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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another exciting episode a Bachelor Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: with Me and my girl, Rachel, And as always, we

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Speaker 1: are bringing you one of the fabulous women from this season.

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Speaker 1: We have none other than kit herself, who you know,

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season she was proclaimed ausiness socialite.

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Speaker 1: But we are so excited to have her on because,

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Speaker 1: as we know, there's so much more to all of

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Speaker 1: these women than just what their title and their bios

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Speaker 1: have read. So before we get into her and the

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Speaker 1: cute little one on one that we saw between her

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Speaker 1: and Matt last night, we just got to get into

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Speaker 1: a quick little recap because there was a lot of drama,

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Speaker 1: of course, very on par with this season that went

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Speaker 1: down again on top of that, I kind of like

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Speaker 1: we're starting to settle a little bit and find more

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Speaker 1: of the love story. But I do want to see

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Speaker 1: much more of that to come, you know, and thankfully

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Speaker 1: it will with some of the women that have now

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Speaker 1: gone home. So let's just get into it, Rachel. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. So off the top, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: start with to be continued from last week, right, we

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Speaker 1: start with the roast ceremony. We see Matt at the

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Speaker 1: very top of the episode. Thank god that Matt finally

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Speaker 1: stepped up here and addressed everything that was going on

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Speaker 1: between the women. He addressed the rumors that have been circulating.

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Speaker 1: He addressed the cattiness and just the cruelty. I think

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Speaker 1: that that we've been seen as viewers. And thank god

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Speaker 1: because I said last week, like he better show up

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Speaker 1: this week, like he better stand his ground, he better

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Speaker 1: have some of these women's backs like he like I

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Speaker 1: needed more from him. And I feel like in that

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Speaker 1: very first confrontation with him between all the women, like

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Speaker 1: he did just that. And then we see him go

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Speaker 1: and of course I have a conversation with Anna and

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Speaker 1: send her home. So what were your thoughts on that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this whole episode is like the I guess, like

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Speaker 1: the juiciness was in the first half of it, so

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Speaker 1: and I was I was shocked. I didn't know we

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Speaker 1: were going to I just knew he was going to

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Speaker 1: give that last roast Tota and he didn't. So kudos

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Speaker 1: to Matt for that. I really loved him saying, you know, Victoria,

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Speaker 1: I just I've never seen anything like it, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want I don't want to see it again. I

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Speaker 1: just that she truly has no idea. This can't be

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Speaker 1: an act. This is not an act anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do think that she's an actress and she's playing

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Speaker 1: things up. I think she thought things were going to

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Speaker 1: go a certain way. I think she thought, maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: be a Karan, maybe I'll be a Demi. No, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, she's just mean. She's just

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Speaker 1: a mean girl. And when Matt questions her about using

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Speaker 1: the word ho and he's like, what concept of being

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Speaker 1: called to hoe is acceptable to be taken in? I

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Speaker 1: was like, great question, Matt, And what if Victoria had

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Speaker 1: for him? Nothing, no answers. She looks like a deer

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Speaker 1: in headlights. Yeah, I was really Yeah, I was really

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Speaker 1: really happy to see him take charge. I was happy

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Speaker 1: to see like he made a statement when he sent Anna,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Hannah, when he sent Hannah home, he made

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Speaker 1: a statement. He was basically saying, this won't be like,

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Speaker 1: I stand behind Britt, this is unacceptable. Well, you're ruining

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Speaker 1: this woman's life, Like, whether it's true or not. You

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Speaker 1: don't talk about things you don't know, don't talk about

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Speaker 1: things you haven't seen, and don't talk about things you've

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Speaker 1: never heard. Period. I learned that lesson a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: so he needed to send her home. She knew it

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Speaker 1: was coming, she had to go. I hope she's learned

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Speaker 1: she's nobody agrees with what she did. We know it

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Speaker 1: was wrong. I hope she's okay because she's going to

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Speaker 1: get a lot of heat. And I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it's like to get that much criticism, to be I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's universally disliked at the moment. So you guys, was like,

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Speaker 1: let's we know she was wrong, we know it was tacky,

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Speaker 1: we know it was inappropriate, it was handled in the

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Speaker 1: correct way. Matt sent her home, and let's just leave

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Speaker 1: it alone. We don't have to hear about Anna and

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Speaker 1: her rumors again. And Britt stays so we can see

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Speaker 1: his relationship progress with Britt and we can learn who

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Speaker 1: she really is rather than living in a space of rumors. Victoria,

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Speaker 1: she's gone, Ding dong. The witch is dead. You know

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like mal out of here,

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Speaker 1: good ridd cut it short. But we saw a lot

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Speaker 1: like Mari. I was shocked. She wen't seen a lot

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to screw around anymore. And and you know,

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Speaker 1: like where I criticized him last week as like not

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Speaker 1: like he went into it guns ablazing this week and

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Speaker 1: that was it. I want to ask your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: this because prior to both Anna and Victoria leaving, we

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Speaker 1: this point, like why is this happening now? Like you've

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Speaker 1: saying it because you got called out like it's like

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Speaker 1: you're walking out with your tail between your legs. What

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Speaker 1: were your thoughts on that, because it didn't sit well

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Speaker 1: I laughed when I think it was Serena who called

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Speaker 1: was a wake up call to them, like Matt's not

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Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. And who knows whether it was sincere

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Speaker 1: so you know we moved on. We saw two one

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Speaker 1: you guys have said a lot of thoughts about Rachel,

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Speaker 1: and there has been a lot of are you going

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Speaker 1: to address the things that you are sending us? You

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Speaker 1: sent them both both to Becca and I, and Becca

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Speaker 1: and I have actually discussed this. We are not ignoring you.

