WEBVTT - #466 Packers Unscripted: One-of-a-kind contest 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:20.400 Yeah, Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.480 I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.120 West hod Kuitz. Were coming to you here from our 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.320 studios at lambeau Field West. It is Friday, our final 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.880 show of the week and that means Keys to Victory 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:37.559 Day Packers Chargers Sunday out in Los Angeles. Where do 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.960 you start with this one? What will it take for 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.559 the Packers to come back to green Bay eight and one? 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.080 Taking care of business? That's been my mentality this entire week, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.159 I think for this team and where this all shuffles 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.760 out for them, they have done so many different things 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.080 well situationally that certainly you need those things to line 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.680 up again if this ends up being a close ball game, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.600 is I still anticipate it will be. I do too. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:04.039 But the thing about green Bay that separated them from being, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.959 you know, at this point of the season, you know, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.080 sitting where they are, and then the Chargers being in 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.440 the position they are with five losses already, is that 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.080 Packers have executed so much better with the situational things, 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.399 whether it's the four minute offense to close out games, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.240 whether it's their fifteen, you know, first scripted place to 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:24.360 start games, third down Situationally, they've been excellent this year. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.120 It's been an area that's plagued them in the past. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.920 The biggest key I think for Green Bay is going 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.200 to be if you can have enough stitch enough of 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.280 those things together. And then, by the way, if you 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.560 get Davante Adams back, the element that that offers to this, 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.160 you know, and to this offense and a challenge to 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.880 the Chargers defense, I think really could be a thing 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.600 that tips the scales. Yeah, I think the Packers, for 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.320 all the talk about how it's going to be a 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.280 pro Packers crowd and you know, won't really be like 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.480 a true road game and all that kind of stuff, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.240 I think the Packers have to be ready for another 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.600 one of those punches in the mouth they got from 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.360 Kansas City last week. Because this is a Chargers team. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.440 They were two and five, they were on they were 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.639 on the brink. If Eddie Pineiro's kick goes through at 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.639 Soldier Field last week, the Chargers season almost for all 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.480 intents and purposes, is over at two and six at 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.240 a halfway point. They got a reprieve. They know it, 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.560 and this is a this is a good team that 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.000 made a really strong second half run last year. I 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.840 expect them to give the Packers absolutely everything they can 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.160 handle because they're still in this thing, and they know 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.320 if they get to four and five with seven games 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.040 to go, as up and down as a lot of 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.160 teams are in the a f C right now, aside 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.720 from the New England Patriots, I think the Chargers are 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.040 gonna feel like they're right in and and uh in 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.280 a lot of ways. The Packers have to do what 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.200 they did last week against Kansas City, which is when 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.080 that momentum starts to turn the other way, because I 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.799 think there's going to be a stretch in this game 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.680 when it will. The Packers need to limit the damage. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.960 And I thought last week stopping that Kansas City drive 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.520 right at the end of the first half and making 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.800 them kick a field goal so it was only seventeen 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.480 fourteen at halftime instead of twenty one to fourteen after 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.840 the Packers were up fourteen nothing earlier, I thought that 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.040 was starting to turn things back in the other direction. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.280 And the Packers are going to need a couple of 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.200 moments like that, I think in this game on Sunday 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:24.839 to withstand or at least limit a surge from the Chargers. Yeah, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.760 the Charges are the most dangerous type of three and 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.080 five team that you're going to face because they can 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.080 basically play to anybody's level. And you've seen that. You know, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.840 they can obviously play down to the competition, but they 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.960 can play up to it as well. And you know, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.160 Philip Rivers has been through so many of these things 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.400 over the years. The thing that does stand out to me, though, Mike, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.240 if you look at it, the games in which Rivers 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.720 has turned over the football have been mostly the games 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.000 where the Chargers have not prevailed. That game against Detroit 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.440 seventy three passer rating, they lose thirteen to ten. The 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:57.000 loss to Denver, which was a demoralizing one thirteen a 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.240 fifty eight point six passer rating. To intercept is in 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.880 that ball game Pittsburgh the following week two more interception eight. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.360 When he's been on, they've had a chance. When he's 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:13.320 been off, it's it's hurt them. But with Philip Rivers 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.120 playing the way he does in the structure of this 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.280 offense is that he can still go off at any time. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.800 I mentioned Insider in box. I look at him and 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.880 Keenan Allen is one of the top quarterback receiver combos 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.240 in this league right now. And for that reason is 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.559 why I think, yeah, if there's going to be some series, 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.200 if there's going to be some drives that they end 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.920 up you know, putting together, you know, lengthy eight nine plays, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.320 they move the ball, you have to be able to 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.080 stay stout in the red zone. And the Packers have 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.400 been terrific in that way this season. So there there's 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.640 gonna be those adverse moments. And even if it is 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.880 a pro Packers crowd inside you know, the stadium, thirty 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.120 thousand seats or whatever, most of it on top of 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.479 the field, you still have to be ready to rally. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.200 You still have to be ready to cut it out. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.720 And I think one thing that the seven and one 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.160 start has taught the Packers and Ron Williams was discussing 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.599 in the locker room this week, is when you find 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.599 ways to win like this and you keep you know, 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.480 getting those ws in your your win column, that's what's 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.200 going to propel you into the second half of a 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.520 season because you've been there before many times. And then 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.320 so yeah, I I agree with you entirely, because as 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.680 we talked about at the beginning, of the week. There's 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.400 a narrative with this Chargers team in twenty nineteen and 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.520 one with this Packers team in twenty nineteen, and a 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:31.039 lot of it comes down to executing being the better 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.240 team in the fourth quarter, and the Chargers for the 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.280 most part have not been and that is why they 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.279 are three and five, and they very easily could be 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.520 two and six. As I said, if that, you know, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.839 they gave up the drive that set up the field goal. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.640 They weren't getting it done when they needed to in 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.159 the fourth quarter, but they caught a break. The Packers 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.039 for the most part have been the better team in 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.279 the fourth quarter this year and that's why they're seven 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.440 and one. So as far as with green Bay, that 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.200 being who you are, you want to continue to be 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.320 that team. But it's funny to me, is somebody in 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.559 inbox this week brought up He's like, well, Philip Rivers 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.599 has never won against the Packers, which technically is true. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.400 He's owing three against Green Bay, but he's put up 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.880 a lot of yards against green Bay. Yeah, I mean, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.559 I think about that game. I think in two thousand 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.080 fifteen that they played here at lambeau Field. I want 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.160 to say he threw for was it four or eight 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.960 yards or something insane? It was it was over four hundred. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.800 I know that he was throwing the ball all over 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.560 the place. And the game out in San Diego in 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.240 two thousand eleven, the Packers have built a big lead 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.680 and the Chargers were coming back. It turned out to 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.800 kind of be a shootout, going back and forth, and 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.480 um the Chargers lost the game but still put up 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.800 thirty four points and Rivers had some big numbers that 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.960 day as well. Yeah. I mean, he's averaging three yards 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.440 per game against Green Bay through the air in those 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.719 three games. So you can't just look at the wins 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.400 and losses and be like, Okay, well this is just 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.640 gonna be an easy cake walk. He's going to present challenges. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.600 But the point I want to get to at the 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.600 end of all this is that the takeaways can be 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.039 the difference maker, that can be the common denominator when 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.880 when you're looking for a path to victory against l 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.080 A and and there's just they've given the ball away 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.880 too much and then they just haven't been able to 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:05.320 take it away the way they have in the past 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.000 few seasons. So if the Packers can win that area, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.200 which I want to say, in what six of their 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.280 eight games so far they have that that is going 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.760 to be a big path here for the Packers to proceed. Yeah. Well, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.880 a couple of stats and info nuggets here for you, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.560 wes Um. I actually looked this up just before we 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.160 came into the studio. Philip Rivers will be the first 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:30.000 a f C quarterback to face Aaron Rodgers three times 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.680 with the same team. Yeah, it's never happened before, partly 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.400 because of Rogers injuries where he's missed games with Roethlisberger 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.720 because you know, because of injuries. He did face Flacco 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.920 for a third time this past year, but that was 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.760 once with Denver as opposed to the first two with Baltimore. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.160 So that's just kind of interesting because because of the 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.320 once every four years thing that here Rogers and Rivers 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.640 are facing off with the same teams for the third time. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.960 The other thing is, do you know how far how 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.280 far back you have to go to find a Packers 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.800 game that was played in front of a crowd of 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:09.600 roughly thirty thousand people? I must you're pretty close. There 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:10.880 was one in the I remember there was one in 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.440 the eighties or nineties. There were actually a couple of 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.240 games that year. One was that the Pontiac Silver Dome 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.040 in Detroit, where the announced attendants was like twenty nine 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.640 thousand people. It's a good year for the Lions. But anyway, 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.640 just kind of an interesting. Yeah, there were there were 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.080 I'm trying to remember now. I I apologize for not 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.600 writing it down. I think it was against Atlanta. Was 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.800 the other one that where the the announced crowd was 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.960 like thousand something That just like a post like player 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.560 lockout kind of lull that really, I don't know, Yeah, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.400 it was, it was odd. The numbers there were odd. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.440 I wanted to ask you, though, with regard to crowd size, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.720 what do you make of what we're expecting to see 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.680 in terms of this invasion of the Packers fans, Because 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.839 I mean, I think it's going to be a really 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:03.320 really unique atmosphere to have potentially a pro Packers crowd 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.200 that's not at lambeau Field. I find that really intriguing 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.800 and I'm really anxious to see what that's going to 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.640 be like. But as far as the impact on the game, 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.520 one of the points I made in Insider in Boxes 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.600 that the Chargers know what this is like because earlier 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.880 this year they played a primetime game in that stadium 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:26.720 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and that traveling contingent of Pittsburgh fans. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.560 They took over the place and they made it a 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.479 home game for Pittsburgh. So from the whole atmosphere and 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.840 and dealing with that type of crowd situation in your 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.760 own stadium, so to speak, the Charges have dealt with 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.880 this before, So from that standpoint, it's not there's not 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.839 going to be some sort of a shelf shock or 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.079 a shock to the system. And in that respect, yeah, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.280 So if I had my druthers here, I'd rather be 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.920 in London this week. I wish that that would have 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.440 been where the game is going to be playing, so 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.880 all this snow falling outside we wouldn't have to deal 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.880 with until we get back. No, But okay, so that's 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.160 first and foremost. I still think, I mean, and they 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.080 should have played this game in London. I actually even 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.240 I said this on the yesterday show for the Charger's sake, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.120 I think would have benefited them to have it in London. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.480 I was pegging this game to be the one in London, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.880 going back to like ten, like per Packers at Chargers 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.120 in nineteen that's got to be the game that's going 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.120 to London. We're going to l A, going to l 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:21.000 A instead. But uh, that little mini Lambeau that's gonna 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.760 be over there is going to be something to be 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.280 a part of. Because here's the thing. Thirty thousand seats 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.320 for football I think twenty seven thousand for soccer being 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.920 in Winnipeg this year, even though it didn't fill up, 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.920 that was a thirty three thousand seat stadium, So it 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.839 gives you sort of a little bit of a field. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.480 I don't know where the press boxes. We could be 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.640 behind the outhouse for all I know. But as far 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.640 as the feeling of the stadium, I've envisioning it in 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.680 my mind much like Winnipeg, and if that plays out, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.040 it's gonna be a really cool environment. To answer your 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.680 original question, I think it gonna be really fun to 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.600 be a part of because it's so intimate and in 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.400 this day and age, and you look at college football 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.400 hundred thousand seeds stadiums, the NFL seven eight seed stadiums, 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.280 Jerry World or whatever it was for that game, you 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.280 very rarely get an opportunity to play in this kind 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.720 of environment. So I think, let me put it this 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.840 way too. The people that are forking over that cash, 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.440 whether it was straightaway at the ticket office or on 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.160 the secondary market, You've got to be a pretty big 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.520 fan to be able to wanting to pay that kind 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.760 of you know, premium. So I think it's going to 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.200 be an awesome environment to be a part of. Yeah, 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:32.640 I'm really looking forward to it too, I think, I mean, yeah, 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.280 this will be the only the only time the Packers 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.480 in their hundred one year history and moving forward will 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.920 play a game in this particular stadium because the next 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.520 time the Packers are going to play the