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Speaker 1: The nick A Gliser Podcast, Nick Glaser, here's Nikky. Hello here,

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Speaker 1: I am welcome to the show. It's Nicky Glazer Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Fresh week of Shows. Everyone's here, the whole gang. Brian

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Speaker 1: Frangie on your Marina and Noah is in Arizona. Guys,

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Speaker 1: what's up? How is your weekends? Anything? Any headlines? Because

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Speaker 1: mine was pretty uneventful. I'm a song. Oh we all

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Speaker 1: have so much stuff. Brian, would you like re recording

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Speaker 1: a song?

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Speaker 2: I am re re recording a song of mine from

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Speaker 2: the past, and it's been fun and a challenge and

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Speaker 2: I realized I really hate mixing, but the recording, the

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Speaker 2: writing part is fun.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean is fun?

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Speaker 2: Mixing is like just tweaking stuff. So it's all been

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Speaker 2: it's been written, it's been recorded, and now it's like,

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Speaker 2: can we bring the cello? Like it's going, did hit?

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Speaker 1: Did edit?

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Speaker 3: Can we have it?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 2: Did it? Did did it? It's just like, okay, that'll

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Speaker 2: take forty five minutes. It's just tedious TV.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that nice because you can go like I want

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Speaker 1: the shell to go. Did it?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 1: Did? Did it? And I'm gonna go make a tea

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Speaker 1: and go sit and pet my dog for forty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Like I like when things take long to have to

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Speaker 1: do because then I have time, Like I'm doing something,

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Speaker 1: but I'm I can't do it. I mean, you're not

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Speaker 1: the one making the cello go dead in it. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's a good attitude to have, and that's what I

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Speaker 2: should do. I did get a lot of wordle done

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Speaker 2: and a lot of spelling bees done, so while I

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Speaker 2: was oh saying too.

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Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is the mixing is kind

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Speaker 1: of like the editing for my specials, which have always

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Speaker 1: been the worst weeks of my entire life. And I'm

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Speaker 1: I say that with no hyperbole. The worst times of

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Speaker 1: my life have been editing my specials because I have

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Speaker 1: to look at myself, listen to myself, make choices just

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Speaker 1: and mostly like, look at myself. But you don't seem

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Speaker 1: to have a problem listening to yourself, Like I do

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Speaker 1: you do you hear stuff and go God, I wish

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Speaker 1: I could do that again. No, it's no.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I'm like that was good, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: we should redo that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think it's good.

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Speaker 2: It's charming, Like my guitar parts are I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I used to hate my voice a lot, but you

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Speaker 2: get used to it. It's been so many years, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I would hate looking at myself. I think I would.

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Speaker 2: I could not stand that, Like I have to make

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Speaker 2: a video for this song, and I am dreading it,

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Speaker 2: absolutely dreading it, But you.

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Speaker 1: Couldn I can watch myself on mute. I can't listen

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Speaker 1: to myself because I just get annoyed with why didn't

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Speaker 1: you write a funnier line? Why did you why did

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Speaker 1: you emphasize that word instead of that word? I think

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Speaker 1: that so much of the artistry of stand up is

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Speaker 1: actually I mean, it is the audio. The visual is

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Speaker 1: like I'm always like, oh, my hair and makeup looks

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Speaker 1: good and my dress looks cute, Like, well, I can't

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Speaker 1: really like fuck with that, but the rest is all

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Speaker 1: up to me, Like I can blame my makeup on

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Speaker 1: my makeup girl and my parents for making my face

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Speaker 1: look like that because each other.

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Speaker 2: Stand up is like it's always evolving, whereas a song

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Speaker 2: usually it's like, okay, now it's done. When you record it,

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Speaker 2: it's done. But stand up, I guess you're always kind

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Speaker 2: of working on that. I guess with music it's sort

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Speaker 2: of the same, like that music. I was still the

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Speaker 2: same way of like that lyric could be better. Oh

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Speaker 2: that lyric is I know you have things where you're like, ah,

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Speaker 2: that was a c that lyric. I didn't really work

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Speaker 2: that hard and I could have made it an a

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Speaker 2: but like we just wanted to finish the song. But

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Speaker 2: you just feel like it's more once you recorded, it's

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Speaker 2: set in stone and you don't have regrets about it. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I did have that. This is Satellite Heart from the

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Speaker 2: Twilight soundtrack, which I kind of want to release Anya's

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Speaker 2: version because I never did own the master of that

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Speaker 2: because I had to sell it to the Twilight people

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Speaker 2: when it was on the soundtrack, and I really wanted

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Speaker 2: to redo it with Cello's and like something more organic,

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Speaker 2: and so now it's it sounds so cool, But re

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Speaker 2: recording it, I'm like, wait, how this song is very

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Speaker 2: It's like all the same tone and the thing that

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Speaker 2: makes it dramatic is all the other shit, like Cello's

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Speaker 2: coming in here, taking them away. Then there's drama, then

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Speaker 2: there's one the weird note here. But it's like I

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Speaker 2: didn't write that. I wrote a pretty like basic, pretty

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Speaker 2: song that stays in this zone of like mah. So

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Speaker 2: when I was recording it, I'm like, fuck, this is boring,

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Speaker 2: But it's not when it's finished, you know, when like

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Speaker 2: all the things have been added. But yeah, on its own,

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Speaker 1: Would you like Doney's version, Taylor Swift not done Taylor's versions?

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Speaker 1: Were you inspired by rerecording? Like, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: a lot of artists are starting to re record things

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Speaker 1: after I wasn't inspired to re record it.

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Speaker 2: I've wanted to do that for years because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I want to own this song. I want to put

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Speaker 2: it out myself. I almost did it on my my

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Speaker 2: live album a couple albums ago, but for some dumb reason,

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Speaker 2: I just didn't get to it. But I was inspired

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Speaker 2: to title it that. But now I'm like, maybe I

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Speaker 2: won't because I don't want to be like, you know,

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Speaker 2: like Taylor's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would be. I think it's cool

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Speaker 1: that she did that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's great when artists re record their stuff,

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Speaker 2: and it's great that she's been doing it like so

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Speaker 2: fast because.

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Speaker 1: It's becomes a story voice mature actually, because it's like

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Speaker 1: yours is like ten fifteen years later, right.

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Speaker 2: I was just a being them back to back, like

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Speaker 2: the old version and the new one, and I was like, fuck,

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Speaker 2: did I nail it in the old one? And I did,

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Speaker 2: but I sang a little differently, Like there's this one

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Speaker 2: line call It's about Bellow when she's depressed in Twilight,

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Speaker 2: and the little line that I wrote is, call on

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Speaker 2: all your girls, don't forget the boys, meaning call your friends,

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Speaker 2: don't forget to date other people too. Just because this

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Speaker 2: vampire left, you don't like become you know, a depressed

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Speaker 2: person sitting at home. But I sang it in the

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Speaker 2: original call on all your girls, don't forget the blaze.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, all right, little lady, like I was

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Speaker 2: this time, you're not doing that buzze yeah, like you're

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Speaker 2: not doing it like that. I was like, what was

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Speaker 2: I doing? I mean, it's kind of cool. I never

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Speaker 2: noticed it. Listening back, I was like, Okay, somebody's feeling it.

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Speaker 1: Feeling it. Do you think your voice sounds different? Because

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Speaker 1: on Taylor's different versions you can hear like you can

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Speaker 1: hear the maturation of her voice. I mean, granted, she

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Speaker 1: recorded a lot of these songs when she was eighteen,

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Speaker 1: so like there's been a lot of a change. Your

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Speaker 1: voice stops bearing at thirty three, So if you recorded

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Speaker 1: you want it eight or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But now and see how different it is because she

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Speaker 2: was really young.

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Speaker 1: And she did so different. Yeah, we'll speak now, and

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Speaker 1: Fearless is before to speak now, and she's done re

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Speaker 1: records of that too, so yeah, it just it sounds,

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Speaker 1: you can just it sounds like a girl singing and

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Speaker 1: then it sounds like a woman. And also I spent

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Speaker 1: all weekend watching vocal coaches on Instagram assessing Taylor's voice,

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Speaker 1: and they do the right thing, which is they never

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Speaker 1: say anything bad because they know better, so it's never

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Speaker 1: like they're a was just like and they play examples

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Speaker 1: of her belting out you know something from I Knew

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Speaker 1: You were trouble at like some awards show in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and then they do it now and it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: because they just some of them, some of them are

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Speaker 1: really annoying and they're like, oh, her dress is so pretty.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not what you're here for. Tell me

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Speaker 1: what she's doing with her mouth and her breath, and

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Speaker 1: like they're like, oh, look at her, she's a little fairy.

