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Speaker 1: She's a fresh show.

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Speaker 2: It's Kiki's court, judge, Kiky, all rise for the honorable judge. Kiki,

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Speaker 2: your honor, yes, take it away?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's step into the courtroom.

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Speaker 3: The gavel has been hit, it says, hey, Kike, Am

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Speaker 3: I wrong for making my husband miss his interview?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: My thirty five year old husband has been out of

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Speaker 3: work for six months. I've been carrying the bills on

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Speaker 3: my salary and working overtime.

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Speaker 1: To keep us afloat.

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Speaker 3: Last week, he finally got an interview for a job

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Speaker 3: he's been chasing for years, which has truly been a

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Speaker 3: dream opportunity for him. I was excited and relieved, and

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Speaker 3: the interview was scheduled at nine am. He said he'd

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Speaker 3: wake up by seven point thirty to prepare. However, the

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Speaker 3: night before he stayed up until two am playing video games.

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Speaker 3: I was reminding him twice that he needed to get up,

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Speaker 3: and he waved me off and got snappy. So the

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Speaker 3: next morning I got up at six forty five to

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Speaker 3: go to work.

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Speaker 1: He was still dead asleep.

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Speaker 3: His alarm started blaring at seven point thirty and I

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Speaker 3: watched him snooze it three times at this point to

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Speaker 3: avoid an argument, I decided I'm not waking him up,

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Speaker 3: and I left for work. He finally woke up at

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Speaker 3: nine point fifteen, missed the interview, completely freaked out and

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Speaker 3: called me at work asking me why didn't I wake him?

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Speaker 3: And I told him, you're not a child. He was

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Speaker 3: livid and said that I was passive, aggressive, unsupportive, and

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Speaker 3: that I sabotaged him. Now he's not talking to me,

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Speaker 3: and even his mother called me to say I should

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Speaker 3: have had his back. I think he needed this wake

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Speaker 3: up call. But now I'm wondering if I crossed the line.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Judge Kiki, girl, You're not wrong, girl,

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Speaker 3: you are not wrong. If his mother want to get involved,

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Speaker 3: she should have called. I don't know, mother's always called.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I backed off, right, Yes, but no, you're not wrong.

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Speaker 3: This is a grown man who it's been unemployed for

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Speaker 3: six months. You don't have anything else to do but

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Speaker 3: prepare for this interview, Okay, you have no other obligations

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A lazy person with no job is that's a

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Speaker 2: bad combination.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and things happen.

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Speaker 3: People lose their jobs every day, so I don't want

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Speaker 3: to even say it's just a lazy person, but this story.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, no, yeah, I'm talking about this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, six months no job, and then when you

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Speaker 2: have the job interview, you don't take it seriously right,

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Speaker 2: That to me is not responsible.

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Speaker 3: And then your wife is warning you, like women tend

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Speaker 3: to do, you know, give you a little reminder and

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Speaker 3: you get snappedy.

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Speaker 2: She did, and she did look out for him. She

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Speaker 2: was like, hey, let's get some rest before this interview. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then you're like nah, and you keep playing your

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Speaker 3: And then now, now, sis, you were a little petty

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Speaker 3: because you were there as the alarm was going off.

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Speaker 1: That was a little petty.

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Speaker 3: You know, she watched them, she watched some snoozy alarm.

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Speaker 3: But she was like, I'm not arguing with you, and

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Speaker 1: It's not up to her.

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Speaker 2: The her argument that I would make, though, is abou

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Speaker 2: about this sleeping through the alarm and her being aware

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Speaker 2: of that is this affects her negatively too, So you know,

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Speaker 2: she may have taught him a lesson, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: sound like he's someone who's going to interpret that lesson

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Speaker 2: very well. And ultimately, now this is another job he

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Speaker 2: won't get. So how does that affect her negatively? How

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Speaker 2: did that behavior really Did it really penalize him or

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Speaker 2: did it really penalize her?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think at this point she I would be

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Speaker 3: considering some other things because if this is maybe this

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Speaker 3: through alarms. You might sleep through alarms all the time,

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Speaker 3: and maybe that's why you don't have.

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Speaker 2: A job, are you guys with the jury eight five, five, five, nine,

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Speaker 1: She could have woken him up. I wouldn't have either.

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Speaker 2: But then I guess if I don't wake him up

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't have a job and I want to

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Speaker 2: stay with him, then that's on me at some point,

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Speaker 2: like I've chosen this.

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Speaker 1: Life, did you though?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, because again no job for six months. I

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Speaker 2: know that it's hard to get a job. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: very difficult to get a job right now. But the

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Speaker 2: behavior like this is not going to your point, might

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Speaker 2: be the reason why he doesn't have a job exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so then the question is she gonna motivate him,

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Speaker 2: She's gonna wake him up, Is she gonna you know,

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Speaker 2: push him out the door, try and help him? And

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Speaker 2: and she doesn't have to do that, but if she

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Speaker 2: doesn't do that, then he's probably never going to get one.

