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Speaker 1: Friday podcast heading into week number fifteen in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, Giants visiting the Washington Commanders on Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: football biggest game of the year. A win would go

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Speaker 1: a long way to assuring a playoff spot for whatever

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Speaker 1: team wins this game, and obviously for the New York

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Speaker 1: Football Giants. So busy show today, We're going to have

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Speaker 1: a zs O Glory. I'll talk to him that will

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Speaker 1: lead us off. J. P. Finlay from NBC Sports and

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Speaker 1: Washington d C previews the Commanders, and then Bob pop

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Speaker 1: it with a sit down with Brian Dable. But first,

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Speaker 1: as a reminder, go check out prior episodes of the

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Speaker 1: GIHNT Subtle Podcast. I just talk to Chris Busyno from

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Speaker 1: Giant Insider Newspaper on podcast. That's the last one. And

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Speaker 1: then we have all our Papa's perspectives that are up

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Speaker 1: there too. And this week Bob Papa talks to Matthias

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Speaker 1: Q and Nuka about that goal line stand in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven and Week three that helped propel the

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Speaker 1: Giants to that Super Bowl. All right, let's get to

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Speaker 1: it first. I'm joined by Giants edge rusher disease. How

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Speaker 1: are you man? So I'm good man. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good man? Yes, so am I'm doing great too?

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Speaker 1: So you're getting ready for this big game. Brian Dable

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Speaker 1: does a good job of treating every game the same.

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Speaker 1: You never know if he's talking to you after a

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Speaker 1: win or a loss. Every game is important. Has that

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Speaker 1: seeped into to your approach and and the team's approach

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Speaker 1: the way he's kind of stressed that to you. Guess yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we just try to go one game at a time.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know every game is a big game, really,

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Speaker 1: especially in our division. You know, a NFC man, you

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Speaker 1: just gotta each and every game is a competitive, high

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Speaker 1: advantage of each and everyone in the back of your head, though,

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Speaker 1: Are you aware of the potential playoffs and plications here? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely for sure. Man, we were all gonna we all

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Speaker 1: know what's there and what opportunity we have in front

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Speaker 1: it done, you know, and how desperate you to get

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Speaker 1: a division win. That's kind of the one thing you

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Speaker 1: guys have in cracked yet. Man, we have to. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's manditor. We had to get a win, man,

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Speaker 1: pretty unique circumstances. You put them just two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Washington hasn't played a game right since you played them last.

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Speaker 1: So what was your tape preparation like for this week?

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Speaker 1: change based on the fact you played them so recently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we just still watching the same game. The

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Speaker 1: bye week, he's back ready. He's been at practice, though

428
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Speaker 1: not not going through team drills. UM, so we'll see there.

429
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Speaker 1: The Chase Young thing is it's I'll add this one

430
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Speaker 1: Sat Jews. It was pretty obvious in that first game

431
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Speaker 1: that the Giants were trying to attack vertically the Commander's

432
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Speaker 1: past defense, and I think that will change if St.

433
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Speaker 1: Juice is out there. So for schematically, I think he

434
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Speaker 1: matters a lot um now. But Chase Young, it's an

435
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Speaker 1: entirely unique issue. At this point, he's been medically cleared

436
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Speaker 1: for over a month. They brought him back to my

437
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Speaker 1: R on November one or second, and you don't, let's

438
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 1: be really here, fellas. You don't bring a guy back

439
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Speaker 1: if you don't think he's gonna be back. They would

440
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 1: have started his clock that far back. Um, the question

441
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 1: is confidence and if he feels like it needs ready

442
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Speaker 1: to perform, And it's one of these tough catch twenty

443
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Speaker 1: two is because how's he gonna know he's ready until

444
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 1: he's out there. And uh I, I wasn't surprised when

445
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Speaker 1: he didn't play in the meadow Lands because, whether it's

446
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 1: perception or reality, the talks surrounding the turf up there

447
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,520
Speaker 1: is a real thing in the league. And they have

448
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,600
Speaker 1: been holding Chase out of indoor practices in the in

449
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 1: the bubble at the Commander's facility because they didn't want

450
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Speaker 1: him going on the turf. So I wasn't surprised by

451
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Speaker 1: the meadow Lands at all. But it's getting closer and

452
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Speaker 1: closer to a point with Chase where it's like, if

453
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Speaker 1: you don't play him now, when are you gonna play it?

