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Speaker 1: Wow, woe, What is up? Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's Me your Man, nam G.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, still masking and socially distancing when and where necessary,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Michael F. Florida and our producer

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Speaker 1: Steve and we are through the divisional weekend of the postseason.

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Speaker 1: We've got the championship games coming up next week that

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Speaker 1: should be really really fun. I mean, Florida, I gotta

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Speaker 1: as to start with you, like this week, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: was it was it as nerve wracking as the week before.

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Speaker 1: I think for an outside observer, um, it maybe wasn't

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Speaker 1: as action packed, But I felt like in the second half,

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Speaker 1: like after that third quarter, the Bills just sort of

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Speaker 1: rolled And maybe I feel like that maybe it took

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Speaker 1: the edge off for you. I don't know. I was

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Speaker 1: more nervous this past week than I was a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, because I was more fearful of Lamar

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Speaker 1: and Baltimore than I was the Colts, and the Colts

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Speaker 1: made me. Really it was kind of the opposite effect

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Speaker 1: Like the Colts. It felt like the Bills were in

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Speaker 1: control of that game for most of the game, and

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Speaker 1: then late they came made to come back and made

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Speaker 1: me real nervous. This game was very opposite, Like it

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Speaker 1: was close for you know, like three and a half

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Speaker 1: or two and a half quarters or so, so like

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Speaker 1: at halftime, I'm still sitting there like, oh man, we

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Speaker 1: need to come out, the Bills need to come out,

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Speaker 1: and need they need to score touchdown here and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, they get to touchdown, they get

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Speaker 1: to pick six. After that. It was a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: but it was kind of reversed from the first week

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Speaker 1: whereas they made me sweat late and then this past

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Speaker 1: week they didn't. It's the first game. Going into it, though,

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Speaker 1: markets I'm kind of like, whatever happens happens. Now. Look

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Speaker 1: I get it because that's sort of where I was

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Speaker 1: with the forty niners last year, where you know, at

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Speaker 1: some point I realized they were just sort of playing

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Speaker 1: with house money. And you know, even when they got

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, I went into that game thinking, look,

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Speaker 1: gonna be upset because you know, they nobody expected them

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Speaker 1: through three quarters in that Super Bowl. I said it

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Speaker 1: was it was a bit of a gut punch and

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Speaker 1: I was disappointed, but I couldn't be, you know, just

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Speaker 1: upset about it afterwards. Uh so, like, Okay, congrats to

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Speaker 1: getting this far. Um. I would imagine that against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: of relaxing now, and so that should be interesting. I

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Speaker 1: do have to say, though, because there have been some

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Speaker 1: head coaching hires made and I gotta I we gotta

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Speaker 1: talk to to our producer Steve here because, uh, here's

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Speaker 1: our resident Lions fan on this show. And so you

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Speaker 1: guys decided sort of out of nowhere to hire the

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Speaker 1: South Parks PC principle a k a. Dan Campbell, uh

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Speaker 1: to be your head coach. I mean I saw the

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Speaker 1: headline and I really had to look over to make

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Speaker 1: sure this wasn't like a fake Adam Schefter or something

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Speaker 1: like that on on Twitter, or a fake you know,

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Speaker 1: like rap shield or something like that on Twitter. Um. Please,

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Speaker 1: I I just want to know, from the mind of

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Speaker 1: a Lions fan, how you're feeling about Dan Campbell. Now

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Speaker 1: is your head coach coming off the heels of Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, I did the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: had to double triple check, like this is for real,

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Speaker 1: what happened. Do you remember when you were a kid

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Speaker 1: really really wanted to, say, a football? You open that

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Speaker 1: be good. Uh, we just we really don't know what

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Speaker 1: the signing here of Dan Campbell. I guess he was

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about Dan Campbell. And there were some

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you're talking about the Lions defensively were

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Speaker 1: the other side, you've got a talented wide receiver and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay who just had a weird story at the

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Speaker 1: know the it's like asking it yes or no question

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Speaker 1: that somebody responding with potato like it just doesn't make Yeah.

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Speaker 1: memes from South Park, because they look identical. If you don't,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know what I'm talking about, just go

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Speaker 1: on on Google and google PC principle and then google

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and you realize you will realize that they are.

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Speaker 1: Probably then say, I don't know if Trey Parker and

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Speaker 1: Lions fans. Yep, yep. So this we had two super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: we'll see you then. As Shan O'Hara once told a

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Speaker 1: with our exit interviews. We are numbers seventeen through twenty

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Speaker 1: the end here. Uh. In fact, this this episode has

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Speaker 1: And again the Raiders this year, I felt like flor

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Speaker 1: Like he was tight end to this year. He finished

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Speaker 1: past year. And I think it's proves that a John

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Speaker 1: Gruden offense is very tight in friendly, especially when you

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Speaker 1: the team I think Purgreats already has sort of maybe

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Speaker 1: Was that a Sunday night game? I believe it was.

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Speaker 1: They They lose that heartbreaker to the Chiefs. But at

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Speaker 1: But I go back to that he had over twenty

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Speaker 1: you could watch him play and be like, this guy

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Speaker 1: I mean, is is it really based on what happens

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Speaker 1: with to his progression in the off season? Keeping in mind,

430
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: and people pointed this out, we're talking about a guy

431
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: who was coming off of a pretty devastating hip injury

432
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 1: right where you. People were worried about him being able

433
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 1: to walk for a while, let alone going out and

434
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: playing in football. Look, this is the same hip injury

435
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: that essentially ended Bo Jackson's you know, and into his

436
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: football career sort of really put a crimp on his

437
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: baseball career as well. So the fact that twas out

438
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: there playing football is sort of a miracle, but it

439
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 1: really is. Is it as simple as saying, you know,

440
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: if the Dolphins get a healthy and productive to a

441
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,719
Speaker 1: Tongue of Viola next year, that everything else in that

442
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: offense gets better. Yeah, I think so, because the quarterback

443
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 1: position is the utmost important position in any sports. So

444
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: if he can take those next steps. And again, I

445
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: know I said, like, to a Tongue of Voloa didn't

446
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 1: play great this year, and I don't think he did.

