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Speaker 1: Edie Martinez in Real Life podcast Hi Baby, Hi Mama.

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Speaker 1: At that time, I'm gonna start at the interview. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, before we get to anything else today,

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Speaker 1: I have to say, this is our first This is

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Speaker 1: of all the years I've known you and done things

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Speaker 1: with you, We've done interviews, I feel like we've been

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Speaker 1: at events, concerts. This is the first time I saw

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Speaker 1: you in action from beginning to today, where you were

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Speaker 1: trying to fit this interview in in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a movie shoot and in the middle of what did

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Speaker 1: you have a show? Yesterday? Two days yesterday, two days ago?

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Speaker 1: We are in Canada, everyone, We are in Canada because

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Speaker 1: she is shooting a movie. Yes, and you have to

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Speaker 1: be up at what time? Uh? Four am? Pick up? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And what time is it now? It's some one a

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Speaker 1: m And weren't just starting, We're just starting. What is

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Speaker 1: that like? What is the thing that that moves that

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Speaker 1: drive like? It's a combination of knowing where I came from,

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Speaker 1: on where I've been, on where I'm going, where I

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Speaker 1: want to go, and just being independent and being a

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Speaker 1: woman in this very crazy, crazy cutthroat industry, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I feel like you know, I've

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Speaker 1: always been a person that kind of hustles, and I'm

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Speaker 1: like a workaholic, you know, And I know what my

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Speaker 1: my potential is. And sometimes when um, you know, you

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Speaker 1: have obstacles, you may not be able to reach where

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Speaker 1: you feel like you should be. I'm always trying to

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Speaker 1: beat myself, you know what I mean. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's where it comes from. Yeah, but you started in

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Speaker 1: the game young, and so when you're a young girl,

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Speaker 1: how old are you When I had my first record

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Speaker 1: deal when i was fourteen? Okay, so fourteen. But when

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Speaker 1: you when you had your first my first album came out.

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Speaker 1: My first album came out when I was twenty one. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's young in your life, you experience this big

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Speaker 1: thing that most people at twenty one can't even dream

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Speaker 1: of experiencing. Right, Do you feel like you always then

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Speaker 1: set up your rest of your life chasing that? Are

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Speaker 1: you setting itself up for? Like? You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: because how do you do trying to Are you trying

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Speaker 1: to top that? Really? Always? You know what, It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud and content with what I've accomplished in

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Speaker 1: my career, but I'm always trying to do more and

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Speaker 1: do better, you know what I mean. And sometimes people

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Speaker 1: take it as I'm an appreciative and they're like, yo,

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Speaker 1: You've got to slow down and appreciate the moment. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I did, and now I want to get

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Speaker 1: a new moment. You know what I'm saying. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I appreciate it seriously, genuinely I do.

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Speaker 1: But I'm always like, Okay, now, what what else can

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Speaker 1: I do? What else can we expand with? You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? So well you always like that, like

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Speaker 1: and she was always like, yeah, that takes a lot

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Speaker 1: of It takes a lot. It's like, Okay, we have

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Speaker 1: a show this weekend. Okay, let's do a walk through,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So my mind is always

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Speaker 1: constantly killing ten birds with one stone? Do you think

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Speaker 1: that because I've been doing a lot of talk about this.

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Speaker 1: I was at a Tenner party recently. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about our superpowers, like what what are the things that

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Speaker 1: make you you and make you successful in the world

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Speaker 1: and the unique things that are like and so for mine,

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Speaker 1: I always say, like, I think I'm a super empathetic person,

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Speaker 1: like I could kind of put myself in people's shoes,

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Speaker 1: even bad people sometimes because you know, I always think

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Speaker 1: our circumstances make us who we are whatever. So that's

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Speaker 1: like one of my things. Have you ever thought about that?

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Speaker 1: For you? Like, what do you think is the thing

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Speaker 1: that because you've had phenomenal run, the fact that you

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Speaker 1: still here, you still look as good as you do,

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Speaker 1: You're still you're still trending topics will get to that

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Speaker 1: coming up in a little bit, But like that type

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Speaker 1: of stamina, that type of what you've been able to do,

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Speaker 1: do you ever think about what that is? Like? Why?

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I was talking to one of

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Speaker 1: my attorneys today and he called me a unicorn because

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Speaker 1: he knows what I've been going through, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, a couple of months, you know,

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Speaker 1: and even last night, you know, I was on the

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Speaker 1: phone arguing, you know, with the team just about what's

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Speaker 1: going on. And when I showed up to set, I

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Speaker 1: knew on my lines, you know, I was on for

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Speaker 1: I had to sing today on set, you know. So

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Speaker 1: it's about just living up to your best being, in

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Speaker 1: your best, highest version of yourself. That's what I feel

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Speaker 1: like all the time. Yeah, but in reality, we can't

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Speaker 1: best effort, you can't, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the that's the difference. Try and focus on what it

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Speaker 1: is and get what you can done. Do you ever

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Speaker 1: disappoint yourself? Yeah? I do, because yeah, I hold myself

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Speaker 1: accountable and I hold myself to a very high standard.

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Speaker 1: Does it take you down? Like does it like if

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Speaker 1: you let's say, you put out something and it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't do what in your heart? I'm furious, Like where

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Speaker 1: is that? I'm devastated, like sad or angry both, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't let it last too long. And the people

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Speaker 1: around me are like it's over, move on, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, Okay, it hurts for a minute,

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Speaker 1: keep it moving. Sometimes it's for me sometimes certain things

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Speaker 1: like sit in the pit of my stomach and I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 1: should I have done that? Maybe I shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm a lever, so I'm back and forth.

