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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 2: Not really, I'm neither. I'm neither Nathan Norbo. However, good

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Speaker 2: afternoon to you're you're getting me today. You're getting the

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Speaker 2: substitute teacher today. Hi, It's Andrew Siciliano. If you're doing well,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here for a Tuesday edition A two

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Speaker 2: days before opening day addition A the Calves get the

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Speaker 2: Magic Tonight addition A Thailand Wallace is officially in the house.

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Speaker 2: Spoke to him earlier today edition of CBD. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: being here, friends, it says on my sheet here put

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Speaker 2: together by the great Jason Gibbs. Gibbe is here today.

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Speaker 2: Gabe is here today. Is Jordan here today? As well

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Speaker 2: as the whole crew here today. The entire crew, I'm told,

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Speaker 2: is here today. I am not in the studio of

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Speaker 2: the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. I am at home today,

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Speaker 2: working from home. Is Nathan and boe very often do.

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Speaker 2: I am taking the same liberties as they often take,

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Speaker 2: except on this sheet here handed me and printed at

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Speaker 2: home my printer, worked today by Gibbe. It says Andrew

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Speaker 2: Ciciliano via com Rex from his home in Tuscany. Like,

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Speaker 2: what are you talking about, dude, Tuscany?

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Speaker 3: It's the never ending thing.

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Speaker 2: I would gladly.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: The idea who gets hurt the idea that you think

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Speaker 2: that because my name ends in a vowl. I'm in

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Speaker 2: Tuscany in the off season.

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Speaker 3: No, but we did get a new glimpse into your

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Speaker 3: into your palatial like studio, and I've got to tell

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Speaker 3: you it's pretty darn impressive.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at at wood paneled walls from home depot.

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Speaker 3: That's is that a ship lap? Is that what they

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Speaker 3: call that?

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Speaker 2: What is that called a ship lap? What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I think the wall, I think the paneling is called

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Speaker 2: It's prefabed wood paneling from home Depot, thrown on the

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Speaker 2: wall with a metal shelf in front of it. It's

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Speaker 2: not that fancy. I'm happy to be here though.

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Speaker 3: I like the room. I like the setup. Normally I

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Speaker 3: only see a part of.

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Speaker 2: It to see that the entire thing. We're on zoo.

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Speaker 2: We're not impressionally live with the Browns YouTube page here today.

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Speaker 2: We are live, but we're not live with me on camera.

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Speaker 2: If you could see that, you would see me with

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Speaker 2: my feet up on a desk and have shoes on.

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Speaker 2: So it's not exactly professional. I can't say that.

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Speaker 3: We eventually, we will get to the point where this

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Speaker 3: fall when we move into our new studios where we

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Speaker 3: can we can have you on live and you know,

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Speaker 3: other people, yeah, on camera live.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if we were to do that, however, that would

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Speaker 2: require me to be presentable on camera.

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Speaker 3: I think you look just fine. I think you look

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Speaker 3: swell well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, wearing a Browns T shirt and shorts and

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Speaker 2: my feet are up on the desk.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you got shorts on. Maybe we'll get to that again.

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Speaker 2: You're allowed to wear shorts. You're walking around inside.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, we're not not in this place.

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Speaker 2: You're in a climate controlled building.

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Speaker 3: We are not allowed to wear shorts during training camp.

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Speaker 3: You are, okay, Yeah, during training camp.

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Speaker 2: We're all wearing shorts in the building during training camp.

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Speaker 3: Once labor Day rolls around, game on.

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Speaker 2: you the typis Powell will be here. Buckeye legend that

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Speaker 2: is Tybas Powell is tomorrow's Ohio State Pro Day. With

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Speaker 2: Day preview coming up in a matter of minutes. The

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Speaker 2: hot topics of the day presented by University Hospitals, the

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Speaker 2: official healthcare partner of Your Cleveland Browns. This is by

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Speaker 2: Gibbe's Count, or maybe it's Game's Count. Day seventy nine

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Speaker 2: of the one hundred and twenty Day Plan. The one

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Speaker 2: day that Kevin Stefanski was let go as head coach

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Speaker 2: of Your Cleveland Brown So this is day seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: It's also now officially inside of one month until night

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Speaker 2: number one of the NFL Draft on the night of

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Speaker 2: April twenty third. Everyone's going to be down the road

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. The Browns have picked six and twenty four

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Speaker 2: on night number one. You know that already. Tomorrow according

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Speaker 2: to Gibbs math, we're going to be sixty six two

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Speaker 2: thirds of the way, sixty six percent of the way

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Speaker 2: through that one hundred and twenty day plan. The Browns

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Speaker 2: made official a couple of signings today. First off, Thailand

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Speaker 2: Wallace is officially in the building, and yesterday they resigned

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Speaker 2: Blake Whiteheart. They have also re signed defensive lineman defensive

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Speaker 2: when needed as well. Sam Kamara, i mentioned earlier, was

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Speaker 2: able to speak to tailand Wallace earlier today, and that

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Speaker 2: is going to run on a soon to be released

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Speaker 2: edition once it is put together. BPA the best podcast

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Speaker 2: available with yours truly and with Jason Gibbs. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people look at Tayland Wallace and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: he's a special teams guy special teams weren't good last year.

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Speaker 2: He's a return man. He really isn't a return man.

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Speaker 2: He did have a punt return for a touchdown against

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Speaker 2: the Rams late in the twenty twenty three season, however,

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Speaker 2: that was his first game in his NFL career and

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Speaker 2: that was year three. He's now going to be heading

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Speaker 2: into year six in which he had actually returned to

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Speaker 2: punt believe it or not. Now, in that game, he

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. But Tyland Wallace as a core special teams

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Speaker 2: guy is signing more on your coverage team, more in

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Speaker 2: Can he work in offensively? Sure, he could play the Z,

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Speaker 2: he could play the slot. He caught a touchdown against

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Speaker 2: the Browns last year in Week number two, But that's

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Speaker 2: not why you're signing him primarily. That's not his core role.

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Speaker 2: Can he be your fifth and sixth wide receiver on

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Speaker 2: you because a lot can change between now and Night

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Speaker 2: number one. Obviously it's still a month away. There are

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Speaker 2: at twenty four is huge. It's massive. There is a

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Speaker 2: You could have a dozen wide receivers taken in the

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Speaker 2: all gonna go in rounds one and two. Now at six,

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Speaker 2: it's probably only Carnel Tate. I don't see Mkai Lemon

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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, guys that aren't six foot tall at wide

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Speaker 2: He's had some other private workouts. Just as we pull

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Speaker 2: these pre draft visit works. These pre draft visits work.

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Speaker 2: thirty visits. Okay, as they're known, they cannot work out

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Speaker 2: there's a private workout, and today there's one reported here,

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Speaker 2: the Saints are working out Lemon, the USC receiver. As

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Speaker 2: workouts never ever happen on campus. Mackay Lemon isn't going

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Speaker 2: to be the pick at six. I'd be stunned. Could

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Speaker 2: it be Jordan Tyson? Yeah? Sure, wouldn't that be nice?

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Speaker 2: Could it be Denzel Bustin? I think at twenty four,

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Speaker 2: it is an offensive lineman at six, and that Zagura

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Speaker 3: Anytimes the Gura can lose his mind and I can

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Speaker 3: watch it in person, it's great.

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Speaker 2: Well, the goal is not just for the theater. The

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Speaker 2: goal is to get the best football player.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I believe I told you that you could draft Monroe Freeling,

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Speaker 2: who's the Georgia offensive lineman, the left tackle, with really

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Speaker 2: only one year of starting experience. If I told you

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Speaker 2: you live in with whomever you put at left tackle,

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Speaker 2: year four, you would get six to seven years of

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Speaker 2: the first two months of the season If no. If

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Speaker 2: or seven months, of course you would. Of course you would.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're mailing in those first two months

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't you do it? Of course you would do it.

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Speaker 2: I know we want an immediate return, but sometimes long

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Speaker 2: a way to get by. That doesn't mean you're mailing

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're only solely focused on twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Oh he's literally he demand average seventeen point two yards

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Speaker 2: think the fact it go back a couple of years

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00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: Marv didn't run. Obviously, Marv did nothing of the combine

434
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: kind of said like, I don't need the combine turned

435
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: on my tape. You know who I am. There are

436
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: a lot of factors that play in Arizona. Why his

437
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: career hasn't taken off a lot of it as quarterback play, Well,

438
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: it just it hasn't clicked and they're going to have

439
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: a new quarterback there. Do you think anyone looks at

440
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: around the league Marv's lack of productivity and say he

441
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: didn't run, we're concerned by the four or five three

442
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 2: throwout JSN for a second, and that that would give

443
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: us pause. I have not heard that, but I'm curious

444
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: if you.

445
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: Have no, because the difference between Carnell and Marv is

446
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: Carnell is.

