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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. Jam packed Friday show today, as

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Speaker 1: all right, that right, And because of that, I would

424
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: think okay, that means they're not going to give him

425
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: an offer and try and get him signed beforehand. Now that, hey,

426
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: just give us a call after you get your best

427
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: offer that you think you're going to sign. At least

428
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: just give us the courtesy of trying to compete. And

429
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: he may do that, and unless they've probably had preliminary

430
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: discussions about okay, what are you what are you thinking

431
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: first of all, whether it's out there or not, and

432
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: then they start from there. And if and if the

433
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: Bills say, well, how about we're not gonna go there,

434
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: but how about here? And they'll say we're gonna go

435
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: And I said, fine, that's it. But that's yeah, it's

436
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: the cap number gives the Bills more freedom to do that. Yes,

437
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's what it hinges on. It

438
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: hinges on the other teams. If and I think we're

439
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: looking at Shack Lawson and we're looking at Harris Phillips,

440
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: George Phillips, guys like that, Um, they're just gonna'll they're

441
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: gonna sign a nice deal and and they'll be done

442
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: and Milano will have to leave. And that's you know,

443
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: that's hard to man, because he was a gem right.

444
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's a little nicked up at times

445
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: during his career, you know, kind of frustrating on his

446
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: for him, I'm pretty sure as well. But man, oh man,

447
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: what a find he was in the draft when he

448
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: came out and have what a contributor he's been. And

449
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to sign, I want to say he's

450
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: gone to see you later. By I hope the guy

451
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: stays somehow, some way. So yeah, it'll be interesting to

452
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: see where the CAB number lands and how it could

453
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: impact what the Bills can and cannot do. I mean,

454
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: there's already one other teams in a similar boat, some

455
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: in a far worse boat than the Bills are in

456
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: right now, but still there is that. And then the

457
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: last bit of news, Nathan Peterman I saw this has

458
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: resigned with the Las Vegas Raiders one year, two point

459
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: two five million dollars, so he will continue there, at

460
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: least for now as one of the backup quarterbacks in

461
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. And yeah, I mean I know that John

462
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Gruden likes him. He's a hard guy not to like,

463
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: always going to do the right thing. You know what

464
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: you're going to get from him from a work ethic standpoint,

465
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: fantastic teammate. He's just never gonna shed that start that

466
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Speaker 1: he had here in Buffalo. Amongst the Bills fan base,

467
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: They're never gonna forget him for that. It's unfortunate, but

468
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: at least he gets to continue his career out there

469
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. So you see before we head out

470
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: of here for did you see the Josh Allen high

471
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: highlights from twitch where he yes, I had to go.

472
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Buffalo game? Yes, yeah, me too, Yes,

473
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: we had never heard of it. I was surprised. We

474
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: had a similar game at Geneseo um various athletic teams,

475
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: but we had a golf ball. So this is this

476
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: totally flies in the face of anything remotely sanitary. But

477
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: there instead of saying so beer in the wrong hand,

478
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: so you can't put your beer in your dominant hand,

479
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: which for most people is your right hand. So if

480
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: you have your beer in your right hand and you

481
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: forget and somebody calls you on it and says, buffalo,

482
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: you got a pound whatever's in your glass exactly. So

483
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: you got a full can or a full glass and

484
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: someone called Buffalo on you, you're done. You gotta drink it.

485
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna be. That's the game. We we did not

486
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: even have a name. We had a golf ball and

487
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: it would be floating around the room. Somebody had it.

488
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: And if you're not paying attention and you don't have

489
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: your top covered and you get golf ball, they drop

490
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: it in your drink. Oh god, you have to pound

491
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: it and then you get the privilege of now having

492
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: the golf ball and sniping somebody else. Well, here's the thing.

493
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: The history of the game goes way back. So what

494
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: it was was when guys wore guns. Cowboys wore guns

495
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: on their hips, and you always wanted your gun hand free.

496
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: But that was your dominant hand. So everybody drank, but

497
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: you had with your opposite you're in dodge, which where

498
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Speaker 1: I Yeah, if you're in dodge, you don't want your

499
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: you're in the long branch. You don't want your gun

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00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: hand occupied. Yeah, So if somebody flipped you a buffalo nickel,

501
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: you caught it with your dominant hand, right, that was

502
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: the hand. So they do that, and that's that was

503
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: the hand you could not drink out of. So when

504
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: everybody called so you had to hold the glass in

505
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: the other hand, right, so your gun hand was free.

506
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: To protect yourself and your Look at this history lesson.

507
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: That's where the game came from. That's the way I was.

508
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: I learned it now. Yeah, and once I and I

509
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: have also my sons are in it there and it's

510
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: for life too, by the way, right, so you can't

511
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: exit the game until until they carry you, right, it's

512
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: always on. I have not entered the game with my sons,

513
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: so I'm still but I have a good Yeah. It

514
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: got so bad at that hour get togethers that you

515
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: were conditioned to walk around with your hand over your hand.

516
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: You'd hold your glass like this so you wouldn't get

517
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: golf balled. Yes, it was terrible, Like it was just

518
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: and go to a party to have a good time,

519
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: not to be looking over your shoulder the whole terrible.

520
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: It's rough too because you get caught at the wrong

521
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: time drink. You're in deep trouble. All right, gotta we

522
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: do have to break. We'll take a break now, but

523
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: when we come back, We've got Bill's defensive tackle Harrison Phillips,

524
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: the team nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the

525
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: Year Award. The most coveted, well not the most coveted,

526
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: but the most respected award clearly in all of the NFL.

527
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips is up for that along with thirty one

528
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: other candidates from around the league. We'll talk to him

529
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Speaker 1: about that, along with his twenty twenty season and how

530
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Speaker 1: he felt it when Harrison Phillips up next here on

531
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

532
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live, this brown seacast with

533
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: you on a Friday, and as promise, joining us on

534
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: the line right now. It is Bills Defense if tackle

535
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, who is up for probably the most respected

536
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: award in the entire NFL, the Walter Peyton Man of

537
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: the Year Award. And Harrison, I didn't even realize this.

538
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: You're also up for the Salute to Service Award, which

539
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I get Is that also being awarded this weekend? I

540
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: think it is right? Yeah, I believe so. Yes. So

541
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: that's awesome, man, gratulations, A huge honor to be down

542
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: here and represent the Bills. You know, Like I mentioned

543
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: when when I first got my nomination, ours is really

544
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: unique because we have so many deserving guys in our

545
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, it's incredible and so to be

546
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: the kind of catalyst who gets to come down here

547
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: and represent our organization in Western New York is a

548
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: huge blessing. And I was just gonna say, like, you're

549
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: like the Meryl Streep down there. You're like nominated for

550
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of different categories here. I mean, you're doubling up. Man.

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00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: It's like, that's pretty cool because I don't know if

552
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: I should have looked it up, but I didn't have

553
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: the time to do it. Because I'm curious how many

554
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: of the guys you know up for Walter Peyton Man

555
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: of the Year are also up for like Salute to Service.

556
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: I bet that the number is very few. I bet

557
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: there's probably only a handful of guys that are that

558
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: are double fisting like you are so good on you man,

559
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: for all your efforts. Appreciate that. Um the Playmakers obviously

560
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: is your great cause, your foundation. And I think the

561
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: thing that I like the best about how you run

562
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: that is very often you don't just go and speak

563
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 1: to kids or you know, council kids or you know

564
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: kind of mentor kids. You mobilize kids to help kids.

565
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: So maybe just talk about that aim because it's I

566
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: think it's a very unique way to run a foundation

567
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: because you're almost helping the next generation help themselves. Yeah, correct,

568
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, you kind of hit the nail on

569
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: the head there. Um, it's been a blessing to work

570
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: with the kids that we do and been so fortunate

571
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: to find so many great kids in Western New York.

572
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, we try to, you know, just inspire these kids.

573
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: You know, we work primarily with kids with developmental differences

574
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: and special needs, but we also like to pair them

575
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: the same way that Special Olympics does and unified sports

576
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: with at risk kid It's in the inner city of Buffalo,

577
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: so there's a unique dynamic already there. You know, you

578
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: have you know, people from the inner city working with

579
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: kids with special needs, and there's a really cool relationship

580
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: that forms there. But then also there's such a negative

581
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: perception that kids with special needs are you know, dependent

582
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: and they need help, and that's not the case. We

583
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: have some unbelievable kids who are so you know, so

584
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: independent that they cannot only serve themselves, but they can

585
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: serve their community and give back. And so um, that's

586
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: the message that I'm trying to teach them. And more

587
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: than often they are willingly and jumping with joy to

588
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: try to help the next person in lie it's super

589
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: inspiring to see. And what are your plans for the

590
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: few I mean, after this you get some a little

591
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: bit more notoriety. How can you parlay this into helping

592
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: the cause here in Buffalo? And what can Bills fans

593
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: do to jump on board with you? Yeah, you know,

594
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean for the immediate plans. Obviously, we got to

595
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: figure out this this virus stuff too. But we have

596
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: some plans for working at the up the Wesleyan Church here,

597
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: uh right right in Hamburg to do an event in March. Um,

598
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to do another drive in up at the

599
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: Transit drive in like I did during the season in April.

600
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: My big football camp that we're hoping to have, you know,

601
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: four hundred kids at UM will be at our indoor

602
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: facility in June. Again, all of this is assuming that, uh,

603
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: we're allowed to do this socially distance which indoor facility

604
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: like that? Which indoor facility was that? Which indoor the

605
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill the field house? Yeah, sorry, in our in

606
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: our field house. Um. And so that's some of the

607
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: stuff that's that's happening. Um. Obviously in Buffalo we'll be

608
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: working with the police department, at the fire department, a

609
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: local animal rescues. I think at my camp this year, UM,

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00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: I want to have a bunch of dogs there that

611
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: are rescue dogs, and if any of our playmaker kids

612
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: and families want one, I'll pay the adoption fee so

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00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: that they can have, uh, you know, an animal, you know,

614
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: just a just a bunch of stuff. But I think

615
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: what uh maybe separates me from some of the other

616
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: competition here for the Walter Payton Man of the Year.

617
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: And again it's it's already a blessing just to receive

618
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: the honor, but it's not just like a one big thing.

619
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Speaker 1: I did you know it wasn't a one million dollar

620
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: donation to a children's hospital or a big event that

621
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: raised a five hundred thousand dollars. I like to say

622
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: that my heart isn't biased, and there's so many causes

623
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: that I care about. Any good story that I hear about,

624
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I want to I want to give to. If that's

625
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: O'shys Child's Hospital, if that's working with the VA for

626
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: them the veterans. You know, you're heading the charge to

627
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: get five hundred thousand dollars for the WiFi for the

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00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: inner city schools. You know, I have a lot of

629
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: love to give and I'm just super thankful for the

630
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: community that we have of there, as you guys know

631
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: it is. It is truly special. And then just and

632
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: you mentioned the driving event that you did up at

633
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: the Transit Drive, in which you know, you want to

634
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: talk about a challenge. It was as big a challenge

635
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: in playing football this year. But then you think about

636
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: all all these guys around the league, like yourself, who

637
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: are trying to organize community type events, you know, to

638
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: raise money for your foundation or for whatever cause you represent.

639
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: And I mean you want to talk about having to

640
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: get creative, you guys had to do it like to

641
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: the umteenth degree. So maybe walk me through the committee

642
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: meetings that you had to kind of do on zoom

643
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: obviously because you're restricted. You can't even be at your

644
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: own events because of the protocols you have to follow.

645
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: At one Bill's Drive, maybe just walk us through how

646
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: much more challenging it was for you and your respective

647
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: foundation to committee to come up with answers and solutions

648
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: to still do the kind of work you want to do. Yeah,

649
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, the first thing I would say is a

650
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: lot more people have my phone number now than I thought, would,

651
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, because I wanted to FaceTime this kid or

652
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: this family for the holidays, or these kids who were

653
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: at my camp. So a lot of people have my number.

654
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I get a couple of random calls here and there

655
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: from playmakers, friends at school or whatever it is. But yeah,

656
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: you had to get creative. And when my transit, the

657
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: driving thing I did, we had that plan that I

658
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: was going to be there, and then the two days

659
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: before my event is when the thing happened in with

660
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: the Raiders and they they came out and said no

661
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: more community protocols, right, yeah, and so so we had

662
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: to scramble last minute. But obviously technology makes this so amazing.

663
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm in Tampa, Florida and we're doing this interview right here.

664
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: So um, that's been a blessing for us. But yeah,

665
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: you had to get creative. You had to find ways.

666
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: Even for the holiday season. You know, I wanted to

667
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: do my big toy drive in person, but instead we

668
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: had to you know, I myself had to go, um,

669
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, purchase presence for my my playmaker kids and

670
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: had another person have to go drop them off at

671
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: their doors. So I wasn't able to be there to

672
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: see them and meet it and had to be on

673
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: zoom on a phone, and you had to you had

674
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: to get creative. But um, you know, we made it

675
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: work and in an environment when unfortunately a lot of

676
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: nonprofits and five oh one C three's you know, had

677
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: to collapse or fold it in. Um, it's so sad

678
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: to say they just didn't have the funds to operate.