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Speaker 2: And then if she stays with him, then she's choosing

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Speaker 1: So you say leave him all together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you just said that too, So no, you're

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Speaker 2: talking about like how I don't even say I'm the

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Speaker 2: only one that said that.

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong, you said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I think, honestly, at some point you gotta ask you

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Speaker 2: if this is a one time deal.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't want this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there could be other parameters here,

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Speaker 2: but I wonder, I wonder if this is just kind

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Speaker 2: of not his mentality. And if that's the case, then

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Speaker 2: maybe this is what you're up against for, you know,

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Speaker 2: as a mentality. And maybe this is you know, if

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Speaker 2: you choose to continue to be with this person and

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Speaker 2: they choose to make those kind of choices and you

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Speaker 2: can't really complain too much to other people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, But tough priorities though, like of maybe playing

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Speaker 4: video games at night. And maybe it's a little different,

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Speaker 4: but why don't you do some side hustle like go,

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Speaker 4: you know, drive for uber, or do door dash or

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Speaker 4: do something and bring an income. Again, Yes, getting a

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Speaker 4: job is very hard it's not like they're just handing

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Speaker 4: them out these days. But I think you can still

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Speaker 4: bring in some income. I think you can still have

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Speaker 4: want to do it, right, That's what I'm getting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this man. I don't want to know

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Speaker 1: this man. But it just seems like me doesn't want that.

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Speaker 2: Because if jobs are hard to get, and you want

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Speaker 2: take it seriously, yes, and that you don't stay up,

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Speaker 2: and that you make sure that you're awake, and that

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Speaker 2: you're at the job interview you and you do your

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Speaker 2: best to get the job. But again, I gotta wonder

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Speaker 2: does this guy even care?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: And then I remind you about it and I'm up

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Speaker 3: late telling you to go to bed, and you get

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Speaker 3: snappy with me, and I've been paying these meals for

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Speaker 3: six months alone, working over time, sir.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then then for him to turn around a gaslight her

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Speaker 2: and be like, somehow this is your fault.

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Speaker 3: Right, you sabotage He was waiting for that opportunity, avatar.

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Speaker 2: But I will say, and this is that this is

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Speaker 2: not her fault. But how long does this go And

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Speaker 2: we don't have all the context, but how long does

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Speaker 2: this go on before you need to start making choices

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Speaker 2: for you that may not involve this person anymore?

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Speaker 1: That's real? You know? Hey, Brian, Yes, how you doing? Brian?

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Speaker 1: Good morning Keiky's Court. You're the jury? What say you?

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Speaker 6: I wanted to know what it would it be the

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Speaker 6: same if the show was on all the footnet with

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Speaker 6: the woman that was at work Because me get a

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Speaker 6: bad rep sometimes and my wife has been out of

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Speaker 6: work for over two years, and I'll still pay the

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Speaker 6: bills and do what I got to do for my family,

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Speaker 6: and that's considered being a man. But when it's when

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Speaker 6: it's turned around, you know, why don't we put as

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Speaker 6: much heat on a woman not being able to find

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Speaker 6: a job out here for everybody?

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Speaker 1: I hear what he's.

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Speaker 2: Saying, but doesn't But doesn't that depend on sort of

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Speaker 2: the parameter within your relationship and what you guys have decided.

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Speaker 2: For example, if you two have decided together collectively that

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Speaker 2: you both need to work to maintain your lifestyle, and

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Speaker 2: there's no intensity for her to live up to her

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Speaker 2: end of the deal, I don't. I don't necessarily know

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Speaker 2: that this has to be gender based. Right If you

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Speaker 2: have agreed to take care of the family and she's

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Speaker 2: taking care of the house and the kids, well that's

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Speaker 2: a job, So you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I guess I guess.

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Speaker 2: What I said is is, yeah, he sounds like a deadbeat.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, your wife, is your life predicated on her

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Speaker 2: working too? Are you having to do twice as much

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Speaker 6: We we downgraded our lifestyle, so it's a lot of

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Speaker 6: things that we don't do in order to in order

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Speaker 6: for us to stay financially safe. But it's a lot

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Speaker 6: of things that I would like to, like my family

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Speaker 6: go back to doing if my wife would see it,

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Speaker 6: back to work. But for right now, we're maintaining everything.

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Speaker 6: We have a home through cars, and we're doing okay

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Speaker 6: because I get the whole men her work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear, I hear you, right, I hear the

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Speaker 2: men providing, the man providing thing and whatever. But I

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Speaker 2: guess what I would be thinking about is, regardless of

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Speaker 2: your gender, what what are our roles? What have we

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Speaker 2: decided we're going together? Who is going to pay what bills?