454
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Speaker 1: Like maybe you just shut him down again for the year.

455
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Speaker 1: So I feel pretty good about st Juice. I feel

456
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Speaker 1: I do feel like this is the week for Chase.

457
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Speaker 1: But he spoken reporters this week. It seemed much more

458
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Speaker 1: comfortable than he had the last time he was more

459
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Speaker 1: or less forced to talk to the media. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I give Chase a legit playing, but I think it'll

461
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Speaker 1: be situational, pitch count all those sorts of things if

462
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Speaker 1: he does play JP. You're gonna have to correct me

463
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here. But I think the bigger injury

464
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Speaker 1: changes that Tyler Larsons on injury reserve. And we know

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Speaker 1: the last time that Washington played the Giants two weeks ago,

466
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Speaker 1: they held the ball for over forty minutes and ran

467
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Speaker 1: the ball pretty well. Robinson had almost a hundred yards.

468
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Speaker 1: But if Nick Martin is the center now that larsons

469
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Speaker 1: on I are. It looked to me like when I

470
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Speaker 1: when I did the research the two games where he started,

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Speaker 1: they ran for about sixty yards and ran for about

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Speaker 1: forty yards. If this is a big detriment to their

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Speaker 1: run game, that is a huge disadvantage for Washington. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you are not wrong. Nick Martin was very very bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to dump on the guy, but he

476
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: hadn't been in the NFL for two years and there

477
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Speaker 1: was a reason they signed him off the street. Um,

478
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 1: and he was he was a turnstyle and early in

479
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: the season when he was playing, they also had Trey

480
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: Turner playing trying to cut through an injury. He was

481
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Speaker 1: also very, very bad. So those early results that you're

482
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Speaker 1: looking at are quite I mean, you know the numbers

483
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Speaker 1: of the numbers, they're awful. But I would add um,

484
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Speaker 1: they also didn't have Brian Robinson for most of that function.

485
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Speaker 1: That was when he was still on i R coming

486
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Speaker 1: back from the gunshot wound. He's sustained in August. Um,

487
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Speaker 1: So a lot of that is different. Let's start with

488
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Speaker 1: Rivera made clear they're going with West Schweitzer at center,

489
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Speaker 1: not Nick Martin. Um. Sure, Lawson is better than all

490
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Speaker 1: these guys. Schweitzer is better than Martin. Schweitzer is a

491
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Speaker 1: better in interior, offensive, live and he's better suited to

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Speaker 1: play guard, but he can play center. Um, so I'm

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Speaker 1: not expecting the significant drop off that we saw when

494
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Speaker 1: Martin was out there. The issue with Schweitzer Scott Turner,

495
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: the commander's offense coordinator, a lot runs out of the shotgun,

496
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Speaker 1: like perhaps a stunning amount, especially in short yardage situations.

497
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 1: Schweitzer's shotgun staffs are kind of a wild ride. So

498
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Speaker 1: so keep an eye on that on Sunday if if

499
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Speaker 1: balls are coming out low and high and fast and slow,

500
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Speaker 1: and um, we've seen that before. Losing Larson is a

501
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: big deal for this team. And actually I wrote a

502
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: column back when Larsen got activated off I are like,

503
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Speaker 1: all right, this is a this is a really welcome

504
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Speaker 1: sight for commanders folks, And a lot of people made

505
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Speaker 1: fun of me. They're like, oh, I'm sure a third

506
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: string center is really gonna mat matter it did. And

507
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: now he's heard again. Um he actually you know if

508
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Speaker 1: you believe it or not, but he he tweeted out

509
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Speaker 1: about the turf at the Meadowlands after he was injured

510
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: up there two weeks ago. Um, and he's a pretty

511
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: quiet guy, like he's not a very you know, loud

512
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: and and and out out there fella. Um. But yeah,

513
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, so the run game is just dramatically different

514
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: now than what it was with Martin out there. Especially

515
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Speaker 1: Robinson now is is full go and you know, i'd

516
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Speaker 1: say really well acclimated to kind of speed in the

517
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Speaker 1: NFL and everything versus when he was first coming back

518
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: after you know, a shooting um. But yeah, that will

519
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: definitely be an issue. And I'd watched the guard spot too.