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Speaker 1: We have heard what you said, and I promise you

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Speaker 1: it will be addressed one way or another. But I

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Speaker 1: actually we can actually talk to that person. So I

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk around it. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: we ain't Anna up on this podcast. But when the

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Speaker 1: time is right and she be a guest, which I

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Speaker 1: do anticipate she will be on our podcast, then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it. So right now, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Rachel to Aid Rachel. That's how I'm gonna refer to her.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about two Aid Rachel in the sense

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Speaker 1: of what we saw on this episode. Okay, that's a disclaimer,

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Speaker 1: but please believe it's coming. So too Aide. Rachel goes

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Speaker 1: on this shopping day, which I'm sorry where are all?

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Speaker 1: How are they able to escape and go to all

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Speaker 1: these places? Didn't you think that poor Claire and Tatia.

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Speaker 1: We're stuck at the Leakinta and we saw them, you know,

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Speaker 1: around that same pool, take going those that same boar

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Speaker 1: They're on farms, they're going boxing and like their own museums,

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Speaker 1: car museums now shopping um with Beyonces stylist for at

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he still does, but he styled

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Speaker 1: Beyonce for a long time because he's from Texas. Oh

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Speaker 1: oh yeah this? Um yeah No. The more I see

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Speaker 1: of the grounds of Nemicole and I'm like, is this

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Speaker 1: It's like its own state right now. It's like Rhode Island. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's probably bigger than Rhode Island. But I'm happy that

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Speaker 1: Um listen, Becka, you had a date, like to aid

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Speaker 1: think Rachel felt probably similar, like she's like, this isn't

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Speaker 1: it was definitely nice. Is it just me or did

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Speaker 1: you think that when she came back with all those

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Speaker 1: well felt like they were they had me do this,

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Speaker 1: and Rachel, they literally loaded up, okay, everything I had.

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Speaker 1: I still have some of the stuff that I gifted,

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Speaker 1: Like it was everything from like bathing suits to leggings

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Speaker 1: to handbags, like anything you can think of, and again like,

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Speaker 1: of course you did. And you know what, Becca, I

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Speaker 1: would have been like, actually, what's that show? Are you?

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you want to do that? No,

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Speaker 1: I came back. Well, so my date that night lasted

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Speaker 1: we'll get into this, but I've never been in love before,

426
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, this is like a fairy

427
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: tale experience that I'm being offered. Let's see what this

428
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: is all about. So, yeah, was it a fairytale? What

429
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: you got in? What you got? What you got inside

430
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: the bubble? Was the fairy tale you thought? I mean,

431
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: I really I never cry. I'm a very cold person

432
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 1: emotionally in my day to day life, but I was

433
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: cracked open. Like so, it's a very emotionally taxing experience,

434
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: and you know, you hope that at the end of

435
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: it it's all worth it, and you kind of have

436
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: to just have faith in that, but it definitely is.

437
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: It was. This is going to sound so annoying, but

438
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: it was one of the hardest things I've ever ever done.

439
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: And that also just goes to show how privileged I've

440
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: been in my life to be able to say that.

441
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: But emotionally, it was very, very very hard, especially not

442
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: being able to speak to my family and my mom,

443
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: who's my number one, you know, supporter, and just my lifeline.

444
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: So not being able to be able to reach out

445
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: to anyone who knows me was really tough. Yeah, don't

446
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: feel like you're you know, don't feel bad about saying

447
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: it's the hardest thing that you've ever done, because Becca

448
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: and I have been in your shoes. It is hard,

449
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: especially when you, like you said, you're cold normally, or

450
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: you cut off your emotions on the outside. I'm a

451
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: very emotionless person on the outside. I'm actually super sensitive

452
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: on the inside. I don't like to tell people that,

453
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: but it's true. I'm like, I'm very soft on the inside,

454
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: and this experience strips you of everything. Accept your feelings

455
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: and that's all you have to deal with in a bubble.

456
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: So it's a it's very eye opening and there's a

457
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: level of vulnerability that you tap into that you didn't

458
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: even realize you had. So you know, that's just don't

459
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: be ashamed of that. That's just honest and we all

460
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: feel that way. And to be honest too, I feel

461
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: like everyone comes on the show and you can be tough,

462
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: you can be hard, you can be like I'm not

463
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: going to cry, and eventually you break. Like everyone at

464
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: some point or another, it happens and they're like, whoa,

465
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: my god, why am I crying? Why is this happening?