447
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 5: Actually going dude drill and stuff like.

448
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: Marv did nothing, not at all, So you you just

449
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: literally went off his tape. I'm pretty sure Carnell is

450
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: catching tomorrow, so you actually will see him live running

451
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 4: routes and doing all those things. I just think it's

452
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 4: two different totally different stories.

453
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 5: You know.

454
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 4: You know, Marv is one of those guys that for

455
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: whatever reason, it hasn't clicked yet, but when it does,

456
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: because I don't think it's I'm not saying the guy

457
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: it's over with, Like when it does, I think you

458
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: have something special there. I think that everybody can admit,

459
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, once he figures it out, you know there

460
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: is something special there and you know you can give

461
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: the quarterback situation is what it is. Injuries has played

462
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: a part in last year as well, so this year

463
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: he has to He pretty much has to get it done,

464
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 4: I believe, and I think that he will. Hopefully they

465
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: get a quarterback in there, and hopefully they you know,

466
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 4: Mike Laflirt the new head coach, and come up with

467
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: a good play.

468
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: Call him.

469
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 4: And he's been under McVay and he's been under Kyle Shanahan,

470
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 4: So you know, I think that they're gonna scheme up

471
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: some ways to get things done with Marv this year.

472
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: So I don't think that his Mars situation factors into

473
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: what Carnell has going on. I think if anybody you

474
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: know is similar to Carnell, it would be the mecca.

475
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: You know, because of people look at Carnell as he's

476
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: never been a one, well a Mecca's never been a

477
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: one in Ohio state either, but yet he had he

478
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: started off his rookie campaign on fire. You know, he looked,

479
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: he looked really good out there, and I think that

480
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: that's kind of where you have to compare Carnell to

481
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: you know, can he handle being a number one somewhere?

482
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 4: And I believe he can. You know, Carnell is one

483
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: of those guys that he's in a process. He stepped

484
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 4: on campus, man, like that's all the people talked about.

485
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: It's like this guy is pro ready, Like the attitude

486
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 4: he has, the way he carries himself. Dude handles himself

487
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 4: like a pro. So to me, I have no doubt

488
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: that he will be successful in the NFL.

489
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: Talking to Typus foul Down to Columbus a day ahead

490
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: of Buckeye Pro Day coming up tomorrow, we are twenty

491
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: five days away from the spring game, believe it or not,

492
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: on April eighteenth, that is the Saturday before the draft.

493
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: And if you're scoring at home one hundred and six

494
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: days before the opener on September fifth against Ball State,

495
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: where would you play rvel Reese tyas.

496
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: If r vel Reese is best suited in the three four,

497
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: he's in that TJ. Watt Row they had the fourth

498
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: outside linebacker guy that's an edge rusher. I don't think

499
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: he's traditionally a four to three guy.

500
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 5: I don't. I wouldn't put him in that situation.

501
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 4: I don't think that. You know, his best thing is

502
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: past coverage. I think he could do it, but I

503
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: think you got to You will want to hide that

504
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: a little bit. You want to make him be like

505
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: a pop out guy. I think he can do that

506
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: because he's very athletic, and people will, you know, misjudge

507
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 4: how athletic.

508
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 6: He can be.

509
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: And he could get in those zones.

510
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't want to put him in

511
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: that conflict of the run pass where he has to

512
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 4: be the guy that gets back. I think that that's

513
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: not best suited for him. I think the best thing

514
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: about him is his athleticism, being able to get around

515
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: some of them tackles and stuff like that, and his physicality.

516
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 5: So I will put him at a three four outside linebacker.

517
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to see him. I don't

518
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: like I don't go get the quarterback. I think that

519
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: is by far his best. That is the way to

520
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: unlock him by far? Are you? I'm just concerned that

521
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: he goes somewhere and they put him. They they ask

522
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: him to do things that don't suit him, like his

523
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: his potential is legitimately through the roof. He's the He's

524
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: the one guy. Look, Sonny style is gonna be okay

525
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: wherever he goes. Tate's gonna be okay wherever he goes.

526
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs, You're definitely gonna be okay wherever he goes.

527
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Rvel is the one guy where I'm like, please go

528
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: to a coach that knows how to unlock everything that

529
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: is there.

530
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, you can see it just from

531
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: the two the couple of years that he was there

532
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: at Allstate. Man, I know he didn't start two years ago.

533
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: You know, Cody Simon was one of the guys him

534
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: and so he was the two linebackers. But you see,

535
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, you give Matt Patricia and they tried to

536
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: figure out a lot.

537
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: You know. The thing about our veil is when he.

538
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: First got here, didn't they couldn't tell if he was

539
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: gonna be a pass rusher or if he was gonna

540
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: be a linebacker.

541
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 5: So he here, he was on the defensive.

542
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: Line some days doing drills, and then he was doing

543
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: linebacker drill. So he was a tweeter. And it took

544
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: a good coach like Matt Patricia to come in here

545
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: and say, don't worry, I can figure it out.

546
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: I can put you in.

547
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: A certain situation where we utilize you both ways. And

548
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: I just think that, that, to me, was what defined

549
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: his career. Now you have to have a coach that

550
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: understands like, Okay, he can do he can drop back

551
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: and being coverage. He could, but I think that's diminished him.

552
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: What will make an offense scared of him, Well, it's

553
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: his ability to get.

554
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 5: To the quarterback and then on some of those things.

555
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: If he's doing it and he's having such a success,

556
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: now popp him out. Let him go ahead and do

557
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: a stunt where he goes down, then pop out the

558
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: quarterback and throw it right to him through a right

559
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: pool and he can make plays that way. I think

560
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: that that would be the perfect thing for him.

561
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 5: I know that. I think I've seen him watch with

562
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: the Jets and the Cardinals.

563
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: I think it's like the two cup two teams kind

564
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: of peetering between him. So if he goes to the Jets,

565
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: you know Aaron Glenn is a good defensive mind. I

566
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: know that they have a couple of stand up guys,

567
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: so he will probably play one of those positions.

568
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: He could be fine there for sure.

569
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Yes, the Jets of two, the Cardinals are at three.

570
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that he gets to four. If he

571
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: does get to Fort's. Tennessee's sitting there at Fort's, the

572
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: Giants at five. It's it's fascinating here at least a

573
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: month out to ask what does free agency do with

574
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: these teams priorities sitting there, especially ahead of the Browns

575
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: and those top five picks. Because you look at look

576
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: the Giants sign Edmunds. Does that mean they're out of

577
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: the Sunny Styles business. I don't think so, But there's

578
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: a little redundancy there if you go dreve Sonny Styles

579
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: and you just paid Edmunds. Now, these are free agency

580
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: contracts normally really they're three year deals, but really they're

581
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: two year deals. There are ways around it. Just because

582
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: for example, the team went out like the Saints of

583
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and they paid a big they paid big

584
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: cash for a veteran running back, doesn't mean they don't

585
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: want Jeremiah Love. I could see Sonny Styles going at five. Look, honestly,

586
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: when I walked out of the combine, when I walked

587
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: out of the combine, Tys, I thought Sonny Styles was

588
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead of RVL Reese. I'm not so sure

589
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: right now.

590
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those It's one of those positions

591
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: where it's a linebacker. You know, the linebacker in some

592
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: days is kind of getting diminished a little bit. It's

593
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: not one of those high profile spots like it used

594
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: to be, but you definitely need it, you know, and

595
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: you understand when you got a generational guy there, you

596
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: have to.

597
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 5: Take that guy. So I believe he go.

598
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: I see him more probably to the Commanders. I think

599
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: that's a good spot for him. I think in five. Yeah,

600
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: at five, I believe that death Caleb Downs. I just

601
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: to me, it just makes so much sense. When you

602
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: look at their defensive line, it is nasty. They got

603
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: four downs on the defensive line that could absolutely get there,

604
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: but they don't. Why because the secondary doesn't hold company.

605
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: It was like back when we drafted Denzel war and

606
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: everybody wanted the Browns to take Bradley Chubb and they said, no,

607
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna take Denzel because it's gonna buy Miles time

608
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: to get there. That's exactly what the Giants is in

609
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: the same boat right now. They need to get a

610
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: guy in that secondary that can make that quarterback hold

611
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: the ball. Caleb Downs is perfect with that because Caleb

612
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: Downs understands how to make the pre snap red money

613
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: for the quarterback.

614
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: It was so many games that.

615
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: Caleb it was so many games that Caleb Downs lined

616
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: up in a certain spot just to let the quarterback

617
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: know you can't throw it right here because I'm standing

618
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: right here with all the intentions to move as soon.

619
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: As the ball is found. So to me, he helped

620
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: out so many guys.

621
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: And played that mind game with the quarterback or given wrong.

622
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: I know in the NFL is different.

623
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: But still to be able to put that thought in

624
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: the quarterback's head that that might not be there. That

625
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: just buys that pass for us just an extra second

626
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: to get there to make him.