520
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: I believe they'll go with Sam Cosmi at right guard,

521
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: but you know, he started in the meadowlands and then

522
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Speaker 1: had to get pulled. Hell, I don't even think he

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Speaker 1: made it to halftime, um with the angle. I think

524
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Speaker 1: he rolled his ankle. Also, Cosby is a really talented

525
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: young guy in the second round pick from two seasons

526
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: ago out of Texas, but he has trouble staying on

527
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Speaker 1: the field. So that's another thing to watch. And to

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Speaker 1: your point, JP, the Giants had one of their best

529
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Speaker 1: pass rushing performances two weeks ago against the Commanders. They

530
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Speaker 1: recorded five sacks. Cul that came on Thimbodeaux had that

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Speaker 1: big sack in overtime. I guess what I'm getting at

532
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Speaker 1: is you look at the numbers Heineke through the ball

533
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Speaker 1: forty one times and drops back forty six times with

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Speaker 1: the sacks. We know they've been heavily leaning on the

535
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Speaker 1: rushing attack in recent weeks, as you mentioned, how much

536
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Speaker 1: do you think they want to see even more runs

537
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Speaker 1: this time around or based on what they did on

538
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Speaker 1: that last drive in regulation, do you think they're more

539
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: than comfortable leaning on the likes of Curtis Samuel and

540
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: John Dotson and trying to test this giants banged up secondary.

541
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Speaker 1: They want to be running the ball. They want to

542
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Speaker 1: run the ball forty times times. That's they don't. I mean,

543
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: they'll tell you something different, but they don't really trust Taylor.

544
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Speaker 1: And you guys watch that game. Sure, there's a lot

545
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: of interceptible passes that come out, a lot of questionable decisions. Now,

546
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: he does have a flair for the dramatic, I mean,

547
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Speaker 1: the guts at the end to pull that drive off

548
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: at the four to four play that he hit Samuel

549
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: on was I mean, that's the kind of stuff that

550
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray pulls off like it's remarkable what

551
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: Taylor can do. But it's remarkable, but he also does

552
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: at times on the other on the other side, so

553
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: they they definitely want to be running the ball really

554
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: well to set up their play action. They have a

555
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: really really deadly play action fake where Taylor kind of

556
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: runs like a boot off, a two of off, a

557
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: fake two handed toss that has been highly effective for

558
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: them that they want to get back to. UM. I mean,

559
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: think about this. As magical as that fourth quarter drive

560
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: was to tie it up. I mean, John Dotson made

561
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: a hell of a play on that spin move to

562
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: get in the end zone. Um, Taylor ms Logan Thomas

563
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: in the first half for a walk in touchdown. Yep. Like,

564
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: if you hit that one, you don't have to worry

565
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: about over time later. So it's it's UM, it's kind

566
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Speaker 1: of uh. Honestly, I think Taylor is not that dis

567
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: similar from Daniel Jones. I think he might be Taylor

568
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: might be like a smarter, guttier player and Jones probably

569
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: a little more physically gifted, But I don't think they're

570
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: that different. I just think I think Washington has a

571
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: lot better skill weapons than the Giants do right now, UM,

572
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: and that helps pineks gus well. Two weeks ago, JP

573
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: neither team did much on third down, and that's one

574
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why the game in some ways kind

575
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: of dragged and you saw time neither neither team really

576
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: did the kind of execution that they probably wanted that

577
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: would have warranted a victory. So what do you expect

578
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: to see a very similar game this time around? Or

579
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Speaker 1: do you expect to see some type of of a

580
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: difference in terms of I know you just said that

581
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: Washington wants to run. I know the Giants want to run.

582
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: I know they think they'll run the ball better. What

583
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Speaker 1: will change, if anything? Or are we going to see

584
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: a second tie again? I don't know. We don't see

585
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: a second time. I imagine you guys feel the same.

586
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean one thing that really stood out to me,

587
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: and I'm curious if you fell us agree. When they

588
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: got to overtime, it kind of felt like both coaches

589
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: were okay with the time, nobody was really going for

590
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: the juggular. When when they got to the extra session there, um,

591
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: I thought there were opportunities were either coach to maybe

592
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: be a bit more aggressive. I thought Washington had a

593
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: chance to win in regulation and a penalty. He was

594
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: a killer that brought back up our return. But um,

595
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think for Washington in that game.

596
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: And this will sound ridiculous. I'm sure Giants fans will

597
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: hate me for this. I think they got hose on

598
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: a number of pretty big calls, um. And I think

599
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: those things have a way of kind of evening out,

600
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: because I hate to tell you, the Giants got hosed

601
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: on a couple of real big calls too at the

602
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: end of overtime. The tall thing was ridiculous. I agree

603
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: with that. But the there was a there was a

604
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: bass interference thrown on Terry McLaurin in the end zone

605
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: that would have had given them first a goal to one,

606
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: but they eventually missed a field goal. The flag was thrown.

