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Speaker 1: in place of Steve Tasker, who is out vacationing. Steve

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Speaker 1: will be back next Monday. Brownie, good afternoon. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: used to having you out of here. Now you are okay? Comfortable? Yeah? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Sure? Let's do it someday, let's move.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind these days? Anything besides the NFL

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Speaker 1: Before you want to dive right into the bills, I

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Speaker 1: have nothing anything but well no, not really. Um My

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. Today. We have not heard from Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: pressure will increase on Houston to make a deal if

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Speaker 1: the holdout continues. We'll see. I think it's unlikely. Chris said,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to rule anything out, especially with the Bills

427
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Speaker 1: team that has shown a propensity to surprise us from

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Speaker 1: time to time. But I really don't see that. They

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Speaker 1: don't see that being an option for the Bills in

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Speaker 1: terms of what that contract might do to the rest

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Speaker 1: of their roster. Butch on the line from Buffalo, Hello,

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Speaker 1: but you go ahead, you're on the air, John, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for thinking about called Chris. Is so good to hear

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Speaker 1: your voice. Chris is always you, always doing a good job. Anyway. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I just I just really want to just touch baits

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Speaker 1: with John. Has been a long time since I spoke

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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, get in, but I just can't get

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Speaker 1: in there. But two things. First of all, I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to Chris. Chris, a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: he spoke about the offensive linement and how popular Buffalo

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Speaker 1: is with the offensive alignment, and you know he was

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Speaker 1: biggest suggestions of the reason why we're so known for

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Speaker 1: having an offensive linement. Let me just share this with

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Speaker 1: you. You You already know you very smart and very intelligent,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna add something to that. Bubbo has always

446
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Speaker 1: been a running back Thompson's looky lookye there goes Cookie.

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Speaker 1: I would say good offensive linement. When oj came, we

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Speaker 1: had John Joe de Line, little Reggie McKenzie, When Joe

449
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Speaker 1: Chris came, we had Kim Jones and other different offensive

450
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Speaker 1: linement there when you when last year with Derman came,

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Speaker 1: he at House Ballot and a whole bunch of with

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Speaker 1: Ken Hole and everybody. So we are always a running

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Speaker 1: back to town. We are, so we're always going to

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Speaker 1: have good running, good offensive line because they have to run.

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Speaker 1: Last year we suffered from that. We had like an

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Speaker 1: offensive line that didn't really know what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: This share, I think we're going to be outstanding. But

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Speaker 1: moving forward to your topic of what you stated, but

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Speaker 1: who's going to be the best rookie or a rookie

460
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Speaker 1: fires on the challenge? I really believe you had a

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Speaker 1: guy on a light yesterday on television from North Carolina

462
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Speaker 1: A and C, which is a good school. My cousin

463
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Speaker 1: graduated from the the Aggies. But at the same time,

464
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Speaker 1: this young man is going to come in and be

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Speaker 1: an outside linebacker. That so they asked yesterday, they projected

466
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Speaker 1: me mad after this year, would he get the seat

467
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Speaker 1: wet look out, look out in the future you might

468
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Speaker 1: have a future. I don't know if wegot the guy's name.

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Speaker 1: We just played doing with pages. That's on the NFL

470
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Speaker 1: network now. But you've got a six foot maybe six

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Speaker 1: five sixty six guy on the outside this draft that

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Speaker 1: Brandon being and those guys did. You might not see

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Speaker 1: a lot this year, but I promise you in the

474
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Speaker 1: next two to three year years, you're going to see

475
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Speaker 1: the blossom like a flower. This draft. But you compared

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Speaker 1: him to William mc ginnis. I think that's who he's

477
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Speaker 1: thinking of. Yeah, William McGinnis, John exactly. And I really

478
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Speaker 1: believe this young man who is going to put getting

479
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Speaker 1: that new weight room next door to you, because you

480
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Speaker 1: guys are sitting next to Yeah, put them weights in

481
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Speaker 1: and he's going to be played special teams this year.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be outstanding. But thank you so much guy. Well,

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Speaker 1: Chris and John, you know I love you guys, is

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Speaker 1: all I gotta say that to you, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: talking to you. Has been a long time. Thanks much.

486
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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, good to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Do you, Chris, look at um Darrell Johnson as a

488
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Speaker 1: possible linebacker, an you think, well, I mean, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: rule it out, but I think Brandon Bean, I think

490
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Speaker 1: at the outset said we're gonna start him at defensive end. Yeah. Um,

491
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Speaker 1: this is a kid who's been on the ball his

492
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Speaker 1: entire college career. And I think if you move him

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Speaker 1: off the ball now, with all the responsibilities that the

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Speaker 1: outside linebackers have in this defense, even if you make

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Speaker 1: him a situational pass rusher from that outside linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: I think, give my muddy the waters for him. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's best to probably just keep it simple

498
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Speaker 1: right now for him and let his natural ability take over.

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Speaker 1: And I think you do that by playing him at

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Speaker 1: a familiar position to him and say, go get the

501
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Speaker 1: quarterback at defensive end. He's got a big jump already

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Speaker 1: right to get from right A and T North Caroline,

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Speaker 1: I think you set him up to fail. You set

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Speaker 1: him up to fail if you if you put him

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Speaker 1: an outside linebacker this weekend and beyond. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe if they feel mentally he can

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Speaker 1: handle it, that's a different conversation. But I would put

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Speaker 1: him where you think he has a chance to succeed

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Speaker 1: and help you as a football team, And for me,

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Speaker 1: that's on the edge. He's got a great frame for

511
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Speaker 1: defensive end. He's six foot six, He's still growing into

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Speaker 1: his body. We talked to him yesterday about how he's

513
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Speaker 1: added twenty pounds to his frame. Feels like he's carrying

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Speaker 1: it well. Doesn't feel he's lost any speed as a

515
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, feels he's more explosive with the ad

516
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Speaker 1: and muscle mass on his frame. So that means he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to hold the edge a little bit

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Speaker 1: better and run support. And when you have a body

519
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Speaker 1: type that is that long, you afford yourself a better

520
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Speaker 1: chance of keeping an offensive tackles hands off of your chest.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole idea of the pass rushing defensive end.

522
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Speaker 1: Don't let him get their hands on you. And if

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Speaker 1: you're that long, and I think his arms were thirty

524
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Speaker 1: four and a half inches long, he's got a good

525
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Speaker 1: chance to bend the edge that way and so I

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Speaker 1: would leave him there up on the line. Despite Bush's

527
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Speaker 1: best efforts to lobby for outside linebacker. He's not putting

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Speaker 1: on twenty twenty five pounds if he thinks if he's

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Speaker 1: moving off the ball right, Yeah, he's not gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that he's a space player in

531
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Speaker 1: reverse either. I mean, we haven't really seen it, so

532
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he can or can't do it.

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Speaker 1: But I'd leave him where he is right now too.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for calling. Good to hear from me. We're

535
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Speaker 1: going to hear from Jared Bell when we come back.

536
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Speaker 1: He as a longtime NFL reporter observer working with USA Today.

537
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Speaker 1: He's their NFL columnists. A lot to talk about with

538
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Speaker 1: Jared Bell, and he's coming up next year on the show.

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Speaker 1: Come on back. We're just getting started. One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy

542
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Speaker 1: with Chris Brown, Bills Insider from Buffalo bills dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Chris is in force deep tasker again today, coming to

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Speaker 1: you alive from our One Buffalo studio. Happy to have

545
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Speaker 1: you with us, if you if you listen or watch

546
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Speaker 1: the show yesterday. You heard our Twitter poll yesterday which

547
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Speaker 1: team won the NFL offseason? Eighty three percent? Eighty three

548
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Speaker 1: percent of the twelve hundred respondents said that Cleveland Browns.

549
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Speaker 1: I knew that. I figured that I'd be the winner.

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Speaker 1: But eighty three percent say that Cleveland Browns won the

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Speaker 1: NFL offseason. And this is not why we have our

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Speaker 1: next guest down the year, but it works out well

553
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Speaker 1: because he's written about that, among other things. Happen to

554
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Speaker 1: have USA Today Sports NFL columnist Jared Bell with us

555
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Speaker 1: member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee. Jared,

556
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Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us. Can you hear me? No,

557
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Speaker 1: you cannot. We're gonna get back you in a second.

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Speaker 1: But eighty three percent, Chris, I knew that was going

559
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Speaker 1: to be the I knew that would be the winners

560
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Speaker 1: of the poll too. Lopside, Yeah, right, wasn't it? But

561
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Speaker 1: I mean are we surprised? I mean we look at

562
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Speaker 1: who grabbed all the headlines in the off season, and

563
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Speaker 1: after the Odell Beckham thing happened, the Cleveland Browns twenty

564
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Speaker 1: nineteen season jumped the shark. I mean everybody's like, ah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. People are running around with

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Speaker 1: their hair on fire, like, uh, you know, they're gonna

567
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Speaker 1: take the world over, and I'm just like, well, let's

568
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Speaker 1: hold on here. Yeah, because there's a lot of change

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Speaker 1: that has gone on in Cleveland, both at the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff level and the player level. So to think that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna fit all that together in due course in

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Speaker 1: the span of one offseason and set the league on fire,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. I mean either. And our guests

574
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Speaker 1: wrote about it. He's Jared Bell from USA Today. There

575
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Speaker 1: NFL commods Jared, John Murphy and Chris Brown up here

576
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us, guys. What's happening. How's

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Speaker 1: it going in on an Ota may Day? Yeah, it's

578
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Speaker 1: going well, and you've got our attention. Were what you

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Speaker 1: wrote recently, maybe even today about the Browns. Basically, you say,

580
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Speaker 1: enough enough super Bowl predictions for the Cleveland Browns. They

581
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Speaker 1: are not. They may make the super Bowl, but they're not.

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Speaker 1: Didn't make the Super Bowl, right, definitely, right? No, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Browns haven't won a playoff game since nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: four or something like that. I mean, it's incredible when

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Speaker 1: you think about the hype that has surrounded this team. Now,

586
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: obviously they've made some major moves and there is something

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Speaker 1: to be excited about, especially when you look at Baker

588
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Speaker 1: Mayfield coming in last year and showing what he can do.

589
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Speaker 1: But you know, you've got to you've got to win

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. You gotta make the playoffs. You gotta

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Speaker 1: win a playoff game. Then you can start talking about

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls and all that kind of stuff. Now, granted,

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Speaker 1: it's not everybody in the entire building who is saying

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Speaker 1: these things, but I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: buying into the hype, and maybe a lot of people

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Speaker 1: on the inside. I mean, for crying out a low

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Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens hasn't even coached the game yet as a

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Speaker 1: head coach, so well, and the most visible guy said

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be the next Patriots. That doesn't help either.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what a bad choice of words, right,

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Speaker 1: because hey, the Bills want to be the next Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be Um New England. You know a

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Speaker 1: team that's won you know, so many super Bowls, six

604
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Speaker 1: of them in counting, or six as we count, but um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to kind of throw it out there like it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's something that's that you can bank on. I think

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Speaker 1: that's that's a bit irresponsible. And the thing with Beckham Jr. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Dave Gettlman, the Giants general manager, has been on

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Speaker 1: record saying that the culture is now better with Beckham

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Speaker 1: being out of the building. Now, you know, that's a

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Speaker 1: tough one because we know Beckham is you know, enormously talented, right,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen passionate players come and go all the time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: sometimes that what you need, you need a guy with

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Speaker 1: some fire. But it's a fine line, it really is.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that we're gonna find

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Speaker 1: out in Cleveland in terms of, you know, what the

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Speaker 1: culture will be, how Odell Beckham Junior will be within

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Speaker 1: that culture, and most importantly, what kind of chemistry are

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Speaker 1: they going to have? Well, you know, Jared, we talked

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Speaker 1: about the link yesterday on our show here when eighty

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Speaker 1: three percent of respondence to our poll said the Browns

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Speaker 1: one of the offseason. The onness really is on Freddie Kitchens,

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Speaker 1: first year head coach, to keep that group together. That's

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Speaker 1: not going to be easy. I wouldn't think huh no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talk about you know, some pressure. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: the best kind of pressure you can have if you're

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Speaker 1: a new coach and you're unproven, is to have expectations.

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Speaker 1: But it's a double D sword because you know what

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Speaker 1: if the Browns finished eight and eight, which would be

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Speaker 1: better than last year, or nine and seven or ten,

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Speaker 1: and you know what if they they improve and they

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Speaker 1: have a winning record but they don't go far in

633
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, is it disappointment? Of course not. But when

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Speaker 1: you've got the expectations set the way they are. And Kitchens,

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Speaker 1: by the way, has been one not sideway from saying, hey,

636
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: we want to go to the super Bowl. And I

637
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: get it, that's what you're in this business for, to

638
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: win championships. But yeah, I think he's got a little

639
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: bit of heat for the for the good reason really,

640
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: in terms of knowing that the team has some talent,

641
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: better talent and now it's on him to put it

642
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: all together. So, you know, just to switch gears a

643
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, there's another team that's trying to

644
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: turn things around in terms of the Raiders, and there

645
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: was some interesting stuff on them in Mike Mayock's draft

646
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: decisions and how they're moved to Vegas kind of weighed

647
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: into that. I was kind of a little bit stunned

648
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: by that, quite frankly, what what like can your shit

649
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: on that? Yeah, I mean they're a year away from

650
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: going to Las Vegas, so this time next year, assuming

651
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: that they'll have the place to practice there in the offseason,

652
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: they'll be in Vegas. And yeah, it was interested that

653
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: Mayok and gruten Um you know, acknowledged it. During the draft.

654
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: I spent the draft weekend in Oakland at the Raiders headquarters,

655
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: so I got to talk to people there and got

656
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: to you know, be there for the you know, the

657
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: three first round picks and got to pretty much here

658
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: everything that they said. And I think they kind of

659
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: broached the subject. In fact, they brought it up in

660
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: their first press conference and then and they were trying

661
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: to you know, connect the dots on all of their

662
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: first round picks, starting with Colin Farrell. And we can

663
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: talk about him in a quick second. But the thing

664
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: that they said they wanted to get, you know, was

665
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: a collection of mature guys, a collection of guys who

666
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: could be leaders and foundation players. Now, some people Raiders

667
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: fans will tell you that was Comleo mac right. He

668
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: was that guy and you guys know him Buffalo, right,

669
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, you know, really the type of guy you

670
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: want in your locker room. But anyway, in that vein,

671
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: they talked about Las Vegas and they're saying, hey, you know,

672
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: we asked everybody we talked to during this whole draft

673
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: process if you know the Las Vegas strip is going

674
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: to be a problem, and all of them told us no.

675
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: And it was kind of funny because I think may

676
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I threw the number. He said they interviewed like one

677
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve players, and one hundred and twelve players

678
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: lie to them. But that does give you an idea

679
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: about their mindset. They're thinking, you know, long term. I

680
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's it's it's crazy that they would want

681
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: to know if they've got guys that can can handle that,

682
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: you know environment. But you know, you're gonna want to

683
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: know if guys are going to be able to be

684
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: mature anyway in any city Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh, La Dallas,

685
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Miami or Vegas. I mean, it's out of the same deal.