447
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,239
Speaker 1: That's not me in any way saying like write this

448
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: guy off because I'm a Bills fan. Man, I think

449
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: the transition from Josh Allen year one to this year

450
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: is night and day. Wouldn't even think they were the

451
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 1: same person if you watched it. So I again, and

452
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: to it came in as a much more hyped up

453
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: prospect with a lot a lot of pedigree around him.

454
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 1: So yes, I'm not willing to write him off. Um,

455
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: but I do for fantasy purposes. I have big concerns

456
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: about this offense for next year. So for me, really

457
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: like I'm hoping that they bring back fit See as

458
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: a backup. I know that's no guarantee. Um, because I

459
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: would like an insurance policy there in case to just

460
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't, you know, take the next steps and it's

461
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: something similar to this past season. But I think a

462
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be pretty low on this

463
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: offense coming into fantasy. To of maybe could be one

464
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: that I see getting some hype, and I think Mike

465
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: a Ski'll get hype as well, just because tight ends.

466
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: But like I think DeVante Parker is gonna go later

467
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: and he did in twenty I don't think, uh, maybe

468
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: if it's just Miles Gascon as the lead running back,

469
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: he'll go earlier than those other running back than the

470
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: two guys from this past season, but those guys were

471
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: going in like round six. I don't expect my is

472
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: gasking to go a whole lot sooner than that. So

473
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: I think for fantasy a lot of these pieces are

474
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna go later in drafts. But if to Ah can

475
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: take the next step and play a lot better than

476
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: that is just gonna lead to those guys being even

477
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: bigger values. And that is what wins you leagues. Like

478
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: finding these guys later in rounds that can end up,

479
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, really surpassing their ADP. So saying all that

480
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: and you talked about running backs, Um, because the one

481
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: the one positive thing or one of the positive things

482
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: I should say about the running back situation was that

483
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: whoever it was, he was the guy. Right When it

484
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: was Miles Gasket, they went pretty much exclusively with Miles Gasket.

485
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: When it was savan Akhmed, they went almost exclusively with

486
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: savan Akhmed. So you sort of knew that whoever was

487
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: the starter, where was the healthy guy, That's who was

488
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: going to get the majority of the opportunity. Uh, you know,

489
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard's not there. Uh, you know, Matt Breeda was

490
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: kind of a non factor. I'd be surprised if if

491
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: maybe he's there again next season, knowing what we have seen,

492
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: knowing who's currently on the roster. What sort of approach

493
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: are you taking with the Dolphins running backs in your

494
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: drafts next year? So as of right now, Like if

495
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: they don't act like draft or sign a big running

496
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: back and they're going into next year with a RB

497
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: tandem of Gaskin and savan Akhman, I I agree with you, Marcus,

498
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: like I love the fact that they used one primary

499
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: running back and that thinking is why I got so

500
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: sucked into Kennyan Drake this past season. But I think

501
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different here. Gaskin is not a

502
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: player like Drake. He's not going to come with a

503
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: bunch of hype. I don't expect like that. We're not

504
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about the Dolphins offense potentially being one

505
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: of the best in the league like we were with

506
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: Kyler Mary and the Cardinals offense. So I realistically think

507
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: that Miles Gaskin I couldn't see him going in like

508
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: rounds five or six as a low end RB two

509
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: or high end RB three um because I think there's

510
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna be people like us Marcus who were like, hey,

511
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: this guy was pretty good last year when he got

512
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: the opportunity. That is value to be had there. But

513
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna see the

514
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: names Miles Gaskon and be like, he's solid, I can

515
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: get him. You know, there's other better and more exciting

516
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: running backs or something like that, and that's gonna kind

517
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: of lead to him sliding a little bit. So if

518
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: he goes in like rounds five or six is and

519
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: I can get him as like my RB three, I'll

520
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: be interested. But if he comes with some hype and

521
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: goes a little bit higher than that, I'll probably won't

522
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: have him on many teams. Uh, real quick, twelve team

523
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: you know, redraft standard one quarterback leagues are you drafting to? No?

524
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, maybe he has some upside, but like

525
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: there's I think legitimately nine quarterbacks who could be the

526
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: QB one next year, and he's not even anywhere close

527
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: to that. And then there's still like that group doesn't

528
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: include like Tom Brady and and these other more proven

529
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who I think are still useful pieces. So I

530
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: probably won't have too on any of my teams next year.

531
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: And I would also say, like I would trade to

532
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: and whatever it took to get to Shaun Watson Miami.

533
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: If with the Dolphins, I mean, yeah, you've got you've

534
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: got a window that's starting to open right now if

535
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: you're the Dolphins, right like, obviously you've got to contend

536
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: with the Bills in your division for the foreseeable future,

537
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: but your window to being really competitive is is just

538
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: opening right now. Um, if you could get the Shawn Watson,

539
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: I think there are maybe you know, twelve to fifteen

540
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: teams that don't need DeShawn Watson. Everybody else should be

541
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: picking up the phone everybody else should be picking up

542
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: the phone and saying, you know what, what will it

543
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: take to get Watson over our side? So we'll see

544
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: um all right? So next we go to Washington. It

545
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: is the football team. They were seven and nine, which

546
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: they are the only team in this group with a

547
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: losing record. Weird thing, by the way, Uh, just a side.