627
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: Think about it.

628
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: So I think that that's a good spot for Caleb

629
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: Number to the Giants.

630
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Talking to Tyvis Powell real quick, last thing, what is

631
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: the one thing you're looking forward to seeing tomorrow? The

632
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 2: one thing that you want to see tomorrow at pro Dain.

633
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: I might be interested to see what Caleb Downs runs

634
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: in the forty. Not that it really matters, but I

635
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: would love to see where he clocks himself at I

636
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: think that that's the thing that's very important and to me,

637
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: I want to see.

638
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 5: I want to see these guys just do because he.

639
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: Didn't really see like the Cardinal tape, you didn't see

640
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: Caleb Downs. You know, they didn't do anything like Arville.

641
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: I believe in Sonny ain't Kate McDonald. I think those

642
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: three guys actually did the drills at the come by.

643
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: The other guys didn't. And I really want to see

644
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 5: what they look like. You know.

645
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: I think I've seen clips and I've obviously watched practice

646
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: and stuff, so I know that they're good. But to

647
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: see it with the lights on, with all the money

648
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: on the line, I want to see what they're able

649
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: to do it now and how they handle that pressure.

650
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: So I'm actually looking forward to that.

651
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Speaker 2: It was Miami Pro Day on Monday, Lsu as well.

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Speaker 2: It is not for Dame Pro Day today on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Buck Guy Pro Day coming up on Wednesday. You're gonna be.

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Speaker 5: There, right, I am going to make an appearance.

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Speaker 2: All right, make an appearance, my friend. We appreciate you

656
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Speaker 2: making appearance on this as well, and uh look forward

657
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Speaker 2: to seeing you soon, my friend. You go in opening

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Speaker 2: day next week?

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Speaker 5: No, no, I am not. Will you be there.

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Speaker 2: I will be there, but I'll miss you. I figured

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Speaker 2: you would be there, so we'll catch up another time.

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Speaker 2: Either way, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: I'll see you.

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Speaker 4: So give me needs to let me come do host

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns Daily one time, and I hopefully I

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Speaker 4: can see you there.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at give you right now. He had his

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Speaker 2: hands out like sure, sure, hey man, it's the off season, dude,

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Speaker 2: ask you'd be surprised. What you what you get a

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Speaker 2: yes to? You got a times pal everybody? All right?

671
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Speaker 2: Coming up next. I was at the Flag football thing

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Speaker 2: on Saturday in Los Angeles, the thing those on Fox

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Speaker 2: and you know Tom Brady playing football again. The flag

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Speaker 2: guys kicked the NFL guy's tails. Coming up, What I

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Speaker 2: saw there and which Browns would be good in the

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Speaker 2: Olympics in twenty twenty eight in LA Because the answer

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Speaker 2: maybe a year ago is not the answer now. That

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684
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Speaker 2: They're right at CBD. It's Andrew Hi. Everybody in for

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Speaker 2: both Bow and Nathan. They they get the week off evidently,

686
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Speaker 2: So you get me today and you get me tomorrow.

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00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: Coming up in about twenty five minutes, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Browns linebacker Quincy Williams as that deal became official last week.

689
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: The Thailand Wallace Steele became official. Today, Sam Kamara became official,

690
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: as did Blake Whiteheart. He too is back, So Kamara

691
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Speaker 2: and white Heart Heart the ones coming back resigning. So

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Speaker 2: I was in southern California over the weekend and I

693
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Speaker 2: went to the Fanatics Flag Football Classic. It was on Fox.

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Speaker 2: It was on at four o'clock on Saturday. Fun fact,

695
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Speaker 2: this is the game that was supposed to be in riod.

696
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be in Saudi Arabia with everyone

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Speaker 2: flying over here for this Flag Football International exhibition with

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Speaker 2: a bunch of NFL guys. Obviously, the war started and

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Speaker 2: it was relocated to Los Angeles typically, and I truly

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Speaker 2: do mean this to everyone who got the game moved

701
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Speaker 2: and got it on television and got all the logistics

702
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Speaker 2: done in only three weeks. They had three weeks to

703
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Speaker 2: move a major television event. They could have gone to Miami,

704
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: thought about Miami. Miami wasn't gonna work. They went to

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. That is hard to do, to get all

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Speaker 2: the logistics done to get everyone in. There were plenty

707
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Speaker 2: of other shoulder events along with it, and they got

708
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: this game pulled off. It got it on television and

709
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: it was fun. A lot of people say, oh, there

710
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: weren't a lot of fans in the crowd, big deal.

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00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: It was no joke hotter in LA on Friday than

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Speaker 2: it was in Saudi Arabia by twelve degrees. They had

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Speaker 2: one week of advertising. They got more than enough fans there,

714
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: and they got NFL players there. Burrow played, obviously, Brady played.

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Speaker 2: You had Jalen Hurts and Jaden Daniels and Saquon Barkley

716
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: and DeVante Adams and Jalen Ramsey and uh who else?

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00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: You had Luke Keiklee, and you had Kyle Hugh's chin,

718
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Speaker 2: and you had DeVante Smith. You had a long, long,

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Speaker 2: long list of guys. And what happened. The NFL guys

720
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: got their butts kicked up and down the field bad.

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Speaker 2: The scores were thirty nine to fourteen, forty three sixteen,

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Speaker 2: and twenty four fourteen. Collectively. The NFL players were outscored

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Speaker 2: by I call them the pro flag guys, but in essence,

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Speaker 2: just Team USA, the team that right now, if we

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Speaker 2: had to send them to the Olympics, would be the

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Speaker 2: Olympic team. They got outscored one oh six to forty two,

727
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Speaker 2: one o six to forty two. And you remember who's due?

728
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: Said the guy that plays quarterback said a year ago, Hey,

729
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Speaker 2: I'm better than Patrick Mahomes, and everyone laughed at him,

730
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: and he was very careful to say, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that I can go play an NFL game better than

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. I'm saying that when it comes to flag,

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Speaker 2: I'm better at flag than Patrick Mahomes or any other

734
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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback would be at flag. And you know what,

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Speaker 2: He's right, and we all owe him an apology because

736
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Speaker 2: the NFL players went in there and they they didn't

737
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: have delusions of grandeur, but I think we as fans

738
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: did that they would just kick the flag guy's tails.

739
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Speaker 2: I think they knew, and I went to the practice

740
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Speaker 2: on Friday and went to the press conference on Friday.

741
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Speaker 2: I think they knew it was going to be different,

742
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: but they did not expect to lose as badly as

743
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Speaker 2: they did. They thought they might win. Maybe it's close.

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Speaker 2: At a minimum, it's fun. They're not going to get

745
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: their butts kicked. They got their butts kicked. They were humbled,

746
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: and they said on Friday, look for me to tackle somebody,

747
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: whether it's Luke Keiklee or Kyle Uschek or whomever you

748
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: have Jalen Ramsey out there. I run through you. I

749
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Speaker 2: played football my whole life. I go through you. I'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to pull your flag. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: tackle you in a phone booth where you're just doing

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Speaker 2: dance moves. You're playing in the matrix. I try to

753
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Speaker 2: tackle you, I can't tackle you. The rules are so different. Saquan,

754
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Speaker 2: for example, can't jump over a dude. That's illegal. He

755
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Speaker 2: tried to jump through two guys who are trying to

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Speaker 2: pull his flag on either side, he got flagged and

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Speaker 2: a big gain was taken back. I'm telling you right now,

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Speaker 2: if we send any NFL players, and the owners voted

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Speaker 2: thirty two to nothing last year that you can send.

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Speaker 2: You have to allow one NFL player from each team

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Speaker 2: if they want to go. I'm telling you right now,

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00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: we just need a handful of NFL players for the publicity.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to send all pros. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: they will lose. If we send a team full of

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Speaker 2: all pros, they are going to lose. A six foot

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, a six foot two dB, not that there

767
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: are that many, doesn't help. You need little dudes, you

768
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: need small guys. You need shifty guys. The flag guys,

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Speaker 2: like the Pro Flag team, the Team USA. They're running

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Speaker 2: guys out there that are five seven, one point fifty

771
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, and they're running circles around the NFL guys.

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Speaker 2: And that's the team that wins in international competition. So

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Speaker 2: a year ago, two years ago, when we talked about this,

774
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: we said, oh yeah, and Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett playing flag,

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? No way, no way, don't send them.

776
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: I don't want them there. I don't want anyone getting hurt.

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00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: You want little dudes. And I'm not saying I'm happy

778
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Speaker 2: if Gage Larvada and gets hurt. Don't misunderstand what I'm

779
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: about to say. But he'd be a better flag player

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00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: than Miles Garrett. Dylan Samson is a better flag player

781
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: than Miles Garrett. You need little guys. Isaiah Bond will

782
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: be a better flag player than Miles Garrett. You need shiftiness,

783
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: you need short area quickness. You need guys that can

784
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: change direction. You need guys that can cut on a dime.