679
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: This is a year that the my organization actually grew

680
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: and the money that I'll received from this Walter Payton

681
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Man of the Year nomination is going to come right

682
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: back and Western New York and provide us. Um, you know,

683
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: so many things that we could do. I would love

684
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: if the MVP, um, you know, the Playmaker Award at

685
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: my camp. I would love if I could bring him

686
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and his family to the Super Bowl next year with

687
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: some of the funds that have come from this. And

688
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: so the more money you bring in, the more donations

689
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: I get from Western New York, the more unbelievable cool

690
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: things that we can do. And UM, it's a blessing

691
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: to be in this position. Well, we certainly congratulate you

692
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: on all that's going on. We'll be watching tonight to

693
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: see if you indeed can win the national honor. And

694
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: Saturday Saturday, Yeah, Saturday and um and once again we

695
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And Bill's Mafia love you. I gotta talk

696
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: to you about the season. It was a phenomenal year

697
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: for us to watch. Um. Usually there'd be one or

698
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: two times where you come in and sit with us

699
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: in studio. Um, and even us, you know, even us

700
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: being part of the Bill's thing, we didn't have we

701
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: couldn't have any players on as guests or anything. We

702
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: were all right, So talk to us a little bit about, Um,

703
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: what you guys. You know, in the locker room, when

704
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: you guys are sitting there talking about how difficult and

705
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: how different it is, you're relating it to the rookies

706
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: about and they must know how how odd it was

707
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: as well. And in the midst of all that, you

708
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: guys had a fantastic season. What was the vibe at

709
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: what was the vibe like in the locker room towards

710
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: the end of this season as you were headed deep

711
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Yeah, well, um, that the whole on

712
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: a mission thing. It truly was the case. I mean,

713
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: we really were had one goal in mind and that

714
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: was to compete to win the Super Bowl, and so

715
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: everyone's got a saltiness to them that we're not all

716
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: down here as a team right now. But I think

717
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: one of the things that hurt the most people probably

718
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: don't think about, is it was so hard being you know,

719
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: you guys, know, when you're part of a winning team,

720
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: that's when it's the most fun to be with the

721
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: guys and be hanging out and going to you know,

722
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: have dinner together as a unit, or the defense or

723
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: the offense or rookie dinners and all that stuff. And unfortunately,

724
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: in a year that we had our best season in

725
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: a long time, we couldn't even see one person outside

726
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: of the building. And that was so hard because you know,

727
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: you're at brand, you have a big win, and hey,

728
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do after the game. I'm gonna

729
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: go home and watch the Sunday night game by myself.

730
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: Like that was a really difficult part. It was challenging,

731
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: and so I commend all of our our teammates and

732
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: the people that we have in the building because we

733
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: were a close group with a lot of new faces,

734
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot of young faces, and we still found, you know,

735
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: our team identity and had had team love for one

736
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: another without being able to have those fun moments outside

737
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: the building. So that those are some of the unique

738
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: challenges that we had to come over this year, and

739
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: it you know, hopefully this is only going to make

740
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: us even stronger and tougher as a team. I know

741
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: that you know your season was an exercise in getting

742
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: back to one hundred percent or what you felt was,

743
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred percent of your capabilities after you know,

744
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: the knee surgeries you underwent in the off season. So

745
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: when did you did you get to a point this

746
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: season where you said, you know what, I really start

747
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: to feel like myself again. I know this wasn't the

748
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: first time you've been through a rehab like this, because

749
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: you did this in college also, But was there was

750
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: there a game or a week where you said, you

751
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: know what, I'm finally feeling like myself again. You know,

752
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: the first time we played the Patriots, I think was

753
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: the first time that I was in there and anchoring

754
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: on hard double to you know, that kind of twenty

755
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: one personnel twelve personnel fullbacks in the game, that hard pounding.

756
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: That was kind of the first time I really felt

757
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: better and I just kind of come off of the

758
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: period where I had some downtime and didn't play in

759
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: a couple of games, and you know, as unfortunate as

760
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: that was and devastating to have that happen, it was

761
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: probably needed in terms of my body. I had been

762
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: going a full year of rehab. You know, I didn't

763
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: get a single weekend off from all the way back

764
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: to January, and so you know, it took those time

765
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: off and then back for the Patriots game, I felt

766
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: like I was really coming to myself, and then you know,

767
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: down down the stretch there, you're just further removed from

768
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: the injury. And so I'm extremely optimistic about next season.

769
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, I got to recover stuff from this year.

770
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: There's still bumps and loses and little things that I'm

771
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: still feeling my body right now, but you know, football

772
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: seasons a long way away, and when I get back

773
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: to there, I believe I'll have the doctor's blessings to

774
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: take off the knee braces, which are also a big

775
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: hindrance and your athletic ability. And so I'm really hoping

776
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: that I can prove to everybody on our team and

777
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: our staff that I can be a major contributor to

778
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: us just like I did down there in the stretch

779
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, the last one for me, Harrison. I

780
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: know it is probably very early in this process, but

781
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: how optimistic or what information have you heard inside your

782
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: circles about how much maybe back to normal this offseason

783
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: might be, not just for you and your injury and

784
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: your rehab and how different it would have was going

785
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: to be from last year, but also about the league wide.

786
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: How deep does this go with more and more protocols

787
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: and being socially distant and all that. What are you

788
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: guys looking forward to? Yeah, well, you know, our our

789
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: president of the Union came out with a pretty a

790
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: pretty big statement a little over a month ago that said, hey,

791
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: let's look at this year. We proved a lot. There

792
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: was obviously some injury things that we still need to

793
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: look at and get the data from. But we had

794
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: high scoring football games, exciting football games. We had rookies

795
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl. First time head coaches have success,

796
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: the least amount of penalties in football, least amount of

797
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: mistackles when you compare it to other years, which are

798
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: huge things on coaches radar, saying if we don't have

799
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: OTAs our mistackles, our fundamentals, Well, the numbers show that

800
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: actually wasn't the case, and so our president of our

801
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: union came out and said, we need to reevaluate what

802
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: the off season looks like all together. We had zerotas

803
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: in person this last year, and we had a heck

804
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: of a football season all around. Just you know, the

805
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: NFL league wide proved that they can kind of do

806
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: this model. So not only will I think the off

807
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: season look different because we still are going to obviously

808
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: have to have some COVID protocols, you know, the world

809
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: isn't completely going to be open in mid April, but

810
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: also you know, there's raises question of how necessary are

811
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: the full OTA period. Could there be a four week

812
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: period that people come back for and it's shortened, or

813
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: can we do this virtual model where people are proving

814
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: that they're working out and doing the OTA meetings from

815
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: a different location. So these are a lot of things

816
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: that the NFL and the NFLPA are going to go back.

817
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: This would have to be an amendment to the CBA,

818
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: like we did last year when this stuff was at

819
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: the forefront. So those are conversations that are going to

820
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: be had, and I do think that this offseason is

821
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: not going to look like eight twenty and eighteen offseason.

822
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a hybrid between nothing

823
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: at all and what a normal one would look like.

824
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: So hopefully that benefits not only the teams but also

825
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: the player's health and safety. All right, Harrison, listen, thanks

826
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: very much for the time. We'll be watching on Saturday,

827
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: so good luck. We hope your name's the one that's

828
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: in the envelope they open up, because we know that

829
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: means good things, not only for you, but for all

830
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: of your community efforts. Because you said them. A lot

831
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: of money's coming right back to Western New York. And

832
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: if you ever have something you want to pump up

833
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: and get the word out on, we're on rad in

834
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: TV here and not only Buffalo, but Rochester. We're more

835
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: than happy to get the word out for you. So

836
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: don't hesitate to ring us up. We'll be happy to

837
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: promote anything you got coming on in the future here,

838
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: all right? Yeah? Absolutely, And hey, what do we say

839
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: next year? This time we're all down in LA I

840
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: think Super Bowl, So let's let's try to do that.

841
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh I like that Saturday. Thank you guys, appreciate it,

842
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: all right, that's Harrison Phillips, Bill's defensive tackle joining us

843
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. And you know, I think

844
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: I was most influenced. I mean, there's a lot of

845
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: good guys in that locker room steam as you well know. Um,

846
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's kind of hart purer than

847
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean he is. Just his community efforts

848
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: are like they're shotgun like. Yeah, they just I mean,

849
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: just tentacles everywhere in the Western New York community from

850
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: this guy. And this is not something that he started

851
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: doing when he got to the NFL. He was doing

852
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: this Stanford at a level that I have never seen

853
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: before from a college player. So uh, I mean you,

854
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of people that are deserving.

855
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: This guy deserved to be the nominee for the Bills

856
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: for Walter Payton Man of the Year. And I mean

857
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: a lot of guys do a lot of great stuff

858
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: on this roster, but man, he covers a lot of

859
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: ground for one man. He really does. He doesn't like

860
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: he loves it and doesn't like it's his job. That's

861
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: and in a year like this to get all that done,

862
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. Yeah, And I didn't get to cover

863
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: this with him. But I remember him in an interview

864
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: with the media, you know, people were talking to him

865
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: about his knee rehab and everything, and he said, yeah,

866
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: he goes when I would have my dark days, because

867
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: every long rehabilitation has your good days and your bad days.

868
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: And whenever he started, you know, getting into that pit

869
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: of despair, he said he would go. He would go

870
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: to Oshi Children's hospital, he go check in with kids,

871
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: he goes, and you really get he called that his medicine,

872
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: going to see the kids because it gave him perspective.

873
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: You know, He's like, here, I am feeling sorry for

874
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: myself with his knee injury that I'm rehabbing every single day,

875
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: and then I go talk to a ten year old

876
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: who's got terminal cancer. He's like, it puts it in

877
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: perspective real quick. Yeah, And that's just his mindset. And

878
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, as valuable a player as he

879
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: is on the field, my gosh, I mean heart of

880
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: gold off the field, without questions. So nothing but the

881
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: best of luck we wish to Harrison. It's so ironic

882
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: that his Twitter name is Horrible Harry because he is

883
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: the exact opposite in real life. Heart of gold on

884
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: that guy, and he's always welcome on this show to

885
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: spread his community efforts and get the word out to

886
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: get the support of the public. So uh yeah, be

887
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: sure to watch the NFL Honors show tomorrow night. Hopefully

888
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Harry's name is called as the Walter Payton Man of

889
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: the Year. We have to step aside, take a break

890
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: back in a moment here on One Bill's Live presented

891
00:45:44,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio actually to live

892
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: first steam pastor with you. And we neglected to mention

893
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that if you're interested in Harrison Phillips Playmakers Foundation, you

894
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: can go to Harrison Phillips dot org or the Playmakers

895
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: dot org for more information on his community efforts and

896
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: his foundation. If you want to subscribe, if you want

897
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: to contribute, it's all there online Harrison Phillips dot org

898
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: or the Playmakers dot org. And you know, you run

899
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: down the list of the nominees for each team for

900
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: that award and all the stuff these guys do, it's

901
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. Um yeah, it's it's just I know, and

902
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: I know they're you know, they're bad apples in every population,

903
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: but the lead even when I played the league's full

904
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: of outstanding guys, just phenomenal people. They work hard, they're pros,

905
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: they're smart, and you know, it's just no fun to

906
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: read about that stuff. For me, it's more entertained to

907
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: read about the Rex. I get it. But the least

908
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: just full of people like that, both as coaches, administrators,

909
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: staff members, and of course players. So it's yeah, and

910
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: and Harrison is typical of where those He's not typical,

911
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: he's he's more than just tipical, but he certainly is

912
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: an example. Now, Steve, I don't know if you're aware

913
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: of this, but as you know, Jay Harris, our our

914
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: fine producer, is a guy that was teasing you a

915
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: bit yesterday for your grunge. Look when you came in

916
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: with your with your blue and black plaid. I'm loving

917
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: that thing jackets got. That thing was so I had

918
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: to I put it on for a minute. I had

919
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: to take it out. It was so hot. It's very

920
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: it's it was so that's an insulator for sure. It

921
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: was one of my new favorite pieces of CLU. But

922
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that you may not be

923
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: aware of this, but I saw it. I like he

924
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: took it a step further. He put it out and

925
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: put it out on the One Bill's Live Twitter account

926
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: saying when it's casual Friday, but it might be chilly,

927
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: and then asked our list and viewers to send in

928
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: their best captions below. So let me just recap. J

929
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: Jay Harris first of all said I want you to

930
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: wear that on the next segment. Yeah. He totally set

931
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: you up, right, total set up, so I couldn't resist.

932
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: I jumped in and I went quote, my wife's out

933
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: of town and she usually lays out my clothes in

934
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: the morning. Somebody decided to respond with the church Lady

935
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: shanea Carvey character from Saturday Night Live Wire, Isn't that special?

936
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Somebody said I want a burrito this big because she

937
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: had your hands out, which I thought was was clever.

938
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: And then they then One Bills Live follows up with

939
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: the footage of you devouring a burrito in two minutes

940
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: and forty five seconds, which one of my one of

941
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 1: the highlights of the year. I would think, yes show,

942
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: oh absolutely. Howard Simon on the Morning Show on WGR

943
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: texted me afterwards and said, please let me know the

944
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: next time you film footage of Steve eating anything. He

945
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: was supremely entered tank. You should have filming with my

946
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: brisket subdistance, right, Yeah, we should have made that burrito

947
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: look like an appetize. Another another caption, when you've got

948
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: to run to a paper towel commercial shoot right after work.

949
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: They're obviously comparing here to the brawny character when you

950
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: take chopping wood with Eric Wood too literally, So you

951
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: know lumberjack reference there. If you don't know the song,

952
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: google it. You won't be disappointed. Steve, I'm a lumberjack

953
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: and I'm okay is apparently the song I'm not quite

954
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: sure what to do with my hands Ricky Bobby from

955
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: the Talladega Nights movie. Haven't heard much from Kyle Williams

956
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: this year. Miss his insight thought I might think about

957
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: chopping wood later. There is much wood to be chopped

958
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: after the show. What it's my lumberjack? Look? Yeah, I

959
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: got skills. What you're gonna do about it? I beat

960
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Brownie at a game of checkers, and all I got

961
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: was this shirt. I pick things up, I put them down.