466
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: But it like did you want any points? I mean,

467
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: because like when you are left with nothing but your

468
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: feelings and your emotions and really trying to invest in

469
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: this relationship, it kind of becomes in a weird way,

470
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: like a therapy session. Day by day when you're with

471
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: the producers and the girls, like having these feelings where

472
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: you feel like you're busted open and you really have

473
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: to elaborate of like why you're thinking and feeling certain things.

474
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: Did you feel like that? Like it you know, it's

475
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: definitely difficult, But did you ever get to the point

476
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: where it became more setting, Like let's talk about this,

477
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: like let's have this therapy session. It feels good to

478
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: be able to get everything out. Yeah, I think. I mean, well,

479
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: if you aren't being cracked open and you still have

480
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: those walls up, you're probably not invested enough in the

481
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: process and in your relationship. So I think at a

482
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: certain point, yeah, if you're there long enough and you

483
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: do get to invest in your relationship, you're going to

484
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: be emotional at times because it is like you know,

485
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: you're building hopefully towards the rest of your life. So

486
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: it's very emotional and I think, yeah, I did definitely

487
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: interview became a little bit of a therapy session for

488
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: me day to day, which was great. And previously I

489
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: had started therapy for the first time in Quarantine and

490
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: it was like my twenty twenty resolution to really work

491
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: on my mental health. And I got to start doing

492
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: that over Zoom, which was weird, but I actually love

493
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: Zoom therapy and it definitely felt as though I was

494
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: building off of that work that I had already started

495
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: before I got there. That's amazing. Therapy is everything, and

496
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: it prepares you for this experience. So last night we

497
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 1: saw you had your one on one date. Now I

498
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: want to get there, but stop, let's go back a

499
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: little bit because I want to talk about how we

500
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: got there. As I said, you know at the top

501
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: of this this interview, there's been a lot of talk

502
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: surrounding the women on this season, and to be frank,

503
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: it's been very hard to watch. But you were there,

504
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: you were in the middle of it. So like, while

505
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: we have you, we want to ask you about that

506
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: maybe you can clear up some big some misconception and

507
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: that there may be maybe it wasn't quite what we're seeing,

508
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: but you have been grouped with the main girls kit

509
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: you have and then but like we see you in

510
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: last night kind of like admit what it is that

511
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: your part, you know in this whole thing, and like

512
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: of you vow to be better, but before we get there,

513
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: like what is going on? Is it really this toxic

514
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: situation that the viewers are seeing every Monday night? Yeah? Again,

515
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: I go back to the whole you are only seeing

516
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: one side of saying so it's one harsh line here

517
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: or there when it's been several people speaking their frustrations

518
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: and their feelings. And I definitely, after seeing how I

519
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: react to frustrating situations, I reflected and I thought to myself, Wow,

520
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: I should have more compassion right off the bat. And

521
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I have apologized in the situation specifically because I think

522
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: it's really her situation was she had compounding factors that were,

523
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, affecting her time there and I didn't know that,

524
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: And I wish I could have been there for her,

525
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: and you know, she could have been able to open

526
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: up to me about that stuff because it's so hard.

527
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: We're all going through this very difficult, you know, very

528
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: emotionally taxing experience together. And I mean, I made amazing

529
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: friends through it, and I just think that there is,

530
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, though we're all dating one guy, like, there

531
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: is opportunity to build those relationships with other women there too.

532
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: But I also think that a lot of the criticism

533
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: that I have gotten is very gendered, and I don't

534
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: like that. And I think if a man had said

535
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: some of the more aggressive things that I said on screen,

536
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: he would be applauded for standing up for himself. And

537
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: because it's a woman and women are supposed to turn

538
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: the other cheek and be compassionate and vulnerable, I think

539
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: it's harder for people to see that. And yeah, it's

540
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: something that I'm working on being more compassionate right off

541
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the bat. But I grew up with a role model

542
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: who never took note for an answer and built her

543
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: her empire off of that. And so when I feel

544
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: as though I am not being respected, I'm going to

545
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: say something I could have said it in a less

546
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: aggressive way. I'm trying to look at it and I'm trying,

547
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, a week by week, we're seeing different storylines

548
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: take place. Like a couple of weeks ago, it was

549
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: of course tough to watch all of the women. It

550
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: felt like gang up against Sarah and you know, like

551
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: I have to put myself back in your shoes, like

552
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I remember at that point, like when you're filming obviously,

553
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: like when it's airing, it seems so much more dramatic

554
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: and it seems so much more like, oh my gosh,

555
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: she said this or she did this, or you know

556
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: this and that, like so I can see where you

557
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: girls are coming from. Because we actually asked Chelsea this

558
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: last week too, like did it seem that extreme in

559
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: the moment? And she said no, like she said it

560
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: was a conversation, and so I get that. Like when

561
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: you add in the music and the like facial expressions

562
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: and the reactions from everyone, it seems so much more

563
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: so I can imagine being back like in your shoes.