686
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: You want guys that you know are going to They

687
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: don't want centers in Sin City do the right thing. Yeah,

688
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: you don't want centers in Sin City. I mean, that's yeah,

689
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: they will be tested though, no doubt. And you know,

690
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: but here's the deal with their draft. When you think

691
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: about the players that they took in the first round,

692
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: and I mentioned they had three first round picks, including

693
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Speaker 1: Colin Farrell, who a lot of people thought was pegged

694
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: for maybe the second half of the first round, you know,

695
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: anywhere from say seventeen to twenty two in that range,

696
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: and the Raiders take them at number four. Well, this

697
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: really may define Mike Mayhawk's era, or at least the

698
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: direction that it's going to go when we look at

699
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: what happens with this pick, because you guys, know, everybody

700
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: talked about how great of a defensive draft this was. Okay,

701
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Okay, granted that exciting quarterback, but in terms

702
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: of the depth in the first round and the pas

703
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: ass rushers and the front seven guys, this was supposed

704
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: to be the year that you want to get a

705
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: stud player, and the Bills have one and Ed Oliver

706
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: at nine. Okay, if he turns out to be what

707
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: everybody thinks he can be, so forth. But the big question,

708
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: now we're gonna be able to compare these picks we're

709
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna be able to look back one day and look

710
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: at Mike Mayo's pick and the forty nine is in

711
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Bosa and quinnin Williams and Josh all of these picks,

712
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to really compare. Now, it

713
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: can be difficult to compare all of these cases apples

714
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: to apples, because sometimes it depends on who you're playing with, etc.

715
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Et cetera. But we will have an idea before too long.

716
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: If the Raiders blew it by not taking say Ed

717
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Oliver or Josh Allen, not to your quarterback Josh Allen,

718
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: but the other one, and taking Colin Farrell. Now, they

719
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: thought Colin Farrell was the guy on Clemson's D line,

720
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and they had three first round picks from Clemson's D line.

721
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: So we'll be able compare with that too. Did you

722
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: get the right Clemson guy? But I think that's gonna

723
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: be one of the intriguing plot lines if you will

724
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: to kind of follow in the years, you know, from

725
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: this draft with Jared Bell, who covers the NFL longtime

726
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: NFL coultonists for USA Today's Sports. And Jared, and speaking

727
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: of comparisons, can you do me a favor and compare

728
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: the little closer to Buffalo the AFC East teams. Who

729
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: did what? Who? Who improved you think with the additions

730
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: they made both free agents and draft picks over the

731
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: last couple of months here. Yeah, it's funny because when

732
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: you say, you know who improved the Patriots, for example,

733
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: you know that team, right They may only add a

734
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: couple of three guys here and there, but it always

735
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: seems like they've got guys in those right spots. So

736
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: we'll just kind of put them in a separate category

737
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: because they still have Tom Brady right right. But I

738
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: like what Buffalo has done. I mean, I think the Jets.

739
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, obviously, with Levian Bell, you expect him to

740
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: be a bit time back, but you know, you expect

741
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy to be a big time back too. But

742
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: guess what I really wonder about, you know, how well

743
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: Levian Bell will perform behind the New York Jets offensive line.

744
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: And I know they've done some things in the offseason

745
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: to try to fix it, and they got as similar

746
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: from Oakland. But Pittsburgh has one of the best offensive

747
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: lines in football, and it's been that way for you know,

748
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: three to five years. Especially the job that Mike Munchak

749
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: did with him, And so you're going to lose that.

750
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: So Levian Bell may still be the same player and

751
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: as good as he was before he sat out, he

752
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: may not have lost anything, or he may still be

753
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: the same player. But now you're in a total different

754
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: system with a different offensive line, and that's going to

755
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: be real interesting. And he can cause Shady McCoy and

756
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: ask him about that if you want, because I saw

757
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Mark Gone's story in the Buffalo News this week and

758
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: he talked about how what like on half that carries

759
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: Lashan McCoy was hit like within a yard from the

760
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So that just tells you not a

761
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of holes there, right, And if you think back

762
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: to Levian Bell and how he played in Pittsburgh and

763
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: how he was able to be patient and and you know,

764
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: really have that as part of his running style, his

765
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, did major work for him. So

766
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: he won't get that with the Jets. Um Now, how

767
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: would that affect what he can do as a receiver.

768
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: All of that, I think it all kind of plays

769
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: into it because if you got Antonio Brown on the

770
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: outside dictating coverage and all of that that can help you.

771
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: So so Levian Bell may be just as good as

772
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: he was, but different situations. So I'm curious about that

773
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: with the Jet with the Jets, I'm really interested to

774
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: see how all this stuff that Buffalo's done in the

775
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: offseason with his offense is going to work out. And

776
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: I know you guys are too, because you know, kudos

777
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: to them for saying, we've got to support Josh Allen

778
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: and get him weapons and build it up around him.

779
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: And look at the moves they made and you know,

780
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: rebuilding the offensive line. I mentioned that about Shady McCoy.

781
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna have like a pretty much an entire new

782
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: offensive line. Now, the question is how fast can that

783
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: come together? Because typically when you talk about units, the

784
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: offensive line is the is the unit that takes the

785
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: longest to develop chemistry and to jael and to grow together.

786
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: So these guys may be talented, obviously they brought them

787
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: all in for a reason, but you're gonna have to

788
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: have a little bit of patience. But then again, if

789
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: you're better than you were last year, then you're still

790
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. But you know, you look at

791
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: all the dry passes that kind of plagued the offense

792
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: last year. Now you add a couple of guys like

793
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: like Cole Beasley, a shorthanded guy, Josh Brown, I mean

794
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: John Brown. You know you've got to be excited about

795
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: some of that. But you know, the Bills have you

796
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: have to look at Miami and the Jets and figure

797
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: they're in a three team race to see if one

798
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: of those teams can can crack through and and get

799
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: second place, and then you get a wildcard birth out

800
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: of it. Probably. So yeah, So, Jared, the rookies coming

801
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: in here for the Bills this weekend for their rookie

802
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: mini camp, and I know you kind of wrote what

803
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: kind of amounted to an open letter to NFL rookies,

804
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, in your column and saying NFL really means

805
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: not for long. Are you still stunned with all the

806
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: pre draft prep that rookies go through, whether they're counseled

807
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: by their agents on how to answer questions and interview settings,

808
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: to training the proper way, that there are still rookies

809
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: that come into the league, you know, rookie symposiums, all

810
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: this stuff that just the lights are on, but nobody's

811
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: home and they don't know the statistics of the attrition

812
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: of this league and how it will cheer you up

813
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: and spit you out. Are you still surprised in twenty

814
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: nineteen that there are rookies that don't know a lot

815
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you laid out in that column. Yeah, yeah,

816
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: I do. I'm a bit stunned, But I'm not stunned

817
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people only see themselves the

818
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: way they want to see them and and so reality

819
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: doesn't always hit people. And a lot of times I

820
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: remember doing a story on the you know, the financial

821
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: management of football players, which you can you know, I

822
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: hate to pick on them, but I cover football. But

823
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: you can say that about a lot of people in

824
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: a lot of you know areas. But one of the

825
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: things that happened, that was one of the pitfalls with

826
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys is that you know, they

827
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: never thought that things could happen to them. You know,

828
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: you hear the warnings. Now you can say that to

829
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot about a lot of teenagers who don't play football.

830
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, you try to tell people things and they

831
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: almost have to learn it for themselves. So there's some

832
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: of that. And then you know, I think there's a

833
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's a big jump to being a professional.

834
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about these guys who are in

835
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: this position, they've been pretty much the best player or

836
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: one of the best players on their team in college,

837
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: in high school, in Pop Warner, and now you get

838
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: to a situation where the competition is just so much better,

839
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and so you have to be able to thrive in

840
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: that environment. There are all sorts of pressures there because

841
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, I've had a personnel person tell me one

842
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: time that one of the toughest things to judge about

843
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: a player as you're evaluating him for the draft is

844
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: how he's going to act and how he's going to

845
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: carry himself professionally speaking, but in other ways as well

846
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: when he has money in his pocket. So even you know,

847
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: when you talk about rookies who don't make the money

848
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: that you know proven veterans making the NFL, but compared

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Speaker 1: to you with me, it's still a pretty good turn

850
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: of change, right, And so guys have not had this before.

851
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: They've been playing for free all their lives, and so

852
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: they still have to be able to be professional, have

853
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: the same work ethic, not really get who carried away

854
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: with all of the distractions and whatnot. And I just

855
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: think that's a challenge. It's so maturity is it's probably

856
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: a better word than just to say these guys are

857
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, ignorant and you know blind about things. Yeah,

858
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: it's it's a learning process. And you know, most guys

859
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: who last ten years in the NFL. I remember having

860
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Speaker 1: this conversation with Warren Sapp one time. You know, you

861
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: think about if you can last that long, how much

862
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Speaker 1: more you know by the time you get to ten

863
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: years versus when you're a rookie. But yeah, it's a

864
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: learning curve. And most of these guys are not going

865
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Speaker 1: to be around and say, you know, two or three years,

866
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of them won't even be around next year. Yeah. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's great advice. Jared, always learn a lot from reading

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Speaker 1: your stuff. On USA Today, We thank you for spending

869
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Speaker 1: a few minutes with this yeries this morning. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys having me. Man have a good one,

871
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: have a good mini caap. Thank you. Jured bell is

872
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Speaker 1: USA Today's Sports and fell Columness, longtime NFL writer, joining

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Speaker 1: us on the line. I said, this morning, it's afternoon.

874
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Speaker 1: Why did I say, yeah when he said that about

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Speaker 1: young players sometimes don't listen, you and I as parents.

876
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Speaker 1: You have younger children than I do, But did you

877
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: kind of say yes, I know exactly that feeling. I

878
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: think we do a little bit, a little bit. We're

879
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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We're coming back One Bill's Live

880
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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

881
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. We got Chris

882
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Brown sitting in for Steve Tasker again today. Happy to

883
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: have you in the audience as well, whether it's on

884
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Speaker 1: the radio side and our flagship in Buffalo WGR Sports

885
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Speaker 1: Radio five fifty or on TV on MSG. Thanks for

886
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: tuning in. Good conversation there with Jared Bill. I have

887
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: good things to say. Our conversation today deals with the

888
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Speaker 1: Bill's rookies. They'll be in tomorrow, get on the field

889
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Speaker 1: on Friday. I don't know from you which Bill's rookie

890
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: faces the toughest competence mission And you can interpret that

891
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: anyway you like, whether it's competition for playing time, starting job,

892
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: just to spot on the fifty three man roster, whatever.

893
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Speaker 1: Who do you think the rookie I mean, look, they're

894
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: all looking at an uphill climb and once you get

895
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Speaker 1: past the third maybe the third fourth round. Um, they're

896
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: gonna have to They're gonna have to hump to get

897
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Speaker 1: on the roster, right, I mean we can accept that.

898
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, what are they doing? What I'm talking about?

899
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: They gotta make some Hey, how about we go with

900
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: that and stakes? I know if I well, I like

901
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: it better than your description. There are we doing to

902
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: make the roster here? I didn't know they're gonna have

903
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: to work over our circumstances. Don't interpret that, but well

904
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Speaker 1: I did. I obviously have an issue which rookie. I

905
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: think it's Uh. I think it's Devin Singletary, the third

906
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Speaker 1: round draft pick. Chris, Did you have a what did

907
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: you settle on? You were down to? I was down on, Yeah,

908
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Jaquan Johnson because he's got two and trend starters in

909
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: front of him, and a veteran arguably third safety. And

910
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Speaker 1: Raphael Bush, who I think availed himself quite well last

911
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: year in his first year in Buffalo. I know he

912
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: certainly impressed the coaching staff coming out of training camp

913
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Speaker 1: in the preseason last year. I think they felt they

914
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Speaker 1: they got more than even they had hoped to get

915
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Speaker 1: from a veteran reserve safety and Raphael Bush. Granted he

916
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Speaker 1: was pressed into action, probably in a role that he

917
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: wasn't ideally suited for when he had to play some

918
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: nickel corner because they quite frankly didn't have anybody else

919
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: due to injury. But you know, those are three guys

920
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Speaker 1: that Jakwan Johnson has to deal with now. Ringing in

921
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: my ears is the comment that had Read made on

922
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Speaker 1: the show last week when he said, the Bill's got

923
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Speaker 1: a steal in the sixth round with this kid, and

924
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: I think he is a ball hawking kind of safety

925
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: and that's going to draw eyeballs and attention and consideration

926
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Speaker 1: on the part of this defensive coaching staff which is

927
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Speaker 1: looking to boost those takeaway numbers. Not to take anything

928
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Speaker 1: away from the takeaway ability of Jordan Player or Micah Hide.

929
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Speaker 1: But I think in the end he has a roster spot.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that he finds his way onto

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Speaker 1: the field anytime soon as a rookie, i'l with the

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Speaker 1: exception of Special Team, so I think he has a

933
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Speaker 1: very big uphill battle, which Bills rookie faces the toughest competition.

934
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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear your thoughts on that on the

935
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Speaker 1: phone lines. Eighth three five fifty and toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. They got a tweet in from Joe d.

938
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Speaker 1: With all the lineman added through free agency, everyone thinks

939
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: Cody Ford has a cake walk to be the starting tackle.

940
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: The funny thing is these guys we added all want

941
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: to start, and most were told that if they earn it,

942
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Speaker 1: it's theirs. I could see a huge competition on the

943
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Speaker 1: old line. Yeah. I don't think it's a cake walk

944
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Speaker 1: for Cody Ford. Away. He wasn't guaranteed even a starting spot.

945
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Speaker 1: He was told that he would start practice anyway as

946
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Speaker 1: a right tackle, not start like start starting lineup, but

947
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Speaker 1: he will start his work at right tackle. And here's

948
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Speaker 1: the thing to consider also, this is a coaching staff

949
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Speaker 1: that is not putting much stock at all, at least

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Speaker 1: historically they haven't. And what you've done in the past,

951
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Speaker 1: whether it's college or in the NFL. At the same time,

952
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: name recognition or being a household name in this league

953
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean one thing to his coaching staff. What counts

954
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: for them is what you do on the field. And

955
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Speaker 1: if you watch Tie and Secky' State in Washington, when

956
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: he started. It's pretty darn impressive. I mean we've we've

957
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: talked about it on this show. How well he handled

958
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. I mean he threw him to the ground

959
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: a couple of times. That's a six five, two hundred

960
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: ninety pound man child and tie and Secki's throwing him

961
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Speaker 1: around like a rag doll on a couple of plays.

962
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: That doesn't. That doesn't. That's not something that they're just

963
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna sneeze at. If he can duplicate that kind of

964
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: performance on the field, then Cody Ford's got a position

965
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: battle in front of him. And I don't think we

966
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: should just outrightly dismiss lay Adrian Waddle because you know,

967
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: he was largely a reserve tackle in New England. I mean,

968
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: this is a guy that's coming from a premier program

969
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL and knows how to play this game,

970
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: knows how to read defenses, knows how to game plan

971
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: himself and scout, you know, opposing defensive ends. So I

972
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: don't think he can be dismissed from the mix either.

973
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: So you roll all that together and suddenly Cody Ford's

974
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: path to a starting role I think is far from

975
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: a lock and the Twitter participant there, Joe d points

976
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: to a position group that has got plenty of body.

977
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would think offensive line. It's obviously something

978
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: to watch, as he says, I can see a huge

979
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: competition on the offensive line for sure. But I mean

980
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: there's just no shortage of candidates. Whoever winds up as

981
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: the starter is gonna have to survive, you know, a lot,

982
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: because there's just bodies all over the place on the

983
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. And just because you win that starting job

984
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: going into week one, if you struggle for a couple

985
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: of weeks, they got somebody they're ready to put in there.