962
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: I forgot the eggs, but at least I got the bread,

963
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: which just about any man has done coming home from

964
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: the store. I'm a lumberjack and that's okay. Yeah, the

965
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: brawny stuff was the one that took the cake there

966
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: for sure. So that was like the look. I was

967
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: pretty happy with the responses from our listening, So good

968
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: on you guys for doing that. Nice to any gave

969
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: an excuse to roll out that burrito footage. Yeah, so

970
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: just beware when Jay Harris asked you to do anything

971
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: on set going forward, because he's unbelieving in all likelihood,

972
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: it is a setup. Have you no shame? Oh he doesn't.

973
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: So that's why we trust him. Break time for us.

974
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: But when we come back, we are going to get

975
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: into the obl fan mail bag to answer some of

976
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: your questions, whether it's about the team, the salary cap,

977
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: the roster, offseason plans, the super Bowl, the league at large.

978
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: We'll add through it all here. Next on One Bill's

979
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio at

980
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all all of the fields.

981
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

982
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: fighters for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

983
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: in the strategere of normalcy. Here our number two of

984
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: a Friday edition of One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve

985
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: Tasker with you, and Friday means one thing for you,

986
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: the listener and the viewer and the Bills fan. In

987
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 1: most cases, it's the obl Fan Friday mail Bag, where

988
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Steve and I answer any questions you might have as

989
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: we head into the twenty twenty one off season. And

990
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna lead off with Tiffany here, who asks the following, Steve,

991
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: what do you think the chances are that the league

992
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: moves to a seventeen or eighteen game regular season with

993
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: the potential of zero preseason games. I would say not

994
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: two seventeen, yes, zero preseason games. No, you probably get

995
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: down to two. Or it might be that if the

996
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: players Union said they're gonna move to a seventeen game schedule,

997
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of an already done deal. So if the league,

998
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: if the players Union says, hey, we don't want any

999
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: presea we don't want any of this, like we were

1000
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: talking to Harrison Filips just a minute ago, the league

1001
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: may say, Okay, I'll tell you what. We'll give you

1002
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: everything we want in the offseason, no OTAs, none of

1003
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: that stuff. You come in. You have an acclamation period.

1004
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: We do this. We have two preseason games, but we

1005
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: want eighteen game schedule instead of seventeen. Yeah, because we

1006
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: can already go seventeen. And I think they do it

1007
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: baby steps, don't you think. I think they go seventeen

1008
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: this year and I think they go I think they

1009
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: could get him down to two preseason games, yeah, and

1010
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: then have two buys. They don't need to do that.

1011
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, it's the Steve Tasker plan. I'm

1012
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: told you if I've been harping on this for years.

1013
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Eighteen game regular season schedule. You start a couple of

1014
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: weeks before, you start a couple a month before Labor Day,

1015
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: two preseason games, two regular season games league wide by

1016
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: over the Labor Day high holiday holiday. Just take two

1017
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: weeks off for everybody. Nobody's on TV over Labor Day

1018
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: holiday everything. It becomes a tradition. After that, you resume

1019
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: your you resume your season and bye weeks as normal.

1020
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: That way they can get it started. You don't have

1021
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: to go to February twentieth right for the Super Bowl.

1022
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: If it stays in the first week of February. You

1023
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: start earlier, the preseason's going on. You have much more,

1024
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: you have more good weather fit games. What do we

1025
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: calling that though? That's a Steve task. That is the

1026
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: Tasker plan, much like the Marshall plan, but only more important. Wow,

1027
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm teasing, but yeah, I think it'll be it'll be seven.

1028
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: A smart move. I'm telling you're gonna be building it

1029
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: into the new media, right steal. Yeah. I should see

1030
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: them trying to push for eighteen, but I don't think

1031
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: they want to bite off more than they can chew

1032
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: right now. So I think they they push seventeen games through,

1033
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: they reduce the preseason. Whether it gets down to two

1034
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: games remains to be seen. I think it's definitely three,

1035
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: probably definitely three. Good chance of being down to two

1036
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: because I think in the end coaches are going to

1037
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: stand on the table and say, I at least need

1038
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: to look at guys that have a chance to be

1039
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: on the back half of my roster. I need to

1040
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: see them in action. Yeah, I get it, so, of course.

1041
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: But two games is plenty, Yeah, plenty. And if you

1042
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: throw them, if you start everything like they have for decades,

1043
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: exchange the last two preseason games for two regular season

1044
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: games and then give them every whole. See, you have

1045
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: the two preseason games, two regular season games, and then

1046
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: you got a week period to kind of like, Okay,

1047
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: here's where we're at. We've had two games that count.

1048
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Let's reset, or let's here's how we do our roster.

1049
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: Here's we gets a couple of guys healthy that we're

1050
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: hurting training camp or whatever, and away we go with

1051
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: a regular sixteen game schedule after a bye week. It's perfect.

1052
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: What kind of argument does that create for larger active

1053
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: rosters more than fifty three players, like fifty five or

1054
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: you gotta believe that. GMS in person alex X across

1055
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: the league loved the expanded practice squads loved it. They

1056
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: loved it, and the only problem with it is is

1057
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: the expense of it. Well, true, because you gotta pay

1058
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: these guys. Yes, this is not this in college football

1059
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: right there, if you're if they're in the building, they're

1060
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: getting paid. Coaches to coaches love it because it affords

1061
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: them more roster flexibility. If injury strikes, they have answers

1062
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: at the ready, guys that have been there, right, guys

1063
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: that have been practicing. No, that's always been the issue

1064
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: with football. It's too complicated. It's not hockey, it's not basketball, baseball,

1065
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: for sure, you can't just plug a guy in, play him,

1066
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: pull him back out. You got to have an acclamation period.

1067
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: The union loves it because it means more jobs for

1068
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: more guys. The owners don't like it because it means

1069
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: they're paying more people exactly. So it's gonna be interesting

1070
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: to see where that land. There's a lot more to

1071
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: it than just the paycheck too. There's you know, insurance, liability, insurance, travel,

1072
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: there's all the infrastr Yeah, so I get that it's

1073
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: going to be more expensive, but think about it, it's

1074
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: twelve percent more product on the field. Yeah, twelve percent

1075
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: on top of a fifteen billion dollars getting not the

1076
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: last one was fifteen billion. One of them was now

1077
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: extra inventory. It's it's twelve percent on top of fifteen

1078
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, that's an extra billion dollars because you got

1079
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: two weekends that you know, it's an extra thirty two games,

1080
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: sixty four games, and the networks will be happy to

1081
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: not have to air. Well, not that the networks air,

1082
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: but there's two fewer preseason games, which means there's two

1083
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: more weeks one more at least potentially two more weeks

1084
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: of regular season inventory to air as well. So yeah,

1085
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it'll eventually get to eighteen, but

1086
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: I think rosters are going to have to increase in size,

1087
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: and there may have to be expanded rosters with respect

1088
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: to the practice squad, which is already at twelve players. Now, yeah,

1089
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: they might get even large. The practice squad and the

1090
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: different IR designations where you could be out three weeks,

1091
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: and remember the COVID thing gave him a three week

1092
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: window instead of an eight or six or eight week

1093
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: window for being on IR. I think the freedom to

1094
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: move players around really helped a lot of teams, not

1095
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: just with COVID but also with injuries and knicks cuts Brusie.

1096
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: It gave them some flexibility and game planning. As we've

1097
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: noticed me when we were doing these games on the radio,

1098
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: we'd be up in the booth and say, well, listen,

1099
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: if if this guy's active, that tells us something. But

1100
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, if he's not and this other guy is,

1101
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: that gives him an entirely different look offensively. You know

1102
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot going into it. So if you go

1103
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: from four tight ends active to two tight ends active,

1104
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: and go from five wide receivers to seven wide receivers,

1105
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: that tells you something about what your offensive game plan

1106
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: is and it also gives you the ability to do

1107
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: something different offensively. So coaches love that for the gamesmanship

1108
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: and for the flexibility it gives them. I'm just yeah.

1109
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: So I think that is an enormous carrot, both for

1110
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: the owners and for the union to make some changes

1111
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: that benefit both sides. I think going eighteen games is

1112
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: the way to go, starting them earlier in the season,

1113
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: two preseason games, and give the players still something in

1114
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: the back end, give them more jobs, and give him

1115
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: some more free time. It's a brownie. The Tasker plan

1116
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: is a win win. Could I could jump on board.

1117
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: I could be allowed beast for you? You You you let

1118
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: me know. From Nick t on the fan mail bag,

1119
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: I have a question for Chris, and I'm sorry if

1120
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: you've answered it before, but if you grew up in

1121
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: the greater New York City area where you're a Jets

1122
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: or Giants fan, originally no judgment. Yeah, I'm a I

1123
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island, and as I've told Steve before,

1124
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: New York is a baseball town first, and my dad

1125
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: was a baseball junkie. So I grew up a baseball fan,

1126
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: and I was I was a Yankees fan growing up,

1127
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: even though I grew up on Long Island, which is

1128
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: usually Mets territory. But when baseball season was over, I

1129
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: would watch other sports, you know, and you know, the

1130
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Jets and Giants were on every week, and I kind

1131
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: of resented the Giants because they moved out of Yankee Stadium,

1132
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: I want to say, in seventy nine, and I was like,

1133
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: where the heck are they going? They're going to New Jersey.

1134
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: What a bunch of losers? Like? I didn't. I didn't

1135
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: like it at all, and so I would root for

1136
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, but I didn't. I wasn't like a died

1137
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: in the wool like je That's fan. My favorite player

1138
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: growing up was Walter Payton. Loved Walter Payton just his

1139
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: running style. Never ran out of bounds. I remember. We

1140
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: used to Me and my buddies used to make fun

1141
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: of Franco Harris because we thought he was a wood

1142
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: He'd always run out of bounds instead of taking an

1143
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: extra hit, trying to get the extra yard. And Walter man,

1144
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: that guy would lower his head, he and care if

1145
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: you or a defensive tackle or a safety. I might

1146
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: have told you, but sometime I got a Walter Payton's story.

1147
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: I think you did tell me the Walter Payton story.

1148
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I remember I told Wade Phillips

1149
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: that one time when he was coaching the Bills that

1150
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: Walter Payton or he hearded me on the air say

1151
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: something about how Walter Payton was my favorite player growing up.

1152
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: And he came up to me after a practice one

1153
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: day He's like, I heard you know, Waltery. So he

1154
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: told me the story about how when he was coaching

1155
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: with his dad with the Saints the day that Walter

1156
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: Payton broke Jim Brown's record was against the Saints in Chicago.

1157
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And so after the game, which the Bears won,

1158
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: Walter went over to the Saints locker room after the

1159
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: game to say hello, and Wade Phillips said, he, well,

1160
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: he would shake your hand and hug you because he

1161
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: was a big hugger. But he said, I've shook a

1162
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: lot of hands in my day. He said, he damn

1163
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: near broke my hand shaking my hand. Like he said,

1164
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: it was the firmest handshake he had ever had in

1165
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: his life. Now think about this. This is a guy

1166
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: that grew up around football. I mean, Earl Campbell, you know,

1167
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: Ray Childress guys like that. He was around, and he

1168
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: called Walter Payton's handshake the firmest and stiffest he's ever

1169
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: had in his life. But yeah, I didn't. I didn't really.

1170
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't like I would watch the games if they

1171
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: were on, you know, most I would gravitate more to

1172
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: the Jets because every the separation in New York, at

1173
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: least historically between Jets and Giants was this. The Giants

1174
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: were like the ritzy fan, wine and cheese crowd, right,

1175
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of like forty nine Ers

1176
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: and Raiders forty nine ers, wine and cheese crowd, hoity

1177
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: toity fans, upper crusted, all that stuff. And the Jets

1178
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: were like the blue collar fans, like the Raiders fans

1179
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: like the Raiders fan. So I identified more with the Jets.

1180
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was a fan per se, but

1181
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: I love the sack Exchange. Teams were fun to watch

1182
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: because you know it's Joe Cleco, Gaston, Abdul Salam, Marty Lions.

1183
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean that was a group that was a group. Man,

1184
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: Wesley Walker, I mean just an entertaining athlete. Guy was

1185
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: blind in one eye. Wesley Walker. I didn't know this

1186
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: unbelievable career for a guy that only saw one no

1187
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: depth perception, How the hell did he do that? I

1188
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: was fascinated by that as a kid, and Freeman McNeil

1189
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: was a guy that caught my eye. I kind of

1190
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: gravitated to the running backs as a kid. But yeah,

1191
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't really a fan per se, but I definitely

1192
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: would say I followed the Jets more than the Giants

1193
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: growing up. But I was baseball first, basketball second, and

1194
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: football was like an afterthought because the New York Islanders

1195
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: were killing it back then, four cups in a row,

1196
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: and I was on that train. Big time football. It's

1197
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: like the fourth sport for me growing up, which is

1198
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: crazy now you know, look at where I am. But yes,

1199
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: that that's kind of how it went from Maddie. My

1200
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: one question, what will Tom Brady and the Bucks have

1201
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: to do to win on Sunday? Take this one, Steve.

1202
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks they're certainly gonna have to score

1203
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: at a higher I think they got a score and

1204
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: I think they've got to be I think they've got

1205
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: a score on if there's twelve possessions in a game,

1206
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to score on eight or ten of them.

1207
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: I think they just got a few goals. Well, I

1208
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: think they just gotta squash the pocket for Mahomes. I mean,

1209
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: I think Barrett and Pierre Paul may have some answers.

1210
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: I think they sacked him five times when they played him,

1211
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: and they still lost the game. Let's not forget that.