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Speaker 1: I'm flip flop, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what is there is there one thing that you

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Speaker 1: could tell is that took you down or sat with

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Speaker 1: you that maybe you should have did differently. Do you

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Speaker 1: have like any regrets or any like things that you

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Speaker 1: would I have regrets. I do. And it's crazy because

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Speaker 1: you're not supposed to have regrets. I used to say

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Speaker 1: I don't, UM, but I do have regrets, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes having faith in people and sometimes UM trusting people.

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Speaker 1: I regret holding certain people to a certain standard and

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Speaker 1: just knowing that, you know, eventually I got let down

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Speaker 1: really bad, you know what I mean? So I regret

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Speaker 1: sometimes um having faith in that and people certain people.

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Speaker 1: But how do you then move differently going forward? Like

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Speaker 1: is there something that you look in people that are

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Speaker 1: like because sometimes we do make the same mistake over now,

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Speaker 1: absolutely you separate yourself from that. You learn the growth

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Speaker 1: is in learning learn from that. If it's your third

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Speaker 1: you move different You don't go down that path. What

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Speaker 1: can you tell us about um this whole murder inc

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Speaker 1: a story that has just been told in documentary Urban

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Speaker 1: joh On Drink Champs. You clearly decided not to participate

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Speaker 1: in the dock. Can you tell us why? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the world cause see why No,

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Speaker 1: I know, but I mean knowing that in hindsight and

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Speaker 1: seeing what they did. But I guess you probably knew

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Speaker 1: that from the beginning. Did they reach out? They reached

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Speaker 1: out to you? Yea, yeah, yeah, it definitely reached out.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot, it's a lot too consume, you know.

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Speaker 1: For the record, I love Murder Inc. You know, all

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Speaker 1: the guys, you know, John Crispy all, you know. I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with everyone. There's all love, you know. Um, It's

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Speaker 1: very unfortunate how Earth decided to handle his documentary, you know.

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Speaker 1: Um it's a little sad, you know, to see a

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Murder Inc. Legacy is so much bigger,

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Speaker 1: I mean. And I feel like we all worked so

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's so selfish and it's so um degrading,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, yeah, so did you watch it? Um?

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Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the I want to say,

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Speaker 1: a third that's the one you were heavily in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've seen at least clips of the

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Speaker 1: Drink Jamps interview. Absolutely absolutely. How does that? What's happening

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Speaker 1: on your phone the day that drops? What are those messages? Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like you know what. The surprising thing

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Speaker 1: but not surprising thing is I genuinely got a chance

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Speaker 1: to see how many people love me. I genuinely got

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Speaker 1: a chance to see like people that I may not

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Speaker 1: talk to every day all day reach out as I've

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Speaker 1: seen people defend me. I've seen people that I don't

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Speaker 1: know to defend me, you know, and that says a lot,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um My poem was going crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean Texas from exes and everything. You know what

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Speaker 1: is seeing you know, what is that, by your definition

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Speaker 1: the person that he is? Like? What is that to me?

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I feel like I feel like Earth

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Speaker 1: You see people that have um narcissistic ways, you know,

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Speaker 1: you see people that are very um selfish. You see

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Speaker 1: how we um carry that hurt and how long we

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Speaker 1: carry that hurt because I gotta imagine you've been hurt

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Speaker 1: in this. Absolutely definitely I've been hurt a lot, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not intentionally trying to disrespect people, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not intentionally going out of my way to try and

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Speaker 1: that's what he was trying to do? A million percent? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was torn when I watched it because you know,

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Speaker 1: I know Earth too, and you know I probably know

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Speaker 1: him as long as you do. Um. You know, it

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Speaker 1: was it was obnoxious. This is take me in your

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Speaker 1: relationship out of the equation. I'm just talking about the

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Speaker 1: behavior of that um And But also clearly he was hurt,

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Speaker 1: right clearly he he has his version of the story. UM.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, it's really not about that right now in

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Speaker 1: this moment, because he had to say, he had his moment,

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Speaker 1: he chose to do it the way he did. It's

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Speaker 1: really about how do you feel now because your name

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Speaker 1: was put all over the internet for all those days

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Speaker 1: while you were doing what prepping for this movie? A movie?

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Speaker 1: Doing shows and you've been so quiet for all these years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many interviews that you and I

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Speaker 1: have had where I know, damn well, what's your relationship

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Speaker 1: with a lot of people did but you never publicly

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Speaker 1: never publicly talked about it. I mean he insinuated earlier,

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Speaker 1: but this was this was different. The motivation was different.

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Speaker 1: I think when you when you've come to um a

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Speaker 1: realization that you no longer can manipulate or control somebody,

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Speaker 1: you just let go and then you you know, you

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Speaker 1: just vomit and it looks nasty, It smells nasty, and

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Speaker 1: You know. Make sure Olish is number one everywhere you

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00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it was was Lear and

426
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: Julie and Kevin Kaiser. Yeah, you know what I mean.

427
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: But don't get a twisted It wasn't just for a

428
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: shot because he was making a lot of money. Don't

429
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: be fooled. Of course, you know there was always you know,

430
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: something for self involved. Yeah, but still I'm sure as

431
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: a young artist, young girl, you're experiencing the success. I'm

432
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: sure that is appealing. Absolutely, you know what I mean. Absolutely.

433
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get in the head of like

434
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: young and shanty in that space, like, I don't know,

435
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: do you have regret about that? Do you feel like,

436
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, like you were taking advantage

437
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: of but like okay, mom says he took advantage, But

438
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you were young and and you know,

439
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversation about young women and how

440
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: somebody in their life with power, you know, flexus their

441
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: power and puts pressure on Yeah, do you think that

442
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: that was attractive to you? Did you feel like manipulated?

443
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Like do you feel like do you regret it? I

444
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: guess maybe all to another question, there is some regret

445
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: because again, me being the gullible Susie or the naive Nancy,

446
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: thinking that someone is a good person and they're coming

447
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: from a genuine place in their heart. You know, sometimes

448
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: I regret um believing in that person, you know what

449
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and believing that they really meant what they said.