986
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: If the competition's close, somebody wins that competition by an eyelash,

987
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: and that guy struggles the first two weeks against the

988
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Giants and the Jets, there could be somebody else new

989
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: in there come week three. So even if you win

990
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: the job coming out of the preseason, you better keep

991
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: playing because there's guys chomping at the bit to get

992
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: in there and get a crack at it and turn

993
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: you into Wally Pip. So you know you better be

994
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: bringing it every single week. Ye all right, we're gonna

995
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: talk more about that particular question which rookie faces the

996
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: tough competition. The rookies are in tomorrow. The veterans have

997
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: been here. We've got one standing body to join us

998
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: here in studio in just a minute. Cam Phillips, wide receiver,

999
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: was in that rookie spot last year. Now he's here

1000
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: as a one year veteran getting into his second year.

1001
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about that and his road to

1002
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: the NFL when we return. John Murphy and Chris Brown

1003
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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1004
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network. Story update from One

1005
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: Bills Drive where the Buffalo Bills are wrapped up today's

1006
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: version of their offseason conditioning workouts that'll continue on for

1007
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: another week or two. The rookies report here tomorrow late

1008
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow and on the field Friday, Saturday, Sunday for the

1009
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: Bills three day Rookie Weekend MINIKEMP that's coming up starting

1010
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: Friday on the field around the NFL. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1011
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: defenseman Jason bier Paul suffered a potentially season ending fractured

1012
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: neck in a single car crash in South Florida last

1013
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: According to league sources, he's thirty years old. He will

1014
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: likely need surgery. He'll visit with next specialists at some

1015
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: point this week to get their opinions with the hope

1016
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: that a portion of the season can be saved. Lal

1017
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Powell has let the league know. He sent a letter

1018
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: out today that he's been fully cleared from his neck injury,

1019
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: which once was thought to threaten his career. Powell spent

1020
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: eight seasons with the Jets as a running back. He

1021
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: is healthy after suffering the injury in Week seven, last

1022
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: week or last year. He says he's looking forward to

1023
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: getting back to work. The Patriots signed a veteran offensive

1024
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: lineman over the last few days. Jared Veldier signed a

1025
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: one year contract. The signing anticipated since Veldier visited with

1026
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: the Patriots last week, expected to come after the compensatory

1027
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: pick deadline. Sean McVay says he overprepared for the Super Bowl.

1028
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: He admits that he fell victim to one of his

1029
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: strongest attributes, watching too much video and overanalyzing his opponents

1030
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: ahead of the Super Bowl last February. Of course, the

1031
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams lost that game to the New England Patriots.

1032
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: McVay says he overprepared for that Standy Cup playoffs one

1033
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: game tonight. It is Game seven out West in the

1034
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: second round, Game seven of the Colorado San Jose series,

1035
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: all tied up at three wins apiece. They'll face off

1036
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock tonight. The Boston Bruins opened the Eastern

1037
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: Conference Finals against Carolina tomorrow at home, but Boston defenseman

1038
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: Charlie McAvoy will not be playing. He's been suspended for

1039
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: one playoff game by the NHL for an illegal check

1040
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: to the head of Blue Jackets where Josh Anderson, the

1041
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: first time McAvoy has been fined or suspended in his

1042
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: two year NHL career. And Mike Fires had a no

1043
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: hitter last night, his second career no hitter for a

1044
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: last night, and opens a win over Cincinnati two to nothing.

1045
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Speaker 1: That's the update from one Bill Strive. Did you watch

1046
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: that no hitter? I did not. I just saw I

1047
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: saw it on the recap in the highlights. We're just

1048
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: talking about second one. Yeah, we're just talking about it.

1049
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: You know. It's almost as rare and special as a

1050
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: no hitter these days, A complete game if you never

1051
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: get anymore. Yeah, we got a special guest on the

1052
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: set with us here. Happy to have him with us.

1053
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: He's going into his second year with the Buffalo Bills

1054
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: as a receiver. Happy to have Cam Phillips in studio

1055
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: with us. Hello, Cam, coming by. We appreciate it, how

1056
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Speaker 1: you're doing it. Thank you for having me. Sure, I

1057
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about last season. We'll start

1058
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: with that. Last season right around this time would have

1059
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: been your first exposure here to one Bills drive, right,

1060
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: So how far have you come since then? Do you think? Um,

1061
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: I think I've came, you know, really really far. You know,

1062
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: just going through the experience of you know, the undrafted route.

1063
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little a little unexpected, and you know,

1064
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: getting my first taste of the NFL and you know

1065
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: how things work here, you know, especially here in Buffalo,

1066
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: which I feel is different, you know from other places.

1067
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: But you know, all and all, that's been great. What

1068
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: would be your advice to the undrafted kids rolling in

1069
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: this week for rookie minicamp? What would you be telling

1070
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: them right now based on what you experienced at this

1071
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: time last year? Yeah, it's easy, you know, with the

1072
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: position that they're in too, you know, kind of make

1073
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: a bigger deal out of it, you know, it kind

1074
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: of being you know, kind of one chance. You know

1075
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: how how fast turnover is in the league, but just

1076
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, sort of enjoy it. Um, you know, don't

1077
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: put too much dress on yourself. But um, you know,

1078
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: just control what you can control. You know, you get

1079
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: one or two reps, you know, in one day whatever,

1080
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: just make it the best reps you can. But in

1081
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: the rookie camp, that's really the chance, the best chance

1082
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: for undrafted guys to get those reps to show what

1083
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: they can do. Because once you get to OTAs and

1084
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: you slide to the back of that depth chart, yeah,

1085
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: you're you're fine. You're getting one two reps of practice.

1086
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, where rookie camp you're probably getting a half

1087
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: a dozen, maybe ten if you're if the if the

1088
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: position group is light on numbers. Did you experience that

1089
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: last spring, Like you're getting some looks, getting some looks

1090
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: in the rookie camp, but then you got to OTAs

1091
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: and maybe you expected it to some degree, but you

1092
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: get to OTAs and it's like where am my reps at?

1093
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Where am I reps at? It's something like that. But

1094
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: I believe the coaches do a good job here of

1095
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, kind of giving those younger guys opportunities with

1096
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: the developmental periods at the end, you know, trying to

1097
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: give them some reps and see how where they retained

1098
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: the plays, you know, the stuff that we learned during

1099
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: the day so long. You know, I think they'll get,

1100
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, their chances to show what they can do

1101
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: with Bill receiver kem Phillips just off the field after

1102
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: today's version of the offseason conditioning program. A year ago,

1103
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: when you came here a couple of weeks after the

1104
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: draft going undrafted, did what was your mindset like? Did

1105
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: you feel like you had a chip out on your shoulder.

1106
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: I got to show the people that they made a

1107
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: mistake not drafted me. Did you expect to be drafted

1108
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: last year? Uh? Definitely. Um, you know I expected, you know,

1109
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: to be drafted. I thought I had a you know,

1110
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: pretty good career, you know in college. You know, I

1111
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: had a surgery and injury which kind of you know,

1112
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: made things go a different way. But um, you know,

1113
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: I think I didn't understand you know, until you know,

1114
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: maybe October September, maybe it's like it's already done, you know,

1115
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: so you can't go back and do it on that

1116
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: you're here right now. You got an opportunity, you know,

1117
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: make the most of you know, each day. And you know,

1118
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: I think my biggest thing was um not proved to

1119
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: the coaches, but more proved to you know, my teammates

1120
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: and other players. You know, like this guy can really

1121
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 1: play and you know, just kind of get their approval.

1122
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: Remember last spring, you know, we're watching the OTAs from

1123
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: the sidelines and there were a few undrafted receivers in

1124
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: the mix there, and there were guys that were flashing early.

1125
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: It was it was basically you and Robert who were

1126
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of you know, maybe not five plays at practice,

1127
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: but one play here, one or two plays there in

1128
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: a practice where there's camp. He stuck behind the defense again.

1129
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: And Robert, you know, his speed on the field is

1130
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: readily apparent. I mean you could not have a trained

1131
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: die for football and see that. But you are kind

1132
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: of like a slippery, kind of sneaky guy. It's like

1133
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: it's almost like people underestimate, how you know, dbs kind

1134
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: of underestimate how quick you're going to get up on them,

1135
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're behind them. How

1136
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: do you kind of have a knack for slipping behind

1137
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: guys when you know maybe that dB might have great

1138
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: hip flip might have a great read on your route concept,

1139
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: but somehow, some way you're behind them all of a sudden.

1140
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: How do you what is the method to your success? Um?

1141
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: I think just paying attention to the small things, you

1142
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: know when you may not have as much you know,

1143
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: just flat out speed as robbed you know, things like

1144
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: many people do. Yeah yeah, but things like you know

1145
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: your stands and start are impouring, or you know, sort

1146
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: of little techniques like when a dB you know, trying

1147
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: to put his hand on your smacking it by. And

1148
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: also you know, just having a good grasp on the

1149
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: offense and what the players trying to achieve here. Um,

1150
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, just understanding that you know, this ball could

1151
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: be coming to me, so you know, I really gotta

1152
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: focus in and make sure I'm doing my part, you know,

1153
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: especially to get an opportunity to get a ball, you know,

1154
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: and you know, show something to these guys with Bill's

1155
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: receiver Cam Phillips, who was busy at work these days

1156
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: in the offseason conditioning program last year was really interesting

1157
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: and a round about what October you finally got a

1158
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: chance to get signed to the active roster, right it

1159
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: was practice squad up until then, you must have done something,

1160
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: shown something during your time in the practice squad to

1161
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: let them think, let's give him a shot, let's try him, right.

1162
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: How were you working through that, you know, first half

1163
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: of the season, so before you were on the active roster. Yeah.

1164
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, set a goal for myself when

1165
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: I actually got signed to the practice squad It was,

1166
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, by week six or seven, I expect to

1167
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: be on an active roster. So, um, you know, I

1168
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: just try to stay consistent in my approach, you know,

1169
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: understanding every day, you know, try to get better at

1170
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: something and you know, don't take these rests for granted.

1171
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: But you're going against the ones. So for myself, I

1172
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: get to really practice, you know, against quality players. Um,

1173
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, so just my consistency and my approach every day,

1174
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: trying to work on a little things like the stands

1175
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: and start and you know, good body language if we

1176
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: have a zone re here, um, you know, catching the

1177
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: ball consistently and you know, just all the things that

1178
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. Um. You know, I think I

1179
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: did that and the coaches saw that. I'm sorry, I

1180
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: was looking back when they brought you up. They put

1181
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: Robert Foster down on the practice squad, right, and THEO

1182
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: and even of course they had a big impact on

1183
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, but the two of

1184
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: you were kind of came in and on a similar

1185
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: path last season, right, a couple of undrafted Yes, sir,

1186
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: we did h You know, I think we got a

1187
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: lot closer. Um. You know, we're really cool and you know,

1188
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 1: talk every day and stuff like that. But just understanding

1189
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: the position that we're in. You know, it's a blessing,

1190
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it could be a curse.

1191
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, you really have to, you know, be mentally

1192
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: tough because your opportunities may not come, you know, like

1193
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: you think they should. But then again, that brings me

1194
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: back to what I learned. You know, you just can't

1195
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: control you know, what the coaches do, how many reps

1196
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: you have, or who else they bring in. You know,

1197
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: you just have to you know, stay the course and

1198
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: just do your part. Now, I have to say, like

1199
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: last year, when the media guy came out and I'm

1200
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: reading up on you because you know you were new

1201
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: to the team, there was one thing in there that

1202
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: troubled me, and it's your pregame ritual. You take your

1203
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: cleats off after warmups and you walk up the tunnel.

1204
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm assuming in just socks, and I'm thinking to myself,

1205
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: outside of kickers, your feet for a receiver, might be

1206
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: the most important part of your body. And you're walking

1207
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: up that time. You don't know what's in that time. Now. Look,

1208
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: the ground's keeping crew here does a great job of

1209
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: keeping the place clear. But you don't know what fans

1210
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 1: you're throwing out there. All you need is one tack

1211
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: to fall off the back of a truck, like, please

1212
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: get some flip flops. You're getting scary doing that, man,

1213
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: Why do you do that? You know, I actually walked

1214
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: to the practice, you know, to the warm up with

1215
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: my clice off, and then I take them off when

1216
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm finished on the back. It's just a mindset thing,

1217
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you're at home, you take your shoes off,

1218
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, kick your feet up, get comfortable. And I

1219
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: think I started in college. It's just you know, try

1220
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: to get the nerves out, you know, just try to

1221
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: relax and uh, you know, get comfortable a little bit,

1222
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: not make it larger than it is. You know, you

1223
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: understand it's an NFL game, But at the same time,

1224
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: you know you're good enough to play here. You're good

1225
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: enough to be here, So just you know, a mindset

1226
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: thing and try to help me relat keep Please just

1227
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: keep your eyes on the ground in front of you.

1228
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't you know, we don't want someone, we don't

1229
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: want to need to see you on the injury report

1230
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: because you stepped on something, you know, on the way

1231
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: to the locker room. That's gonna Please don't do that.

1232
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Keep your eyes on the ground. Got knock on wood.

1233
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: Now he didn't get a chance to play a couple

1234
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: of games. One catch, nine yards. Talk about that, your

1235
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: first NFL catch? What do you remember about that play? Yeah,

1236
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, I remember it's against the Patriots. You know,

1237
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: I just didn't try to do too much. It was

1238
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: actually a shallow cross, you know, so I got it

1239
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: and saw, you know, the area was vacated and linebacker's

1240
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: job the safety drop, so I expected to kind of

1241
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: get it, and you know, I just got it, and

1242
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, try to turn up again north and south.

1243
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: The coaches, you know, don't want you to waste too

1244
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: much time, you know, jitterbugging is what they caught it

1245
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: and juking. So you know, I just try to, you know,

1246
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: do my part and get as many yards as I

1247
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: can understanding the situation, you know, put us in a

1248
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: manageable third down. I just remember your call up was

1249
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: a byproduct of some frustration on the part of the

1250
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: coaching staff. The offense was not in a good place.

1251
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: There were people that were not where they were supposed

1252
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: to be based on some of their assignments. And because

1253
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, you were doing everything to the letter on

1254
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: the practice squad weekend and week out, they said, well,

1255
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: let's give this guy a chance at as we can

1256
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: trust he's going to be in the right place. Um,

1257
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: And that's I think that's an example of what coach

1258
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: McDermott talks about all the time, doing things the right

1259
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: way every day here, whether it's practice, whether you're on

1260
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: the practice squad, whether you're on the active roster, and

1261
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: you were an example that if you do do that,

1262
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: there will be a reward. How did that feel to

1263
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: kind of see that come to fruition because you know,

1264
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: coach coaches talk a lot, but it seems like coach

1265
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: McDermott is true to his word and you were an

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01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: example of that last year. Yeah. Um, you know it

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01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: felt pretty good. You know that that was another step

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01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: that I could take you know, which is you know,

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01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: which was that? And you know, not by any means,

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01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: you know all I hope to accomplish and do, but

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: just me, I think the best compliment you can give,

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01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, a professional is that they're true professional. You know,

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01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: they really take pride in their work and everything that

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01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: they do, you know, with relationship to the job. That's

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, taking your meetings, you know, as serious you

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01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: can take. I'm trying to get everything you can out

1277
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: of that. You know, from your body too. You know

1278
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: how you warm up for practice too. You know how

1279
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: you prepare for practice, and you know I really try

1280
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, I think, you know, that's

1281
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: the biggest compliment anyone can give me is you know,

1282
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm a true professional, and I just try to do that. Kim,

1283
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: your group, your wide receiver group has new leadership, a

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01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: new coach who has been here a couple of years,

1285
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Chad Hall. Tell us about him and how things may

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: have change. You've been here for about a month now

1287
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: for offseason conditioning. I was much changed in that in

1288
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: that meeting room with him. It has it has you know,

1289
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: Chad wasn't assistant last year and he actually helped me

1290
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot, you know, with you know, some nuances

1291
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: and how to approach things and different things to try out,

1292
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: and if I need to help or want to work

1293
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: on something after practice, you know, he'd be there to

1294
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: tell me, you know what this looked like like that,

1295
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: because I'm a real big, you know, feedback guy, like

1296
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: instantly like what did this look like? Do I need

1297
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: to fix this? You know, he did a good job,

1298
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, being there, and I think it's a great

1299
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: hire because, um, Chad is really passionate about, you know,

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01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position at football. So he's one of

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01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: those guys that if you need pictures or anything drawn

1302
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: up to help you understand one play, then he'll be

1303
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: that guy to do that and try to make it

1304
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: as easy as possible for you. And I think, um,

1305
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, just knowing that about him, I think it's

1306
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: great and you know we're gonna be really good played

1307
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah yeah, yeah, that too too. Off

1308
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: the field. You know, you guys were busy earlier this

1309
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: week part of the Inspired Change initiative. You guys were

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01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: at six different locations, uh, trying to create some social

1311
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: change out there and you know, putting up some of

1312
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: your own guys money to support a lot of these causes.