564
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: It probably came across differently than it did as a viewer,

565
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: and like the Sarah stuff aside, Now I think overall

566
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: the past couple weeks of what we're seeing is more

567
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: so like more in general, when the new girls come

568
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: in and there's this whole mentality of like the Varsity

569
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: and the JV and of course then you have Victoria,

570
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: who I feel like she's on her she's on her

571
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: own different level that is just not to me condonible

572
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: where she's calling these girls sluts and horrors and hoes.

573
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: And I think for me, as if you were, like

574
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: I wish that more people other than just Katie stood

575
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: up stood up for the new girls, stood up against

576
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Victoria using this language stuff like that. So in that regard,

577
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: and I get, like, you know, if you're if you

578
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: feel offended and if you feel upset, like that's one thing,

579
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: but it's the name calling, like in the nastiness and

580
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: the cruelty of the words and the language that we're

581
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: seeing to certain girls, Like that's where it rubs me

582
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: such the wrong way. Do you watch that back now,

583
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: and like, do you have any regrets in that regard?

584
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Do you wish you would have stood up a little

585
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: bit more against Victoria or like stood up for those

586
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: new girls coming in? So when the new girls the

587
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: first night that the new girls came, I cried my

588
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: eyes out because I had become close with Kayla in

589
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: the house and seeing her leave, I felt as though,

590
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, Matt was choosing woman that he had just

591
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: met that night over very accomplished like super smart, amazing woman.

592
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: And because I didn't know the new girls yet and

593
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know their situation, I you know, I felt

594
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: hurt for my friends that I had met over the

595
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: past few weeks. So that was difficult and it definitely

596
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: adds a little bit of tension off the bat. But

597
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: my mentality towards the new girls, I tried to just

598
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: think of it as though, it kind of stinks that

599
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: we've all invested time thus far, and we've really been

600
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: broken open to this process and been so vulnerable with

601
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: Matt thus far. It stinks to see him seems like

602
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: give up on relationships that he had been starting over

603
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: the past few weeks. But at the same time, him

604
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: being able to explore for new relationships meant that I

605
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: at the end would be getting this version of him

606
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: that had seen all there was out there and still

607
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: chosen me. So that was my mentality going through it

608
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: was that now he just gets to explore more relationships

609
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: and that in the end strengthens yours. But you can

610
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: see how like the audience, you know, can fiel a

611
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: certain way by what they're saying. I mean, I would

612
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: say seeing the escort rumor situation was absolutely horrible. To

613
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: me because wild number one, which I said right off

614
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: the bat, was if she is an escort. Sex workers'

615
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: rights have become such like a way more transparent topic

616
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: in our culture, and I would hate for this show

617
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: to make an entire industry look like a negative thing.

618
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: When if it is consensual, if it's legal, if these

619
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: people are getting paid for their work, that's awesome. On

620
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: the other hand, I still recognize that there is stigma

621
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: around that work, So saying somebody is something or does

622
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: that job is incredibly not okay. And if it happened

623
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: to me, I would be so upset. And watching Brittany

624
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: how she reacted to that, I applaud her because I

625
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: think I don't think I would be able to continue

626
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: with the whole process if something like that, if I

627
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: had to deal with that through it and also know

628
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: that after leaving the show, this would be tied to

629
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: my reputation just because of the societal stigma that unfortunately

630
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: still surrounds that work. Well, and then what was her name? Hannah, Anna? Anna?

631
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: But and Anna brought it with the intent to be malicious.

632
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: She was trying to be negative or to bring something

633
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: to the table that was negative to Brittany, which is

634
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: what made it worse. I don't know what Anna. I'm

635
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: actually I'm an call her Hannah, you know what I mean?

636
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: So she called Brittany out of her name as an escort.

637
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm a caller out of her name too. I don't

638
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: think Hannah. I don't know what Hannah was doing. But

639
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: the great thing is is that finally we see Matt

640
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: shut it down. And that's what I really appreciated. I thought,

641
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: where are we going with the storyline? This cannot be

642
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: a whole storyline? Is this is a really bad look.

643
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: But to see that he got down to the to

644
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: the issue, saw what the problem was and shut it down.

645
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: It was almost like a cleansing of the house. Between

646
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: that and Victoria going home, I said, whoa, they must

647
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: feel so much like it's like it's like to stay

648
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: at home orders being lifted, you know what I mean,

649
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Like you feel like you can breathe. I was like,

650
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: finally we can actually just focus on our love stories,

651
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: like each of us. Because prior to Anna leaving and

652
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: the whole Victoria drama every week every Rose ceremony, it

653
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: was just like why am I even here? Like I

654
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: am just constantly talking about girls in the house, you know,

655
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: an interview. It was just like questions about that, questions

656
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: about the drama and all of that, and I'm just like,

657
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: I can I just like have a few minutes with

658
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: Matt because I need to figure out do I like him?

