WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Has To Step Up? 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:17.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.520 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:32.720 Star in Frisco. Stay here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:38.680 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.920 inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. We're here for the next 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.720 forty five minutes here at the Start in Frisco. Eighty 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.120 eight eighty five five two two ninety seven is the 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.320 number if you'd like to join the conversation. Rob Phillips 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.440 in for Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola to my right. Brian 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.440 brought us across the table from me. Welcome gents. How 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.560 are you today? Doing well? Good? Doing well? Another day 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:09.840 for the Cowboys practicing inside today on a Thursday. Keeps secrets? 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.760 Is that what it is? State secrets? Yes? Absolutely, the 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.440 whole world can't watch. Gonna watch Tristan Hill practice it 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.160 left guard and then practice and turn around and play 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.960 three technique today. That's kind of where they are right now, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.520 right that is where they're with Cowboys and Eagles getting 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.200 set Sunday night prime time. A lot of injuries on 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.640 this football team. Brian, Yeah, and you know, I know, Mickey, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.720 did you have any chance to update any to talk 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.800 to anybody that updated that stuff or anything like that? Did? 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.240 All right? I knew you would know. So if we 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.680 got time, I can go on alphabet here. You got 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.720 forty one minutes. We can go to the end of 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.240 the first segment, which is usually fifteen minutes from now, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.320 if we have enough time to get through it. All right, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:59.680 So starting with the A's Nornce Armstrong taking rolla with 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.160 his kind of neck injury, he should be good to 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:07.040 go and practice today. He worked out in pads yesterday 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.400 on his own to the side random bunch, so he 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.160 looks like he's good to go. I think Anthony Brown 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.160 is probably going to miss this game hamstring Randall Cobb. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.960 It's looking good at this point. Don't know that he 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.120 practices much today, but they're hoping by Friday and play 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:30.120 on Sunday. LEL Collins surprisingly is doing better. I would 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.000 say at this point he's questionable, but they need him 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.320 to practice to see exactly what he can do. But 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.880 he is getting better, right, He's better. Okay, that was 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.760 something I was worried about last week, we didn't hear 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.919 about the way. Yeah, well this week it's the other 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.440 way around. There we go. He may be doing a 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.079 little bit better than Tyranum. The hope is they get 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.240 one of those two guys back. So they're still that hope. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.840 I'm not saying it's gonna happen, yeah, but they're hopeful. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:03.440 Amari Cooper. I think what's going to happen there is 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.519 they don't want what happened last week. That you keep 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.560 a guy active and you put Devin Smith down and 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.560 then he just gives you three plays. Yep. So even 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.600 if he says I can go, I think he's going 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.000 to have to prove it so you don't come up 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.679 short and on your wide receiver active rosters Well said, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:25.040 because because obviously they didn't this right with him. You 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.520 know how quiet he is. He doesn't say much. Yeah uh, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.400 And so that that one they're going to keep an 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:36.320 eye on. Obviously, Frederick was not injury related. Sound like 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:42.440 he's back today Byron Jones questionable. So he's getting better 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.880 and he's improving more than Anthony Brown. So maybe you 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.160 get one of those two guys back. Um, As I 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.040 said Tyring, they want probably want to see him practice 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.880 before he plays. And then this one if you noticed 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.480 on Zach Martin they had him limited but it said 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.520 back slash ankle yep, and the ankle is a problem. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:10.960 Just what they need, right Yeah, so um, when it rains, 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.440 it's all a couple. It's like three positions here, that's 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.599 all taking hits, right, Like you know your body parts 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.239 of diseases. These are like body parts in the disease 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.640 hitting these different parts of the team. Now, Zach did 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.400 that come out of the game. I don't know if 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.800 it was bothering before and got asturbated during the game. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.560 Remember last year at the end of the year, he 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.839 had a heavily wrapped ankle in a lot of those 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.880 games at the end, So it might be something he's 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.919 aggravated from. That's something he's always kind of had to 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.560 deal with. So and you know, the Eagles aren't much 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.120 better by the way. Nope, they're not from a starting standpoint. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:51.240 They didn't have Nigel Brandham practicing yesterday, Fletcher Cox didn't practice, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.360 the Sean Jackson did not practice and has not practiced 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.960 for weeks with that abdomen. Timmy Jernegan with a foot 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.560 did not practice. Avonte Maddox who is their starting corner, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.680 Ye didn't hasn't played because of a concussion and looks 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.159 like he probably out. Jason Peters out with a knee, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.680 Darren Sproles out with a quad and if you think 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:18.680 about it, Ronald Darby who's been out, there's other starting corner. Uh, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.680 was on a limited basis, so they're not sure about him. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.440 And while Jalen Mills practice, I haven't seen them take 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.440 him off pup yet, so, uh, you know, and this 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.039 is just six weeks for him, right right, So he's 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:36.160 got he's got two more weeks on pop Yere So 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.760 I don't know if he knows that because I saw 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.680 quotes about how he was hope of the play on Sunday. Yeah, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.240 and it's like, well, I don't think so you have 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.600 to make a move there. Yeah, so we'll we'll see 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.240 where that one goes. So, uh, you know, And we 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.160 talked about yesterday. I think Brian talked about it. Broke 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.560 it down, you know, they were starting Sydney Jones in 0:05:55.160 --> 0:06:01.080 Rosuel Douglas. Yeah, they got deep touchdowns again, Rusul Douglas. Yeah, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.240 they got toasted them. The slow conveyor belt in the 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.599 training table there when you go to toast your bread. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.719 But that is slow, isn't it, Mickey, When you're waiting, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.560 they can't take you know, Mickey, I knew he would 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.600 be on top of that. The problem that that the 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.760 Eagles had, and only with the cornerback spots because people 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.000 have taken shots on them Minnesota just I mean it 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:28.000 was even though that Minnesota faced pressure, Cousin still gets 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.200 rid of the football and it's they they are not 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.279 even close to covering these guys, so that that could 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.520 be a problem. I mean, if you could protect on 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.080 the flip side of that for the Eagles, though, Peter's 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.839 not play means that Andre Dillard, who was a first 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.960 round pick for them, very talented tackle, will make that start. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.160 But you watch him play in games, he's not ready 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.760 to start. And you know he's a first round player. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.479 You know here you're thinking about, oh, he's a first 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.600 round he should be contributing, but you watch him play. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.120 He gives a on a ground. It's like he cannot 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.120 sit down on somebody. So can they take advantage of that? 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:10.360 Last week we talked about, oh, multiple sacks from the Jets. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.280 They have problems. Can they take advantage of a situation 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.720 with a tackle that's not in that game, being Jason Peters. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:22.000 Can they take advantage of Andre Dillard? You know, this team, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.080 as banged up as the Cowboys are, they just need 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.760 their good players to start playing better, the players that 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.920 they rely on. You know, they need they need more, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.680 a little bit more from Robert Quinn. I know he's 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.720 showing some stuff. They need some more from Lawrence. You know, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.720 they need more from Elite Collins. They need more from 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.520 Michael Gallup. I went on that big rant. But this 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.480 is how you're going to win this game. This is 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.640 how you're going to find a way to win this game. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.440 Is banged up as you are, your good players are 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.480 going to have to play better than they're good players 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.280 because you're really in the same boat. Boat teams are 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.240 in the same boat injury wise, injury wise, poor starts 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:03.280 to games. They're very similar record, obvious place. Yeah, yea, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.760 so last year, didn't they have trouble at tackle and 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.440 they used ye ty Bye Tie was a guy yesterday? 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.440 Not use him instead of Dillard or well Dillard. Dillard 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.360 was the guy that they brought in against Minnesota, and 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.480 and and and kind of hearing a buzz coming out 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.480 of Philadelphia is that that Peters is not going to 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.160 play and that Dillard is going to get the start. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.960 That hurt That hurts Philly upfront for sure. Yeah, when 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.720 you're watching back the Cowboys pass rush and when we 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.320 talked about it, Sam Darnold got hit twice in that game, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.640 sacked once, um twice? Was he sacked twice both on 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.760 Robert Quinn rap and both hits by Quinn too? Boy? Yeah? 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.480 Are both those edge rushers getting doubled a lot? Is? 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.199 Are there some single opportunities there? Some single some single 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.960 opportunities there? They just not winning? You know, I think 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.520 with I watched Lawrence. Lawrence has always been so good 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.679 at gaining ground, gaining a corner and then been able 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.080 to kind of hand get rid of a blocker's hands, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.720 dip and get inside. You know, he's he's one of 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.040 those I haven't seen him with that combination of rush. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.000 It's you know the times where he's been close, he's 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.160 been low and he got the penalty one time. What 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.319 game was that was at the New Orleans game that 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.319 he got the call for the roughing the passer for 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.880 going low? Or was that the Green Bay game? I 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:24.400 think it was news. See that's when when when Lawrence 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.360 is good, he's playing in balance and he's using technique, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.160 and it seems like to me he just when he's 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.960 got these one on ones, he hasn't had the technique 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.120 that we've seen from him the past, where it's an 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.080 explosive first step, get rid of the blockers hands, get 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.520 him off balance, and then capture the quarterback. Hasn't had 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.800 that kind of consistency on the down after down that 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.000 he needs from that, you know, but he hasn't really 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.880 had any help inside there. You know, MALIEK. Collins, who 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.840 we were talking about, MALIEK. Collins, He's gonna come on, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.439 he's gonna do this a three technique that he just 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.960 hasn't played well enough to help. And then Quinn has 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.760 done the best he could. I think. I think if 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.920 you asked, if you said, hey, Robert Quinn's gonna come 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.040 in here and give you six sacks in four games, 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.960 I think you would be just like, what sounds pretty good? 