450
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing I can do about that. I

451
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: definitely feel like manipulation played a heavy part into um

452
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Me and Earth situation. You know. Um He would say

453
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: stuff like, no one wants to record with you, nobody,

454
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, nobody really nobody works with you like that,

455
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, he would say

456
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: stuff like, you know, we're gonna keep it in the

457
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: families in house, and on one hand, he would make

458
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: it feel like family, family, family, And on the other hand,

459
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: he would tell me, nobody even likes you. You know

460
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're not gonna get beats from nobody.

461
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna give you ship, you know what I mean.

462
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: And it was hard because that gullible little Susie. Why

463
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: how come but I don't even know them? Why they

464
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: don't like me? You know what I'm saying, And growing

465
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: and becoming a woman and more mature, then you start

466
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: to reflect on on certain things, and it's like, oh,

467
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: that's what was going on. And then when I did

468
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: start to evolve and get in the studio with certain producers,

469
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: I would hear all the time y'all. We always reached out.

470
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: We always wanted to funk with you, you know, we

471
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: thought you didn't want to funk with us, and it

472
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: was like wow, you know. And it's crazy because me

473
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: and joh I think it was the night before he

474
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: went to jail, we had like a three hour conversation

475
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: and we both found out so much stuff and from

476
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: that moment we we had become closer than we ever were.

477
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: And um, I just feel like sometimes people conquer and

478
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: divide and keep people separate to do what they want

479
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: those people to do, you know what I mean. So, um, yeah,

480
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: I do feel like there was some manipulation. You know,

481
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: there were man, I mean, I don't even know if

482
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: I should say this. You know that there were threats.

483
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: There There were threats, you know, me dealing with Nelly,

484
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, um, there was death threats. You know. I mean,

485
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how serious they were because you know, again,

486
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: you try to personify this person that you're really not.

487
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: But we were saying not towards me, towards who I

488
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: was dealing with. You know, Um, you keep doing that.

489
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm you know, so manipulation definitely played a part, um

490
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 1: power flexing, but when you're weight around, you know what

491
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean. I just wonder when you snapped out of that,

492
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: was there a moment where you're like, yeah, this doesn't

493
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: work for me anymore. M I think for me, there

494
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: were conversations that we had. You know, Ear had said

495
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: stuff to me like, yo, I don't make mistakes. I'm

496
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: never wrong. I've never made a mistake. And I think

497
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: that's when I started to be like, that's dangerous because

498
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: if you really believe that, you're crazy. When I recorded

499
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: my last album on Universal, the Declaration, Um, I did

500
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: everything by myself. You know, he took a large percentage

501
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: and did absolutely nothing. Me and Chris became cool, and

502
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Chris was coming to the meetings and you know stuff

503
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: like that. The other guy, Yeah, the good gutty. But

504
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: at that moment it became, you know, his feelings were

505
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: more important than the business, and um, I think that

506
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: shows true for a lot of his decisions. You know,

507
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: the downfall of murdering his emotions and stuff did not

508
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: allow him to function and run the label like you know,

509
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: a functioning strong man would, you know what I mean? Um, So,

510
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I feel like around then, when I went independent and

511
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: realized that, you know, he would there was no purpose

512
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, for for for us to do business. That's

513
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: when I was like, okay, that's he's not the person

514
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: that I thought he was, you know what I mean.

515
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: It's very contingent, you know. So um yeah, that had

516
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: to be probably after the declaration, but it's so, what's

517
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: so sad? Is? Again? I think I saw him in

518
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: a basketball game, him and his son, I want to say.

519
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: This had to be in like a twenties, seventeen sixteen,

520
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: somewhere in that vicinity, and he came over to me

521
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: and he hugged me and he was like, Yo, what's up.

522
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, good to see you whatever, Hey, what's somehow

523
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: you've been my god? This is you know, I think

524
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: it was j J. You know, hugged the sun and everything,

525
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: and I felt like, okay, maybe we could be peaceful

526
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: and cordial, you know what I mean. And then you know,

527
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: the evil text started coming in, you know, and then

528
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: it's just like that's when I had to just accept

529
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: that he was just on a different path than me,

530
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I had to kind

531
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: of like fall back. You know, you could try again.

532
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm very forgiving. You know, I'm a liberal. I'm about

533
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: he's I used to text him, um white flag emojis.

534
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: That's that serious, that serious, random white flag emoji. You

535
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, we've accomplished so much.

536
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense for you to have this much

537
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: hate for me. You know, Like I genuinely, in my heart,

538
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: I believe that IRV wishes death on me a million percent,

539
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: a million million percent. That's horrible, It's crazy. And that's

540
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: why I feel like accepting that I was once a

541
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: person that respected him and you know, had genuine love

542
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: and you know, appreciated and you know, loved the work

543
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: ethic and all the things that we've done. That's where

544
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, Wow, so maybe I was wrong. But

545
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is, though, when this is like a

546
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: mixing business and pleasure problem, So when the when the

547
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: personal relationship is no longer serving. But see, let's clear

548
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: this up. Okay, we're not going to say relationship. We

549
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: dealt with each other, but having a like was ev

550
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: my boyfriend was that his girlfriend never really never so

551
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: well he was was he married? He was still married

552
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: at the time, right, he was My point, Earth had

553
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: several girlfriends, you know, So I'm a little confused by

554
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: the thought you know what I'm saying, and the label

555
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: and the description. Mm hmm okay, So back to your question.

556
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: The personal relationship, Well, whatever person, and when you when

557
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: you take that out of the equation, what does that

558
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: do to the business relationship? For some people you move

559
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: on and you keep doing business, and you keep getting money,

560
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: and you keep expanding your brand and you keep successful.