1212
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: But what do you think do you think? Because here's

1213
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: the thing, Vita Vea is back, he's gonna play. Yeah. Um,

1214
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, Pierre Paul, Um, I

1215
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: don't know, like Barrett and Doma Consue and Vita Vea

1216
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: up front, I don't know that you can beat the

1217
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs defensively. Yeah, you know you know what I mean. Yeah,

1218
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that your defense can win the game

1219
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: for you against those guys. I think your offense has

1220
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: got to do its job. I think I don't know

1221
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: about eight or ten. Yeah, four field goals to be

1222
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: sixty and you know I'm talking that makes you. Yeah,

1223
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: it can't be eight or ten. But you gotta you

1224
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: gotta be highly efficient. You gotta have at least five touchdowns, bro,

1225
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you gotta have at least five five touchdowns

1226
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: and whatever. Grady gravy or kicker can muster up. That's right,

1227
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: and that plus you've got to do that, and you've

1228
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: got to keep a lid on it. You can't give

1229
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: him any long plays. You gotta make him go the

1230
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: long way. None of these seventy one yard non scoring

1231
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: plays from Tyreek Hill snapping off a seventy one yard

1232
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: play and you know, down to the eight right, you

1233
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: can't give up. They can't do They are so good

1234
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: at running, cannot do that missdirection. I was watching Peyton

1235
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: Manning series which is called Details. Well it's not his series.

1236
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: There's an ESPN Plus series called Details, and they have

1237
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: various former NFL players break things down. They have a

1238
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: redo it Peyton Manning bunch of guys, And so Peyton

1239
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: Manning was breaking down the end around run by Tyree

1240
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: Hill against the Bills in the AFC Championship game that

1241
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: went for like seventy one yards, and they showed all

1242
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: the miss Peyton's dicing up, all the misdirection before the snap,

1243
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: and they actually had Travis Kelsey on the left side

1244
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: of the formation. He bends back pre snap and and

1245
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: then he doubles back the other way. They pull the

1246
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: center and the left tackle out to the left, while

1247
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: they have two other linemen pulling to the right and

1248
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: show run motion to the right, so everybody's going leaning

1249
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: that way. And then Hill comes back the other way

1250
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: on the reverse, and he's got two linemen in front

1251
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: of him, and the only defensive player on the right

1252
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: side of the field for the Bills is Micah Hyde.

1253
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: So it's two offensive linemen and Tyreek Hill against Micah Hyde.

1254
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, Micah Hyde played it perfectly.

1255
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: He just kept giving up ground, retreating, retreating, retreating, forcing

1256
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: the linemen to come thirty forty yards down field, and

1257
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher got a hand on him to kind of

1258
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: try to block him out of bounds, but Micah was

1259
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 1: able to kind of sidestep him and at least force

1260
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill out of bounds. It wasn't otherwise it's a touchdown, right.

1261
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Mica Hyde he couldn't have done anything

1262
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: else on that play but keep giving up ground to

1263
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: at least get him tackled and out of bounds. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't been watching what's going on down in Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 1: because you know you're not interested. Tyreek Hill had some

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Speaker 1: things to say about what was going on in that

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Speaker 1: game on the on the and this is the Mikole

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Speaker 1: Hardman two lineman and it's Micah Hyde. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: given up ground and then he finally gets his lag.

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Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't do that. Hill's gone, Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: does not Hill that sub Hardman. Sorry. On the play

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Speaker 1: before that, we were talking about the misdirection, Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: was talking about what was going on in that play

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Speaker 1: and he called out he didn't know his name, Justin Zimmer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Zimmer, who's a defensive crackle. He goes, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe it. That guy's he's rolling. Yeah, And we'll we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that sound in one of the shorter segments

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Speaker 1: that we have coming up here. Because Tyreek Hill tipped

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Speaker 1: his head to Justin Zimmer, who we clocked with next

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Speaker 1: Gen stats or those trackers they have, and everybody's in

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Speaker 1: everybody's jerseys at eighteen miles per hour back in like

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Speaker 1: week seven or eight of the season, probably he could

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Speaker 1: be two. Tyree couldn't believe how fast he was moving.

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll get to that a little bit later on

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Speaker 1: in the show. Tyree Hill tipping his hat to Justin

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01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: Zimmer and how fast that big guy can run. But

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Speaker 1: we got to take a break here because we've got

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Speaker 1: Greg co Sale from NFL Films coming up next to

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Speaker 1: kind of dice up the xs and o's of the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's next here on One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All go

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Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown seeks after with

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Speaker 1: you here on a Friday edition and joining us for

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Speaker 1: his weekly appearance to X and O this super Bowl

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Speaker 1: to death, which he's probably done twelve times over at

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Speaker 1: this point. Right, it's a senior producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: Greg co Sal, who can also find on the ESPN

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Speaker 1: NFL Matchup Show, And you guys are gonna probably be

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Speaker 1: doing a deep dive this weekend on the Matchup Show

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Speaker 1: right with the super Bowl. How many ways have you

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Speaker 1: sliced this, Greg, like seventeen ways? Well, you know, Chris,

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Speaker 1: this is one of those games. The Super Bowl is

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Speaker 1: always a game where we wish we could have an

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01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: hour and an hour and a half because a half

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Speaker 1: hour show on ESPN is twenty one minutes and that

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: never feels quite enough for what you can talk about

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Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl. And this one I think has

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Speaker 1: so many really interesting elements to it. Yeah, what's the

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Speaker 1: most one, what's the most interesting to you? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all get caught up in the Mahomes Brady thing

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Speaker 1: and all of that. What's the most interesting aspect of

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Speaker 1: it for you? Well, one of the most interesting to

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Speaker 1: me will be the Chiefs defense versus that Bucks offense

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Speaker 1: and Brady, because these teams played Week twelve and Spagnolo

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Speaker 1: the coordinator, was very aggressive with blitz, as he is

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Speaker 1: against everybody. That was not unique to the Bucks week twelve,

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Speaker 1: but he pressured a lot. He played snaps of cover zero.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the first two third downs of the game

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Speaker 1: for the Bucks offense backs came with zero blitz. I'm

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Speaker 1: very anxious to see how that plays out, because you

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Speaker 1: know Brady, he's great. That's not my point, but Brady

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: is not a second reaction quarterback. He will be in

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Speaker 1: the pocket and that's where he wins. Brady normally wins

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Speaker 1: before the ball is snapped. So to me, that angle

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Speaker 1: is one of the most intriguing in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: How many I don't mean to put you on the

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Speaker 1: spot with this, Greg, but how much do you recall

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Speaker 1: from the winning game plans that Spags put together in

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Speaker 1: those giant super Bowls, And is there any value or

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Speaker 1: merit to diving back into that a little bit on

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Speaker 1: his behalf in facing Brady this time, granted with a

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Speaker 1: much different roster, well, he was the coordinator in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven, note in two thousand and eleven, so

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Speaker 1: he only he beat Brady once in two thousand and eleven,

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Speaker 1: a two season in two thousand and seven, and that

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Speaker 1: was the Super Bowl that many people might recall where

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Speaker 1: he brought Justin Tuck inside to play defensive tackle and

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Speaker 1: essentially rushed with four It was not a high percentage

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Speaker 1: blitz game for Steve Spagnol and back then bringing a

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Speaker 1: defensive end inside to defensive tackle, which everybody does now,

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: but back then in two thousand and seven, that was

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Speaker 1: a little different. And as you guys probably recall, you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, that's the NASCAR front. Well, everybody has

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: a Nascar front now, that's just part of the game.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that means anything. Certainly, the

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Speaker 1: offense who was playing against with Brady and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: is a different offense than he's facing now with Brady

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks. It's a totally different offense in terms

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Speaker 1: of concepts and philosophy. What did we see in the

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Speaker 1: first matchup that you think we either a will never

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Speaker 1: see in this matchup or be we will probably see

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Speaker 1: a bunch more of We saw what happened with Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill in the first quarter of their first matchup. Obviously

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Speaker 1: obviously that they make Todd Bowles made some enormous adjustments.

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Speaker 1: So you know, right, so how do you think this

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Speaker 1: is going to start. We'll see Hill with thirteen for

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Speaker 1: two sixteen, which it seemed like you had all those

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Speaker 1: numbers in about the first five minutes. But you know,

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Speaker 1: there were third downs in that game, not many, but

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Speaker 1: they were third downs in that game in which Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowles doubled both Hill and Kelsey. And as you know, Steve,

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Speaker 1: you can double two, you can't double more than two

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Speaker 1: because you just don't have enough bodies, you know. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if Todd will take a look at the kinds

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Speaker 1: of things that Bill Belichick has done over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I remember a game I can't remember

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Speaker 1: who was a playoff game or a regular season game

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Speaker 1: where Belichick essentially doubled Hill on every play and Hill

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Speaker 1: only had one catch, but he didn't match up man

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Speaker 1: to man on Kelsey, and if memory serves him, he

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Speaker 1: did it with J. C. Jackson. Now you have to

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable if you're going to match up man to

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Speaker 1: man on Kelsey with who that is. And when teams

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Speaker 1: have two weeks, Steve and you're you're very aware of this,

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Speaker 1: sometimes teams do things differently than they did in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. So you know, I don't have any inside information,

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Speaker 1: but part of me thinks, hey, are there going to

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Speaker 1: be snaps where he might double Hill and put Carlton

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Speaker 1: Davis on Kelsey because Carlton Davis is a big corner

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Speaker 1: who can match up to a Kelsey. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen, but we know that

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles will not do the same thing he did

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Speaker 1: week twelve. And then just if in fact, you know,

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Speaker 1: doubles on Hill are part of the approach by the

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Speaker 1: Bucks defense. We've seen the Chiefs kind of counter that

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Speaker 1: by getting the ball in his hands in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: whether it's using you know, pre snap motion and misdirection

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Speaker 1: and then given it to him on an end around

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Speaker 1: which you know we saw Mikole Hardman do against the Bills,

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Speaker 1: not even Tyreek Hill with great success. Is that like

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Speaker 1: the counter punch that the Chiefs have in their arsenal

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Speaker 1: to kind of still get Hill involved if in fact

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Speaker 1: he gets neutralized on the passing routes. And that's a

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Speaker 1: great point, Chris, because you put him in the backfield

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Speaker 1: where you put him in motion, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: times he goes in motion and return earned motion. You know,

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Speaker 1: he goes in these multiple motions on plays, and it's

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Speaker 1: very hard to double a player doing that, or if

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Speaker 1: you're going to, you really have to declare it clearly

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Speaker 1: before the snap of the ball, and that gives Mahomes

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Speaker 1: pre snap information, which is what you're always trying to

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Speaker 1: get for your quarterback anyway. So that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: And Andy Reid's been doing this a long time. And

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Speaker 1: my sense is this is their second consecutive trip to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I think they're going to be very

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Speaker 1: aggressive throwing it. I think they're going to feel that, hey,

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Speaker 1: if we get ahead fourteen nothing or seventeen three, and

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Speaker 1: we make the Bucks totally one dimensional, then that's where

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Speaker 1: Spags's pressure schemes. That's even where the four man pressures

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Speaker 1: can be a factor. And there's another element to that

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Speaker 1: which we can get into in a moment. But I

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Speaker 1: think that the Chiefs, having been there before, now I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be very aggressive offensively. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen coaching staffs come to this Super Bowl if you

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01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: can remember back where they because the two week last

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Speaker 1: in between, do they kind of start to outsmart themselves.

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Speaker 1: They start to cut this thing up as many ways

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Speaker 1: as the media does, and they start to talk themselves

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Speaker 1: out of some things. I know it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: inside their minds, but yeah, some teams seem to show

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01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: up absolutely confident that what they're gonna what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: run is works, and then other teams show up and

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: you just get a different sense about what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Game plan. Yeah, my sense would be that Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: is past that. Steve Right, you know, he's been too.

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Speaker 1: He was in a Super Bowl in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four with the Eagles, he won it last year. He's

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Speaker 1: coached a lot of playoff games. I think Andy does

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting stuff just as part of what he does.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think he's gonna outsmart himself. Plus, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a factor this is.

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Speaker 1: You could certainly tell me more having been involved in

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01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Week and that whole thing. But they're in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. They're not in Tampa. This is not one

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Speaker 1: of those weeks where they've got a hundred commitments and

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Speaker 1: they're all over the place. I mean, this to them

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Speaker 1: is a normal week. When are they Chris, do you

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Speaker 1: know when they were even getting there? Either today or tomorrow? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They show up tomorrow. Yeah. So I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're not there probably helps them because

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Speaker 1: it's just, in a sense, a normal week in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City of going to practice. Greg, I'm curious about the

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Speaker 1: use of defensive backs in blitz packages this year. The

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Speaker 1: Bills and Leslie Fraser had to turn to it because

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01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: they were relatively ineffective rushing forward this year. They just

1446
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: they couldn't get home and so Leslie turned to his

1447
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: defensive backs to get there quicker. But we saw the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs blitz Josh Allen with defensive backs to get there faster.

1449
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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering going forward, with all the offseason study

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Speaker 1: that coaches around the league do and the COPYCEAD league

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Speaker 1: that it is, do you think going forward that Blitzing

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Speaker 1: defensive backs will be a more popular tactic against not

1453
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Speaker 1: only Josh Allen, but mobile quarter backs in general. There's

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Speaker 1: two answers I would give to that. Number one, I

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Speaker 1: think blitzing defensive backs can be a function of need.