548
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: I was just looking yesterday. There were no teams that

549
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: finished nine and seven this year. Um that we had.

550
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: We had some seven and nine teams, and some eight

551
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: and eight teams, some ten and six teams. No team

552
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: finished with nine wins this year. It doesn't mean anything.

553
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: It was just a wee thing I noticed. I was

554
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: sort of going overstandings. Usually you get a couple of

555
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: of nine and seven teams in there along the way.

556
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: It didn't happen this year. I don't know if it's

557
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: ever happened. I would think maybe. I don't know. Anyway,

558
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: that was just weird. Um. No, the football team, there's

559
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: no analysis there. It's the worst spot you could be

560
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: in football, too. I think nine and seven because late

561
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: pick you just probably missed out of the playoffs and

562
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be miserable all off exactly even the Dolphins.

563
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: They missed the pleas with you, we had a ten

564
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: win season, you know, like whatever that Now that doesn't

565
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: sound disagreed, That doesn't sounds great at all. So, like

566
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: I said, there's no analysis. It's just a weird thing

567
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: that I noticed. Um. So the football team, they were

568
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: seven and nine. Uh, they just missed out on the playoffs. Uh,

569
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: and they are picking nineteen. Actually they did not missing

570
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: play I shouldn't say that they did. They made the

571
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: playoffs this year. So yeah, in fact we are. This

572
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: is the first of the playoff teams that we have here.

573
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: So they may yeah, that's why they go behind. That's

574
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: why they're behind. Uh yeah, exactly, So we solve that mystery. Great,

575
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: So here we go. So they're seven and nine, they're

576
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: picking nine teams because they did make the playoffs, they

577
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: won the division dub What am I saying? How did

578
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: I How can I forget that whole Giants Eagles kerfuffle

579
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: we had at the end of the year. Uh, you know,

580
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: because of of what happened. Um obviously, what was good

581
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: for them that they made the playoffs? Were they losing record?

582
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: That was pretty great? Um, But beyond that, I look

583
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: at I look at what happened with Antonio Gibson, him

584
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: just sort of having the Sea's parked and becoming the

585
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: starting running back as a guy who barely played running

586
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: back in college and doing some really good things with it.

587
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: I thought that was good. I thought Terry McLaurin having

588
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: another solid year was outstanding for them. Do we count

589
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas among things that were good? I mean, he

590
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: finishes the year the top five Fantasy tight end, but

591
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean that comes with a giant asterisk, mostly because

592
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: of the position. So I think for me, what was

593
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: good it was Gibson, it was McLaurin. Uh, and I

594
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: guess the defense, but that doesn't really help us so

595
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: much fantasy wise. If there's if there's something else that

596
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm missing, please enlighten me here. No, I think I

597
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: would include Logan Thomas, I think, but that's more so

598
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: because of just tight ends. Like I think that he

599
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: is a tight end that you can Yeah, I'm not

600
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna obviously go into draft next year being like, all right,

601
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: one of my top you know, four or five picks,

602
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: I want to take Logan Thomas. But if I missed

603
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: out on one of the top guys and you know,

604
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: he felt to me like I I wouldn't be upset.

605
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: I think there's worse tight ends than him in there.

606
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: But the biggest spotlight, the bright spot to me was

607
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, because I was I was questioning him coming

608
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: into the years, saying thirty three carries his thing, you know,

609
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: like we always say, like Marcus cam Akers ran behind

610
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: the bad old line. His thing was Antonio Gibson, who

611
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: had thirty three carries as a running back in college

612
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: and it didn't hold him back at all. No preseason,

613
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: no experience at the position, didn't matter. RB thirteen and

614
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: he would have been a lot higher had he not

615
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: hurt his ankle down the stretch because he left that

616
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: game real early, so he scored like three Fantasy points

617
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: and then did not get double digits again the rest

618
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: of the year. He was clearly playing hampered, but before

619
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: that he was a top ten running back. UH and

620
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: then Terry McLaurin, we said he was quarterback prof for

621
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: most of the year, but we were proved wrong because

622
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: Alex Smith showed that he is a quarterback that can

623
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: hurt him. UH. He averaged just seven and a half

624
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: targets per game with Smith and was at ten and

625
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: a half with all the other quarterbacks and he finishes

626
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: the Wade receiver twenty this year Marcus with Dwayne Haskin,

627
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, Alex Smith, and Taylor Hannikey throwing him the ball.

628
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: So if they can get a proven, you know, a quarterback,

629
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: a steady quarterback even would be an upgrade. I think

630
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: that Terry McLaurin can be a wide receiver one and

631
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: a potential league winner. It just they need someone consistent

632
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: getting him the ball. I think that's that's sort of

633
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: the thing is and it has been the story for

634
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: mclaurin's career in his first couple of years in the

635
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: NFL has just been the number of quarterbacks he's played,

636
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: not just a number of quarterbacks, but then number of,

637
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: let's be kind less than stellar quarterbacks that he has

638
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: played with in the first couple of years of his career. Obviously,

639
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: Washington has decided they are moving on from Dwayne Haskins.