1313
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: Where were which which one of the six locations were

1314
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: you at earlier this week on Tuesday? How was that being? Okay? Yeah, yeah,

1315
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: that's the Buffalo Engineering Parks And I actually had a

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of fun there. I'm I just think, you know,

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: with children, you can do so much with them as

1318
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: far as you know, more in their minds and you know,

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: giving them the confidence and you can either make them

1320
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, break them really. Um So,

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01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: I think just being there and kind of showing them

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: to support and you know, asking about you know, what

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01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: they like and what they want to do. Um Actually,

1324
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: one of one of the guys, his name was Micah,

1325
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: and he was like, I want to be an architect.

1326
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to design, you know, redesign you know, Buffalo Stadium.

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: And I just thought that was so cool, you know,

1328
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: a seven year old saying that. It's just like, you

1329
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: know why I want you you know, why don't we

1330
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: want that, you know as a society community, you know,

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: to just continue to build these guys up so they

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: can do great things, um, you know, regardless of their

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: background and upbringings. Um So, I just think it was

1334
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: great that we can you know, do that and you know,

1335
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: just make these guys smile. We were talking about that

1336
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: program a couple of times on the show this week.

1337
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: How it's it's your money, staff and players money. Uh,

1338
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: with positive involvement. Now you go out there. You can't

1339
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: go out there every day, but just the fact that

1340
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: they know that you care. It's it's just such a

1341
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: great message, especially where it came from. And I mentioned

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: this the other day. It came from you know, a

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when everybody's worried about protests during

1344
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: the anthems and stuff. Well here's some positive change that

1345
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: came out of that. Really. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah,

1346
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: I think, um, you know I said it, man, just

1347
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: whenever you can show someone that you have interests and

1348
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: that you care and you know, just kind of reiterating

1349
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: that they can do it. You know, if you put

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01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: your mind to it, and you know a little help

1351
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: from here and there and just you know, positive reinforcement.

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01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: You know that those guys, you know, have all of

1353
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: the potential in the world. Kim, good luck here. We'll

1354
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: be following along now the next several months and weeks ahead.

1355
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: But thanks coming in here for a few minutes. We

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01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Oh, thank you, thank you. It's my pleasure.

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 1: Ken Phillips, Bill's wide receiver going into his second year,

1358
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: and he's totally involved. You've been there all the time,

1359
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: right for the offseason conditioning business every day, every day.

1360
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: Chris and I are coming back in four in a moment,

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Deal's Live from One Deals Drive, John

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01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: Murphy with Chris Brown in for Steve. The rest of

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Speaker 1: the week, I did. I'll be honest, I'd never met

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Speaker 1: the camp Phillips really a couple of the training camp

1366
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: interviews last year, but never really talked to him until today.

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Speaker 1: I liked the guy, good guy, smart guy. He seems, yeah,

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01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: good handle on what's in front of him, trying to

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: make this roster. And I think what helped him make

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: the roster last year was his consistency catching the football.

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: You know, as I mentioned when I was talking to him,

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Speaker 1: he kind of had this slippery nature to him. Yeah,

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01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 1: see only ran a four six six, but he gets

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: behind defenses. And he got behind this defense in the

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: practice setting a good number of times for big, big

1376
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: plays and coming out of college though his calling card

1377
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: was his catch rate. I think he had. It was

1378
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: one of those PFF metrics. He had the second highest

1379
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: catch rate among wide receivers you know, in the draft

1380
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: pool last year. If it's within his body frame, he's

1381
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: pulling it in. And if you look and sitting next

1382
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: to him, he does not have gigantic hands, you know,

1383
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: like it's not like he's got these big mits where

1384
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: he's just gonna envelope the ball. He just has he's

1385
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: got sticky hands and he's he's gonna pull in just

1386
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 1: about anything that's near him. Uh. And you know, seventeen

1387
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: touchdowns is a tribute to that, I believe. When he

1388
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: left Virginia Tech couple years ago, he left there as

1389
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: the all time receptions leader and yardage reception yards leader.

1390
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: He had a great first team all acc Yeah, as

1391
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: a senior, you know, and in that conference, that's nothing

1392
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: to sneeze. Good camp with the Bills um last summer too. Well, See,

1393
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: we don't talk about him, you know, we go through

1394
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver ranks and who's who's gonna lagne up where,

1395
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: and his name rarely comes up. But he did have

1396
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: a good training camp and a good couple of good

1397
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: preseason moments last year as well. We thank you for

1398
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: coming on with us. Cam Phillips talking about rookies. Cam

1399
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: Phillips not a rookie now he's a second year player.

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Speaker 1: Why don't know from you which rookie on the Bills

1401
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: roster will benefit the most from the veterans in front

1402
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: of him? Is that what we're talking about? Yeah, we

1403
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: can talk about that. Do you want to talk about

1404
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: that that? This is your idea? Yeah? I mean, well

1405
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: I kind of looked. I was looking at the draft

1406
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: class and just about every one of them has kind

1407
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: of a mentor type in front of them, and I'm thinking, well,

1408
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: who's got who's gonna have the best mentor in the room. Well,

1409
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: let's sit in those position rooms. Who's the mentor for

1410
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver first round pick? Well, that's one guy that

1411
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: may not have one, right because that guy's retired. Yeah,

1412
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: in the for McKai Williams. Uh, you know, Star doesn't

1413
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: really play the same position. So how much does that

1414
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: apply Jerry? He was outside too much? Yeah, I don't know,

1415
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: but you know it's a Texas guy and a Texas guy,

1416
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 1: so maybe there's a connection there that he can tap into.

1417
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: But he's one of the few guys on this list

1418
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: that really doesn't have one. Um, Cody Ford, who would

1419
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: be his mentor at his position? And by the way,

1420
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: do you have to be at the position group to

1421
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: be somebody's mentor? No, I don't think it's a I

1422
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's a prerequisite. But I think we know

1423
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: how coach McDermott works here and wants and wants a

1424
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: leader in every room. And you know the leader in

1425
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: every room presumably is helping you know, rookies like these

1426
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: draft choices in terms of getting acclimated, understanding how the

1427
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: league works, understanding maybe how to study film at this level. Um,

1428
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, how to get a get a handle on

1429
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: the guy you're going up against that week. So those

1430
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: are all parts of the equation. Who does Cody Ford

1431
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: look to? Well, I think it's tough only because a

1432
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: lot of the guys that are in front of him

1433
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: were brought in not too much sooner than he right, right,

1434
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: So so as a tie and Zeki, I don't know

1435
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: guys who could be Yeah, okay, Um, the rest of

1436
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: the draft picks, you haven't made the case yet. Chris

1437
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you well, No, I think from here

1438
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: on out it's pretty strong though. I mean, you got

1439
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: better in running backs for him in Frank Or and

1440
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy. I mean two guys that even Singletary himself

1441
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: said he's looking forward to working with, you know, Dawson

1442
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: Knox as Tyler Croft, who's done it in the league before,

1443
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: but Sean Joseph has maybe the best one in the

1444
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: whole locker room. And Lorenzo Alexander, Jaquan Johnson, I mean,

1445
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, Raphael Bush, Jordan Poyer run down the list.

1446
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean you want some guy, somebody to show you

1447
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: the ropes, those are three pretty good guys to talk to.

1448
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson's got Trent Murphy, uh and Jerry Hughes and

1449
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: you know Tommy Sweeney's got the same guy as at

1450
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox has. So I think there's some strong there's

1451
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: a strong veteran presence in some of these positions that

1452
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: could really help these guys, you know, show them the ropes,

1453
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: show them maybe more important than anything, based on our

1454
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: conversation with Jared Bell on what it takes to be

1455
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: a pro, yeah, day in and day out. So you know,

1456
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: if it helps with the learning curve and it helps

1457
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 1: them and give them a better opportunity is sticking in

1458
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: this league than more power to the roster, and the

1459
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: team's better because it's deeper with talent that knows how

1460
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: to operate on a day in, day out basis. I

1461
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: believe this though, about mentorship in this game and on

1462
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 1: these rosters, it's sort of organic. It naturally happens. I

1463
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: don't think you can say, we got to find somebody

1464
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: in this room to be a mentor and a leader,

1465
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: and right you can't. It's got to just happen, right naturally.

1466
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I think it's important to

1467
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: program some of your older players to work to foster

1468
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: those relationships though, and not just blindly think me, me, me,

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: me me, you know. Yeah, And I think the reason

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Speaker 1: it's a tough balance for some people is because of

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: the nature of how this league works. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is it's a cutthroat league, and the guy

1473
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: you might be mentoring is ultimately here to replace you

1474
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: at some point in time, right yeah, I mean unless

1475
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: he flames out and clearly isn't as good as you

1476
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: and never will be short of that though, a lot

1477
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: of these young guys are here to replace you. Are

1478
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: you big enough of a team player to pay it

1479
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: forward and make that player, that younger player better and

1480
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: put him on a faster track to success, knowing you

1481
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: could compromise your own job security. I think that's a

1482
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: difficult balance sometimes for some players. So I think that's

1483
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: why coach McDermott is so adamant about finding the players

1484
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: with the right DNA. And part of the DNA is

1485
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: being a team guy first, as hard as that might be,

1486
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: knowing that in some cases your livelihood is at risk.

1487
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: Talking about the Bills, rookies will be in here later

1488
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: this week, tomorrow on Friday, and which of them will

1489
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: benefit from the veterans in front of them as mentors

1490
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: as leaders? Is it possible in your mind, Chris, to

1491
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: bring in players from other rosters to become your new leaders,

1492
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: your mentors? And I'm thinking in the Bills case, in

1493
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: particular about Frank Gore and about Cole Beasley. I would

1494
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: not rule either one of them out, maybe especially Gore,

1495
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: as a potential mentor and leader in their own particular

1496
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: position group meeting rooms. I think Gore, it's easy. I mean,

1497
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: he's like he Hutton. You know he talks, people are

1498
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna listen. I mean, what is it, thirteen years in

1499
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: the league, fourteen thousand career yards. I mean I didn't

1500
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: have to say anything. Walk in the room and people

1501
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: that's frank Or. Oh there's the tank man. Look at

1502
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? People, he walks in a

1503
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: room and people turn around, people stop talking. You know,

1504
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: everything stops when that guy comes in a room. Does

1505
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: he have something to say? Oh boy, I'm gonna sit

1506
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: up and listen. You know, there's there's a respect factor

1507
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: there that runs league wide for a guy like that,

1508
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's even an issue. Cole Beasley

1509
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: could be a little bit different. I mean, he's not

1510
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: franc Or, but he played on a team that was

1511
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: a high visibility club. He made big plays in big

1512
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: moments for that team, albeit not with a whole lot

1513
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: of playoff success. So you know where does that leave him?

1514
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: I think coming in the door, he's still one of

1515
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: the most experienced receivers in the room. So that's got

1516
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: to count for something as far as I'm concerned. And

1517
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: I think on the back end of the Buffalo defense,

1518
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: the two safeties hide employer even neither one of them

1519
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Yet I think our natural leaders and

1520
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: have already now as they each move into their third season,

1521
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: they have become acknowledged leaders not just for their position group,

1522
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: but I think all over the roster. No, I would

1523
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: agree with that. I would agree with that. And you

1524
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: can tell too, just being around guys like that who

1525
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: who it comes naturally to. You know, I know you're

1526
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: going back to your organic conversation about this. You know

1527
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: there is a measure of natural fit for that kind

1528
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: of a role. You know, you can get into the

1529
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: whole argument our leaders born or made. I think it's

1530
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Quite frankly, You've got to

1531
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: put a person in position to do it, so that's

1532
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: how they're made. But they have to have the wherewithal,

1533
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, within themselves to lead as well. And I

1534
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: think Micah Hide is a guy that naturally embraces that.

1535
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Poyer, after he was here for a year,

1536
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: felt more comfortable taking on that kind of a leadership position.

1537
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: And I think both of those guys have done enough

1538
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: here already where they feel comfortable in their shoes, comfortable

1539
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: in their role as players on the field, and that

1540
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: in turn, has made their ability to lead a lot

1541
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: easier than maybe it was coming in the door. Here's

1542
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: one more question on this topic, leadership and mentor ship.

1543
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: Chris was talking about this earlier this morning when we

1544
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: were meeting about the show, and not just among the

1545
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: defensive line group, but on the whole roster. Will the

1546
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: Bills look Kyt Williams had a fine year last year

1547
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: on the field, but will they miss his leadership? And

1548
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, at any point during the season, whether it's

1549
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: a particularly rough loss or bad performance, or some sort

1550
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: of incident that maybe brings up man that would never

1551
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: happen if Kyle were here, do you think that's likely

1552
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: to happen? Not likely to happen. What do you think?

1553
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening here. No, nope, Because you're

1554
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: if you were in if you were in year two,

1555
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, when the team hits the skids, has a

1556
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: bad stretch, you know, maybe you could see it happening.

1557
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: But I think the foundational structure of this roster in

1558
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: terms of leadership is so sound now in year three

1559
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:59,440
Speaker 1: that I don't anticipate anything like that becoming a bugaboo

1560
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: for this team. It's been all right. I'll accept that,

1561
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: but think about it, there have been a net loss

1562
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: of two key leaders in each of the last time.

1563
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: I don't dismiss that. But let's go back to twenty

1564
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: seventeen when they had a three game losing streak and

1565
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: we're getting obliterated on the scoreboard. They pulled themselves out

1566
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: of that tailspin. And that was in year one under McDermott.

1567
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: You know, I think in year three, you know, if

1568
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: they have some kind of a tailspin similar to that,

1569
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: I think they will be able to confidently stay the course,

1570
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, keep everybody together, because if you look at

1571
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: how this thing was built, that may have been priority

1572
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: number one for how this roster was structured. Make sure

1573
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: there is a strong enough core group of guys to

1574
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 1: keep everybody together and on track, so there aren't any

1575
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: splinters or fractures anywhere in the locker room where maybe

1576
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: after three straight losses somebody's throwing his hands up and saying, well,

1577
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: if you threw the ball all to me more, we

1578
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in this situation. That's not going to exist.

1579
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: It's just not and if it does, it's going to

1580
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: get tamped out in a hurry. Yeah, by the by

1581
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 1: the people that are running that room. You're right. You

1582
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: know there are listeners who will laugh at this conversation.

1583
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 1: It's a leadership get me players. Look at the numbers,

1584
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: look at the analytics. Those are the guys that win

1585
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 1: championships for US. I think they're wrong. I think leadership

1586
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: is important for this team and for any successful unit

1587
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Sometimes you can sustain it over the

1588
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: course of an entire season. Sometimes you can sustain it

1589
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but you gotta have it

1590
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: damn any success in this league. I think I think

1591
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: you would probably agree with that. Yeah, I would agree

1592
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah. I mean, and look at where they are.

