesn't matter. And that's 56 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the reality of it. I'm wondering, are you this kind 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: of a customer? And that's that's really what I'm trying 58 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: to make the point about that, you know, there's no 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: logic to it. And he wanted to cite all these instances. 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: You know, if it rained on Tuesday and snowed on Thursday, 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: the tail lights wouldn't work, and if if you know, 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: all these strange occurrences, and I kept saying to him, 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: or to repair is not emotional. It's not possession or 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: to repair is a logical, clear cut thought process, eliminating 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: the obvious to get down to the contrite and the 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: small pieces of parts of information that allow you to 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: fix the car. You can't be emotional fixing the car. 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: You just gotta look at it and go, Okay, what 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: can it what can't it be? And then I'll know 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: what it can be. In some cases, that's how you 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: do it. He didn't like that answer, and he was 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: we're having a conversation about well, what do you think 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna cost to fix? And I said, yeah, it 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: depends what kind of shape is the rest of it in. Well, 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, in the fifteen years i've had it, I've 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: only really done oil changes. So you've never done any maintenance. 77 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: You've never changed trans fluid, never looked at break fluid. 78 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Never have you ever put brakes and tires on it? Oh, 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: you know when the brakes make noise or when the 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: tires are really slick, when I'm sliding around in the rain. 81 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, I got a bumper sticker today. Wait a minute, 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: let me find it. I got a bumper sticker today 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: from my my one of my favorite listeners, and you're 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 1: all my favorites. But Anthony tends to stand out. Officer 85 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Amelio out there in park Ridge, Illinois, HOWT Chicago Way, 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: and he says, um, the bumper sticker says, and he 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: sent it out to me because he says, ron, I 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: think you need this for the people that walk into 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: the shop. And it's now it's on the back of 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: the plow truck. I just went out there this morning 91 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: and we put it on the truck and we're gonna 92 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: show a Facebook picture of it later. But the bumper 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: sticker says, life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid, 94 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and you know, there can't be you can't be stupid 95 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: about fixing cars. There can't be emotion involved. You can't 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: tell me that you really believe opening and closing the 97 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: doors makes the car start. Yeah, maybe in some occurrence, 98 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: and maybe you know somewhere down the line that's what's 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen, but you've got to be practical about it. 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: Three years of that going on, and now you want 101 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to start to fix the car. Now it's getting on 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: your nerves. And without any maintenance and without any repair, 103 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: without any sort of mechanical observation for the past fifteen years. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: You have the audacity to say, what's this gonna cost? 105 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: My answer was simple, thousand. I don't know. It's somewhere 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: in that window maybe And he said, well, if it's 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: too expensive, I just won't fix it. Well, then we're done. 108 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: Why do we have this conversation? We wasted ten minutes 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: and and that's what I want to caution you about. 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I want to make you aware of that. 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: You know, if you support insanity in order to repair, 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: if you support the belief that opening and closing the door, 113 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: opening and closing a trunk, smacking the console, rubbing your belly, 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: spitting wooden nickels, and standing on your head is what's 115 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: going to fix the car, then you're thum is the 116 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: mechanic that's trying to fix it that way, because it 117 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I had an article. I had a conversation 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: yesterday also with someone, just to show you how stringent 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: things are getting in this industry, and maybe you'll see 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: the point. I hope. I had a call tech support 121 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: for something I hadn't install a software program on one 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: of the computers I changed last week in Bay two 123 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: and I was talking to the gentleman on tech support. 