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Speaker 2: H my husband chose the dog over me and it

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Speaker 2: ruined our marriage.

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Speaker 3: Dogs are pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: There's a trigger warning for emotional abuse. My husband said

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Speaker 2: if he ever had to choose to let either me

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Speaker 2: or his parents' dog live, he would choose the dog.

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Speaker 2: Now I'd like to leave. Huh, well, yeah, that's pretty bad, man,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty bad. Not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: This is just something that just came up.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, babe, if you or my parents' dog

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Speaker 2: were dangling off a cliff, I would save the dog

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Speaker 2: so that then he could hang on to my leg

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Speaker 2: and pull me back as I lifted you up. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what he meant. Sure. My husband is watching two

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Speaker 2: out of four of his parents' Golden Retrievers during Christmas.

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Speaker 2: They are old and sweet, and one of them can

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Speaker 2: barely walk. I'd always loved his parents' dogs. The other night,

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Speaker 2: he let me know that it is priority that the

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Speaker 2: dogs get to sleep on the bed and I'll either

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Speaker 2: need to sleep on the guest bed or move my

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Speaker 2: legs for the dog. And by the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: Okay storytime subredit. I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, I'm Keon, and

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Speaker 2: we're here to give you good advice goofully, But we

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Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,

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Speaker 2: so if you would do something different, let us know

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Speaker 2: in the comments. As Op says, I asked why they

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Speaker 2: couldn't sleep on the guest bed or floor. He said,

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Speaker 2: because they're used to always sleeping with him. He was

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Speaker 2: single and living with his parents until he met me

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Speaker 2: at age thirty four, so the dogs slept on his

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Speaker 2: bed night late. We got married last February and he

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Speaker 2: left the dogs at his parents. It is a queen

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Speaker 2: bed and the golden is huge, so he takes up

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Speaker 2: most of it. Honestly, I'm sorry, but this is kind of.

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Speaker 4: A red flag Dakota hates dogs.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a red flag that you won't move your

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Speaker 2: legs so the dog can sleep in the bed. True, right,

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong? No, it's just a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Your leg's why I said it.

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Speaker 2: All you have to do is move your legs. He

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Speaker 2: won't move when gently pushed and likes to place himself

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the complete left side of the bed.

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Speaker 2: My husband told me not to make him move or

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Speaker 2: shove him, but to work around him. When I gently

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Speaker 2: laid my leg on top of the dog, he said

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Speaker 2: it was too heavy for the dog. Now, that is

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Speaker 2: a load of hooey. It's a Golden Retriever, it's a

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Speaker 2: large dog. The leg is not suffocating the Golden retriever.

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Speaker 5: And if the golden was uncomfortable, he would move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if and honestly, if your leg on the

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Speaker 2: dog is suffocating the dog. Dog should not be in

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Speaker 2: like everything would be at risk to the dog's well being.

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Speaker 2: My husband got to sleep stretched out on his bed.

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Speaker 2: The first morning, I woke up wanting to pass away.

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Speaker 2: The dog's massive weight had contorted the bed enough to

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Speaker 2: semi backbend position all night. I asked him to switch

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Speaker 2: point five minutes after laying on the dog's half of

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Speaker 2: has stabbed him in the back. He changed positions, but

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Speaker 2: to him whisper sweet nothings to the dogs. He wouldn't

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Speaker 2: his dogs. Multiple times, I will ask him what he's

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Speaker 4: This can't be real.

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Speaker 1: This guy loves his dogs. His dogs. There are parents dogs.

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Speaker 2: Probably he grew about quickly. He's been around him for

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Speaker 2: a long time, saying me is not your dog, he

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Speaker 1: I love that dog.

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Speaker 4: Can I bet that dog?

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Speaker 1: I want to pet that dog?

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Speaker 2: I asked him if he wanted to snuggle, and he

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Speaker 2: said no. He kept making comments about how he's sad

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Speaker 2: his dogs don't have more room. I finally said, kind

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Speaker 2: more than me, and he got.

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Speaker 3: Quiet Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I said, oh my god, do you silence? Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: He finally sighed and said, well, they are my babies.

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Speaker 2: They are my everything. Brother. You had to lay up.

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Speaker 4: You mean nothing to me.

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Speaker 2: That's the easiest. Of course, I love you more than

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Speaker 5: They're like my kids, which means I love you even

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Speaker 5: more than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were gone, I would be even more sad.

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Speaker 2: I was stunned. I was hit with a flash bang.

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Speaker 2: I asked if he was serious, and he said yes.

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Speaker 2: I asked if if we were in a life threatening

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Speaker 2: so situation, is he choosing me or the dogs? He

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Speaker 3: It could totally happen. There could be a.

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Speaker 2: Fire, there's a fire. Who do you save the dogs

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Speaker 2: or your actual wife? Oh my god, I save the

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Speaker 2: drag my wife out of the house because my dogs

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Speaker 5: Trained, naturally, and then it's just tiny little Mia trying

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Speaker 2: I have a herd, I have twenty nine chihuahuas.

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Speaker 3: I feel like twenty nine chiuhahas could do it.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine jihuahuas working as a like ants together. He

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Speaker 2: could do that, he could. I insisted on my hypothetical question,

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Speaker 3: Oh and my daughter, you guys have a daughter.

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Speaker 2: I think she maybe has a daughter, stepdaughter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, still still one of the child like is he is?

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Speaker 2: I wonder if this really I can't imagine anyone really

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Speaker 2: this guy just wanted the relationship to end, and he's like,

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Speaker 2: this is a perfect ridiculous opportunity for me to force

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Speaker 2: I just have like a hiccup. Did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, everybody that was I'm sure weird. Okay. I

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Speaker 2: because it was a stupid question.

