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Speaker 1: to that forthcoming. As we approached the final preseason weekend,

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Speaker 1: quarterback battles around the NFL starting to get settled, we

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time yesterday talking about the Jags,

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, Trevor Lawrence, Gardner, Minshew, and Urban made a

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Speaker 1: official He named Trevor Lawrence as his starter. The Broncos

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Speaker 1: are going to go with Teddy Bridgewater. The Bears are

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Speaker 1: going to start Andy Dalton. The Saints haven't officially made

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Speaker 1: a decision yet, but that should be forthcoming. And then

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Speaker 1: there's Mac Jones in New England. I guess you can

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Speaker 1: throw in Trey Lance. But listen to Jimmy Garoppo being

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Speaker 1: asked about basically who's starting at quarterback for the forty

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Speaker 1: We dude, the starting quarterback for a week one? Do

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Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea? Oh? Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. He was smiling about it. One

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Speaker 1: must mean sufering now that's whatever he decides. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Kyle's the head man. He'll make a call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the call has already been made. It's Jimmy Garoppolo. If

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Speaker 1: be Trey Lance. But he got a big smile on

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Speaker 1: his face and he realizes he is the future now.

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Speaker 1: But he's not going to be the future after this season.

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Speaker 1: They traded a lot to get Trey Lance. It's not

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Speaker 1: like you go, you know, on second thought, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep Jimmy ge Jimmy Garoppolo is a good quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Is he a great quarterback in

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Speaker 1: today's NFL? No, he's not. I know he wins games. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's quarterbacking the Patriots and he's quarterbacking the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 1: Those are really good teams. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: he just wins games. Jimmy Garoppolo learned at the feet

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, but it's more of a steady drip. That's

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Speaker 1: the water torture that he would provide. Trey Lance, that's

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Speaker 1: the guillotine where he can all of a sudden go

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it deep, or I can beat you

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Speaker 1: with my legs. We have wishful reporting. I talk about

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Speaker 1: this a lot in this business. It's we want to

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Speaker 1: push something so we have something to talk about. Andy

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, the offensive philosophy that you have in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: and you bring in Trevor Lawrence with a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of x expectation there. I said to you that Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater was going to get the start, told you that

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Speaker 1: he's got a big arm. But Teddy Bridgewater is going

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Speaker 1: this discussion anymore. He finishes his column, Tom Curran saying

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Speaker 1: Simms about that. As mac Jones done enough and with

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Speaker 1: at least according to Tom Kern, he's seen enough. Mac

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Speaker 1: know exactly what you're getting absolutely, and it's not he's

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Speaker 1: He's a lot of things that you want in a

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Speaker 1: the starter? I'd be surprised if Belichick goes with a

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Speaker 1: curious about. When Tom Kerrn is watching practice and Mac

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start him now, Like, is that what

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Speaker 1: And maybe that is, but it was wishful reporting With

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is starting now. There's nothing that's changed. New

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Speaker 1: England could be changing right now. That's the news. The

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Speaker 1: to fill what's going on in New England. I think

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Speaker 1: goes with Mac Jones. I have no intel, I have

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Speaker 1: no sources with New England. I don't know anything. I'm

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Speaker 1: not hearing sources close to Nope, I don't have any

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything in New England. But I do

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Speaker 1: trust Tom Curran. But I do think Tom Curran has

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Speaker 1: not exactly been a Cam Newton cheerleader, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's probably going Mac is our guy. Yes, McLevin. I've

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Speaker 1: heard the comparison when Balichick chose Tom Brady over drew

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Speaker 1: Bledsoe Brady early in his career, slow and steady, not spectacular, Bledsoe, big,

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Speaker 1: I remember after that Super Bowl, I didn't see enough

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Speaker 1: he's going to be great. Well, you gave Drew Bledsoe

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Speaker 1: happens in this situation? Likes it's crazy. How if Trent

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Speaker 1: Green doesn't get hurt? The Kurt Warner's story may never happen. Right,

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Speaker 1: If Peyton Manning doesn't injure his neck, then where does