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Speaker 2: What have we decided? And are you living up to

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Speaker 2: what you agreed to do? And if the answer is no,

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Speaker 2: then that would be my problem. I wouldn't necessarily be well,

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Speaker 2: you're the man, so you should or whatever, only if

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Speaker 2: that's what we decided.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, Brian, have of the day, No problem, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Her some job links, Brian, Brian will how to get

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Speaker 3: back to work?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he does, he does. I just raising kids. Though

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Speaker 1: it sounds like she's holding it down at home.

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Speaker 4: He didn't seem to upset that when Fred was kind of,

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Speaker 4: you know, explaining that situation.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, again, it's what did they agree to? He

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Speaker 1: she's playing video games that night. That's what I really

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Speaker 1: wanted to know. I'm very triggered by this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right because and is she still expecting the

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Speaker 2: same life that they had before, but yet she doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a job. I mean, there's so many different aspects

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Speaker 2: of this, but I guess I would say, whatever relationship

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Speaker 2: expected to do this, and you're expected to do that,

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Speaker 2: and then you stop doing the part that we agreed

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Speaker 2: to together, that you're going to do. That would be

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Speaker 2: my problem.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. As a wife, I agree.

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Speaker 2: With them if I if we say, hey, I'm i'm

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Speaker 1: I need you to go make up make the income. Well,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't pressure her to make money because we agreed

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Speaker 3: And all parties need to be clear on the agreement. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes people just wake up and decide that

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Speaker 2: Like excuse me, excuse me, cue Like somebody said, she

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Speaker 2: It could have relieved the pressure off of her. Again,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what she did didn't exactly help her cause,

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Speaker 3: She shouldn't be obligated to wake a grown man up

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Speaker 3: who has been off for six months. What else are

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Speaker 3: you doing, my boy? Yeah, I would have been I

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Speaker 5: My touch, right, and the alarm thing triggers me to like,

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Speaker 5: who can't wake up to an alarm?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Like, even when I had roommates, it's going off,

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Speaker 1: it's going on, get up.

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Speaker 2: I would have woken him up and left for work.

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Speaker 2: This way, it's on him. She's also married to a

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Speaker 2: man child. Yeah, I mean, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, you're saying,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, just.

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Speaker 6: He didn't sleep through the alarm.

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Speaker 1: He snoozed it three times. That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: He wake up, So this is not he's just not motivated,

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Speaker 6: I'm like you, guys, I got a four m alarm

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Speaker 3: That's right, Go off, king, put your boots on the ground,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and that turns killing you on junk mail,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Hey you yes, no, thank you, thank you, yes, thank

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Speaker 1: Have a good day, Mike. That's right, thank you, hard

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Speaker 2: Right there, he said enough with us, Yeah, Mike, No,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Mike was triggered too. He was lost for

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Speaker 2: Hey Sarah, Sarah, how you doing.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing well. How are you guys?

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Speaker 1: Great? Thank you for calling him, for listening. So Keiky's Court.

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Speaker 2: Basically, this woman's with a guy who's been out of

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Speaker 2: work for six months, had a job interview, chose to

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Speaker 2: He didn't get up for the interview. She wants it

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Not okay. My husband had the same issue when

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Speaker 7: we first had her twins. He lost his job during COVID.

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Speaker 7: finally told him I'm not your mother, and if you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that sucks that you kind of had to

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Speaker 2: put the fire under his butt, but sometimes people need that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at least you gave him a chance to

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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, not acceptable, because I.

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Speaker 2: Know people go through stuff in life and they get

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Speaker 2: sure would beat it to lift him up, but for

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Speaker 2: how long?

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Speaker 3: Right? Right?

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Speaker 7: And shame on the mother in law for even stepping in. Honestly,

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Speaker 7: if that was one of my boys, I would have

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Speaker 7: been like, you're not moving back in here, fix it

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Speaker 7: with your wife to better. I raised you better than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, I'll go ahead and say it. Maybe we

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Speaker 2: know where the problem lies. Hello, you know, thank you, Sarah,

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Speaker 2: I have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, because we all I think.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people think they're doing kids a favor when they

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Speaker 2: They're going to be a product of what of what

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Speaker 2: So if every time he screws up he calls mom,

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Speaker 2: and mom calls and yells at the wife, well then

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Because it's like, no, no, that's my baby boy.

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Speaker 1: He's perfect.

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Speaker 2: Well he's not taking care of his obligations, so he's

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Speaker 2: not perfect. He's hurting her, Yes he is, but maybe

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Speaker 2: he feels enabled by it because Mom's going to solve

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Speaker 2: his problems every time. Hey Joanna, Yes, Hi, Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 8: Good morning? I love you guys. I want to say

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Speaker 8: that he totally is gaslighting her. Yeah, he is just

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Speaker 8: not for responsibility. I agree with you, guys. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: Like Ki said, Moby solving your problems. Come on, I'd

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Speaker 3: I love to say I didn't raise him like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes you did, Miss Shirley.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like sometimes like as women, we feel

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Speaker 5: and we shouldn't.

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Speaker 6: I'm not your memory