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Speaker 3: That's not a stupid question. Do you have a stupid answer.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's a stupid question in a vacuum. Maybe not

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Speaker 2: after you said I would save the dogs instead of you, Right,

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Speaker 2: that's a very valid question to ask after you say that.

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Speaker 2: He then said he was kidding about the dog stuff

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Speaker 2: and only answered that way to show me those were

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Speaker 2: stupid questions. Guys, he wasn't kidding. I really believe no

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Speaker 2: part of that was a joke. Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 2: And we do have an update? Yeah, it sounds like

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Speaker 2: and uh is now trying to be like, no, actually, baby,

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Speaker 2: you don't understand. Actually, I was just using my galaxy

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Speaker 2: because of course I would save you instead of the dogs.

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Speaker 1: I would be very sad and mad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta say, like, if it's like a

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Speaker 2: You're good. I don't need to like, you're not incapacitated.

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Speaker 2: You get yourself, get out of the house.

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Speaker 3: Save this situation, though, give it her get out.

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Speaker 4: Neither of us can.

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Speaker 3: Move to get out of the house.

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Speaker 2: It's like a Harvey Dent versus Rachel situation. And you're like,

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Speaker 2: you can only save one. He's like, I'm saving the dogs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's like what wait? What? And folks, this is really

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Speaker 2: all that. Let it be known. All this is a

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Speaker 2: product of a bad night's sleep. Okay, she can't she

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Speaker 2: didn't sleep. Well, she's real grumpy. I'd be grumpy. Well,

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Speaker 5: Hey, the dogs are staying on your side of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Never get in the way between your partner and

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Speaker 2: a good night's sleep. Okay, that is the moral of

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Speaker 3: What are you staring at me for?

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Speaker 5: You're the one that never sleeps exactly?

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Speaker 2: This is all from a lack of sleep. All this

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Speaker 2: is is lack of sleep. Lack of sleep, That's all

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Speaker 2: He explained that he will need to move to the

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Speaker 2: That left a small two foot by three foot area

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't allowed to accidentally let my foot touch

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Speaker 2: I lost my crap at this point. I started telling

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Speaker 2: him this was insane. To grow up and actually put

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Speaker 2: me first, or go marry your dogs. You can't put

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Speaker 2: your golden through slight discomfort and move them to the

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Speaker 2: move to the guest room. I would be choosing the path.

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Speaker 1: Of war raging.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, property would be damaged. The dogs. To

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Speaker 2: be clear, the dogs would be fine. Properties. Property would

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Speaker 3: I would be going to.

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Speaker 4: The guest room and not come back.

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Speaker 2: I'd be pulling him out of his bed. You go

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Speaker 4: I literally hate your husband.

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. Around this time, the dog that sleeps

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Speaker 2: He wants a divorce and they will always be more

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Speaker 2: important to him. He slept holding them so gently. Does

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Speaker 5: What is this dude gonna do when these dogs pass

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Speaker 2: This has to be a byproduct of some kind of trauma,

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Speaker 2: right like? This, This is a this is a trauma response,

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Speaker 2: right like? He absolutely like he he can't this, This

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Speaker 2: it's the marriage is over now. He just threatened divorce

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Speaker 2: as soon as he says he's saving the dogs over

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is the story of how I'm sitting upstairs

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got no more thoughts right now.

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Speaker 3: Your husband sucks.

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Speaker 2: The only reason that this could ever possibly make any

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Speaker 2: I pay at least a week's wages to see that dog.

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Speaker 3: That horse, see a dog on a horse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid twenty five cents in this context.

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Speaker 1: Can't release that information.

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Speaker 2: In this context, this is like back. You're saying this,

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Speaker 5: Saying you make twenty five cents, I'm only making.

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Speaker 2: hear they're bringing the dog and horse show in town today.

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Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? Wait?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What can you read that at?

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Speaker 4: Sentience?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: Don't make okay? The actual reason I haven't left my

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Speaker 2: Am I the A hole? Dude?

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Speaker 3: Where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: What? That's your only satous?

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Speaker 2: Amazing? Someone commented on one of the posts saying they

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Speaker 1: What where did this come from?

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Speaker 2: Girl?

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Speaker 1: Listen excuses none of his behavior what.

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Speaker 2: I am constantly grateful for my autistic friends. My husband

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Speaker 2: he says something mean, like he loves his dogs more

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Speaker 3: Why do you think that autistic people are just mean?

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Speaker 2: Why is that where we're going with this? What? Why

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Speaker 2: are we like? Ah?

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Speaker 6: Yes, every time he's an a hole to me, it

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Speaker 1: What is your reasoning? Op? That's it? Yeah, Sez, just

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Speaker 1: because he's obsessed with his dogs doesn't mean he's.

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Speaker 2: Autistic selective autism, he's just like fully like, well, it's

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Speaker 2: only selecting it only when she's only when he's mean

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Speaker 2: to me? Do I think he might have autism? Girl? Girl?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Op? I think you're reaching also really truly reaching here?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Billy time. Don't think I didn't see you make

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Speaker 2: that comment that said the whole dog and pony show

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Speaker 4: I didn't see.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw it. I saw it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could mean this is just going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this has gone off the rails.

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Speaker 5: Entirely say that he is, and that's where the obsession

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Speaker 5: of the dogs come in. That doesn't excuse the fact

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Speaker 5: that he's being like, yeah, I literally don't love you.

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Speaker 3: I want to forward your.

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Speaker 2: Daughter die instead of his dogs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what that was just a weird update.