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Speaker 1: As with the Bills, some teams and coordinators like to

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: rush for and in an ideal world, if they can,

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Speaker 1: they do others. It's a philosophy. They're going to do

1459
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Speaker 1: that regardless. Spagnolo is that kind of guy. But the

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Speaker 1: second part of your question is, I think you'll see

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Speaker 1: more of it for the simple reason that they're better

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Speaker 1: athletes and the quarterbacks that can move. You have a

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Speaker 1: chance now with an athlete who's arguably better or just

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Speaker 1: as good as a quarterback that can move of getting home.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I do. I think you've been seeing that

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Speaker 1: Chris more and more. Any way, I think that's become

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Speaker 1: part of the NFL. And the other reason you do

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Speaker 1: it too is offensive lineman can react to defensive backs

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Speaker 1: very well because for obvious reasons. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: think that that is some thing that we will see

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Speaker 1: more in the NFL. What do you think if there's

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Speaker 1: a player under the radar, I mean besides Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: Kelsey or you know Mahomes, Kelsey, Tye Hill or Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: who's an under the radar, perhaps a defensive guy who

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01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: could be the difference maker in this game that may

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: be off the radar for most fans. Well, I don't

1477
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: think he's off the radar, but I think Chris Jones

1478
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: is a big factor in this game. Obviously, there were

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Speaker 1: some we thought he should have been the MVP a

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01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: year ago. And the reason I mentioned that is because

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Speaker 1: one thing that the Chiefs defense does really well, even

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01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: when they rushed for and believe me, they don't plays

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01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: every play, is they will walk linebackers up on the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They do that a lot when they're

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01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: in nickel and diamond, they're in dime a lot. I

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01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: think over thirty five percent of their snaps this year,

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: they've had six defensive backs on the field, and one

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01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: thing they do is they'll walk their dime linebacker, who's

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01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: normally Ben Nieman, up on the line of scrimmage. And

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Speaker 1: what that does is it sets protection for the offense

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01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: and it creates one on ones for Chris Jones on

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: offensive guards. And that's an area in which I think

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01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a favorable matchup Chris Jones working against

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: the offensive guards for the Bucks. Flipping it over to

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: the Bucks defensive side of things. Much has been said

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01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: about Devin White and Lavante David as coverage players. What

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01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: is and maybe we can go back to the first

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Speaker 1: meeting as an example. How often were they used, if

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Speaker 1: at all, in coverage on Kelsey and do they have

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Speaker 1: the athleticism to at least turn to them some of

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01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: the time as coverage options on Kelsey? Are they athletic enough,

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01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: I guess is my question. Yeah, I don't think that's

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: going to be a big factor. I mean, David at

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01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 1: times will match up to tight ends. White not too often.

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01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,879
Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if you saw linebackers on Kelsey

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01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: very often in this game when the Bucks are in

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01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: man coverage. And I think that's going to be an

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: interesting element to this game because keep in mind, Elsie

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01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: is very often a detached player. Yes, are there snaps

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01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: in which he does line up on the line of

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01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 1: scrimmage next to the tackle shore, but he's a detached

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01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: player and that's another element to this game. He's very

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01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: often and they run this formation more than any team

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01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: in the league. He is very often the single receiver

1515
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,520
Speaker 1: to the short side of the field, on the backside

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01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: of trips, on the backside of three wide receivers, and

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01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: when they do that. In the first matchup, the Bucks

1518
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: kept a corner on him. They kept one of their

1519
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: corners on him. So Kelsey is not really a true

1520
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage tight end. He's much more of a

1521
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: detached player. I want to what do you feel like

1522
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: the situation with Kansas City's offensive line where both tackles

1523
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: are injured, Fisher's not going to be in there, and

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01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks They've got some formidable guys on the defensive line.

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01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that could be the difference in this game?

1526
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Even more so than their first matchup. They're going to

1527
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 1: have to dominate that matchup now. Having said that, Mahomes

1528
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: is arguably the best second reaction improvisational quarterback in the game.

1529
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: But they do have a big advantage with Jpp and

1530
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett. I believe it'll be Reremers at left tackle

1531
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: and Rankings at right tackle, and even with Sue and

1532
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,440
Speaker 1: Vita Vea inside, I think they can control the inside

1533
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,959
Speaker 1: to some degree so that they have to win that matchup.

1534
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 1: Their D line has to be dominant in this game.

1535
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: But of course, having said that, that doesn't mean that

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01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: Mahomes won't make second reaction plays. I remember having a

1537
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: great conversation with Dean ps this past summer, who's been

1538
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: in the league for years and years and just got

1539
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: rehired in Atlanta as the decoordinator, and he told me

1540
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: that when you play quarterbacks like Mahomes, it's there's two

1541
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: defensive plays. There's the first two seconds and then there's

1542
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: what happens after the two seconds, so there's almost two

1543
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: separate defensive plays. I wanted to kind of jump around

1544
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: the league a little bit, and I know, not far

1545
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: from where you are, there are a lot of Philly

1546
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: reporters kind of keeping their ear to the ground on

1547
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: whether Carson Wentz could be moving. And it seems like

1548
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: the cap implications be damned. They're convinced that something is afoot,

1549
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, Less Boning and guys like that, which which

1550
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: I know you know very well. I guess my question

1551
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: to you, though, Greg, is is there is Carson Wentz

1552
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback talent that would be fit be

1553
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: a fit in just about any system. I guess what

1554
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm asking is there really isn't a system where you

1555
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: couldn't put him in and he could succeed for you,

1556
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: provided he recaptures the form that he had a few

1557
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: years ago. Probably a fair statement. I think there's some

1558
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: systems that are better than others for him. I think

1559
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: at his core, he's much more of a guy who

1560
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: wants to push it down the field. You know, I

1561
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's one of those quick rhythm guys because

1562
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: he's long gangle. He's not the right word because that

1563
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: makes some seem uncore coordinated, but he's but he's a

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: big kid. He's a long athlete. I don't think he's

1565
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: twitchy in that way. So I think ultimately he's a

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01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: guy that wants to push it down the field when

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01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: he's playing at his best. We'll see what happens. My

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01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: senses based on who they hired, who Nick Soriani hired

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01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: as particularly as his quarterback coach, Brian Johnson came out

1570
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: of college. He's been with Dan Mullen, so he's been

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01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. You know, he's been without those kinds

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01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. I would think, and I'm just trying to

1573
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: read the tea leaves here no inside info. I would

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: think that they probably look at Jalen Hurts as their guy,

1575
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: and it would not surprise me if Carson Wentz was traded.

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01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: What happened to Carson Wentz? Ah, I mean, I can

1577
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: only tell you what the film shows, but that that's

1578
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: an organizational issue. You had a guy in twenty seventeen

1579
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 1: that would have been the league MVP and was talked

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: about as a top three back in the league. As

1581
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: recently as two years ago. I had a GM tell

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01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: me that Mahomes and Wins were the two most talented

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01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. Of course, this was before Josh

1584
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: became Josh, and I think he's actually the most physically

1585
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: gifted quarterback in the league right now. But the point

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01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: is is that Wentz has high level physical traits and

1587
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: somewhere along the line something went wrong. I'm not in

1588
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: the building. I can only tell you what the film

1589
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: shows that he didn't do well, but he's got high

1590
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: level traits. So now it's up to someone to pull

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01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: that out of him. Yeah, And I just the way

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: I look at it, I'm just saying to myself, there's

1593
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 1: got to be somebody out there, will be more probably

1594
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: be more than one offensive coordinator or head coach in

1595
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: the league with an ego big enough to say I

1596
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: can fix him. Well, how tall it's do you think

1597
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: that is? It's because what do you do if you're

1598
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: a team and let's say you have a higher draft choice.

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, and you know Carson Wentz has played well

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: in the league at a very high level. He obviously

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01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: did in this past year. But you know it's there

1602
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: on tape, You've seen it. So what do you do?

1603
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: Do you say, Okay, I'm gonna draft Wilson from BYU

1604
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: who's never played in the league and we really have

1605
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: no idea what he is, or do you trade that

1606
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: pick for Carson Wentz? I think that's a very interesting

1607
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: organizational question, is it? To the point now? Though, and

1608
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: we've been having this conversation, this is above my pay grade.

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01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm just the Rams mine too, believe me, Steve mind too.

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: That which is not going to stop us. Though. The

1611
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: Rams virtually paid the Detroit Lions to take Jared Goff's contract.

1612
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean they gave him Goff and draft picks to

1613
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 1: get that contract off, and they got Matthew Stafford in return.

1614
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: Who do the Eagles have enough to pay somebody to

1615
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: take Carson Wentz's contract and everything that it is. Yeah,

1616
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: that that that's that cap stuff. I don't know the

1617
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: answer to, right, But it's funny you mentioned the Guy

1618
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Stafford trade because I think that speaks to another league

1619
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: narrative now, the idea that a quarterback like Goff, who,

1620
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: by the way, he's had success, you can line up

1621
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: and obviously win with Jared Goff, you got to a

1622
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl. But I'm just talking about stylistically, the kind

1623
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: of quarterback like Goff who really does not have second reactionability,

1624
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: you know? Is that quarterback? And it speaks to the

1625
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as well with Brady versus Mahomes. Is that

1626
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback going to be seen now as a

1627
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: dinosaur in the NFL? And Goff's a young player, But

1628
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: is that style of quarterback a dinosaur or is everybody

1629
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: going to be looking for a quarterback that can make

1630
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 1: plays or script outside the structure of an offense because

1631
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: defenses are so good. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fascinating conversation.

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01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: I think it's going to lean towards the athletic guys

1633
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: quite frankly. Yeah, yeah, I mean those are the guys

1634
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: that are getting further and further in the playoffs, Josh

1635
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: Allen and Patrick Mahomes being two of the examples. Listen, Greg,

1636
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: it's been a blast having you on all season long.

1637
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on and making such strong contributions of

1638
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: the show. I know we'll reconnoiter with you in the

1639
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: very near future, So thanks for all the contributions this year. Oh,

1640
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I loved it. Guys, thanks so much for having me.

1641
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Appreciate that's great. Co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films,

1642
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: also one of the co hosts on the ESPN NFL

1643
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Matchup Show. We really love diving into the XS and

1644
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: o's with him because he puts the time in time

1645
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: that we quite frankly don't have, right he goes down

1646
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: in the basement. He also seems to have some sort

1647
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: of desire that I don't have too about sitting in

1648
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: well that too in a dark room, mushroom the true

1649
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, but I mean, we enjoy having him on

1650
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: and he always has great times. It's going to be

1651
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: interesting to see because sooner or later something's going to

1652
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: happen with Wentz. Where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's

1653
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: been way too much smoke. Yeah, And I think Greg

1654
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: astutely pointed out, you look at the hires that Nick

1655
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Sirianni has made at the quarterback coaching position at OC.

1656
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: These are guys that have come from the college ranks

1657
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,560
Speaker 1: and have worked with those quick hit, easy read offenses.

1658
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: And that speaks more to Jalen Hurts skill set than

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01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: it does to Carson Wentzes. I'll say this too. We're

1660
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: gonna have Andrew Branton later in the show, and he

1661
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: has and I've got a lot of respect for Andrew.

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01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: He knows what he's talking about. And he says that

1663
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: the Wentz contract is virtually untradeable. He goes, he's gonna be,

1664
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna be. He has maintained throughout that Wentz is

1665
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna be at a Philadelphia Eagle. It's impot in twenty

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01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: twenty one. In twenty twenty one, and I ask him

1667
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: about it. See what he said. Well, we're getting thinking

1668
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: that people saying that the impossible may happen. We'll talk

1669
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: to him in about fifteen minutes, Andrew Brant, so stay

1670
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: tuned for that. We have to take a break back

1671
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: in a sec here On one Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kali to health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio Welcome back, Chris Brown,

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01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker one Bills Live Friday addition, and that means

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01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: the Obie l fan mail bag, where we have questions

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01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: to answer from you. From Rachel, what are your thoughts

1676
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: on drafting a running back in the early rounds? I

1677
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: know our running backs weren't the only problem in our

1678
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: run game, but if someone like Travis Etn or Naji

1679
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Harris is available, can you pass them up? I understand

1680
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: the allure of a speed back like Travis Etn I

1681
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: get it. Naji Harris is probably a more complete player

1682
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: than Etn is. I think you can justify at pick

1683
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: thirty making that investment. I would not do it in

1684
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: the top half of round one. I think there's more

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01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: justification for it at the end of round one, where

1686
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:48,919
Speaker 1: the Bills currently sit. But Steve and I have discussed

1687
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: this and big men at the line of scrimmage, I

1688
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: think is where the run game needs to be addressed first,

1689
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: and you can wait and get running back talent that

1690
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: can do the job in the league later in the draft. Yeah.

1691
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: I think the vacuum of bodies on both lines with

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01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: the departure of free agents and contracts running out. I

1693
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: think that's where your picks are gonna go. Um and

1694
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: you can pick up a guy either as good or

1695
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: better or different than the two guys you've got in

1696
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: the last two third rounds. You can get another one

1697
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: in the third round. I think the Bills will probably

1698
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: draft big bodies, or if they don't draft a big body,

1699
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: it will be a guy at and at an important position,

1700
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: like you're going to get a shut down corner or

1701
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: if somebody if one falls that far or you'll you'll

1702
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: get an edge rusher one of those guys, or a

1703
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: big body more likely, or maybe you know another guy

1704
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: like a Cody Ford at that position. But I think

1705
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: it'll be a big guy. Unless an elite guy falls

1706
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: to number thirty or something like a wide receiver or corner,

1707
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: then you might see it. Other than that, no running

1708
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: backs too far down. I don't even think I don't

1709
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 1: even think a tight end will crack into that. Yeah,

1710
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll they'll him take a tight end there.

1711
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: I think it's it's about a big body or one

1712
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: of those elite positions at corner or wide out. I

1713
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: don't think that running back is going to be in

1714
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: the mix at that high. Maybe there will. Now, maybe

1715
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 1: they love the guy that much and they think he's

1716
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: going to be the number one guy for one Okay,

1717
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: but I doubt that. Or there's a run on one

1718
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: of the positions they're interested in on the lines, you know,

1719
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: maybe there's a run on tackles, or maybe there's a

1720
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: run on you know, it's not a good defensive tackle

1721
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: class this year. I know that's a good offensive tackle, yes,

1722
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: but it's not a good DT class if you want

1723
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: to add some beef and size and physicality, which was

1724
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: discussed in the season ending press conference by both Sean

1725
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: McDermott and Brandon Bean. But we have plenty of time

1726
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: to talk about that going forward. But we appreciate the question, Rachel.

