1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready, Shit's about to hit 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: the fan. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to on sanctioned Thursday's a wrestling with Friday. What's 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: up everybody? Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursday. You guys wanted a 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: longer show, We couldn't give you a longer one, but 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: we can give you an extra one on a different day. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: So thank you for tuning in, Thanks for demanding it. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: This is your all show and we are bringing back 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: our Indie Spotlight and today we're I don't know how 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: long he's going to be in the indies because he's 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: really really good. But his name is Nick Nolan from Brooklyn, 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: New York. He's currently in Davenport, Iowa. Welcome you are 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: first guest of the year, first Indie Spotlight of the year. 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Nick Nolan. How are you? 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm great, man. I appreciate that and say all the 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: other things that I told you to say. Keep putting 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: me over that. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, No, we love you man. I got our producer, 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Alex gives me good information on all the indie wrestlers 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: that come, so I get to kind of see who's 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: going to be the next generation, the ones who are 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: going to get the next opportunities, ones that might be 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: further away, but we believe in them and we like 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: where they're at right now. I think you're further down 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: that road. I see you as somebody who's going to 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: get an opportunity sooner than later. You were born and 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: raised in Brooklyn, New York. My wife's a New Yorker. 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: New Yorkers are interesting people because, like I've seen your promos. 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Your promos are really good, and you represent all the 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: things that I think people love about New Yorkers, Whereas 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: there's another New Yorker right that people go, oh, that 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: guy's so obnoxious. Da da da da. It's hard to balance, 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: I think the line between confidence and cockiness, but yours 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: you come off very naturally confident. Is that something you've 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: always been or is it or is it something that 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: you just have a lot of faith as of late? Like, 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: what is it that makes you come off so clean 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: on the mic and on camp? 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question, to be completely honest. 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: I haven't always been this way. I've dealt with my 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: own things, but on the mic, I've always felt that 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: that was my bread and butter. You know, I've practiced 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of promos looking in the mirror, you know, fifteen 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: twenty minutes long, like I'm practicing to open up raw 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: and showing that, you know, I'm sorry for cursing. No, 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: you can curse all you you know, But it's just 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: something that because I know I'm very limited in what 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: I can do in the ring. I don't do the flips, 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't do the dives, I don't do any of that. 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: But I believe in order to really captivate people, you 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: have to have them feel a certain way, you know, 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do every time I 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: grab the microphone, whether it's a short promo, long promo. 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: But for me, I always try to find my truth 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: when I do it. So no matter what I say, 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: as long as there's something in there that I really 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: really believe, the rest will come off organic. If that 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: makes sense. 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: It makes a ton of sense. The only thing that 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: I would bounce back at you with is I don't 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: find you limited at all. It's just a different style 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: of wrestling, right like, like Matt Cardona is not limited, 63 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: He's just different. He doesn't flip and fly all over 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: the place, right like, he has a different you know 65 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: he has a like Liam Neeson, I have a special 66 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: set of skills, like those are his skills, those are 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: your skill, you know what I mean. So I find 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: all you guys to be artistic. You know that what 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: you were saying, you want to give people a reason 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: to care. Like That's why I grew up loving Jackie 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Chan movies. You know, I love the fight scenes because 72 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: it was art right, it was like choreography and beautiful. 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: But you loved Jackie Chan, at least my generation did, 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: because he was so sweet and he was the ultimate babyface. 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: He was never going to be a heel. I don't 76 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: think he ever played a bad guy in his life. 77 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: But you cared about him so you wanted you had 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: a rooted interest in the fight, and you wanted him 79 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: to to to you know, to beat all these Dutch 80 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: kickboxers that he had brought in to beat the shit 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 2: out of in these movies. So I've always compared that 82 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: to kind of professional wrestling in in this in a 83 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: similar ways, you have to care about these people, and 84 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: that's why the promo is so important. I also want 85 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: to throw in and you said you've practiced promos for 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: opening raw. That's nob dude, that's such like what's what's uh? 