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00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett might be the best football player alive, he

786
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't be any good at flag. He just wouldn't. Now,

787
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: maybe those worlds will come back, those words will come

788
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Speaker 2: back and bite me in the tail. But Gibby, let's

789
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: do this. If you had to rank flag players from

790
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Speaker 2: the Browns, what would your list be?

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Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I thought of was defense. I

792
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: wasn't thinking small and quick until.

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Speaker 2: You think small and quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I also, is there a spot for Sweassinger

795
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Speaker 3: because he's smart enough? And yes, yes, but no, are

796
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Speaker 3: we sure that can't figure it out if they spend

797
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Speaker 3: time like if they do.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question it's a great question, and I

799
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: think they can and I think they would. I'm not

800
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Speaker 2: saying that like we're asking pro football players to play tennis,

801
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: but it is absolutely a different sport. I had this

802
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: conversation with Kyle Huescheck on Friday after practice. He walked

803
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: off the field and I go, what do you think

804
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: He goes, Dude, it's not it's not football. It's a

805
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: different sport. And he didn't say that in a derogatory

806
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: like I'm slamming this sense. He was having fun. But

807
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: it's more like lacrosse or hockey than it is football.

808
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: The it's played with a smaller football, it's played with

809
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: a similar ball. But look at it. Look at the

810
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: game on Saturday. You have a quarterback who's looking downfield,

811
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Speaker 2: looking downfield, here comes rush. What does he do? He

812
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: throws a lateral to the other side of the field

813
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: to another quarterback, and then that guy potentially throws the

814
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: ball down the field or that guy runs. It's like

815
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: if you're watching hockey or lacrosse where you have an

816
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: attacker at the top of the box right or over

817
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: the blue line, looking looking looking, here comes the defense.

818
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass it off. I'm gonna lateral it to

819
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: my right. I'm gonna push the backwards or push the

820
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: ball backwards, and then somebody else takes a run of

821
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Speaker 2: the defense. That's what flag football is. Tom Brady's standing

822
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 2: back there and marching up and down the field ain't

823
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: gonna work. Now, he did come out in that second game.

824
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Team USA got it's butt kicked in the first game,

825
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: and then you, I'm sorry, the NFL guys did. And

826
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: then you have a second NFL team that comes out

827
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Speaker 2: for the second game, and that was led by Brady.

828
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: And Brady marched his team down the field on the

829
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: opening drive and he throws a touchdown to grondk who

830
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: actually pulled a hammy on that play and was never

831
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Speaker 2: since again. Of course he did. He was the only

832
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: guy that got hurt. But at that point, you go, ah,

833
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: all right, Brady's got a focus, like like these guys,

834
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: these guys are going I'm not going to screw up

835
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: for Brady. We're actually going to be the discipline focus

836
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: team that's going to win. And then they gave up

837
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: like a thirty nothing run and they got their butts

838
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: kicked too. It didn't matter. It didn't matter.

839
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Speaker 3: It's crazy because you look at it and again like you,

840
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: like you said, like they're football players, but they're amazing

841
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: athletes as well, Like they can figure it. People in

842
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: the NFL are world class athletes.

843
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: They can figure it out. They can make themselves a

844
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: great team. Do they want to take the effort and

845
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: risk the injury to make themselves a great team? Because

846
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: that's the other thing. If you're a Bengals fan and

847
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: you're watching Joe Burrow run around to get his pants

848
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: pulled down quite literally diving into the end zone and

849
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow on a soccer field making these jump cuts

850
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: to try to avoid his flag getting I don't want that.

851
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: You think Mike Brown like watching that? Heck no, no

852
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: Bengals fan like watching that. Jayden Daniels trying to do

853
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: the same thing, Jalen Hurts, trying to do the same thing.

854
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: For all.

855
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: Like, from what we could tell, everybody got out of

856
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: their healthy other than the retired TV analyst Rob Gronkowski.

857
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: So hey, they made it, they survived. Nobody got hurt.

858
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: But a week before training camp, whether it's a neat,

859
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: whether it's a hammy or something far more severe, no way,

860
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: I guarantee you and I heard of one talking to

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Speaker 2: people on the sideline, one very big name NFL player

862
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Speaker 2: who was going to be in that event, whose team

863
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: basically said, we're not gonna say no, but we'd prefer

864
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: if you didn't.

865
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: Well, if they think about it. One of the Olympics

866
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: early August.

867
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no. The schedules all worked out. The opening

868
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: star money for the Olympics is going to be July fourteen,

869
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. They're only going to be six teams

870
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: in the flag tournament. Only six. That's it. The entire calendar.

871
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: The schedule has already worked out. The gold medal game

872
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: is a week after the opening ceremony and flag will

873
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: be done by the twenty first. So if you're an

874
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: Olympian and you're on that team, you have no excuse

875
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: to show up for training camp late. You might miss

876
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: like the rookie year veteran report date, but you're only

877
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: going to be a day or two late the Olympics.

878
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 2: The Olympic flag competition will be done during the first

879
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: week of the Games, and you will be ready for

880
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: training camp.

881
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: So I just I keep going back to can they

882
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: do this? And you you asked me on our current

883
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: football team, you brought up some good options.

884
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

885
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Can I also interest you in one of our favorites

886
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: in this radio a Malachai Corley.

887
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, although he's more of a power guy than

888
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: a shifty guy. But power does not help you at all.

889
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: Physicality does not help you.

890
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: Can Judy play? Can Judy play in that?

891
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: I think, actually Jerry Judy be a very good player. Seriously,

892
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: Judy is no say we went about Jerry last year.

893
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Obviously we know the season did not go the way

894
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: that anybody wanted to, but he is known for his

895
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: footwork off the line, his ability to shake guys off

896
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: the line. I mean there are times where a dB

897
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: lunges and they whiff on Jerry Judy coming off the line. Absolutely,

898
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: he'd be good.

899
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: I mean you you brought up Dylan Samson, totally agree. Gauge, Yes,

900
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: O Hunt returns. That's who's going to be good at flag. Yeah.

901
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: So that's interesting if you're if you are the NFL

902
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: and you want to put a team out there to

903
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: try to qualify, because I'm assuming there's only gonna be

904
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: one team USA. Yeah, maybe not, but I would think

905
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: there's probably.

906
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Gonna be one team.

907
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: It's so Yeah, so you're gonna have some kind of

908
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: qualifying events. So maybe the NFL puts together a team.

909
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: I think you have to go about it the way

910
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: that when USA basketball fell on hard times, they went

911
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: and got coach k They put together a staff, and

912
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: they said, we're gonna put together guys that are gonna

913
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 3: fit what we're looking to do. We are not looking

914
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: for the best players necessarily in the NBA. We're looking

915
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: for the guys that fit the right system. I just

916
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: don't know how well that plays in the NFL.

917
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: So you're not gonna have thirty two NFL guys. Their

918
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: teams are much smaller. You're only going to have a

919
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: handful of NFL players because I think it has proven

920
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 2: over the weekend you need legitimate, quote unquote pro flat guys.

921
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: You have to to win. You have to So I

922
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: think you're only gonna see three to five depends on

923
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: how big the roster is. Depends if you have a

924
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: second team, not a second team that competes, but like

925
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: a team full of reserves and a bench and a

926
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: guy on guys on standby, you're only gonna see three

927
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: to five to six NFL players. And so most NFL

928
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: teams are not going to send a player to the Olympics.

929
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: And I think that is the lesson from this. Joe

930
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: Burrow wants to play. Yeah, you probably get one NFL quarterback.

931
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: It's only gonna be a handful of guys. And after

932
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: watching this, that could be.

933
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: That could be a Kyler Murray. By the way, it

934
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: could be a Kyler Kyler would be great. Kyler would

935
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: fit that.

936
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Kyler would be perfect.

937
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: All right.

938
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're gonna talk to Quincy Williams, new

939
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: Brown's linebacker. Also coming up the official playing rules, by

940
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: laws and resolution proposals for next week's owners meeting, the

941
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: annual Meeting have just come down and there is one

942
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: that will blow your mind that is coming up in

943
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,160
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Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliato, Thank you for listening to another edition of CBDO.

951
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: Coming up, Quincy Williams, new Browns linebacker formerly of the

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958
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Speaker 2: great day. Coming up in a bit after Quincy Williams wanna,

959
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: I want to tell you about a an NFL proposal

960
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: that just came down the line we knew. For example,

961
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: at the owners meetings, the annual meeting next week in Phoenix,

962
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: they're going to vote on the Browns proposal. By the way,

963
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: I like it about trading draft picks five years out,

964
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: it's not just first round picks, it's any draft pick

965
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: five years out. The NBA is seven years out, the

966
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: NFL is three years out. There's no reason you can't

967
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: split the differ. For instance, a five is a reasonable number.