1727
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: We have to break, but when we return. It is

1728
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Andrew Brandt, the guy that knows the numbers, the ledgers,

1729
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: the checkbooks of the NFL. Having worked in the front

1730
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: office of the Green Bay Packers as a salary cap expert,

1731
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: he's also a Monday Morning quarterback columnist. We'll talk with

1732
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: him next about this quarterback carousel and how fast or

1733
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:35,440
Speaker 1: slow it might be spinning this offseason with a restrictive

1734
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: cap expected to be in place. He's up next here

1735
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Line, presented by Kalid to Health. It's

1736
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been

1737
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: over the kind of unique. He was kind of a

1738
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're

1739
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: not even in the stratosphere of normalcy. Our number three

1740
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,759
Speaker 1: of the program, One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1741
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: with you here on a Friday edition of the program

1742
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line right now, someone who's

1743
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: all too ready to talk about whether there will be

1744
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback carousel this offseason in the league. It's Monday

1745
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback columnists, host of the Business of Sports podcast

1746
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and executive director of the mora At Center at Villanova University.

1747
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: It is one Andrew Brant joining us. Andrew, how are

1748
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: you on this super Bowl week to cap the season. Yeah,

1749
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 1: it's quite a way, quite a super Bowl week and

1750
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: quite a season. You know, we've gotten through COVID. I

1751
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: know we talked a couple of times where I was clear,

1752
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean I was wrong. I thought maybe this wouldn't happen,

1753
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: and they've made it through. Now, they've made it through

1754
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: with you know, dealing with the Titans issue is dealing

1755
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: with the Ravens having twenty three COVID cases and playing

1756
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: one week. They made it through with the Broncos playing

1757
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: without an NFL quarterback one week, the forty Niners playing

1758
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: without NFL receivers one week, but they made it through.

1759
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: So one more game and they've accomplished what their goal was.

1760
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: And for most teams, the offseason has already started and

1761
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 1: we can get to the super Bowl in just a minute.

1762
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to get you and I've been watching closely

1763
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: and agreeing with you about this Carson Wentz situation. In Philly.

1764
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: We saw the Goff Stafford trade, which, in essence, the

1765
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: Rams paid the Detroit Lions with their quarterback and draft

1766
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: picks in order to take that contract off their hands.

1767
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you've said steadfast and I believe

1768
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz's contract is almost untradeable, and yet we

1769
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: still keep seeing smoke coming out of the Philadelphia facility.

1770
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 1: Are you still adamant that it's almost impossible to trade

1771
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah, I hate to say it's Steve, but

1772
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting less adamant, right And the reason I was

1773
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: so adamant is because listen, I managed the salary cap

1774
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: for ten years. The most dead money I ever had

1775
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: on one player, I don't know, you know, on Brett Farve,

1776
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: we had less than a million dollars when he left.

1777
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I had three to four million on one guy.

1778
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 1: At one point, we just saw the highest dead money charge.

1779
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 1: And for your listeners, just quickly. Dead money is money

1780
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: for players on your roster. I'm sorry, money for players

1781
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: on your cap that are no longer on your roster,

1782
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: and that is really a sign of a bad contract,

1783
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: bad decision making, bad management, let's put it bluntly. And

1784
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: the highest dead money charge in the history of the

1785
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: league just happened. The one player, Jared Goffer you mentioned,

1786
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: twenty two million accelerated onto the Rams cap the moment

1787
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: they trade him. Twenty two millions highest ever. Carson Wentz

1788
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: is thirty four million, whole different neighborhood than golf even.

1789
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: But here's the reason I'm less adamant he is that

1790
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 1: I just see all these rumors. I saw the press

1791
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: commerce of the new coach, and the Eagles nor Wentz

1792
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: are doing nothing, so shoot down these rumors. Nothing. Yeah,

1793
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: No one is saying he's our quarterback. Wentz. It's not

1794
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: saying I look forward to the new coach. The new

1795
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: coach isn't saying I look forward to working with Carson.

1796
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 1: And there's all these rumors which I think are partly

1797
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: from other teams but partly from the Eagles. So what

1798
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles are trying to do is just drum up

1799
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: enough interest so maybe they can look at themselves in

1800
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,759
Speaker 1: the world and say, yes, we're taking on this massive

1801
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 1: dead money, but look what we got, whether it's a

1802
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: number one or whatever, it is, right, and so what

1803
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: will it come down to? And could it be They're

1804
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: in a different situation than the Rams. I mean, the

1805
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: Rams gave up ones and players and to get the

1806
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: contract off of their books, but they also got Matt

1807
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Stafford in return. And there are teams out there that

1808
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: could you could handle the Wentz contract pretty easily. I mean,

1809
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Indianapolis Colts, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Jets,

1810
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots could do it. There's a ton of teams

1811
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: out there that could take that contract. But really the

1812
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 1: onus is on Philly for swallowing thirty four million dollars

1813
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: in a year where the cap may be like a

1814
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: buck eighty five, right. I mean, listen, this is what

1815
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 1: I've been answering on Twitter for months. Well that everyone's

1816
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: saying the contract's not so bad or even Wentz could

1817
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: take less money. I'm like that that helps the new team,

1818
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: all right. I agree with that for the new team.

1819
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: But the way NFL economics works, and I've been at

1820
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 1: it for twenty years, you can't help the dead money.

1821
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: The only thing to help the dead money for the

1822
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: Eagles is it went pays back money. Now, I heard

1823
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Mike Cannabomb, who I worked with in the NFL long time, saying, well,

1824
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Wentz is going to pay back a lot of money,

1825
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: twenty million, I'll get it in the new teams. I'm like, no,

1826
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: that's not happening. Wentz is not going to pay back money. Right,

1827
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 1: So the problem was never about the new team. The

1828
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: problem to me is always about the Eagles, right, and

1829
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: their cap situation isn't pretty to begin with. So now

1830
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 1: let's just take the next hypothetical step and say they

1831
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: do move Wentz. How crippling is that dead cap that

1832
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: they would incur moving Wentz? And to what lengths would

1833
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: they have to go to to at least put a

1834
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: team on the field, because I gotta believe Andrew, It's

1835
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: it's pretty much a scorched earth scenario, is it not. Yeah,

1836
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: we just have We now have a example of what

1837
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: it's going to look like next year, and that is,

1838
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: of course the Rams. The Rams will have a team

1839
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald, which Allen Ramsey, with Matthew Stafford and

1840
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: four or five others, and then rookie contracts. I mean,

1841
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: that's it. I just identified the Rams roster, five elite

1842
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 1: players and rookie contracts. And I made a comment as

1843
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: soon as the golf trade was made, is like, there

1844
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: are going to be some veterans that are going to

1845
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: be put out the street because of this trade. And

1846
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: that will happen in Philadelphia if that trade is made.

1847
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: Can you imagine looking at your cap that may go

1848
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 1: down to one eight and you just have thirty four million,

1849
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: which is like, I don't know, a fifth of it

1850
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: on a player who's not there. Yeah, I mean think

1851
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: about that and listen. I know how he rose. I

1852
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: know those guys a long time. They've been traditionally good

1853
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,759
Speaker 1: cat managers. But this would be I mean, forget about

1854
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: forget about everything about cap and everything else. This would

1855
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: be a massive admission of a mistake. They put in

1856
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: a number one pick traded number ones, gave them a

1857
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: rookie contract, and the big kicker is gave him one

1858
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million contracts, which is now causing all

1859
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: this dead money. And then taking that a step further

1860
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 1: andrew with you know, with this restrictive cap, whatever the

1861
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: number is, one eighty five, how much of a scorched

1862
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: earth scenario exists for teams around the league in unhealthy

1863
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: cap situations? Are we looking at half the league having

1864
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: to you know, flood the market with middle market players

1865
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 1: that they just have to part ways with because you know,

1866
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: this was largely unanticipated, you know, a pandemic, you know,

1867
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: causing revenue losses to this degree where the cap gets restricted,

1868
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, like New Orleans Saints for example, they're all

1869
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one million over. How many teams

1870
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 1: are going to be in a boat like that where

1871
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: the middle market is basically a race you know in

1872
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: a normal year, I always talk about I'm on with

1873
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: you guys in February and March every year, and I said,

1874
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 1: look at the blood letting, you know, look at the

1875
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: blood letting in February and March before the season opens.

1876
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: The league year opens in March, and imagine that in

1877
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 1: this year. So it's not like this is new when

1878
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: veterans with non guaranteed contracts are cast away before the

1879
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: new league year begins. But now, as you said, it's

1880
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: going to be magnified. There's no question about that. And

1881
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 1: you are going to get players like Ben Roethlisberger and

1882
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: I thought Carson went, I guess I still do that

1883
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: are cheaper to keep. You know, Ben Roethlisberger is cheaper

1884
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: to keep. So you are going to get some of

1885
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: those veterans that teams are going to say, we just

1886
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: can't take the dead money this year, we'll keep them. Now,

1887
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: the Skillers don't have an option, which is their other problem.

1888
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: They don't have a succession plan at quarterback. But if

1889
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg didn't have all that extra cat money attached

1890
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: to him because all the renegotiations, same as Breeze, they

1891
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: would probably move on. Let me just give you a

1892
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: scenario where the bottom seven teams, it's the Steelers at

1893
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: eighteen million, the Packers at twenty one million, the Falcons

1894
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: at twenty three million, the Rams at twenty five million,

1895
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: and then Philadelphia at forty one million and the Saints

1896
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: at ninety four million. All those means over the cat

1897
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: there's going to be more than a handful of teams

1898
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 1: that are going to, you know, really have to make

1899
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 1: some difficult decisions. And there are other teams at the

1900
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 1: other end of it, being like Jacksonville, Indianapolis, the Jets,

1901
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and the Bengals who are going to have

1902
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of money to spend. This may be the

1903
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: most active. Do you think it's going to be more

1904
01:42:55,880 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: active on the free agent market because of this fact? Yeah,

1905
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what I need to say about

1906
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: some of those teams over is that they're going to

1907
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: continue the spiral. And it's a little bit technical, but

1908
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: for your listeners, you know, the problem with all these

1909
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: teams that they use pro rations so much. In other words,

1910
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: you sign a five year deal, give a twenty million

1911
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: dollar bonus, and you spread it out four million a year,

1912
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: and then you cut the guy in year three and

1913
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: you accelerate those three years twelve million caps. Teams that

1914
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 1: are at are the top of the level of cap

1915
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: that have a lot of cap room, are able to

1916
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: do it without pro rations. So if you're paying a

1917
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: guy twenty millions, you can just count twenty millions. I

1918
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 1: look at the forty nine ers in Garoppolo. That's what

1919
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 1: they've done with his contract. So there's no dead money,

1920
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: and it creates so much flexibility. Unfortunately, what the Rams

1921
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: are going to do now and some of these other teams,

1922
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna go to Aaron Donald and they're gonna go

1923
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: to Jailen Ramsey and they're going to say, let's make

1924
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 1: your salary a bonus, and they're going to push out

1925
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: more money and the cycle continue. Is the Stealers have

1926
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: done this every year with Rosisburger, the Saints have done

1927
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: this every year with Breeze. So it's this vicious cycle

1928
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: thinking that one day we'll get out of this. And

1929
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: I know there's going to be some thinking like, oh,

1930
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: when these media deals kick in, the CAP's gonna go

1931
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: way up. Let's just push out the problem even more.

1932
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: The bills. Are you now in a position where they

1933
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: can extend Josh Allen if they want to, or push

1934
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 1: it off with a fifth year option and exercising that

1935
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: depending on which way they want to go. Brandon Bean

1936
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 1: has already said that even in this restrictive cap. He

1937
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: believes there is a way they could extend Josh Allen

1938
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,799
Speaker 1: if that's what they choose to do with this restrictive cap. Andrew,

1939
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: what would be your approach with a player like Josh

1940
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Allen who played at an MVP type level this year?

1941
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Do you do the extension now or with this restrictive

1942
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: cap do you kind of hold your water, buy some

1943
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: time and exercise the fifty year option. Well, the Golf

1944
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 1: and Wentz situations really make me, if I'm a team executive,

1945
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: think hard about whether you jump in after year three

1946
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 1: as those teams did, and maybe hold your powder till

1947
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: you've four and see another year of continued improvement. Now,

1948
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: but now that's the easy part. Now, you got to

1949
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: look at the personal part. If I'm Josh Allen or

1950
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:34,839
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Lamar Jackson and I see my team

1951
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: wanting to wait, I'm like, what the heck? Like? The

1952
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 1: Rams didn't need to wait on Golf, Youels didn't need

1953
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: to wait on Last, The Texans didn't need to wait

1954
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: on Watson, and of course the Chiefs didn't need to

1955
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: wait on the Homes. Why do they need to wait?

1956
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: You know why? And don't tell me about the restrictive Cats,

1957
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: because I think that's the problem. So I think the

1958
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: Bills and Ravens and even the Jets with Darnold, and

1959
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: they've got to approach it like whatever we do. We've

1960
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: got a personal issue here because other teams have gone

1961
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: to players right after year three and done this. Yeah,

1962
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: there's also been the situations where that team chooses to wait,

1963
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: and like Dak Prescott and what do you think about

1964
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 1: his situation in the way, and of course the Kirk

1965
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Cousins situation where he kept ringing the bell every year

1966
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: they would franchise him. You know, I think Dak has

1967
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: played it well. He's unlike all these others because he

1968
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:41,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a first round pick and he got to allegedly

1969
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: free agency earlier. But of course they used the tag,

1970
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: and I think they'll use the tag again, like you

1971
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: mentioned Kirk Cousins, and he'll play that into a massive

1972
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 1: contract probably next year. So I think that Dak in

1973
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: good shape to spike the injury. But again, you don't

1974
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys. Is it waiting or we hear from

1975
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: the Jones family they didn't negotiate, They just couldn't find

1976
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,640
Speaker 1: the number. So there's really two issues. Are you going

1977
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: to negotiate and then will you make a deal? I

1978
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 1: think that they start negotiating, they will make a deal.