124 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: He's from California, and we were just somehow we got 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: on the subject of you know, he's asking me what's 126 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: life like in New Jersey and I was talking to 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: me about what's life like in California. He says, well, 128 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: nothing could be as bad as California. And I was 129 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: like why, and he said, well, our governor out here 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: introduced a a a legislation that is going to ban 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Listen to this one go to ban the internal combustion 132 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: engine by I mean, what do you mean ban? He goes, 133 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: no more. I'm not gonna be allowed. They're just they 134 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: won't exist in the state of California. Now, I gotta 135 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: tell you that's kind of scary stuff. That's like the 136 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: insanity of you open and close the doors to start 137 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the car. All right, I mean I'll be dead, so 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: it won't really matter to me. But you think about 139 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the country and the influence, al right, 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Like what are we gonna do with big oil? What 141 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: are we gonna do with all the gas stations, What 142 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: are we gonna do with all the mechanics that are 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: they gonna go out of work for these giants? Electric 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: slot cars. Everybody wants us to build and drive and operate. 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: We got guys out here now they can't spell O, 146 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: B D two and now you expect them to understand 147 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: an electric car and the ramifications of that. And if 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: legislation in California follows true with that, and if they 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: ban the internal combustion engine in California, what does that 150 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: mean for the rest of the country. What does that 151 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: mean for the multibillion dollar industry that the automobile is, 152 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: and how it will affect us. That's an awful lot 153 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: of change to go through in thirty two years. You know, 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I can gauge it like this. I've been fixing cars 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: forty three years. But cars forty three years ago still 156 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: had tires, brakes, engines, gas, oil, transmissions, same stuff. Electronics 157 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: got involved and they've gotten a little slicker, And yeah, 158 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: I get it. Maybe as cars getting newer and electronics 159 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: get more abundant, we're going to drive it in a 160 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: better direction and it's gonna happen quicker and faster. But 161 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: you've got an awful lot of economic consequence involved that's 162 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: going to prevent that from happening. I think going forward, 163 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: we've got to have common sense. And I hope nobody 164 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: was offended by this opening conversation. And if you were calling, 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. But I think you've got 166 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: to display some common sense. We're talking about an automobile. 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: We're talking about in a highly highly complicated piece of 168 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: electronic information. And I defy anyone that thinks it's so 169 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: easy to spend a week in the shop if insurance 170 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: would allow it, and you know what, I should probably 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: get an insurance writer. Maybe we'll do Car Doctor boot camp. 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: You spend a week with the Car Doctor and I'll 173 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: show you what fixing cars is all about. And at 174 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: the end of the week, we let you fix your 175 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: own car. We'll give you a problem to solve and 176 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: a really bad cup of coffee, um, and then you'll 177 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: understand what it's like to be a mechanic every morning, 178 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: just something to think about. There is no emotion involved 179 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: in order to repair. There's always a logical, clear cut 180 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: reason on why that car is broken. Hey, I'm gonna 181 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause. Eight five five zero 182 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: nine zero zero keep in mind. Podcasting for this radio 183 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: show can also be found at Car Doctor show dot com. 184 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm ronan Ady in the Car Doctor. I'll be back 185 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back. Wanted end of the 186 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, you know, And I just looked it up 187 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: online because I just I wanted to make sure of 188 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: what we were talking about. Fox News. California could ban 189 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: cars with internal combustion engines, regulators say. This was three 190 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: days ago California Register. California regulators are considering a ban 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: on cars powered by internal combustion engines, echoing similar proposals 192 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: in China, France, and the United Kingdom, where there's a 193 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: bunch of economic powerhouses. The chair of the California Air 194 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: Research Board told Bloomberg that Governor Jerry Brown has raised 195 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: the subject. I've gotten messages from the governor asking why 196 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: haven't we done this already? Carb California Research Board already 197 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: administers a zero emissions vehicle program that allow auto makers 198 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: to earn credits from electrified car sales, which can be 199 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: sold or traded on an open marketplace. So are we 200 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: trying to generate credits for car companies that are gonna 201 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: little longer exist because they're trying to sell electric cars? 202 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Are we trying to I don't what are we trying 203 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: to do? Several have built electric cars that are only 204 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: available in California in order to meet their quota, while 205 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: various states and centives are available to buyers. As a result, 206 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: California accounts for approximately half of the electric cars sold 207 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: in the United States of cloning. According to Clean Techniqua. 