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Speaker 2: Weird What if he's undiagnosed autistic and doesn't know he's

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Speaker 2: hurting me? I'm sorry, that's gross.

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Speaker 4: Did you just pukele it?

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Speaker 1: Someone? No clip that?

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Speaker 2: Please? You have never made that noise.

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Speaker 1: Not the way did it was.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just like I made that noise. It was

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Speaker 4: I thought you peeped a little.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry you guys caused this. I immediately got rage

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Speaker 1: Don't do it again. Just read the story.

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Speaker 3: Are you trying to make it happen?

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Speaker 2: No? No, I'm not. I had to swallow my snarf.

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Speaker 2: You're why your starve.

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Speaker 4: What is this?

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Speaker 1: What is that you're trying to snarf?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you?

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Speaker 4: What is it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Just read read the story.

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Speaker 4: It's so unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: That does sound like a combo things. Just stop stop.

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Speaker 2: It does say autism is a spectrum, though not everyone

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Speaker 2: socially acceptable, and genuinely acts like he doesn't see the harm.

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Speaker 1: I think your husband doesn't like you.

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Speaker 2: Then he'll say things like calling me a parasitic, infuriating,

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Speaker 2: everyone can't stand me and no one likes me. When

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Speaker 2: I tell him he's making me cry, he tells me

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Speaker 1: I think your husband doesn't like you, dude. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's autism. I think I've been putting it out there.

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Speaker 1: He really doesn't like you.

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Speaker 2: Today he told me not to be around him because

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Speaker 2: it's impossible for him not to verbally abuse me because

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Speaker 1: And she's jaw dropped. I heard it drop. The fact

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Speaker 1: I heard that drop from all the way every year

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Speaker 2: I am doubling, tripling, drupling down on my previous comment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, girl, I need you to stop saying that your

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Speaker 3: Your husband just hates you.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I stand up for myself and say no, I'm done,

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Speaker 2: mother abandoning her child. He's spent thirty four years of

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Speaker 2: if there was enmeshment and that's not his fault. What

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Speaker 2: if he was never mentally allowed to grow up? Why

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Speaker 2: did we marry a man who had lived at home

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Speaker 2: for thirty four years? I'm sorry? Why did Maybe we

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Speaker 2: should have waited a little bit longer to find out that.

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Speaker 2: He says stuff like you're a parasite and everyone hates you,

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Speaker 2: and I have to talk to you abusively because you

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Speaker 2: make me. He's got a complex.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, he leaves his dogs more than you.

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Speaker 2: He's clearly got a lot wrong, and maybe it's not

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Speaker 2: all his fault, but it's not your responsibilit to deal

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Speaker 1: It started with the dogs, but boy, what the hubby doing.

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Speaker 2: Started with the dogs And I know these dogs aren't

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Speaker 2: Airbud because Airbud would never associate with a man, so

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Speaker 2: for him that I feel like I can't divorce him

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Speaker 2: because he's mentally either been mistreated through enleishment or his

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Speaker 2: insecure due to undiagnosed autisms. Stop it, people keep asking

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Speaker 2: me why on earth I won't leave him. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to leave him alone in this possible diagnosis and

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Speaker 2: possible childhood trauma. I'd also feel so guilty if I

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Speaker 2: walk away. That's why I do love him, But I

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Speaker 2: this is okay. I know what I need to do

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Speaker 2: and I have to go through with the divorce. My

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Speaker 2: heart is just aching and hurting for him and posting

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Speaker 2: this because I genuinely need insight to maybe he help

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Speaker 2: me gain perspective as I move forward. And that is

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Speaker 2: the end of that story. I think you need to

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Speaker 2: stop diagnosing people with autism.

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Speaker 5: I really like op he was so like you were

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Speaker 5: being like I'm an advocate for autism.

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Speaker 6: Blah blah blah, you're giving it a terrible name. If

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Speaker 6: this is what we're like aligning it up with, there's

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Speaker 6: gotta be good, right, there's gotta have been You had

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Speaker 6: to have had good times, right.

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Speaker 2: I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he is on the spectrum. Him being the absolute

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Speaker 5: worst human to you is.

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Speaker 1: Not because of that, not an excuse either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's I can't imagine, Like actually, I uh,

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Speaker 2: I did do this hypothetical once with an X and

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Speaker 2: I was like, who would you save me or a hundred.

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Speaker 4: Squirrels from what situation?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And there was a moment of hesitation and I

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Speaker 2: was like, are you kidding me?

442
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: I know?

443
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: And they were just like, it's just that it's one

444
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: hundreds a lot. And I'm like, I'm a person garls

445
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: and squirrels are their favorite animal. And I was like,

446
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: how are you gonna hesitate? They were just like, I

447
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 2: don't know, It's just like I didn't expect to have

448
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: to sacrifice a hundred of them.

449
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, what about ninety?

450
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, of course I would pick you.

451
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: I just I couldn't say it right away because I imagined

452
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: it happening, and it was really sad. But yeah, I

453
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: stayed for a while. Yeah, actually, now that I think

454
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 2: about it, No, when was that. I don't know when

455
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: that was.

456
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: He's like, actually broke up because of that?

457
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: No, I think No, I think that happened a little

458
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: later in the timeline. But yeah, it definitely wasn't It

459
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: didn't sound evil. This one sounds evil. This one sounds

460
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: like he's like, yeah, and I would let you and

461
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: I would let you fry to a crisp while I

462
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: stood outside with my dogs and gave them treats, because

463
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: why should I save a parasite and their offspring. It's like, okay,

464
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: well I think i'll be I'll be finding the door now.