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Speaker 1: She is so cute. It's like, stop sucking up to

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Speaker 1: the swifties watching this. We all know you like her,

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Speaker 1: We all like we're on board. Ye. And so my

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Speaker 1: makeup by lady was doing my makeup and I was

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Speaker 1: watching them yesterday and I just kept screaming at like,

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Speaker 1: we get it. You think she's cute, you're a vocal coach.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what she's doing, What about her secret, why

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Speaker 1: she's saying mon instead of mine? And what that does

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Speaker 1: tour like, teach me the way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've been taking vocal lessons. I told you with

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Martin, who's fucking blowing my mind and irony of

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Speaker 2: all ironies. Charlotte is the ex wife of Ken Andrews,

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Speaker 2: who produced Satellite Heart for the Twilight soundtrack. So he

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Speaker 2: it's just weird that at this, like fourteen years later,

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Speaker 2: I'm re recording a song and now I just have

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Speaker 2: to by coincidence, just by coincidence, I'm recording a song

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Speaker 2: that my vocal teacher's ex husband like made.

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Speaker 1: So you knew her through him, right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I had met her years ago. She's an incredible singer songwriter,

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Speaker 2: and now she's teaching and she's like kicking my ass.

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Speaker 2: I've only had two lessons with her, but I like

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Speaker 2: her so much. She's insane. She I've like stalked her

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Speaker 2: on Instagram started during the pandemic. I'm just like, who

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Speaker 2: Charlotte is wild? Like, but uh, she's like teaching me

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Speaker 1: She's like, tighten your asshole, Tighten your asshole. My my,

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Speaker 1: my vocal coach does the same thing. Try to like

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Speaker 1: squash a peanut with your asshole when you're trying to

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Speaker 1: hit a high note, because it it I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it does, but it does. But he he always

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Speaker 1: tells me. He's like, he's like, do a key goal.

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Speaker 1: Like he's like trying not to talk about He's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is that you guys do down there to

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Speaker 1: tighten He's trying to be very respectful. So yeah, when

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Speaker 1: you go for a high note, tighten up down there,

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Speaker 1: your asshole, your keygels and it does work. Wait, so

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Speaker 1: that's how Mariah Carey gets those whistle tones. No, she is,

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Speaker 1: she's naturally just a really she just her body probably

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Speaker 1: does that naturally. I don't think she's definitely had training,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think the whistle tones are a different

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Speaker 1: a different thing. I think it means have a pin

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Speaker 1: and leave a little tiny space that's tinier than any

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Speaker 1: space you could imagine, and that's what the wind is

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Speaker 1: going through. What did you find out, Anya?

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Speaker 2: I found out I'm a coloratura, which I didn't even

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Speaker 2: I thought that was just a type of opera singer.

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Speaker 2: But Charlotte was like, your range is insane. And I've

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Speaker 2: never tell me any nice thing about my voice, because

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Speaker 2: my whole life people have told me my voice is

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Speaker 2: like inadequa nice to hear, I know. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I am, so it just means I have a really

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Speaker 2: high range. She's like, you're a fucking G six. Like

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Speaker 2: she's doing like da da da da da da da

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Speaker 2: da da dah dadda, and I'm like going higher and

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Speaker 2: higher and every octave She's like, fuck you, I hate you.

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Speaker 1: About what.

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Speaker 2: No don't like her standing up to old Fox News people.

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Speaker 1: No one likes her right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know no one.

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Speaker 1: We're going to a break and then we're going to

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Speaker 1: Where are you? I've been looking for you forever because

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Speaker 4: we're mad at you for disrespecting the movie and for

435
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Speaker 4: being a woman with an opinion like.

436
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Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

437
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 4: And then the woke people are also mad because and

438
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Speaker 4: this is more, this is less mad at Rachel Ziegler,

439
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 4: more mad at like just Disney and writing overall, because

440
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Speaker 4: they're saying.

441
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Speaker 3: Like Rachel is saying that we can't have a movie

442
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Speaker 3: where the main.

443
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Speaker 4: Character just falls in love and wants to find a

444
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Speaker 4: prince and settle down and have a home and all

445
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Speaker 4: that stuff.

446
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Speaker 3: And the people are saying, like, why is it that.

447
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: Every woman in every fucking thing in the last five

448
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 4: years needs to be a girl, boss bitch.

449
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: Why does every woman needs to.

450
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Speaker 4: Be an action hero protagonist that's just cutting bad guys

451
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Speaker 4: heads off while holding a baby in her arms. Can't

452
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Speaker 4: there be a protagonist that's just interested in, you know,

453
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Speaker 4: having a nice home and friends and stuff like that.

454
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Speaker 4: Why does it have to be every character that's a

455
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Speaker 4: woman has to be a strong female protagonist, boss bitch

456
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Speaker 4: who also has kids.

457
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Speaker 2: Because don't feel yes, yes, whole romantic love bullshit, being

458
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Speaker 2: like the Pinnacle and Barbie is really.

459
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Speaker 4: They got to the point to the point where you

460
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Speaker 4: can't have a female like I'm interested in finding a

461
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: huzz been in having a family, because that's not good enough.

462
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: And the lesson to be learned is like, no, a

463
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Speaker 4: woman can be any type of character. It doesn't have

464
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Speaker 4: to be either in the thirties a woman who just

465
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Speaker 4: falls in love or in the twenty twenties where a

466
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Speaker 4: woman has to be a CEO of.

467
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Speaker 3: A major corporation with three kids cutting.

468
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Speaker 4: People's heads off. Okay, it can be anything. And I think, well,

469
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Speaker 4: go on, Nikki, I mean I haven't there's a number.

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Speaker 1: Keep going, go go.

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Speaker 3: The other part to this is the dwarfs, right, we

472
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Speaker 3: all we all know about the dwarf situation where there's

473
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Speaker 3: the seven dwarfs and instead of making it seven dwarfs

474
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Speaker 3: with Peter Dinklich was very upset about they made one

475
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Speaker 3: dwarf and then six just uh characters from all across

476
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Speaker 3: the world.

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Speaker 1: Calls them freaks of nature. I think. Yeah. Timdall does

478
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Speaker 1: a great rant about what are these dwarves when they

479
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Speaker 1: announced it, he was like, they look like they got

480
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Speaker 1: seven random people from skid row. One doesn't have It's

481
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Speaker 1: like all different types of people, and it is a

482
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Speaker 1: characters that no one really wants to look at. I mean, no,

483
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Speaker 1: it's disturbing.

484
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Speaker 4: There's such a funny part in Tim's rant where he goes,

485
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Speaker 4: he look, there's a guy in the middle who just

486
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: looks like a white guy with long hair. And Tim's like,

487
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: what category is that guy? Why is he getting in

488
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Speaker 4: this little lineup?

489
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Speaker 1: Because they're trying to represent like the rainbow of like disabilities,

490
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: and you know, and there isn't a is there a

491
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Speaker 1: dwarf in them?

492
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Speaker 4: Or the one dwarf one dwarf and he's in the

493
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Speaker 4: front obviously, because if you were filming, you wouldn't be

494
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Speaker 4: able to see him if he was in any other spot, right,

495
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 4: it should be seven dwarfs, but instead it's just one.

496
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Speaker 4: But here's the lesson, And this is why I think

497
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Speaker 4: everyone's mad. I think it's why people are mad at

498
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Speaker 4: Rachel Ziegler. I think it's why people are mad at

499
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Speaker 4: snow White. I think it's why people are even mad

500
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Speaker 4: at that Little Mermaid movie, even though eighty percent of

501
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 4: the people mad at the Little Mermaid movie are probably racist,

502
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 4: but the other twenty percent, it's because stop pandering. Just

503
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: make something good. Don't try to figure out the political

504
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: angle that will sell more tick gets, because you're not

505
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: going to be able to predict what woke people and

506
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: anti woke people want. If you're pandering, we'll.

507
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Speaker 3: See it, will be annoyed.

508
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: But no, I think I think that decisions that have

509
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: been made to make things more inclusive have been good.

510
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: Where we see like people are complaining, like god, every

511
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: couple in a in every TV ad has to be

512
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: a mixed couple. Now, Like, I think that's good to

513
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: put those people. That is a choice that was made

514
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: to say we're not gonna just cast white people all

515
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Speaker 1: the time. If we're just lazy about things you were

516
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Speaker 1: You were citing something the other day, Brian, where you

517
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Speaker 1: were like all the people were white? What was that

518
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: you were talking about? And you were like today, can

519
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Speaker 1: you imagine? So that was all the people being white?