208 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Estimates on the percentage of new cars sold in order 209 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: to meet cars quality goals range from eight to while 210 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: sales in the state this year are running in about 211 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: five percent, which is five times the national average. Thirteen 212 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: other states in the District of Columbia follow car regulations 213 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: to some degree, with nine involved in the zero missions program. 214 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Tom raised a good point. He says, what's gonna happen 215 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: when somebody with a an internal combustion and it gets 216 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: to the border of California. Are they're gonna be turned away? 217 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: You know? You know, Tom, it's I get what they're 218 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: trying to do, and it's in the interest of clean air. 219 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I think about the economic ramifications, and 220 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody address this. Nobody realizes. I look 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: at the economy of auto repair in the small town 222 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: of Waldwick, New Jersey, and what it contributes the number 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: of repair shops. Delhi's tool vendors, parts houses, you know, 224 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: just just just in one little small town in America, 225 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: and now you're gonna take away fixing and repairing cars 226 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: at that level across the country. The economic ramification is 227 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: just I don't think it can be measured yet. Well, 228 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: and I hope by that time that they've come up 229 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: with more distance on these electric cars, because some of 230 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: the distances I drive, you go through hundred four miles, 231 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I have to stop for a charge to work with me. 232 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I actually heard a very good idea on how they're 233 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: going to get away with that, whether it works or not, 234 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: all right, is you know they'll get they'll get the 235 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: charging distances up to three miles, and then it'll be 236 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: a matter of you'll pull into a battery station and 237 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: they'll swap the battery pack out with another recharged pack. Okay, 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: wells right, kind of like going to the gas station. 239 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: The question is, you know, I guess, I guess they'll 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: have a flat fee on what that charged battery pack 241 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: will cost. Okay, but we're assuming that everybody is going 242 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: to take care of their car in an equal and 243 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: precise manner. And I can tell you, having worked on 244 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: a car yesterday, that it was a five passenger vehicle, 245 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: and there was so much stuff in this car, all right, 246 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean everything from small boulders on the floor of 247 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: the passenger side, two dirty drain the back seat. Tom 248 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: made your car look like it was brand new, and 249 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, there was just about room for me to 250 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: get in and out of the car to work on it. 251 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: And you say to yourself, where are they gonna put 252 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: the battery pack? I hope it's accessible. I hope it's 253 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: in an area. And then the other thing I think 254 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: about is, and I know we're kind of getting on 255 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: the subject here of what today's shows about. We're trying 256 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: to get to some calls, and I will in a minute, 257 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you know, think about how many cars 258 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: you see driving around with bumpers that are cracked, falling off, 259 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: body panels, missing pieces of the car that are no 260 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: longer there, and they're still on the road, and they're 261 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: on the road because of economic conditions that person can 262 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: afford to maintain that car beyond what it's at right there. 263 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: And the question I've got is, so where are they 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna put the battery pack? And what if what if 265 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: something happens? What if that person with that electric car 266 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: has a drive ability issue from that battery pack, and 267 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: now you're gonna inher. It's somebody else's problem battery pack. 268 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: So how well can they test all this stuff? And 269 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: I bet you see that people just don't take care 270 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: of their cars in general and don't do the maintenance. 271 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain specific things you're gonna need 272 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: to do with the batteries. They're just not gonna do it, 273 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: you know. And an electric car is just to me 274 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: such a precise, exact piece of equipment with zero tolerance, 275 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: zero tolerance for you know, error, And it's it's think 276 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: of how much abuse you can give your computer and 277 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: how long does it last? And now you're gonna take 278 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: it out over the road at seventy eight miles. Maybe 279 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: we don't need to go visit California, all right, last thought? 