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: What is the what is the term where you where 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: you're manifesting? Thank you? Oh, you're literally manifesting things to happen. 89 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: You're seeing it, you're visualizing it. I used to do 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: that with like certain movies. I would like literally like 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: movies that I loved that had already been filmed and 92 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: I'd have no chance to book. I would practice those 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: monologues in the mirror and do it as if I 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: was auditioning for that movie the next day and my 95 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: life depended on it. I remember this actor told me, 96 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: you need to treat every audition like it's your first 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: and your last, And it took me a while to 98 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: figure that out. And then I was like, oh, yeah, 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: you're first because you're hungry, and your last because if 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: it was the last time you were ever going to 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: get an opportunity to perform, what would you want these 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: fuckers to see? And that hit me like so hard 103 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: when he said that. And so when I see somebody 104 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: with a good promo, I always try to give them 105 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: that same piece of advice that that it was Brendan Fraser, 106 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: that Brendan Fraser gave me, which is treat Repromo like 107 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: it's your first one and your last one, and it 108 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: makes you really think about what you want to say. Man, 109 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: And I think your promos are so good that I 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: just wanted to share that with you. And maybe it 111 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: even takes it to another fucking level, who knows, But 112 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: I just wanted to share that because it helped me 113 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: a ton as an artist. 114 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Man, that is so profound. 115 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: It wasn't my saying. It was somebody far more pro 116 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: George of the Jungle. 117 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: It's the same thing, that's right, you know. So it's 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: like that that's so deep. And I appreciate you mentioning 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: manifestation because that's something that I really like. That's the 120 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: reason why I'm here man, you know, like that's how 121 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I got with you and connected with you. It's it's 122 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: such a profound part of my identity now, and I 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: don't know, I have so much I could say about 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: that and how I got to where I was and 125 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: things happened for a reason, and how I'm even here 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: right here in Davenport, Iowa. Yeah, you know, it's like 127 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to take up too much time. 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: With no do you take up as much time as 129 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: you want man, people want to get to know you. 130 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: So anything you want to share in your comfortable share 131 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: and dude, please share. 132 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: So I started wrestling. Here we go. I started wrestling 133 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. I first went to Landstorm's wrestling Academy 134 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: in Calcariata, and from there I moved back to New 135 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: York and then I started training with Tommy Dreamer actually 136 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: gave me my first match, and the night of my 137 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: first match was the night that Bully Ray attacked him 138 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: at like a house show and it turned into a 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: whole angle for her TNA. And with my first match, 140 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: a couple of days before, Tommy says he's going over 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: the card and we're at training and he says we're 142 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna have a bat Royal and I want you in it. 143 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like okay. He's like, I want to see 144 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: you that sweet ass power slam that you do, and 145 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: so I'm like, okay, Well, I don't have a name 146 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: and I don't have gear, so how is this gonna work? 147 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 2: Right? Right? 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: So he actually came up with my name. My first 149 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: ever wrestling name was Nick Owens. And he chose Owen 150 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: for the same reason Kevin Owens does. Is because owen 151 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Hart Calgary, Canada, that that's where I trained, So I 152 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that would make sense. So I don't 153 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: use that because of Kevin Owens now. But the thing 154 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: that I will never ever forget and he'll probably never 155 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: ever remember this is I told him I didn't have 156 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: any gear, and he says, all right, come to class 157 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: on Thursday or whatever it is, I'll give you some gear. 158 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, that's weird, but sure. So Tommy 159 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Jumer comes and he says, here, try this on. And 160 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the pants that he gives me, I don't know if 161 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: they're the same ones he uses now, but they're the 162 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: black pants with the dusty Rhodes polka dots on him, 163 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: and he says, here, try these on. They did not 164 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: fucking fit at all, right. They were gigantic on me. 165 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: So I was like, this isn't gonna work. I have 166 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: no gear. So I wound up borrowing a black singlet 167 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: from somebody and did the show. And the cool part 168 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: about this is I was always self conscious about performing 169 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: in front of my family. I had invited my dad 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: to the show before I knew I was going to 171 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: be on it. 172 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, And. 173 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: So we had gone to the show and then I said, Hey, 174 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to be on this show. And he was 175 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: there for my very first match. And what's crazy is 176 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: not too long ago he sent me a picture of 177 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: the ticket from that show. He kept it like I 178 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: have chills now thinking about it. 179 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Like you gave me goosebumps. Man. That was like, you know, 180 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: that was my childhood dream man was to like be 181 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: able to show off to my dad or something, and 182 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: I never got that. So when I see when I 183 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: see somebody you just said, he took a picture of 184 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: it and send it to you, like you get to 185 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: have that memory forever, bro forever. 186 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: And the best part about that was I didn't know 187 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: where he was sitting, so I didn't I didn't get nervous. 188 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: You didn't Oh you're so lucky, you know, that's great. 189 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: So I didn't know where he was sitting, so I 190 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: couldn't be like, oh, my dad, that's right there. But 191 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: that was an incredible experience. And that was the only 192 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: match I had until I went to WPW in twenty fifteen. 193 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: And what WPW is, and I know you're familiar with this, 194 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: it's Brian Kendrick's promotion Wrestling Pro Wrestling and Brian Kendrick 195 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: is in my opinion him and Seth Rollins the most 196 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: brilliant fucking minds in wrestling. But his promotion is comedy wrestling, 197 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: which is ironym is. I can't stand comedy wrestling. So 198 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: he had me on his show and I was in 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: a triple threat match. So at the time, I had 200 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: just moved to California and my last job that I 201 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: had was I worked at FedEx and I still had 202 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: all the FedEx gear, right. 203 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: Oh my god, of course. 204 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Oh, so we had a match. It was me, My 205 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: name was fred X, Frederick X. No, you're gonna pop 206 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: at this, You're gonna pop up this versus Loups who 207 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: had a UPS. 208 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Outfit, Oh my god, and a guy. 209 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Named Cedric the Hitman, but today he was Cedric the Mailman, 210 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: And so it was a triple threat match. And for 211 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: all I remember was at the end of the match, 212 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: I had a frying pan and I smacked someone in 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: the head with a frying pan and he no longer 214 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: worked at UPS and now he was somebody else. 215 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: Dude, wrestling. Pro wrestling is so much money. If I 216 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: would have been there and worked there back in the day, 217 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: I literally would have been like, Yo, he's got to 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: pull the frying pan out of a fed xbox, like 219 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: as if it had been delivered to you, bro, Like 220 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 221 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: It's funny. I now it's jogging my memory. It might 222 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: have been that. It might have been it out of 223 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: a box. It might have been that. Yeah, And dude, 224 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: I had like we had the envelopes and everything, and 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: my catcher I could have been. 226 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: You had the envelopes, we had. 227 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: Slopes and had me caught a promo before the match, 228 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: and I ripped off John Cena here. But my go 229 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: home line with that was the package is here. 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's great. That's so great wrestling pro 231 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: wrestling for those of you guys who don't know, and 232 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: I've spoke about it, maybe like season one or season 233 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: two of this show. I did not want to go, 234 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: and Xavier Woods was like, you have to go, and 235 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: I was like, man, people make fun of wrestling. I 236 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: don't want to see a comedy wrestling show. That that's no. 237 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: I want to see. Like really, he goes they do 238 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: one real match a night, it'll be the main event. 239 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: He's like, just come, like, okay, I go. 240 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: We go to the show. And the show opens and 241 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: this dude walks out on his on his knees and 242 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: he looks like a little wizard. And his name is 243 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: the Great Brenzino. He's named after a fish. And he 244 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: goes out and I'm like, how's this guy gonna work? Man, 245 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: He's not going to work on his knees, Like this 246 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: is ridiculous. Well, they were smarter than I was. And 247 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: he comes out and he goes not wrestle tonight, for 248 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: I have contracted a magical transmitted disease. I have harpies. 