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Speaker 1: Andrew Lucko? Is he still playing? Now? Does Peyton get

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Speaker 1: another Super Bowl? Like? It's crazy? How this stuff happens. Yes,

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Speaker 1: do you think Drew Bledsoe and Trent Green could have

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Speaker 1: Probably so. I mean, I mean Drew Bledsoe was a

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Speaker 1: think it's a real competition here, Like Trevor is way

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Speaker 1: better than Gardner Minshew. I mean, maybe doesn't have quite

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Speaker 1: the experience yet in those things, but the talent is

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Speaker 1: that's not comparable. But you know so I thought like

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Speaker 1: maybe that's and he listened to the Monday Night crew,

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Speaker 1: right they were kind of saying some things like that,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, okay, so this is more about

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Speaker 1: getting the team in the right place. It really has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with a true competition. I think really ultimately,

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, Hey, I know he's adjusting to life in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and all those things. But damn, he's still

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Speaker 1: really smart, understands football, and I think he'll play a

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Speaker 1: certain way to protect Trevor Lawrence. You know, I said

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Speaker 1: today on the show today the phrase I used, You said,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, I said, don't Joe Burrow Trevor Lawrence, don't

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Speaker 1: do that. Don't have him drop back forty five times

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Speaker 1: a game at all. We gotta win, even though we

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Speaker 1: know we're not going to be in the playoffs. We

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Speaker 1: gotta go for five and eleven, Like, who the hell

441
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Speaker 1: cares if you're five and eleven or three and thirteen, right,

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Speaker 1: like save the franchise. I mean, they didn't do that

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. And you know I heard the other night too,

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer talked to Joe Burrow in the off season,

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Speaker 1: So that's in his mind. And I think he'll do

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Speaker 1: the right thing here and realize the big picture and

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Speaker 1: not fall into the trap of, oh, we're losing. I

448
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Speaker 1: just gotta let Trevor loose and let him try to

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Speaker 1: carry the team. I don't think I think he's too

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Speaker 1: smart to see the big picture there. As John Elway

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Speaker 1: whipped on another quarterback, I don't know if he's whipped

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that yet. About Drew Locke, There's

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Speaker 1: some things I like. He played better towards the end

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Speaker 1: of last year. I think, you know, when you take

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Speaker 1: a few things into account here, Vic Fangio, he's a

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Speaker 1: defensive head coach. They usually aeron, let's go with the

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Speaker 1: safer quarterback. Let's go with the quarterback that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: mess it up for my defense. George Peyton, the GM,

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Speaker 1: he came from Minnesota, he was there when they drafted Teddy.

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Speaker 1: And I think ultimately, you know, Drew Locke I think

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Speaker 1: scarred Vic fan Joe a little bit last year. It

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Speaker 1: was some of the bad decisions, reckless throws, things like that,

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Speaker 1: to where Teddy is the safe bet. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Teddy can maximize the talent of the

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Speaker 1: offense quite the way Drew Locke ken, but I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I understand his logic here with going with

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Speaker 1: the proven veteran who knows how to protect the football

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Speaker 1: and is not going to mess things up early on

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Speaker 1: in the year and kind of get them behind the

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Speaker 1: eight ball. If that doesn't go well, then you bring

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Speaker 1: the flamethrower, you know, off the bench and go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we need you we need you to make some plays

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Speaker 1: and do those type of things, and Locke has looked

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Speaker 1: very good in the preseason. It feels like every year

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Speaker 1: we get mixed opinions on preseason, like don't read too

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Speaker 1: much into preseason, and then we ultimately read too much

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Speaker 1: into preseason. How important is like a preseason game to

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Speaker 1: a regular season game. How different is it at the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking position. Sure, it's a lot different. I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing it's just more it's just it's elementary for

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Speaker 1: I think some of the start, you know, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to unveil some of your best plays. There's really

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Speaker 1: no game planning like, hey, this team does this, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna attack them like that. You're kind of just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we gotta go out here and work on what we