1979
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: Talking to Andrew Brand Monday Morning Quarterback column, this host

1980
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: of the Business of Sports podcast Andrew with all these

1981
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 1: teams or a good number of teams likely to flood

1982
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: the market with either overpaid veterans or middle market players,

1983
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: it certainly indicates that there's going to be a buyer's market.

1984
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 1: What do you think the likelihood is that players the

1985
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 1: caliber of JJ Watt could be had for, you know,

1986
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 1: a one year deal for seven and a half million dollars?

1987
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: Are we looking at one year deals all over the map,

1988
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: not only because teams don't want to make as much

1989
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,799
Speaker 1: of a commitment, but because players want to get themselves

1990
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 1: back on the free agent market the very next year

1991
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: when the cap maybe gets more in line with where

1992
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: it usually is. Yeah, I agree with that, other than

1993
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, as I've said so many,

1994
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 1: so many years about NFL contracts, they're really all one

1995
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: year deals, even if they're five year two. So if

1996
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: you're a team, I don't know how much you care

1997
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: about years because you can get rid of the player

1998
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: if you're a player, you know, and you want to

1999
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: set yourself up for next year. You do want a

2000
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: one year deal. I just think the teams you mentioned

2001
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 1: at the top of the cap chain, the Jags, the Colts,

2002
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 1: the Browns, they're gonna have real advantages this year because,

2003
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 1: as they said, and only they contain more, but they

2004
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: can fit more under their cap without exposing so many problems.

2005
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: And the other thing, these guys forget about the JJ Watts.

2006
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 1: These those on the Eagles and the Rams and the

2007
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Packers and the Saints and the Steelers, those veterans squeezed out.

2008
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna be some good players and they'll

2009
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 1: find homes. What do you think the if you can

2010
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: project and use your experience about what the cap will

2011
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: look look like, how fast will it bounce back? The

2012
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: league is talking about a seventeen game schedule. Obviously it

2013
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 1: will be negotiated. I don't know if you've heard about

2014
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: the Tasker plan, but because I think I think the

2015
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: league should cut the preseason and half go two games,

2016
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: add to add two preseason, add two regular season games

2017
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 1: before Labor Day, and put the entire league on a

2018
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: bye over the Labor Day weekend and then go on

2019
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: play your sixteen game schedule. That would give you that

2020
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 1: month plus a league wide bye week, you'd have eighteen games,

2021
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: which is like twelve percent twelve and a half percent

2022
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: additional games the network deals, you know. Even so that's

2023
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 1: the tasker plan with the seventeen game schedule. Why don't

2024
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 1: how fast will the salary cap bounce back from the

2025
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: one hundred eighty five hundred and seventy five million dollars

2026
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: level we're at now? Well, I always I stayed again,

2027
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't savor this for the player's side. They gave

2028
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: up the incredibly precious innoventory of another game, or what

2029
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't think is enough. You know, the cap percentage

2030
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 1: goes up from forty seven to forty eight at some point,

2031
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: and then you're stuck there for ten years, no increase

2032
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: beyond that. Listen, there are a lot of people that

2033
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: think that the cap won't go down too much this

2034
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: year because they'll bar from the future, because we know

2035
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: these huge media deals are coming, and maybe they'll take

2036
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: money from twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five so

2037
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 1: that they don't bring it down to one seventy five

2038
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 1: or one eighty. This year. I also hear the owners

2039
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. The owners want the players

2040
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: to take the pain, just like they took the pain

2041
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: all season with only seven percent league wide of fan attendance.

2042
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: So I see a really reduced cap. Maybee maybe five

2043
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: coming from one eight. That's a big hit. So we'll see.

2044
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, there are better days ahead because one thing

2045
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: that COVID has not affected, of course is media and

2046
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: ratings are as high as ever and they're going to

2047
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: be through the roof on Sunday. So I just think,

2048
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, there there are salad days ahead for the NFL,

2049
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 1: but they're going to make the players take the pain

2050
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:43,759
Speaker 1: this year. And Andrew, I know that you've talked about

2051
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: changing the model when it comes to GM candidates. There

2052
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: were three minority hires at the GM level this offseason,

2053
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, Terry font no Bra Brad Holmes and then

2054
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: Martin Mayhew and Washington as you well know, So what

2055
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: what is your what's your viewpoint on that in terms

2056
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:09,600
Speaker 1: of changing the model. I just felt like, you know,

2057
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 1: in other businesses leadership, we see so much disruption, different

2058
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 1: non traditional people coming in and sort of bringing new ideas.

2059
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: You know, the traditional model of NFL General managers a scout.

2060
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, some of it's spent their career bird dogging

2061
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: players at colleges, sitting in a dark room looking at film.

2062
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's the best model to run a

2063
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: two billion dollars assets it's the best model to pick players.

2064
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: So I was just saying, you know, maybe we look

2065
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: at bringing in executives from tech, from media, from even finance,

2066
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and then have that person that

2067
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:54,759
Speaker 1: GM as their head scouting director. But the GM coming

2068
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 1: from more of a I got guest business is the

2069
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: general term rather than pure football. It didn't really happen.

2070
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 1: So it didn't happen. You know, people are tried and

2071
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: true with the scouting background, but maybe one day. How

2072
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: do you anticipate this offseason going and what kind of

2073
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: changes that we had, well, what kind of adjustments that

2074
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: we made for the pandemic will become normal going forwards.

2075
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 1: It's a great question, you know, as far as how

2076
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: I see it, I have no idea, you know, what

2077
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: vaccinations are going to look like. I think we're still virtual.

2078
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I think we're having a zoom offseason and maybe even

2079
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 1: a zoom preseason. It's really hard to project anything different.

2080
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 1: I think at this time something should you know, according

2081
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 1: to JC tread or the Players Association, why do you

2082
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 1: even need to be hanging around in the building in

2083
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: May or June or July. So they may push for

2084
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: that to sort of be regular. And then I think

2085
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: on the field, the big thing that I like that

2086
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 1: should keep in the league this year is these IR

2087
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: movement back and forth where you don't have to put

2088
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 1: a player down for the whole year. I just think

2089
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: that's a great thing because what usually happened before this

2090
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 1: year is a guy who's a three to four week injury,

2091
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 1: but you need to replace them, and you can never

2092
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 1: get him back if you put him on IR. So

2093
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 1: I think the more relaxed rules for ours something that's

2094
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:31,520
Speaker 1: got to stay. Yeah, Andrew, appreciate the insight and the expertise.

2095
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: As always, thanks for making some time for us here

2096
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 1: on a Friday. Was a pleasure, guys, all right, thank you.

2097
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Speaker 1: Joined the Super Bowl on Sunday. That's Andrew Brandt, Monday

2098
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: Morning quarterback columnist, host of the Business to Sports podcast,

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Speaker 1: and executive director director of the more At Center at

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01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Villa and Over University. He's plugged in. He's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite guests plugged. He really is one of my

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01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 1: favorite guests because of his experience of running a team

2103
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: and the salary cap and the realities of the finances

2104
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: that handcuff every no matter how bad they want to

2105
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: make a deal, can't do it. Yeah, and except except

2106
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles found a pair of bolt cutters, and

2107
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be cutting the handcuffs off. They haven't eating

2108
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 1: the salary thirty four million, that's why, right. That'll make

2109
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: you choke on man thirty four that's even if they

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01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:21,919
Speaker 1: trade him with that contract, they swallow thirty four million,

2111
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: which means you are cutting a slew of The worst

2112
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 1: part about it is you're eating thirty four million on

2113
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 1: your cap just to get rid of that quarterback. But

2114
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: that dead cap that's sitting on your books is going

2115
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: to force you to remove more players from your roster

2116
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: so you can get under the cap because of the

2117
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: thirty four that you're eating. And here's the last thing

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01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: that's justis Yeah, the last thing I'll say about it

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01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: too is the Eagles in some ways are kind of

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01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: positioned for it because they got Jalen Hurts on a

2121
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 1: rookie contract, So that helps you stomach bend. If Jalen

2122
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: Hurts plays at the high enough level he can you

2123
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 1: can say, well, there's our thirty four million dollars quarterback,

2124
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 1: even though we're paying him whatever. So that. But they're

2125
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 1: still forty one million over the cap already, so you

2126
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: may have to cut people like your Cox. Seven draft

2127
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: picks coming so they can get they'll get those guys

2128
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: in for cheap. They'll get some good players in the door.

2129
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: But but that's you know, that's and if you say no,

2130
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: we're keeping Cox, well then all right, well you gotta

2131
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 1: cut Derek Barnett over here, or you know what I mean,

2132
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: you gotta now And they just, like Andrew said, like

2133
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: the Rams this year are gonna be Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey,

2134
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, Matthew Stafford, Aaron Donald and a

2135
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah, And that's

2136
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: why you were saying the other day, Aaron Donald gets

2137
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: hurt and Robert Woods gets hurt. There are seasons over

2138
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: they're they're a bad Division one team. Well, Matt Stafford

2139
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 1: helps him. But here's the thing, it's this league's gonna

2140
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: look really Philly next year. Philly is and they gotta

2141
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Philly, maybe if they do trade wins,

2142
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 1: they're in complete and utter, rebuild mode, new head coach,

2143
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: all of that. But you're gonna have to go have

2144
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: a honeymoon. You're gonna have to cut Brandon Graham. You're

2145
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to cut Lane Johns. The list goes on

2146
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: and on and on, Brandon Brooks, and they're gonna they're

2147
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to compete with in a division where you've

2148
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: got the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins in that and

2149
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: be a bloodletting man those two teams. The Giants are

2150
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 1: right at the league average. There's seven million dollars over

2151
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 1: the cap. I mean under the cap, seven million dollars

2152
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: under the cap. Dallas Cowboys are twenty seven million dollars

2153
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: under the cap. That's that's if the caps one hundred

2154
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 1: and eighty five million. So the Cowboys and the Giants

2155
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: are sitting pretty Washington and Philly not so much. Not

2156
01:57:56,160 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: so much. I mean that's you know, yeah, that's Philly

2157
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: is no. Washington is actually fantastic. Got forty three million

2158
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: dollars to spare, and they will be. They will be

2159
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: four out of four. They need an answer at quarterback too,

2160
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 1: So there's that. Um All right, break time for us

2161
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: when we return the latest installment of Tasker's Teammate. Stay

2162
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that as we try to stump Steve

2163
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,880
Speaker 1: on the latest former teammate of his that we will

2164
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: have waiting with bated breath on the phone line. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid

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01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

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01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Bills Live on a Friday, final half hour of the

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01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: show and one of the most exciting segments of the week.

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01:58:55,640 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: It is time Steve for the latest installment of Tests

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01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 1: Teammate and Tasker's Teammate is brought to you by Wegman's

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01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: Meals to Go Delicious Meals delivered download the Wegman's app today, Stevie,

2172
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: are ready to play? So ready. I tried to go

2173
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: in a little bit of a different direction with these clues,

2174
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 1: so forgive me if this is gonna take Well, there

2175
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 1: was a reason I'm going this way, and I'll explain afterwards.

2176
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 1: But clue number one. Born in nineteen sixty three, I

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01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 1: grew up less than six hundred miles from where I

2178
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 1: would play my NFL career. So I went regional here

2179
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: six hundred miles. It is not Andre Reid. Clue number two.

2180
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: In my four years of college, we had our most

2181
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 1: successful season my senior year when we went nine two

2182
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: and one and beat Michigan State in the Hall of

2183
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: Fame Classic in Birmingham, Alabama. We finished the season ranked

2184
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: nineteenth in the country. Bro, that's like nineteen eighty well, no, nineteen,

2185
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, he was born in sixty three, eighteen

2186
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: his senior year. That's like eighty eight Michigan States, so

2187
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 1: it'd being vision, Okay, So just use it, use it

2188
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 1: as information to you know, to It's like one of

2189
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 1: those cumulative things. So just keep some of that in

2190
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 1: one in sixty three senior year in college, Michigan, Michigan State,

2191
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,720
Speaker 1: right right, right, But he's six hundred miles from Buffalo.

2192
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's got to be between Michigan,

2193
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and all that you know down in the round

2194
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 1: the Ohio. Okay, go one of my six hundred miles though,

2195
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: what are you kidding me? Clue number three. One of

2196
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 1: my teammates on my college team would also become my

2197
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: teammate with the Buffalo Bills, and he was a recent

2198
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:16,560
Speaker 1: Tasker's teammate. Oh frakidness six, So someone that was a

2199
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 1: college and teammate college teammate of this guy and Bill's teammates.