249 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Instead of herpies, he had fucking harpies, which is like 250 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: D and D shit. This guy was so in character 251 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, what is this? And then it 252 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: turned into Diehard the movie, and it was a Christmas 253 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: show and then we got one real match at the 254 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: end where these two guys almost killed each other and 255 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: one guy jumped so high I almost went through the 256 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: roof of the Sportsman's Lodge because it was a low ceiling, 257 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: like a ten foot ceiling. Oh you know you remember 258 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: you've been there. And I literally fell in love with 259 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: comedy wrestling in two hours. It took two, probably two minutes, 260 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: but in a two hour show. By the time we left, 261 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: I was completely in love with it, and I went 262 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: to a bunch of shows after that. I love that 263 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: you went there, But you also trained under Brian as well, 264 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: and you learned a lot from him. 265 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So Brian, like I said, he's a brilliant mind, 266 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: and his training is intense because he's trained with Sean 267 00:12:53,600 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: Michaels and you know, other people, and he's so hands 268 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: on with the training. And the best part about it 269 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: is if you can survive his training, you can survive anywhere. 270 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: But the the friendship that you develop with him, which 271 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: turns into like the you know, being able to pick 272 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: his brain. And like, I don't know if you saw this, 273 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: but I I took a hiatus from wrestling for a 274 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: little while, and when I came back, I went back 275 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: to him, and he wasn't coaching anymore at his school, 276 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: but he says, Hey, if you wanna, if you want to, 277 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, pick my brain, come to my house every Tuesday. 278 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: So this is when he was in WWE. So he 279 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: would do two or five live or whatever it was 280 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: on Monday, and then I'd be at his house on 281 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: fucking Tuesday morning, which is crazy, and so I would 282 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: go every single Tuesday and we would just PLoP down 283 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: on his couch and either play Mortal Kombat or uh, 284 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: he'd throw on wrestling. And here's here's how brilliant this 285 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: man is. Right, I'll never forget this. He types some 286 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: bullshit into you tube, right, and it was uploaded at 287 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: the time, so at the time it was fourteen years ago, 288 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: but now it's probably more like eighteen years ago. And 289 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: it was black and white French wrestling from like nineteen 290 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: forty two. And here's the best part. It had like 291 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: seventeen views in fourteen years. How the fuck did you 292 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: find this? 293 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: For real, real, for really like a wrestling savant. 294 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: And so we sat there and he's like pointing out 295 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: all these things and he's like, oh, wrestling can be 296 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: anything you wanted to be. Look at this, look at that. 297 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: This is why they do this, this is why I 298 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: like this. And it's like, holy shit, man, Like I'm 299 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: getting it. And at the time there was a lot 300 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: that I didn't get, But as I mature and wrestle myself, 301 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what he fucking meant. That's that's what 302 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: he meant. He would say something and I'd be like okay, sure, yeah, 303 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: all right, I get it. I didn't, but now I do. 304 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: You know, But it's that seed that they plant, right, 305 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: and you can't really nurture that seed and see what 306 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: it rose to until you have the experience to understand it. 307 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: Like we don't know what we don't know until we 308 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: know it, right, So experience, I think helps us get there. 309 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, like you're doing something and 310 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: something he said clicks in your head at the same 311 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: time and you hear his voice and it's I've had 312 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: these aha moments as an actor and that's like that's 313 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: what my acting coach meant in nineteen ninety seven, Like, 314 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, and I'm in my forties still figuring 315 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: stuff out, you know what I mean. So I'm totally 316 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: with you on that. I want to jump if you're 317 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: cool with it, from Brian to where you went next 318 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: with Seth at Black and Brave. Can you talk about 319 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: that experience and just the trans and the reason why and. 320 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: All that good stuff. So the reason why was simply 321 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: because Brian wasn't coaching anymore in the ring and I 322 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: needed to get back in the ring. I can sit 323 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: there on his couch in Venice every Tuesday. But unless 324 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually training and actually wrestling, it's not going to 325 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: get me anywhere. So what's crazy is I remember once 326 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: he told me. I was devastated, and I was like, 327 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: what am I going to do? Where am I going 328 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: to go? And there was some schools in California. I'm like, 329 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to do that. And so 330 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: I just happened to be watching one of Set's documentaries 331 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: on the Network or whatever they had it on at 332 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: that time, and I was like, oh shit, that's right, 333 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: he has a school. So I'm going to give you 334 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: a timeframe here, because this is crazy talk about like 335 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: manifesting things. This was I want to say, the third 336 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: week of April twenty twenty two. So I had watched it. 337 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I sent Black and Brave an email and said, hey, uh, 338 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: do you guys have any up openings in your upcoming classes? 