659
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: Because I have had five minutes here and there with

660
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: him and the rest of the time has been consumed

661
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: by drama in the house and that was so just

662
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: unfortunate to me. So seeing him handle that situation, I

663
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: was like, like, you look really good right now, You're

664
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: looking amazing, because thank gosh, that was handled. It was

665
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: like so much drama for no reason I and I

666
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: don't want to fix it on the girls that left

667
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: in the drama too too much. I do want to

668
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: get into, of course, your time with Matt. But I

669
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: want to ask you this because you're obviously the guests

670
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: we have this week. I truly would ask probably any guest,

671
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: any woman that was living in the resort at this time,

672
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: because I think there's a disconnect. Where as a viewer,

673
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm seeing a lot of this drama and

674
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: the cattiness with some of the women like Victoria and

675
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Anna and MJ go down and so as a viewer,

676
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm witnessing this, But then some of these women are

677
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: thinking that, like they aren't doing anything wrong and that

678
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: they're great and that they deserve apologies and so like,

679
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: and you know them because you obviously lived with them

680
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: for a small amount of time, and so like, is

681
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: there just a disconnect with what I'm seeing? Like it's like,

682
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: do you truly think that they were in the wrong?

683
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Because I keep seeing Victoria being like, you know, my

684
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: intentions were good. I'm not a malicious person. But at

685
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's like you're continue only

686
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: calling these women these terrible names, but yet you think

687
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: that you're Matt's wife, and then no one else here

688
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: is good for him? Like was she always like that?

689
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Like did anyone at one, like besides Katie say like, hey,

690
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: like stop with the bullshit, stop with the name calling,

691
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: stop with this trash talk. Like we're like, am I

692
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: just missing some disconnect there with some of these girls? Yeah?

693
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean there were times. The thing about Victoria is

694
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: that she I honestly, I'm like, you should have a

695
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: comedy special because you are such a talented comedian. She's

696
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 1: very where but where are we? Where is this? Where

697
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: is this comedic act. We are, we Are, It is

698
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: so not coming through the television screen. Yeah, I have

699
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: to get to last. So that number one is a

700
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: side of her that I don't think it's very seen

701
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: on the show. And then also she opened up to

702
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: me and a few other girls about traumas that she

703
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: has dealt with in her life, and I would say

704
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: that that's the type of saying where it is like you.

705
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: I wish that side of her was shown because I

706
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: think it would elucidate why maybe she acts certain ways

707
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: towards other people. I don't know if she was willing

708
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: to open up about that to Matt, so I'm wondering

709
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: why it isn't shown. But again, people, you know, are

710
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: two dimensional and multidimensional in person, and that doesn't always

711
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: come across on screen. But I will say with a

712
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: lot of the things that she has said that I

713
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: didn't see her say, a lot of the very derogatory

714
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: lane when she uses, especially towards the New Girls, was

715
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting to watch. So I'm not going to defend her,

716
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: but I will say that there are sides of her

717
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: that you don't see. But it's definitely like unforgivable. A

718
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: lot of the things that she said. Yeah, I've never

719
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: seen a person who's so who lacks such self awareness.

720
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: She's truly delusion personified. Enough about her because she's gone. Now, yeah,

721
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: so we assume she's not coming back. I thought we

722
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be longer. So I really

723
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: appreciate that that we can move past talking about her.

724
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: But let's talk about you. You finally got your one

725
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: on one. Now. I know it may seem like you

726
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: waited forever, but this is peak time to yet you're

727
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: one on one. It is it Truly it's a sweet

728
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: spot because you've been building on your relationship and then

729
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: you get it in the middle of the season as

730
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: opposed too. Sorry, Becca, I know you were a first date.

731
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: You got the first date, but a first dat or

732
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: it's like they get so excited and everything kind of

733
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: goes down from there and like it's just a hard

734
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: spot to be it. So you get your one on one.

735
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Not only do you get your one on one, but

736
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Matt remember something very special that you told him, which,

737
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: let's be honest with men, we're always like, are you

738
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: listening to me? Did you hear what I said? You

739
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: didn't have to question that with Matt, he was listening

740
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: to you, and he planned an entire date around something

741
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: that was very sentimental and brought a piece of home,

742
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, to nim Micolon for you. How did that feel?

743
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: And just like just that feeling of getting that one

744
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: on one. Yeah, I mean I literally have chills now

745
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: as you're saying that, because I cried when I got

746
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: the date card because I just felt so seen and you're,

747
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, in this house with so many beautiful women

748
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: and you know, other relationships or progressing. And to think

749
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: that he remembered the fact that I, you know, that

750
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: cooking is so important to my family and you know,

751
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: having a mom that's so busy and being like cooking

752
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: is the only time that we have together a lot

753
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: of the time. So it's it was so important to me.

754
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: And I felt so connected to my mom during my

755
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: date and to my family. So yeah, I get chills again,

756
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: like thinking about that. It was truly the best date

757
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: that I could have had. You know, there were other

758
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: situations where I was like, Wow, I wish I could

759
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: have gone skydiving, or like, I'm such a risk taker,

760
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: so I love like the ATV date would be so fun,

761
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: but having that sentiment in the date made it. It's

762
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: so romantic, so I couldn't have asked for something more perfect.

763
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: And I think it's special to not only for the

764
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: fact that he remembered something that you're you know that

765
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: is so personal to you, but it's also a great

766
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: date where you probably had a lot of time together.