1593
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in year three of this thing, so

1594
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's I think the concern is far

1595
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: less than it used to be, and part of the

1596
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 1: concern earlier in the tenure of coach McDermott was rooted

1597
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: in what we had witnessed in the past, where there

1598
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: were splintered locker rooms. But you can go all the

1599
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: way back to the Mike Malark era where he inherited

1600
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: a defensive staff that was never truly on board with

1601
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: what he was doing, and in two thousand and five

1602
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: you had this half of the coaching hallway and this

1603
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: half of the coaching hallway and never the Twain met,

1604
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean that was probably

1605
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: as bad as it ever got. And then there were

1606
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, there were other instances and years after that,

1607
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: and you had you know, coaches revolting, I mean, and

1608
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: then it would trickle down to the players. You want

1609
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: to go all the way back to Flutie Johnson, you

1610
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: can do that and the factions that that created and

1611
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: the mess that that was, so that we are so

1612
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: far removed from that now. This might be one of

1613
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: the healthiest locker room cultures we've seen in a long

1614
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: long time here in Buffalo. And it will pay dividends

1615
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: on the field because when the going gets tough, this

1616
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: team's just gonna strap it up a little bit tighter.

1617
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: They're not going to turn and run. Talking about rookies

1618
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: today because the rookies for the Bills come in tomorrow

1619
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: and get on the field on Friday. A couple of questions,

1620
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: which rookie coming in this week will benefit the most

1621
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: from the veterans in front of him on the roster

1622
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,879
Speaker 1: in terms of leadership, in terms of maybe on field instruction.

1623
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: Which rookie stay to benefit the most. We'll be interested

1624
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: in your thoughts on that or the other question on

1625
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: the table. Which Bill's rookie faces the toughest competition to

1626
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: do whatever you think they should do. Make the roster

1627
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: be a starter, uh, make the practice squad. Whatever? We

1628
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: got phone lines open to discuss eight three fifty twenty

1629
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1630
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: We've got Jose on the line with us. Hello, Jose,

1631
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey. I was going

1632
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: to say something earlier, but then hearing Chris talk about this,

1633
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: I just want to say say something though, I just

1634
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: want to switch my subject. I'm a I'm a firm

1635
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: believer of all the rookies are going to be benefit

1636
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: from from T two people and that's McBean McDermott and

1637
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot and and uh Brandon being because of this culture,

1638
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: this culture that just that just McDermott has brought here.

1639
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: Is you're right, Brown, Like, there's there's no way gonna

1640
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: be no no, no finger pointing or anything like that.

1641
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: Mcdermot's not gonna let that happen. And I believe that

1642
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: all these rookies are coming into an environment that is

1643
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: going to benefit them, like what they've build, what they're

1644
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: building here. I mean they say trust the process, like

1645
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: it's funny how we can actually see it in front

1646
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: of us. And you're right, this is the healthiest locker

1647
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: room I've seen in a long time. And even this

1648
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: is close close with the Bills, you know, from back

1649
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: in the days. So I just want to hang up

1650
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: and talk about it. Yeah, and let's think about people

1651
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: that didn't adhere to the model here. Yeah, they're not here.

1652
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: They're not here. Yeah, Calvin Benjamin By, Felicia, you know

1653
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, So not here. Sammy Watkins not here,

1654
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: you know at all? Derby, Look, talented players, premium draft picks,

1655
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: sometimes more than one premium draft picks. We can they

1656
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: just didn't fit in, I think to what they're trying

1657
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: to be. We can go back to the quote that

1658
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has said and that Sean McDermott has said.

1659
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: We're not trying to assemble talent, We're trying to build

1660
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: a team. And there is a difference. Yes, you need

1661
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: talent to win in the NFL, but not at the

1662
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: expense of the culture of your locker room, they'll get

1663
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: people who are talented and also have the right frame

1664
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: of mind on how to operate on a day to

1665
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: day basis. Here at one Bill's drive and if you

1666
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: can't do both, if you can do at least that,

1667
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: you give yourself a chance, even if you're an undrafted player.

1668
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: But if you're a talented player and you don't do that,

1669
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to be here very long. You're

1670
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: just not And we've seen examples of that in the

1671
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 1: first two years already from the tweet sheet. When we

1672
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: ask the question which Bill's rookie faces the toughest competition,

1673
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: James responds this way, I have to say Jaquan Johnson.

1674
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: He's a bit undersized playing behind the safety that rarely

1675
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: comes off the field. I was going to say the

1676
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: running back Singletary, but I really believe he will see

1677
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: the field in different packages. The staff gushes about him.

1678
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: We'll have to earn it though, Yeah, although that true.

1679
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 1: Williams responds this way, Which Bill's rookie faces the toughest competition.

1680
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: William says, I think the undrafted wide receiver David Sills

1681
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 1: does West Virginia wide receiver. He seems to have what

1682
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: it takes to be a good wide out, but there

1683
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: are so many in front of him and possibly only

1684
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: five six positions available. Maybe he can be put on

1685
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: the practice squad for insurance as something happens. Practice squad

1686
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting, And I think it's gonna have

1687
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: some talented players on it this year. I really do. Yeah,

1688
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: players that you know, maybe in year one or year

1689
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: two would have made this roster. Yeah, you know, and

1690
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: now they're they're gonna get bumped off but be held

1691
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: onto for development purposes. And we were saying this earlier

1692
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: in the week too, Murph. There's gonna be guys that

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01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: don't make this roster who play on other rosters in

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01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: this league, because that's that's how far the talent and

1695
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: depth on this roster has been advanced by being a

1696
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: McDermott over these last couple of years. Maybe they don't

1697
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: make this roster and they make somebody else's right, Well, yeah,

1698
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. They're gonna play on other teams. Yeah, yeah,

1699
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: all right, we're taking a break. We're coming back talking

1700
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: more about the rookies. Which rookies faced the toughest competition,

1701
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Which rookie will benefit from the people ahead of him,

1702
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the Ventermans that had him on the roster, or whatever

1703
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: you'd like to discuss. We got phone lines open the eighth,

1704
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: three fifty and toll free one eight eight five fifty

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01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Albert Breer from MMQBSI dot com is

1706
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: going to join us, coming up at the top of

1707
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: the hour two o'clock. Stick around for that. One Bill's

1708
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. And

1709
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio John Murphy with Chris Brown.

1710
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: It's One Bills Live are coming here from One Bill's Drive,

1711
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: talking about the rookies who are in later today, who

1712
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: faces the toughest competition as far as this Bill's roster,

1713
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: and who's going to benefit from the people in front

1714
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: of him leadership. What do you reading? You got something?

1715
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: You said he had a bone to pick, Yeah, picking

1716
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: So so. Albert Brier head a column that he put

1717
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,839
Speaker 1: together and part of the column was comparing the last

1718
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:51,520
Speaker 1: three draft classes seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen, and he essentially

1719
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: pulled eleven different NFL teams got eleven votes back, basically

1720
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: ranking the core terbacks from the last three drafts. So

1721
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: we're talking seventeen eighteen nineteen, So the mahone drafts in seventeen,

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: the Mayfield draft in eighteen, and then this year's draft

1723
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: as well, And so basically the way it worked was

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01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: five points for a first place vote, four for a

1725
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: second place vote, and on from there. So tied for

1726
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 1: the lead. And we're talking twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

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01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,879
Speaker 1: Tied at number one. We're Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnald.

1728
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is fourth on this list. Okay, that's that's

1729
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: number one valuable player. Pat Mahomes is fourth. Okay, So

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01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: Mayfield and Darnald both get four first place votes, they're

1731
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: tied with thirty five points apiece. Okay. Then we have

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson third, one first place vote, Pat Mahomes fourth,

1733
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: Kyler fifth, hasn't played, okay, Josh Rosen six, Mitch Drubisky seven,

1734
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones eight, Dwayne Haskins nine, Josh Allen not on

1735
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: the list, and neither is Lamar Jackson. Are you freaking

1736
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: kidding me? Seriously? The survey that Albert Brier did, so

1737
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: let me get the street representatives. Eleven different teams participated. Yeah, okay,

1738
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 1: and how would the last three quarterback classes have graded

1739
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: out against each other? And this is how they put

1740
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: the list together. So we're gonna need some explanation on

1741
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: this because maybe I'm not reading this right, or maybe

1742
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: I'm a little messed up in the head. But all

1743
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: I know is the twenty nineteen draft class for quarterbacks

1744
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: was considered a down year, and yet one, two, three,

1745
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: all three of them are on this list. So I

1746
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: don't know who he was talking to at these eleven

1747
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: different club ubs. You know, maybe it was people with

1748
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: an axe to grind. Maybe some guy didn't get the

1749
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: guy that he wanted his team to pick in the

1750
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: draft and picked somebody else out of spite. I don't

1751
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: know what the heck it was, But how you have

1752
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: two guys who actually played in the league last year

1753
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: and not make this list. Yet all three rookies that

1754
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: just got drafted, including the most maligned quarterback in the

1755
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: last two weeks, Daniel Jones, is on this list and

1756
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: not Josh Allen. You gotta be kidding me. Do you

1757
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: have a composite grade for the draft year? No, I

1758
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: don't see that here, but I mean an NFL an

1759
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: NFC exact not from the Cardinals had Murray number one

1760
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 1: on his list. His explanation, on tape, he was the best,

1761
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: the best combo of arm talent and dynamic athletic ability.

1762
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: Obviously you have to factor in size, but on tape

1763
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: he was the best. Pretty straightforward. Murray was in the

1764
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: top three on all three on three ballots and didn't

1765
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: appear on four ballots. So he appeared on three ballots,

1766
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: including this guy's number one, but on four other ballots

1767
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: he wasn't even there. I'm really wondering that I gotta

1768
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: ask Albert the cross section of this. Only one non

1769
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,440
Speaker 1: first round picks name was raised, Drew Locke, another executive,

1770
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: told me he did. So these are executives, and Albert

1771
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: tries to clarify it or or qualify it, saying this

1772
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be scientific. It was eleven evaluators in

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01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: a league with hundreds of them. So take it as

1774
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: a fun exercise that reflects the way a group of

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01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: NFL types who study quarterbacks for a living would have

1776
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: stacked up the prospects from the past three years if

1777
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: grouped together. Now, I'm just gonna tell you right off

1778
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: the cuff that Daniel Jeremiah from NFL Network said he

1779
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: gave Kyler Murray the same grade he gave Josh Allen

1780
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: the year before. So, I mean, I'm sorry. You know,

1781
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: I love Daniel Jones. Nice kid. I'm sure he's wonderful,

1782
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: jury eats all his vegetables at dinner and everything else.

1783
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: But how is he on a list when he hasn't

1784
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: even played in the NFL? And Josh Allen is not

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01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: on the list with some of the things that he

1786
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: did last year in this league on an offense that

1787
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of support around it. To be clear,

1788
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 1: you are not striking this with such passion because because

1789
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen. Right, it doesn't make sense beyond Josh Allen,

1790
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: beyond Josh Allens. But I do have an issue that

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01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's not on in the top nine. It's ridiculous

1792
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,679
Speaker 1: that Pat Holmes Pat Mahomes is not number one. Yeah,

1793
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? How is he not

1794
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: number one? Can you contain some of this passion for

1795
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: Albert Brier coming up in the Cup? Oh, I'll be ready,

1796
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I'll be ready. I'm just gonna sit back and watch

1797
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: you go. I mean, look, I understand people are excited

1798
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. I get that. I

1799
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: think Deshaun Watson is a promising young quarterback. But how

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01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: is Pat Maholmes fourth? How is that even possible? Could

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01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: anybody disagree with that, like constructively and build a reasonable argument?

1802
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? We're wasting our time? Who

1803
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: put a come on? How did you? David? I gotta

1804
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: know how Albert and good conscious like, how did his

1805
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: eyes not fall out of his head? With these responses?

1806
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: That save this Albert Breer Chris Brown's coming up cage

1807
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: match After the Lab, We're coming back with more One

1808
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio

1809
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network Sports Take from One Bill Drive. The

1810
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: Bills have wrapped up yet another day of their offseason

1811
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: conditioning work today. The veterans will be back tomorrow to

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: do it again, and then the rookie step in. They'll

1813
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: arrive tomorrow. The rookies will be here for a three

1814
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 1: day weekend Rookie Minicamp Friday, Saturday Sunday on the field

1815
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: around the league. Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive end Jason beer

1816
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: Paul has suffered a potentially season ending fractured neck. It

1817
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: happened in a car crash last week in South Florida.

1818
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: He will likely need surgery. The crash occurred early Thursday

1819
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: morning in Broward County, Florida. Here Paul was in the

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01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: car with an named passenger, saw in medical attention at

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01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: a local hospital and was released. He was not cited

1822
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: for the crash. He has not attended any of the

1823
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: volunteer workouts that the Bucks have held this offseason under

1824
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: new head coach Bruce arians Lal. Paul says his neck

1825
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: is okay. The former Jets running back has been fully

1826
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: cleared from a neck injury, which was once thought to

1827
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: threaten his career. He's played eight seasons with the New

1828
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: York Jets. He is healthy after suffering the injury in

1829
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Week seven last year, Patriots added an offensive lineman. Former

1830
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals offensive tackle Jared vel Deer signed a one

1831
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: year deal. He's expected to The signing came right after

1832
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: the compensatory picked deadline, which expired at midnight last night.

1833
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Ville Deer turns thirty two years old next month. Elsewhere

1834
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: around the world of sports, one game in the Stanley

1835
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: Cup Playoffs to night Game seven in the Stanley Cup

1836
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: playoffs series between Colorado and San Jose tied up at

1837
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: three games apiece, though face off tonight at nine o'clock

1838
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: in San Jose. Boston Bruins opened the Eastern Conference Finals

1839
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: against the Carolina Hurricanes tomorrow night at home. Boston will

1840
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: be without defenseman Charlie McAvoy. He will not participate in

1841
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: game one. He's been suspended for one playoff game by

1842
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: the NHL for an illegal hit to the head of

1843
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: Columbus Bluejackets forward Josh Anderson. And that's the update from

1844
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, John Murphy with Chris Brown in for

1845
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: the vacationing Steve Tasker all this week. We come to

1846
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: you live from One Bill's Drive and joining us right

1847
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: now on the line. Happy to have senior NFL reporter

1848
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: for MMQB dot SI dot com, host of the MMQB podcast,

1849
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: Albert Breer on the line of us. Hello, Albert, John

1850
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Murphy and Chris Brown up here in Buffalo. Thank you

1851
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: for joining us. Hey, John, Hey Chris, how are you

1852
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: guys doing good? Hey, I'm gonna let Chris get started.

1853
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: He read we both read your Monday column and Chris

1854
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: has a question for you. Well, I mean, I was

1855
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 1: looking at the stack in the quarterbacks from the last

1856
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,440
Speaker 1: three drafts, and I understand that there are some qualifiers

1857
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: attached to this. This is based on what all of

1858
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: these executives had graded them prior to being drafted, so

1859
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: that obviously, you know, changes the dynamic of this to

1860
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: a certain result. And I know there is probably a

1861
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: lot more consensus on player is like Mayfield and Darnold,

1862
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: who were widely seen as probably the closest thing to

1863
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: total package QBS. But I'm still surprised to see Mahomes

1864
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: behind Watson, and I'm surprised to see Jones on the

1865
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: list and Alan Josh Allen not on the list at all.