280 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: So in California. California is the home of aftermarket performance, right, 281 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: edel Brock, Holly, all the performance companies that came out 282 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: of there in the fifties and the sixties and and 283 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: and so forth. Think about all of a sudden, you 284 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: don't need Edelbrock, you don't need Holly, you don't need 285 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know, any of the hooker headers and 286 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: all the herms that the baby boomers grew up with, 287 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, the sixties and the seventies through hot rotting 288 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: and stuff. Where's that all gonna go? And what kind 289 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: of economy is that? And how's that going to affect everything? 290 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're either gonna have to modify or die 291 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: basically modified to what bigger armatures, more electric motors. I 292 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: you know what, we've really got to pay attention to 293 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: what the legislators are trying to do, because you know, remember, 294 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: these are the same people that told us twenty years 295 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: ago we're gonna run out of oil. Okay, now we're 296 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: gonna have an abundance of oil to match the current 297 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: abundance we've got. And where the gas and oil company 298 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: is gonna go? I gotta go to the phones. I'm 299 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna go to a phone call. I'm sorry, every up 300 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: in Maine, Line one, you're out the car doctor, I'm sorry, 301 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: every I got off track there a little bit. But um, 302 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: just just where we going? Where? Where are we going? 303 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Do you see? Let me ask you, you know what 304 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: do you think you think they can get away with 305 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: banning internal combustion engines by your I don't know. I 306 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of think that that's pushing it. You can't get 307 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: we can't get customers to change their oil. How are 308 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: they going to get people to maintain batteries? Right? It 309 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like it sounds like a gentleman 310 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: in the trade. What do you do for a living? Yep? Actually, 311 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just about ready to graduate Universal Technical Institute 312 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: with Automotive and Diesel Mechanics for you. Congratulations? Oh what 313 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: can I What can I do for? You're looking for 314 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: a job? You want to? I have no I got 315 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: family up here in me and I gotta get a piece. 316 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: I gotta be around. Um, but I'm about to graduate 317 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: U T I like I said, And um, I have 318 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: a student discount program to snap bonds, but it's limited, 319 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: and I don't believe that I need a snap on 320 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: for everything. So I was just wondering if you had 321 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: a shortlist, the shortlisting would definitely want. Yeah, the the 322 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: shortlist is. I like snap bonds, wrenches and screwdrivers. Okay, 323 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: I like their sockets. I like their ratchets. I like 324 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the way they feel, I like the way they hold up. Um, 325 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, good stuff, good warranty, and my experience the 326 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years has been that when I when 327 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: I you know, I have a snap On guy. I 328 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: have a Mac Guy. I've always had a snap On guy. 329 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have a Mac Guy for the better part 330 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: of eight years, and it sort of drove me nuts 331 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: because I have a couple of Mac pieces and you know, 332 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: something would break and you have to go through holy 333 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: heck to get warranty, and it just didn't work. I 334 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: always believe there's gonna be a snap On guy. If 335 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the Mac guy goes out of business, I don't know 336 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: how fast the company is gonna be to replace them. 337 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: So I always keep that in mind when I'm buying tools. 338 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: That being said, there are some things that you know 339 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I won't buy from snap On that I don't like. 340 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: You said, I think it's overkill, you know, I think 341 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: their scan tool is decent. You've gotta be willing to 342 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: pay the freight. UM. I've got a Motus, but I 343 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: bought it at year end, at the end of the run. 344 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: I got a great deal on it. It It was a 345 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: close out. I won't pay the full boat price. I 346 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: don't see the need for that. Um, But I'll tell 347 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: you what state? What right we are? Amory? I don't 348 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: want to rush this. Let me pull over and do 349 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: what I gotta do. When we'll come back, we'll finish 350 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: up this conversation. I'm running any of the car Doctor. 351 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back when I'm leading 352 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: the car Doctor at zero zero we're on the phone 353 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: with Emery from main Emery. You're still there, Emory? Okay, um, 354 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: so you know, uh, do you have a do you 355 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: have a digital vault domemeter? Here's a here's a great example. Yes, 356 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: I have the one the school gave me, all right, 357 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: and what what what make is? Is it a fluke? 358 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: It's a blue it's a blue point, all right? So 359 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: it's a snap on And you know there's the classic 360 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: there's the classic example. Right, the snap on guy comes around, 361 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: he'll sell you a meter that's you know, it says 362 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: blue point or snap on on it. You know what, 363 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: I prefer a fluke. I you know, fluke is the benchmark. 