WEBVTT - How the Pre-Draft Process Impacts Draft Stock + Exploring Player Comps That Could Explain Team Decisions 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.519 And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.640 What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.680 with you? Buck? How you doing, man, I'm good. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:11.959 DJ. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.120 It's the first time that you and I've gotten together 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.119 since the draft and all the chaos. I got to 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.200 command you on the job that you did. I didn't 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.720 get a chance to see it or hear it because 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.000 we were working simultaneously. But the feedback that I got 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.920 and the advice that you gave to one your der 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.720 Sanders was I much need it everything. After all the 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.720 conversations post draft that I've. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.800 Heard, well, I appreciate that and congrats to you. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.440 And I heard like I got some of the number 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.000 of reports for all the stuff you guys were doing, 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.360 and it was like crazy growth, man. So it's fun 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.120 to see all the different ways we kind of communicate 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.320 with the masses during during the draft and to see 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.120 just the entire thing just continue to grow and build 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.720 is is pretty cool. So I'm excited to catch up 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.440 with you in the I've got one of the things 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.640 I wanted to hit on, and we'll get to it 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.920 in just a minute. But I wanted to hit on 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.920 how and we've seen this before, how your relationship in 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.200 history with players at previous stops or years passing your 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.440 organization informs your decisions on the guys you draft because 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.200 you think you've you've coached this type of player before. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:17.800 And so I got a list of players that I 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.040 want to get your thoughts on. But we're gonna get 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.160 to that in just a minute. But first of all, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.520 it's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.880 with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage. So I mean, I look, 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.160 we'll start there. We don't need to spend a ton 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.520 of time on it. Everybody's said their piece. We both 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.040 had a chance to say our thoughts on it. But 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.520 the more time removed from the from the chador thing, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.000 the draft thing, My my biggest takeaway, Buck might be 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:40.759 this will probably be. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.200 You know, we talk about teaching tape or what have. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.400 You, but this is this is probably a reason why 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.360 agents matter, you know, why why you could say, if 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.640 you're an agent, I would I would use this as 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.080 a you know, as an example of why you should 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.480 hire an agent. And there's a reason why, Buck, that 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.240 these these training facilities make so much money where they 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.840 bring these kids in. It's not just to teach him 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.560 how to run a three cone like, I think it's 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.640 to kind of help you guide you through the process, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.640 because I think that was where things kind of fell 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:11.200 off track. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:12.560 That's how I looked at it. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.639 Okay, So before we talk about Shador, I want to 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.520 use Jackson Dart as the example. And the reason why 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.840 I want to use Jackson Dart as the example is 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.239 during Super Bowl we had an opportunity in the viewing room, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.880 Jackson Dart and his dad came through. Jackson Dart was 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:32.040 sitting up beside us. He was asking questions and really 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.880 wanted to dig into the process before I think that 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.400 was was that before the Singer Bowl, is before the 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:37.880 Senior Bowl. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.800 So whatever we were watching, we were doing Saturday games. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.840 And so he comes through, he does that, he has 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.600 all the questions, he does all of data whatever. And 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.160 I don't know if you had a chance to see 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.160 the phone call that Brian Dable and Joe Shane made 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.160 to Jackson Dart, and one of the first things they 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.480 said is like, man, you kill the process. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.000 You really crushed the process. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.480 Both guys said it individual to him about the process. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.760 And it was at that moment when I saw that 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.760 I was like, oh, that process is really everything and 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.120 maybe not even in my own navita because we've all 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.120 worked for teams or whatever, but in a different time, 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.000 that process for quarterbacks is really unique and different. And 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.359 then I went back and I had an opportunity to 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.880 see the clips from Hard Knocks last year where the 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.519 Giants kind of went through the quarterback process with Jayden Daniels, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.640 Drake May and all that, and they really gave access 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.160 to how they go about it, and Joe and that 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.120 clip talked about, Look, this process that we feel like 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.280 we've honed down has been very successful for us throughout 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.320 the years, not only with the guys that we acquired 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.200 Josh Allen when they went through the process in Buffalo, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.280 but the other guys who've killed this process, like a 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.320 Jayden Daniels, they also. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.280 Had success in the league. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.680 And so what that led me to believe is if 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.840 you're a player, and let's just say Shadur didn't prepare 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.800 to really crush this process after watching how they go 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.400 about it, there's no your way. You can fake your 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.800 way through it, Like it's not a process, Like I 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.640 want everyone to understand, this is not one where you 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.880 can go to the class, not study the test, but like, hey, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.160 I'm a wing it, it's not one that you can 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:16.960 do it. You really got to prepare. You really got 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.159 to know the ins and outs. And it's not only 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.479 about knowing your stuff, it's how do you articulate the 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.880 game to others? How do you articulate your level of 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:31.200 knowledge in those things? And amid chaos in an interview session. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.360 So if you didn't take that. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.760 Part seriously, if you didn't approach this like you and 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.600 I would say to our kids on a regular job, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.400 you go for a job interview a wear your blue suit, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.680 make sure your shoes are polish, make sure you come 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.640 in there. Have you researched a company? Do you know 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.279 who you're talking to? Have you researched them? Do you 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.880 have all of the answers to be able to like 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.280 a swat analysis test? What are my strengths? What are 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.640 my weaknesses? How am I working to make those weaknesses 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.080 my strengths? All of those things that we would tell, well, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.960 if you don't approach the NFL job interview like that, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:05.680 it'll come back and get you. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.200 And I think that's what we saw. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.920 Yeah, And I think first of all, to correct the 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.480 timeline you're correct. I'm now like going back in my head, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.159 So Senior Bowl would have been before the Super Bowl, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.839 so he had done he had been through the Senior 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.400 Bowl process. He came in, watched the Super Bowl. But 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.040 I mean he asked a bazillion questions about like when 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.120 you're meeting with teams the combine and well, you you know, 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.000 when you're going through this process, and then at the 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.080 pro day and at the workout, it's like, how you know, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.000 how do what are they looking for? What do I 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.200 need to convey? What are the things you'd think I 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.160 need to work on? Like there was some awareness there, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.880 and that's really probably the biggest thing is just the awareness. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.480 And I was going back through it, and you know, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.160 we've seen in years past, because I think people will go, oh, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.880 you know, we see all these top quarterbacks. They don't 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.479 throw at the combine or they don't do this and that, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:47.760 and they kind of choose what they want to do. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.320 I'm like, you have to know where you are, not 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.080 just in how confident you are on your ability, but 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.000 you have to know where your stock is. So cam Ward, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.880 he was viewed as the top guy, and that gap 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.520 just kept getting wider and wider, So cam Ord didn't 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.480 need to throw at the combine, cam Ward didn't need 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.400 to go to All Star games. Like cam Ward was 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.320 a made man for lack of a better phrase, But 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.919 when you look at the quarterbacks that went next, Buck 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.360 Jackson Dart Full Process Senior Bowl included Tyler Schuck, Full 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.480 Process Senior Bowl included Jalen Milroe. Full Process Senior Bowl 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:25.680 included Dylan Gabriel. Full Process Senior Bowl included Like those 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.480 guys knew that, Hey, I'm not in that tier, so 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.200 I got to do all the stuff along the way 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.120 to get me, you know, to have teams, you know, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.719 want to pick me, because there's a difference between it's 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.920 the love and the like. If teams love you, they're 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.680 going to they're not going to be as demanding of 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.960 the process. If teams like you, it is your job 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.520 to make them love you. Does that make any sense? 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:49.960 That don't know what it was. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.719 And I also think that everyone has to understand that 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.400 there is a shift that's going on international Football League, 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.919 not just with quarterbacks but with all players. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.839 And I think we heard it repeatedly. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.360 We heard it on your telecast where they talked about 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.200 guys are really going after players who really love ball, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.000 Like DJ, think about how many times in the past 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.000 we will say that, But there's a concerted effort by 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.000 teams to make sure that the guys they acquire love ball. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.720 And I'm gonna use the Jaguars as an example. One 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.400 of the things that general manager James Glasstone talked about 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.080 when he first took the job is, Hey, it's not 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.360 about us setting the culture. It's us bringing in the 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.840 players who change the culture just by being themselves. And 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.760 the way that they change the culture is they already 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.320 have these things where they want to be great, they 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.080 want to come to work, they want to do extra 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.040 all this, So DJ, what they did is people will 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.720 tell you, and I'll tell you the story about Travis Hunter. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.720 Travis Commers. Hunter comes into the facility after being selected. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.440 He goes through and does all the stuff, and then 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.520 he's looking to change clothes so he can go work 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.840 out with the team, and they're like, no, you can't 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.160 do that yet, but but that's how he was. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:02.720 And then the other thing that came out. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.960 You know this because you were at the Senior Bowl, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.280 so Jack Kaiser, I didn't notice, but evidently during the game. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.160 I switch everyone plays safety. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.040 Everybody opted out. He's an inside linebacker by trade. But 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.080 on game that he was like, oh cool, I'll go 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.720 and play safety. And there was someone else who played 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.119 on both sides or whatever. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:22.640 They drafted him and they said. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.800 We want guys who embraced all aspects of the process, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.920 even if it will put you in a position to 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.560 not look at your best, to not look like you 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.040 know what you're doing, because you love ball so much 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.480 that you're like, hey, I'll do everything. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:37.960 And he talked about last year. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.880 Was Braden fisk I played on ball, switch team, played 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:41.640 on both teams. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:42.760 Yeah, he switched teams. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.760 So and so DJ So. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.520 Now when you have all those quarterbacks like Jalen Milroe 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.079 and Tyler Shuck and Jack Dark, they're all going through 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.760 the process and all willingly doing everything, you stick out 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.200 like a sore thumb when you don't participate like that. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.080 And even though we're in the thing where everyone is 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.880 celebrating the player empowerment era, you're empowered to do whatever 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.520 you want to do. You can opt out or whatever. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.880 But I'm telling you now, it ain't like it used 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.040 to be. They're judging on that, and some of the 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.760 other guys like a Will Johnson, like Will Johnson elected. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.760 Not okay, But what they're doing is if they have 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.800 somewhere where we can complete all the boxes and tie 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.000 up all the loose ends, I'm gonna take the prospect 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.640 that I know everything about as opposed to the prospect 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:28.920 that has some unknowns. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.360 The one thing because we talked about, you know, we 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.400 tackled this subject from a lot of different areas on 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.959 TV over the three days, and you know, try and 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.880 be measured and reasonable and everything, and I try and 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.840 give people a look inside when you've been inside. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:42.960 Those buildings and what that would look like. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.600 The only thing that I that I said that I 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.040 got some that I I's see all the feedback. But 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.520 the one thing that was brought to my attention with 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.920 some negative attention off what I said was at one 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.719 point time, I said, when he had kept sliding. I said, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.599 if I were, if I were advising him, what I 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.400 would tell him was of the teams you met with. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:00.800 Now that's not all thirty two. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.280 But I would call them. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.319 I would call him and say, hey, something got miscommunicated 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.840 to this problem. I want you to know that, Like, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.320 I'm a football player, and this is my desire and passion. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.680 I'm coming there to work, Like this is not about 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.679 you know, production value or any of this other stuff 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.760 that you might associate with me, Like, I just want 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.760 an opportunity. I will compete my butt off, and I'm 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.400 gonna make us a better team. Let's start there. I'm 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:21.320 gonna earn everything. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.439 But like and then. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.360 People were like, oh, you're asking him, do you want 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.440 him to call and beg teams? And I'm like, no, no, no, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.480 that's not that's not at all what I'm saying. What 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.120 I'm saying is if I went and inter personally, if 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.200 I went interviewed for a job that I wanted and 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.720 then I heard, you know what, they didn't like some 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.199 of the things you said in the interview, I don't 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.360 think they're going to hire you. My first thing would 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.280 be like, let me call it, hey, sir, I know 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.240 in our conversation I interviewed maybe the way that didn't 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.080 come across the right way, But I want to let 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.679 you know that I'm going to work as hard as 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.360 I possibly can, like I'm the right guy for this job. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.920 That's not begging for a job, So that's that's not 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.240 lowering yourself. That's just trying to be proactive and show 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.240 a commitment to make sure that we're on the same page. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:02.199 And at the end of the day, if you want 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.000 to go somewhere else, that's fine, but I want you 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.320 to have a proper understanding of what I'm about. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.319 That's all I was saying. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.360 So a couple of things with that because I saw 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.600 that and I to me, it was sensible. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.679 It makes sense. If I want the job, go get 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:15.120 the job. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.760 Like that's one of the things like in civilian life, 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.800 if you want a job doing that interview, it's important 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.440 for you to convey to the person interviewing you, I 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.200 want this job, and if I get this job, here's 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.560 how I'm gonna perform in that job. And it's a 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:35.400 way to not only display confidence but also humility and saying, hey, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.680 I'm about the team, I'm this and that. That's also 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.880 where lack of representation heard them, because representation, that's a 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:43.720 person who could. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.920 Be having that conversation like, hey, I talked to this 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.720 team and they said that you said answered this question 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.679 this way, and that rubbed them the wrong way. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.400 Like, well, we need to go let's we need you 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:53.400 guys on the phone together. 