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01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: Did were you as taken aback by some of these

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01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: results as I wasn't. Again, I know, eleven teams is

1868
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: somewhat small sample size, but still in all, where did

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01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: this list leave you? Let me give you some qualifiers, Chris.

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01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: First of all, all I asked for was the top five, right,

1871
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 1: So if you didn't make someone's top five, you weren't

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01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: going to appear on the list. And in the case

1873
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: of both Daniel Jones and Dwayne Haskins, those guys both

1874
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 1: only appeared on one ballot, Jones got a fourth place

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01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: vote and Haskins got a fifth place vote. And so really,

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01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: I think what it sort of encapsulated more than anything

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01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: else is these are the quarterbacks who were in the

1878
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: top five, and you know, more so than the guys

1879
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: at the bottom. I think it's sort of, at least

1880
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: to me, built a lead consent on who the guys

1881
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: at the top of the heap were. And so I

1882
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 1: think that that's the thing you got to look at,

1883
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 1: was something like this. If I had asked for ten,

1884
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: then that would have been different. If Alan or Lamar

1885
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: Jackson hadn't appeared on any of the top ten lists.

1886
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about something else, but not appearing on

1887
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: the top five lists. If you consider that Mayfield was

1888
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: on every one of them, Darnold was on all but

1889
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, you would have had to

1890
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: have been one of the three other quarterbacks on one

1891
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: of those lists. And so I mean, look, I there

1892
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,719
Speaker 1: are thousands of scouts in the NFL. I pulled eleven

1893
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: of them, and I actually actually pulled twenty five to

1894
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: thirty of them on Friday night. You can imagine how

1895
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: I ran into some issues doing it at that late point,

1896
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to sort of get an idea,

1897
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: and you know, a bunch of guys got back to

1898
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: me and said, I didn't study the eighteen class, right,

1899
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: I didn't study the nineteen class. So I had to

1900
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: find some guys who had actually taken a hard look

1901
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 1: at all three classes. And really, what I was trying

1902
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: to do is just building a consensus on who the

1903
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: guys were that were the truly elite prospects. And so

1904
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,879
Speaker 1: I think it was very clear that Arnold and Mayfield

1905
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: there was a lead consensus on those two. Watson, same thing,

1906
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: and Mahomes. The interesting thing about him was he was polarizing,

1907
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: but in a different way than say a Josh Allen

1908
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: or a Daniel Jones or Dwayne Haskins might be polarizing.

1909
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 1: Mahomes was one of these guys where some guys didn't

1910
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: even have him on the list, and other people said,

1911
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: this is the best prospect I've seen in the last

1912
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: five years and so, and I think quarter looking at

1913
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this day and age is always a little polarizing,

1914
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: but in the case of Mahomes it was almost to

1915
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: another level where he played in such an unconventional offense

1916
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: in college and had such an unconventional style that there

1917
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 1: was a lot of disagreement over the kind of player

1918
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: that he was. The other thing that struck me about

1919
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: the list that was put together here is how much

1920
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: the view of a quarterback that doesn't hit all the

1921
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: measurables is graded. Now, maybe not universally, but just you know,

1922
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I recall hearing Daniel Jeremiah and a lot of his

1923
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: pre draft comment Terry saying he gave the same grade

1924
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray this year as he gave to Josh

1925
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Allen last year. And then we look at this list

1926
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 1: and we see Kyler Murray five, and the guy that

1927
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: hits all of the measurables in terms of height, weight, speed,

1928
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: arm strength is not on the list at all. And again,

1929
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: I know, small sample size, eleven different teams, but what

1930
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: does that say. Do you think about where grading quarterbacks

1931
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: who don't meet the height metric are in this day

1932
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: and age in this league? Guys, I actually and I

1933
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: know this may not go over well because you guys

1934
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: are a Bill's show, but I think it actually shows

1935
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: progress in the way that teams are thinking. And this

1936
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: has become so much more subjective than it used to be.

1937
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: I think it used to be objective, and I think

1938
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: that there's an element of job protecting in that, like

1939
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: where teams would say, I can't sell a guy who's

1940
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 1: not six foot five and two hundred and thirty pounds

1941
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: to my owner, so I'm not even gonna try to.

1942
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, now, I think we see teams are a

1943
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 1: lot more open minded to the idea of a guy

1944
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: who's five foot ten of a guy who's six feet tall,

1945
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: and so, you know, I think guys like Baker Mayfield

1946
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray would not have appeared on one of

1947
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: these lists fifteen or twenty years ago. And the really

1948
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: interesting thing about it was talking to people within the

1949
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: league about guys who maybe you know, the league missed

1950
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 1: the boat on all those years ago. One name that

1951
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: came up was Charlie Ward. And a couple of people

1952
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: said to me, Charlie Ward absolutely would have been an

1953
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback in this day and age. Back then, we

1954
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 1: weren't ready for that sort of thing. And if you

1955
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: even want to turn it back further than that, I'll

1956
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: bring up a guy you guys are probably pretty familiar with,

1957
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: ness Doug Flutie, And I know you guys were around Doug,

1958
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: and I was around Doug. My first year covering the

1959
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: league was his last year playing professional football, and I

1960
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: could just tell you my experience having covered Doug. He

1961
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: did not think that it was his fault that he

1962
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: hadn't truly made it as an NFL quarterback. He thought

1963
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: it was, you know, a function of opportunity. He just

1964
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten the opportunity because he didn't have those measurables.

1965
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: And so I think it is progress and the way

1966
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: scouts are looking at things, that they are open minded

1967
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: enough to look at quarterbacks that are come in different

1968
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes. And the fascinating thing about it is

1969
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: it's made the process so much more subjective because we're

1970
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: looking at so many different types of gay and now

1971
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 1: we're one more thing. I wonder what impact you see

1972
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: created by economics, the rookie salary cap and the fact

1973
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: that the cap goes up over a year. Teams seem

1974
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: to be under less constraint by the salary camp every year,

1975
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 1: so maybe they're freer to make, you know, bigger decisions

1976
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks. Well, I mean there's no question about that.

1977
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: I mean, like, look do the Cardinals. I mean, like

1978
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: let's say this the old rookie salary system. Can the

1979
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: Cardinals go back again and take a quarterback the year

1980
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: after taking one last year? You know, if they'd paid

1981
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 1: out a bonus like you know, bonuses were being paid

1982
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: out the percentages of the cap that we're being paid

1983
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: out back in two thousand and eight or two thousand

1984
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: nine or two thousand and ten, kinds of deals that

1985
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford or Sam Bradford got, it'll

1986
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: be a lot more difficult for the Cardinals to make

1987
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 1: that decision. You know. Now, because the numbers are manageable,

1988
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals can make the decision, Hey, you know, we

1989
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: really like Josh Rosen, but we're flexible enough now to

1990
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: move on, and we really feel strong about Coylin Murray,

1991
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 1: so we're going to do it. And so I think

1992
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: that's where the economics come into it is, you know,

1993
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago, when you drafted one that high,

1994
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: you were sort of locked into him and there was

1995
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: no getting out of it. And now I think teams

1996
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: have some more flexibility if need be, to get out

1997
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: of a quarterback that they may not feel all that

1998
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: strongly about. Albert Rier, our guest MMQB senior NFL reporter,

1999
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: want to ask you a little bit about some of

2000
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the things you wrote about this past week and your

2001
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: Monday klam Albert. One of them is Gerald McCoy. You'd

2002
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: think he's not long for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Where

2003
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: does he go? Is it possible he comes to Buffalo?

2004
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: And what does he have to offer? Do you think?

2005
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean not impossible. I wouldn't say it's impossible he

2006
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: goes to Buffalo. You know. The big problem is that

2007
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: he can't play anymore. He's just not what he was.

2008
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: And he's still got a big number attached to his name,

2009
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars. I mean, the Box are super close

2010
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: to the salary cap. They're under two million dollars under

2011
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: the cap, and they've got a rookie class to take

2012
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: care of every team like to socc away, some money

2013
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: to take care of injuries during the season and everything else.

2014
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: And so the Bucks have some work to do to

2015
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: create the kind of cap room they're going to need

2016
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: to operate in twenty nineteen. The one thing that's sort

2017
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: of an X factor here though, is what happened with

2018
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: JPP and the car accident and the potential for this

2019
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: to be season ending. I just kind of keep an

2020
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: eye on what happens with JPP now because if he

2021
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 1: goes in that non football injury list, the Bucks don't

2022
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: have to pay him, and so how do they handle

2023
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: that one? So there are sort of some moving parts there.

2024
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: But I just can't imagine, based on where where they've

2025
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: been over the last two months, that the Bucks would

2026
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 1: bring Gerald McCoy back at that thirteen million dollars number.

2027
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: So my guess is either he accepts a pay cut

2028
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: or you know, he forces his release from there, and

2029
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: if he's out of there, I would say Buffalo will

2030
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,759
Speaker 1: be one team based on how Sean McDermott values defensive

2031
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: lineman that could take a look at him. And remember, guys,

2032
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: one thing that's sort of interesting about that too. I'll

2033
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,799
Speaker 1: just add this on here. Not only was Sean McDermott

2034
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: in the division with McCoy there in the NFCS out

2035
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: for all those years, I also think that it's it's

2036
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: important to note like, while at Oliver was drafted to

2037
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 1: be a three technique, most of his experience in college

2038
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: was on the nose, and so it's not impossible to

2039
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 1: envision a scenario where Oliver and McCoy could work really

2040
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: well together. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I mean I wasn't

2041
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: even given McCoy really a second thought, to be honest

2042
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 1: with you, but because they handed fifty million dollars to Latulae.

2043
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe they find a way to make it happen.

2044
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Lions and their lack of contact

2045
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 1: with TJ. Hockinson in the pre draft process. Some people

2046
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 1: will always say, Wow, they want to kind of keep

2047
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: their distance so they don't tip their hand. Do you

2048
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: find that this back channeling of relationships is becoming more

2049
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: the norm in the league to kind of keep, you know,

2050
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 1: keep teams true intentions from being revealed when everybody you

2051
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: know it used to be the lying game. Now it

2052
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: seems like it's the back channel game the teams are playing. Yeah,

2053
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just the advantage of having

2054
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: relationships chriss. I mean, if you know the people in

2055
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: the college program that a player is coming from, you're

2056
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: naturally gonna have to do a little less background work

2057
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: because you're gonna trust that you're getting the truth from

2058
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: those people right now. That doesn't mean you're not gonna

2059
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: want to still sit down and talk to the kid,

2060
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: but you're probably going to have a pretty thick file

2061
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: on who he is and where he came from and

2062
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: what type of player he projects to be, and so

2063
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 1: go on and certainly use that advantage that they had

2064
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 1: to a different degree than most teams will. Other teams

2065
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: don't care. I mean, right there in Buffalo, guys, the

2066
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Bills didn't hide their interest in at all. But I

2067
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: mean Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott were right there, front

2068
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,759
Speaker 1: and center at at Oliver's pro day at Houston, and

2069
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: really there's no other player on the Houston roster that

2070
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: you would have looked at and said, there's reason for

2071
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: a head coach and general manager to be there. And

2072
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: so you know, the Bills valued their information gathering process,

2073
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: their ability to go and and and and build a

2074
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: complete file on the player, over trying to hide what

2075
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: they were trying to do, and they wind up getting

2076
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: the player anyway. So these things can sort of work

2077
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 1: both ways. And if you guys really want to get

2078
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,919
Speaker 1: deep into the leads, I mean, sometimes teams show interests

2079
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 1: assuming that other teams are going to think that interest

2080
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: is fake, and you know, it can just an interesting

2081
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 1: show game that everybody played. Give yourself a headache trying

2082
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: to figure it out. But what did you make of

2083
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the Bills pick of it? Oliver and the fact that

2084
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: they didn't have to move to get him, didn't have

2085
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: to give up any other assets. I'll tell you what

2086
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: guys like I look at the Bills draft. I love

2087
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: what the Bills did. I mean to get at Oliver

2088
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: where they got him, I think it's fantastic to get

2089
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: them with the third overall pick, a guy who coming

2090
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: into the year I think was seen as the top

2091
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: three or four prospect in the class, and a guy

2092
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: who's got a real home and Sean McDermott's defense. You know,

2093
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: you can slide them right into that role the KK

2094
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: short played all those years in Carolina, you know. I mean,

2095
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: to me, that was perfect, and I think beyond just that, Like, look,

2096
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a scout, but I can tell you how

2097
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 1: players are valued, and I can tell you where players

2098
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: are projected to go. And I just look at some

2099
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 1: of the players that they got down the line, and

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Speaker 1: I think they did really nicely there. I mean moving

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01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: up to get Cody Ford, that was a guy who

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01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 1: could have gone as high as eleventh I mean, I

2103
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: can tell you if Jonah Williams hadn't fallen to the

2104
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 1: Bengals at eleven, Cody Ford would have been one of

2105
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: two players the Bengals would have considered with the eleventh

2106
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 1: overall pick. So that's the type of player that you're

2107
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: getting there in the thirties if you're Buffalo and then

2108
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: want to wind up with a running back in the

2109
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: future and Singletary and also getting a tight end that

2110
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: a lot of people value, one of the few true

2111
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: two way tight ends in the draft, and Dawson Knox.

2112
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: I think, at the very least, like, I don't know

2113
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: what type of players these guys are going to be,

2114
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: but at the very least you can look at it.

2115
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,879
Speaker 1: You can say based on where those players were valued

2116
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: going into the process, the Bills did pretty well playing

2117
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: the board. And then you know, coming out of the

2118
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: draft and the trades that came with it, suddenly three

2119
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: members of the twenty eighteen quarterback class now reside in

2120
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: the AFC East, with Rosen going to the Dolphins. I know,

2121
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: the Dolphins probably aren't going to make a lot of

2122
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: hey this year because they got a lot of roster

2123
01:44:56,040 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: reconstruction to undertake. But just kind of taking an outlook

2124
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 1: two or three years down the line, how entertaining could

2125
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 1: this division be at the quarterback position in a couple

2126
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 1: of years time. I mean, yeah, I know, And even

2127
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: consider this, Chris, like, what if they if they strike

2128
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: out on Josh Rose and I mean, they could be

2129
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: in the top five going getting too a tongue of

2130
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 1: below or you know. I mean, that's one of the

2131
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: things I love most about what Miami did is that

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01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 1: they take a swing at getting a franchise quarterback. They

2133
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: didn't give up more than a two to get him,

2134
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 1: and you know, they get the player in the building

2135
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 1: for a year, they get to assess it, and they

2136
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 1: still the flexibility to go back and take another one

2137
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: next year or the year after if they want to.

2138
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: And they've got a ton of draft capital. So I

2139
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 1: really like what Miami's doing, you know, like the idea

2140
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: of just doing a total tear down and let's build

2141
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: it up. It sort of reminds me a little bit

2142
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 1: of what Brandon Being and Sean McDermott did there after

2143
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: their first year in Buffalo, and I think you're starting

2144
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: to see some of that capital come to life there

2145
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: with the bills and then the Jets are going to

2146
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 1: be super interesting because you see them already now going

2147
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: in on that window that teams have taken advantage of.

2148
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: The Rams, the Eagles have taken advantage of having your

2149
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 1: quarterback on a rookie contract and making a splash a

2150
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: free agency that they made, going and getting CJ. Mosley

2151
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: to be in the middle of their defense, going and

2152
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: getting Levion Bella to be a centerpiece in their offense.

2153
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: The Jets, I mean, at the very least, I don't

2154
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: know how good they're going to be, but should be

2155
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: very entertaining, And so I think each of these teams

2156
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 1: sort of has interesting storylines attached to them. The Dolphins'

2157
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: is a total rebuild. We'll see where that goes. The

2158
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: Bills are now kind of coming out of the woods

2159
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: off their tear off the band aid year, and now

2160
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 1: the Jets are all in being in that window, their

2161
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback being their their quarterback being on a rookie deal.