968
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: It's not because some team may tank and trade five

969
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: number ones to get up to the top spot next

970
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: year to draft whatever quarterback they want Na Manning next year.

971
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: That's not why this thing makes sense. It makes sense

972
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: because five is reasonable. But that aside. At those owners meetings,

973
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: they're going to also vote on some playing rule changes

974
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: by law resolution proposals, and one of them is eye opening.

975
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: And it isn't just that you could do an on

976
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: side kick whenever you want to, potentially next year, which

977
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: should be the rule. We'll get to that coming up

978
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 2: in a second. In the meantime, let's flash back, shall

979
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: we to a guy who fancies himself as the joker,

980
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: A guy who has some green hair, but it's not

981
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: because he's a former New York Jet, A guy that

982
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: says he probably has to get rid of that green

983
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: hair because he is now a Brown. He said he

984
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: was born a dog, so this makes sense. Had a

985
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 2: chance to talk to New Brown's linebacker Quincy Williams, best

986
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: podcast available and the best linebacker available for the Browns.

987
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: The newest member of that linebacker room joins us now

988
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: in BPA, Quincy Williams, who just said, Quincy, you were

989
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: born a dog.

990
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was born So I was trying to figure

991
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 6: out what do you say here? Uh? I was like,

992
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 6: I'm a Brown now. I just signed my count chase

993
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 6: on a Brown. And I thought about it and I

994
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 6: was like, I'm a dog, but I was a dog

995
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 6: already when I was born.

996
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: You were born a dog? My friend, Hey, this is

997
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: this is your destiny? Is is that what you're saying?

998
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it's my Deskney for real?

999
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: How did you take me through this process? Rudy called

1000
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: you up? Who called you up? How'd you become a Brown?

1001
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: Rudy called me up, said he trust me, and I say, yeah,

1002
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 6: I trust you. And then so we had another conversation

1003
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: for as a personal conversation. We got a personal relationship.

1004
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 6: It was my first linebacker coach in the league and

1005
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 6: so he's been all three teams with me too, so

1006
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 6: we just got a different kind of relationship for real.

1007
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 6: The biggest thing was he was like, do you trust me?

1008
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 6: I was like yeah, and then he was like I

1009
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 6: need you and I was like, all right, bet, I'm

1010
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 6: on the way.

1011
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: I love that. Did you see his press conference last

1012
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: week in Clearing Nah?

1013
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 6: I didn't really see the press cont because I been

1014
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 6: staying off social media other than just the reposts and

1015
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 6: stuff like that, just because everything's been going on. You

1016
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 6: mentioned he what he said, He didn't say that.

1017
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: Building a personal relationship with a player and how you know,

1018
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: as a as a young position coach, like that's such

1019
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: an important thing. Obviously now he's a defensive coordinator, but

1020
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: he used like bonding with you as an example of

1021
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: connecting with players and building things.

1022
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, his philosophy is you can get more off a

1023
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 6: guy if you know what is why he is. And

1024
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 6: he takes that whole hardly. I mean far as like

1025
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 6: starting every single meeting novel like, hey, how you feeling.

1026
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 6: I mean as being a player, not a lot of play,

1027
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 6: not a lot of people ask you how you're feeling,

1028
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 6: just because it's in your nature to be strong, and

1029
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 6: it's also in your nature that you're getting paid me

1030
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 6: and dollars, so you got to be happy. You don't

1031
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 6: have a financial burden or anything, so you don't have

1032
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 6: anything to be sad about. But he actually get into

1033
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 6: the deep rooted thing far as like family and things

1034
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 6: like that. So when you're on the field, when you're

1035
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 6: playing for someone like that, you have that mindset of

1036
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 6: like I'm feeding my family. But I'm also feeding that

1037
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 6: guy's right there family. He cares about me, and he

1038
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 6: came in return and turned it back and called me

1039
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 6: and said, hey, I need you here. So he's here

1040
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 6: to feed my family. So you know what I'm here

1041
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 6: to do, feed the family.

1042
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: Tell us about what this defense is going to look like.

1043
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: You've played against the Browns when you know Jim Schwartz

1044
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: is here in twenty twenty three, when the Browns made

1045
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. I don't even want to bring

1046
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: up last year's game because I was one of the

1047
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: worst games I've been doing my entire life. I'm sorry

1048
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: you were there, you had a sack, you had a

1049
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: great game. I know you didn't start that day. We'll

1050
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: get to that in the second, but like that game

1051
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: was a mess. But you've seen the Browns defense, and

1052
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: you know what you guys play aid with the Jets.

1053
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: Not only forget about last year, the years past defense.

1054
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 6: We talked about the year the All Pro, my all

1055
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 6: Pro year. So it's very good coming back from a

1056
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 6: defense that's exact same same for exac same aks to

1057
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: me saying I can't say exact same. I just got

1058
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 6: here today. So but far as what I've heard in

1059
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 6: the quick car watch conversations I've had sounds like the

1060
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 6: same defense. I'm gonna be asked to do the same thing.

1061
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 6: So I'm excited about that just because that's why I

1062
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 6: feel the most comfort comfortable at And then also that's

1063
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 6: something I feel like I've mastered already. And so the

1064
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 6: new things that Dave Browns asked me to do, I'm

1065
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 6: cool with doing those things too, for sure.

1066
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: So let's go back to that game last year, because

1067
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: you have kind of no no, hear me out. I

1068
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: just wan't to talk about your journey. It's kind of

1069
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: a roller coaster year for you, right last year? Yeah,

1070
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: last year you came back with a vengeance. What was

1071
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: last year like for you?

1072
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 6: I ain't They ain't put me on the beach. Oh

1073
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 6: you're talking about that one incident. That one Yeah, that

1074
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 6: one incident was more of a me coming back from injury.

1075
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 6: I was about five games from an injury and then

1076
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Speaker 6: me and one of the coaches didn't see to eye

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 6: on one of the plays or whatever. So me just

1078
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 6: now coming back from injury. Of course he's going to

1079
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 6: pull his big, big, big brother pants on you feel me?

1080
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 6: So he set me down and I didn't start, but

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00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 6: I think I only sat down with three plays and

1082
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 6: then starting the rest of the game. Had a killer game.

1083
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 6: So what I can take from that is you can't

1084
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 6: be holding me back. No one can tell qus he

1085
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 6: what he can and can't do for real.

1086
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: You know, we go to the Jets, actually played there twice,

1087
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: Jets and last year.

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 6: Yeah it's hey, I'm the joker. I'm going back to

1089
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 6: Godlin City.

1090
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: So you've already thought about.

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00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 6: It, man, I circled it on my calendar. Maybe maybe

1092
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 6: I picked this team because they played the Jets. You

1093
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 6: never know did that? Actually?

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00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: You know, I was going through your game walk. You've

1095
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: never played against your brother. You've played with your brother,

1096
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: but never against your brother.

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 6: I played on my first year, our first year, we

1098
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 6: jersey swapping and stuff. So that was the first year

1099
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 6: he was on the Jets. I was on Jaguars the

1100
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 6: first year. My family literally sold out that game. I'm

1101
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 6: so thankful for my support system. We don't play the

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 6: Cowboys this year, dude.

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: No, okay, this year. Totally forgot about that one. Malachi Corley,

1104
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: when the news of you coming to Cleveland got on

1105
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: on social media, he reached out or he commented, Do

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00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: you see what he said?

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00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 6: No, I didn't, but I have a video of Malaka

1108
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 6: trying to run me over in training camp last year

1109
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 6: and was at the Jets and I folded him and

1110
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 6: made him fumble. So yeah, you probably happy I'm here

1111
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 6: on his team.

1112
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: You made him into a phone book? Is that what

1113
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: you said?

1114
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 6: No, let's say launch Air made him into a launch aer.

1115
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: So here's what he said. He said, that's a Brown

1116
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: If I ever done net one with the one.

1117
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 6: There you go, doll, straight, doll, there you go.

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: One last thing here. You, as I mentioned, were in

1119
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: the building in twenty twenty three when the Browns Joe

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Speaker 2: Flackows quarterback on a Thursday night, made the playoffs and

1121
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: that building was rocking. Obviously Browns fans want to get

1122
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: back to that feeling. What do you remember about that

1123
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: night and the way Huntington Bank Field was shaking?

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 6: It was shaken. But what I do remember is on

1125
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 6: the field, the way the players celebrated. What I do

1126
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 6: remember is like the overwhelming of the players against us,

1127
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 6: and it's me coming as like talking as the opposing player, right,

1128
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 6: Just the overwhelming of the offense and the defense as

1129
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 6: they were beating us, and then the fans also bringing

1130
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 6: into it, so you felt the overwhelmen of like the

1131
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 6: fans on you, and then also having to go against

1132
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 6: this guy who's talking all this stuff, who's celebrating in

1133
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 6: your face and stuff, just saying, bro, y'all just got

1134
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 6: a little bit more time. So you're actually giving me

1135
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 6: advice and beating me. Now that's the best form of disrespect.