640
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: They let him go late in the season, so there's

641
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: still sort of shuffling things around, and so I guess

642
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: it leads us to the fact of what needs to

643
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: improve versus My other question about this team had been

644
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: what does the quarterback situation, How does that impact how

645
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: we feel about Gibson and McLaurin next year. And so

646
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they all sort of merge, right because

647
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about the football team the way we

648
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: talk about some of these other teams, right, the way

649
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: we talked about the Raiders and the Dolphins and you know,

650
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: you name the other teams we've talked about. So much

651
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: of what happens offensively next year is going to hinge

652
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: on what they do quarterback wise. And Alex Smith was

653
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: a great story this year. You know, the the multiple

654
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: surgeries he had, them talking about him, uh, you know,

655
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: losing his leg potentially and worried about you know, just

656
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: his his livelihood, his health long term. Uh. And for

657
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: him to battle through all of that, get back on

658
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: the field and help this team win a division and

659
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. Uh, that is amazing on its own,

660
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: but definitely pure football standpoint, Alex Smith is not the

661
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: same guy he was during his heyday in Kansas City

662
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: or early in his career in San Francisco. It has

663
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: to get better at quarterback. And I don't know what

664
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: they do. I don't know if there's somebody in the

665
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: draft because they are picking so far down that could

666
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: come in and be that that hero to turn them around.

667
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be anybody in free agency. Look,

668
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: maybe they swing a deal for Deshaun Watson, I don't know.

669
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: But until the quarterback spot gets better, I feel like

670
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: there's sort of a cap on what happens production wise

671
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: for Antonio Gibson and for Terry McLaurin and both of

672
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: those guys, and even Logan Thomas. All three of those

673
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: guys can be good players, but I feel like their

674
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: ceiling is going to be fairly limited until we feel

675
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: like there's a core her back back there that can

676
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: actually move this offense and be a threat on his own. Otherwise,

677
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be guys that you're taking, as

678
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you know McClaren, maybe a high end wide receiver to Gibson,

679
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: a high end running back to Thomas, kind of that

680
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: late round tight end. I don't know, Floyal that they

681
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: get better until the quarterback position gets better in Washington,

682
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: completely completely agree. Uh. The one player that I feel

683
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: okay about, regardless of the quarterback, is Antonio Gibson. Obviously,

684
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I think that the better the quarterback is the better

685
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: the offense, the more points, it's gonna lead to more

686
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: production for Antonio Gibson. But what I love about him

687
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: they continue to look like they use him as the

688
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: goal line runner. And I think that what he's gonna

689
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: learn over time is you don't to me, at least

690
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion, like running between the tackles is a

691
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: lot easier to learn than than running routes out of

692
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: the backfield and pass blocking and that. So I think

693
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: that as he, you know, continues to learn to be

694
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: running back at the NFL level, He's a former receiver.

695
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, he's got hands, uh, and he can catch

696
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: a lot of passes. J D. Mckissic was a huge

697
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: fantasy asset because they were throwing him the ball a bunch.

698
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: But I do agree completely Marcus, like offenses in the

699
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: NFL live and die at the quarterback position. And this

700
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: is what I'm hoping like they didn't Hennicky. I understand

701
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: he played well in the playoffs. I'm hoping they don't

702
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: get sucked into that. And and Alex Smith was a

703
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: great story, but it's it's time to move on, I think, um,

704
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: And isn't it funny how last year, the in the

705
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: off season, the story was like, there's not a whole

706
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: lot of teams that need quarterbacks. That's why like Winston

707
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: and Dalton and all these big names struggled to Cam Newton,

708
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: like they struggled to sign And now I feel like

709
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: more than half the league needs a quarterback again. It

710
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: just happened so quickly. Life comes at you fast. Uh

711
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, so you mentioned j D mckissic hundreds and

712
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: targets that was tied for second most with Logan Thomas

713
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: on the roster this year. Um, look, the the team

714
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: can get out from underneath this. Not that it's a

715
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: huge contract. I don't want to make it sound like

716
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: j D. Mckissic is pulling down a huge number there

717
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: on the on the roster. But if they decide they

718
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: wanted to move on from him, right, Uh, how much

719
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: better does that make things for Antonio Gibson in terms

720
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: of his target share? Because j D. Mckisson was it

721
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: was a kind of a three pronged passing game with McLaurin,

722
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Gibson and mckissic. If but just because there, I feel

723
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: like that does upgrade Gibson a little bit in terms

724
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: of how many targets he can get next year, Yeah,

725
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: I think it would do tremendous things for his value.

726
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: Like from week four on, mckissic was averaging nearly six

727
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: catches per game, Like that is huge volume. You set

728
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: it yourself over a hundred targets, Like I'm not saying

729
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: all of those would go to Gibson, but imagine if

730
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: they were throwing the ball and Gibson five six times

731
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: per game like that would be tremend And he showed

732
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: in flashes this year like hey, I can catch the

733
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: ball in the backfield. You throw me the ball. I

734
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: can make some plays. And like we talked a lot

735
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: about Marcus, like, oh, throw Derrick Henry the ball more.

736
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: This guy has size like that. Imagine him just bowling ball,

737
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: come and at you now with space and running groom

738
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: in front of him. It's one of those things. I

739
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: just view it as like, do whatever you have to

740
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: do to get your best players the ball as much

741
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: as you possibly can. Gibson being one of, if not

742
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: their best offensive playmaker, get him the ball as much

743
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: as you can. So, whether mckissic is on the roster

744
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: or not, I am hopeful that we're gonna see more

745
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: targets go Antonio Gibson's way, and if that's the case,

746
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: I think he can easily be a top ten running back,

747
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: maybe even higher. One thing that was good about this offense, though,

748
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: is that it was pretty concentrated. Right generally speaking, we

749
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: knew it was McLaurin, Gibson, it was Thomas. I guess

750
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: you sprinkling some kissing there. You take Mkissic out of

751
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: the picture, suddenly it becomes a three headed attack. Uh.

752
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: One other thing does this do the football team? Does

753
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: the football team? Uh? Do they need to add a receiver?