465
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: Ah what Yeah, yeah, divorce your husband.

466
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: That was not the tone of my hypothetical conversation.

467
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: But that was the end of that story.

468
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

469
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I still create the perfect system.

470
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband lied about cross.

471
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: Dressing Caesar and Balsamic.

472
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: This started when I found women's clothing that wasn't mine.

473
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I already know where this is going.

474
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh so he's like, no, babe.

475
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm not cheating on you.

476
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: I'm in the cross.

477
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: Dress wearing ladies clothes.

478
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 3: And at the time I thought my husband David was cheating.

479
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: I confronted David and the explanation was that it wasn't

480
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 3: an affair, but cross dressing that's fun. David had photos

481
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: that backed that up and said it wasn't a spicy

482
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: thing or something done in public.

483
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: Something done in public.

484
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: He said he was sorry for hiding it and that

485
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: fear of my reaction was what led to it. By

486
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: the way, this comes from Anonymous eighty three eleven, twenty seven,

487
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: eighty eight, ninety two to three. And if you want

488
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: to spend your own stories, go to the r slash

489
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 3: Okay storytime separate it.

490
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and we're here to give.

491
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: You good advice.

492
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 4: Goofilly. But we don't have all the answers.

493
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: We only know what we'd do, So let us know

494
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 3: what you would do in the comments and O pisas.

495
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: I honestly was not bothered about David wanting to cross

496
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: dress in private. Sometimes I mean, why can't you do in.

497
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Public because it's embarrassing. No, I'm just kidding.

498
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: I offered to buy clothes or makeup or give advice

499
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: on dressing like a woman.

500
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, maybe i'd take it back.

501
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes it could be. You know, sometimes it is embarrassing

502
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: to let your No, it's not that the act itself

503
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: is embarrassing, it's that sometimes it's embarrassing to be yourself

504
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: around others. You know, not that that's how it should be,

505
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: but it can definitely feel that way, you know. See

506
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: what you're saying, like, go try to just like dance

507
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: in public with music in your headphones and see how

508
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: he k it takes before you're uncomfortable.

509
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more so looking at like ohp, being like

510
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm fine.

511
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: It might just be it's hard to do stuff when

512
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: you inevitably will have people looking at you being like

513
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: that's wrong, that's wrong, and you shouldn't be doing that.

514
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: That's wrong.

515
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: I can honestly say I didn't care and was not upset.

516
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 3: But I found out that David lied about it not

517
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: being spicy related or something done in public, because there

518
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: had been meetups with other women and men to have

519
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: spicy sleep while cross dressing. So he didn't lie about

520
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: the cross dressing part. He just both had an affair

521
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: and was cross dressing.

522
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: It's a lot of layers to this little asagnia when

523
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: we got cooking right now? YEI yeah.

524
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: Him wanting to wear like dresses and things is totally fine.

525
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: Him cheating on his wife terrible. David's excuse after I

526
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 3: found out about the lie was not wanting to subject

527
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: me to it, and that even after I found out

528
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: and was supportive, it would have been too degrading and

529
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: disrespectful to me. You're right there, Bud, You're right there, David,

530
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: but was not sure about a spicy orientation or gender

531
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: identity when I asked. But he admitted to meeting at

532
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: least three dozen other men and women for spicy sleep

533
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: since the cross dressing started, even after I was supportive

534
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: and said I would be okay with spicy sleep during it. Wow,

535
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: you are incredibly supportive. So not only were you like

536
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 3: you know, obviously I'm fine with you wanting to dress

537
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: how you want to dress, but also I'm fine with

538
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 3: you sleeping with other people so that you can.

539
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: Find out your identity.

540
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: Is it?

541
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: Wow?

542
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: And he still supportive?

543
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: He still cheated on you.

544
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: What's the sturdier dish a lasagna or a musaka?

545
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: What for?

546
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: Isn't that like the Greek version of lasagna? What does

547
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: that have to do because we're building. There's a lot

548
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: of layers. Okay, gotcha, we're building, and now I want

549
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: the more support because there's a lot of support going

550
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: on from OP. So what kind I have no idea

551
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: what kind of dishyear we cook it up here, folks.

552
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 3: I've had to go and get tested because David didn't

553
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: use protection while having spicy sleep with any of these strangers.

554
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Immediate divorce, No, now it's a lot. No immediate.

555
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean like obviously it was divorced before, but like

556
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: faster go faster. Mostly I am heartbroken that David went

557
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: behind my back, lied even after I was supportive, and

558
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: is now trying to act like it's a mystery as

559
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: to why I'm filing for divorce and who cares about

560
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: what he thinks we were trying to conceive and all

561
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: this was going on too. I feel heartbroken and sick.

562
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: I love David, but there is no way our marriage survives.

563
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: No, there isn't.

564
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: I never thought I would ever be divorced, but I

565
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: guess everyone thinks it will never happen to them. I

566
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: haven't told anyone why yet. I'm going to, but until then,

567
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: you all get to be the first and common one.

568
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: David needs a never mind o P leave him. David

569
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: is a manipulative liar who thinks having spicy sleep with

570
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: other people because he's too nervous around you makes him

571
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: seem better. David lied twice, and not only did you

572
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: have to catch him, but he lied. Had you not

573
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: found those clothes, we had never known and you could

574
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: have ended up with an STD that could have unalived

575
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: you years later because he didn't think to tell you

576
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: that he was having spicy sleep with strangers instead of

577
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: his own wife, which he lied to because he was

578
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: oh so nervous, And instead of telling you the entire

579
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: truth the first time, he acted on compulsive lying behavior

580
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: and kept it all from you until you finally got

581
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: the truth out of them divorce. Good luck, Ope, And

582
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: there is an update.