364 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even consider the snap on digital voteomemeter. You know, 365 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: for all the years I've had a fluke. You know 366 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: you can bounce it, drop it, kick it, you can't 367 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: kill it. And when you eventually do, you you either 368 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: get the company to repair it, and the company is 369 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: always gonna be there. Order repair is about longevity in 370 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: the company and and how long that manufacturer is gonna 371 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: be around and is it bang for the buck? Because 372 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: I guarantee you whatever you've got in your box, except 373 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: for the ratchets, wrenched sockets and screwdrivers, all the rest 374 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: of the specialty stuff is gonna be outdated by next week. 375 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: And it's just this constant chronic, you know, always. You 376 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: know what I've got in my toolbox? I saw the 377 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: other day. Um you ever have you done any rear 378 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: axle or like a rear real drive old school GM 379 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: where the truck Okay, so you know that opinion You 380 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: know the cross bolt that the opinion bolt that holds 381 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: the cross shaft in. It's got that little eight millimeter 382 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: head on it that threads into the carrier. Every once 383 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: in a while now they always break off. I actually 384 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: have the tool for that that you can clamp it on, 385 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: drill it out and you know you don't have to 386 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: pull the carry. You can do it right in the 387 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: car used it twice, used it twice, haven't used it 388 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: in the better part of Gosh, it's got to be 389 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: twelve or fourteen years, it's forever now. But I look 390 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: at it every I look at it every time I 391 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: open up that draw on the box, third third draw, 392 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: right side, you know, all the way tucked in the corner. 393 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: It was. It was, I mean it was cheap. I 394 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: think it was like thirty nine bucks. And I said, oh, 395 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they're gonna make me a fortune. Now, 396 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: the argument could be made that since you own it, um, 397 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: you never have to see it, because when when when 398 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the mechanical gods know you're prepared, they never give you 399 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: that job. They always give you the thing you don't 400 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: have the tool for, which is why you gotta buy 401 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: one of everything. It just doesn't nen't necessarily all be 402 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: snap on, all right, I think. I think when you 403 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: get into the specialty stuff, you've really got a review 404 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: and see what the other guys are using and what works. 405 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: You know. I wouldn't buy snap on drop lights, but 406 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: I would be prepared to me. Uh, you know, we 407 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: we have a lot of lights around the shop. We 408 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: don't we have corded lights. I haven't used one again 409 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: a long time. Because everything now is portable and cordless. 410 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: But I make sure that I buy a cheap enough 411 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: light that if I destroy it in a year. It's 412 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: a consumable, you know. It's it's a hundred bucks you're 413 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: gonna throw away. That's how you got to think about it. 414 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: And at the end of the year, when it's all 415 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: battered and beat up and makes your eyes squint when 416 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to use it, you throw it out. January one, 417 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: you buy another one. And you know, do I want 418 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: to do? I want to do? I want to spend 419 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: three for that from snap monel. Do I want to 420 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: spend a hundred bucks for that from the mac guy 421 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: or online somewhere to autopia or something, And you know, yeah, 422 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I like the blue fuel of the nap on the 423 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: NAPA have. Yeah. You know, certain things are just consumables. 424 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: Have you heard of I a t N you know, 425 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: read with the guys in I A interesting Yeah. I 426 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: a t N dot net the Mechanics forum. You can 427 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: you can sign up and join. It's a couple of 428 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: bucks a year. It's dues, so in the eyes of 429 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: the government it's a tax deduction, which it is. It's 430 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: it's part of your process of being in the trade 431 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's you know, it'll give you information. Uh. 432 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: One thing I can say about I A t N. 433 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: If you think you're facing a problem that you've never 434 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: seen before, where do you go out there and start 435 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: reading what everybody else is talking about? Um? You know, 436 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: so it's it's it's it's a very worthwhile place to 437 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: go and get information. But I'd be reviewing things that 438 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be uh be like fixing the cars you heard 439 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: me talking about. You don't want to be emotional fixing 440 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: the car. You don't want