754
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: I mean for our purposes? I don't know, because we

755
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 1: don't want one more guy in there. But I feel

756
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: like for just the the efficiency of the offense, I

757
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: do feel like they need another receiver to sort of

758
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: take some of that pressure off of Terry McLaurin next year. Yeah,

759
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they need like a Alan Robinson or

760
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: like that. Like, yeah, that would be great if they

761
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: could sign a big name wide receiver. But I think

762
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: they have their wide receiver one and I think they

763
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: know that, but they need the Robin to their batman.

764
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: I agree, like you can't, Cam Simms, Steven sims Don

765
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: chell In. Men, those were like guys that you were

766
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: lining up as your wide receiver two this year. That's

767
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: not scaring defenses. That's not gonna really get a whole

768
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: lot of a whole lot done to hope it digs

769
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: up for the other guys. So I do think they

770
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: need to upgrade receiver. But hopefully it's not like someone

771
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna come in and take away work from McLaurin.

772
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's someone more that can just help him. Right.

773
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: All right, So our last team in this round of

774
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: exit interviews is the Chicago Bears. They squeaked into the

775
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: playoffs at eight and eight. They are picking in the

776
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: number twenties slots this year. Had a rough game against

777
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: these Saints. They you know, they had their shot early.

778
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: Javon Wims dropped an easy touchdown Indian zone and it

779
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: was sort of downhill from there. But hey, at least

780
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: you know they got the green slime at the end

781
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: or whatever that's worth. Um, I look at what was

782
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: good with this team. Allan Robinson continues to ball out

783
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: regardless of what the quarterback situation is. We'll see whether

784
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: or not he's back there next year. It sounds like

785
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: he has checked out. I don't know if they saw

786
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: the quote from him, uh maybe a week or so

787
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: ago where they asked about the possibility of him coming

788
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: back and he said, yeah, maybe we can get something done,

789
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: but then again, we've had three hundred and sixty five

790
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: days to get something done. So that to me sounded

791
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: like I'm gone to like I don't love this city

792
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: or something like that, and that's usually the like usually

793
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: athletes like I love my fans, fans, the city and everything.

794
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I think he even said like, yeah, I don't really

795
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: love this city, and I was just like, whoa that

796
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: anything that is really because I love the city of Chicago.

797
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I think Chicago is great. Uh you know, if it

798
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: weren't for the fact that they have actual like Game

799
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: of Thrones type winter, Like I consider living there, um,

800
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: but as a of California and I don't really do

801
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: winter so much, so that that's a big strike against

802
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: against the city of Chicago. But otherwise I think it's

803
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: a great city. Um, they got good pizza. I've I've

804
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: eaten that. It's yeah, look I've had I've had some

805
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: great times at Wrigley Field. I'm not even a Cubs fan,

806
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: but an afternoon to regulate. It's a good time. I'm

807
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: definitely not gonna knock it. Um. So Alan Robinson was good,

808
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: David Montgomery had a great finish to the season. Is

809
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: that it was there anything else about this team that

810
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: that stood out to you fantasy wise this year. I

811
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: think the only other player that might get some fantasy

812
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: hype next year, and I think he will. I think

813
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: it's cold Commit because tight end again, um, but he

814
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: started to get more work as the year went on.

815
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: He was I believe the first tight end drafted in

816
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: or maybe not, but one of the first and just

817
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: a good athlete, former baseball player at Notre Dame. And

818
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: they when they started to phase out Jimmy Graham, we

819
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: saw some hype starting for him in fantasy. The annoying

820
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: part was they would use Commit in between the twenties

821
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: and then in the red zone, Jimmy Graham would come

822
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: in and score touchdown. But it felt like, you know,

823
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: him catching a touchdown against his former team and running

824
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: directly off the field like it probably is. Let's go around,

825
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: maybe in the NFL, maybe with the Bears, But I

826
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: am I'm expecting Cole Commit to get some hype next

827
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: year as well. And besides that, Anthony Miller Darnell Mooney

828
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: like no, yeah, I did love commit, especially down the stretch,

829
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: and it was frustrating to see him, you know, running

830
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: more routes, seeing more targets, but it was Graham that

831
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: was scoring the touchdowns and so like, it was hard

832
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: to sort of make the case publicly that hey, Cole

833
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: commits a guy that you really need to add, like

834
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: he's a nice stash, he has a nice and some

835
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: nice upside where like week after week the fantasy points

836
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: uh pointed towards Jimmy Graham, you know, like look, I

837
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: know you know this feeling too. It's just it's like

838
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: you're just like shouting into the voyage like no, his

839
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: player actually is really good, and everybody's like yeah, but

840
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: look at the fantasy points, and it's it's hard to

841
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: sort of have a counter argument like that. Um so

842
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: I look at what needs to improve, and I'm going

843
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: to sound like a broken record. It's the core back.

844
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: It's the you know, okay, will Mitchell Trubisky be the

845
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Chicago Bears in what is your gut

846
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: feeling telling you no? My, Like if I'm a Bears

847
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: fan and and Mitch Rubisky did enough in a cake

848
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: walk final six weeks of the playoffs like of the

849
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: regular season, to to become your quarterback again. Like like

850
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: to me, I think the three and a half seasons

851
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: or whatever it was that you saw before this final

852
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: stretch is the real Mitchell Trubisky? Like is he better

853
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: than Nick Foles? Yes? Can you take him as your backup? Sure?

854
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: But should you go into next season with him as

855
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback? No? I do not think so, because

856
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: at best I think you're getting another similar season similar

857
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: to this year, very up and down. Uh. Maybe you

858
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: sneak into the playoffs, but that's about it. Like that's

859
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: your ceiling. And if you want to live in football

860
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: purgatory Marcus as the Chicago Bears, then go ahead. But

861
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: if if it was my decision, no, he would not

862
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback next year. I don't thin he

863
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: will be either. I don't think he will be either. Um.