583
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: But do you have any thoughts for Op?

584
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: Sorry?

585
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just I mean, like for OP to have

586
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: been the most supportive partner and then just get this

587
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: in return is terrible.

588
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you I thought we had a lasagna turn into

589
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: a big pilot slappy joke mudpie.

590
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: But there is an update.

591
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: But sorry that date I was just taking to the

592
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: skit from I think he should leave.

593
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: Not familiar anyway.

594
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: Two years later it ripped me up. I couldn't stay

595
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: after finding out David had cheated with so many people

596
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: and couldn't even remember how many there were.

597
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

598
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: That's even worse.

599
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty problematic, almost as problematic as Kim finds coming.

600
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: And I'll just let that one. Good job.

601
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: Kim rough at first, literally rough rough like ab Yeah, yes,

602
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: she did it at first. When everyone found out David

603
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: cheated on me so many times, I had a lot

604
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: of support. When David started living full time as a

605
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: woman and started seeing a therapist to deal with having

606
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: to hide that, a lot of the support dried up.

607
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: You really find out who your friends are when something

608
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: like this happens. Twelve years of knowing David was a lie,

609
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: I got lots of heat for not supporting David and

610
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: for leaving. That's ridiculous. You were so supportive.

611
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: In a strange circle. If that's the case for real, Yeah,

612
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: if I'm sorry.

613
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: If everyone said, oh, you didn't support I'd be like,

614
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what did he tell you?

615
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: What did she say? For real?

616
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Because I was incredibly supportive of her. Twelve years of

617
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: knowing David was a Lie. I got lots of heat

618
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: for not supporting David and for leaving it hurt. But

619
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: the upside is that I know who my true family

620
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: and friends are, even if most people supported David over me.

621
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: I filed for divorce in December of twenty twenty two,

622
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: and it was finalized six days ago because David didn't

623
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: want a divorce and tried to stop it while seeing

624
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: other people. Still, it was finalized six days ago, a

625
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: day after our anniversary.

626
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm over it now.

627
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: I moved away from Vancouver and I have a new

628
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: job and know who my real family and friends are.

629
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: There were some nice comments on my last post.

630
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: Which I appreciated so much.

631
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: Comment one says, cheating is still cheating, regardless of whether

632
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: someone is exploring to find themselves. Yes, you are absolutely

633
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: allowed to need time to figure out who you are,

634
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: but if you're in a relationship, then you have to

635
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: communicate that or leave that relationship. It is not fair

636
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: to your partner. It's a marriage and they should be

637
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: sharing that with you and not using their confusion for

638
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: trash behavior. Good luck to you as you move forward.

639
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 3: And there's another update three years later.

640
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: But I hope it's like I'm doing living a new life,

641
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: and David reached out and was like, I was so

642
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: far out of line for doing that and also expecting

643
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: you to be okay with it. Yeah, and I'm sorry

644
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: and I don't expect your forgiveness. I just wanted to say.

645
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, like David using I'm gonna use there, because

646
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: we don't know what pronounced.

647
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: David goes by.

648
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, David.

649
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, David, or but David using their transition, like weaponizing

650
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: it against you with your guys's mutual friends and making

651
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: you seem like the bad person when all you've done

652
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: is support And then yeah, I don't know, just like

653
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: justifying David's cheating with their transition is wild. Update three

654
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: years later, Hey y'all, it's.

655
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: John og Host here.

656
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a

657
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: quick three minute break from as for more sponsors.

658
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: This will be the last time I post about this

659
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: because I want to move on. I am divorced and

660
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: I have a new life and that part of my

661
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: life is over. To give a short recap of my

662
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: last post, I found out my ex spouse was into

663
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: cross dressing. I was told it was a personal thing

664
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: behind closed doors, and I honestly didn't mind having it

665
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: in our bedroom. However, it turned out my ex spouse

666
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: cheated on me with more men and women than could

667
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: be counted. When I filed for divorce because of the cheating,

668
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: my ex spouse came out as transgender. People turned on

669
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: me when my expouse came out, even if they were

670
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: initially supportive after finding out I left because of the cheating. Again,

671
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: I don't understand how they could know about the cheating

672
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: and then take away their support.

673
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: Because they are weirdo Vancouver ins and they can be

674
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: weird where I've just I don't Okay, to be clear,

675
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't think all people in Vancouver are weird. I

676
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: just remember they said that's where they were from. These

677
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: were just weirdos in Vancouver's what I'm trying to say.

678
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: I didn't understand that.

679
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: I immediately realized. I was like, wait a minute, wait,

680
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: that sounded like I was saying all the Vancouver is weird.

681
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh clip it. You just had weird You just said.

682
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: It clear but clearly whoever you were rolling with. If

683
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: they were like saying you were the bad guy in

684
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: this situation, what.

685
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: You really find out who your friends and loved ones

686
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: are when something like this happens. It ripped me apart

687
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 3: inside to first lose my ex spouse and then have

688
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: everyone else abandoned me. My divorce took a long time

689
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: because my ex was transitioning, and also because the divorce

690
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: was only wanted on my part and not theirs. My

691
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: update is that we are now divorced, but more than

692
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: five months after the divorce, my expouse has asked me

693
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: for another chance to rekindle the relationship.

694
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: No, what, No, what do you mean? I know, I

695
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: know I cheated on you dozens of times.

696
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: No cheat on you, but would you really consider.

697
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: You can look past that my spouse wants to give

698
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: or my ex wants to give things another go. Even

699
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: after admitting to cheating on me with more women and

700
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: men than I could count, I had to threaten to

701
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: get a restraining order to make my ex lead me alone.