561
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: And for other people you turn bitter. How did it

562
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: affect your career? Um, I mean Earth got into a

563
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: dark place, like he was blocking a lot of things,

564
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, Um, I mean Earth

565
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: was like telling DJs don't play the record. You know

566
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like again, we already never called. But

567
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: that's something you know he did actual and and and

568
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: um again we already spoke about him now allowing me

569
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: to come to the studio. You know. Um, he was

570
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: just telling people don't work with me. He was telling people,

571
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when Um he told my stylist

572
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: at the time Rosie, who was they've known each other

573
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: way before we did. He she was his assistant before

574
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: I ever was signed o him around, so they had

575
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: known each other for a really long time. And he

576
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of was like, if you you funk with a shanty,

577
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: you don't funk with me. And that's what he told

578
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: every single person on the label in the building. If

579
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: you talk to Ashanti, if you go to Ashanti's birthday,

580
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: if you support her in any way, it's fuck you.

581
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: So that was like really weird for me. Did that

582
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: scare you in any way in terms of like your future?

583
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: Are you worried about your career at that point? You know,

584
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: it was scary. I will admit it. It was scary

585
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: because I understood that he had power and I understood

586
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: how the world viewed us together as a whole murder

587
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: inc you know what I'm saying with Earth being the

588
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: head of the label and you know, providing all of

589
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: these amazing opportunities. Um, you know, when a person gets

590
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: in that position to flex their power, it does become

591
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 1: scary and it's like, Okay, so if I don't agree

592
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: with this and I don't like this, and I feel

593
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: like I'm being forced and manipulated. What do I do?

594
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: How do I handle that? I still got bills. I

595
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: take care of my entire family. I take care of

596
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people. What do I do? You

597
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So's it's very scary. It's very scary.

598
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: You didn't let it make you want to stay that fear.

599
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I stayed for a while, you know, because you know

600
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: when someone is consistently saying to you, you ain't ship

601
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: fuck you, You're not even fucking fucking loyal. You know,

602
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I made you. I did. I made the world want

603
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: to fuck you. You know what I'm saying? Um, he

604
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: would say, you know, he would say, um, you know,

605
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: niggas want to suck you because I made you look

606
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: like that I made I made you fuckable in those

607
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: exact words. So sometimes you know, and like I'm strong,

608
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Again, Like I grew up

609
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: with boys. You know, I was always the only female,

610
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: but I was a tomboy. I had a dirt bike,

611
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: so you know, um, I was strong. I still am

612
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: very strong. But sometimes it would make me think about

613
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: things like damn did he you know? And then I

614
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: would have to snap out of it, you know, because

615
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: I started to trust my team more and and get

616
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: a team and build a team of people around me

617
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: that we're talking to me and explaining certain things and

618
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: strengthening my battery and sharpening my sight and my tools.

619
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: And you know, like Erv wanted his accounting to be

620
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: my accountant. You know, he wanted um, he wanted to

621
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: control all my finances. You know, he wanted me to

622
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: invest in It was Irvan jeffreies you know what I'm saying, um,

623
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, why they don't say my name?

624
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: It says Irvan Jeffrey, motherfucker. So now I could laugh,

625
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, but when you think about it in hindsight,

626
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: it is hurtful because this is a person that you

627
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: trusted and that you thought really had your best entrance.

628
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine that you were huge, you had huge records,

629
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: you were big artists. I gotta imagine people were swarming

630
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: when you became kind of a free agent, right, is

631
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: that that happened at that time or were you not free?

632
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't really know the business like what was happening,

633
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: but I would imagine where people who wanted to sign you,

634
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: people wanted to produce for you. There was. I went

635
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: in the studio with Dr Dre and it was like

636
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: a really dope moment. And I went and I played

637
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: records for him, and he was very impressed, and I

638
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: was just, you know, I was trying to act like

639
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: I was nervous, you know, And this is the first

640
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: time you're out of here with somebody else, out of

641
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: the squad, right, yes, not just not just something, not

642
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: just somebody talking about Dr Dre. Me and Dre were

643
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: talking about a deal, and when I was talking to

644
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Earth about it, he has said something like, well, I

645
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: want of anything you make, like for the rest of

646
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: your life, you know, like something crazy. But he was serious,

647
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, And I was just like, but I don't understand.

648
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: You don't want me around. You told me to get

649
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: the funk away from murdering. I get the funk away

650
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: from murdering. I go and try to get a situation.

651
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: And then you tell me, well no, because then I

652
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: want this and this and this forever. Okay, now what now?

653
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? You know? And then, um,

654
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: what did you do? I got to a point where

655
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm gonna stop the music

656
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: for a minute, and I'm gonna go to Broadway and

657
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: I did the Whiz and I was Dorothy and the

658
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Whiz and that was a completely different um, a completely

659
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: different layer and avenue and opportunity and just opening to

660
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: my career, you know. And it was something that it

661
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: forced me to take my mind off of what was

662
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: going on. You know, you got eight shows a week

663
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: to Mattney's on Wednesday, two on Saturday. You know, all

664
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: those lines, and it's not in a shanty concert. It's

665
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: an ensemble, so it's not like it's my fans coming.

666
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: I have to be all point, you know. Um. So

667
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: that was I don't want to call it a distraction,

668
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: but it was. It took a lot out of me

669
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: and I focused solely on that and that's why I

670
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: kind of like dipped off from the music for a

671
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: while because it was just so it was so negative

672
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: and it was just so vile, you know, um, and

673
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: I just it wasn't good for my spirit, you know,

674
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to be around it. And that's

675
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: what I did. Wow, And then how do you even man,

676
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: there's so much I feel like we're gonna be talking

677
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be it's gonna be your cold time

678
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: right to say to my god, because because Mike Guy,

679
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: I just I guess I'm wondering, like all the things

680
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: of somebody telling you you ain't ship without me, I

681
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: made you make another one who was Yeah, So you

682
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: don't believe that. You don't believe he made you absolutely

683
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: not funk out of here. What I believe is that.