864
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: I think it would be interesting if be you know,

865
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe the source of jokes if somehow they were the

866
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: team that swung a deal for the Shaun Watson after

867
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: they passed on the Shaun Watson to get H. R.

868
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Whisky in the first place if they somehow have to

869
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: end up giving up extra assets to go and and

870
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: trade for a guy that they would have drafted the

871
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: first time around, that would be very very funny. That

872
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: would be my my second my favorite trade scenario would

873
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: be the Texans trading Watson to Miami for their own

874
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: draft pick. That would be funny. Also, yeah, they get there,

875
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: They're they're number three picked back from the Dolphins. That

876
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: would be pretty hilarious as well. By the way, I'm

877
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: as we sit here, I'm looking at Mitchell Drubisky's page

878
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: on Pro Football Reference and uh, they have listed his

879
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: one in VP award. His Nickelodeon Valuable Player Award is

880
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: listed on his Pro Football Reference page. So shout out

881
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: to p f R for recognizing true accomplishments. Where a

882
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: come um, But yeah, this this team look until they

883
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback situation. It's sort of like what

884
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: we talked about with Washington that you know, whoever their

885
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver is, and it probably won't be

886
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson next year. There's a ceiling there. Uh. With

887
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: David Montgomery. Okay, here's the thing with with Montgomery. His

888
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: second half of the season, right when we were all

889
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, telling people go acquire this guy. He could

890
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: be a league winner. He could help you get to

891
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he could help you win a championship. And

892
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: that turned out to be pretty accurate. He was great

893
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: down in the stretch. Real or mirage what we saw

894
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: from him in the second half. Is this who David

895
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: Montgomery actually is or did he just take advantage of

896
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: some really great matchups in the back part of the year.

897
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: So again, Marcus, I'm with you, Like I was saying

898
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: the trade for him, I think he could be a

899
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: league when I'm gonna take my victory lap there, but

900
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: I think that's where it ends. Like I think what

901
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: we saw of David Montgomery was more mirage than real

902
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: because twofold Like, yes, I'm not gonna tell you what.

903
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: It was great to see him playing well and showing

904
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: that burst and you know, finding the end zone as

905
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: much as he did. But cake walk schedule, like you said,

906
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: like they played the Jaguars, the Vikings, the the Lions

907
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: were in there, like I remember the Texans. Like there

908
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: was a stretch where every week in the matchups article

909
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that I write, I would be like David Montgomery's matchup

910
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Hot Street continues because he faced like the top four

911
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: teams and allowing fantasy points to running backs like back

912
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: to back to back to back. But that's not only

913
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: the like the biggest thing I'm gonna hold against him,

914
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Tariko and getting hurt was huge for his value. Like

915
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: after Tariko and went down, Uh, David Montgomery was a

916
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: different running back. He He had forty eight receptions from

917
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: week four on that was fourth amongst running backs. He

918
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: was averaging twenty one touches the game without Cohen, just

919
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: sixteen with Cohen, and with Cohen being back next year,

920
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: and we know how much they love using him in

921
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: the passing game, and Montgomery's starts to go back to

922
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: the usage that he had before Cohen got hurt. And

923
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is where he dominates the groundwork,

924
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: but he's on the short end of the stick in

925
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: the passing game. I think then he is more in

926
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: RB two and one that yes, he has a high

927
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: ceiling at times, but this offense two can easily hold

928
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: you back, so especially if it's too whiskey. Again, so

929
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: if right now I don't feel great even saying Montomery

930
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: can be an RB one, and I think there are

931
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: people that are going to believe in this past year

932
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: and have him ranked as such. That's sort of my fear, right,

933
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: is that the the asking price and drafts has gone

934
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: up based on what happened at the end of the season.

935
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see how much sanity, uh kind

936
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: of gets thrown into the mix, right, how much we

937
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: look back at who it was that he played down

938
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: the stretch and as you mentioned the the tariko In situation,

939
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: because that was part of what kind of got me

940
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: excited about Montgomery is realizing that they still needed a

941
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: back to throw the football too, and he was kind

942
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: of the only guy there, so he absorbed a lot

943
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: of those targets. But when Cohen comes back, I mean,

944
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: it was a couple of years ago, didn't three Cohen

945
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: have like a hundred targets? I think a couple of

946
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, I don't know that he comes back

947
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: and gets a hundred targets again. But even if he

948
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: comes back and he gets sixty to seventy targets, that's

949
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: taken a lot off of David Montgomery's plate in so

950
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like the the asking price is going

951
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: to go up, but he made it being overdrafted. If

952
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Cohen comes back and this goes back to what we

953
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: saw in twenty nineteen or even in the early stages

954
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: of UM before everything sort of went sideways in Montgomery

955
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: became kind of a true RB one in that offense.

956
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: So remember the graphic of him from college where and

957
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: we like he got made fun of that. Uh, not

958
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: really fairly because it wasn't him saying it, but like

959
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: everyone used that. I'm kind of hoping that this summer

960
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: we go full circle and people start using that again

961
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: to hype up David Montgomery. Uh yeah, ifact if you

962
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: guys don't know what we're talking about, it floats around

963
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Whenever he made a big play was from

964
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: him at Iowa State. Uh. And it was the Frankenstein

965
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: like the party put together and his feet of se

966
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, vision of Levian Bell, strength of Ezekiel Elliott,

967
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: and athleticism of Sony Michelle that that last part, that

968
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: last part is not is not quite the other three

969
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: still are you know kind of like ha ha um,

970
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: you have a Sony Michelle Park just that didn't age

971
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: well like at all. Uh So, I know it kind

972
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: of got thrown around kind of as a joke, but

973
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: you're right, I can imagine somebody kind of pulling it

974
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: up and being like, I don't know, maybe it's real.