767
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: When you're out, you know, doing something more adventurous, you

768
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: don't get you don't get to talk as much. It's

769
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: more muddled by like what you're doing and moving from

770
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: A to B. Like here, your date replicated what real

771
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: life could be and that's something that you said, like this,

772
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, tonight is what our life could look like,

773
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: which I think is really special. You also did mention

774
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: in that conversation with Met that you were falling in

775
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: love with him. Yeah, so I want to know, and

776
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure all of our listeners do too, Like when

777
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: was the moment where you were kind of clicked where

778
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: you're like this could work, this, he could be the one,

779
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: and like it could be us at the end of this,

780
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Like when was that moment for you? Yeah, Oh my gosh,

781
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: I feel like to my stomach saying it. But I

782
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: am a person that in previous relationships, I get the

783
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: ick real quick, like after like once the relationship goes

784
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: into like okay, this could be something very serious. Usually

785
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: I run for the hills. And that's pretty cringey. Guy.

786
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: He does a lot of like goofy stuff. Oh I'm

787
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: glad we're acknowledging that. At the point where I saw

788
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: him wipe out skateboarding and I was like, wow, you

789
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: are still so hot to me, I was like, what, Like,

790
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm simp I am this is it's just like you.

791
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: It's so I mean, you're asking me to explain what

792
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: falling in love is like, which like there's only metaphors

793
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: to explain that. But I think for me, it's like

794
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: you love every part of that person, the cringing parts,

795
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: the amazing parts that just like make Matt a one

796
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: of a kind human being. But yeah, it's so hard

797
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: to explain. But it's a feeling like you're at the

798
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: top of a roller coaster right before you go down.

799
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah's feeling. That's a good one. That's a good metaphor.

800
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people think they know

801
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: who you are because just knowing like who your mom

802
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: is or where you come from, people think that it's

803
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: easy to generalize who kid is and you've probably dealt

804
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: with that your entire life. And now you're on TV,

805
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: so you're on this public stage for people to have

806
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: their opinions about you. I feel like there was a

807
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: conversation that you and Matt had with one another where

808
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: he asked you what the future would look like, and

809
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, you basically say, and I'm paraphrasing, that it

810
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: would look like this, like a date night would be

811
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: like this with you and for you. Do you feel

812
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: like people have a misconception about how you live your

813
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: life and what a relationship with you looks like? And yeah,

814
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: because you do come from a glamorous life, which listen,

815
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: don't be ashamed of that. When you rolled up, was

816
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: it a rolls that you rolled up in? Whatever you

817
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: rolled up in? I was Bentley whatever you rolled up

818
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, get it, girl, I'll take your

819
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: nimmicolon and I'll raise it three. I'll raise it to

820
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: my spot and I have it. Yeah. I mean, I

821
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: think people think that my life is like gossip Girl,

822
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: and I've gotten the Blair Waldorf thing and I've kind

823
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: of like played into it a little bit. But obviously

824
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: it's oh my gosh. This is yeah, this is something

825
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 1: that I've struggled with my entire life. And to say

826
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: struggled with it just means that, like, I have been

827
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: given so much in my life and I've had so

828
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: many amazing opportunities and experiences that you know, it's yeah,

829
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: with all of that comes some explaining and some rightful

830
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, people saying you are so privileged. Yes, I

831
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: know that. I try all the time to be comfortable

832
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: with that. And you know, at the end of the day,

833
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm going to fashion shows every day.

834
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: That's part of my life, the glamorous things. Yes, I've

835
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: been able to experience a lot of that, but it

836
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm not down to cook dinner at home.

837
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: I'm very much an introvert, so I do like if

838
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not out to events or whatever, I love being

839
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: at home, Like I love, you know, just hanging out

840
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: of my sweatpants or whatever. So it is it's something

841
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: that you would only see if you're one of my

842
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: friends or someone I'm dating. I want to ask you

843
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: this and kind of going into just your life because

844
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: you are you were the youngest woman on this season. Correct,

845
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because we had the same conversation with

846
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Noah last season because he was also the youngest and

847
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: he got a lot of crap for it from the

848
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: other guys in the in the house. And for you,

849
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: like age doesn't dictate experience, like you've obviously experienced a

850
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: lot of really cool, unique things in your life that

851
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: most people probably haven't, and like talking to you and

852
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: just watching you also on TV, like you can stand

853
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: the drama, you can hold your own. But did you

854
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: ever get flat from any of the girls regarding your

855
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: age or was that something that because they got to

856
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: know you and how you brought up in these different

857
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: experience experiences that you lived through, was it not ever

858
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: really an issue. I mean, I don't know what they

859
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: would say now, but when we were there, I think

860
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the women were very surprised at how

861
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: mature I was from age, And yeah, I think that

862
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: comes from growing up in New York City, having a

863
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: lot of experiences at a very young age. I mean

864
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: I started going out when I was fourteen. I don't

865
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: know if I'm along troll me too, but like I

866
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: had an idea when I was very young and was

867
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: going to clubs when I was very young. So at