702
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: After I found out about the cheating, I moved to

703
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: a new city, found a new job, and started rebuilding

704
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: my life after being abandoned by pretty much everyone, I

705
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: left Vancouver and moved to another part of the province

706
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: to start over. I didn't want to get pulled back

707
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: into my old life after my ex destroyed me and

708
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: shattered my heart. I want to thank everyone who supported

709
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: me in the comments and was kind that help more

710
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: than I could tell you, especially since everyone I was

711
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: close to in real life.

712
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: Seemed to abandon me.

713
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

714
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: There is a little bit left to this story, but

715
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry Op to go through all of that,

716
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: being the most supportive person and partner, and then to

717
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: have this response the craziest thought.

718
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: What I mean, I think Canada made it like hate

719
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: like hate speech prosecutable, right, like very very prosecutable. I believe. Huh,

720
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: what if all of your friends were literally worried that

721
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: if they spoke out against this person that they could

722
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: be used against them in court, and that's why they

723
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: they couldn't support you.

724
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: Now that's a conspiracy, that's a very huge conspiracy. But

725
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: they also would have messaged OPI on the side and

726
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I'm with you, just like you know.

727
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: I support you, I support you, I support your rights,

728
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: but I don't support your wrongs.

729
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: That'd be crazy, that would be a conspiracy there.

730
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left. One other thing

731
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: I wanted to note is that I have absolutely no

732
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: problem with transgender or attracted the same gender people, none

733
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: at all. I wasn't trying to dead name my ex

734
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: spouse in my other posts. I was just using the

735
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: same name throughout so it wouldn't be confusing. The name

736
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: I picked when I made my first post was a

737
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: fake name anyway, and not my ex's real name.

738
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to offend anyone.

739
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: I know some comments and messages I got sent were

740
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: angry at me for that, but it wasn't my intention.

741
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: I also use the name instead of pronouns to make

742
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: it less confusing. It was never my tension to hurt

743
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: or upset anyone.

744
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: So crazy that this person cheated on you dozens of

745
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: times and there's people worried about you using a fake

746
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: name them, Well, I feel like that's crazy.

747
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: How Ope is?

748
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: That's crazy to me.

749
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: I think that's how APE has been treated by their

750
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: friends too. It seems like everyone is making this more

751
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: of a like Ope's ex's transition the main focus when

752
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: OPE has never been anything but supportive except when they

753
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: were cheated on, and everyone's like glossing over that. And

754
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: I think that's super unfair because Op, he's still clearly

755
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: giving this person like a lot of I don't know,

756
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: just like support in who they are, even in how

757
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: they write it, and yet is dealing with being betrayed

758
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: and everyone else is focusing on something, you know, focusing

759
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: on how I don't know her exes experience, and that's

760
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: really tough, common one. I'm having a hard time understanding

761
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: why your friends and family would turn on you for

762
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 3: leaving someone who so brazenly betrayed you. A gender andy

763
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: crisis is not a license to cheat on your spouse,

764
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: and it's crazy anyone would think you'd have any fault

765
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: in that. You add the rug pulled out from you

766
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: in the harshest way possible, and those people should have

767
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: been there to support you. I'm sorry you went through that,

768
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: and that is the end of that story.

769
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so sorry.

770
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: Opee wow, Yeah, you're not at fault here wowsers.

771
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story. And we've got

772
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: another one.

773
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: My husband's co worker ruined many marriages, including mine.

774
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: Get out of My life.

775
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: This comes directly from the arch Lash showcase story time shpwritty,

776
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: Oh boay. So my husband, thirty six male works for

777
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: a large construction company well known in the US. So I,

778
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: thirty five female, am going to try to make this

779
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: as anonymous and short as possible. By the way, this

780
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: comes from user Simple Advanced nine thousand and one, and

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Speaker 2: the r slash Okay storytime Separate where this story was submitted.

783
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we are here

784
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: to give you good advice goofily, but we don't have

785
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: all the answers. We only know what we would do,

786
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: so if you would do something to let us know

787
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: when the comments no pieces. Some backstory, My husband Michael

788
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: was working on a job that was honestly amazing because

789
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: the workers and their families all moved the location of

790
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: the job and it became like our own little community.

791
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: There were tons of family days or evenings at the

792
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: job site and company gatherings, as well as girls' night

793
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: once a month or so, where all the women and

794
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: wives since there aren't many women in this field, would

795
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: have dinner and do a fun activity. So needless to say,

796
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: we were all very close and knew each other well.

797
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: This will be relevant later anyways. An awesome perk of

798
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: his job is that subcontractors will take them on trips

799
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: like fishing, hunting, and other things like that, which is

800
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: great because the sos sometimes get to tag along. Now

801
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: to the situation in question at hand. About three years ago,

802
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: my husband thirty three at the time, and about five

803
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: other guys were invited on a weekend fishing trip in

804
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: another state. Females were invited as well, which was very usual,

805
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: so nothing odd there, But only one decided to go,

806
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: and that is odd considering that there was now only

807
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: one female employee, twenty seven, Jan, who asked to tag along. Usually,

808
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: if at least two women aren't going, none will go. Still,

809
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: she went with five married men that are all in

810
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: positions above her. But whatever, we were all very close

811
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: and she had her own room and she likes to fish,

812
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: so no big deal. I agree on its face, I

813
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: agree that that is no big deal.

814
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

815
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Well, needless to say, Michael messed up and got wasted

816
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 2: and he ended up making out with Jan in her

817
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: room one night.

818
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 3: Oh it did, big deal.