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.120 Sounds pretty damn good to me. He's probably earning a 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.400 bonus with one more. I think, No, absolutely, so you know, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.880 if he you know, if you could get continue to 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.959 get him to play the way he has. But they 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.079 need also these linebackers to play better too. These are 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.680 the good players I'm talking about, the Jalen Smiths, the 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.840 Layton Vanders, just the Sean Lees, the Joe Thomas's. These 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.960 are guys that are good players. They're gonna need more 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.320 from them, and we've seen it in the past. We've 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.000 seen a Shawn Lee play against the Philadelphiagls. We've seen 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.080 a Layton vanderss a swing pass out to the flat 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.839 and on third down and he makes a tackle to 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.719 knock him out of field goal range to make him 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.640 have to punt in that game last year. They need 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.960 those types of plays in this game. If they're gonna 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.240 be down to Maury Cooper and Tyrn Smith and all that, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.920 they're gonna need some of these guys to step up 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.559 and play bigger than they have these last three weeks. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.400 You know, Rob, To answer your question, I don't know 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.640 if this is indicative of what happened in the game 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.080 against the Jets, but on that ninety two yard pass, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.719 they doubled Quinn and they kept the tight end to 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.600 that side. They doubled Collins and they singled block Connor 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.240 William I mean um Woods which you would imagine right 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.720 first down, your nice tackles, probably not going to get 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.640 double team. And they singled DeMarcus Lawrence and he got 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.440 run past the quarter he was getting there, and because 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.400 there was nothing in the middle, Donald just stepped up. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.920 That's right, and he went right past good. That's good. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.800 So that's that's the way they thought they were going 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.280 to block. And they and they kept five six guys in, right, 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.679 they kept the tight end in, they max protect and 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.080 as a matter of fact, the running back stayed in too. Yeah, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.360 probably what you could see from the Cowboys too. You know, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.920 people are asking me to have to happen, right, Yeah, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.880 you got. You gotta acknowledge that you got. If if 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.199 indeed it happens to back up tacks or even if 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.080 say Leal Collins plays not playing at one hundred percent, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.000 he might need some help. So you're gonna have to 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.160 do some of those things to help those guys out. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.280 When people keep asking about how many plays Jason Witten 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.440 played or whatever, well, yeah, because they went too tight 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.440 end right quite a bit. Try to help. They're trying 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.559 to help. I heard that this morning, you know that 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.320 driving in one five three, that was kind of their narrative, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.760 Well Witton continues to take more reps. Well Witton continues 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.480 to take more reps because they're trying to help these 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.760 tackles if they can. You know, there's situations where they 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.040 have they've been getting a lot of twelve personnel on 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:35.760 first downs and that's going to be a lot of 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.760 But to Micky's point, I think you have to. You know, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.280 people say, well, where's Devin Smith been, where's that long pass? Well, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:48.240 that was three man rush. Keep everybody in, max protect, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.360 and that's how you get the ball off. And that's 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.959 exactly what you're gonna probably see in this game. You're 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.920 going to see them max protect and try and get 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.959 that ball down the field. If the Eagles proved that 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.840 they cannot consistently cover that, and then you just got 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.720 to catch the ball. You go catch. They can't go 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.720 through a wide open Uh Michael Gallup's hands three times, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.000 as he said himself, No, you had three other drops too, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:13.840 if you if you look at it. So that's six 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.680 drop passes in a game that can't happen. And people 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.720 want to know, well, why are they off their slow start? 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.960 Are they not prepared? We' well, okay, I'm sure they 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.439 probably practice catching the ball last week, you know, just 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.000 catch it. So you can do all that stuff, but 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.680 you got to be able to come through when it counts. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.080 You know, the run blocking and maybe it was a 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.520 bad call on fourth and two. Uh, you know, come 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.840 up with something different. But your your two tackles missed 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.120 their blocks, yeah, so badly. And when you get brought 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.080 down from the back side, you know that's bad. Yeah, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.840 so yeah, you got to execute. It's it's not about preparation. See, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.800 everybody's just looking for an excuse without looking at facts, 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.760 you know, and just look at the facts. Just watch it, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.839 see it. Don't don't just buy into stuff. Fine line 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.600 with this offense, fine line with how they are when 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.200 it comes to not having all their players, you know, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.680 and not using that as an excuse. But it's a 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.760 very fine line because the difference between moving the change 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.600 might be a Michael Gallup curl that's caught for thirteen 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.920 yards that gets you inside the red zone and get 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.200 you a fresh set of downs, or having to kick 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.720 a field goal. Fine line is to your wide receiver 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.040 lining up incorrectly, running around and getting fifteen yards. Now 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.560 you've now it's basically a twenty twenty yard loss, five 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.240 yards for the penalty and fifteen yards for the for 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.280 the play you didn't get. It's a very fine line. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.360 This team cannot afford holding penalties. They cannot afford to 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.080 line up wrong. They can't afford drops. They cannot afford 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.480 drops at all, because again that puts them in some 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:53.400 bad down to distance situations. Margin for error drops a lot. Absolutely. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.720 Zeke lamented the run he had in the first series. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.360 Get outside, get outside, he had Travis. It's he Zach 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.720 Martin block and well inside, just pop that thing to 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.280 the outside. He'll admitted he saw it wrong. He cut 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.360 back in. You know, if you get out there and 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.960 get in space, get going, you know you can do it. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.280 You see it before. Darn it. Why did you just 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.360 gain twelve yards? Yeah? How do you see the running 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.280 game matchup for the Cowboys against this Philly front Because 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.600 to you, guys, point, if they do have one or 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.440 more backup tackles in the game, you're trying to do 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.480 some things to help your down in distance. And this 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.680 is always a game they fight for inches. It's in 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.600 the running game. I'm gonna give you a mix shot. Sure. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:38.000 Last year, ye first game Zeke nineteen carries one hundred 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.120 and fifty one yards and a touchdown. There you go, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.840 six catches for thirty six that's twenty five touches for 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.800 one hundred and eighty seven. Second game, Z twenty eight 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:52.680 for one thirteen in overtime, twelve catches for seventy nine yards. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.000 That's forty touches for one hundred and ninety two. So 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.400 you're gonna get criticized if you use Zeke in this game. Yeah, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.680 if if my math that's I'm never criticizing for using 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.320 Zeke I do. If my math is correct, that's sixty 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.400 five touches in two games or three hundred and seventy 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.840 nine yards. Yeah. And then having said that, Kirk Cousins 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.240 through for three thirty three. Well, see the thing about 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.040 it is too. This is where I think when and 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.120 I think Mickey correct me if I'm wrong. They were 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.840 full strength offensive line in both I think I think 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.240 that everybody was playing it needed play where they could 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:25.920 take advantage. And I went back and watched the game 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.040 last year. Mickey's right with all his numbers, But what 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.320 they did, they did some creative things as far as 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.560 old school creative, old school trap plays you get Fletcher 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.440 Cox to come up the field, you trap him it 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.160 with Sue Field. Next thing, you know, the things up inside. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.200 You know they got hats on hats, They got Martin 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.400 inside on the linebacker. Now the ball's going straight ahead, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.880 you know, you got some space right there. They were 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.320 able to They were able to pop some runs on them, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.000 just for some like some quick hitting type play. The 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.800 Eagles want to get up the field. They're very much 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.520 like the Cowboys, and they want to get up. They 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.040 want to attack gaps. You have to take advantage of 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.960 them getting up to feel and then getting bodies on 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.280 their second level guys. So you give Elliott the chance 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.760 to have the success that Mickey was just talking about. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.480 You know, if you look at Phillies run defense, I 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.840 know everybody's saying their second against the run, and but yeah, 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.760 there's they're also twenty ninth against the past one hundred 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.720 and eighty yards given up. That's been how teams, how 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:23.080 many sacks they have? Don't have that. I didn't ask something, No, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.040 actually I didn't. I didn't. I didn't mean to ask 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.200 something that that. You know, but I can say if 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.520 you could hold up, if you can hold up with 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.159 your protests only you mean that sacks that the defense 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.440 same as the Cowboys. There you go. Do you feel 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.160 like the Cowboys pass rush has been all that great? No, 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.160 it needs to be better. It needs to be better. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.320 See that's to me, this is this is a pretty 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.800 too evenly matched teams. It's it comes down to, in 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.120 my opinion, those fine line plays we talk about, are 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.800 you going to make receptions on third and six and 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:56.959 keep moving the chains or you're gonna have to kick 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.680 a fifty yard field goal? Exactly, That's why. And to 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.000 make Key's point where it's like, what's wrong with these 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.000 slow starts? Who's to blame? Are they not prepared? You? 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.719 Really this is boring. Okay, it's boring, but you have 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.479 to go back and watch each drive and see a 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.440 handful of plays that have contributed to stopping the drive, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.119 No question, that's looking at it from a logical standpoint. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.600 It's not as fun to just point the finger at 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.800 the play caller or the quarterback coach or the head coach. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.080 But that's that's really what's happened here. And some of 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.120 these are very makeable plays that they just haven't made. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.480 Just the facts, ma'am. Yeah, pretty much check Webb, check Webb. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.679 Are you a dragnet? I don't think I know that quote. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.680 I don't know the name of that man. Yeah it 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.240 is Bill Gate Was it Bill Gannon? 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