to be emotional trying to 441 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: purchase the new tool either. Um. You know snap Ons 442 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: come out with a zeus. Have you seen the new 443 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: zoos scan tool. I've heard about it. I heard your 444 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: broadcast last week on it. Yeah, and you know, all 445 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: the snap On guy wants to do is sell me 446 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: one for sixteen thousand dollars. And you know, the argument 447 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: kind of comes back to, yeah, but what makes it 448 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: so different? What makes it so much better? And you 449 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: know there's a there's a lot of little holes there, 450 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: and he wants to make it emotional, and I want 451 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: to make it a calculated decision. And that's what if 452 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I was starting over, I'd be very calculating about what 453 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm buying and do do my research. It's a process, alright, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 454 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: I think I think the Launch stuff is a lot 455 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: of bang for the buck. And I you know what 456 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: I I that's what you're after, You're after diversity. You know. 457 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I was just looking around again. I finally got the 458 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: pile of nineteen scan tools down to her. I'm actively 459 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: using seven and you know, I'm trying to whittle that 460 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: pile down to three. And I'm trying to figure out 461 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: what what's better than that and who does this and 462 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: how does that work? And you know, but the Launch 463 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: scan tool, the little what is it the Launch It's 464 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: a little red tablet. It's about fifteen or eighteen hundred 465 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: bucks retail on the street. Um, is it the X 466 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: four one? Yeah, the little tablet. It's like a ten 467 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: inch tablet. Um, you can grip it right or left handed. 468 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: It's it's got that ergonomically handled grip. It's in a 469 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: red case scan. Yeah, there it is. And that's our 470 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: own Barry Barry a k A Tony Atwood White. Um. 471 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: You know that that's that's a lot of bang for 472 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: the buck. There are holes. There are things that tool 473 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: doesn't do. But that's okay because it wasn't ten thousand dollars, 474 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't sixteen thousand dollars. But if you're gonna be 475 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: in a repair shop and you know you need a 476 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: good functioning, everyday scan tool, yeah, that's it. Um it graphs, 477 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: it prints, you can email the information to yourself. You 478 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: want to get yourself. I think it's Google print or 479 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: cloud print. Install it on it's an Android, you want 480 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: to install it on the Android device and you're good 481 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: to go. But you know the problem. The problem is 482 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: you need you need a hundred thousand dollars worth the 483 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: tools to walk in the door day one. And you know, 484 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: on top of that, you get to pay off your 485 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: loans and you have to be smart enough to know 486 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: that you're smart enough to go do something else. And 487 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: you wonder why we can't get mechanics in the country, 488 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: And that's a whole another conversation. Never put me on 489 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: that boarder review. So all right, Amory, alright, alright, very much, 490 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Good luck to you kid. I'll have 491 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: a great time. Um yeah, that's you know what, And 492 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's got a heck of a career in 493 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: front of him. He's gonna really see some changes. He'll 494 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: be there when California bands the internal combustion engine and 495 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: everything changes and we go to electric cars and the 496 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: things that the kids are gonna see, the kids that 497 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: graduate from U t I and other places like that, 498 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: you know what, to a degree, I'm jealous. I wish 499 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: I could be there with them as they go through 500 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: the changes, because it's gonna be very, very interesting. Let's 501 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause. Eight five five zero zero. 502 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna get it right to 503 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: Kevin with the two thousand three Yukon Hank tight, Kevin, 504 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm coming for you, Ronn any of the Car Doctor. 505 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back on any of 506 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Let's go over and talk to Kevin 507 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: and Maine two thousand three Yukon Excel and some error 508 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: coachs Kevin, welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Yes, sir, 509 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: what's going on? I've got a m I've got a 510 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: Yukon Xcel two thousand three three quarter ton um. They 511 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: use it for tone camper and keep getting a p 512 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: O one oh one mass their sensor. Uh, code okay, 513 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: and sometimes that any other full codes Kevin? Or is 514 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: it just that one? Yes? Well, sometimes that code comes 515 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: up all by itself, but but a lot of times 516 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: it comes up with the seven oh one, and I 517 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: believe oh seven oh four as well. UM, it comes 518 