520
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was. I was watching School of Rock,

521
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Speaker 3: the Jack Black, Great Jack Black movie.

522
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: From two thousand and eighty oh three, Jesus okay.

523
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Speaker 3: Two thousand and three.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm watching this movie and and you know,

525
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Speaker 4: School of Rock has Jack Black, who's obviously a white man,

526
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Speaker 4: and then he has got his class and the class

527
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Speaker 4: was a diverse he's yeah, so it was it was

528
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 4: early representation of little people in cinema. There's also the

529
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Speaker 4: class which is actually pretty diverse, even though most of

530
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Speaker 4: the diverse classmates were like stereotyped in certain ways that

531
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Speaker 4: probably today would get a little bit of black, Like,

532
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: you know, the the Asian guy is nerdy like stuff

533
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Speaker 4: like that.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is he playing the violin? Why is the

535
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: black kid rapping?

536
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

537
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: The Asian I played the piano, which is and then like,

538
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: of course the amazing Sineer.

539
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Speaker 1: Instrument that is always being played in Canal Street, that

540
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Speaker 1: little string weird, like just so fucking stereotyped. Okay, go on.

541
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Speaker 3: So that was good.

542
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Speaker 4: But then I'm watching in every scene where there's supplementary characters,

543
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: In every single instance where there can be an extra

544
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Speaker 4: character who's not intrinsic to the plot, they are white,

545
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Speaker 4: a white man, so generally. So like at the beginning

546
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Speaker 4: of the movie, Uh, Jack Black gets kicked out of

547
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: his original band, and the band has four bandmates in it,

548
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: and out of those four, guess how many of them

549
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Speaker 4: were straight white men.

550
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Speaker 1: All I'm not going to guess.

551
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Speaker 4: I know, so that's all four of them are straight

552
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: white men. And it got to the point where I'm

553
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: so used to watching shows that aren't just all white

554
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: people that I was like, I can't tell these four

555
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: guys apart, Like they all.

556
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: Look like the same fucking guide to me.

557
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: It's actually confusing watching movies from the nineties sometimes because

558
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: you're like, is this all white?

559
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: This is the same guy?

560
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny.

561
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: And then like Jack Black has his teachers that are

562
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Speaker 4: at the school with him that he's substitute teaching at,

563
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: and they're at a lunch They're at a lunch team,

564
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: they're at the table and except for one guy out

565
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: of five teachers, all of them were white, four white guys,

566
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: one woman and then and then a non white guy.

567
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: And it's like, I can't believe how many of these

568
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: white guys are being cast. If this wasn't a movie today,

569
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Speaker 4: it would be like making a statement about like maybe

570
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: it's like, uh, you know, only rich people are like

571
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: the devil, Like this is Hell's lunch.

572
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Table, right if that if that was any white people,

573
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: which is a good thing.

574
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: But when that's a good thing, that's a good thing.

575
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm not.

576
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: It's a good thing. Well, it's bad for me personally.

577
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Speaker 1: See the amount of white men I've heard, and I

578
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't begrudge them, Like, and everyone's

579
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: always gonna there's gonna be a some group of people

580
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna miss out when there's things like affirmative action

581
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: or some kind of like mandate to put more people

582
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: of color in writers' rooms on TV, Like there's there's

583
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: gonna be white men and white women who are gonna

584
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: miss out. And I just say to them because you know,

585
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: as a white woman too, I kind of got successful

586
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: before it became like you can't have and I'm a woman.

587
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: So it's still kind of a minority, especially in the

588
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: comedy world, so I benefit from that too. But it

589
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: just it's like I say to white men, like they're

590
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: just like, man, it sucks right now, no one wants

591
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear it constantly white men saying it's

592
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: just not the time for us right now, and most

593
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: of them have that kind of attitude about it, like

594
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's not a good time for us,

595
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: because it is true, but being mad at it is true.

596
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: It's just like not the best time to be born

597
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: as a white man. And that's just the you know,

598
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: and the rest of the time, it was shitty to

599
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: be born a person of color trying to make it

600
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: in this business. So you know, you don't get everything

601
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: you want in life, I guess is the theme of

602
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: this that people just I think sometimes people just think

603
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: that but I want it, and you just go, well,

604
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: you just you don't get to have not everyone gets

605
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: everything they want, and sometimes that sucks.

606
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, would make So would you have made that

607
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: argument thirty years ago to a black person who's saying

608
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 4: that we can't get cats in anything?

609
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Yes, because that's the way the world is working, right,

610
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I'd say, I want to I would like it to

611
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: be different for you, but it's not, and this sucks.

612
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like, just accept it and don't like

613
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: fight against it, but sometimes you just do have to accept,

614
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: Like the way things are aren't fair. Some people are

615
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: born into money, some people aren't. Some people are born

616
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: with a talent, some people aren't. Like I was talking

617
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: to Well, this is a sticky situation that I should

618
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: probably leave for the Bonus pod, But we were talking

619
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: about trans people in sports, and I actually have a

620
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: very good explanation for it and why things should be

621
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Speaker 1: the way I think they should be. I'm gonna save

622
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: that for a time when it is not such a

623
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: a polarizing subject to get on. But I was talking

624
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: to my boyfriend the other day about it, and he

625
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: was on one side, I was on the other, and

626
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: then we came to the same side, and I came

627
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: up with like an air tight argument for it, and

628
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to share it with you guys offline.

629
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's pretty damn good. My point being maybe you

630
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: can get to it from me saying this. You don't

631
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: always get what you want, you know, Like Chris is

632
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: really good athletically, but he's not tall enough to play basketball.

633
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: At a level that he should. He could probably be

634
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: an amazing basketball player if he were born with a

635
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: different body, but he wasn't, so that sucks he can't

636
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: play basketball. Like if we're talking, I am the biggest

637
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: trans rights advocas that I know of. Personally, I'm the

638
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: one that's always I feel like I'm on the right

639
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: side of things. I have lots of trans friends. I

640
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: try to educate myself about stuff. But I do believe

641
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: like I wasn't born with the vocal cords that I

642
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: want to be a pop singer. I wasn't born with

643
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the agility to dance the way I would want you

644
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: to be a pop star. I wasn't born with the

645
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: parents that were like, we should get you in dance

646
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: classes and singing lessons and guitar lessons at the age

647
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: of seven, so you can be a pop star someday,

648
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: And some people were And that sucks. But it's I

649
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: could have maybe done it, but I didn't get to

650
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: because I wasn't born in the body of someone that's

651
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: good at dancing and singing. But inside me, I know

652
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: I could be It does this make sense at all?

653
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Speaker 1: Like time's gonna tell you you can? Yeah, I know,

654
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: but it's but yes, you can with enough training. But

655
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: like my boyfriend will never be in the NBA. I know,

656
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Muggsy Bogues was five eight or something, but Chris, because

657
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: of his height is kind of it's impossible for him

658
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: to be in the NBA at any time in his life.

659
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Would you agree Brian that, like you probably wanted to

660
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: be some story, you wanted to be a basketball player.

661
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: What stopped you from being the best basketball player possible?

662
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: But the best basketball player? I wasn't very I wasn't good.

663
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: So your body betrayed you right like your body you

664
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: were born into it. Because my friend the other day

665
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I love trans people and I totally

666
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: want them to have every right they want. But I

667
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: will never understand what it's like to be born in

668
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: a body that isn't the right body. I'll never understand that.

669
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: And I go, really, cause aren't you fat? Aren't you

670
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: a woman who struggled with her weight her whole I

671
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: say fat? She was, like, am I she identifies as

672
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: a fat person? She's not really now, but like she

673
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: is a person that has struggled with her weight her

674
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: whole life. And I go, how do you not understand,

675
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: and she was like, WHOA, I never thought of that.

676
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's all you gotta do. Have you ever

677
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: not liked your face? Have you ever not liked your hair?

678
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Have you ever not liked and thought, you know, why

679
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: does that girl have that hair? I should have been

680
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: born with that hair. I feel like I should have

681
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: been born with straight, silky hair or whatever it is.

682
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: You weren't. So you are you can empathize with trans people.

683
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: You wish that, you feel deep in your soul that

684
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: you should have been born with a different look or

685
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: a different body. That's how you get to that. So

686
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I just feel like we can all kind of relate

687
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: to that struggle. I don't know how I got to transdot,

688
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: but that's how I feel about that.

689
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: People go, I don't.