Chargers on 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.440 the road, obviously it'll be well after the new stadium 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.280 in l A has built, the one that the Rams 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.079 and the Chargers are going to share eventually, So this 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:59.559 is eventually, supposedly allegedly. But yeah, I think it's going 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.360 to be I think it's going to be fun. I 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.000 do want to take a look at what else is 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.920 going on in Week nine in the NFL though. Before 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.680 we signed off for the week, we saw hack of 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.800 a ballgame last night on Thursday Night Football. Look like 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.680 the forty Niners were in command. They had a two 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.800 score lead with about five minutes to go, all of 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.520 a sudden boom and eighty eight yard touchdown pass, and 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.760 the Cardinals had a couple of really really big chances 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.680 to get the ball back down the stretch. A third 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.960 and eleven they gave it up, a third and nine 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.760 they gave it up, And the forty Niners were able 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.680 to kill those last five minutes without giving the ball 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.000 back to the Cardinals with just a three point deficits. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.240 So this is what's remarkable about what the Cardinals did. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.440 And everybody wants to talk about Cliff Kingsbury in their offense. Defensively, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.680 they were pretty much the first team to solve the 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.240 San Francisco run game puzzle. Now, certainly it's a little 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.920 bit easier without use check in there, but it's still dynamic. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.360 Just asked my fantasy football team that had to play 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.559 Tevin Coleman last week when he off for all those touchdowns. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.520 In this game, Tevin Coleman three carries, twelve carries for 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.120 twenty three yards. Matthew Brita also struggling to get going. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.680 But this is where the forty Niners really can be dangerous. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.680 I asked that question I think last week about Okay, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.520 can the forty Niners win when they can't run. Now, 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.960 they weren't playing from behind per se in this game, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.120 but when they needed Jimmy Garoppolo to be the quarterback, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.560 to be the leader, to be there, the centerpiece of 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.559 that offense, he came through. And as we were walking 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.319 in here, I believe it was Matthew Arvin, our valued producer, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.640 who mentioned eighteen and two now for Garoppolo as a 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.920 starting quarterback. I think that just saw that. You saw 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.000 the standard in there. I thought the Cardinals played a 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.360 tremendous football game. I think the San Francisco forty Niners 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.120 are a tremendous team. And when that team stays together 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.040 and doesn't turn over the football, even if you don't 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.520 have the best aspect of your offense, you're still going 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.719 to find a way to victory. Yeah. Well, the San 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:00.200 Francisco forty Niners are eight. No, they remain the only 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.640 undefeated team in the NFC to this point. Looking at 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.600 the NFC North, interestingly, as we had talked about last week, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.439 the Minnesota Vikings now head to Arrowhead Stadium and to 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.199 play the Kansas City Chiefs one week after the Packers did. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.360 I think this is going to be a really interesting matchup. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.120 I will admit I haven't been paying attention to any 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.160 of the talk of whether Mahomes is going to come 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.440 back this week or if they're still sticking with Matt Moore. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.240 Have you heard anything what the Chiefs are doing. What 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.320 is funny about this is that it's your last week. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.760 Packer fans are all like, and I've seen an inbox 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.880 a little bit. I've seen it definitely on Twitter. Packer 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.640 fans are like, how could you ever consider playing Patrick 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.880 Mahomes on nine days after this injury? And then all 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.320 week this week it's been why isn't a full participant, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.760 Come on, get out there and play. Shoot, I'm out there. Uh, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.040 he's still limited and at the time in which we're 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.040 taping this, we still don't have an update. The reports 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.200 have been that they're looking more at the Titans game 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.360 as far as when he's going to be back. But 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.200 but it's which is kind of what the original projection was, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.800 you know. Anyway, So yeah, I'm sure there's a lot 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.000 of Packer fans. I want to see Patrick Mahomes, But 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.560 as my brother in law made me wear last week, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.560 I mean, Matt Moore. If there's any silver lining to 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.160 what Kansas City did against Green Bay's defenses that Matt 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.760 Moore looked fine, looked like he can handle this thing. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.400 We'll see what the Minnesota Vikings are able to come 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.480 up with. But the big challenge I think for Minnesota 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.200 in this game is they have a lot of experience. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.480 How does that match up with Kansas City speed because 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.400 there's a lot of it in this whole week is 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.600 very interesting because you were just talking about why this 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.560 game matters so much for green for you know, almost 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.720 at San Diego the Chargers on Sunday. I've been struggling 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.840 with that all week by because if you win in 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.840 Minnesota beats Kansas City, if if Oakland you know, comes through, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.440 or you know, if Goldland gets beat by Detroit, however 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.120 this puzzle shuffles out, the Charges could be right back 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.640 in this race. So for Kansas City, there's an urgency 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.760 there because it's like you want to be able to 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.120 main tame this lead over. I think what a lot 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.840 of people expected going into the season to be relative, 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.720 you know, a bottom feeder in Oakland with all the 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.840 stuff they had going on there in a team in 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:12.680 Kansas City that you kind of had their numbers. So 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.160 this is a very important week for the NFC North 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.600 and for that a f C West in which teams 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.440 could prevail and in what the byproduct and meaning of 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.080 those games could be. Yeah, well you mentioned Oakland is 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.520 taking on the Detroit Lions. The Chicago Bears talk about 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.400 heading into a gut check type of game. Here they 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.240 go to Philadelphia. The Eagles coming off of a big 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.120 win on the road at Buffalo, a Buffalo team that 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.520 had only lost one game until last week. The Eagles 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.000 get themselves back to five hundred at the midway point 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.480 at four and four, they're playing at home, and again 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.000 I'm sure the Eagles are looking at that win over 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.000 Buffalo as this is our takeoff moment. This is where 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.280 we start to go. And the Bears are up against it. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.240 Here there are three and four. They see where the 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.720 Vikings are, they see where the Packers are, and the 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.840 Bears are trying to get to that even four and 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.440 for that level spot halfway through their season to see 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.520 where it goes. This is what I love about. Uh, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.199 the f C East right now. Um Philadelphia, who just 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.040 everything's been going wrong for them. Uh, they go up 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.359 against Buffalo and basically take it to the Bills. For 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.479 the most part. It kind of reminded me like when 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.720 you get like those middling sort of SEC teams and 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.480 they have to take on like I don't know, one 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.600 of the Top and the Sun Belt or something like that, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.679 and they just they just take it to them. They 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.239 get their victory. I think Philadelphia reminded everybody, even though 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.159 they've been very up and down, and they got it. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.280 If they're gonna make a playoff run here, they have 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.320 to be able to find some kind of winning streak. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.880 They can't be, you know, matching win for loss. Yeah, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.600 you're not going to make the playoffs in the NFC 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.200 at nine and seven. I just don't see that happening 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:52.960 the way things are going right now. Yeah. So, I 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.160 mean this is a huge game for them. I mean, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.440 with where Chicago season is headed, the issues that they're 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.160 having um, and I think the way that Philadelphia defends 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.040 the run. Even though David Montgomery had that big game 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.600 last week, I look at this as a matchup that 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.160 Philadelphia should win, and they really definitely need to win 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.920 if they're going to actually keep themselves in the conversation, 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.879 you're not only just for playoff spots or being in 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.560 the lead of the division or any of those kind 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.879 of things, just to show that, okay, we're still a 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.000 championship type contender here we weren't, you know, sort of 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.960 that that spark, that that flash in the pan that 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.600 we can actually be a team that rises above. And 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.200 for Chicago, I mean, this is the ultimate gut check 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.080 because that, by by all accounts, was there. That's the 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.159 most demoralizing loss of their season so far. Now you've 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.600 got to go into you know, Lincoln Financial and try 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.520 to you know, turn the course of your season. Yeah. Well, 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.560 it's a rematch of the NFC wild Card game from 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.159 a year ago in the other stadium, and it's just 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.000 interesting that obviously with the miss by Cody Parkey at 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.560 the end of that game, and now the Bears are 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.080 going into this playoff rematch with their new kicker having 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.119 just missed a field goal on the last play of 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.240 the game the week before. So a lot to try 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.360 to sort out there. Anything else on the Week nine 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.400 slate you think is worth mentioning right now? I mean, 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.760 there's just a total barn burner going on in Miami 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.920 between the Jets and the Dolphins in the Adam Gaze Bowl. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.879 Uh No, there's some great matchups here. Uh, there's this 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.679 storyline now that's developing with the Jaguars where you know 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.040 Nick Foles could potention to be back here soon. Yeah, 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.480 Gardner Minshew has been not only a really good quarterback, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:31.960 but as I was looking at one of the things 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.800