975
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: Remember how excited, Remember how good he was. Remember this

976
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: is this is what he could be. Uh So, well,

977
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: we'll see if that happens. All right, So that gets

978
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: us to twenty on Thursday, we'll go twenty one through.

979
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: We're getting down to the end of our exit interviews here. Um,

980
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: one last thing before we wrap up, and and Steve,

981
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I want to get you back in here too, because

982
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on this as well. Um.

983
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: One of the big narratives from this past weekend was

984
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback play in that Bucks Saints game. Um, you know,

985
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: listening to Joe Buck and Troy Aikmen talk about how

986
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: amazing it was that, you know, Tom Brady and Drew

987
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: Brees were doing all this at their advanced age. And

988
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: let me just tell you that, as somebody who was

989
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: three months older than Tom Brady, hearing about them talk

990
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: about these quarterbacks as though they were as a little

991
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: bit thoseheartening. You know. I'm like, I'm three months older

992
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady, So what does that make me? Admittedly

993
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: I haven't been you know, hit by defensive linemen and

994
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: linebackers repeatedly for the last twenty years. So maybe that helps.

995
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: But I also don't need avocado ice cream anyway. Um,

996
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: seeing now that Drew Brees is probably going to retire

997
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: after that loss, also seeing the number of think pieces

998
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: about how amazing it is that Tom Brady is doing

999
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: this at forty three, it sort of made me think

1000
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: about when, certainly when we see with Breese, if he

1001
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: decides to actually retire, and whenever Tom Brady finally retires,

1002
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: the amount of online hero worship we're going to see

1003
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: over Tom Brady. I think it's going to be unbearable

1004
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: at some point, especially if you're not you know, if

1005
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: you weren't a Patriots fan, if you're not a Buccaneers fan. Uh,

1006
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be unbearable for the majority of us.

1007
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: But it also made me realize that we have not seen,

1008
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: to my recollection are in the in the Twitter era,

1009
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: we have not seen a top five all time in

1010
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: their sport athlete retire Um, Michael Jordan had long since

1011
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: retired before Twitter came around. You know, Tom Brady is

1012
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: still playing Lebron is still playing Serena Williams is still playing. Uh,

1013
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods maybe was headed that way, but you know

1014
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: his legacy, you know, I don't know. It backed into

1015
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: a fire hydrant and sort of fell apart um. And

1016
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: so it kind of made me wonder for you guys,

1017
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: who is the biggest athlete who has retired? I'll start

1018
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: with you, Steve, the biggest athlete that you have seen

1019
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: retire sort of in this Twitter era, say in the

1020
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: last it's called ten years, right, who's the biggest athlete

1021
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: you think has tired that we saw this sort of

1022
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: endless Twitter hype about. Okay, so I have a couple

1023
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: of thoughts here, can we do points for shock value?

1024
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: If you assigned points for shock value? I think the

1025
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: biggest NFL retirement would be Andrew Luck just kind of

1026
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Now he doesn't have the career achievements,

1027
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: but he did have that trajectory going on and we

1028
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: really didn't expect it to occur, and it kind of

1029
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, kind of left the colt scrambling

1030
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. That's the best comparison I think

1031
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I have, uh for Twitter era NFL retirements. The other one,

1032
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of wacky outside of football. Uh,

1033
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, who's retired like six times, not really the same,

1034
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: but he did. He I think he retires just to

1035
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: get that like greatest of all time debate going, and

1036
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: then he comes back and then he'll like do one

1037
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: about and then he'll do it again. That's those That's

1038
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: the closest thing I can think of. I will say.

1039
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned Andrew luck A. You know, the

1040
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: day he retired, when he announced his retirement, our pal

1041
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Patrick clay Band had was having a party of the

1042
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: cookout at his house and it was filled with NFL

1043
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: media types. You know, most of us. They're probably you know,

1044
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: worked for the network or something in some form or fashion.

1045
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: And I don't remember who who saw it first on

1046
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: their phones on Twitter, but there was a point where

1047
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: the party came to a halt for like half an

1048
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: hour because everybody there. In fact, there are pictures and

1049
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: somebody toasted on Twitter pictures of all of us at

1050
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: the party just stopping what we're doing, like plates in

1051
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: one hand, phones in the other, staring and just scrolling

1052
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: to like is this is this really happening? Who's on

1053
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: news updates? Do we have to stop and do pods

1054
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it was just like it was like

1055
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: a breaking news situation where a whole party just came

1056
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: to a halt and you had all these you know,

1057
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: spouses and significant others standing around staring at each other,

1058
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: and all of us kind of like halfway went to

1059
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: work on our uh in the middle of this party.