339 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: I was trained by and I tried to like pull 340 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: this off so maybe they'd give me a little bit 341 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: more leverage. Oly, Okay, I was trained by Landstorm Brian 342 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Kendrick to make them more open to receiving me. 343 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, definitely. 344 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: And so I sent that email on like Monday night, 345 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: and like, I'm gonna say April twenty first, just to 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: give you an idea to see how crazy this is. 347 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: April twenty second, eight o'clock in the morning, I got 348 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: an email from Black and Brave. That shit woke me 349 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: up so fucking fast, right, So I read it and 350 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: it says, Okay, we'd love to have you. One of 351 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: our English students dropped out. We have an opening space 352 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: for our next class on like May fourth, but you 353 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: have to pay everything up up front. And I was like, immediately, 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: I knew I was going to do it. There was 355 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: no question. I knew I was going to go. It 356 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: was more how was. 357 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: I going to go? 358 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: Because now it's like I gotta let my girlfriend at 359 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: the time know I needed to let my job know 360 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: that I was leaving. And everything happened within like a week, 361 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: a week and a half. I was here after a 362 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: week about a week and a half after I sent 363 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: that email, I was here. Everything was paid off. I 364 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: was ready to go. And the first day they have 365 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: what's called day zero, which kind of weeds out the 366 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: people who just can't do it because it's tough. It's 367 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: it's extremely tough. The drills they have us do are rough. 368 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: It's just a gauntlet of drills, burpies, assault bikes, wall sits, 369 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: holding dumbbells seventy pounds dumbells and rolling around. Yeah, it's rough. 370 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: And so that was the first time that I had 371 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: met Seth. And what's crazy about that is we were 372 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't there when the class started, and we were 373 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: in the middle of our drills towards the end, and 374 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: he just walks in, like through the side garage door 375 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: that he has. 376 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: You can feel the aura as he walks in the door, probably. 377 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. And it's like I look over and 378 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: it's like, holy shit, that Seth where he was just 379 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: on TV like last night, you know, like this is crazy. 380 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: And he just he doesn't say anything. He just like 381 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: he just kind of like glides. I don't even see 382 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: his legs move. It's just like he's floating, you know, undertaker. Yeah, 383 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: He's just kind of like floating into the front. And 384 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: then everything finishes. He introduces himself like we don't know 385 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: who he is, right and uh, the class finishes up 386 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to talk to him and I could 387 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: just tell like right off the bed, I feel like 388 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: this guy did not like me, you know, And and 389 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: it would progress to like the classes too. So at 390 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: the end of every class we would have a Q 391 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: and A and I kid you not, I still have 392 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: the notebook somewhere I write everything down, and I would 393 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: have about five questions every single class that I had. 394 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him to learn, you know, and 395 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: some of the questions, you know, to me, I thought 396 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: there were good questions. Oh maybe he's gonna give me 397 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: some fucking details that no one else knows, right, And 398 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: then I remember, I just I don't know, it just 399 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: felt like at the time, my my, my perspective has changed. 