690
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Understand what this could be. I'll respect it, but I

691
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: don't get it. Oh so you were just unless you're

692
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: fucking Giselle Bunchin. She's the only person on the planet

693
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: that should be like I don't get wanting to be

694
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: born in a different body because everything on her is perfect.

695
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: She's the only one that should have no trans empathy.

696
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure she does.

697
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: She even had a nose job.

698
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go. She had an operation for

699
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: her outside to match her inside. So anyone that's a

700
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: new thing. Anyone who's had any corrective braces or a

701
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: nose job or a brow lift, you're not allowed to.

702
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Not like trans people, you did the same thing they

703
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: did of switching your outside to match your inside. Boom

704
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: case closed.

705
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: What about people who just want tattoo.

706
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean they Yeah, I would say that too. You

707
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: you body modified to match your inside something, and you

708
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: wanted this tattoo. I really regret not getting a tattoo.

709
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: I fucking so regret it in my youth time. You

710
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: can still do that, Yeah, I can, and I probably

711
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: will because I.

712
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: Swift in like a gothic front really big across your chest.

713
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: No, because that's gonna be it's gonna start melting, you know,

714
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: like yeah, and that's an area that like, I don't

715
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: want anyone looking at my decoltage. That's getting spotty.

716
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: And just you get ahead of it and you just

717
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: tattoo old swifty.

718
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Because no one wants to see an old woman's chest.

719
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: No offense to old women out there showing their chest.

720
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: That's not something I'll want to show off. Not that

721
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, there is a girl I know that has

722
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: born in two thousand tattooed on the back of her

723
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: like right below her butt cheeks, right born in and

724
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: then or made in and then two thousand, the year

725
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: two thousand, and I'm like, that is so cool right

726
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: now because it shows everyone you're so fucking young. But

727
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: you are going to be hi. You're going to have

728
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: that number adapted at the end pretty soon, Like what

729
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: year does she start covering that up? But it isn't

730
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: a place on her body where she won't be showing

731
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: that region off when she is ashamed of that number.

732
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: So I guess it's the perfect place to put it

733
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: because right now you see it all the time. Yeah, well,

734
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: it makes sense because it's in the place that you

735
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: show when you're in your twenties. But it is She's

736
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: going to start wearing shorts that go less short pretty

737
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: soon and then you won't see it. But yeah, that's

738
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 1: but I regret not getting one because I like having

739
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: memories on my body of like things that happen in

740
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: my life, Like I have this fucking curling iron burn

741
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: that will always remember me remind me of being backstage

742
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: in Europe, of the Europe trip. And then I have

743
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: this scar from the Dead Sea that will never go away,

744
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: and it reminded me of walking into the Dead Sea.

745
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: And I have different scars. I have a scratch on

746
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: my face that my sister scratched me on the face

747
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: when we were fighting as a kid, and it reminds

748
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: me of like hating her that day. I have a

749
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: I have another scratch on my finger on my thumb

750
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: from a trash can the first day that I ever

751
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: did live radio in Kansas City. I remember, I was like, oh,

752
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: I'll always remember that this scar is from the first

753
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: time I ever went on radio, which is a big

754
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: deal in my life. I like having little little reminders

755
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: even of like things that are embarrassing earlier. On that day,

756
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: I just was throwing something away and there was like

757
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: a little piece of metal sticking out of it and

758
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: it just scratched it, and I just gotta imagine, Oh,

759
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: my god, thank you.

760
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do want to say sorry, what well, just

761
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: just to finish, just to wrap up what I was

762
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: saying before. And also speaking of tattoos. When I was

763
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: watching Schindler's List, there's two characters in Schindler's List. Two

764
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: main characters. There's Liam Neeson and there's Ralph Findes. Did

765
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 4: he say his name?

766
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: Fine?

767
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: Raife's Ralph?

768
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's spelled Ralph, but it's

769
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: pronounced ray Finds.

770
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 4: Okay, I think I thought there was another guy named

771
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: Ray Finds that and so, and then Ralph Finds is

772
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: a different guy.

773
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? Anyway?

774
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: I saw these two guys in Schindler's list, and when

775
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 4: I they're.

776
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: Both white guys.

777
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: And when I and you start off with Schindler, who

778
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: was played by Liam Neeson, and then eventually you see

779
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: Ray Fines Raith Finds. And when I saw Ray Fines,

780
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: I was like, why is Oscar Schindler wearing a Nazi

781
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: uniform or whatever? Because I thought they were the same

782
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: guy for like the first forty five minutes of.

783
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: The Yeah, they look so similar.

784
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: Right, not only are they white guys, but they look similar.

785
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: And it's like, only in the nineties would you be

786
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: able to do casting like this.

787
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Well, also as a period piece that is about white people,

788
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: you can't kiss a black person as shit, learn right. Yeah.

789
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: I went to a play once on Broadway and it

790
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: was like some old play that you like don't fuck

791
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: with right, Like, I don't know some maybe it was.

792
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't Glen Garry Glen Ross, but it was a

793
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: classic old Broadway play and they they they did it updated.

794
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: So the married couple in the fifties was it was

795
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: like they were both white and then their black son

796
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: came home from Vietnam, and then they're like trans child

797
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: came home, and then they're like Asian child came home.

798
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: And the audience was free. It was all old people

799
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: and they were so fucking confused. But it was just

800
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 2: like modern casting. It was just something that people were wait.

801
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Glengary Glenn Rosse. Isn't that the movie where Alec Baldwin

802
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: like screams in a Yes.

803
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: It wasn't Glengarry Glenn Russ. But it was an old

804
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: play that was set in the fifties and all the old.

805
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: People were like, how can his shun me black? What is?

806
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: And it was like they're just doing this for casting,

807
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: They're just doing this for representation, to challenge us.

808
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Well, I think it is confusing, but redoing they're.

809
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: Redoing twelve Angry Men. It's called twelve Angry people.

810
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: That's true.

811
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: I could see that happening, but we'll see.

812
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't.

813
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

814
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: I guess I just I don't care because I'm not

815
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: an actress. I guess it would bother me if as

816
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: a white person to be like, oh, it's it's tough

817
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: out there right now, but you know it's there's It's

818
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: still when I do a comedy show, there's like maybe

819
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: one other girl on the on the the lineup. There's

820
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: not as many women doing stand up comedy as I

821
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: thought there would be. Can I just say that I

822
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: thought there was like a boom I felt with Sarah Silverman.

823
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: She got a lot of us into it. It's like

824
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: my entire class of female comics that you know of

825
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: now we're all inspired by Sarah. There's Janine. There's a

826
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: class of Janine Garoffalos. There's a class of people that

827
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: were inspired by Well. Then that's pretty much it, but

828
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: Schumer and then me. But it's still not a lot.

829
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: Like I was complaining to my friend who owns the club,

830
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: I go, when are you gonna have some women on

831
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: your show? Because I see clips of like who performs

832
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: there and there's like no women, And I'm like, this

833
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: place is making a choice not to put women up,

834
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: and he goes, there's no women doing comedy in town,

835
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: like we put them up, and I don't want you

836
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: to just put up any woman. This is the problem,

837
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: is like sometime any of them we need, Yeah, like

838
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: because you gotta be good at comedy. And this is

839
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: the problem is why a lot of times, because there's

840
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: so few women, comedy clubs will do the right thing

841
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: and put women up, and they're not good because they'll

842
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: just take anyone. Oh, she's been doing comedy for two days,

843
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: but she's a comic, so let's put her up. And

844
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: then audiences see this woman on a show with a

845
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: bunch of other dudes who are well ahead of her

846
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: based on the amount of time they've been doing it.

847
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: And they're men, so they're naturally funnier. That was a

848
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: joke I'm seeing if you're listening. And then she does poorly,

849
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: and then what does the audience think when they leave?

850
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: Women aren't funny because they're putting her on the same

851
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: level as all the men they just saw. So it's

852
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: it's this weird thing of like, don't put women up

853
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: before they're ready, but also like why aren't women doing

854
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: more comedy? I still don't get it. I still maintain

855
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: that women aren't encouraged to be funny as youths because

856
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: women are supposed to be dainty and delicate and pretty

857
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: and clean and cute and boys humor is all rooted

858
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: in farts and dirt and frogs and poop and like

859
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: those are the favorite words of every kid. Based on

860
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: my niece and nephew, I've just found it here, you

861
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: loved it, and now all the girls are I think

862
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: joke about that.

863
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: Stuff open mics and early and road clubs.

864
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: That's still a boys club.