1060
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: That was That was an all timer for me, um

1061
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: so Floria. I mean, i'd say, question you though, who

1062
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: who do you recognize as maybe the biggest retirement in

1063
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: this Twitter era? There's two for me. The first one

1064
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning, but him winning the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: kind of going out on top, like it it wasn't

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Speaker 1: all about his retirement, you know, so much was about

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and everything. To me, I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest retirement and the Twitter editor was Kobe Bryant because

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Speaker 1: like it was built up that whole year, but that night,

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Speaker 1: like it it was that or are the Warriors gonna

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Speaker 1: have the best record of all time? And I believe

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Speaker 1: Kobe won the battle of like who was watching that

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Speaker 1: and that right there and just the way he went

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Speaker 1: out the sixty points and then the mom Ba out

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Speaker 1: speech like I've rewatched that and I'm not someone who

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Speaker 1: considered myself like a huge Lakers Like, I'm not a

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Speaker 1: Lakers fan. I'm not, you know, like I liked Kobe,

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Speaker 1: but he was never like my favorite player. But even

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Speaker 1: when he retired, I remember thinking like wow, like I

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Speaker 1: I did not realize how big of a part of

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Speaker 1: like my childhood growing up Kobe Bryant was because since

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Speaker 1: I was a kid and he was the face of basketball,

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Speaker 1: so that to me was number one. Um, but I

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Speaker 1: do think we're gonna get a few big ones on

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Speaker 1: the horizon, like you said, I think Brady and then

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron will will be like one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest ones ever. So with Kobe, because you know I was,

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Speaker 1: I was taking this around with some friends yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: that's how that's how I came up with this. The

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Speaker 1: thing with Kobe is one, yes, you're right, he ended

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Speaker 1: up winning that ratings war because the Warriors, as they

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Speaker 1: did to a lot of teams that season, they were blowing.

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Speaker 1: They were winning a blowout, so I think everybody was like,

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00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: all right, well this one's over, let's turn and see

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Speaker 1: what Kobe was doing. And then of course he went

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Speaker 1: berserk in that fourth quarter and then it was sixty

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Speaker 1: points and the Lakers end up winning. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was a perfect way for Kobe to go out. But

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Speaker 1: I also feel like at the beginning of his career

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Speaker 1: he played second fiddle to Michael Jordan's. Right, Like when

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Speaker 1: when Kobe came in the league, Jordan was, you know,

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Speaker 1: on his last couple of years, and so there was

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Speaker 1: sort of that rivalry there with Kobe trying to be

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Speaker 1: the next Jordan's. At the end of his career, Kobe

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Speaker 1: was sort of playing second fiddle to Lebron because Lebron

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Speaker 1: was very much you know, look, Cobe. Kobe goes out

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Speaker 1: with sixty points that season, the Warriors win seventy three games.

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Speaker 1: But and I remember this acutely as a Warriors fan,

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00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: that season ends with Lebron blocking Andre Igodala's shot. Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Irving hits a big one. The Calves end up winning

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Speaker 1: the championship that year. So Kobe was kind of a

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00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: nice story, but in the end, it was about the Warriors,

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Speaker 1: and it was about Lebron winning a title, bringing the

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Speaker 1: title to Cleveland. That ended up taking the headlines. And

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Speaker 1: I think Kobe, um, you know, as as happens in life,

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Speaker 1: ends up getting a lot more hero worship in death

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Speaker 1: than I think he did in retirement. Um. So I

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Speaker 1: just I don't I don't think there's ever The only

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Speaker 1: ones for me that that come close, uh is Derek Jeter.

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Speaker 1: I think when when Derek Jeter retired, and just seeing

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Speaker 1: all of the the tributes, you know, jay Z putting

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Speaker 1: out a tribute, all the all the songs and and

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Speaker 1: and think pieces and everything. The tributes to Derek Jeter

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Speaker 1: is maybe the the biggest one I can come up with,

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Speaker 1: um in in the last decade or so. Uh. But

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Speaker 1: I am sort of bracing myself for the endless, endless

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Speaker 1: tributes for when Tom Brady retires. Uh, and then when

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Speaker 1: Lebron retires. Uh. If you are not fans of them,

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Speaker 1: just buckle up because it's going to be going to

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00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: be a rough month, a couple of months, because it's

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Speaker 1: gonna go on for a while when those guys retire.

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Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, I just thought it was interesting. We

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Speaker 1: just have we haven't hadd us this, Marcus. We got

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Speaker 1: five years to either one retire. Yeah, You're probably right,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while before I because both those

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Speaker 1: guys are still going strong. Um. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: Serena Williams is still gonna be a while I think

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Speaker 1: before she retires as well. Uh, you know, she's into

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Speaker 1: motherhood now, but I still think I think Serena has

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Speaker 1: another act coming where she comes back strong, uh and

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: dominates tennis for another few more years before she's the

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Speaker 1: new athlete. Thing like you have to prove that you

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Speaker 1: can still be the best after age forty or like

1144
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: what are you doing right right? I think a couple

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00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago, right when it was ABC put up that

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Speaker 1: graphic of you know, Tom Brady at forty three versus

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00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: George blanda attree and like Brady looked like young and

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00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: spry and fit, and like bland of look by somebody's

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00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: grandpa at forty three years old. Like training methods, you know,

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00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: health regiments are happened very differently. But the only other

1151
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Speaker 1: athlete I can remember dominating at this age was Barry Bonds. Yeah, Bonds,

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Speaker 1: Bonds dominated a long time. Um. I was gonna say

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00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: Brett Farve got this treatment during retirement, but then you're

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Speaker 1: gonna ask, well, which which retirement are you talking because

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00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: we went through quite a few of them there, so

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here too, by the ways

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccanteers.

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Speaker 1: That is a reminder, if you haven't already, you can

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00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: still jump in and play the Playoff Challenge. Uh you

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Speaker 1: can visit Playoff Challenge dot fantasy dot NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: I know that's a mouthful. If you just google NFL

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Speaker 1: Playoff Challenge, thelink will pop up and take you right there.

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Speaker 1: I know some of you are already in playing. For

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00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: those of you who haven't get in, it's at least

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Speaker 1: fun something to kind of keep an eye on for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks of the NFL post seeds

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00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: that you can do their just kind of enjoy yourself,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the games as you were watching along all right

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Speaker 1: in the meantime For us, that is it. We are done.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show.

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Speaker 1: wear a mask, and we will see you on Thursday.

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