819
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big deal.

820
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 4: That's a big deal. Her liking to fish, not a

821
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: big deal.

822
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: Her making out with Michael, big deal.

823
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: Who's Michael again?

824
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Husband? Oh Pi's husband.

825
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I thought.

826
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: I was very big deal.

827
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

828
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: They continued to text for about a month. Oh and

829
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: of course Jan is his coworker and he gets texts

830
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: and calls all the time, so Michael had no reason

831
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: to hide his phone from me, and I had no

832
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: reason to check because it was work. When I finally

833
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: got really suspicious of his behavior, I checked his phone

834
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: while he was sleeping and found the tech thread from Jan.

835
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 2: I know they were flirting, but honestly, I don't remember everything.

836
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: Of course I'm not stupid, so I said nothing to

837
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: him until after I messaged Jan and got her side

838
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: of the story. That way, they had no time to

839
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: come up with a story together since he was still

840
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: asleep at the time. That's in the past and an

841
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: entire story in itself, But we went to counseling, et cetera,

842
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: and now we're better than ever. Well, in the messages

843
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: I received from Jan, she informed me that this kind

844
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: of thing happened all the time, since she's a female

845
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: in a male dominated field, and a lot of times

846
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: men will take her being polite as an opening. Of course,

847
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: I called her out on that, considering she was one

848
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: hundred percent flirting with my husband and she knows he's married,

849
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: and she's even watched our kids before. Needless to say,

850
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: she has clearly had issues or situations like this in

851
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: the past at different jobs if that was her first

852
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: line of defense. So fast forward a few months and

853
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: there was another event that only four workers and their

854
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: significant others were invited to. I started adding with one

855
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: of the other wives, Pam thirty four, about jan and

856
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: the whole situation with my husband. Well, she informed me

857
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: that her and her husband, Jim thirty five, almost got

858
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: a divorce because of freaking jam Jan. Stop it.

859
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: Jan's going around to different different fishing hose and she's

860
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: cast in her line into other people's fishing holes. Stop it,

861
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: stop it.

862
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Who are you? What's that? I don't know? This fishing

863
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: whole character made appearance.

864
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: Step getsting your line your lesdy.

865
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: Lady Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice Claire's.

866
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: Thomas, step getting your line?

867
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay. She was texting him every day, sending him pictures

868
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: asking how she looked. You look the same, You look

869
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: like Jan. I assume her name is jan Ice, it

870
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: should be Demane. So because she's being jeru u jah rude. Okay,

871
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: that went off the rails. Clarence Thomas, bring it Home,

872
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: Nice Clarence, A classic Clarence Thomas grunt love that one. Okay,

873
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: she was texting him every day, sending him pictures asking

874
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: how she looked. Just very inappropriate things to be saying

875
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: to a married superior. Should Jim have shut it down? Yes,

876
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: but that's not the point at the moment. So I

877
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: proceeded to tell Pam all about what happened on the

878
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: fishing trip, and another one of my husband's co workers, Oscar,

879
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: overheard and yet didn't seem surprised at all. Oscar also

880
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: hinted that this was an ongoing thing with Jan, and

881
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: yet no one will report her because Jan only seems

882
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: to do this with her superiors. I mean, I'll give

883
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: it to her. At least when Jan does this, she

884
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: makes sure it's with someone who could easily get fired

885
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: if she made any reports, or who would get reprimanded

886
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: themselves for getting involved with a worker that reports to them. Well,

887
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: once the job they were all on together ended, everyone

888
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: got sent to job sites again, and I thought that

889
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: was that and we were done with Jan. But I

890
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: was wrong. Now fast forward to this year, and my

891
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: husband informed me that he might be getting a promotion

892
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: earlier than we expected because the employee that was supposed

893
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: to be getting the promotion next was having a year's

894
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: long affair with Jan. She knowingly had an affair with

895
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: a married man with young kids. And it just blows

896
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: my mind that still no one has reported her. This

897
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: all came out within the past month or so, and

898
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: it has really pissed me off that she continues to

899
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: wreck marriages and families and no one will say anything

900
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: to hr. She is obviously not the only one to

901
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: blame here, but I mean, come on, yeah, I really

902
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: think we need to be spreading the blame around to

903
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: everyone involved. Yeah, why are all of these married menlocking

904
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: their lips with Jan?

905
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: Oh, married man, stop.

906
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: Poking up with Jan Staniel Bonds. Well, my final thought

907
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: is that Jan's a stinky lady and uh, honestly, so,

908
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: no one's got a reporter. And then get all of

909
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: these other superior guys fired too, take them all out

910
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: one go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I commend you for working through that and then

912
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: being okay with him still working at the same company. Yes,

913
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Speaker 2: it's a lot to ask for.

914
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Speaker 4: You did cheat on you.

915
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Speaker 2: And we have a little bit more. Let's finish this story.

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Speaker 1: these delectable stories.

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Speaker 2: My best friend said that I should anonymously report her

921
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: to hr AT headquarters, but my husband said to jest

922
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Speaker 2: to leave it. The thing that baffles me is that

923
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: she isn't even getting promoted or special privileges out of

924
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: any of this, and she's actually amazing at her job

925
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: and doesn't need to sleep her way to any opportunity.

926
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Speaker 2: I'm almost positive Jan and the promotion past employee stopped

927
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Speaker 2: seeing each other once his wife found out. I'm not

928
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: out for revenge, but I just don't want to see

929
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Speaker 2: her get sent out to another job and continue to

930
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: destroy families. So should I report her or stay out

931
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Speaker 2: of it?