865
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: I mean you you if you're a woman starting out

866
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: doing comedy and you're going to open mics, I mean,

867
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: there's gonna be eighty percent ninety percent men at these

868
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: open mics, and there most of them are probably don't

869
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: feel very welcome and are not treated well for it.

870
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: No sorry, I mean I listen. I don't want to

871
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: say get over it. That's that's going to be clipped

872
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: and it's going to be like, she doesn't understand we

873
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: all get raped every day. But that was my favorite

874
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Schumer joke used to be like people always ask me

875
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: what's the hardest part about being a female stand up?

876
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: And I always tell them the rape.

877
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: And it's.

878
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: It's I don't I never had a hard time as

879
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: a woman because I had no other experience doing comedy,

880
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: so I can't compare it to what it would be

881
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: like to be a man. There's one comedian I met

882
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: who's one of the most famous comedians working who when

883
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: I went up to him as he was talking to

884
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of young comedian boys and having a grand

885
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: old time, I walked up. I was the headliner of

886
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: the club. He was just in town hanging out because

887
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: he had done like a huge theater down the street,

888
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and I was at the club and he came in

889
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: to watch my headlining set. So after my set, I

890
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: go to my green room and then I come back

891
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: down to the bar where he's like holding court with

892
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: all these young comic guys that are just like hanging

893
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: on his every word because he is arguably one of

894
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: the goats of comedy. And I walked up and they

895
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: were continuing to talk about whatever they were talking about,

896
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: and one of them said like fuck or something, and

897
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, hey, not around the lady. He like

898
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: quieted the guy, and I'm like, did you just hear

899
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: my act? So all of a sudden, it was like

900
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: he couldn't. The dynamic completely changed and we weren't allowed

901
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: to talk dirty anymore. We weren't allowed to talk like boys.

902
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: We had to talk like everyone just got awkward because

903
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: I was there, and so I excuse myself because I

904
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to ruin this fun whiskey

905
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: drinking time with the guys. That was like, I've been

906
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: very lucky.

907
00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: Then.

908
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: That was like the only time where I felt like, Wow,

909
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: no one wants me around because I'm a girl. Otherwise,

910
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: being the only girl on a comedy scene was pretty

911
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: nice and I didn't get pawed at. I wasn't like

912
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: sexual like maybe I was sexualized like when I wasn't around,

913
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen in front of me that often.

914
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: There was a gross club owner who used to be like,

915
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: say I was hot and then say gross things, but

916
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: I just kind of like it wasn't I wasn't like

917
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: scared to I don't know, I just kind of don't

918
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: buy into this whole thing of like it's a boys

919
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: club and we're not allowed. But maybe female comics need

920
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: to write to me and enlighten me of what they're

921
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: dealing with now, because it's might have changed, it might

922
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: have gotten worse, or I might have just which is

923
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: what I say all the time about why I've never

924
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: been in a relationship where I got hit, Why I've

925
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: never been molested. It's not because I was like faster

926
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: than you or I picked better people than you, Like

927
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: I just got lucky. So I could have just always

928
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: been hanging around certain comedy clubs where I just got lucky,

929
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, like I walked down alleyways where I didn't

930
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: get raped. But then I would be like, alleyways are fine.

931
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you just picked a good one on

932
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: a good night, the night you could have been raped

933
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: on that.

934
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: Injustices though that happened, that are maybe more uh invisible,

935
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: Like what you just described is an injustice. Like let's

936
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: not talk, you know, let's let's be different around.

937
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: Yea, but who fucking who? Like Also, what about how.

938
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: Much you were paid?

939
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: Do you know if you were paid equally?

940
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: No, but I'm getting paid fucking more than anyone now,

941
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: like it just I don't know, I wasn't we're all

942
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: paid in equally. Is anyone really transparent about pay? I'm

943
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: sure I got slighted on things, but I will say

944
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: that being a funny woman, I'm not in the I'm

945
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I know this is not going to be popular with

946
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: female comics who are struggling to make it and like

947
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: to lean on the fact that they're a woman is

948
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: the reason they're not successful, whereas I would say it's

949
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: probably a mixture of that and the fact that you're

950
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: not maybe not as funny as other women or other men,

951
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: and that's just because you weren't born with being funny

952
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: enough or like, it's not like your fault, it's not

953
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: like your bad person. But I think that it's so

954
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: quick to be like I've seen so many female comics

955
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: claim because I'm a woman, and I'm like, but I

956
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: haven't laughed at anything you've ever said. Can we talk

957
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: about that? But you can't talk about that because it

958
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: has to be blamed on this as a boys club,

959
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: which it is, by the way, there's no doubt about it.

960
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: But I would like to say that I think I've

961
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: benefited from being a woman. When I get asked these

962
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: questions about how hard is it to be a female comic,

963
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm the only one in the scene,

964
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: so and everyone thinks female comics are shit so if

965
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: you're kind of funny, people are like, wow, oh holy fuck,

966
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: let's headline her before she's ready. Like, I think I've

967
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: been afforded opportunities that I know I have. I got

968
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: asked to be on Last Comic Standing when I was

969
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: two years into comedy. Did I deserve that? Fuck?

970
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 4: No?

971
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: Did I get it because I was a girl? Yes?

972
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: So if I I were female comic listening to this,

973
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I'd be pissed at me. Probably, So I understand your

974
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: ire if it's directed towards me. Well, you're not saying

975
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: probably this is all feel my luck. No, it's definitely not.

976
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I've had advantages for being a woman,

977
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: and I've had disadvantages, And the bottom line is, it's

978
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: just it's not fair. Not everything is fair. Why does

979
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: everything have to be fair? Like life isn't fair? Like

980
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: it's not fair that I had good parents that were like,

981
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: you should try comedy. We'll give you money to pay

982
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: your rent while you pursue this dream. That isn't fair

983
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: to someone who's like I have to work three jobs

984
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: to even be able to afford to do open mics

985
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: at night. It's not because you can't be mad at me.

986
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: If you were born with my family, that would be

987
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: your lot too. It's just I got born in a

988
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: different body, with a different family. It's just everything's not fair.

989
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't hear you and go, okay,

990
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: let's create a fun for struggling comics. Or that doesn't

991
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: mean that I don't pay my openers a little bit

992
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: extra when I know that they'd come from a family

993
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: like that, Like, we have to account for those things.

994
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: But life isn't fair. And believe me, I cry about

995
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: it all the time. I have my things that I'm like,

996
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: why wasn't I born with that thing? I'm plagued by

997
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: why does she get that? Why does he get that?

998
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: And I don't? And the bottom line is is because

999
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: life isn't fair, and not everyone gets everything they want

1000
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: except Rachel Ziggler, and even she's getting taken it away

1001
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: right now. But I bet that girl did not come

1002
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: up against a lot of you know, like, oh, this weekend, okay,

1003
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: we have to go to break. But I have an actual,

1004
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: perfect example of this.

1005
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.

1006
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: This weekend. I was watching a clip of I guess

1007
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: the casting director of American Horror Story or something like that,

1008
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: and it popped up on my Instagram and he was

1009
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: talking about Margot Robbie auditioning for American Horror Story. I

1010
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: guess before we knew her as Margot Robbie. I guess

1011
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: that show's been on forever. And he said she had

1012
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: the best audition he'd ever seen, but she didn't get cast. Okay,

1013
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: hold on, let's go back. Do you think he'd be

1014
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: talking about this random girl who auditioned in two thousand

1015
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: and seven she wasn't Margot Robbie now, And do you

1016
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: think he'd be just wistfully talking about how she had

1017
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: the best audition he's ever seen, and he thought, we

1018
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: don't have a place for her, but she needs to

1019
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: find a place somewhere in this world. No, this is

1020
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: all things you think retrospectively, because you know you missed

1021
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: out on having someone who is the biggest star in

1022
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: the world right now in the biggest money making movie

1023
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers has ever made, and you're embarrassed you didn't

1024
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: cast her. But you also want to be a part

1025
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: of her narrative. You want to put your name in there.

1026
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: She's a part of the American Horror Story story. You know,

1027
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: and yes. And also it made me happy because Margot

1028
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Robbie had a bad day once. Margot Robbie got so

1029
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: close on her role. You guys, a thing she wanted

1030
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: so badly, a thing we can all relate to. A

1031
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: guy want a job, you want a dog, you think

1032
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a fucking house's apartment, you think you're

1033
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: gonna get and it got She got a call one day.

1034
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: Margot rob was like, yes, oh really, okay, yo, that's okay,

1035
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: all right, thank you so much. And then she put

1036
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: on the phone and she cried. Margot Robbie one day

1037
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: had a bad day, and that made me feel so good.