400 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: But at the time, I don't think he liked me 401 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: because I would ask so many questestions and he'd call 402 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: me the question man and kind of just be dismissive 403 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: or short answers and things, you know, and it's like, damn, 404 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: did I pissed this guy off? As my career over? 405 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: Is he gonna like, you know? 406 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 407 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: And so we finished a class and on the last 408 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: day of class, we're having matches, all right, and so 409 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: it's an eight man tag I think it is, and 410 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're like, all right, it's gonna be Nick Joe, 411 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: Tommy r J versus Maggie, DJ, Jeremy and Seth Rollins 412 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: and we're all like what. 413 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, And. 414 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: So we had a match with him. So we go 415 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: to put the match together and he's like, all right, 416 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with Nick, We're gonna do this, this 417 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: is this, and then you tag this person and we're 418 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: gonna do this, this and this, and then we get 419 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: to the finish and he we're putting together the waterfall 420 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: at the end where everyone pretty much hits their shit 421 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: and leaves. And I have a thing with going over 422 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: the top rope because when I was at Lances, I 423 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: went over the top rope backwards and I landed with 424 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: my shin on the edge of the apron. Oh fuck yeah, 425 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: which I don't know if you know this is the 426 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: hardest part of the ring. 427 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard of a commentator or two maybe mention that, Yeah. 428 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it is the hardest part of 429 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: the ring. And my leg I'm not even kidding. It 430 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: was indented and cut and I'll never forget this. My 431 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: best friend he's like, he wasn't my best friend at 432 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: the time, but at the time he's like, holy shit, Brooklyn, 433 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: I can see your bone, but it was just like 434 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the fat or something on my Yeah, it was disgusting. 435 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: And so I had a thing with going over the 436 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: top rope backwards. And Tommy Dreamer actually in that battle 437 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: Oil changed the rules of the battle Oil for me 438 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: because I couldn't go over the top rope backwards. And 439 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: so in this match we're putting it together. He's like, 440 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: all right, Nick, do your thing. I'm gonna come in again. 441 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with my patented AA and then 442 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: you get up and I'll closeline you over the top rope. 443 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I didn't say no, but as far 444 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: as I know, it's only me and John c know 445 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: taking an AA from Seth Rollins, which is pretty fucking cool. 446 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: That's pretty sweet. 447 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: And so we do it. He gives me a clothes 448 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: line over the top rope and it was fine. It 449 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: was fine. It was all in my head obviously. 450 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, it always is, It always is, that's 451 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: how we go. 452 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: So I got over really easy, and uh, he got 453 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: shit can He got tossed out of the ring on 454 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: top of me, and he's like, good shit. And then 455 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: the match was done. They finished up there, but you know, 456 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: from there to where I am now, it took a 457 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: lot of work and a lot of patients on you know, 458 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: his part with me because I ask a lot of questions. Yeah, 459 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: and especially over the last few months, our relationship has 460 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: gotten a lot better, I think, because before he would 461 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: kind of just talk to me like, get away the 462 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: fucking mark, you know, like that kind of thing. Or 463 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: maybe that's probably just my perception of it. 464 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: Of course that's. 465 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: Probably not what it really was. 466 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: A lot of it, I think, and I know this 467 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: is a when I was a young actor coming up. 468 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: They just want to know and see how how committed 469 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: you really are to it. They don't want to give 470 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: all their energy and answers to all these questions to 471 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: somebody who's not as committed as they are. And he's 472 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: probably been burned a lot and given a lot of 473 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: information to people who just gave up and quit. And 474 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: so when you see that somebody's got what it takes 475 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: to stick it out, then all of a sudden you 476 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: start to open up a bit more because they've they've 477 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: broken on your walls. At least that's been my experience 478 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: in show business, and we're all in show business just 479 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: in different formats of it. 480 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think it is because a couple 481 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: of years ago, or about a year ago, actually one 482 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: of the things because I asked him for an honest 483 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: assessment of where I am and where he thinks I am, 484 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: and he says, dude, you got to get into better shape. 485 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: Like that was the first thing that he said, and 486 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: then he said all these other things, but that was 487 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: the first thing. And it makes sense. You know, for wrestling, 488 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: you want when someone's flipping through the channels, you want 489 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: them to stop and be like, who the fuck is that? 490 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: I totally agree, right, Like Drew mackensire, for example. 