684
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: And see, this is the thing. I'm not mad or hurt.

685
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: I can say. Yo, we were dope in the studio together.

686
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: Our chemistry was like unmatched. It was so dope. So

687
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: I know that and I respect that. You know what

688
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's just like I'm not tearing him down.

689
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tear him. I'm not discrediting him,

690
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I don't take nothing

691
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: away from everything that he put in. But you didn't

692
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: make me. You helped make me great. You pushed me.

693
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I will always give him that. You know, I was

694
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: writing battling rappers. I'm the only R and B female

695
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: on the label. He would do stuff like give all

696
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: of us a beat and be like, yeah, whoever writes

697
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: the best ship to it gets to be Huh. I

698
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: was here first. You know what I'm saying. So you know,

699
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: he pushed me and I will. You know, I respected

700
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: that and I'm grateful, you know, IRV. He was very

701
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: harsh sometimes if I wrote something, you know, he would

702
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: be like, man, that ship is bullshit. I don't like it.

703
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: Do it over, you know. And on one hand it's

704
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: good because it makes you be your best, and on

705
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: the other hand, it's just like, damn, you gotta be

706
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: that hard, you know. You know what's so funny. When

707
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: I was watching him on Drinks and Listen, we came

708
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: up similar in terms of like being around a lot

709
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: of dudes. I could definitely be in a room full

710
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: of guys and they talk crazy, but you're so used

711
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: to it and you can almost engage. I played, you know,

712
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: I played monopoly with herb or he's talking and with

713
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: screaming at each other. I have guy friends like you

714
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: have guy friends. But something as I get older, sometimes

715
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot line. It's like a fine line between

716
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: how you talk. I don't know. For me, that's just

717
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: me personally, I have I have changed a little bit,

718
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: like things that I tolerated when I was young, just

719
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: because I was comfortable in the room. You talk, you

720
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: called you say something to me, I'm gonna say something

721
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: back to you. That's how I was, That's how I survived,

722
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: That's how I came up. I was around dudes all

723
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: the time, so they were like bitch, and I'd be like,

724
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: fuck you you you know, I would just get in

725
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: there and play dirty. But at a certain point, you go,

726
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: you know what, don't talk to me like that a

727
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: million you know what I mean? You have to like

728
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: buckle up anyway. And I wonder for you because you

729
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: were around a lot of those, a lot of the

730
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: same type, right, dudes that talk crazy, but we're used

731
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: to it. At some point did that I don't know,

732
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: did something switched for you there? Uh? Because it's one

733
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: thing I don't know. It's hard because it's different when

734
00:45:54,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: you care when you don't care. It's like, you know, yeah,

735
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: I guess, Okay, fuck you too, you fat bit your

736
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: ass motherfucker? Now what really good? I feel like, you

737
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: know or fuck? You know? I don't want to suck you.

738
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, thanks, no, you know

739
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like, is there anything else

740
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: you want to clear up about the dock because it

741
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: wasn't just that. It was like, I don't know, is

742
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: there anything that was said about you that you feel

743
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: was unfair or has anything that embarrassed you about it?

744
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: Um or you know what was crazy to me? I'm

745
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: trying to understand why Earth thought that it was good

746
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: or cool to put on national television on b et

747
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: a shot. You got a fat ass, and I'm sitting

748
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: there looking at the ass and she got these little

749
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: sweatpants on. Why do you think that's cool? Mhm? With

750
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: everything that's going on and with women with like gender equality,

751
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: with women being taken advantage of, because like tone deaf,

752
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: my god, you just leaped up the building. What's happening?

753
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Why nobody's saying that to you? I read an article

754
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: about there was somebody who like wrote an article about

755
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: the drink Champs interview. I wish I should pull up

756
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: her name because it was a dope story. But she

757
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: was saying two things that I thought was interesting. One,

758
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: it's like, you know when women just say women are

759
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: entitled to say no even on you know, big, real,

760
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: big level scary levels. But also I'm like, yeah, no,

761
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: this doesn't work for me anymore, and they shouldn't be

762
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: attacked for that. A million at any point, which I

763
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: found really interesting. But also in the article, she was saying, how, um,

764
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: it was really hard to watch nobody everybody laughing like

765
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: it was okay? How they were talking about you on

766
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: that How did you feel about that? Because there has

767
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: been conversation we know, you know, Joe Fat Joe put

768
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: had some comments about how he felt about how herb

769
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: was talking. I saw a lot of like chat about

770
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: how maybe Josh should have handled it. Um. I had

771
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: a conversation with John, you know. And it's funny because

772
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: me and Jah had a conversation about this interview months ago.

773
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: You know, he told me and um, when I saw

774
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: it first of all, I heard that it got edited

775
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: sixteen times, so what we saw was probably the light

776
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: version of what really happened. Yeah, and to be honest,

777
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I think John told me that, you know, so um, um,

778
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: wait what were you saying? You said you talked to

779
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: him about it? Oh okay, So yeah, So I talked

780
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: to John about the interview and I was like, yo,

781
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, you should have said a little more, you know,

782
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: and he's like, but Bonnie, I'm Switzerland, but Jah, when

783
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: you see somebody doing wrong, and then he gave me

784
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: a good example. You know. He's like, yo, yeah, I

785
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: love both of you, my brothers and sisters. You know,

786
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: you see your brothers and sisters fight, you gotta stay

787
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, But if your brother calls and

788
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: blows your sister's head off with a fucking nine millimeter,

789
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: you're just gonna stand there, you know what I mean.

