WEBVTT - Fantasy Football 2019: Panthers and Bucs Previews 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:35.760 Friends too. Yeah, now's welcome your bab your host by 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:45.880 date from Mane Spun, your co host by died from 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:51.920 SAT Francis Frank standfall ladies and tell me your ps 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.280 and with that we'll look at you inside Studio thirty 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.920 four is the BFFs. That is Frank Staffel, I am 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.400 Greg sauceman Eric Young alongside as well. We made it 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.000 halfway through the NFC South yesterday and given the fifty 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.200 four minutes we have remaining, we'll get to the other half. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.360 We hope, we hope that's exactly right. Greg. Happy hump 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.160 Day to you, buddy. Had to sleep last night. I 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.200 slept pretty well alright, if I remember correctly. How's the 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.880 scott fishball going today? I heard you're you're moving along 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.240 very quickly. Well, I know, I was very interested in 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.040 an update. Uh so I made the last uh the 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.199 last pick of last night, I believe. Um. I texted 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.840 you guys around twelve or some made my pick. Uh. 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:40.039 Since then, that was about fourteen hours ago. Uh, there's 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:45.759 been one pick? Is it the same culpra as before? Oh? 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:50.160 My goodness, the same exact person. God. We yesterday we 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.240 were on the show and we were talking about how 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:57.120 one person hadn't hadn't picked for six hours. Now he 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:03.080 has not picked for another six hours. It was funny. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.000 Like five rounds ago, Greg, we're now officially the slowest 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.720 draft in Scott's fishbole. I'm sorry this must be killing you. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.080 Why how are you man? I'm doing good, Man, I'm 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.320 doing good. Uh, yesterday was was fun man. I enjoyed 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.959 doing the show again with you guys. That made me 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.680 think about all kinds of stuff. Fantasy football season. We're underway, 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.600 we are, We're here, and it's it's awesome. It makes 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.040 me super super super pumps to have you here along 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.800 with us. Fantasy football season is clearly underway. We had 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.160 a massive argument breakout in the control room down stairs 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.520 over Leonard four Net, which is excited to get him 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.359 next week. Unfortunately we're doing the NFC South to the South, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.840 so I'd love to hear coming up next week. Might 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.840 have to invite Sean Gassimakia and Steve sata boy E 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.239 y s thoughts on four Nett as well, um, but 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.079 with just an to do it before the break and 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.880 I'm not gonna start the next team yet, but any 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.520 other thoughts Frankie when it comes to Atlanta or New 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:03.120 Orleans since yesterday, No, I mean nothing really stands out. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.160 I think we got to a lot of them. Like 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.280 we didn't really talk about Jared Cook. I mean we'll 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.560 have time to do that once we get into like 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.400 position previews. So then we'll get into Jared Cook and 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.520 how he fits in with the New Orleans Saints. But again, 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.919 if we expect their pass volume to come down a 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.400 little bit, then is there really going to be that 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.359 much to go around with Jared Cook? So when we 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.360 get into the tight ends later on in the draft season, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.600 we'll talk about Jared Cook. All right, we'll take a break. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.799 When we come back, Eric Young, Frank Stample and myself 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.680 breakdown now Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Bruce Arians back and why 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:38.040 it matters to us and that comes your way next. Hey, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.120 thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember if you want 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.960 to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.920 the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.000 Radio Network and you could listen to this program live. 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But now that Bruce Arians is there, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:51.440 everyone's back on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers bandwagon. Arian's got 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.880 a year off to refresh himself and now we all 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.600 jump back in. So I'm gonna start with you. Is 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.280 it a bit premature to jump back in on a 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.160 Bruce Arians offense. I mean, by the time he was 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.800 done in Arizona. Maybe it was based on their quarterback 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.599 usuing all the injuries, but it kind of just felt 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:11.920 like he was mentally done, that what he believed in 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.280 the NFL didn't necessarily work as well as it did 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.320 in his early years with the Cardinals. Again, it could 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.360 be really the injuries, certainly, and it could be related 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.120 to just getting a mental break. But now he's in 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.360 Tampa Bay. Is it all just gonna go back to 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:31.000 what we thought it should be? For me, this is 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.560 a super interesting coaching change. Um. I like Bruce Arians. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.280 I loved the Cardinals. Um I have a couple of 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.680 Cardinals hats. I'm kind of high on the Cardinals this 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.680 year just because all the interesting stories drafting Murray in 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.680 the first round and this new offense that's supposed to 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.720 be prolific and it's college style and will it work 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.440 in the NFL? But Arians was was that guy first? 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.080 You know, he was doing different kinds of things five 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.240 or six years ago, and I loved his coaching style. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.599 I think it fell off. I mean with anything, things 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.480 gets dale and and with coaching, I think, you know, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.400 players eventually stopped hearing your voice and stop doing what 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.760 they're told, and you get tired of the same old 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.160 things and him saying the same things. All coaches have 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.240 a shelf life, except for Bill Belichick. Maybe, um so, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.040 maybe it was hard for him to move on, hoping 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.000 he comes in fresh. They are loaded with talent all 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.080 over the field. On the offensive side of the ball, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.920 and I'm I'm pump man like I got. Mike Evans 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.960 is my tenth overall pick. Mike Evans tenth overall on 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.920 eui's big board. He is buying, he is buying hard 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.960 on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Frankie, you're right there with him. Yeah, yeah. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.000 And I think a lot of what happened with Bruce 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.840 Arians the down years that he had as their head coach, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.040 specifically their offense was due to injuries. Greg. If you 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.120 look at the five years that he was with the Cardinals, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.360 they ranked top twelve in total offense. The three years 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.800 that Carson Palmer was healthy in they ranked twenty four. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.840 Carson Palmer got hurt. That was the year that Drew 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.080 Stanton stepped in and seen the final season that Bruce 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.520 Arians was there calling plays, Carson Palmer also got hurt, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.680 and then blame Gabbert All No blame Gabbert. Journeyman in 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.880 the NFL came in, stepped in in their offense ranked 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.560 twenty two. But let's not forget Carson Palmer put together 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.560 a career year through like thirty five touchdowns. Their offense 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.920 finished first overall in the entire NFL total offense they 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.480 finished first, So I think that there's a lot to 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.800 be excited about with not only Bruce Arian's mindset, but 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.880 obviously the weapons at the Tampa Bay Bucks possessed because 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.320 they have Damis Winston, who obviously brings a high pedigree. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.680 Because of where he was drafted in the NFL draft, 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.080 he hasn't been able to necessarily put it together. They 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.520 have Mike Evans, they have Chris Godwin, they have Ronald Jones, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.920 and they also have O. J. Howard. So there's a 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.680 lot of really interesting pieces on this offense. I'm I'm 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.760 close to where e Y is that I'm very excited 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:53.120 about both this marriage of Bruce arians style of offense 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.080 and the weapons that they have there already. Greg, all right, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.320 so let's let's start here with like Evans. He said 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.280 he's the number ten overall player on his word, I'm 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.040 looking at like my Scot's fish bol For instance, Mike 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.320 Evans wound up being the eighth wide receiver taken. I'm 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.800 not worried about where he went because the quirky rules 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.600 or whatnot. He was the eighth wide receiver taken after Hopkins, Adams, 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:20.760 Julio Michael Thomas, juju Um, Keenan Allen, and Odell Beckham Jr. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.800 That sounds right to you, Frank, I think that Mike 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.000 Evans should live in the second round. I would probably 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.560 take him ahead of Antonio Brown just because I liked 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.120 the Bucks offense a little bit more. Uh. Look, Antonio 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.719 Brown is gonna be a target monster this year. And 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.280 we'll get into more of the Raiders talk when we 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.880 get to the a f C. West. But I just 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:45.800 think Mike Evans is potential for targets. His efficiency went 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.000 up last year. His potential for touchdowns, which we've you know, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.319 we've seen in the past. He has two seasons of 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.559 double dig touchdowns already in his career. I mean, I 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.920 looked this up before the show. Greg. There's an awesome 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.880 stat on Mike Evans. He joins A. J. Green and 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.040 Randy Moss is the only players in NFL history to 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.560 start their career with five consecutive seasons of one thousand 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.720 receiving yards. So, I mean, that's that's pretty good territory 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.679 to be in there. We know that the talent is 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.599 there with Mike Evans. Um, you know, a hundred and 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.959 seventy nine targets are gone from this team now, with 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.160 Adam Humphries gone, with the Shawan Jackson gone from this team, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.680 and you know that's why people are buying into Chris Godwin, 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.199 which we'll get into. But look, there's a lot of 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.480 targets gone, and Mike Evans was already a target monster. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.760 So I think the potential for UH targets, receptions, yards 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.920 and touchdowns it's all there for Mike Evans. I mean again, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.920 it's just the marriage is perfect here for fantasy purposes. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:44.320 Greg Eric Frankie mentioned Chris Godwin, who, much like Hanny Golladay, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.400 bursted onto the scene in middle round pick and people 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.200 were immediately excited about him. Now Tam was clearly excited 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.520 about him. With Bruisiians as the head coaches, they didn't 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.600 do anything to replace Adam Hume Freeze or do anything 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.880 to replace the Sean Jackson. They just like Chris Godwin. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:01.120 It's your time, now, how early would you draft Chris Godwin? Um? 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.800 I I feel like the hype is kind of getting 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.840 out of control, but this happens with players that that show. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.719 He looked really good last year, even in a not 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:16.640 massive role, but having Humphrey's gone and the offense is 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.480 going to be different. I think they're going to throw 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.559 the ball more. The running game is questionable. Um, I 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.400 think with between the two guys, I think it can 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.839 be serviceable. Ron Jones is a sleeper of mine. I'm 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.520 not going to pick him high or anything, but if 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.800 he's there and like the mid to later rounds, I'm 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.680 going to take him because of his pedigree. Obviously last 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.319 year was a nightmare. But um, Bruce Arians and whoever 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.560 the number one running back, that's that's a recipe for success. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.040 So Chris Godwin, I mean where he's going now, I 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.199 think it is still okay. But I think as as 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.480 it goes, he's going to keep moving up. Since July 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.760 on the NFC, Chris Godwin is the twentie wide receiver 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.840 off the board that is at pick forty seven pick 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.720 forty seven on average. But how can you argue it though, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.679 I mean the opportunity is there. He's going to start 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.160 on the outside. I mean he's a verse of a 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.360 wide receiver too. He can move inside. We saw it 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.599 that last year. You can play a little bit in 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.280 the slot. He could play on the outside as well. 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.439 Greg he led this team in red zone targets last 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.000 year with sixteen only playing scent of the snaps. So 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.080 I would imagine, as you know, he steps into an 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.280 every down kind of role now as a starter, and 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.800 he's playing more snaps in that snap percentage you know, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.280 gets up over eighty five percent of the snaps. You know, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.880 more targets will be there, obviously, you know, I mentioned 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.040 how many targets are up for grabs with Adam Humphreys 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.600 now gone and DeShawn Jackson now gone, he's flashed. I mean, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.040 I think he could do a little bit of everything. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.520 I think he's a good route runner. I think he 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.800 has strong hands, you know. I think he could be 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.120 a possession receiver. I think they can use him in 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.600 the red zone if teams are double teaming Mike Evans. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.240 It's hard for me to really critique where he's going 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.960 in draft because at a DP right now, I mean, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.480 at that four or five turn, he's go right around 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.880 guys like d J. Moore, Mike Williams, Tyler Lockett, Calvin Ridley. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.880 These are all breakout candidates. And you can argue that 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:13.320 his opportunity, coupled with bruce Arians mindset and the scheme here, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.480 the fit and you know what we expect James Winston 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.079 to do. How can you argue with him going ahead 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.440 of all those other breakout candidates. I think his opportunity 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.560 is probably the best. I think this area is probably right. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.000 I think it a lot of it doesn't depend on 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.400 what you're looking for you looking at it. But it 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.880 surprised you if he's better than Robert Woods. Greig. I 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.640 know you're the Robert Woods guy, but there's three wide 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.600 receivers in Los Angeles compared to two wide receivers for Tampa. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.520 I know James he's gonna get his too, but is 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.480 he gonna get as many targets as like the third 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.079 wide receiver for the Los Angeles Rams. I'm not so 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.280 sure he's gonna get that many receiver in the Los 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.080 Angeles right, But we know that they mix and match, 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.600 you know, like they're pretty consistent for the most part, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.000 but most of like is it are all three of 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.559 them going to go off in every single game? I 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.880 guess my question is when you look at Bruce arians historically, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.560 has he even able to And I don't know the answer. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.000 I'm just throwing it out there to you guys, like 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.199 hasn't been able to have an offense that boasts two 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.319 thousand yard type of wide receivers because you're at the 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.559 guy at twenty overall, you want the potential to have 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.280 a thousand yards, to have closest double digit touchdowns. Can 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.120 this offense produce that well? I know he did it 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.680 one year with he put together Fitzgerald and John Brown 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.559 when John Brown was still in Arizona. And then was 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.920 John Brown's career year right where he went up over 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.400 a thousand yards and he had like six or seven touchdowns, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.280 finishes like a top twenty four wide receiver. And I 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.559 think that's what we're expecting Chris Godwin to do and 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.720 just to piggyback off of you know what Ey said. Look, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.920 we could be excited about Ronald Jones. We'll talk about 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.040 that more when we get back, but they don't really 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.280 have a run game to speak of as of now. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.720 So if they have to lean more on the pass, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.200 I think that only works in the favor of both 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.800 Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. I think this Tampa Bay 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.400 team is gonna have to throw the ball even more 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.120 than the Arizona Cardinals had to do in years past. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.320 When Bruce Haarians was with them. Let's take a break 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.839 here e I mentioned Ronald Jones as a sleeper. We'll 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:04.240 get Frank's thoughts on that coming up next. From the 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.760 NFL to the NBA. Daily Rohodo dot com is the 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.280 place to win millions in daily fantasy. 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All right, e I mentioned or Rojo 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.680 as a sleeper, and he's certainly not the only one 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.320 to mention Ronald Jones here in year two. You're talking 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.520 downstairs about Philip Lindsay in year two, and of course 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:37.200 that inevitably leads to Ronald Jones, who struggled all last 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.880 year injuries and ineffectiveness. And yet all season long we 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.560 were on the bandwagon, off the bandwagon, and all the 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.480 bandwagon we kept wanting to believe. Well, you can keep 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.840 believing it never never happened. Peyton Barber almost from day one, 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.120 held on to that job, and end of the season 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.280 with that job. Reports had a training camp, say or 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.320 not training camp, minicamp say, Peyton Barber's still a guy. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.320 But fantasy owners are rightfully so look the talent of 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.920 Ronald Jones. Look at what Bruce Arians has worked with before, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.520 specifically David Johnson, and you're like, well, Ronald Jones best 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.080 fits that profile. Fantasy owners right now, Frank are getting 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:18.520 in on Ronald Jones. And and the discount isn't exactly 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.040 well huge by any means. People seem to like Ronald Jones. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.240 If you look at the running backs over the nffc 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.000 Ronald Jones is going off the board as the thirty 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.560 eight running back around pick one oh five. It's not terrible, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.080 it's not outstanding. I would say, what do you think 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.080 about Ronald Jones going forward? I'm interested? How can you 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.000 not be right everything we just said about the Tampa 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.360 bay Bucks offense. We expect them to score a lot 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.440 of points this year. They're gonna get down the field. Look, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.120 it's more so a vertical passing attack. But we have 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.560 seen the upside of what a running back can do 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.600 inside of Bruce arians offense. Now, I will say this, 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.640 outside of that one monstrous David Johnson season, it's not 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.840 like Bruce Arians produce a ton of fantasy viable running backs. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.040 There were years where like Andre Ellington let us down 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.119 Chris Johnson was the starting running back in Arizona, and 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.119 maybe he just didn't have the right running back for 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.280 his system. And maybe, you know, once he got a 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.119 guy like David Johnson, he was able to bring that 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.720 to fruition. But Ronald Jones has the has a has 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.120 the potential to start for this Tampa Bay Bucks team 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:21.960 heading into the season. And if you look at his 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.399 ADP right now you mentioned it, Greg, He's going around 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.440 you know, one oh five a DP. He's one of 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.480 the last potential starting running backs being drafted off the 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.480 board right now. There was a report, you know, a 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.000 couple of weeks back that Greg Allman of the Athletics 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.159 said that he still expects, you know, Peyton barber to 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.359 lead this team in in rushing attempts and rushing yards. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.240 And you know, with all due respect to to Greg Alman, 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.920 look he's he's around the team a lot, so he's 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.920 got a pulse of what's going on there. Peyton barbera's 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.879 average three point eight yards for carrying. The question is 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.720 Greg Allman related to Dwayne Allman? I don't even know 0:17:55.720 --> 0:18:00.760 who Dayne Alman is. Greg. What it was there was 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.520 a Greg all of an Allman brothers joke. Come on, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.399 I couldn't say that I knew their first name. Continue, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.280 I have like five of their records downstairs. I just 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.480 don't know the first name. Basis well, I knew Greg 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.080 Allman and telling hiout Greg Allman or whatever. I'm pretty 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.040 sure it's spelt differently to Greg. But we'll let you 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.960 rock for now. Look, the fact of the matter comes 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.920 down to where Ronald Jones being drafted right now. It 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.760 would be one of the last starting running backs off 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.920 the board. You're getting at a good discount. You're getting 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:33.719 him in the nine tenth round. I wouldn't want him 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.560 as my RB three. I wouldn't want him starting on 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.520 my team. I wouldn't even want him as my starting 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.600 flecks to start the year. But if I could get 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.639 him as my RB four as some depth and with 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.400 the potential to start on a really good offense where 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.000 we expect him to score a lot of points, I'm 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.960 not gonna downplay his pedigree. Look, he was a second 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.480 round pick, but he wasn't Bruise arians second round pick. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.879 That is true. It was. It was the same GM, 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.520 but not but not the same not the same coaching staff. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.280 So you know, he's kind of inheriting that too. But again, 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.879 like they hate him. It's it's not like it's not 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.120 like Bruce Arians wanted Peyton Barbera on the team either. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.480 But they didn't do anything any of these players. You 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.560 didn't pick any of these players. I mean, someone's gonna play. Yeah. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.600 I don't like that argument. I don't think it's silly, Okay, 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.920 but I look, they had all off season to go 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.400 out and bring in a running back Craig draft one, 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.800 you know, sign a Levian Bell, sign a mark Ingram 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.399 something like that, and they didn't. So maybe Bruce Arians 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.320 likes one of these two, and Ronald Jones has the pedigree. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.120 Peyton barbara wasn't in draft undrafted free agent. You brought 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.080 up the fact that in the past, like I got, 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.560 like Andre Ellington led the way and they didn't really 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.200 run the ball. Ultimately, they tried and it stopped. It's 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.960 not it's certainly possible they do that. But I agree ultimately, 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.480 Ei like where he's going around pick one oh five, 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.480 that's probably that's fine. That's not costing you all that much. 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:56.080 It's not insignificant, but it's not costing you all that much. Ultimately, 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.840 let me get to O. J. Howard and Jameis Winston 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:03.480 here Wednesday. Tumultuous season last year, So Moulture's last couple 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.240 of years. I'd say under Dirk Cutter, this is his 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.040 last shot, essentially under Brusarians O J. Howard in year 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.120 two cameraon Brad coming off an injury. People are really 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.000 investing on both of these guys. E y, are you 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:21.200 you on both O. J. Howard and Jamis Winston? Yeah? 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.960 I think I am. And I think that just comes 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.760 down to I believe in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:27.760 And look, if I believe in their offense, I have 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.040 to believe in their starting quarterback. My my hope is 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:35.320 that Jamis Winston has matured and has become a growing 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.400 up and in his taking his craft serious. He's got 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.959 every two a possible big guy, can move pretty decent, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.639 can run a little bit, can make every throw short, long, 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:54.600 decent accuracy. Like he is a superstar quarterback. I mean, 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.040 he has the ability to be a superstar quarterback, and 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.160 I think the mental side of it is the only 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.760 thing stopping him, and in the end, in the NFL, 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.760 the mental side is the only thing that stops all 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.080 these guys. They're all freak athletes. They're all playing in 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.880 the NFL because they're in the five percentile of freak 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.920 athletes in the world. And but what separates them is 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.640 their mental side, their preparation, uh, you know, being able 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.200 to bounce back from mistakes, things like that. I think 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.440