WEBVTT - Part Four: America's First Fascist Governor 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:09.920 Also media. What's confused my me because I just watched 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.320 a video of the new Tesla event where they are 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:18.280 releasing what appears to be an Art Deco brick that 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.640 is designed as. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.720 An insult to Art Deco. It looks I would agree. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.239 It is an insult to art Deco, but nonetheless, that 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.319 is what it looks like. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.280 No, it looks like a toaster. It does look like 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:33.080 a rolling toaster. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.600 Yeah, it's it's what I don't understand is how it's 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.760 like there's no clearance on it, like zero, it's just 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.040 flat to the ground. I guess there he's trying to 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.240 replace city buses. But I feel like, yeah, it's a 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.560 bus for rich people. It's a bus for rich people. Yeah, yeah, 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.800 it's a bus that will exist in San Francisco and 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:55.600 nowhere else. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.800 Maybe so then you don't have to ride with the poors, 0:00:58.840 --> 0:00:59.319 Like that's all. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.640 Yeah. I think I'm guessing this is just something they're 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:09.160 trying to get off the ground with their self driving shit. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.680 It is funny that they've gone from like everyone's Tesla 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:17.000 will be able to work independently as a profit making 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.720 cab when they're not driving it too. We have this 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.640 brick that you can sit in with nineteen other people. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.720 I don't know, I don't know why you want this 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.200 as opposed to any other kind of bus. But they 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.319 also had all of the Tesla robots out and he 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.720 apparently these twenty thousand dollars robots that can hand you 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.399 bags of goodies at a party are going to solve poverty. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.120 So I'm excited to see how that works out. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.040 Revolutionary. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.280 Yeah, this is the biggest, the biggest step forward for 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:52.920 mankind since we invented I don't know, hitting kids. Garrison 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.280 speaking of children. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.280 Speak of hitting kids. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.520 Actually, yeah, YouTube, I'm glad we're getting to that. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.680 Yeah, me too, me too. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.480 Also, this is behind the Bastards. You know that you 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:07.760 listen to this show. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.880 This is part four. You're not jumping in on part four, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:10.280 I don't know. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.720 Yeah, yeah, start back with part one if you haven't 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.760 seen the other parts, or do a reverse listen. If 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.280 you have come unstuck in time and can only process 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.240 human lives going backwards to forwards like a Benjamin Button 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.040 kind of deal, you know, then maybe it makes sense. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.600 So last episode, the people of Georgia rejected Eugene Talmage 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.880 as the representative in the US Senate, but as World 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.000 War Two loomed over the country, they welcomed him back 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.200 to the governor's office, as Gene signified the comfort of 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.880 the past. So we're now in the early nineteen forties 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.680 and the first cracks in the Jim Crow South are 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.519 starting to appear. Since Jane lost his battle against the 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.040 New Deal, all that was left of the Old South 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.679 for Gene to defend was its white supremacy. As Southerners 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.480 grew to accept and enjoy new deoliberalism, the incongruity of 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.320 the racial divisions began to manifest itself. And now, just 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.839 like how the manufactured uproar over like a critical race 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.120 theory a few years ago, kind of put racism back 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.600 into our political conversation, the education system would be the 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:26.160 target for Jean's new distinct focus on racism and white supremacy. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.120 Is because this is going to be one of these 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.000 other like overlaps between what Gene pioneered and how this 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.600 kind of carries over to like this modern like dictatorial 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:41.280 conservative strategy. I'm going to quote from William Anderson, Jane's biographer, quote, 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.240 Georgia remained a secreationist society in nineteen forty one, and 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.600 Gene Talmadge remained its greatest advocate. Prior to nineteen forty one, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.800 he had not made racism a major part of his 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.520 politics because he had no reason to. Practically every white 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.800 Georgian was racist to some degree. Every candidate could be 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.760 expected to treat the black of the same, which was poorly, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.240 and any issue of race had been previously overwritten by 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.640 the New Deal or personality. Racism had been a part 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.360 of his career, but it was far from crucial until 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.360 the nineteen forties. So during this time, schools in Georgia 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.680 were undergoing badly needed reforms, and the University of Georgia 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.800 hired an admin named Walter D. Cocking to improve the 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:27.680 College of Education. So there you go, Yes, get it 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.000 out now, doctor Khaki. I'm going to say it a lot. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.719 To say it a lot, Walter, Doctor Walter d Kky, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.960 We're gonna say it a lot. You can get it 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.840 out now, did he go? 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.400 The D feels like you put that in there, gear. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.600 The d's in there. The D is in but you 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.000 is always there. It's all about that D. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.799 To me, Well, that's. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.960 Audience. Can I what can I say? I don't know, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:03.039 I know, but I feel like you one could have 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:04.960 omitted the D. The D. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.080 No, No, that would have I would have fired them 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.760 on the spot. The D is in the historical record. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.920 I have the duty to include the D. Yeah, Sophie, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.000 this is this is journalistic ethics, one oh one. I 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.080 always include the D. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:18.200 I guess the D. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.800 The D is in the D? Is it? 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.160 I guess? Huh uh huh. That's why I'm coming out 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.919 with a blockbuster piece of journalism in the next couple 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.120 of weeks. That's just every photo I found of Hunter 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.799 Biden's cock uh, no text at all, just many stitch 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.400 pass over and over again. The New York Times is 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.120 putting it up front. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.680 Paid very excited, Robert no Garrison, please. 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:47.719 Please. The Georgia Boardive Regions commissioned multiple studies from doctor 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.839 Cocking and his faculty on how to fix the education system, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.120 the results of which recommended more funding for black schools 0:05:55.360 --> 0:06:00.120 and partial integration of certain facilities. Graduate students were in 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.120 forming Talmage that there were rumors of integration, and a 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.039 disgruntled former high school teacher at a school ran by 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.520 the university blamed doctor Cocking for her firing, so she 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.320 sent Talmich reports on the black studies programs. A Talmwich 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.080 supporter in Athens its pread of rumor about doctor Cocking 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.159 having an affair with a black cook that grew to 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:23.760 such prominence that the university president investigated and disproved the claim. Now, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.400 things all came to a head in a May nineteen 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.520 forty two Board of Regents meeting where Talmadge singled out 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.000 another progressive educator for removal the president of the Georgia 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.280 Teachers College, doctor Marvin Pittman Gene accused him of being 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.920 engaged in local partisan politics. Jane then attacked doctor Cocking, 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.680 calling him to be fired as dean, saying that doctor 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.880 Cocking quote made a statement that he wanted to see 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.400 the time when a school for negroes would be established 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.159 at Athens so that negroes and white boys could associate 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:58.920 together unquote okay. Jane then promised to remove any person 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:03.080 in the university system advocating communism or racial equality. Oh, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.560 this motion passed, so that we see very classic tactics here. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.920 Yeah. That is. That is an important thing to understand 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:15.360 American politics is that up to the present day, racial 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.080 equality and communism are synonyms for about a third of 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:19.680 the country. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.320 Well, I mean we even we even see this with 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.520 like the whole critical race theory thing. Yeah, they're trying 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.960 to what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, like they're trying to 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.920 inject cultural Marxism and they're like blah blah blah blah blah. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.320 All this that we talked about for years. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.280 It's been going on for longer than either of us 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:39.400 has been alive. But yeah, that's that's important to know now. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.840 The president of the University of Georgia, Hermann Caldwell, was 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:47.760 furious about his staff being fired and submitted his own 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:53.720 resignation in protest of Cocking's termination. In response, on June sixteenth, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.480 the board held a hearing in Jean's office reassessing the 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.440 firing of doctor Cocking. The office was packed with faculty 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.920 in support of Cocking. The only ones there against him 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.360 were Talmadge and this former high school teacher that Jane 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.600 brought to complain that doctor Cocking was trying to integrate Georgia. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.640 Cocking was reinstated in a seven to eight vote. Jeene 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.960 whined about this affair in The Statesman, writing quote, I'm 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.320 not going to put up with social equality. We don't 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.400 need no n words and white people taught together unquote. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.119 A hearing for doctor Pittman was scheduled for July fourteenth, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.520 but this time in public at the General Assembly instead 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.560 of the privacy of the Governor's office. Talmadge instructed doctor 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.360 Cocking to attend this hearing as well, promising to present 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.880 new evidence. This evidence focused on the Rosenwald Fund, which 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.800 financed one of Cocking's studies. Yeah, you can see where 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:46.480 this is not right. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.720 I think I know where we're headed here. The word 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.440 Rosenwald is really all the all the id. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.960 So this was a philag the prefoundation from the north 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.600 that sought to improve the conditions of southern schools. Gene 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.959 referred to this fund as quote jew money for n words. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.240 Hey, you know what, at least he picked the J 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.920 word and not the K word, right, he could have 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.559 doubled down on the slurs and he is, Yeah, but 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.839 two of that it makes him, that makes him woke 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.520 by these that decade's standards. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:22.240 Who woke? Talmach No, I mean you can see Gene's 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.360 kind of previous, like decades decades long attacks on like 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.760 bankers is kind of as is coded in anti Semitism, certainly, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.360 and like his main political inspiration, Tom Watson was rapidly 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.439 anti Semitic, and we're we start to see more of 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.600 that anti semitism come out during Gene's kind of last 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.240 brush with politics, because Gene just got increased increasingly like 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.680 openly racist, because he had like nothing else to like 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.079 base his politics on as liberalism progressed in this South. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.720 So Talmadge also ordered the Statesboro College Library to search 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:58.880 for books containing quote communism or anything except Americanism unquote 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.640 to use as evidence against the men in the hearings. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.480 Again very similar to all of the attacks on school 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.120 and education that we've seen the past few years here 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.559 in the United States. Before the hearing, Gene pressured two 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.880 oppositional members of the Board of Regents to resign. One 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.320 was a lifelong friend and classmate, the other was an 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.000 editor at the Constitution, the newspaper now. Friends and political 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.800 advisors to Jene strongly discouraged him from doing this, as 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.760 he didn't need to make more enemies at the Constitution. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.120 But more importantly, this whole affair, in Gene's increased meddling 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.960 in Georgie's education system was actually going to threaten the 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:39.720 accreditation of George's universities. Now I'm going to quote from 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:44.520 William Anderson as he discusses the hearing. Quote. Prior to 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.560 the hearing, Gene began mounting a public campaign that painted 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.120 the two men as communists, financed by Jews and bent 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.839 on destroying George's culture. The public hearing was a public spectacle. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.840 The hall was packed mostly with Tallemich people, and down 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.280 front center stage, white suited, smoking a huge cigar and 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:07.360 wearing a ten gallon hat, sat Jean. It was all show. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:12.200 Flash bulbs sparked the air, people cheered, police swarmed, and 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.960 the show opened by reading excerpts from Brown America, The 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.319 book written by Rosenwald chief Edwin Embry, had been found 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:24.400 in the Statesboro College Library. Board regent member James S. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.200 Peters said, throughout this book, the thought runs erase the 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.559 feeling of superiority of the white man. They want them, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.160 they want them to put the white men down and 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.280 draw the races together. They want them to use the 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.280 same schools, right, the same trains. It means they want intermarriage. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.760 That's what it means. Yeah, there we go, there we go. Yeah, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.560 so some good old fing. I mean this does show 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.680 you slightly where some of the progress has been because 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.960 you're still angry about the same things today, but you 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.480 can't say that your issue is intermarriage. We're still it's 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.840 still bad to complain about race mixing, although they're working 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:00.640 on that one. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.480 So they sure are working to bring that back. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.680 Yeah, we'll see if we'll see how far they get. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.720 The fact that like this like great replacement stuff was 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.880 like a cringe Lauren Southern posting in twenty seventeen yea, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.439 and is now like a mainstream Republican talking point. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.680 By not optimistic. Yeah, very worrying. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:23.040 Yeah, So as as h as James Peters talked about 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:28.280 how they want intermarriage, Jean shouted in response, they won't 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.840 do it, and the galley and the galley's rocked with 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.680 laughter and applause. Now you can you can see these 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.200 tactics are the exact same that people are using now, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.319 like reading books found in school libraries to like paint 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.120 the to paint these people as like radical and like 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.720 trying to destroy America or trying to destroy Georgia. This 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.720 is the same stuff that's happening now. To continue from 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.640 Anderson quote, the purpose of reading the book was to 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.320 find doctor Cocking and Pittman guilty by association with the 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.120 Rosenwald Fund. Shocking A. Rose gave a brief denial of 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.880 the charges and noted his shock at this circus hearing, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.480 saying that such tactics should be employed in any count 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.720 draw on Earth is hard to believe that they are 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.320 employed in Georgia. Has all the earmarks of a terrific nightmare. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.760 The galley shouted Yankee teacher quote. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.960 Yeah, that's I mean, that's what I would shouted any 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.720 of my teachers who were born north of the Mason Dixon, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:26.880 So I get it. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.600 The new Talmaged approved Board of Regents voted ten to 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.360 five to fire doctor Cocking once again. President Pittman was 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.040 next on the chopping block. They read from another book 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:43.599 on race titled Calling America, and a disgruntled professor testified 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.320 that five black men from the Tuskegee Institute toured Statesboro 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.480 College and eight in the cafeteria while no white people 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:55.720 were on campus. This was Jane's single witness against the educator. Meanwhile, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.320 Pittman had thirty six witnesses, but the board voted once 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:04.120 again ten to five to terminate doctor Pittman. This whole 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.800 incident caused a degree of uproar, and Gene responded by writing, quote, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.440 doctor Cocking favored the teaching of white and Negro children 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.880 in the same classrooms. My god, I am opposed to 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.320 social equality, and as long as I am the governor 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.200 of Georgia, no such teaching will be permitted in our 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.400 school system. Doctor Cocking, as you know, was reared into Iowa, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.560 where white and colored are taught in this same classroom. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.440 His conducts, his conduct since being in Georgia is proof 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.800 of the fact that he retains the views and ideas 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.880 gained to him in the state of Iowa. I am 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.360 not in favor of such foreign ideas being taught in 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.360 our university system. Unquote. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.120 You know, there's no nice way to say this, so 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.720 I'm just going to say it straight out, because I 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.960 just read an article this morning about like all the 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.200 death threats meteorologists to getting because Republicans have decided that, 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.720 like you need just threaten to kill people if they 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.800 say that there's going to be a hurricane. That's you know, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.320 and that's inconvenient to your belief system because hurricanes are 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.720 clearly getting worse, and you've denied climate change for years, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.920 Like all of this shit you know, the current push 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.720 against any kind of like integration, all of the fucking 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:17.240 white genocide panics. Like back in the day, in Talmadge's day, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.400 when you had all of these fucking freaks complaining about 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.560 the idea of black and white kids going to school together. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.320 The only thing that overcame their disinformation and paranoia and 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.240 bigotry was sending men with machine guns in and saying, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.640 we will fucking kill you if you don't integrate these schools. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:39.280 That's what the government had to do. Anyway, food for thought. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.040 So after this second hearing, the Southern Accrediting Commission on 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.600 Institutions of Higher Education announced that it was investigating the 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:53.320 governor's interference in the state's education system. Gene responded to 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.840 panicked parents concerned that the universities might lose their accreditation 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:01.520 by saying, we credit our own schools down here, which 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.400 is also similar to some of Trump's Agenda forty seven 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.920 plans to improve the university system. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:13.080 He's just offering them what they've wanted forever. Yeah. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.880 Now, this apparently didn't help calm things down as was, 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.760 as Gene was forced to give a radio address defending 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.920 his racist actions, which he signed off by saying the 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.400 good Negroes don't want any co mixing of the races. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:33.320 Not great again. Like when Eugene Talmadge is forced to 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:37.240 defend his own racism on radio in nineteen forty two, 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.280 Sure that shows how bad he is, because at this 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.440 point everyone is racist, Like people in the university in 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.160 the university system aren't actually calling for like mass integration 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.480 like that, that's not what they're doing. Gene is just 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.320 so like fucked up on racist that he thinks any 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.920 any small step that might eventually lead to lead to 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.640 that outcome has to be like fundamentally opposed. But like 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.360 doctor Cocking isn't actually calling for all the schools to 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.320 be integrated, like that's like he's like, that's that's simply 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:07.480 not what's happening right now. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.600 Yeah. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.200 Now, the Attorney General, a guy named Ellis Arnold, who 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:16.080 was previously like a longtime Chalage supporter, that he was 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.000 worried that Jane's forced resignation of the Board of Regents 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:23.760 was actually just illegal. Gina knew that the AG was concerned, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.200 so when Arnold was out of town for a few days, 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.600 Gene instructed the AGI's office to write an opinion affirming 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.760 the governor's actions, and then when the AGI returned, he 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.080 had to countermand this opinion and announced that he would 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.680 be running for governor against Gene to secure academic freedom. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:46.000 Henry Sperlin, one of Jean's longest friends, did claim that 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.320 Gene actually tried to have the ag arrested while he 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.800 was vacationing in Florida, just to bring him back to 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.119 Atlanta during the legislative session to affirm his actions. Although 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.440 I think I think Arnold denies this. There's there's some 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.480 some conflicting reports over whether Gene tried to have the 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.320 h arrested. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:03.359 Yeah. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:04.120 Great now. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.639 In September, the Southern Accrediting Commission suspended ten of Georgia's 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:14.399 white schools for quote unprecedented and unjustifiable political interference quote. 