790
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: So I loove that you could like have that conversation,

791
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: like honestly, and it sounds like we absolutely hell spoke

792
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: about it and he he. I feel like he did

793
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: defend me. I feel like he didn't defend me enough,

794
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like, but this is the thing too,

795
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Like that's who earth is. We're all used to that,

796
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: so it's not really anything different. It's different maybe for

797
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the world to see, but like everyone's kind of used

798
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: to him being like that. It's one thing when it's

799
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: like clothes and the studio talking shit and blah blah blah.

800
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: That's another thing when it's like when you have a

801
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: platform and you are publicly going out of your way

802
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: to disrespect me, to lie on me, to try and

803
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: paint a picture of me that is so false. That's

804
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: why I keep saying it's a mental thing, you know,

805
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: and it's not even to be funny, you know. It's

806
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: like I feel like he needs help because nobody in

807
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: their right mind is going to think that that's okay. Now.

808
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: I get that there's motivation, right, there's also alcohol and

809
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: lots of lots of women, But I don't know that.

810
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if it wouldn't even write. I don't

811
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: know if there's a little bit of different motivation, right.

812
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: I feel like Earth wanted he He thought that he

813
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: could single handedly make the whole entire world hate me

814
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: and want to watch his documentary. So he did a

815
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: lot of this. What I feel he did a lot

816
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: of this for ratings. I don't think he anticipated the

817
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: ship backfiring on him and turned everyone off, you know

818
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: so fast. What makes me sad because I feel like

819
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: we as a label, as a brand, as as the

820
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: staple in music. I feel like we as murdered, ain't

821
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: deserved such a better story. You know, why didn't you

822
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: talk about how we made foolish? Why didn't you talk

823
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: about when you know we went down and to Puff's

824
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: office and got the Biggie verse. Why didn't you, you

825
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, why didn't you talk about how

826
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: I had to write the bridge for any funny on

827
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: on skytail and send it, you know what I mean?

828
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Like why not talk about all the positive things that

829
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: we created and you know, the billboard charts and the awards,

830
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: Like why not talk about even the blood, sweat and

831
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: tears that went into naming the album and how excited

832
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: everyone was. And you know, you chose to go down

833
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: a path of trying to paint this horrible picture of

834
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: Ashanti for what What are you really gaining out of that?

835
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: You think that people are gonna watch a documentary because

836
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to shoot on me when you're watching the documentary.

837
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: There's a couple of things that I'm curious if you

838
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: have anything to say about. Just number one, especially in

839
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: the comments, it was like him being married at the time,

840
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: You have any regret about that? You know? The crazy

841
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: thing is um When we had a conversation, you know,

842
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: Erv was like, I haven't I've been separated for years.

843
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: I lived by myself in an apartment. EARV had like

844
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: a lot of females, like a lot a lot of them, Yeah,

845
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yeah. He used to give me

846
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: his phones. I guess I'm even gonna get that to that,

847
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: but he had a lot of females, so to me,

848
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was married for a long time,

849
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: you know. And then when situations, you know, grew into

850
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: situations or whatever, he would always just be like, Yo,

851
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: I've been single for a long time. You know what

852
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's on paper, but we both were legally separated,

853
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then I also felt

854
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of pressure, like okay, so

855
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: if I say, does that mean we're not we're not

856
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: going to record, you know what I mean. So it

857
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: became a lot a lot of pressure, and I remember

858
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: specifically being like, yo, I don't want to. This is

859
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: too much for me, Like, yo, you're married. I don't

860
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to go down that path.

861
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: And he would just be like, nah, it's you good,

862
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: We're good. I don't not over here with her. I

863
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: live over here. You know what I'm saying. I go

864
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: to see my kids. I live here. That's over. That's

865
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm separated, that's done, you know. So it was it

866
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: was just a lot and then going back to that

867
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: gullible Susie that you know, naive Nancy, I don't want

868
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: to hurt no one's feelings. I don't want to hurt

869
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't That's just

870
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: my personality. Is that part of the reason why it

871
00:54:53,239 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: was like kept so quiet? Or were you just private? Um? Again,

872
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he painted it a little bit more

873
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: picture under see what I'm saying, Like, but you've always

874
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: been very private. Even your relationship with Nellie was like

875
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: we had to like you, We had to find out

876
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: almost when it was over, how real it was like,

877
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, yeah, absolutely, I've always

878
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: been a very private person and you know, keeping stuff

879
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: low into myself. I'm not one of those that has

880
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: to again go and beat my chest, you know what

881
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, That's just not me. The other thing in

882
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: the doc too, was that some of the other women,

883
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: like Vita's Charlie, it was like a portrayal of you

884
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: that you were like the coeen Bee of you know,

885
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: murder inc And and maybe their careers suffered because of

886
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: the personal relationship and how much attention and energy he

887
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: gave you. How did that, what did you take? What

888
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: did you make of that? Um? I saw, you know,

889
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: Vita had made some comments and felt like she had

890
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: um shown love and felt like she wasn't getting love back,

891
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: and that was just very weird to me because it

892
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: was never on that time and we barely I don't

893
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: think me and Vita had said more than like five

894
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: sentences to each other for twenty years, you know what

895
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And um, but it was never anything negative, never,

896
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, I feel

897
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: bad that she felt that way, you know what I'm saying. Um,

898
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm you know me, Angie, I'm a very

899
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: approachable you know. They they used to call me to

900
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: gummy beer, you know what I mean. So I'm I'm.

901
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where that came from, but it was

902
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: always all love on my end. And I think I

903
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: think at the verses, I think she was talking to

904
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: my mom and I think she asked mom about managing

905
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: her if I'm not mistaken. So I don't know. So

906
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: you were surprised she was not the only one in versus.

907
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: Your old friend Nellie was at Versus. We talked about

908
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: this to my radio show. How you said, he what

909
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: did you say? Remember that's been a cute moment. Was

910
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: a cute moment not cute for you cute for usque

911
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: for us, something outside not cute for you, very unexpected.