1038
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: She hasn't gotten everything in light that she's wanted. We

1039
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: all don't get everything we want. But then someone will

1040
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: spend the story later on to make you feel better

1041
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: about the thing you lost out on if you end

1042
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: up being a huge superstar, because now she can be like, oh,

1043
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: they thought I was the best actress in the world.

1044
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: Guaranteed they didn't say that to her in the room.

1045
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: Guaranteed she got no feedback on it. Besides the fact

1046
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: that she didn't get it, or she probably never even

1047
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: heard she didn't get it, she probably just saw the

1048
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: TV show that she auditioned for and someone else was

1049
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: in the role that she thought she was gonna get

1050
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: and was still waiting to hear back on, which is

1051
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: how most people find out in this town that they

1052
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: didn't get something.

1053
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: There should be a website called bad days dot com

1054
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: or a book called bad Days where you just have successful.

1055
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: People Tom Brady.

1056
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like telling a story about how they failed

1057
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: or what went wrong to make people like it could

1058
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: be a tumbler.

1059
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Even what's the worst news you guys have ever gotten

1060
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: career wise?

1061
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: Career wise? I mean, my career is the string of

1062
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: bad news.

1063
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so last week, Brian, last week.

1064
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1065
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 4: I mean I I definitely had both of my reps

1066
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: retired and randomly at a young age. There's plenty of

1067
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 4: stuff that I pitched and I didn't get at. Yeah,

1068
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: there's shows that I didn't get. There's festivals I was

1069
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 4: rejected to, people said I wasn't funny.

1070
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 3: There's all sorts of things. I mean, it's like every

1071
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: day and then just bombing.

1072
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: You know, it's constant bombing on stage, and you know

1073
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: everyone's telling me to quit comedy, and I don't derstand

1074
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: why you're still trying?

1075
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: And now, who's everyone a lie?

1076
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: Because I'm exaggerating a little bit. No, No, but it is.

1077
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: I mean like, I feel like I have.

1078
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: Failed much more than I've succeeded, but my successes have

1079
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: But I just keep trying because I'm a straight white man,

1080
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: and I feel like i'd.

1081
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: Be nervous.

1082
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: Mine have been. I thought I was going to get

1083
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: a Kevin Smith's show that I was going to be

1084
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: a co host on. I was one of like three

1085
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: girls considered for it, and I was like, you know,

1086
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was going to happen. I signed

1087
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: a contract that in the first year of making this

1088
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: show that would be a syndicated show on all like channels.

1089
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: This was in two thousand and ten or eleven. It

1090
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: was going to be a half a million dollars in

1091
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: one year. And at the time, I didn't even own

1092
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: a computer. I couldn't I couldn't get a laptop because

1093
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: I had no money. And I was like, this is

1094
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: going to change my life. And I got wasted the

1095
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: night before the audition because I was so nervous and

1096
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: because I was hanging out with a boy I really like,

1097
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to keep hanging out with them.

1098
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: So I got fucking wasted. I woke up the next

1099
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: day I had no voice. I did this audition, which

1100
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: was an hour long podcast taping audition, and I bombed

1101
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: because I literally like sounded like this, like I had

1102
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: no books because I was like drinking the night before,

1103
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: like terrible. So I look back on that though, and

1104
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, thank god that happened. I submitted so many

1105
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: packets to write for the Jimmy Fallon Show and would

1106
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: write these amazing packets and go, there's no way I'm

1107
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: not going to get this. These jokes are some of

1108
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: the best jokes I've ever written or ever seen written.

1109
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm like so proud of myself and didn't get that job.

1110
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: Thank fucking crist I didn't get a writing job. I'm

1111
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: so great. Shout out to people who do writing jobs,

1112
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I would have. I would have

1113
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: festered away inside a writer's room. I would have gotten

1114
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: stuck there. If I would have been good at it,

1115
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I would have been stuck there. I'd still be there

1116
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: and it would be a great job and I'd have

1117
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: lots of money. But I would feel very unpathific because

1118
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that I could be fulfilled

1119
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: writing jokes for people and possibly having them say it

1120
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: the wrong way that I wanted them to say it,

1121
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: which you know, Brian writes jokes for me a lot

1122
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: of times, and I can only imagine, like when you

1123
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: write a joke and I just like fuck up the delivery,

1124
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: Like what a crushing blow that is, Like I couldn't

1125
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: handle that. So I'm so glad I didn't get that job.

1126
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: And then there I have It's it's oh, there was

1127
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: something just recently that I really wanted so badly and

1128
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: it didn't.

1129
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh.

1130
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: I was going to host f Boy Island in Australia.

1131
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: We had drawn up the contracts. I was going to

1132
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: go to Australia to live for like two months and

1133
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: shoot this show, to live in Australia for two months

1134
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: and to have a presence down there, which may make

1135
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: it so I could live there someday and like make money,

1136
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, hosting something. You know, Chris loves Australia. We

1137
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: both have friends there. I was like, oh, I could

1138
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: like retire in Australia if I kick off my career there.

1139
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: And everything was set to go, and the last second

1140
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: they were like they went with an Aussie to host

1141
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: it and it was such a bummer. And that was

1142
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: a recent one, and there's been other things too recently

1143
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: that just fall through, and you know, it's just you

1144
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: don't get everything you want. And men, the amount of

1145
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: men I have liked that didn't like.

1146
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: Me back.

1147
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: Is innumerable. You guys, infinitely, so many guys. Chris is

1148
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: one success story of a guy that I loved desperately

1149
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: that ended up working out. But there was most of

1150
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: the time I did not get the right man that

1151
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: I wanted. Me moving in with my parents during COVID embarrassing,

1152
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five, Why don't I have anywhere else to go? Like,

1153
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: there's just there's been so many I've recently gained five pounds.

1154
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: I am very upset about it because I am currently

1155
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of making something where the whole wardrobe

1156
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: was set five pounds ago and things were tailored to

1157
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: my body five pounds ago. And I know five pounds

1158
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot, but it is when everything

1159
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: you're wearing is skin tight and then you put it

1160
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: on and it doesn't fit, and now we have to

1161
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: make we have to the other day, she was like

1162
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: you're wearing this tonight, and I go, the fuck I

1163
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: am That's something I'm supposed to wear when I'm dehydrated

1164
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: for three days, Like, I'm not wearing that tonight. And

1165
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: we had just scrambled to find something else because my

1166
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: body was not you know, playing, it was not playing

1167
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: along that day. It's betraying me lately. So we just

1168
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: sometimes you just don't get what you want and it sucks. Anya.

1169
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: I was on the short list after two callbacks for

1170
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: the Ellen DeGeneres show. I was going to be her sidekick,

1171
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: and I was down to me and three other guys,

1172
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: and oh my god, I was in many and I

1173
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: was actually not devastated.

1174
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was before I knew a bullet you

1175
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: dodged there.

1176
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: I know.

1177
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been good for your career,

1178
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: but we all know what happened to the person that

1179
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: did get that job. Rest in peace. So maybe not

1180
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: the best mental thing, not saying that that contributed to

1181
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: it at all, but also we also know about that

1182
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: workplace environment. Yeah, maybe not the best.

1183
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: I remember knowing like, I'll be fine if I don't

1184
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: get this, But the money was I don't even remember

1185
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: if the money was crazy because I was like an unknown.

1186
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember thinking like this would be huge

1187
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: if I was on TV like four or five days

1188
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: a week or whatever it is. But I remember not

1189
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: really wanting it. So when I when I like, I

1190
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: was like, I don't think I'm qualified like they wanted

1191
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: me to be.

1192
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: You would be like over there, like acting like you

1193
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: were like pressing the music and like what up, Ballan,

1194
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: did you do what?

1195
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 4: They?

1196
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: Would you do a thing with her? A chemistry test?

1197
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: Not a chemistry test. No, it was just down to

1198
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: four of us and then the next round was going

1199
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: to be that I think, but they were like, gotch,

1200
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: we love you. We think it sounds like you're like

1201
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: on the verge of really killing it in music, and

1202
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: we like, we'd almost want you to be like a

1203
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: writer on the show because you're so funny and you're personable.

1204
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: But I was very open with them.

1205
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not a DJ, Like I'm a radio DJ,

1206
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a spin like this, we.

1207
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: Don't need you to do this is a track that

1208
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: you're pressing play honey, I know, but it didn't work out,

1209
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: But I was kind of crushed. I was like a

1210
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: finalist on this God this was oh well.