491 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: Male or female when I'm switching channels, if the body 492 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: is act, I'm like, yo, how the fuck did they 493 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: do that? Like I get jealous, you know, it makes 494 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: me want to watch and see whether it's a male 495 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: or female. I don't care if it's Drue or Jade, 496 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: like either one of them. I'm like, God, damn, that's 497 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: I wish I had an a pack, Like I'm telling you, man, 498 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: I do. So I'm with you on that. I totally agree. 499 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: And so a few months ago I sent them a 500 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: match that I had and the first thing he said 501 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: to me, it's nice to see you getting even better shape. 502 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, dude. 503 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: And ever since then, it's been more of like a 504 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: big brother talking to a little brother with like the 505 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: way he speaks with me, you know, because before, when 506 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: I would ask for advice, he'd be like, all right, this, 507 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: this and this, and I'd apply it. But now it 508 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: gets to the point where it's like I'll ask him 509 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: a question and he'll give me feedback, and then he'll 510 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: be like, all right, next time, let's work on this. 511 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: We need to work on this. It went from go 512 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: do this, and now it's like, we need to do this. Yeah, man, 513 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: show me this, and next one I want to see this. 514 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: So now that's way more encouraging for me because it's like, 515 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: holy show, Like he actually gives a fuck now, you know. 516 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what you're saying is so relatable from an 517 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: artistic perspective when dealing with like mentors and people like that. 518 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: I've had directors on movies that are exactly the way 519 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: you just described, let's work on this, let's do this together, 520 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: and I've had other ones that are like faster, slower, 521 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: speed that up, and I'm just like, what the fuck Okay, 522 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: I guess I'll do that. And you're obviously, as an artist, 523 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: much more receptive to the other way, right, as opposed 524 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: to just here's directions, do them. Like, I'm much more 525 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: an artist, far less a soldier, so I want to 526 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: know why I need some motivation. And once you get 527 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 2: somebody who starts sharing that kind of stuff, it really 528 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: it's a relationship that I think can last the test 529 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: of time. 530 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's funny you say that, because that's 531 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: how I am. Because when he would like give me 532 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: the directions, I would do it obviously, but now it's 533 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: like more encouraging. It's like, oh yeah, man, we're in 534 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: this together. And I was actually just talking to him 535 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: this morning about a character change and what I'm going 536 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: to be doing with that, and like what he asked 537 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: me what the character was, and I sent him like 538 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: this five minute promo of what the character is. Right, 539 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: she's explain it in fifteen seconds. 540 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: In fifteen seconds, Yeah, I was gonna say. 541 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: For the first time, I was like, holy shit, I 542 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: can do that, Like I know who this character is. 543 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Good dude, that's fucking great. 544 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: And I was like I was watching my little timer 545 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: on my thing I was like, fourteen seconds, Yeah, I 546 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: got it out right. No, But what's funny is the 547 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: first time I did it, it was eleven seconds. Like no, 548 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: I got more to say, so I deleted it and 549 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: I made it fourteen seconds. And then he says, you 550 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: know this, this is going to take full commitment from you. 551 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what I need to 552 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: at this point because he told me, like, what I 553 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: need is to find something that's money. You know, like 554 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: he said, you do your your promos are good, your 555 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: matches are good, this is good. This is overall you're good, 556 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: but this is what's making you know, wwe pass on you? 557 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: And like I sat long and hard and thought about that. 558 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: I was like, what do I need to do to 559 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: stand out? And he told me what not to do. 560 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: So he told me that's valuable. He told me, you know, 561 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: the moves that I were doing was like copy and 562 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: paste wrestling. I got rid of all of them. I 563 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: don't do any of that anymore. And developing the character. 564 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: He's probably going to get back to me, but I'm 565 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: kind of in limbo right now because I sent him 566 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: what I'm doing to commit to the character, and he 567 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: just sent me a thumbs up, and I'm like, oh shit, like, 568 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing now, Did I choose 569 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: the wrong character? Like, what's going on? 570 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 2: Nah? Fuck? No, dude, Commitment. Let me interrupt you, man, 571 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: because this shit's important for everyone to hear. You know, 572 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Commitment is key to everything. And when you're thinking about 573 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: a character and something like that, you need to be 574 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: as vulnerable as humanly possible, which is as vulnerable as 575 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: you are at this moment in your life. And that's 576 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: how you accept criticism, and that's how you accept compliments. Right. 