607
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: That's a that's a judgment call. The ref made the judgment.

608
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: He was interfered with. You know, those don't get picked up.

609
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: I like, if there was no call made, that's fine,

610
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: But the guy made the call and then was talked

611
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: out of it, like that's that's very bizarre. Um. But

612
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: we're I'm not saying the game hinges on calls either way.

613
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Because the Towns call at the end of the game

614
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: was jumped. I I agree with that. And if you

615
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: go back to the Commander's big big win over the Eagles.

616
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: They got every break there is in that game. But

617
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: I do think ideally this one gets that is I'm

618
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: hoping that the outcome has decided on the field. I

619
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: thought the refs had an oversized impact in that game

620
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: two weeks ago in at that life and if Giants

621
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: fans feel that way and Commanders Dan's feel that way,

622
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: they it's probably true. But like I'm not saying they

623
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: decide one way or the other, but they just were

624
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: too involved in that game, and you'd like to see

625
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: it more more decided by the actions of the players

626
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: on the field. Um. The only I think the Commanders

627
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: are gonna try to run the ball forty times. I'd

628
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: be surprised if it goes away. One interesting thing though,

629
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Speaker 1: Both Antonio Gibson and Brian Robinson are on the injury

630
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: report this week, which is a little odd. Um Robinson,

631
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: especially coming off a bye week, landed on there with

632
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: a quad. Um. They're both practicing. I fully expoke the

633
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: expect both to play, but Gibson has been dealing with

634
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: this foot thing, and to see Robinson on there just

635
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: caught my eye. I don't know what their offense is

636
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna look like. It's gonna be different without Larson and

637
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: with Schweitzer in there, and then depending what happens at

638
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: right guard. UM. I know they they believe in their

639
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: play action passing. Expect them to take shots early, like

640
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: on the first drive. That's kind of a Scott Turner staple. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think if they can and they've they've been They've

642
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: been proven incapable of doing this pretty much since he

643
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: was a rookie. If they can stop Daniel Jones on

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Speaker 1: the ground, I think the Commanders could win kind of

645
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to say easily, but convincingly. I do

646
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: think they have more talent. I think the Giants are

647
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: just like in a very accelerated rebuild where nobody really

648
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: expected them to be this good this year. I do

649
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: think the Giants are really well coached and disciplined. Um.

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: But I think they can just stop DJ from picking

651
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: up those key third downs with his legs. I think

652
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: this game looks a lot different. The Commanders started down offense,

653
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: like you mentioned before, is bad, and I'd love to

654
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: credit the Giants defense for that, but it's been bad

655
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: most of the year. I think that as a result

656
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: of when they get out of kind of favorable down

657
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: at distance, early on first and second with their run game,

658
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: and then they have to lean on Taylor and he's

659
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: just you don't have the zip for a lot of

660
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: type window throws. Uh. But if they can get the

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00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: run game going and then the play action comes off that,

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Speaker 1: I think defensively they'll be ready to go. I mean,

663
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: they had a ten nothing leave and then Jones hits

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Speaker 1: that past to Slayton where people down here at least

665
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: it sure looked like the receiver extended, got some good

666
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: separation with his arms. But whatever, um, you know that

667
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: the whole game swung on that big pass. It looked

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00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: like the Commanders might kind of run away with that thing.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with JP Finley, who covers the team for

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Speaker 1: NBC Sports Washingteam. To your point, Washington stayed out of

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00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: those third and longs against the Eagles. That was a

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Speaker 1: big reason why they knocked off Philadelphia handed them their

673
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Speaker 1: loan loss in the season. You brought up Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: in the running game, JP. I'm glad you went there

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Speaker 1: because I want to piggyback off of that point. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's the most notable statistic that jumps off the page

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Speaker 1: from the Giants offensive perspective. In the first meeting, he

678
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Speaker 1: had seventy one rushing yards on twelve carries, nearly six

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Speaker 1: yards per run. And we've seen Dad, you know, Jones

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00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: have success against Washington in the past, even Philadelphia had

681
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: trouble that didn't obviously show up last week. Why has

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Speaker 1: that been an issue for the Washington defense? And what

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00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: do you think, if anything, Jack del Real could mix

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Speaker 1: up with the return of some key players, both up

685
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Speaker 1: front as well as on the back end. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to give you an answer, but if you

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00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: go back and look at Jones historically against Washington, and

688
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: he's in his fourth season now, so he's probably got yes,

689
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: seven starts against them something like that, he always performs well.