2200
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: See this is where I need my list. Huge mistake

2201
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 1: which you left at home? No, it's it's tucked down

2202
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 1: in my pack or something. Plus, I haven't listed the

2203
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: last six guys. We've done right, forget it. Wait, John Parrella,

2204
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 1: it is not John Parrella. Clue number four. I was

2205
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft choice of the Bills, and as

2206
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 1: a rookie, I was an an active player for much

2207
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 1: of that first season. Seventh round crab Tony Klein, It

2208
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: is not Tony Klin justin armor. It is not just

2209
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: in armor. I got into the lineup a bit more

2210
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 1: my second year with the Bills, before appearing in all

2211
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 1: sixteen games for each of the next five seasons. For

2212
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 1: an injury forced me to miss a couple of games

2213
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: in our final AFC title season. Now, in fairness, I

2214
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 1: am being very vague and no kidding, I don't know

2215
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 1: he was on it. So a finals final ninety ninety four,

2216
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 1: So you know he's a Bill's draft choice. Yeah, yeah,

2217
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Russell Copeland. It is not Russell Copeland. Al Edwards, it

2218
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 1: is not Al Edwards. By the end of my career,

2219
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: I had appeared in one hundred seventy three career games

2220
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: with the Bills, lasting one more season in a Bill's

2221
02:02:54,680 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 1: uniform than Steve. Henry Jones is not Henry Joe. So

2222
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 1: let's do the math here. Okay, Mark Pike there it

2223
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: is Steve. Well done. Mark Pike is the correct answer.

2224
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: And he's not on the line just yet, but trying

2225
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 1: to get a hold of him. Mark Pike, that's right.

2226
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Maybe now you know why I could not give his

2227
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: hometown because you would know it. Covington, Kentucky. Yeah, Kentucky.

2228
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: So let me just say this coming from me, maybe

2229
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 1: the greatest special teams player of all time, Yes you can,

2230
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest. He is absolutely the best, certainly the

2231
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: best big man special teams of all time. I remember Piker,

2232
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 1: tent Peg and somebody so Clarence for Dan in Indianapolis.

2233
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: There's his one career sack. That's it is that Grogan

2234
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 1: who is that? It was number seven for the I

2235
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: don't even know who that was. He was so he

2236
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: was so good him. Butch Roll car World Gardner. Yeah,

2237
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: we had some guys, Jamie Mueller, We had some dudes. Man,

2238
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: So you know the previous Tasker's teammate who was also

2239
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: his college teammate, Wait a minute, uh at Georgia Tech,

2240
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 1: John john Na Davis Davis. Okay, we're teammates. And yeah, wow,

2241
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 1: I did not realize that they didn't play all four

2242
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:27,320
Speaker 1: years together. But they did play together there for a bit. Uh.

2243
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 1: I'd say Piker was he was a six four and

2244
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: he had he was the same. He's one of those guys,

2245
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:37,120
Speaker 1: real pro at some points. He weighed two, you know,

2246
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:40,160
Speaker 1: eighty at some points. And then for one year they

2247
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: had him with his hand off the ground and had

2248
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 1: him trying to play outside just before positional and he

2249
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: got down to like two forty or something. Wow, U

2250
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 1: two forty. Yeah, he was like two fifty or something

2251
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: like that. And he yeah, he that must have made

2252
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 1: him a home wrecker on special team. So I was

2253
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,320
Speaker 1: telling you that the story. We had this this game

2254
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:00,280
Speaker 1: plan against the Indianapolis Colts back in the old RCA Dome,

2255
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 1: of course, and Clarence for Dan was a guy who

2256
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: liked to run. He was like a Barry Sanders type.

2257
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 1: He was smaller than Barry, but he would run around sideways,

2258
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 1: he'd go backwards and you know Moreever, he was a

2259
02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 1: receiver though, right, yeah, but he was also he was

2260
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: the return guy to the punt returner for sure, and

2261
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,200
Speaker 1: he would run all over the yard trying to find

2262
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 1: like he was playing tag in the backyard. Right. He

2263
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 1: never he didn't have any problem losing ground trying because

2264
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:26,080
Speaker 1: he knew he'd break a big one. So we had

2265
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 1: the game plan of we instead of usually come from

2266
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:32,120
Speaker 1: the outside end with these especially guy my Posy, he'd

2267
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: come from the outside to keep him in the middle

2268
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 1: of the field so that he won't get to the edge.

2269
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 1: Our plan with him was just the opposite. If you're

2270
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 1: coming down, you got to get in front of him.

2271
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 1: So he we want him to go back sideways so

2272
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 1: we can get him and hurt him. He'll get him

2273
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 1: to go backwards and get him and then squeeze him

2274
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:51,960
Speaker 1: against the sidelines. So so I was the first one

2275
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 1: down and I'm kind of hemming him in and I'm

2276
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 1: like right between the hash marks in front of him,

2277
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of playing basketball and he kind of

2278
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,880
Speaker 1: goes and I'm hurt him. Right, I heard him right

2279
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: right into the sheep dog. Mark Pike grabs him. I

2280
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: mean he's like this and grabs bear, hugs him both

2281
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 1: the guys he's got the ball, but both arms down,

2282
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: like he just grabbed him from behind, had both arms

2283
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 1: pinning everything and then just supplexed him and put his

2284
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: head in the ground like like a tent peg. I mean,

2285
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,280
Speaker 1: he's like, we didn't see Clarence the rest of the day,

2286
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 1: and it was because I couldn't have done it. Yeah,

2287
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 1: because he was like he did wasn't big dude. He

2288
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 1: probably way to Buck seventy and Mark ran was not

2289
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 1: a big It was like a throw pillow. I mean

2290
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 1: it was like, oh wow, it was like it was

2291
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 1: frighteningly quick. How fast he got him over there. Yeah,

2292
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 1: Mark Piker was great. He was great twelve seasons with

2293
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. Close friend of mine. He's he's great. I'm

2294
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: glad he's we got him on, except now he can't

2295
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:50,920
Speaker 1: get him on. He can't get him on the phone unfortunately.

2296
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, it runs a he runs a facility. His

2297
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: his business now is doing extremely well. But I don't know,

2298
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's been in the pandemic. I

2299
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 1: gotta take that back, but before the pandemic, he runs

2300
02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 1: a facility in Covington, Kentucky that is an indoor fitness,

2301
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 1: wellness family center that has multiples under one roof right right,

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02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 1: it's got it's got a daycare, it's got fitness center,

2303
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 1: it's got a high ropes playground, it's got an indoor

2304
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 1: trampoline place. He's got indoor soccer, it's got an indoor basketball.

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Speaker 1: It's an enormously it's an indoor facility all under one roof.

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Speaker 1: And then he's got outside. He's got like this huge

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Speaker 1: water park out front and big soccer fields out front.

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02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: The place is immense. It's like a campus and he

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Speaker 1: and his partners run this thing and and have just

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02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: was up in the upper last. I talked to him.

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02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 1: He took me through it. They were in the process

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Speaker 1: of refurbishing and upgrading and adding on and everything. So,

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Speaker 1: m it's an enormous business that he's been running for

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Speaker 1: quite some time. And it's he's doing really well, doing

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02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, and uh you know, just you look

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02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 1: him up and yeah, widely considered one of the best

2317
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,600
Speaker 1: big men to ever play special teams. I mean, he

2318
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 1: was we covered I covered more kicks with him than

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02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 1: any human being on the planet. So yeah, he was

2320
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 1: a good, good run, good friend. He was a great

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Speaker 1: player for the Buffalo Bills, great player for the Bills,

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02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: and lasted one more year than Steve did. He got

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02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 1: here in eighty six. Yeah, I got here in eighty

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02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: six two, but my first year was eighty five, so

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02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,000
Speaker 1: I was we played for the same amount. But he

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02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:25,839
Speaker 1: retired the year after ninety eight was his last season,

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02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:28,760
Speaker 1: so at least he went out ten and six. Yeah,

2328
02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 1: and that ten and six year. He was out the

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02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: year before the home run throwback as well, and I

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02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 1: was out two years before. I remembered it as being

2331
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 1: one year, but I was reminded by a listener that said, no,

2332
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: you got out and signed down and he seven. It

2333
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 1: actually happened after the ninety It was January two thousand,

2334
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 1: right when that happened. That was that hurt Mark more

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02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 1: than hurt me even Yeah. Well yeah, but he wasn't

2336
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 1: a part of it either, So and that I but

2337
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 1: my phone was like, would that happen? My phone was like,

2338
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 1: it was Mark Pike? Could you did you just Yeah?

2339
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 1: I got to stay in your lanes, Yeah, gotta stay

2340
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 1: in your lane. Gotta stay in your lane out ahead

2341
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 1: of that man. Oh that was an ugo. That was good.

2342
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 1: Mark Pike, Yeah, I'm sorry. We couldn't get him on there.

2343
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:19,120
Speaker 1: We couldn't get a hold of him. It's because I

2344
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:20,840
Speaker 1: know he's a buddy of yours, which is why I

2345
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 1: had to choose a different way. Oh yeah, cling because

2346
02:09:24,680 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't say, you know, I'm born if you in

2347
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 1: one clue. So I wasn't going to do some of these,

2348
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 1: some of these players, it's surprising what I do know

2349
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 1: about him, and in some of them it's surprising. Well,

2350
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that I have to protect myself against.

2351
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 1: When I put the clues together, it's like, well, Steve

2352
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: probably knows that, so I can't use that all right,

2353
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: A lot of the college stuff I'm not familiar with. Okay, Well,

2354
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:48,360
Speaker 1: that's good to know. I'll try to remember that. We

2355
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: have a couple of more fan mail, bad questions we

2356
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:52,520
Speaker 1: wanted to get done before the end of the show.

2357
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:56,400
Speaker 1: Kyle asked, do you think it's possible that we trade

2358
02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 1: up to anything under fifteen to try to grab Kyle

2359
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 1: Pitts the tight from Florida if he's still available New

2360
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 1: England has the fifteenth pick, so they will not trade.

2361
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 1: But I think they're the only top fifteen team that

2362
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 1: would swing on a guy like Pits. Yeah, in case

2363
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this guy, Steve, this tight end is

2364
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 1: from another universe. Just a ridiculous athlete, kind of a

2365
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 1: Darren Waller type, immensely gifted, physically, plays at played at

2366
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 1: the University of Florida, just tears it up and it

2367
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:31,280
Speaker 1: looks like a man amongst boys. Yeah, listen, I get it.

2368
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 1: I got it. In this offseason, I want to I

2369
02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 1: want to look those guys in the eye and find

2370
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 1: out what makes him tick. I've seen a dozen guys

2371
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: like that to play in that position who come into

2372
02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 1: the league and because they were so gifted and so good,

2373
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 1: they didn't even they never learned how to put it

2374
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 1: in gear and keep it there. It's my own person.

2375
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 1: Johnson was kind of like that a little bit. Yeah,

2376
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 1: Lonnie was. Lonnie was a good player and pretty, but

2377
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 1: he was not He wasn't a big dude. He was strong,

2378
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:10,839
Speaker 1: put together, but he wasn't a guy like like Howard

2379
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 1: and Gronkowski and those. Yeah, these guys, I mean there's

2380
02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot of them. They are great. No question about it.

2381
02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 1: Guys like Tony Gonzalez and guys like Kelsey and Kittle

2382
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 1: and all those guy they're phenomenal guys. But you see

2383
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys and like Marcedes Lewis for the Packers,

2384
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 1: who's played for for fifteen years or something, six seven

2385
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:33,840
Speaker 1: or six eight, can run like the wind. And he's

2386
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 1: he's just and he's a great dude, but he's he's

2387
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:39,320
Speaker 1: a survivor. He played a long time, but he was

2388
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 1: never you know, he's a long way from being an

2389
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 1: All Pro and that kind of he was more of

2390
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 1: a of an aggregator than he was a great player.

2391
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 1: And there's a ton of guys like that. And I'm

2392
02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 1: and at that position, you think it's hard for NFL

2393
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:55,920
Speaker 1: teams to defend them? What are you think? And how

2394
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 1: hard it is for college teams to defend him? And

2395
02:11:57,640 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 1: how good they look? I get it, And maybe the

2396
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:01,560
Speaker 1: guy I will be the next get them. Maybe, Well

2397
02:12:01,600 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 1: we'll see, but he's gonna be a top fifteen pick

2398
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 1: getting there. Break time for us when we come back,

2399
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Speaker 1: it's what have we learned from today's show? Plenty of

2400
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Speaker 1: lessons strewn throughout the three hours. We'll see what it

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Speaker 1: is when we return here on One Bill's Life presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Today's time

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Speaker 1: for what have we learned from today's show? Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction of Quimen Rental Company

2405
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. And we had an interesting conversation

2406
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 1: with Andrew Brant, and he's less adamant about Carson went

2407
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 1: staying in Philadelphia. And a lot of the reporters are

2408
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 1: saying teams are making aggressive offers to the Eagles. They

2409
02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 1: anticipate that they will buckle at some point. It will

2410
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:54,520
Speaker 1: have to be a very very aggressive offer because, as

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02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:58,000
Speaker 1: we found out talking to Andrew Brant, if the Eagles

2412
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 1: trade wins, they gotta eight thirty four million dollars on

2413
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: their cap this coming year, and they're already over and

2414
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:08,880
Speaker 1: they're already over the cap. So it would if just

2415
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 1: put it this way, Here's why he thinks it won't

2416
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 1: happen to us and has said so, it's because of this.

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02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 1: If the Eagles trade Carson Wentz, their entire twenty twenty

2418
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 1: one regular season is done. They write it off. They're

2419
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 1: in total rebuild, mold it mode, and they will be

2420
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 1: drafting top five, probably top three in twenty twenty two. Yeah,

2421
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:36,920
Speaker 1: if the Eagles trade Carson Wentz, they're finished for twenty

2422
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 1: twenty one market down. That's what we found out. You

2423
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 1: heard it here first. That's that's what we do here, right,

2424
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:46,120
Speaker 1: We predict the future. They're forty million over, and then

2425
02:13:46,120 --> 02:13:49,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw thirty million, thirty four million dollars on

2426
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 1: top of that debt. Oh, thanks for listening, Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the super Bowl on Sunday. We had great fun

2428
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Speaker 1: talking this super Bowl week. We will see you Monday

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Speaker 1: for another edition. Know one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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