1136
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 6: So that's the best form of disrespect. I'm coming here

1137
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 6: to bring.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Actually, no, I lied.

1139
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: One more thing. You met Tarvor, right, Jason Tarvor your

1140
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: position coach?

1141
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? I did, okay did? He got a lot of history,

1142
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 6: a lot of history. Man, he actually coached my deevs

1143
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 6: a coordinator from a pro year brick So learning all

1144
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 6: that information, didn't learning his tree and then learn the

1145
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 6: relationship that he has a rooty rudy giving him that salute.

1146
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 6: It's one of those things. Well, all right, my linebery

1147
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 6: coach is verified.

1148
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 5: Good.

1149
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: We love the guy. Do you know that you and

1150
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: he have the same birthday?

1151
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 6: Hang it in tell me there you go. That's crazy.

1152
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 6: I literally just finished talking to him.

1153
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 5: There you go.

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01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: I have the same birthday as well. That's the only

1155
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 2: reason I was looking.

1156
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 6: I was looking you up, my line man.

1157
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: We all have the same birthday.

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01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Well, on that note, I'll say happy birthday in training camp.

1160
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: Hope to see before that, obviously, I know I will

1161
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: welcome to Cleveland, Quincy, and we're excited to have you man.

1162
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 6: All right, I'm excited to be here.

1163
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: And be sure to wish Quincy Williams a happy birthday

1164
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: on the twenty eighth of August. Brown's need another linebacker obviously.

1165
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: Jason Tarborough was on the show yesterday with Nathan It

1166
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: goes without saying because if you add up Easton Mascarenas, Arnold,

1167
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: who was a very good special teams contributor last year

1168
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: as a rookie out of USC, Winston Reed and Bookie

1169
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: Watson were both injured last year. There was Eddie o Lafotio,

1170
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Speaker 2: who's bounced around Washington and Buffalo. He was on the

1171
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: practice squad majority of the year. That group, with Devin

1172
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: Bush out of here, played a combined twelve defensive snaps

1173
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: last year. Right Jerome Baker is unsigned. My mood Diabadi

1174
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: signed yesterday. They didn't tender him, which is a bit surprising.

1175
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: He signed yesterday in Tennessee. So he is gone. We

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01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: wish him well. Browns needed another linebacker. Don't panic like

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: there was another wave of free agency. The waves keep

1178
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Speaker 2: on coming. Is there anyone out there you want?

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 6: No?

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01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: Not now. I love Bobby Wagner, but that's not happening.

1181
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: So there's the draft. I think at thirty three overall

1182
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: last year, you've had a pretty good linebacker. Doesn't mean

1183
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: you're going to draft a line backer thirty seven this

1184
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: year in the second round, nor ad six or twenty four.

1185
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: Who knows. My point is there are plenty of moves

1186
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: that can be made. Training camp is not open until

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01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: late July. Don't have the exact day yet, but late

1188
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: July in the preseason obviously is not until after the

1189
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game, that is August. There's a long

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Speaker 2: way between now and then. I would not be worried.

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Speaker 2: You also need another safety. You also probably need another

1192
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: outside corner. Yes, I'm with Nathan. I would love to

1193
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: see mj Emerson back. That it's not happening as of now.

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Speaker 2: All right, back to the league meeting that is next week.

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Speaker 2: have no doubt I'll be on show. And when we

1205
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: get there, they are going to vote on something which

1206
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: would fundamentally change the way the game is officiated next year.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you about that coming up next after this.

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Speaker 2: They are back. I don't know next week. I think

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Speaker 2: you get me today, get me tomorrow. We have in

1222
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Speaker 2: advance of the league meeting, the annual Meeting, the owners meetings,

1223
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: as they are known by most, the rule changes that

1224
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: they're going to be voting on. Some of them you've

1225
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: heard about, like the Steelers allowing the Zoom meetings and

1226
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: all that ahead of free agency that's going to pass.

1227
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: They allowed it this year. I'd assume they'd continue it.

1228
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: No one complained that I know of. The Browns had

1229
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: the proposal to extend the number of years in advance

1230
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: for which you can trade draft picks. Currently it's three.

1231
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: And this isn't just first round picks, it's any pick whatsoever.

1232
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: If you want to flip somebody a conditional seven five

1233
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: years in advance, you could potentially do it. If you're

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: trying to get say somebody at the cutdown date that

1235
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: another team is getting rid of and you don't want

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: to lose them when they go through waivers. So right

1237
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 2: now it's three, they want to push it to five.

1238
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: I can tell you that the Browns are not the

1239
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: only team that are for this or that is for this.

1240
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's going to pass, but I do

1241
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: think there is a little momentum. If not this year,

1242
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: then maybe next. And you need twenty four votes, so

1243
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: twenty four votes is not easy to get. I do

1244
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: think that there is some room here to discuss to

1245
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: get this changed, and I do think five is reasonable,

1246
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's gonna happen this year. I

1247
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: could be wrong. Here is what came down today that

1248
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: is interesting, not just the onside kick proposal. Right now

1249
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: you have to declare an on sidekick, you have to

1250
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: be trailing, it has to be the fourth quarter of

1251
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: those things. They want to make it where it's back

1252
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: to the good old days on sidekick. Whenever you want

1253
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: to on sidekick, that's fine. I think that probably gets passed.

1254
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: It is playing rule proposal number five. I'm gonna read

1255
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: it to you. This is right from the league release

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01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: number five proposed by the Competition Committee for one year

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01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: only to allow the NFL Officiating Department to correct clear

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: and obvious misses made by on field officials that impact

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: the game in the event there is a workstoppage involving

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01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: the game officials represented by the NFL Referees Association. I'll

1261
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: say that again, in case there's a work stoppage, the

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: Competition Committee is proposing quote for one year only to

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01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: allow the NFL Officiating Department to correct clear and obvious

1264
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: misses made by on field officials that impact the game.

1265
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: Go back to the officiating lockout and the fail Mary

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in Seattle. They got it wrong. They could

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01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: fix it if that were to happen this year. According

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Speaker 2: to the way this is written, this is unlike anything

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: we have ever seen. Now. What they want to do

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01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: is they want to thread the needle and say, well,

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Speaker 2: you know what, this is really only for player safety stuff. Okay, So,

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Speaker 2: for example, if there's a roughing the passer on the field,

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01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: if a designated member the Officiating Department identifies clear and

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: obvious video evidence of an act that constitutes any of

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Speaker 2: the following fouls that were not called, then he or

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: she may provide information regarding the correct application of the

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: playing rules and advise, consult or assist the on field

1278
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: officials to administer the appropriate foul and penalty for roughing

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: the passer, intention, grounding or three an act that would

1280
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: result in disqualification. So, if I'm reading this the right way,

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: it says if there's a work stoppage. Now the question

1282
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: is are you voting this in regardless of whether or

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01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 2: not there's a work stoppage, or only in the event

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01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: of a work stoppage. But there is a world this

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01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: year in which the official on the field misses a

1286
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: roughing the passer, it is clearly roughing the passer in

1287
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: other words, like a blow to the head, a blow

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Speaker 2: to the head and neck area of a protected player

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Speaker 2: i e. A quarterback, in which the league can hit

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Speaker 2: a button, get on the headset with the official and

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Speaker 2: say that should be roughing the passer. Drop the flag.

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Speaker 2: This is an entirely new world. They say they want

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Speaker 2: to vote it in for a one year thing. It's

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Speaker 2: an experimental phase. The gray area here to me is

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Speaker 2: is this own in the event of a work stoppage

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Speaker 2: or would they do this for the veteran officials, the

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Speaker 2: people you saw last year, anyone that they would bring

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Speaker 2: in new this year, other than the quote unquote replacement officials.

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Speaker 2: That's part of it. Here's another part of it. Fouls

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Speaker 2: that were called on the field. If the on field

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Speaker 2: officials call any of the following fouls, and a designated

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Speaker 2: member of the officiating department, meaning somebody in New York,

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01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: identifies clear and obvious video evidence that at least one

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01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: element of the foul is not present, meaning they got

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: it wrong, then he or she may provide information regarding

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Speaker 2: the correct application of the playing rule and advice, consult with,

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01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: or assist the on field official to nullify the foul,

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: in other words, to pick up the flag, twisting, pulling

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01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: or turning of the face mask, roughing, intentional grouding, grounding,

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: horse collar, illegal contact, pass interference only if there is

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 2: clear and obvious video evidence that there was inadvertent tangling

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 2: or inadvertent tangling of feet when both players were playing

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01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: the ball or neither player was playing the ball, and disqualification.