577 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: But I would give it as an example when I 578 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: worked at WWE and did like an acting class there, 579 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: I would literally show people that scene from Liar, Liar 580 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: when Jim Carrey is trying to say the pen is 581 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: blue and or the pen is red and he can't 582 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: do it because he can't tell a lie. And the 583 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: level of commitment that was necessary to make that scene 584 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: funny instead of awkward and shitty and something that gets 585 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: cut on the floor is the likes of which I've 586 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: never seen before. And that's a comedy scene, right Like, 587 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: I'll put that up against anybody's dramatic scene. I'll put 588 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: that up against Anthony Hopkins's best dramatic role and say, 589 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: the level of commitment is identical. His is just more 590 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: achievable because he's more mainstream and he gives us more 591 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 2: access to his personality as an artist, so we can 592 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: understand that more. So. I would say, watch Jim Carrey 593 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: when dealing with commitment, and just watch how far he's 594 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: willing to go. Like he cries in Liar Liar. We 595 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: forget that he literally breaks down and cries talking to 596 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 2: his son, but we all remember the funny bits and 597 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: all the funny stuff like it's it's next level. So 598 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: anything you can do to be vulnerable and open and 599 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 2: honest with yourself and then translate that honesty through the character, 600 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: even if it's a fake character. That's what every actor 601 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: has done their entire career and their whole life, and 602 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: you can do it too. So take a thumbs up 603 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: as you're on the right path. You just need to 604 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: fucking commit all the way. 605 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: I love that and I appreciate that. 606 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, dude, I'm like a psychiatrist for wrestlers, bro, 607 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: what you should be? 608 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: You know how wrestling is. It's like we need that shit. 609 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: We're all fucking crazy to do. 610 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: Every artist is man. Every actor I've met is nuts 611 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: and insecure, and they think every job is going to 612 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: be their last job and they're never going to work again, 613 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: and their work sucks, and I'm like, dude, you're great. 614 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: I think you're better than me. Like, what are we 615 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: talking about here? So I feel you, man, Nick, Tell 616 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: the people where they can find you. Are you on 617 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: social media? 618 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: I am so On Instagram it's nasty Nick Nolan, and 619 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: IC not an ic K nasty Nick Nolan, And on 620 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: x it's the same thing, but I'm not really on that. 621 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I need to get back on that. And on TikTok, 622 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: which I'm just starting to fuck around with, it's nasty 623 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Nick Nolan. Also, I don't Yeah, I think those are red. 624 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm not really I hate social media. 625 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm not good at it. I'm almost fifty, so I'm 626 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: just bad at it. My daughter helps me out and 627 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: lets me know when something's ready to post or not. 628 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm always like, is this okay? Like I don't know 629 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: what I'm doing? Can you show me how to do this? Dude? 630 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: We have to have you back on the show. I 631 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: want to talk to you after you get this character established. 632 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Bring him back and you can kind of demonstrate and 633 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: not demonstrate, but tell us what he's all about. And 634 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: I'm interested to see where your journey goes from here. Man. 635 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: I thank you so much for coming on the show. Nick, 636 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: appreciate you, dude. 637 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. And Alex, thank you. Alex is the man 638 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Chunk love Angledora. He is the man dude. 639 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: He is the man bro ex marine too. He's a 640 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: United States veteran. We love Alex. He's awesome. He's the 641 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: best producer in the game, and he loves wrestling just 642 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: as much as we do, and maybe even more. The 643 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: guy knows more about wrestling than I do. He'll send 644 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: texts where I'm just like, what matches this? He's finding 645 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: matches all over the world and texting me at like 646 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: four am when I'm trying to sleep. Thank you, No thanks, Nick, 647 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: appreciate your brother, Thank you, Nick, thanks for coming you guys. 648 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: Tune in every week. Can't wait to do more of these, 649 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: can't wait to bring Nick Nolan back. Tune in on 650 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: Wednesdays and Thursdays on behalf of Everybody. I'm Freddy Princes Junior, 651 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: same Peete