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Speaker 1: gotta work on and do that, and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to show too much for their you know, and have

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Speaker 1: team to be ready in the regular season. The defenses

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Speaker 1: of the same way. You know, you don't get to

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Speaker 1: see a lot of exotic, variety type defenses in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and then it slowly starts to progress where you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a little bit more of that this weekend. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: You're right, you don't read too much into it, but

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Speaker 1: there's certainly some things that you can take from preseason

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Speaker 1: to go, oh, that team, Like let's say the Miami Dolphins. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'll just use them as an example. What are they

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Speaker 1: two and oh in the preseason. I don't really care

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Speaker 1: what their record is. I just look at them and go, Man,

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Speaker 1: the way that team looks I like it. They got

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Speaker 1: depth on the front line, they got depth in the

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Speaker 1: front seven, they got speed at the right positions. Two

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Speaker 1: was improved. So that gives me the inkling at least

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Speaker 1: to say, like, hey, I'm not gonna say they're going

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, but they're going to be right in

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Speaker 1: the thick of things and you know, are going in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. He's Chris Simms Pro Football Talk co host.

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Speaker 1: Former NFL quarterback Matthew Stafford says, Hey, I want to

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Speaker 1: play in big games and I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: playing at one o'clock on a Sunday. Well, how much

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Speaker 1: of that is on Matthew Stafford that like he didn't

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Speaker 1: win a playoff game. We look at the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: you know you're supposed to elevate your team. I know

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Speaker 1: he didn't elevate his team. Well, let's see, I'll disagree

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Speaker 1: a little bit there. I mean the fact that they

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Speaker 1: were even in the playoffs at some of those years,

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Speaker 1: they were only there because of matt Stafford, you know.

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Speaker 1: And again I think we've talked about this before. Let's

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Speaker 1: not forget horrible call in the Dallas playoff game right

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Speaker 1: with the pass interference late or whatever the damn penalty

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Speaker 1: is that they called there. I can't remember these specifics.

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Speaker 1: They were kind of in the league. That was a

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Speaker 1: controversial call, you know. The other year they went to

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Speaker 1: what Seattle in a wildcard game one year and playing

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Speaker 1: the playoffs there, receivers dropped the ball. I mean, go

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Speaker 1: back and watch it. So the team has failed him

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Speaker 1: to a degree. And a lot of these years, Dan

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Speaker 1: where I'll always argue, would defend where they were maybe

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Speaker 1: seven and nine or six and ten. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: go like they would be two and fourteen if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for Matthew Stafford. No thousand yard rusher since what

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Speaker 1: two and twelve? You know, no offensive line, no namesake

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Speaker 1: defensive guy you can come up within the Matthew Stafford ever,

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Speaker 1: other than Sue early on in his career to go.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, they did have one good defensive guy his

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Speaker 1: whole era there. Oh wait, they did have Calvin Johnson. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they've had three people in like ten years. What would

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Speaker 1: he do? What is he supposed to do with that?

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Speaker 1: So I'm a defender of him, but I know I'm

539
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Speaker 1: gonna be watching this year too, because it's gonna be

540
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Speaker 1: a big year. He's got at least some talent in

541
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Speaker 1: the system around him here that he should be able

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Speaker 1: to maybe shut some of the haters up. Well, I

543
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Speaker 1: was on the bandwagon probably before anybody saying if you're

544
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Speaker 1: looking for an MVP candidate, this is this is the guy.

545
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Speaker 1: And but I wonder about that. You know, you lose

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Speaker 1: cam Akers. Is Sony Michelle an upgrade? No? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: He is not Sony Michelle. I mean I listen that

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Speaker 1: that was. It's a risky trade and in my opinion

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Speaker 1: to a degree. You know, first off, he's a first

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Speaker 1: round pick in New England's trade in him away, Right,

551
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Speaker 1: there's something they don't they don't like, right, and you know,

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Speaker 1: anything you know rams pick up nikkil Harry, then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna worry about that way, Yeah, exactly right. But they're desperate,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you know, like you're saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's their run game is important to their success. That's

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Speaker 1: how that that's really what you know. Their offense is

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Speaker 1: based around that, and then the bootlegs and the play

558
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Speaker 1: actions and the speed sweeps all come off of that.