1211
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: One of my major blows was when my record label

1212
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: started to go under and like let go of their artists,

1213
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: and I kind of knew that I shouldn't take it personally,

1214
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: but it was so crushing because it was just such

1215
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: a great place to be because they were single handedly

1216
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: responsible for getting my songs in so many films and

1217
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: TV shows, So I knew that that change, even though

1218
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: it had to happen for that label, I was just like, ah,

1219
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: this is going to be harder to really get out there.

1220
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: My manager left me, which was fine in the moment,

1221
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: but I remember just being later on like this sucks,

1222
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: like having to find a new manager as hard and

1223
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: I have not. I've just been managing myself. There was

1224
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: some dumb kit Kat commercial. I was like, not going

1225
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: to ever release this song, but I tried multiple times

1226
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: and they were like, we love it and there's always

1227
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: such great money and ads, and I probably really needed

1228
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: it at the time, and it was just like so

1229
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: devastating that I didn't get I was like, God, damn it.

1230
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: But now I look back on all those things and

1231
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm like thank God, Like I wouldn't want any of

1232
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: those things.

1233
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: Maybe the label it's interesting that you guys are both

1234
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 4: like thank God, because I definitely am full of regret

1235
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: that I am not thank goding for. But I do

1236
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: want to I do want to respond to you know,

1237
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: the writing jokes. It's like, I love writing for other people.

1238
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: And because I don't want to be on camera delivering

1239
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: the stuff, I don't want to be the star. I'd

1240
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: much rather give somebody material and then watch them succeed

1241
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: with that material, and I'll take pride.

1242
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: But you weren't always like that. We've talked about this.

1243
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: You weren't always like that, right, Well, yeah.

1244
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 4: Back in like high school and college, I was different.

1245
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's two there are two instances that spring

1246
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: to mind that I am full of regret at over

1247
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 4: and not. They're a bad thing happened, and I'm not

1248
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 4: saying thank God about it. I am saying, well, it's

1249
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 4: a different feeling to be like, well, that was a mistake.

1250
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: I know it was a mistake.

1251
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 4: I fucked up, and now I just have to come

1252
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 4: to terms with that because I still really would have

1253
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 4: wanted that thing.

1254
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: So one of them was twenty fourteen.

1255
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: I was I was submitting packets, like hundreds of packets,

1256
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 4: and I submitted a packet to The Daily Show, and

1257
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: this would be the first year that Trevor Noah was

1258
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 4: hosting the Daily Show, and I was that this was

1259
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: my dream job to write for the Daily Show.

1260
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: I had been writing political material.

1261
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: I had a political sketch show that was running weekly

1262
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 4: at an improv theater in New York. And I had

1263
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 4: a political blog where I would just like write satirical articles.

1264
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: It was called Nothing as Good dot com and I'd

1265
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: write satirical political articles. And so I was just prepping

1266
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: for the Daily Show for like the last like four

1267
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: or five years, and I finally got to smitted packet.

1268
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: Packets are blind submissions, and.

1269
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 4: Somehow my packet got accepted, and now I was brought

1270
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: into the second round. So the first round there's probably

1271
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: like over a thousand submissions, and then the second round

1272
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 4: is probably narrowed down to like fifty. The second round

1273
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: is like a twenty four hour period where you have

1274
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: to turn around a second packet in like twenty four

1275
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 4: hours based on current events that are happening that day.

1276
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: I turned around the packet, I submitted it, and I

1277
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: got called in for an interview. I learned that it

1278
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: was down to two people, me and another guy and

1279
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: the other guy is a guy I happened to know

1280
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: who is now my arch nemesis.

1281
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: But I.

1282
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: Went for many reasons. But I think I already told

1283
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: this story on the show.

1284
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: But I did the interview, and you know, Trevor Now

1285
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: and all the EPs were there and they said, you know,

1286
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 4: it's a thousand submissions and it's just you and another guy.

1287
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my god, and uh, I

1288
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 4: just had a bad interview and they didn't take me.

1289
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: And I wasn't what did you do during the interview?

1290
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: Why was it bab were you yourself? I could see

1291
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: them being like, this is done. It was a thousand

1292
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: and that it was on to two and you're you

1293
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: eat this is Brian.

1294
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

1295
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: Like they they wanted you to go like, oh my god,

1296
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: and you were just like cool and they're like, you know,

1297
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: this guy's look doesn't seem exciting, like that.

1298
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 4: Final thought, Yeah, I mean something like that. I mean,

1299
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm a hat to say so,

1300
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 4: like maybe that's for intrusive thoughts. It's like why did

1301
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: I not get this job? But I know why I

1302
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 4: didn't get the job. I was told later, many years later,

1303
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 4: why I didn't get it.

1304
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: I didn't get the job, and I.

1305
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: Was like it he said, oh, the person who got

1306
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 4: the job like wasn't a stand up and didn't really

1307
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: write anything before, and uh, like, I just didn't understand

1308
01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: how it was even possible.

1309
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 3: And it sattered my conception of.

1310
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 4: Like comedy and like actually doing hard work because I

1311
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: had been working towards this goal for five full years,

1312
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 4: doing all the things you need to do. I did

1313
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 4: stand up, I did the political blog, I did a

1314
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 4: political sketch show. I got the interview, like, I got

1315
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: past the threshold and then I went in for the

1316
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 4: interview and it didn't matter and I didn't get it

1317
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: and I never had a chance to get it again.

1318
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: And were you wearing your fanny pack?

1319
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: No, that was a pre Fanni pack crying.

1320
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: Okay, what it did wind up doing is I wound

1321
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 4: up switching away from politics and I started making cartoons

1322
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 4: after that point. So for that instance, it was good,

1323
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: but I was like, my whole conception of comedy was

1324
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: shattered at that point. So cut to the future, another

1325
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 4: job interview. There is a show called Lower Decks, which

1326
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: is an animated Star Trek show that was created by

1327
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: the people who made Rickard Morty, and it's an animated show.

1328
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 4: It already came out. I think it's already been canceled.

1329
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure. But this was a

1330
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 4: huge deal for me because now I'm in, like, I'm

1331
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: trying to make cartoons. That was but I had been

1332
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: doing for the last now eight years, longer than I

1333
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: had been trying to do politics. I had been doing

1334
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 4: cartoon stuff and this was the people who made Rick

1335
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: and Morty like the best cartoon ever made, and.

1336
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: I was getting to maybe enter into that world.

1337
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 4: It was a Star Trek spinoff, and I did my

1338
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: first interview with the Rick and Morty people and they

1339
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 4: really liked me, and I was like, oh, this is great.

1340
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: And they had me come in for a second interview

1341
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 4: with the Star Trek people, and for some dumb fucking reason, Okay,

1342
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck I was thinking, the

1343
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: Star Trek people asked me, so, what is your favorite

1344
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: Star Trek movie or show? And I said, well, you know,

1345
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 4: I watched First Contact with my dad, and my dad

1346
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: watched The Next Generation a lot, But to be honest,

1347
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: like I haven't seen a lot of Star Trek.

1348
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: Is that true, that's true. I haven't seen a lot

1349
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 3: of Star Trek.

1350
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 4: I was being honest, but like they were like, Okay,

1351
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 4: you know this is a Star Trek series in the

1352
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 4: Star Trek.

1353
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: You like binge Star Trek before going into this, because.

1354
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: It's impossible because there is thousands and thousands of hours.

1355
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: Fuck cares. Why were they mad about that?

1356
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: Like, because it's a Star Trek show.

1357
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: I had to star set in the Star Trek universe,

1358
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: and I.

1359
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: Was supposed to be writing some that was gonna be

1360
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: like listenable outside of the narrative of Twilight. He has

1361
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: to write for a Star Trek show.

1362
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got really awkward after that.

1363
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: You could catch up.

1364
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: I got really awkward after that.

1365
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: I fucked up the interview after that, and I said,

1366
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: but I but I swear if I get this job,

1367
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 4: I will sit down and I will watch every Star

1368
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 4: Trek there is. And they said, I don't think you're

1369
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 4: gonna have time for that. And so I didn't get

1370
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 4: that job either, And I was just like, I was like,

1371
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 4: why was I Why didn't I Just because.

1372
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: You're an honest guy and it's good not to lie.

1373
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's there's I told, uh, Francis Ford

1374
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: Coppola that I had never seen what was the movie

1375
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: that he wanted me to do during my audition? And

1376
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: I go, oh, Hamlet, that I had never seen Hamlet

1377
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: or heard of it, or like, I've heard of it,

1378
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what. He was like, do this

1379
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: do this speech in the style of Hamlet, and I go,

1380
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. And he's like, well,

1381
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: you're at the grave of you're talking to someone who died.