868
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: this point, I'm like, can I just have a glass

869
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: of wine and go to bed at nine pm? Like

870
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: woman after my own heart? I always say I turned

871
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: thirty before I turned twenty one, so I and I

872
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: think that that came across to all of the women

873
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: that were in the house with me. Who were you

874
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: the closest to in the house? Piper? Really? Yeah, we

875
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of Piper. I know, finally she's

876
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: getting she's getting more time, which is so important because

877
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: she is hilarious and honestly, her face, her facial expressions

878
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: like give me life throughout the entire show. So yeah,

879
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: she's one of a kind. Um. So obviously coming down

880
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: to this show and you know, you no one ever

881
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: knows what to expect. It's like, you know the basics

882
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 1: of it, Like you're going you're going to meet twenty

883
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: five thirty women, you're all, you know, vying for one

884
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: man's heart. You know the basics of it. But what

885
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: was one thing that once you were there that you

886
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: really learned about yourself? I mean I might be surprising

887
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: for some of you, but I am not a confrontational

888
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: person at all in my life. I never have drama

889
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: with my friends, or It's very hard for me to

890
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: stand up for myself a lot of the time in

891
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: my life because I'm more of an arbiter, and I

892
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: think that comes from growing up with divorce parents. And

893
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: I would say that I would mostly in my life

894
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: I would prefer to just be comfortable and safe than

895
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: sometimes to stand up for myself. But being in such

896
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: a shortened and very intense experience made me want to

897
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: stand up for myself more, which was honestly a growing

898
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: experience for me and something that I've taken into my

899
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: life now. I try not to be as explosive with

900
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: it as I am at times on the show, but

901
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: I think it's very very important to stand up for

902
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: yourself and not turn the other cheek in a lot

903
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: of situations. My last question for you is, we've seen

904
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the show be a certain way up to it seems

905
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: like this point like things were starting to turn. Is

906
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: that the case, Like, I know you can't tell us

907
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: what happens, but if you can give us a hint,

908
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: do things start to change. Do we see more love

909
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: stories come out? Or is it just because I mean

910
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: also in this episode, we saw MJ and she was

911
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: like oh, y'all thought it was done because Victoria's gone.

912
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, hold my beer, I got this MJ the person,

913
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: not the vibrator. So is do we see things start

914
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: to change? Oh my god? Yeah, well hello, they do

915
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: because Heather comes give us a sleeping about that. We

916
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: don't like that. I mean, yeah, so Heather comes and

917
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: that was at that point I was just like, give

918
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: me a break, like, yeah, one more thing after the other. So, yeah,

919
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: there's there's a little bit of drama. So but I've

920
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: kept it. Definitely. It starts to get serious and that

921
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: and get to the point where like we're all really

922
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: examining our relationships and kind of focusing in on ourselves

923
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: and thank gosh, not talking about the drama in the

924
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: house anymore. Good good, good good. Viewers want to hear that,

925
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: our listeners will want to hear that. Um. Before I

926
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: get to the last question, I do want to ask

927
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: you this. And you know, it's funny because obviously Manhattan

928
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: is a huge city, but you know, it's still a

929
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: small world. And Natasha, our dear friend who we love

930
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: so much. You know, she was on Peter season. We

931
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: know that you guys have met previously. Did you ever

932
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: reach out to her before coming on the show to

933
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: get any advice or to gauge kind of like what

934
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: you're getting yourself into. Yeah, So I met Natasha through

935
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: my family friend who I've known and he's known me

936
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: for my entire life, and I did reach out to

937
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: her during the casting process when I was deciding is

938
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: this right for me? And she definitely she warned me

939
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: about a few things that she faced, especially just like

940
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: that hate online and some of her struggles with that.

941
00:55:53,719 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: But that you know, I've always kind of faced that

942
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: sort of hate and criticism just from being in the

943
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: public eye since I was little, so I'm more used

944
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: to that. It's definitely on a bigger scale now and

945
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: it's very nasty. And I won't say that I'm not

946
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: affected by it, because it does affect me, but I'm

947
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: definitely pretty used to it at this point. And I

948
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: would say she definitely gave me some words of advice

949
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: in terms of, like she said that she met some

950
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: of her best friends on the show, and you know,

951
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: it is worth the risk of what might happen after

952
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: and sort of the negative attention on you for this

953
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: amazing opportunity to hopefully, like meet the love of your life. UM,

954
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I took the leap based on that advice.

955
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: Well you've been smiling. I mean, do you meet the

956
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: love of your life? I can't you want to talk

957
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: about him? She's good, she's good, she's prepped. UM. Okay,

958
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: Actually one more question before I get to like the

959
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: final final that we ask all of our guests. UM, So,

960
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: like what is your five year plan like in a

961
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: perfect ideal world, you know, like once you finished school, Like,

962
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: what does your life look like. I believe I'll work

963
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: in fashion after school. Um, and that's what I'm going

964
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: to school for. But a huge part of my life

965
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: has always been health and wellness. UM. So that is

966
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: something that I think I will take through whatever career

967
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: I have. UM. Is definitely like an emphasis on mental

968
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: health and physical health. So yeah, that's awesome. Great, Well

969
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: we can't see. I mean, like, if you have someone

970
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: like your mom leading the way, I have no doubt

971
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: that great things will come from you for sure. Okay,

972
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: I promise this is our very last question, and we

973
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: ask all of our guests this. Like I said, but overall,

974
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: up until this point, what was your rose and what

975
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: was your thorn of the journey? I would say the

976
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: rose was, well, I'll do the thorn first. Is easy.