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Speaker 1: So they they I think, you know, the one thing

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Speaker 1: I always give the Rams credit for it. They push

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Speaker 1: the chips in the middle of the pile every year

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Speaker 1: and go, we're going for it. We're trying to win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We don't care. We're not going to

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Speaker 1: Eton or Eton nine or was nine and eight or

565
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Speaker 1: anything like that. We are for it. So but Sony Michelle,

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Speaker 1: I mean, knee issues. Anybody I talked to in the

567
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Speaker 1: NFL thinks it's not going away. There's a real issue there.

568
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Speaker 1: But I would expect them to sign another running back

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Speaker 1: or two here when cuts are made, you know, to

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Speaker 1: bolster that group all together. If Belichick is calling you

571
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Speaker 1: and he wants to trade you somebody, yeah right, you

572
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Speaker 1: better be like, what we need to do extra homework

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Speaker 1: than normal, because I will say this, Belichick is really

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Speaker 1: good at getting rid of players a year early than

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Speaker 1: a year less. He may not be great at drafting players,

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Speaker 1: certainly in the first round and skill position players. But

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Speaker 1: you know when it's hey, I got Richard Seymour, you interested, Uh, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got Jamie Collins, you and I got Lawyer Malloy,

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Speaker 1: You interested like you go? Yeah, those are big names.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Hey, anybody who said

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Speaker 1: in Malcolm Butler, Yes, yeah, those things. Who was the

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Speaker 1: Logan Mankins? Remember that? Yeah, Tom's mad. His offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: got traded to Tampa and all of a sudden, yeah right, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I know, Bill's got a great feel of getting that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Oh, it's coming to the end. Maybe he's

586
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Speaker 1: got one more year, but it's it's about over. And yeah,

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00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: he's a step ahead of the game that way. And

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Speaker 1: that's some of the toughest things to do as a

589
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Speaker 1: head coach because you know, yeah, it's to say what

590
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Speaker 1: you want. These coaches do like their players. There is

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Speaker 1: a personal aspect, but the his ability to cut the

592
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Speaker 1: cord a year early has of course made them really

593
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Speaker 1: really damn good for a long time because of that.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I would be weary of of of

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, and I'll certainly be watching more likely to

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Speaker 1: disappoint Yeah, Cowboys, Browns. I'm gonna go Cowboys. I gotta

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Speaker 1: see it to believe it. With the Cowboys first, the

598
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Browns last year just kept going like this, and then

599
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Speaker 1: this year they just made their roster just keep going

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Speaker 1: like this. And it's year two in the same system

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Speaker 1: for Baker Mainfield, and you know, everything you hear Odell

602
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Speaker 1: Beckham Junior looking really damn good. I mean, on paper,

603
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Speaker 1: the Browns roster is as impressive as anybody in football.

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Speaker 1: So I think between that, you know, Stefanski and Baker

605
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Speaker 1: have created a little culture there. They're pretty damn good

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the on the both sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball. And Dallas, I just want to go one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure Dak is totally himself and he hasn't

609
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Speaker 1: played and now he's gonna go to Tampa week one,

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Speaker 1: and just what carry the team. I don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: sold they're gonna be able to run the ball. I

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Speaker 1: gotta see Ezekiel Elliott, you know, and everybody's talking about

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Speaker 1: he's leaner and quicker. I want to go. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: look good that his legs are half the size of

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and hud Be a hard knocks. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen running back to really be that successful

617
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Speaker 1: when their legs are half the size of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta see that. And then of course the defense,

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Speaker 1: we know it is a disaster last year. So I'll

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Speaker 1: pick the Cowboys in that that department. Oh gosh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what it's just the it's the Cowboys. I know, they

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Speaker 1: more attention than it feels like all of the other

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Speaker 1: teams combined. I agree, I know, but it's just because