690
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: And there's some of it is true read options stuff

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Speaker 1: where you know he's making a decision and and and

692
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: playing smart, heavy football. But some of it is just

693
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: these crazy scrambles where he sees them in some sort

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00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: of man or even like a s own man look,

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: and the middle of the fields wide open, and he

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Speaker 1: takes advantage. I do think listen, he's coming back from

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00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: uh he's still technically a concussion brother Goll, but I

698
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: fully expected to play Mantes. Sweat has to play for

699
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: the Commanders if he misses this game. I really feared

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones on the edges UM. I think the Commanders

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00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: one have to play better assignment football against them, that

702
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: they really really focus on trying to slow down Sae,

703
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: Juan Barkley and the year's sake. Juan is having It's understandable,

704
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: but I think that hurts them um with with Jones

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Speaker 1: being able to keep it more often. And I think

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00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: Jamon Davis is a your manners second year linebacker and

707
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: first rounder from one and uh. He's been playing much

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00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: better over the last six weeks two months. He's starting

709
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: to really show the form. But why he was drafted

710
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: so early. He was dealing with this thumb thing that

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00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: he had surgery for over the bye week, and now

712
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: they're saying he feels much better. I don't know that

713
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: you can deploy him in a straight up spy roll

714
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: because you know, I think Jones is actually pretty good

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: over them all of the field as a passer, and

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00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: you can need Davis's cover ability, but I think in

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Speaker 1: third and and anything over like third and six, I've

718
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: been looking to have somebody just with Jones so he

719
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: can't take off. I don't know that they'll do that.

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00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: Jack is a real big believer in getting pressure with

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Speaker 1: his front four and not having to do or there

722
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: and the way John Allen and Drawn Payne or play

723
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: it's pretty effective. And then you have Montest sweat out there,

724
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: and especially if you get Chase Young out there for

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00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: some situational pass rushing. Uh it shutting. Slowing Jones down

726
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: to me is kind of the key for them to

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00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: really slow down the Giants offense. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: in the past game. I mean specifically with his legs. Sure,

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00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I think most teams would feel the same way based

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Speaker 1: on some of the troubles that they have had. It

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Speaker 1: is the second matchup in three weeks between the Giants

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Speaker 1: and the Commander. His answer, they played to a tie

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Speaker 1: in week thirteen. He's JP Finley. He covers the team

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Speaker 1: for NBC Sports Washington. You can also hear him on

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Speaker 1: one oh six point seven the fan in d C.

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Speaker 1: JP greatly appreciate the time of the insight, look forward

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Speaker 1: to this rematch as well as speaking DA down the Road.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the program. Thanks, thank you very much, guys.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. The Giants Official Connected TV streaming app.

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743
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744
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: and JP for giving us the latest on the Washington

745
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: Commander's really good stuff there, And as we do every week,

746
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Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap it up with Bob Pop's conversation with

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Speaker 1: the Head Coach or the n y g Brian Dable.

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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: The Giants take on the Washington Commanders Bob Popo along

749
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: with the head coach of the New York Giants, Brian Dable,

750
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: and our weekly spot in Coach. Obviously, Uh, things didn't

751
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: go the way you and your staff had planned last week.

752
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Washington had last week off. You're playing him again. Is

753
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: there a lot that could be changed from either side

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00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: in such a short period of time. Well, I think

755
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: that's up to each respective staff. But usually you get

756
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: this time of year, you kind of gotta feel where teams,

757
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: how teams want to play games, and um, certainly there's

758
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: new plays or coverages or potential blitzes or things like

759
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: that that can that can come up. But playing a team,

760
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, just a few weeks ago too, Right now,

761
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: you kind of know the players, they know us, you know,

762
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: they know how we play. We kind of know how

763
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: they play. So it's gonna come down to execution. Your

764
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: team has played in so many close games throughout the

765
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: course of the season, all these one possession games. Um,

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00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: you know ten of them, to be exact. Let me

767
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: ask you this, Um, after what happened last week against Philadelphia,

768
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Speaker 1: what did you have to do with your team this week,

769
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: if anything, to kind of build them back up? Yeah?