977
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: Is the drama and the house, and the response to

978
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: the drama and the house towards me, the negative response,

979
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: that's not fun. But I'll end on the rose and

980
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: say that I never thought that I could be so

981
00:58:52,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: vulnerable with someone. And I also didn't think that I

982
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: would be able to let my walls down in such

983
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: a way that I did, and it it just it

984
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: broke me open in a way that I know I'll

985
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: be able to take into the rest of my life.

986
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: And I'm so thankful for that. That's really great, that's

987
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: really beautiful. Wait, wait before we go, we don't know

988
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: what happens the rest of the season, Like this is

989
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: the first season. I always say this, I'm going in

990
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: totally blind, like, don't know any spoilers. So I don't

991
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: know what happens with you. But if it doesn't work

992
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: out with Matt, would we potentially see you on the

993
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: shores of Paradise one day? So I don't know about that,

994
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: we'll see I don't blame him. It's a difference. Shit,

995
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: y'all live in Paradise. Okay, this is this. I don't

996
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: know how I would feel about women showing up randomly

997
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: that you sign up for that in Paradise. You don't

998
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: sign up for that on the Bachelor. So yeah, they

999
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: got the short end of the stick. Yeah, I just

1000
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know how. I am never negative about

1001
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: how you guys responded to the women coming because I

1002
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: don't know how I would respond to that, Like, it's

1003
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: just it's unfair to Matt, it's unfair to you guys.

1004
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's a fit of the women coming in late.

1005
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: It's just a mess. So it's only entertaining for the

1006
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: people who watch it. I but then think of how

1007
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: potentially easy parents, I'll think about it, think about think

1008
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: about it before before you step on those on those

1009
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: shore as Paradise. Yeah, it has been an absolute pleasure

1010
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: having you on UM And when you're in LA, I'll

1011
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: bring you some more, don't If you like sparkman wine,

1012
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: I'll drop some off. But we just are glad that

1013
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: you were able to take some time out of your

1014
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: busy day, your crazy schedule to be with us and

1015
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: tell with us they're having me. Yeah, thanks for being here,

1016
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: but nerves are gone. Good, Good, take care, enjoy the

1017
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: way Best Coast and yeah, we can't wait to keep

1018
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: watching you on the show. M Well, hopefully see you

1019
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: again soon. Okay, how great was Kit? It's nice that

1020
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: she could come on the podcast and clear up some

1021
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: misconceptions that people have about her, which I feel like

1022
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: that's low hanging fruit, right. It's easy to pick on

1023
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: the girl who you know, it's like Karen on my season,

1024
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Like it's easy to try to sum her up and

1025
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: think you know who she is. And I'm happy that

1026
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: she was able to speak her piece on Bachelor Happy Hour.

1027
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: I am too, And you know, we gotta we gotta

1028
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: learn by now that you can't just judge somebody by

1029
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: the by their bio. And she's so much more than

1030
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: a social light. Like she's so much going on. I

1031
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: can't wait to see where life takes her. And even

1032
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: though she is the youngest woman on this season, like

1033
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: she's lived a life and she still seems so mature

1034
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: and grounded and like she's finding her way in this world.

1035
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: And so, you know, I always love getting to know

1036
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: these women most yeah, I will say most of them, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1037
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: most of them. But we hope you guys loved her too.

1038
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: We hope you guys enjoyed the podcast, and she gave

1039
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: us a really good tease about what's to come. You know,

1040
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: a lot of you have been frustrated about all the

1041
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: drama that we're seeing. We're what five six episodes and

1042
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the season at this point,

1043
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: and she kind of alluded to we're going to see

1044
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: more love stories and we're going to see more other

1045
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: sides of these women. So that's really promising. So, you know,

1046
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: here's to better days ahead, you know, for Matt James

1047
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: this season. So thank you, guys so much for hanging

1048
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: out with us. We're so excited for next week's episode,

1049
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: and the next, and the next and the next, until

1050
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: we get to the end of this thing and see

1051
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: how it all unfolds. Keep writing us, letting us know

1052
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: your thoughts, your comments, your constructive criticism. Will take them,

1053
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: we'll take them on, we'll take them into consideration, and

1054
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: we will put them into this podcast. All right, guys,

1055
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: we have grocery Store Joe on here to tell us

1056
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: what we can expect to hear on Clickbait this week.

1057
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: Rachel and back at, thanks so much for letting me

1058
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: hap on. We have a brand new episode of clickbait

1059
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: it out right now, we have the one and only

1060
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: Ben Higgins on and like always, we break down Bachelor

1061
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