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Speaker 1: they're America's team in that popular fan base, right, it

625
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Speaker 1: really is for the most part. And Jerry's you know,

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Speaker 1: amazing at keeping them in the news and relevant and

627
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Speaker 1: doing things like that. But you're right, yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: amazing they do. They get too much attention. They got

629
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Speaker 1: a few stars, but yeah, they gotta they gotta have

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Speaker 1: a team. And you know that's where you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at it where the team. I mean, yeah that

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Speaker 1: you know, there's some good things, but everybody talks about

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Speaker 1: the talent, Chris, because it's the Cowboys. Like man, those

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Speaker 1: linebackers Sean Lee, Layton Vander and I'm going, where are

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Speaker 1: these guys? I know, Jalen Smith, I mean he's a backup.

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Speaker 1: I know, they paid them all this money. He's a backup.

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Speaker 1: He's not even gonna starting their team this year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory second round pick. Never, he's never done crap

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Speaker 1: for them. You know, They've had some interesting moves and decisions.

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Speaker 1: They've made Taco Charlton right first round pick a few

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Speaker 1: years ago. I mean, damn, he might not be in

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Speaker 1: the league this year. So they've swung and missed there too,

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Speaker 1: that I think really been a detriment to the building

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Speaker 1: of their football team. Uh So, yeah, it is. They're

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Speaker 1: they're overhyped. It is. It's just Dak Prescott, Amari Cooper,

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, and Ezekiel Elliott. And we'll see where it

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Speaker 1: goes from there. When do you make your Super Bowl pick? Um?

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Speaker 1: Probably next week on my podcast, I gotta start kind

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Speaker 1: of formulating, you know, playoff teams and doing that. How

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Speaker 1: about who are you not picking? Who am I not picking?

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Speaker 1: Like you mean that of like true playoff? I mean, first,

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Speaker 1: I'm not picking Chicago to go to the playoffs or

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Speaker 1: anything next year? Any in Chicago? Yeah? Right, that dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that music. That's great. Um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean I don't know who I'm not picking. That's a

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Speaker 1: Seattle I'm not sure about. I gotta see Seattle a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you know, a little offseason drama. You know,

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Speaker 1: new offense, offensive line. Hey, we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I'll just say too, is, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's the defense got better last year, but underwhelming secondary

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Speaker 1: other than Quandre Diggs, Nobody up front that you're worried about. Right,

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Speaker 1: Geron Read's gone. It's a lot of like young guys

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Speaker 1: where you're going, Oh, they got potential, but is it

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Speaker 1: gonna come through? So they'd be a team that I

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Speaker 1: look at. Yeah, I almost a borderline like some I

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Speaker 1: have some thoughts to go. Man, Seattle I think is

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Speaker 1: on the playoff bubble in that division. I think the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers the Rams will be good. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be shocked to see them kind of fighting for their

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Speaker 1: life this year. Better team Chargers, Rams, who has more wins.

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Speaker 1: The thing that scares me so much about the Rams

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Speaker 1: is they're just so thin. It is a twenty two

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Speaker 1: man team and like two injuries, they could totally be

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Speaker 1: derailed there. Man, who am I gonna pay? I'm still

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Speaker 1: gonna go with the Rams. I'm gonna go with the

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Speaker 1: proven commodity here in McVeigh and Raheem Morris being the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator with Matthew Stafford as that Chargers team, I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: they're a team that I'm certainly think about putting in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But it is a new offensive coordinator. I

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Speaker 1: still don't know why they really let Shane Stike and

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Speaker 1: go out the door with the success they had, but

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert and him last year. But Joe Lombardi, of course,

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Speaker 1: we know he's pretty damn good under Sean Payton. So

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Speaker 1: I just I guess that there's some things there I

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Speaker 1: want to see. Can Derwin James stay healthy? Can Joey

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Speaker 1: Bosa stay healthy? So that's why I'll air on the RAMS,

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Speaker 1: which certainly wouldn't be shocked at the Chargers were in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Too great to talk to you, Chris, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. As always, we'll talk soon, all right,

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Speaker 1: mat see you guys. Be good. Chris Sims, Pro Football

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Speaker 1: the dan as front row back row. Mclovin has a

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Speaker 1: poll question or Paully has the poll question and mcloven

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Speaker 1: is taking offense to it. Yeah, So the actually the

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Speaker 1: pole question of the site is whose career would you want?