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.160 The next month, the Southern University Conference dropped the University 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.199 of Georgia from its membership. Jane told the Board of 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.080 Regents that they could undo some of his meddling to 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.959 protect the system. However, he was canceling meetings to ratify 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.359 an agreement between the regions and the accreditation Committee. Jane 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.360 also refused to sign a letter stating that he did 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.720 not have complete control over the entire university system, saying quote, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.840 I think it's a mistake for the governor to write 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.320 any letter which might limit his authority as the governor. Quote. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.439 One of Jean's allies on the board begged him to reconsider, 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.320 warning that if the accreditation issue did not get resolved soon, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.840 it could turn thousands of families and students against Jane. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.680 His wife and his advisors also wanted him to back down, 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.720 but fan mail from racist to support told him otherwise. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:06.200 Not fan mail. Gene received so much fan mail from 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:10.199 like racist like I've sure rule supporters, and he listened 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:11.960 to that way more than he listened to any of 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.960 his like actual political advisors, because like this was this 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.399 is this is what, this is what the people were 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.359 actually wanting. He really, he really enjoyed reading through his 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.560 fan mail. This is like a really this was really 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.439 important to the way Gene operated as. 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.080 An em that's an a's evidence that you're unhinged because 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.960 as someone who gets a lot of fan mail, I 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.800 appreciate all of the fans, but reading through fan mail 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:38.000 is at best a mixed experience, right, because for every 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.560 person who is like really nice and giving you like 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.960 honest you know, it's like, oh, this is great, I'm 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.400 glad I've had a positive impact on this person. There's 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.679 someone who will like message you with something that is 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:52.240 so that is evidence that like that they're they're having 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.120 a problem, right, Like that happens a lot when you're 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.000 a contactable person with any level of fame, and it's 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:03.760 deeply upsetting. It's it's not I'm not complaining, it's just like, oh, 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.879 you are messaging me because you think that I have 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.320 some sort of special inform like knowledge that can help 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.320 you when you're like very serious problem. And that is 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.120 like every fifth letter you get you when you're famous, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.680 and it's it's not fun. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.760 It doesn't. I mean, I don't think that matters to Gene, 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.679 because gen doesn't actually care about helping people. 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.720 When he just likes that they're reaching out. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:31.240 Yeah, ways to maximize his racism. That's that's his primary motivation. Yeah, 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.640 and a lot of this fan mail affirms his racism, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:39.080 so he greatly enjoys it. To quote Anderson quote, he 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.880 did not believe that the voters wanted integration. He did 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.679 not believe that they gave a damn about the accreditation association. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.120 He believed that their opposition to racial equality was so 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.639 strong that they would risk almost to any loss. Jeane 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.320 felt the implications and the threat were of a far 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.600 greater magnitude than even the New Deal, though he saw 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.920 them both as a common conspiracy by outside to take 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.679 over the lives of Georgians unquote. So, after attempts at 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.840 an agreement between the regions and the Accreditlation Committee failed, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.320 finally in December, they've they voted to end the accreditation 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:19.440 of all of Georgie's state schools. The Saint Louis Dispatch wrote, quote, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.560 here in the heart of Dixie has developed a prize 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.520 of specimen of full blown American fascism. The dictatorship is 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.840 just as effective and just as vicious as the Huey 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:30.520 Long dictatorship. Unquote. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.639 Okay, very very brave. 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.560 You don't have the New York Times saying saying such 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.919 stuff now, full full blown American fascism. 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.280 Yeah, well, what other kind of American fashions being going 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.000 to have? Garrison? You don't, you know, you don't want 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.200 half blown American fascism. 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.879 So this, this whole instant is called the Cocking Affair. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.280 I just think that's a really good name. Wow, you 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.160 just you just said half blown and that reminded me, anyway, 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:04.200 we should take it break, Yeah, speaking should Yeah. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:14.760 Anyway, here you go, awful, Ah, we're back. Ah, good stuff. 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.119 And what a cocking affair it was. 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.080 What a cocking affair it was. 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:24.200 So the next election would be framed as choosing education 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.480 or racism, though this wasn't like really truly the case 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:32.440 because again both candidates Talmadge and Arnell were were segregationists. 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.160 One just preferred to not shut down the entire school 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.199 system to exert personal power over two academics whom he 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.160 personally disliked. Right like that That is the main difference 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:49.480