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Speaker 2: This is a brand new world. This is a world

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Speaker 2: in which and it isn't voted in yet, it may

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: not get voted in. You need twenty four votes. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, if this doesn't go to vote, if

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Speaker 2: it's quote unquote tabled until May, it means they don't

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: have the votes period. But this is a brand new

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: world in which the NFL for the very first time

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: is at least rolling the ball out there with the

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 2: possibility of dropping flags from New York. Hey, it's about time,

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01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: you really think so.

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Speaker 3: But I am in favor. But at the same time,

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: I said this to you earlier when we went through

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Speaker 3: this during a commercial break, I said, how much is

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: this going to impede the pace of play?

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01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: It is absolutely going to slow the game down.

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's where the problem is it is, and

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01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,480
Speaker 3: that's where everybody's going to have a problem.

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't have a problem with them picking up

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: a flag. I don't like for example, if how many

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: bad roughing calls have we seen? How many every game?

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01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: Well that's a rough and call. Twitter explodes flag football.

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 2: All you have to do is listen to our broadcast.

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: They miss plenty. Yeah, obviously, sometimes I lose my mind,

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: notably during Steeler games. I lose my mind. I think

1338
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen should have been ejected fifty times last year.

1339
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm kidding only one agrees once or twice. I'm all

1340
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: for picking up bad flags, like you call roughing and

1341
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: they claim body weight and there's clearly no body weight.

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: The guy rolled off him where they say he hit

1343
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 2: him in the head, and clearly he hit him in

1344
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: the shoulder. You want to pick up those flags. I

1345
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: think we can all agree pick up those flags, like,

1346
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: no matter how it happens, no matter how long it takes,

1347
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: get it right. Because how many times have we seen

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01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: a third down in completion the defense celebrates, Here comes

1349
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: the punt team, and then you look behind the play

1350
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: and there's a flag. And there's a flag because he

1351
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: got called for roughing after the ball was thrown bad pass,

1352
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: not even close. Quarterback for all intents and purposes, is

1353
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: throwing it away so he doesn't get killed. Then they say,

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: you know what, defensive lineman, linebacker, blitzing, dB whatever hit

1355
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback in the head. He clearly did not hit

1356
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback in the head, and he hit him in

1357
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: the shoulder. That defense should be rewarded. If you can

1358
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: fix that from New York, or if you'd fix that

1359
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 2: with another set of officials, another set of eyes in

1360
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: the building upstairs, then you should fix that. We all

1361
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: agree the idea that penalties that were missing. I know

1362
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: this is mildly illogical because the same logic should apply

1363
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: to calls that were missed where a flag was thrown

1364
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: and calls that were missed when there was no flag.

1365
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: The league has always, always, always said the line we

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01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 2: will not cross is have somebody in New York dropping

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01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: a flag. That's the phrase they use, dropping a flag.

1368
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: It looks like they are ready to at least dip

1369
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: their toe in the water and go there. I don't

1370
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: know that I want to go there. I just don't.

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: The bar has to be so high.

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: So here, here's the problem, like what's gonna get looked

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: at and overturned and what's not? That's the other problem

1374
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 3: this list. I know, I know you're giving this list

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 3: of things, but what if the team goes no huddle?

1376
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: Are are they going to stop the game and pick

1377
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: up the flag. I'm sorry to drop a flag. So

1378
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: for the record, here it says fowls not called on

1379
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: the field. They can drop one for roughing the passer,

1380
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: intentional grounding, and an act that would result in somebody

1381
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: being disqualified. In other words, if somebody threw a punch

1382
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: behind the play that didn't get flagged.

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 3: Okay, but again at the speed like play ends? What's

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: there twenty five seconds?

1385
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: Like, do you have enough time to review it without

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 3: stopping the pace of play?

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01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: You don't in a two minute situation. I don't know.

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01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 6: So.

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01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: Actually, here it is after the two minute warning, foul

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01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: assistance after the two minute warning. In addition to the

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: fowls listed for any of the starts after the two

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01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: minute warning and throughout overtime, a designated member the officiating

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: department may also provide information regarding the correct application of

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: playing rules for unnecessary roughness, throwing a punch, leverage and leaping,

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: running into a roughing the kicker. So no, to answer

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 2: a question, it looks like they've already they've already thought

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: of that, and they are not gonna stop a game

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: for roughing the passer inside of the two minute warning.

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: They're not gonna do that. They're not going to drop

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01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: a flag for PI, but they can fix a PI

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: if they don't think it was PI as called on

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01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: the field.

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you turn that around that quickly,

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01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: But who knows, you know, we'll see. My bigger concern

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01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 3: is this is the second or third little mention that

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: I've heard from the NFL about possible replacement refs, which

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: means the NFL and the referee Union are not clearly

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 3: getting along.

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, no they're not, and that's been well documented. They're

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01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: going to continue talks, I think again this week or next. No,

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 2: right now there is no deal, and when there is

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01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: no deal and grant it. Look, we're still a couple

1414
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: of months away. But we're actually closer than you think

1415
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: because the officials have season seminars. The officials sometimes come

1416
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: to rookie Mini Caamp, they come to OTAs they come

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01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: to mandatory Mini camp. Mandatory Mini Camp is in June,

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: a full month before training camp. Those officials are full

1419
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: time NFL officials who are there to assist in the

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: officiating in practice so the players can get used to

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01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: the new things, the new rules, whatever is or is

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: in past. Also it's good for them. It's their ramp

1423
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: up period as well. Their off season program is well.

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01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,919
Speaker 2: So if there is no deal, don't think those officials

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01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: would be present. You'd have to get other officials. They

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01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: are not necessarily close to getting anything done. My guess

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01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: is because deadline spur action. My guess is this thing

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: is going to come right down of the wire.

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 3: I will tell you this little fun fact. I was

1430
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 3: in green Bay the week after that debacle against Seattle.

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01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 3: I've never seen so much security for the officiating crew

1432
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: after that debacle. Buddy, they got it. They cost Green

1433
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 3: Bay a game. It was insane how much security there was.

1434
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 3: Like during a timeout, there was a security Like the

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: officials went and all stood together and there were at

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01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: least one or two security people.

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, for the record, I'm not

1438
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,799
Speaker 2: suggesting that they should have been fearing for their safety.

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01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 2: Correctcurity is a good thing. They got it wrong. I

1440
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: was doing the post game that night on NFL Network,

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01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget it. God bless Steve Mariucci. I

1442
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: love him. He's a dear friend. He is not one

1443
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 2: to come out guns blazing and really go after anybody.

1444
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: And I remember Mooch was doing post that night and

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: I looked at him, go, Mooch, just point blank, did

1446
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: they get it right or did they get it wrong?

1447
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: He goes, they got it wrong. They got it wrong.

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01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, there you go. They got it wrong.

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 3: It was a crazy time. I just again going back

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 3: to this, I don't know how like how you review

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01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 3: it quick enough unless you're just gonna stop no matter what,

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01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: for anything questionable or for what questionable whatever is on

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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: that list, I should clear.

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01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't pass. We'll see.

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01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah again, you need twenty four out of thirty two votes.

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01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: They will vote on this next week coming up. Hey, gibe,

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01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: you want to do the Max Crosby story here? Do

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01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: you want to do the the over under for the

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01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: AFC North Uh?

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Speaker 3: Actually, we'll do because it's one final segment. Oh, we'll

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 3: do a little. That's how quick the show goes, buddy.

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01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: We'll do a little mail bag and mix Crosby.

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01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: How about mail bag the poll results? Browns Underscore Daily

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01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 2: on Twitter. If it isn't Carnell Tait, who do you want?

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01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson, McKay Lemon, Denzel Boston, Omar Cooper or other

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01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: will pay that off coming up as well. As you

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Speaker 2: for Bo and Nathan Gibbey is here as well. We

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: had a poll question. Let's get the poll question back

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01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: to you. It's on ex or the Twitter, whatever you're

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01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 2: gonna call it. At Brown's Underscore Daily, Chris Sims at

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01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: his top five receiver rankings. If you were to take

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01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: Carnell Tate out of it, which wide receiver do you want?

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01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson, Mackay Lemon, Denzel Boston, Omar Cooper or option

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: five would be other? Please give a name for other, Gibbe,

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01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: do we have a leader in the clubhouse or some

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01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: kind of result? We do recinct reporting.

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01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 3: We do UH with thirty two percent of the vote,

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 3: by the way, pretty tight race. Thirty two percent of

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01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 3: the vote. Jordan Tyson from Arizona State as your winner,

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01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 3: and I believe field Yates about twenty minutes ago posted

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01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 3: that mister Tyson is going to work out for teams

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01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: on a limited basis April seventeenth, so six days before

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Speaker 3: the drectress.