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: up almost every time I toe, UM, when the truck's unloaded, 519 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: it fairly comes up. It still does come up. Who's 520 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: doing the diagnosis? You already have a you have a 521 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: repair shop pulling the codes. Just me. I've got a 522 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: bully dog tuner with a gauge display on it that 523 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: that shows me the codes. Do you have the ability 524 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: to do at freeze frame? No? No, you're gonna say 525 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: something else. Uh. What I've done so far with it 526 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: is UM. I used. I swapped the mass air sensor 527 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: from another truck. UM, another truck that I knew it 528 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: was good. Did we didn't have any codes? UM, and 529 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 1: that didn't make any change to it. UM. There was 530 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: a technical service bullet and I found and that some 531 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: of my other symptoms, which was a rough idal on 532 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: a cold startup talked about correct. I changed to the 533 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: newer teal green gaskets and that's solved the rough cold 534 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: idle issue. But I still have the the the mass 535 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: air sensor. Okay. So so are you still getting all 536 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: the codes or just the one oh one? Uh? Well, 537 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: like like I said, sometimes it's just the oh one 538 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: on one, but that other other times the other seven 539 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: oh one and seven or four. Okay, so you're still 540 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: getting pretty much You're still getting pretty much the same 541 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: fault codes. Ye. All right, I gotta buy a scan tool. 542 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: All right. You're gonna have to get you everything. Get 543 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be expensive, just something that will 544 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: read data stream. And you're gonna have to start to 545 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: look at fuel trim. You want to know what fuel 546 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: trim is. All right? Were you a boy scout? Were 547 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: you were you boy scout? Kevin? Okay, so you know, 548 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, remember when they taught us about building a 549 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: fire using wetwood, dry wood and leaves and you know, 550 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: hot flame, cold flame and all that stuff. So we 551 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: want to look at fuel trim. We want to look 552 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: at you know, hot flame, cold flame. Um, you know, 553 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: we want to look to see you know, enough oxygen, 554 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: too much oxygen, not enough oxygen. And you know that's 555 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: what fuel trim is all about. If zero is a 556 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: perfect fire, then if we if we take away oxygen 557 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: or if we add oxygen to it, we've got to 558 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: add more fuel to maintain that balance. So you're gonna 559 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: see fuel trim go on the increase. If it's the 560 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: other way, you're gonna see fuel trim go negative, trying 561 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: to take fuel away. If it's running too rich. You 562 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: want to see a fuel trim is all right, it's 563 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: you're you're typically going to see zero plus or minus 564 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: eight percent. But then again, depending upon where you are 565 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: and what part of the country hot mountains, you know, 566 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: flat lands below sea level, all that stuff comes into effect. 567 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: You know what's the barometric pressure that day. But general 568 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: rule of thumb, zero plus or minus eight is a 569 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: good is a good number. Um. You know, if you 570 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: have another vehicle that's similar to it, which it sounds 571 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: like you do because you swapped it in from another 572 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: mass airflow, I would tell you to grab that one, 573 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: and I would tell you to grab that one, and 574 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, drive to drive the known good and compare 575 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: that to the known bad. My suspicion is that if 576 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: you get this to set codes, take a look at 577 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: freeze frame. Alright, when does it happen? Most of the 578 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: problems with the intake gaskets happened when the vehicle was 579 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: during vehicle warmup. It happened between a hundred degrees. I'd 580 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: be curious to see if you're still having that problem. 581 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: Changing the gaskets was a great thing because you have 582 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: the orange to the teal green does make a difference. 583 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: But there can be other vacuum weeks there that are occurring, 584 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: and you sort of need to track those down because 585 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: one oh one means that the mass airflow it's it 586 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: thinks the mass airflow is under reporting air volume because 587 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: it's it's possibly sourcing air from another source. And now 588 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: we've got to track down that other source and the 589 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: other way we know this for sure as we've got 590 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: to take a look at fuel trim, uh, you know, 591 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: fuel trim. Fuel trim becomes very important. Of course, then 592 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: there's always the possibility that the other one you had, 593 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: that the other vehicle you've got has appending one on 594 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: one that you haven't seen yet, because that