912
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: You have a lot of history with DELI take I

913
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: know you don't talk too much about that relationship, but

914
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: now knowing not by your choice, but now that we

915
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of your business, your relationship with herb

916
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm just stop saying situation. So it's a situation where

917
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: we know so much that we didn't really know before.

918
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm curious for you, like as a woman and everything

919
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: you experienced and that how you then how that translate

920
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: and changed for you now you're in you were in

921
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: a new relationship for a long time. Did that some

922
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: of that carry did you do you carry some of

923
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: that trauma, that baggage that into the next one? Or

924
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: was there growth a little bit? A little bit you know,

925
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: I do know that being a female from New York again,

926
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: just having a very savage like mouth. You know, there's

927
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: some people you can talk to like that. There are

928
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: some people you can't. He wasn't. He made it very

929
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: clear early, very early, that's not gonna work over. It's

930
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: not gonna work over. It was that shocking for you

931
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: a little bit because you had come from yes and

932
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: just it was the norm, you know, you know how

933
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: we speak the norm over there was definitely not the norm.

934
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: Did you Was that good for you? Like? I think

935
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: it was. I think it was good, you know. You Um,

936
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: there's just a level of respect, you know what I mean.

937
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're kind of like getting disrespected so much,

938
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: it kind of like it doesn't feel like you're getting

939
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: disrespected anymore because like you're used to it. And then

940
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: when someone from the outside is looking in and they

941
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of show you like, yo, that's not how we

942
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: talk to each other, And then you're like mm hmm,

943
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: you're right, you know. Yeah, it's called adjusting and growing.

944
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: That's a tough adjustment though, sometimes adjustment. Yeah, And then

945
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: from that relationship to now are you in? I'm just

946
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: thinking about the trajectory of how you are in relationships

947
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: and what you've learned and what do you want now?

948
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: What I want now? I'm in an amazing space, you know.

949
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: My career, I just feel like it's like a a surge.

950
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm here talking about celebrating twenty years of my

951
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: first album, getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, touring,

952
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: shooting movies, you know what I mean, putting out new music,

953
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: putting on new visuals books, you know, and I'm just

954
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: in such a really dope space. I want to continue

955
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: to expand and grow my empire. You know. Obviously I

956
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: want to get married. I still wanna have kids, you know,

957
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: And I feel like, after I finish with this the

958
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: rest of this year, then I'm going to really sit

959
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: down and you know, take the personal stuff serious. You're

960
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna make some time for that in your life. Really,

961
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: I think I want to make some time. I keep

962
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: looking at this ring on your finger. You have two stars.

963
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Is this symbolic? It's very symbolic. So since my star

964
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: on the Hollywood Walk up thame talk your ship, Ashanti, Um,

965
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: this is like super super special. My mom got this

966
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: for me, and it's like it's so dope. It has

967
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: me like with a microphone. On this side. It has

968
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: the Hollywood sign, you know, from Beverly Hills on this

969
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: sign obviously, the star on the pink diamonds, and I

970
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: don't know, it's still surreal for me that I gotta star.

971
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: Isn't really though, because so many people were like she

972
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: should have been had with that. You know, I'm super

973
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: humble and I'm I'm very grateful and I saw people

974
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, and it it definitely. Um it

975
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: made me feel really really good. But just growing up,

976
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: you just never know, you know what I'm saying. And

977
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I think my mom manifested it, you know,

978
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: because the whole story behind it. Her first time in

979
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: l A. She went to a souvenir store and she

980
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: brought a star and she's like, you're gonna get a star.

981
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: I would walk a fame. I'm like, my stop, you know,

982
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't do that, you know. But she manifested it.

983
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: You know, she believed in me, and you know, it

984
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: makes a difference, you know what I'm saying, It really does.

985
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: So this is very special. I was gonna say, what

986
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: does it symbolize for you? In terms like gosh, it

987
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: symbolizes the sacrifices, the hard work, you know, the many

988
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: record deals that um I lost, you know, a lot

989
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: of the rejection and overcoming that you think about it,

990
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: like my name is like cemented into the ground like forever, forever, forever,

991
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, and that's huge. What are you most proud

992
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: of about you? Well, your career and your life in general. Um,

993
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm really really proud of the person that I am

994
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: and how I handle things, you know. Um, I think

995
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: I've weathered a very tumultiless storm. Um. I feel like

996
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: like we all have, we all have obstacles, and I

997
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: feel like certain people would not be able to move

998
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: how I move had they've been dealt the hand that

999
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: I've been dealt. And I really genuinely love that about myself.

1000
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: Not to sound you know, but I do. You could

1001
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: be proud of yourself. You could like it's it's times,

1002
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: it gets a lot, and now that I do make

1003
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: it look easy, you know. And I think that's part

1004
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: of just being professional. That's part of being like a hustle.

1005
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: That's part of being a go getter, you know. That's

1006
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: how you stay successful. You have to. Yeah, you know

1007
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you have other stuff coming right. Yes,

1008
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for my official new single call Falling

1009
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: for You, which should be available after y'all watch this. Um.

1010
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about the record. I wrote it with

1011
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: Blue and it's just it's it's an Ashanti record with

1012
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: spice on it, you know what I mean, sonically, but

1013
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: writing with merit, you know what I mean. And it's

1014
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: funny because all the teasers that I put on my Instagram,

1015
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: everybody's like, Yo, what's the name is? I can relate?

1016
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: This is what we want from you, you know. So

1017
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. And what is it about it?

1018
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: Tell me that is there? You want to I want

1019
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: to hold it, to hold it, you know, falling for you?

1020
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: It's basically just saying I'm not falling for this bs anymore.