932
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 4: I think you lied to me. I don't think Michael

933
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Speaker 4: is the husband. I think you lied. I think you're

934
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: a bold flace slash. You're a free flace sladder.

935
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: Some backstory my husband call him Michael. Okay?

936
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Speaker 4: Then why wait? I okay?

937
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: Then I am genuinely confused because your husband said you

938
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: should just leave it. Of course, he said that he

939
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: cheated on you. They worked through it, but like obviously

940
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: he was, he would be the one to say, yeah,

941
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: I just leave it, because he would be in trouble.

942
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: It sounds like if this ball starts to roll down

943
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: the hill, the entire office is going to end up single, imploded.

944
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's to be dating dating her.

945
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: I think maybe this comes from if you've worked through it,

946
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 2: more of a place of youth, because I'm afraid I'll

947
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: lose my job. Yeah, and then that means bad news

948
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: for us.

949
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

950
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: I think that you need to work somewhere else. You

951
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: can't be working.

952
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you should definitely be looking for a job

953
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: opportunity in other places. Yeah. One thousand. Yeah, we have

954
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: some comments. So your husband cheated and his coworker was

955
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: also engaging in talks with her outside of work. Yet

956
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: this is all her fault. How about you tell your

957
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: edge been to keep it in his pain Loons. He's

958
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: the married one. He should be saying no if he

959
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: cared so much about keeping his family together. Same with

960
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: the other coworker. They are all grown men. It is

961
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: up to them to make their own choices, good or bad.

962
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: Maybe you should report your husband for being the home wrecker.

963
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Since he's the one who made the choice to wreck it.

964
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: Reply says, I have a feeling she might be one

965
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: of those partners who constantly forgives her husband's cheating and

966
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: constantly blames the other girl instead of the real bad guy,

967
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: her husband coming number two. You can try to report

968
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: Jan if you want, I guess, But if you're staying

969
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: with your husband, how long until he meets the next Jan?

970
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: She sucks? I don't know with girls who knowingly sleep

971
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: with taken men and wouldn't be friends with her. But

972
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: in that same vein, I wouldn't be married to a cheater.

973
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: She can't wreck a home that your husband doesn't allow

974
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: her into. That's simple. Jan didn't happen to these men.

975
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: They chose to cheat with her.

976
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Speaker 4: Especially because they were all her superiors.

977
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: One, they shouldn't be having any sort of relationship with

978
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: her even if they weren't, you know, in marriages. But

979
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: they are in marriages, so it's doubly bad.

980
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: It's just all bad, all around, all the time, all bad.

981
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: One hundred.

982
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: I really don't want to win. The only thing. I

983
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: just don't understand how you could report Jan without getting

984
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: your husband in trouble.

985
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's because point.

986
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, your husband was a major part of that because

987
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: he cheated on you.

988
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how major. It says they made out.

989
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: There's other people who I'm sure have done a little

990
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: bit more than that.

991
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: No, yeah, my point is a major part of that

992
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: relationship because he was half of it, right half, you know,

993
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: But it tango exactly.

994
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: Your husband will probably also lose his promotion when you

995
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: say they had an affair. And of a reply to

996
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: this is if your husband got the promotion because the

997
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: other man had an affair with jan hr almost certainly

998
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: knows about it. Now, it's not really your busines this

999
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: to report and affairs she had with someone else's husband,

1000
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: especially since you don't work there. Better keep it close.

1001
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, just kind of hypocritical, I think, Yeah.

1002
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I uh, I like I think you did.

1003
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: Just need to get away from this situation. She need

1004
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: to leave. It's probably the best for your relationship.

1005
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: If you want to work on your relationship, then you

1006
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: have to get out of here. You could tell the wife.

1007
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if reporting it to the company would

1008
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: be good.

1009
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: You'd better keep a close eye on your husband after

1010
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: the promotion though, and if she crosses the line with

1011
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: him again, then you have some standing to address the

1012
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: situation with your husband's company. A third comment says, reporting

1013
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: her is going to open the door to question your

1014
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: husband another male workers professionalism and interactions with her, especially

1015
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: considering she was often the only female coworker and they

1016
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: were all her male superiors. She may be a home wrecker,

1017
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: but you are trying to ruin her life and making

1018
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: other families collateral damage in the process. Your time to

1019
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: speak up expired when you took your husband back, and

1020
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: the end of that.

1021
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: Story necessarily true.

1022
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: But I do think I think it's time to get

1023
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: out of there.

1024
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: You need to leave that time, get out.

1025
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Of ten down and find a brand new job. Yeah,

1026
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: get at it. Actually, I mean, if you've worked through

1027
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: it with your husband at this point, you've done that, Yeah,

1028
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: I will. We take you at your word for that.

1029
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: You've worked through it and things you're fine now.

1030
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just don't under you.

1031
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, get continuing to work that. It's it blows my

1032
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: mind that if y'all did work through it, part of

1033
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: that wasn't and we're finding a new place for you

1034
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: to work.

1035
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: It just feels like everyone is like you and don't

1036
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: grow on. Other people are blaming jan as this kind

1037
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: of seductress when she is a sucky person who has

1038
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 3: having affairs with married men.

1039
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 4: But the married men are having affairs with.

1040
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: Her, right everyone in the situation is choosing to do

1041
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: these things.

1042
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 4: Exactly like she's awful.

1043
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 3: But it's not like you can go and report her

1044
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: and be like, she's having an affair with these married men.

1045
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 3: It's like, no, all of the men would be caught

1046
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: up in that. You know, they should all receive repercussions.

1047
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: So I think it's just reframed.

1048
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: But that is the end of that.

1049
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story and the end

1050
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Speaker 4: of this episode.

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