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00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: I think you do that in O T A S

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00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: in training camp. You know, you're constantly talking about dealing

772
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: with adversity or dealing with success, and you know, in

773
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: this lead get pays to be consistent. Um. It's hard

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00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: to do, but I think that if you have a

775
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: process that you believe in, that that we do. Um,

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00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: you come to work, you start over. Um on a

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00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Monday or on a Tuesday, you you flushed last week's game,

778
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: whether you win or lose, and you put your eye

779
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: on the prize, which is the opponent this week. Going

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00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: back to the meeting two weeks ago, UM, you know

781
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: they had success with the rookie running back. Uh, he

782
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: went for nineties six yards in the game. UM. That

783
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: combination that they have between Robinson and Gibson is a

784
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: potent combination. UM. Just talking about some of the challenges

785
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: of trying to slow them down and lot not let

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Speaker 1: them get on schedule. Well, I think that's the way

787
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: that that that Washington wants to play too. They want

788
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: to be physical upfront and control the game, run the ball. UM.

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Speaker 1: And then they have three skilled guys that that are

790
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: really tough to defend two and and Samuel McLaurin and

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00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the rookie. UM. So it's it's a certainly a challenge. UM.

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00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna take all eleven on defense too, to make

793
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: sure we're getting good knock back of the line of scrimmage,

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: that we're fitting our gaps, that we're making tackles. UM.

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00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: Team effort, coach. UM. Obviously your team is giving you

796
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: everything each and every week. UM. But now as we

797
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: get down to these final four games of the season,

798
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: everybody's margin of very decreases because there's not a bunch

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00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: of games on the back end to sort of make

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00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: up for it. Do you get a sense within the

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: building and around your team that there's that UM excitement

802
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: level and heightened sense of urgency. Well, I'd say our

803
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: urgency is you know, again that goes back to the consistency.

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00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: You need urgency every week in this league. There's only

805
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: seventeen of them. But certainly it's the end of the season, um,

806
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: the last quarter of it, and UM stakes are high.

807
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: You know they're high in September, but you kind of

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00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: get a feeling for how things are shaken out here

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00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: in December. So you know, our guys are are consistent

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00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: with their approach. They're certainly excited to play, but you

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: know they've been excited to play every game. Yeah, I mean,

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00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: this is all that work right in the O T

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: A s and then through the mini camps and um,

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00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: throughout training camp and and each and every week to

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00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: put yourself in this position, uh, to have an opportunity

816
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: and and and that's the exciting part, isn't it? No question? UM,

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00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: you know that's why you do all those things. As

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00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Parcels once said, so, UM, you know, we we understand that.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is an important game, and it's important

820
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: because it's a division game. It's our next game, and

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00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: you know that's where our focus needs to be. As

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00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: you look at Daniel Jones and and sort of the

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00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: way he's been playing. Um, he's handling things pretty well

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00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: despite you know, adversity with the offensive line changing and

825
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: and not being able to get the running game going consistently.

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Speaker 1: Just talk about his level of consistency and the leadership

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00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: that he's shown you through the adverse times. Yeah, I

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00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: think he's been really good. Um, he's been doing the

829
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: things we asked him to do. He makes good decisions,

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00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: He's been a steady, consistent leader for our football team.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he puts in the time and the

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00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: work ethic to to go ahead and you know, give

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00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: himself a chance and give our our team a chance.

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Speaker 1: And coach, when the final question when you have when

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00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: you have two teams that have the same record and

836
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: played as similar profiles, it does kind of come down

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00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: to like those four or five plays in a game.

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00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: For instance, in the last meeting against Washington, there were

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00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: several plays during the course of that game, especially late

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00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and even into overtime that, um,

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00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: if you execute him one way or another, that kind

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00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: of the tipping point in these games, isn't it? No question?

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00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: You know? And usually that's the way it goes. This

844
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: is a competitive league. Most games are close. You never

845
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: know when those four or five plays are gonna happen.

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00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: It could be the you know, the first drive of

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00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: the game, it could be in the fourth quarter. Um.

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00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, each play is is so critical um in

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00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: a football game, and particularly now when we're playing a

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Speaker 1: division team. Coach, best of luck and we look forward

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Speaker 1: to doing it on Christmas Stephen, Minnesota. Thanks Bob. That's

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Speaker 1: johnant Stead coach Brian Dable. We thank you for joining

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