1021
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy because it relates to like almost all of

1022
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: these situations, you know, no more falling for you? You know.

1023
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: I bet you think that I would never find another,

1024
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, like it's you know, it's real and came

1025
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: from a real place. So so is this the beginning

1026
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: of new music coming? Absolutely? I have so many records, Angie,

1027
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. I'm gonna show you. Let me show you

1028
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: my phone what its proof? I don't even I believe

1029
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: you know. I want you to see this. Let me

1030
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: see how many I'm gonna count them? Oh no, Wow?

1031
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: Did I see Burner Boy's name in there? Oh? Sorry?

1032
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: Do you see? These are scrolling so fast? Okay? But

1033
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: the point is they're all records. Wow, what are you

1034
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna do with all these records? What is the have

1035
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: to put them out? We have to the records are

1036
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: What is the plan? Is there a plan? Yes, the

1037
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: plan is we're gonna drop the single. We're gonna put

1038
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: out an EP or an album. Me and Blew are

1039
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: working on some stuff. Um, it's just so much music

1040
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: and it's time, you know, it's time. So what is

1041
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: this chapter called? What is this like? What do you

1042
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: see for yourself in this phase? Like? What do you

1043
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: think people are gonna a shanty twenty because I'm celebrating

1044
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: twenty years. Um. This phase is being strong, being vocal,

1045
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: being confident, um, having integrity, not being scared, and um,

1046
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: being okay with I'm at a point where, um, I

1047
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: can choose to do what I want to do. You know. Um,

1048
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very humble, and i feel like

1049
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: I work really really hard, you know, and I'm just

1050
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm about just like peace and positive energy, having fun

1051
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: and celebrate in life, you know, and being successful. Live

1052
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: your life. Boo, you already know it, and you have

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01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: a book told that people should know about. Yes, I

1054
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: have a book. Cute is this book? Can we just

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: show the book really quick? It's so cute? How cute

1056
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: is this book? My name is a story. My name

1057
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: is a story. Cute is she? I want to squeeze

1058
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: her face? You see my eyebrows though. Cute little baby?

1059
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: Or she didn't know she was gonna be in all

1060
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: this mess? Oh my god, Oh mama, just so cute,

1061
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: you know. But I feel like this is important. It's

1062
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: so funny the title of the book being called my

1063
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,959
Speaker 1: name is a story, and we're sitting up here talking

1064
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: about my story. My name is definitely a story, for sure.

1065
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: And I think that it's important for kids to feel

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01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: confident and who they are what they are, and when

1067
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: you have a unique name like Ashanti, don't be scared

1068
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: or fearful. You know, when the teacher mispronounced your name,

1069
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: correct them and be confident with that and be okay

1070
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: with that. You know, it's okay that your name is

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01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: not Susie or Emily or Sarah or Dan. You know

1072
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: it's okay, and be okay with that and embrace it

1073
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: and understand that your name is different for a reason

1074
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 1: and you can celebrate that, you know what I mean.

1075
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: And on the other hand, the kids that do have,

1076
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, common names, except that, hey, it's okay to

1077
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: have a friend with a different name. Don't laugh at it,

1078
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I felt like I

1079
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: wanted to do something unique and something meaningful, especially coming

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01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: out of COVID and seeing the kids going through craziness

1081
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: with school, Like, I felt like it was great important,

1082
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: What a great little message and gift to give to

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01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: some little kid who's struggling with you see, if they

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01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: see and everybody in the class, you will be all

1085
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: surprised at so many people. When I went to Essence

1086
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: and did the book signing, everyone had a story, my

1087
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: name is this, my name is? You know? And then

1088
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: like they never pronounced my name right, you know, I'm

1089
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: getting this for my daughter. My name, her name is?

1090
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: You know? So it was it was genuinely amazing, right.

1091
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: So we got books, we got we got songs coming,

1092
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: we got music, movies coming. We're up here in Canada

1093
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: doing a movie, shooting a movie. You can't tell me

1094
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: too much about the movie, but I know some insights, yes,

1095
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: and I know it's very exciting for you. Yes, and

1096
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: your future is bright, My dear, thank you. Anything you

1097
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: want people to know or I don't know. Oh, I

1098
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: want women to be able to feel comfortable and strong

1099
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: walk in that purpose and I don't want women to

1100
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: have to cater, bow down or feel scared in situations

1101
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: when a man has the power. You know what I mean.

1102
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: It's a scary scary times, a scary feeling. It's a

1103
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: scary situation UM to be in. So I feel like

1104
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 1: it's important to defend yourself. I feel like it's important

1105
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: to create clarity, you know. And it's it's not important

1106
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: to bash somebody. That's not my thing, you know what

1107
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I don't have no um, I have

1108
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: nothing to gain trying to hurt someone or trying to

1109
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: be vile or disrespectful or degrading, you know what I mean. Um,

1110
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Speaker 1: when I do have kids, I'm going to care about

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: what my kids see and what they you know, what

1112
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: they take from how I um, what's the word I'm

1113
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: looking like? Yeah? How I carry myself? You know what

1114
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know if other people think about that.

1115
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: And that's where it goes into you know, you can't

1116
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: be selfish, you know what I mean? You just at

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: something And I'm gonna end with that about your purpose?

1118
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: Do you know what your purposes? Have you thought about that?

1119
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I thank my purpose is to

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Speaker 1: show being an example of being gracious and um, being genuine.

1121
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: It's very important to show so for me, I guess

1122
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: my purpose is to continue to spread the message to

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Speaker 1: keep going and keep grinding and let the success speak

1124
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: for itself. Well, you're doing exactly that, so you should

1125
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: feel good about a thing. Thank you, so good to

1126
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: see you, thank you so to day. I can't wait

1127
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: to see the movie into the premium and the screaming

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Speaker 1: I'm for sure to thank you mama.