1382
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, then, why didn't you just

1383
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: say that? Like so, I also had to be honest,

1384
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: and i'd never seen any of the Godfathers. I didn't

1385
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: tell him that, but I hadn't, and I was ready

1386
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: to be honest about that if I hadn't, because that

1387
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: should be if that matters to them. Like when I

1388
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: meet someone and they're like, I'm sorry, I haven't seen

1389
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: if I brought it someone in for an interview to

1390
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 1: work on a show that I was doing, and they said,

1391
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: and I go, and someone I would never ask this,

1392
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: but if someone asked, what are you familiar with of

1393
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: Nicky's and they said, I watched you know, Perfect with

1394
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: my dad, and then I've seen a little bit of

1395
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: bang In just from clips, But honest, I haven't seen

1396
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: but I will watch everything if I get the job.

1397
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that because I don't think everyone

1398
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: should see everything that I did.

1399
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: This is a different monster.

1400
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 4: This is like there are there are Trekky's who will

1401
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: annihilate you if you get something wrong. This is a

1402
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 4: whole universe that I was trying, Like, I'm trying to

1403
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: enter into this universe.

1404
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: So you knew going into this? Had you when you

1405
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: parked your car that day to go in there? Did

1406
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: you have in your mind they're gonna ask me about

1407
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: my knowledge of Star trek Let me just be honest

1408
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: with them. Did you have a plan going in or

1409
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: did the do re hoping that question would come up?

1410
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: Like did you plan to tell them the truth?

1411
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 4: I was dealing with my new car problem that I

1412
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 4: was having where I couldn't think really, and so I

1413
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 4: was I was already going in on a If you.

1414
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: Guys don't know, Brian had a new car that had

1415
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: a weird smell going on in it and it was.

1416
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: Getting him what it was just a regular new car smell.

1417
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So Brian was having anxieties in his life that

1418
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: his body took and made into smells all randomly.

1419
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,480
Speaker 3: Sensitivity.

1420
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called multiple chemical sensitivities. So if you're someone

1421
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: out there who if you smell certain things and they

1422
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: give you insane migraines and you can't function, you can't

1423
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: like leave your house anymore because someone might be like

1424
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: doing their laundry and you might smell it and it

1425
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: will give you a was it migraine? What other stuff

1426
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: did you get from it?

1427
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 3: Brain fog?

1428
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 4: Mostly, it was like brain fog and fatigue and depression

1429
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 4: and just like, yeah, if I like smelled a dryer exhaust, like,

1430
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 4: I like there was a time when I came became

1431
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: so sensitive to it that I could tell whenever somebody

1432
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 4: in my neighborhood was doing laundry right like blocks away, I'd.

1433
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: Be like, somebody in this town is drying something.

1434
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: And it turned out it was all in his head,

1435
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: not in a way that he's crazy, but like that's

1436
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: where his anxiety decided to put itself so that it

1437
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: would like have a reason for being. So Brian was

1438
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: on this mad hunt to like eliminate these smells from

1439
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 1: his life, avoid these smells, and it made him a

1440
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: wreck less and it made his life fucking unmanageable and miserable,

1441
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: and the whole time it was really about anxiety.

1442
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 4: And then how did you treat it, Brian, Well, there's

1443
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 4: a there's a What finally wound up curing it was

1444
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 4: I did a DNRS, which is the dynamic neural retraining system,

1445
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 4: which is the only thing that actually helped, which is

1446
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 4: very similar to doctor Starno's philosophy of TMS.

1447
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: But this is exactly when I was doing.

1448
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: I was at the peak of my multiple chemical sensitivities

1449
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 4: when I was going in for this Lower Decks interview

1450
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: and I was drove the new car there.

1451
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't think people who would make Star Trek stuff

1452
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: don't do their laundry.

1453
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 4: I was, so I was already feeling like, I can't

1454
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 4: think this is going to be bad, but I need

1455
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 4: to just like you know, fight through it. And then

1456
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: I went in and I was like a little awkward,

1457
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: and then the Star Trek thing threw me off. And

1458
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 4: so looking back on that interview, I don't feel thank God,

1459
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 4: thank god I didn't get it, because if I if

1460
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: I got that, I wouldn't have done that because there

1461
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 4: is nothing that I would have gotten or that I

1462
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 4: missed out on by getting that job.

1463
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you don't know, you could have

1464
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: gone a terrible boss that you don't know. And by

1465
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: the way, I just want to work right now.

1466
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: I just want to measure Kung full circle Rachel Ziegler

1467
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: on this ship you got Ziegler. Ziegler didn't have enough

1468
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: respect because she didn't have enough respect for snow White,

1469
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: and now people hate her and you didn't get the

1470
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: job because you didn't have enough respect.

1471
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 4: Well, that's the difference. I didn't get the job. They

1472
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 4: did the right thing, They did their research.

1473
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: They don't ask her about snow White, which I'm guessing

1474
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: if they did, she lied through her teeth.

1475
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1476
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: Multiple time, I loved it.

1477
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: That's what she did.

1478
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: She's smarter than me, because I should have gone to

1479
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: the interview wearing a fucking spock t shirt going like

1480
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 4: live long.

1481
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: And prosper little glasses.

1482
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 3: This would be a dream for me.

1483
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: I've watched every episode of Star Trek since I was

1484
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 4: a little boy, and all I want to do is

1485
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: right for Star Trek. It's my It's been my dream

1486
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 4: ever since I was a kid, and I'm so excited

1487
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 4: to be here with you Star Trek Voyager people.

1488
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 3: Instead, I was like, nah, I've never seen it?

1489
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: What is it?

1490
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: Who I would have gotten you in hot water? I

1491
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: hate when there's time. The times that I will sometimes

1492
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: catch myself lying and I don't want to because I

1493
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: hate lying. Is when someone goes like have you seen it?

1494
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: Like they just quickly will be like a movie like.

1495
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: I almost say yes because I don't feel like them

1496
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: explaining it to me, like it's not me trying to

1497
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: be like like me. I just like don't want them

1498
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: to have to go into what it is. So I

1499
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: just want the conversation to be over. So I go yeah,

1500
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, fuck, why did I do that?

1501
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: Because then there's this conversation is not over now it's.

1502
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: What do I could test me, test me. You'll be

1503
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 4: the interviewer and I'll show you how it's done.

1504
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 1: Okay. Have you seen the Ed Burns movie Newlyweds?

1505
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh?

1506
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: I love that movie. It's you did it?

1507
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 4: God like it so amazing.

1508
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 3: Oh well you know, well, you're you're creating the show.

1509
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite character?

1510
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: I mean too many to account, too many to count.

1511
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: Four I think actually four main characters, which are the four.

1512
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: Which are the four Susan so the oh. I loved her.

1513
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: Her performance was so amazing. I don't remember your name.

1514
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 4: I just love I just well, I just love how

1515
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 4: real it was, you know, and it really it really

1516
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 4: made me feel seen when I watched that movie, because

1517
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a person who deals with you know,

1518
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: love and things like that, and I've had my share

1519
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 4: of heartbreak in the past, especially when it comes to

1520
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 4: times like you know, when when it gets really high stakes,

1521
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: when you're gonna get married or you do get married,

1522
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 4: and I'm worried because I'm not you know, I'm a

1523
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 4: person who just got married, and like seeing her what

1524
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 4: she went through.

1525
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: Were you satisfied with the ending?

1526
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 4: You know? Yeah, I was pretty satisfied with it, I guess.

1527
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 4: I mean, uh uh, There's a couple of things I

1528
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 4: would have done differently, maybe, but I mean, how could you?

1529
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 3: How could you?

1530
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: I will say with the character reminded me so much

1531
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: of your wife ally, So.

1532
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I didn't really I didn't make that connection.

1533
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 4: But I mean, I guess if you did, then you

1534
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 4: could tell.

1535
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: Me why why is his sister not her sister?

1536
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: I want to be why is that?

1537
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: Why?

1538
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: Why is that she was like beautiful. She was beautiful

1539
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: and young, and she like has the same like face

1540
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: shape and like body shape and like care.

1541
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: Yes, now I see what you're saying.

1542
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: Yes, well, I'm satisfied with this ending. Thank you guys

1543
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: for listening to the show today. We worked out a lot.

1544
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: We will be here tomorrow, don't Beka and did digit

1545
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: just lie? In interviews,