2162
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting the way that those three

2163
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: teams way out right now, even if it's hard to

2164
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: see any of them challenging the Patriots just yet. Well,

2165
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 1: that gives me to this question out But do you

2166
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 1: see the Jets as being ahead of the Bills in

2167
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: terms of being able to win sooner rather than later.

2168
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,679
Speaker 1: I you know, so much of it depends for Buffalo

2169
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 1: on internal development, right, like how their younger players come along.

2170
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 1: And so I mean, it's Josh Allen on offense, it's

2171
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 1: it's it's Edmunds on defense, Stredavious White on defense. They've

2172
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: done a nice job stocking that roster with some promising

2173
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: young players. I think what's going to determine how much

2174
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: better the Bills are because they showed so much promise,

2175
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 1: Like that program showed so much promise in year one,

2176
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 1: and I think we all knew what last year was

2177
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 1: going to be, taking on all the hits from the

2178
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: dead money, building up the draft capital the way that

2179
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: they did. Um, you know, it's going to be interesting

2180
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: to see because I think so much of it's going

2181
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: to depend on how some of those younger players come along.

2182
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 1: And so really, I think where the Bills are in

2183
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen sort of depends on the sort of jump

2184
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 1: that you see from Josh Allen, the sort of jump

2185
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 1: you see year two to year three from Jadavious White,

2186
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 1: the kind of jump you see year one from from

2187
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: year one to year two from Tremaine Edmands. It's gonna

2188
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: be really really interesting because they do have a lot

2189
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: of guys that, I know, the very least were very

2190
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: highly thought of coming out of college and just going

2191
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 1: back to the draft for one more second here, Albert,

2192
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: you know you look at what a mediocre receiver draft

2193
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: it was, and I know you wrote about this in

2194
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: your column too, that the twenty twenty receiver class is

2195
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be very strong at least early returns are

2196
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,719
Speaker 1: indicating that. Just in your dealings with NFL personnel exex

2197
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: how much do they factor the next year's class because

2198
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: they spent twelve months time getting ready for that class

2199
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: and knowing every in and out about every player that's

2200
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: draftable with you know, with a draftable grade in that class,

2201
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:40,759
Speaker 1: how much do they really do homework on that next

2202
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: class that will impact their decisions in this year's draft

2203
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 1: knowing things could be better a year from now at

2204
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 1: a position where maybe they want to address. I'd say

2205
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:54,440
Speaker 1: it depends on the position, you know, like a quarterback.

2206
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I know, like the Jets and the Browns in twenty seventeen,

2207
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: now that would have been the Mahomes Watson year, we're

2208
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 1: literally studying two quarterback classes at once, right Like they

2209
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 1: were literally, all right, we're gonna break down the guys

2210
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 1: this year. We're gonna break down the guys next year.

2211
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna make a conscious decision on what we want

2212
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: to do. Both those teams decided to wait. They have

2213
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: Darnold and Mayfield. As a result, I think in other

2214
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: positions it sort of is more word of mouth and

2215
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 1: it's how good your area scouts are to be honest

2216
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 1: with you, because these are the guys who are in

2217
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: those buildings, and you know, they'll have discussions with the

2218
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: coaches and all those different people in those college programs,

2219
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 1: and looks some of this is against the rules, but

2220
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: you know what happens. They they'll talk about like, oh, well,

2221
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: we got this player coming down the line and that

2222
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: player coming down the line, and so that information starts

2223
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 1: to build on, oh well, there's a receiver coming from here,

2224
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: and there's a receiver coming from there, and maybe the

2225
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: offensive line class next year has this guy or that guy,

2226
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: and so you start to build I guess, just information

2227
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: on what's a year ahead. And if that information is

2228
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: strong and one in one direction or another, you might

2229
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and take a look at the class. And

2230
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: so one team that I know did that at the

2231
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: receiver position was the Indianapolis Colts. And a lot of

2232
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: people sort of scratch their head at the idea of

2233
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: signing Devin funchis for the money they signed them for. Well,

2234
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: part of the idea there was Devin Funcies can help

2235
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: us out this year, and if we get them on

2236
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 1: a one year deal, that'll sort of take care of

2237
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 1: the problem, and then we can look ahead to two

2238
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 1: and twenty. And quite honestly, like Buffalo is sort of

2239
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 1: in that position too, where they took care of the

2240
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 1: receiver position and free agency bringing in John Brown and

2241
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, and now maybe they can look at getting

2242
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: the true number one guy year from now. When you've

2243
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: got the Colorado kids Chanel, when you got the Clemson

2244
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 1: kid Higgins, and when you get all the Alabama kids

2245
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 1: going into the draft. It's certainly an interesting dynamic that

2246
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: I think was certain what was absolutely at work at

2247
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: the receiver position in twenty nineteen. Albert, Can I ask

2248
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: you one more question, and it's not draft related. It's

2249
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: about a guy who we feel very highly of. Here.

2250
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: I think very highly of here. Richie Incognito had to

2251
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: work out earlier this week with the Raiders. I know

2252
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: you've written about rich he extensively through his travails over

2253
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: the last several years. How realistic is it to think him,

2254
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: think of him maybe getting back into the league. Does

2255
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: he have much left to offer? Do you think? Yeah,

2256
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: I think it's very realistic. I mean, you guys know

2257
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: better than I do. He was a good player, you know,

2258
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 1: um in twenty seventeen, he's still had plenty left, you know,

2259
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: I number one, And this is the most important thing.

2260
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: I think he's in a good place mentally. And you know,

2261
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: having talked to some of his friends and not just Richie,

2262
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: but having talked to some people around him, it sounds like,

2263
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, right around the first of the year, people

2264
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: start to notice like, hey, he's really got his crap

2265
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 1: together and this is um, this is a guy who

2266
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: really looks like he's you know, he's turned a corner

2267
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: and he's in a better place mentally. So that's the

2268
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's the most important thing from a

2269
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: human standpoint, but it's also an important thing for all

2270
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 1: these teams to know. And yeah, I mean I think

2271
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: he feels like he's got some unfinished business left. And

2272
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I mean, look, they traded Colluccio Assemily to

2273
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: the to the New York Jets earlier in the off

2274
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: season to clear out of a little cap space, so

2275
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: they could certainly, you know, use Richie Incognito. And if

2276
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 1: you look at the state of their offensive line with

2277
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: Hudson and with Brown and with Colton Miller, like Richie

2278
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: Incognito could wind up being the missing piece for a

2279
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: group like that to become very, very dominant. And so

2280
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 1: I know he had his workout yesterday. It was two

2281
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 1: days ago now. The workout, from everything I understand, on

2282
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Monday went really really well, to the point where they

2283
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: had him go and take a physical. Everything looks all

2284
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 1: right there. So I think part of this is going

2285
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: to be waiting on the league discipline and what the

2286
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: league might do about all the stuff that happened last year.

2287
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: But I think he's very much in play to be

2288
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: an Oakland writer. I hope that works out. I root

2289
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 1: for Richie. I'm sure you do as well. It sounds

2290
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 1: like it. Hey, Albert, thank you very much. Thanks for

2291
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: spending some time with the city. We really appreciate it

2292
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: all right, thanks guys. Albert Prier, the host of the

2293
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 1: MMQB podcast, senior NFL reporter for MMQB. You can catch

2294
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: him online in MMQB dot SI dot com. Right, it's

2295
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: a remarkable Monday morning. It's usually Monday morning post kind

2296
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: of summarizing what's going on around the league. Former NFL

2297
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: Network reporter A couple of interesting things. That's good to

2298
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 1: know that apparently Richie's workout went well and and as

2299
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: Albert points out, that he is regarded by those who

2300
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: know him best as being in good shape mentally and physically.

2301
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 1: And you've got to believe at this point in time,

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01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 1: all Mayok and company are doing there is their due

2303
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 1: diligence with respect to potential discipline. You know that Richie

2304
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: could be facing for that arrest that you know, took

2305
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 1: place around the time of his dad's passing when he

2306
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 1: clearly was not in the right frame of mind. So

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01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: I think once they get their due diligence accomplished there

2308
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 1: and either get a yay or a NA or hey,

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Speaker 1: we may investigate this from the league, I think that'll

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Speaker 1: kind of bring in a lot more clarity on the

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01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 1: situation and whether or not they want to go ahead

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01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: and sign. I think they ultimately do want to add

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01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: him to the roster, but I think they want to

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01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 1: clear this hurdle first and find out what the league's

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01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: intentions are with respect to discipline first. Did you get

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01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: the answers you were looking for from Albert about his quarterback? Yeah?

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01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: I think some of the qualifiers definitely helped me with that,

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01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 1: and when you saw how the points system worked, you

2319
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: could understand it. But I still can't get to a

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01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: place where Daniel Jones is ahead of Josh Allen on

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01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 1: any list pre draft, post draft, in a bowling alley,

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01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: on a basketball court. I mean, I don't care where

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01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: it's happening. I just don't see anyway that Daniel Jones

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01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 1: is ahead of Josh Allen on any list. You know

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01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 1: what the interesting part about that was, and he explained

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01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 1: it why it turned out that way, but the wide

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01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 1: variety and I guess we knew this two years ago

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01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: in the draft, but the wide variety of opinions on

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01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes stood out right right right, And I guess

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01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: Adam Apine some people are like, no, he's not. That

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01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: helps explain why he was fourth, because I think there

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01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: was a scattershot review of Mahomes game because he played

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01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 1: in an offense that had yet to be proven at

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: the NFL level, And not only that, he was not

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01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: always considered to be the most astute decision maker. He

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: believed so much in his arm that he would make

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01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 1: any throw from anywhere, at any angle. And I think

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:09,839
Speaker 1: I think more personnel executives mark that down as a negative,

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01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid and company in Kansas City saw that

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01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: as a positive. A guy who could improvise and make

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01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: plays that most other quarterbacks simply could not make. And

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01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 1: now he shows up on highlight reels all over Sports

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01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: Center and every other sports highlight show, you know, throwing

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01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: from a side arm angle, throwing no look passes, which

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01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 1: may sound ridiculous to trust the rookie quarterback with, but

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01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: as a second year quarterback, Andy Reid trusted him and

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01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 1: it took him all the way to the MVP. It

2348
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 1: still doesn't, you know. You think about it and you say, okay.

2349
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was a national champion, beat the previously unbeaten

2350
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: Alabama Crimson tied in the national title game, you know,

2351
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: led his team to victory, was a consummate leader and

2352
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 1: had the resume that certainly looked more impressive on paper

2353
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: than what Pat Mahomes had to offer, who could not

2354
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: lead his team to big and great things. You know,

2355
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: a Texas Tech and I know hindsight's twenty twenty, but still,

2356
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: in all I'm surprised there weren't more people that were

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01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: on the positive side of the Pat Mahomes train than

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01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: the negative. But this vote kind of bears that out,

2359
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 1: albeit a small sample size. And again I go, you know,

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01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to put all my eggs in the

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01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah basket, but it's a guy who did that

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01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: job for eight to ten years in the National Football League,

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01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: and he had the same grade on Kyler Murray that

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01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: he had on Josh Allen last year. And to see

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01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as fifth on this list, and to not

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01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen on it in any capacity when he's

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01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: meeting all the traditional measurables that you need to runs

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01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: every bit as fast as Kyler Murray and can throw

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01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: it as far as Kyler Murray and sees over an

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01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 1: offensive line better than Kyler Murray. I just don't know

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01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: how people got there. I really don't you got you

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01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: got into it? You were We got the brownie we

2373
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 1: were looking for there for failing. It's about a half

2374
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: hour ago. It pays to be passionate where he is passionate. Hey,

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01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: our twitter question today, Which Bill's rookie faces the toughest competition?

2376
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: Who do you think who's up against it? Whether it's

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01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 1: looking for a starting spot or a spot of the

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01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 1: fifty three or just playing time. Give us your thoughts

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01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 1: on that. We got phone lines wide open eight o

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Speaker 1: three five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, And we can also read

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01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 1: your tweet if you send it into One Bill's Live.

2383
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: Which Bills rookie faces the toughest competition? We got news.

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01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's news at least a report on ziggy

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01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 1: ansa from Ian Rappaport. We'll talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: come back after the break. One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Chris Brown.

2389
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Speaker 1: Chris is in for a Steve Tasker. We got time

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Speaker 1: to talk with you about our topic of the day,

2391
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: but we want to bring this up. Ian Rappaport NFL

2392
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 1: Network rap Sheet tweeted this out sources. The Seahawks have

2393
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: emerged as the front runner to sign free agent defensive

2394
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: end Ziggy Ansa. They've visited with him in late April,

2395
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 1: I think with just last week, right, yeah, and they

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01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: need a big time pass rush yer after dealing Frank Clark.

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01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 1: The contract has not been finally aged yet. He also

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01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: visited with the Bills, who remain interested. And here's when

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Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday, Murf and I said, I

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01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 1: really think that ANS's preference is going to come down

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01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: to opportunity. I think he realizes, in all likelihood he's

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01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: signing a one year contract wherever he goes at this

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01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: stage in the game. And he knows if I'm signing

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01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: a one year contract and I want to get another

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01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: contract next year, I've got to be on the field.

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01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 1: So which roster affords me the best opportunity to get

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01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: on the field as much as possible? Here in Buffalo.

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01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 1: Number one, it's a rotational defensive system. Number two, you

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01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 1: have an entrenched starter in Jerry Hughes on one side,

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01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 1: and you have two other guys who have starts in

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01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 1: this league, and Shack Lawson and Trent Murphy. So there's

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01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: a very good chance, despite all of ANS's talents, with

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01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: his injury history, that the Bills would make him a

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01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 1: situational pass rusher here where in Seattle. They just traded

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01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 1: away Frank Clark, who all, by the way, for that

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01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: caller back at the top of the show who was

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01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 1: talking about maybe trying to trade for Jadeveon Clowney. I

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01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: looked at Frank Clark's contract with Kansas City, five years,

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01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and five and a half million, sixty three

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01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 1: and a half million guaranteed, twenty twenty cap hit a

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Speaker 1: twenty eight point three million. I don't know that many

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01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be interested in doing that, including the Bills,

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01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 1: but Ansa is a far cheaper option. But Ansa knows

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01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 1: Frank Clark is not in Seattle anymore, and I think

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01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: he realizes that based on how their death chart looks,

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01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 1: he's got a much better chance of starting there and

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01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 1: playing every single week, on every single passing down and

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01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 1: racking up a bunch of stats to prove he can

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01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 1: still play in this league. And that's gonna get That's

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01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: what's gonna get him another contract next year. And his

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01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 1: agent is probably thinking the same thing. Sure, well, we'll

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01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 1: see nothing to fish you yet. But the Seahawks out

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01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: of the front runner according to Ian Rapp Report to

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01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 1: get the Ziggy ANSA. We're talking about rookies here today,

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01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 1: which bills Rocky faces the toughest competition. What do you

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02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 1: think of that? Eight three fifty and toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty call on the

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Speaker 1: line from Dan in Florida. Dan, go ahead, you're on

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02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: the air with this. Hey guys, Um and Brownie. It's

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02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: nice to talk to um. So I think that answer

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02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 1: is not that bad side of a concept because you know,

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02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 1: I think that um, the guys on the right are

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02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:35,240
Speaker 1: not that's safe, you know, so you know, and then

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02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: you obviously have um, you know the other guy in

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02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 1: the least for one year lawson, Yeah, Shack exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

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02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 1: So I mean, like the thing is is that I mean, like, yeah,

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02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 1: we've got the money. You know, Seattle has less money,

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02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: so you don't know. Nice, Yeah, I think it's a

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02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 1: it's an option. I mean, if he's healthy, if that

2450
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 1: shoulder doesn't hurt, right, I'm just gonna run down the

2451
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,520
Speaker 1: list of names for you at defensive end for the

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02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. You compare him to who the Bills have,

2453
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 1: which obviously is Jerry Hughes, Trent Murphy, Shack Lawson, and

2454
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 1: then you've got guys like at A Yarborough and the

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02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 1: kid they just drafted, Darryl Johnson. So in in Seattle

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02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 1: you've got Quentin Jefferson, Rashim Green, Brandon Jackson, Nate Orchard

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02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,520
Speaker 1: who who was here last year for a minute, Cassius

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02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: marsh and then their first round pick LJ. Collier. So

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Speaker 1: do you feel better about beating that group onto the

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02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: field or do you feel better about beating the Bills

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02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: group onto the field, who also play a rotational system.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I kind of understand why Ansa

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02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: is trying to make it work with Seattle, because he's

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02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:45,240
Speaker 1: not And as much as Bills fans are saying, well,

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02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 1: this guy's only got a one year contract left. This

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02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 1: guy's contracts up after this year, So Johns is not

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02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: thinking about twenty twenty. I mean, ze, Johns is thinking

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02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: about twenty nineteen and getting on the field so we

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02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:57,080
Speaker 1: can get to a contract in twenty twenty, and the

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Speaker 1: best way to do that is to be on the field.