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick or Jay Cutler? And it's actually fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: to start, all right, And that led to Paully's question,

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Speaker 1: all right, so you know where those guys went to college.

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Speaker 1: So I was thrown out there. If you could get it,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're a good student high school and you

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Speaker 1: get accepted in two colleges, Vanderbilt or Harvard. Which one

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Speaker 1: you go to now before you say, oh, of course,

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Speaker 1: it's Harvard. Vanderbilt in Nashville. That seemed like a good

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Speaker 1: old time as well as I think Vanderbilt considers themselves

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Speaker 1: like a Southern Ivy League school, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think that's like a destination school. Harvard. We know

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Speaker 1: what Harvard is. Glove and said, I'm absolutely nuts for

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Speaker 1: this bold question you because you think the answer is Harvard. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and obviously all the numbers would support that's

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Speaker 1: the most applied to school, the hardest to get into,

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Speaker 1: the most accepted, Like it's the highest demand of any

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Speaker 1: college in the country. It's Harvard, probably way ahead of Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: That is it harder to get into Harvard than it

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Speaker 1: is Stanford. I think Harvard, you know, I could look

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Speaker 1: at you as new as a World report. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I actually was talking about this the other day. Stanford, Yale, Harvard,

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Speaker 1: and Prince were like the big whatever for But there's

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Speaker 1: something about Harvard that's different. You have a golden ticket

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Speaker 1: for life. You're handed the CEO job the day you

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Speaker 1: walk out of there if you want it. That's what

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Speaker 1: I've heard I didn't get in I'm here, But don't

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Speaker 1: you that that's just what I think. You got into Harvard.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't be here if I dto Harvard, I'd be

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Speaker 1: either writing for The Simpsons or EO of a tech company.

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Speaker 1: That's like the two options. That's all they do. But

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Speaker 1: you know some you know some Harvard people and your family,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty successful, right, yeah they are, yeah, pulling. I

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Speaker 1: found a couple different twenty twenty one reports of toughest

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Speaker 1: colleges to get into. Stanford in a bunch of them

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Speaker 1: is number one and Harvard is number two. You can

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Speaker 1: find a couple where it's flip flopped, but those two,

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Speaker 1: and like Andrew said, Princeton's right up there, University of

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Speaker 1: Chicago's right out there, Yale, etc. But it isn't. The

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Speaker 1: acceptance rate at Stanford and Harvard around six percent. Does

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Speaker 1: that sound about right? Could be? Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a lot I keep reading these stories that it's so

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Speaker 1: hard to get into these elite schools right now, harder

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Speaker 1: than ever. And that's why that you had that operation

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Speaker 1: Varsity Blues. Yeah, USC's possible to get into I know,

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Speaker 1: And it just felt like that was Overnight, used to

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Speaker 1: be a commuter school, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's really hard to get into USC. Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame I've heard, is like possible now yeah, uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Point Vanderbilt in the top fifteen. Can you imagine going

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Speaker 1: to Harvard and being not successful? But I will say

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Speaker 1: when you talk about Vandy is in Nashville, Harvard's in Boston,

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Speaker 1: and Boston, you could make a case is the best

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Speaker 1: college city in America city? Yeah, yeah, okay, No, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, how many universities are within fifteen twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes of Boston. It's crazy the number of I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a great college town. People don't talk about it

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Speaker 1: as a college town. But Boston's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: universities up there. Yes, point, but the food in Nashville

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Speaker 1: little bit better there. Yes, mclud people swear by Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I that does sound fun. You know. I applied to

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Speaker 1: I was gonna go to law school. I got into Vandy,

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Speaker 1: and I got into a bunch of places, and I decided,

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