mass air 595 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: flows out of calibration too. So that's why swapping parts 596 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: is okay, but you've gotta have a scan tool to 597 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: back it up. Fuel trim is bible on a lot 598 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: of these cars today, you've got to know that they're 599 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: good to go, and you've got to take a look 600 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: at that, get a look at fuel trim. If you 601 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: need more information, you want me to help you understand 602 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: it better, I'm glad to do it. Send me an 603 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: email Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. And if 604 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: you want to talk about scan tools, I can help 605 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: guide you accordingly, there too, eight zero zero. We're coming 606 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: back right after this welcome back, weren't reating the car Doctor. 607 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Lisa in Minnesota buick 608 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: and some heater issues. Lisa, Welcome to the Car Doctor. 609 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hi? Ron Um, I've got a 610 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: problem with a ninety eight Bullock lest Saver. Before I 611 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: ask you about the problem, though, I'd also like to 612 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: mention that I'm one of those economic factors the industry 613 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: forgot about years ago. They As I tried to buy 614 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: a newer car, I can't find anything with a bench seat. 615 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm a rural mail carrier. Yeah, I require a right 616 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: hand drive or a bench seat. I alwas I got 617 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: to drive with some kind of a conversion, and I 618 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: hate the conversion. Yeah. Um, anyway, that's why I drive 619 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: a N I d if you look with Saber. I 620 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: just bought this one and it's the first one I've 621 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: ever had that has a digital heater in it. And 622 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: according to the manual, if there's anything wrong with the unit, 623 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: it's supposed to flash, and it doesn't flash, and it 624 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: gives a normal readout for the temperature outside of that 625 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: part works. Um, what it does is it won't blow 626 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: any air through the mid vents. My first reaction to 627 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: this was maybe air flow blockage mice. But my mechanic 628 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: tells me there's no air flow block that she checked. 629 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: He says I should probably replace the unit, but he's 630 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: also not an electronics person. He told me that too, 631 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: so I thought i'd get a second opinion on this. 632 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: It blows air out the top on the windshield all 633 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: the time. Even when you put it on floor, there'll 634 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: still be a stream coming through the middle on the top. 635 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what could be. It could be 636 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: something internally electronic, or do I need to replace the unit. Well, 637 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: it could also be just a stuck blend or this 638 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: was This was around the generation when we went to electronic. 639 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: Everything was electronic. We went to blend or controls and 640 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, there are ways to verify, um, you know, 641 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: output from that control head is it Is it doing 642 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do? If memory serves me right, 643 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: I thought there was a way to hit some buttons 644 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: on the control head and you could get feedback codes 645 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: through the control head itself. Looking at a series of 646 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: blinking lights. Is that this particular model? If you read 647 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: anything on that. I have the research. There's been a 648 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: since I've seen um, but there there there are some 649 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: ways to you know, check for codes. If you can't 650 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: do it through the control head, a dealer level scan 651 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: tool and I'll say it like that, or a dealer 652 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: level equal scan tool should be able to pull codes too, 653 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: because there is a way to pull codes out of 654 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: that system and look for a response. You know, so 655 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: you want to talk to your mechanic about that, if 656 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: memory serves me correct. There was also a functional test. 657 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: We're using a good scan tool. You could tell it 658 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: move this door, move that door, give me this, give 659 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: me that, and actually wait for the response. Because this 660 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: is back in the generation of you know, we were 661 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: just all learning how to work on cars with computers, 662 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: and they had to give us the ability for functionality. 663 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: Go back and talk to your mechanic passing what sort 664 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: of scan total he has. This isn't about O B 665 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: D two. This is about manufacturer specific information. Um, this 666 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: could be a bad controller and we can have that 667 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: conversation next week. But this could also be a bad 668 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: blend or and I wanted to understand the difference. So 669 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: go back, get to me some more information, and call 670 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,959 Speaker 1: me back next week. I'm on anading the car doctor 671 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: and mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you