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Speaker 1: This year, he doesn't er if Jerry Hughes's contract is

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02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: up after this year and Shack's contracts up after this year,

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02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 1: and they won't be here in twenty twenty. He's trying

2474
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 1: to get on the field now so he can play now.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not waiting until twenty twenty. If he

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02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: doesn't get on the field this year, he may not

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Speaker 1: have anywhere to play next year. From the Bills per sective,

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Speaker 1: thanks for your call, Dan, for the Bill's perspective, how

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Speaker 1: much of a difference maker is Ziggy onset one that

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02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 1: you would, you know, go to the wall four, get

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Speaker 1: into a bidding contest. I don't see that. I don't

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02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: see I don't know that I want to do that.

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02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 1: I think in an ideal world for the Bills, he

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02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: is a guy that you put on the field in

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02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 1: pass rushing situations, obvious passing type downs because I'm concerned

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02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 1: about his ability to shoulder a sixteen game load where

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02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 1: he's getting sixty five percent of the snaps. Give me

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02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy to set the edge, give me Shack Lawson

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02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 1: to set the edge on rundowns, and then if you

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02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 1: want to line him up on obvious passing downs and

2491
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 1: go double speed on the ends with Hughes and ASA.

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02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 1: Sign me up, you know what I mean. I really

2493
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 1: think that's the way to go. You can even kick

2494
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Shack inside, which they did a little bit last year,

2495
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 1: and have him rush from an inside position in passing

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02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 1: down situations. I mean, heck, you go four dns across

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02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: the board. There were a couple of times they did

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02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: that last year. Took Kyle Williams and Star off the

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Speaker 1: field and they went Lorenzo, Jerry Murphy and Shack as

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Speaker 1: your front four. I think there are a couple of

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Speaker 1: times they did that in Houston and that might have

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02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 1: been the best pass rushing game of the season down

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02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 1: there in Week five so or week six. So you

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02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: know there are options there where you can get Onsa

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02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 1: on the field and pass down situations. And then if

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02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: you know you're only going to be using him as

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02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 1: a pass rushing specialist, maybe you're not ponying up the

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02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 1: same kind of money that Seattle is, who probably has

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Speaker 1: more of a full time role idea for him. That's

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02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 1: what at my point, I don't know that they need

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02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,040
Speaker 1: him as badly as Seattle does, and they don't think

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02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 1: they want to pay him as much as Seattle might

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02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 1: be ready to pay him. But we'll see. Just to

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02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:56,720
Speaker 1: report now that Seattle is the front runner for Ziggy

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02:03:56,800 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: on Call on the Line from Don and Jamestown go

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Speaker 1: ahead on the air of this. Hey, guys, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing. I just discovered your show here a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, just for the draft stret Okay, we've been down.

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Speaker 1: We've been on the air for two years, almost through

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02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 1: and a half, and I haven't missed a Billy game

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02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,080
Speaker 1: in forty five years, believe it or not. Wow, that's great.

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02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm not much of a team you watch you during

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02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: the summer either. So okay, as far as the rookie

2524
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 1: is going to make the biggest difference, with the veterans

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Speaker 1: at ahead of him, I just see had Oliver all

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Speaker 1: over the place. I think he's gonna make the biggest difference.

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Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to say, too, is when you

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Speaker 1: guys were talking about the quarterbacks there making that list

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Speaker 1: or not, and you were talking about what kind of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks they look for nowadays, Well, I think they're shorter.

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02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks get in there more because they're not allowed to

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02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 1: hit the Yeah. I guess there's some true to that. Yeah,

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02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a factor. Certainly. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: valid point. Absolutely, don thanks time, Thanks for your called time.

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Speaker 1: Now for Yancey's fancy New York s artisan cheese and falls.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Cheese it up the Chiefs. This is

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Speaker 1: an interesting story that got everybody's attention, a lot of

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02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: people's attention. Earlier today on nfl dot com, they had

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Speaker 1: the ranked the NFL's top ten offenses. The New Orleans

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02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 1: Saints ranked number one in this ranking. You know who

2541
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 1: was not in the top five. The Kansas City Chiefs.

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02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 1: Not in the top five of the NFL's top ranked offenses.

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02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: So true false. The Chiefs are not a top five

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02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 1: offense going into this season. True false. What do you think, Chris?

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02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent false on the capital F

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02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 1: A l se because as long as Pat Mahomes is

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02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 1: on the field, I think you can be a top

2548
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: five offense. I don't care what's going on with Tyreek Hill.

2549
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: They got enough other talent there. I think Kareem Hunt

2550
02:05:57,280 --> 02:05:59,360
Speaker 1: was somewhat a product of the system, so I think

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02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 1: he's replaced fable. I'm not saying Tyreek Hill is replaceable,

2552
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: but it's clear that the Chiefs made some security moves

2553
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:08,640
Speaker 1: in the event that Tyreek Hill faces major discipline and

2554
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: sits out part or who knows all of the twenty

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02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 1: nineteen season, but Patrick Mahomes is the difference maker there,

2556
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 1: so false for me, false for me too. This ranking

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Speaker 1: by NFL dot Com had New Orleans number one. They

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02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:26,520
Speaker 1: had Indianapolis number two, which is okay, I mean the

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Speaker 1: chief six from the list. I mean it's not like

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02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:31,320
Speaker 1: they were completely panned, but they are. Yeah, they're top

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Speaker 1: They're top five NFL. True or false? Number two. Eric

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02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 1: Ebron will break a tight end touchdown record by a

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02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: tight end this year. Do you see that common? Chris No? No,

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02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 1: tell me why. Number one. The only reason he did

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02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 1: get as many touchdowns at the tight end position as

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02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: he did last year was because Jack Doyle, one of

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02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 1: their other tight ends who gets a lot of playing time,

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02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:51,960
Speaker 1: was heard and missed about six or seven games, so

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02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: almost half the season that was number one. Number two.

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Speaker 1: This offense suddenly has more weapons in the form of

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02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 1: Devin Funchous. They drafted Paris Campbell, who I believe is

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02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 1: going to be on the field. More so, I think

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02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 1: that there are going to be too many weapons on

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02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 1: the field for Andrew luck to choose from. So I

2575
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 1: think his ability to pull in what has he got

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Speaker 1: to do? Eighteen touchdowns? Break Grons record? Seventeen, that's not happening.

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02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 1: Ibron talked about the other day. He said, if I

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02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 1: want to do anything that's gonna be real, spectacular, really good,

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02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 1: I gotta go get seventeen. And if I get seventeen,

2580
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 1: how about helping your team win a super Bowl. I

2581
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: helped my team win games. Yeah, okay, that was second. No,

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02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 1: come on, he said a second. You know what, I

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02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 1: would not rule this out. I think you think he's

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02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna get eighteen. Yeah, yes, I touchdowns. I would not

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02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 1: rule I would not rule it out. That's as far

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Speaker 1: as ill so I have to say. Maybe he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a good year again. I probably get thirteen fifteen

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02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: tight ends or touchdowns for a tight end. Well, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't record. I know, not ruling it out. That's my

2590
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 1: official position. I didn't know we had any career. I

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02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 1: think to be spreading that ball around too much. I

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02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't count on Devin Funcius not ruling it out. Oh

2593
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,120
Speaker 1: my god, they typed it in for you. We got

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02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,480
Speaker 1: this show by the throat. Good grief final number three

2595
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:14,440
Speaker 1: ride in the fence. So much on that one. That one,

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02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's he's gonna have another good year.

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02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,480
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he? Um? Now the other one is uh

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02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: true or false? Patriots should look to acquire Vikings tight

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Speaker 1: end Kyle Rudolph. They need a tight end. He is

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Speaker 1: a good tight end. Sure, I'll go true with that.

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02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:33,200
Speaker 1: Should look to acquire him. Yeah, I mean, Belichick likes

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Speaker 1: intelligent players. We're talking about a Notre Dame grad here.

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Speaker 1: Uh there. There are some that have argued that Rudolph

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02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:45,360
Speaker 1: has never been utilized to his fullest potential in Minnesota.

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02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 1: I thought that might change with the acquisition of Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: but it did not come to fruition. He has battled

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Speaker 1: injuries throughout his career, so there's that too. But hey, man,

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02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 1: if you what do they gotta do, He's gonna get

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02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 1: clipped there in Minnesota. That's the anticipation, right, I believe.

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02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 1: So so if he gets cut and you don't have

2611
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 1: to part with any assets, sure, why not? I'd say true?

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Speaker 1: That'd be a typical Patriots move. Yep, all right, there

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Speaker 1: you go. NFL True Falls Brought to you by Yancey's

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Speaker 1: fancy New York Chartistan chief speaking of Eric Ebron and

2615
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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Colts coach Frank Rereich is just about

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Speaker 1: a week and a half away from making his annual

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Speaker 1: visit to Western New York for the Call to Courage

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Speaker 1: Awards Breakfast. It's coming up May eighteenth, the eighteenth nual

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Speaker 1: Call the Courage Awards Breakfast Saturday, May eighteenth, a week

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Speaker 1: from the Saturday. Frank Wreich hosts this breakfast for hundreds

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02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 1: of folks at the High Regency Buffalo Ballroom and his

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Speaker 1: special guest winner of the Call the Courage Award this

2623
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 1: year is Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton from the Cincinnati Bengals,

2624
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 1: who should probably still get a warm welcome here. Tickets

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02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: still available at if you're interested in that five five nine,

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02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred. I believe we have what Andy Dalton on

2627
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 1: the show next week and maybe Frank Wright, both of

2628
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,640
Speaker 1: them on the show now, I tell you Dalton and Frank,

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02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: Frank's gonna have a lot of fun with that offense

2630
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 1: next year in Indy. Yeah, Paris Campbell, Yeah, big another

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02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 1: big target. Devin Funchiss, I mean Devin Funchiss, isn't a

2632
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 1: world beater, but being able to throw to a guy

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02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 1: with that kind of size in the red zone. Along

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02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: with Ibron and Jack Doyle, uh may even have a

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02:10:16,840 --> 02:10:20,120
Speaker 1: third Omo Ali Cox as another kid former basketball player

2636
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 1: can go up and get it. I mean, Paris Campbell

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02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 1: can fly, I got a weaponry and then and I'm

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02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 1: not I't even mentioned t Y Hilton, the best receiver

2639
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,200
Speaker 1: on the roster for the last five years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is gonna He's gonna have so much fun with

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02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:35,920
Speaker 1: that offense. Is next week, Andy Dalton on the show.

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Speaker 1: This next week they called the Courage Awards Breakfast. A

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Speaker 1: week from Saturday. Chris and I coming back One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Well,

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Speaker 1: now it's time for what have we learned? Presented by

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Speaker 1: Today we had Jured bellin from USA Today, talked about

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Speaker 1: a variety of NFL topics, including the Buffalo Bills. Says

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02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 1: he loves the way the Bills have sought to surround

2652
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: Josh Shallon with weapons and support during this offseason. Here's

2653
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 1: what he said. Kudos to them for saying, we've got

2654
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 1: to support Josh Allen and get him weapons and build

2655
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 1: it up around him. And look at the moves they

2656
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 1: made and you know, rebuilding the offensive line. I mentioned

2657
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:38,600
Speaker 1: that about Shady McCoy. You're gonna have like a pretty

2658
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:41,920
Speaker 1: much an entire new offensive line. Now, the question is

2659
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 1: how fast can that come together? Because typically when you

2660
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 1: talk about units, the offensive line is the unit that

2661
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:54,800
Speaker 1: takes the longest to develop chemistry and to jail and

2662
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 1: to grow together. So these guys may be talented, obviously

2663
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 1: they brought them all in for a reason, but you're

2664
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a little bit of patience. But

2665
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: then again, if you're better than you were last year,

2666
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 1: then you're you're still ahead of the curve. Your bell

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02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 1: from USA Today. We also had Cam Phillips signed the

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Speaker 1: show Bills wide receiver going into a second year. He

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02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 1: spent most of the first half of last year on

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02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo practice squad and then got added to the

2671
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:22,560
Speaker 1: active Roster's got a tough fight to win the roster

2672
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Speaker 1: spot on this year's roster at the wide receiver spot.

2673
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 1: But he has someone he learned and how he approached

2674
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 1: being at least half the season on the practice squad

2675
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:34,920
Speaker 1: last season, I actually, you know, set a goal for

2676
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: myself when I actually got signed to the practice spot.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, by week six or seven, I

2678
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 1: expect to be on an active roster. So, you know,

2679
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 1: I just try to stay consistent in my approach, you know,

2680
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 1: understanding every day, you know, try to get better at something,

2681
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 1: and you know, don't take these rests for granted, but

2682
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 1: you're going against the ones. So for myself, I get

2683
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:57,640
Speaker 1: to really practice, you know, against quality players, you know,

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Speaker 1: So just my consistency in my approach every day, trying

2685
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:04,080
Speaker 1: to work on a little things like the stancing start

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02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:06,720
Speaker 1: and you know, good body language if we have his

2687
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 1: own read here, you know, catching the ball consistently, and

2688
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, just all the things that you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I did that and the coaches

2690
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 1: saw that. There you go, Hey, Chris Ron Brown, and

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02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about our Twitter topic today and I

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02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 1: don't know if I come up with an answer when

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02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 1: we ask fans which Bill's rookie as the biggest challenge

2694
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:27,560
Speaker 1: ahead of them. What do you think, what did fans field?

2695
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:30,600
Speaker 1: What's your saying to that? Well, I mean I think

2696
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:34,320
Speaker 1: they're looking at the death chart and saying, who's really

2697
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 1: got the toughest job of getting back on the field,

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02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's gonna be tough on offense

2699
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 1: and defense. Special teams is where most of these guys

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Speaker 1: are going to see the field if at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about the deeper roster now, Murph, it's

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Speaker 1: a better roster. Hey, thanks for our production assistant George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Simoder, Kelly Rude, JJ Teredo, Kevin Cargis,

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Speaker 1: Jeames Robe. Our producer Jay Harrison was here tomorrow. Chris

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Speaker 1: is back tomorrow at twelve noon. One Doll's Live presented

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