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Speaker 2: So that's the big issue with him. Obviously, we know

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: he has injury issues. He missed four games last year

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Speaker 2: with hamstring injuries, and it was both hamstrings from what

1498
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: I understand. A couple of years ago, he blewes knee

1499
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: at ACLMCL the whole thing. So the concern around the

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01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: league isn't that you missed four games. You can miss

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 2: four games. It happens. There are plenty of guys in

1502
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 2: this draft that miss an entire season, right but show

1503
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: me something, now, show me right now that you are healthy.

1504
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson. I thought I was right next to him

1505
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 2: when he was on the podium, But the combine, I

1506
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:49,919
Speaker 2: thought it was great. He was glib, he he connected

1507
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: well with anyone who asked a question. He gave good answers.

1508
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: I love the guy personality wise. You're gonna like him.

1509
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: You turn on the tape, you're gonna like him, but

1510
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: no one has seen him do anything in this off

1511
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: season pref process. He did nothing at the Combine and

1512
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: no one has seen to do anything since. Scheduling a

1513
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: workout six days before the draft is something I would

1514
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: love to know why you couldn't do it before? And

1515
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: the medical on him is going to be huge. Do

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01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: you trust that he can stay healthy in a day

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: and age of The medical is everything? You'd need some

1518
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 2: kind of assurance. You don't want to take a massive

1519
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: swing in the first round and then cruss your fingers

1520
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 2: and open the guy's healthy.

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 3: He will work out for NFL teams April seventeenth, doing

1522
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: positional work only, but at least teams will get a

1523
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 3: chance to look at him prior to the draft.

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: Okay, that is important. I don't know that I need

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: to see you run. I would like to see you run,

1526
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: but your short area of quickness getting it in out

1527
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 2: of breaks. I mean that's a significant part of this

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 2: as well. All right, So Jordan Tyson is the winner.

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01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: Andon is one, Mackay Lemon with twenty six percent. Yeah,

1530
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 3: and then a tie with twenty percent each, Denzel Boston

1531
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 3: and Omar Cooper Junior.

1532
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: Makai Lemon is a dog. He's not the biggest guy's

1533
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: five eleven. He's more than a slot. He can play slide,

1534
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:21,839
Speaker 2: he could play z He is a physical he doesn't

1535
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 2: drop the ball, power through like he's going to work

1536
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: the middle of the field. He is going to break tackles.

1537
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to go over the middle of the field.

1538
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: He can win on the outside as well. Mackay Lemon

1539
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: is a beast. He's just not the biggest guy in

1540
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: the world.

1541
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 4: Now.

1542
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 2: He's bigger than zacharyat Branch, who's not going to be

1543
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 2: a first round pick, but he is a weapon. Both

1544
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: played at Sea a least Branch started there. He's a physical,

1545
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: physical guy.

1546
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 3: Do you have mail bag questions, Kidbay, I do have

1547
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: a couple coming in here. Uh uh, Greister tweets at

1548
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 3: the program Brown's Underscore Daily. You guys talked about flag

1549
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 3: full football requiring different skills from the NFL game. Would

1550
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: there be a risk of NFL players playing in the

1551
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 3: Olympics developing bad habits that might be hard to shake

1552
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 3: in training camp?

1553
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: And No, I don't think so at all, Not at all.

1554
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's an issue. I think the issue

1555
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: is injuries. But That's always the issue with any competition.

1556
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: If you look at the Olympics in hockey, Yes, team

1557
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 2: USA won gold and both the men's and the women's,

1558
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 2: but there were players that suffered legitimate injuries on the

1559
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: men's side, not to say that they weren't on the

1560
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: women's side as well. But for example, what's his name

1561
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: for the Ala Kings, Gabe? Who's the guy in the

1562
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: Kings that got hurt?

1563
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: Kevin?

1564
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: Thank you him?

1565
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 3: He blew a human encyclopedia.

1566
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he blew his Yet done for the year, So

1567
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: that's the concern. Watching Joe Burrow try to juke five

1568
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: foot seven guys, I don't need to see that. Yeah,

1569
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't need that. That's the concern. Pulling a hammy

1570
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: and then you you miss the first month of training camp,

1571
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: the only month of training camp, and are you going

1572
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: to be ready for week one? That's the concern.

1573
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 3: Alfonso Taylor, what would you do for a Brown Super

1574
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: Bowl this year? And who is your favorite QB not

1575
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 3: named Mendoza in this class this year?

1576
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: Who's my favorite QB not named Mendoza? I think the

1577
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: obvious answer is Ty Simpson. I Am not going to

1578
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: pound the table. However, like our friend Danie Rolovski does,

1579
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: who certainly knows more about quarterback play than I do,

1580
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: that he should be a top ten pick, or that

1581
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: his tape looks better than Mendoza now early season, late

1582
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: season tailor two different halves of the season. For both

1583
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks, Mendoza's best moments came to the end

1584
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 2: of the season against the best competition. To me, that

1585
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: should be worth more. Early in the season, ty Simpson

1586
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: looked fantastic and then he got banged up, badly banged up.

1587
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: Garrett Nusmyer last year, badly banged up. There's a little

1588
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 2: bit of Baker in Garrett nus Meyer's game, not the

1589
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: biggest guy. He goes into hero mode late in games

1590
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 2: and it is fun to watch. But his twenty twenty

1591
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: four tape was much better than his twenty twenty five tape.

1592
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson's the easiest answer there, And what would I

1593
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: do if the Browns win the Super Bowl?

1594
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 3: For a Brown Super Bowl?

1595
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: What would I do? Believe, like we're talking like cut

1596
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: off a limb, that kind of thing.

1597
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 3: What would you do for a Brown Super Bowl this year?

1598
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that. I don't know

1599
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: if that's we can say that on the air.

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01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I what would I do if they were

1601
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: to do it? I would break down in tears. I've

1602
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: thought about that my entire life. I don't know that

1603
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: I would What you want me to like empty my

1604
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: bank account? You want me to like make some ridiculous

1605
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: offer to like walk from here to the other side

1606
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 2: of the country, that kind of thing, like my guy

1607
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: Tony Bruno once did. Yeah, there's that. What else?

1608
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 3: That's it? Right now? It's a little light. Oh, I

1609
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 3: got another one here from Djenko. One word to describe

1610
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,919
Speaker 3: the Browns free agency period.

1611
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,879
Speaker 2: One word, not two words.

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01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: You can do two words. I'll let you, I'll let

1613
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 3: it go.

1614
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: My two words are a start. It's a good start,

1615
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: good start. The offensive line is better today than it

1616
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: was a month ago. You can't replace an entire offensive

1617
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: line with five draft picks. You can't. Now good way

1618
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: for team building. Ab said at the combine that the

1619
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: Bears were kind of the model, a little bit in

1620
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: the draft, a little bit in free agency, a little

1621
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: bit in trades, and so far they've done the trade

1622
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: in the free agency part. Now they got to do

1623
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: the draft part. We haven't gotten to the Max Crosby

1624
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: thing I want to do that. There's a long, long,

1625
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: long article on ESPN dot com today that attempts to

1626
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: shed a little bit of light on what went down

1627
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 2: between the Friday when the Max Crosby trade was announced

1628
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: between the Raiders and the Ravens for two first round picks,

1629
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: and then the following Monday when the whole thing fell through.

1630
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: The key thing that came out of this and the

1631
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 2: headline here is I'm going to read from the article.

1632
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: The consensus was that Crosby would be able to play

1633
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. This is after the physical The

1634
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 2: Ravens concern centered on the uncertainty of Crosby's durability after

1635
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 2: a couple of seasons in Baltimore because of a degenerative

1636
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: issue in his knee, a source tells ESPN. This article

1637
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 2: also pushes back against the idea that Crosby saw nobody

1638
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: for five hours after arriving in Baltimore, it says. After

1639
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: this story was initially published, a source indicated that Jesse

1640
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Minter and other defensive coaches met with Crosby within minutes

1641
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: of him walking into the team facility. Again, I am

1642
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 2: just reading from the ESPN dot com article. I think

1643
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: all the above can be true. And I also have

1644
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: heard that the Ravens were scared off if you will

1645
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: buy a degenerative or a long term analysis of his

1646
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: knee injury and the fact that they handled it the

1647
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 2: wrong way. So both are true. This article sheds a

1648
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: little more insight on what they thought they saw with

1649
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: the knee, and at the same time we all agree

1650
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: they handled it the wrong way.

1651
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 5: All right.

1652
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 2: Coming up tomorrow, I'm gonna talk to my friend Judy

1653
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,719
Speaker 2: Batista from NFL Network. Judy with a little more insight

1654
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 2: on what could be changing here with all the rules stuff.

1655
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 2: That's it for Gibbe. For Gabe, I'm Andrews Siliano. We'll

1656
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: talk to you about Jay Cleveland. Oh, doctor J. I'm sorry,

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01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 2: Doctor J. This is CB and present of my Ballely bet.

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