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.120 Yeah, we need to go clean it up. We need 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.400 to get on the zoom. We need to make sure 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.040 that everyone clearly understands. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:11:59.360 That part of it. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.160 The other thing that I did on DJ because then 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.600 people talked about the fall and the slide and all 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.400 of that stuff, But I was trying to let people 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.040 know in the draft, what happens is you have the 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:11.360 vertical board, you. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.160 Have the horizontal board. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.840 Horizontal board is the positions and order what happens DJ. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.720 If we are a team that doesn't need. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.079 A quarterback, even though Shuder is there, that doesn't change 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.880 our process. And I know we can talk about best 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.360 player available, but best player available is a thing that 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.160 we use as we're checking off needs in those things, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.440 it's just not a we're going willy nilly and just 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.080 taking random players at the top of the board that 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.520 don't necessarily job And particularly when you're the first three rounds, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.480 the guys that you take in the first three. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.439 Rounds of guys that we're projecting the starters. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.800 So if I don't have an immediate need at quarterback, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.480 we can acknowledge that a player is worthy of doing that, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.160 but we're not seriously entertaining or considering that there's a 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.800 level of the draft where we get to then now 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.360 we'll begin to consider. Okay, look, we don't have the need, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.319 but this guy was rated as the second round player. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.120 He's in the fifth round. Let's take him just from 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.200 a value standpoint, which is what I believe the Browns 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.640 got to. But I'm gonna say this, it's really sticky 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.760 in the Browns quarterback room just because of the pecking order. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.480 So when you take Dylan Gabril in the third round, DJA, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.000 your third round pick is on the team. So we 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.040 can sit here and talk about it's an open competition, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.000 but your third round pick is on the team. So 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.160 now this competition is because it's your version during pick 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.600 a kit, that's the competition. 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.199 So that's what it is. I think we've exhausted. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.960 We've talked about this a lot, and I would rather 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.560 like not being disrespectful to I'd rather talk about some 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.000 of the other guys had an opportunity to do their. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:47.959 Thing, because that's what I mean. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.360 I felt like the telecasts became all about Sanders, and 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.840 we just want to make sure that others get love 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.400 for their opportunities to go. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.240 And you know the subject manager that your product. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.760 Yeah, yep, that was this week's Hotter segment brought to 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.600 you by with Sabi hot Cloud storage, Store more and 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.040 do more with your data. Try them for free at 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.360 wassabi dot com. All right, Buck, let's take Let's take 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.120 just a quick pause and we'll come back because I've 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:12.960 got I got some names. I'm run by you, and 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.040 i want to get your thoughts on the comparisons with 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.040 coaches or general managers that they had a previous player 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.880 that might have informed their decision. So we'll get to 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:29.160 that list right after this. All right, Buck, First up, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:33.440 this one is an easy one. H Pete Carroll Ashton 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:38.360 Genty stylistically Marshawn Lynch like he appreciates that style and 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:39.360 that brand of runner. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.760 Absolutely absolutely, look DJ It's one of those things that 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.240 was the easiest one to mock when you're going through the. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.920 Mock and you're like raiders Aston Genty could be there. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.160 Would he do it? Yes? Why? 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.800 Because displayer gives him what he's always wanted, a workhorse 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.480 runner who can do all the grimy stuff. But also 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.000 as a fact in the passing game, and for people 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:07.040 who really haven't been reminded of how good Marshawn Lynch was, 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.440 it wasn't just beastmode running. There was a time there 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.400 did whenever they needed a go to play in the 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.520 passing game, the. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.480 Ball went to Marshawn Lynz. Like that's how good he was. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.520 He was so good out of the backfield first coming 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.160 out of Caw and then he goes into the league 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:23.960 and then when he gets to Seattle, Man, they really 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.800 tapped into that. To me, I believe Pete Carroll is 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.800 kind of recreating some of that offense that he previously 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.360 had in Seattle to have the Raiders get back on 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.320 track and close the gap on the competitors. Asking Gensy 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.400 is the workhorse, the lynch pin to that offense being 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:41.720 able to kind of play that stole. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.080 Yeah, and they're going to be able to finish games 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.640 with him too. I mean, think about all those games 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.720 that Marshawn Lynch is kind of put away. You know, Hey, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.560 they got a good defense. You know they've got a 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.320 good front. I should say they have some other pieces 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.480 they need to fill in, but they hey, if we 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.320 can get out to a lead, he can salt the 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.520 game away here and Pete Carroll's always appreciate having somebody 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.440 like that. All right, next one, there's two teams that 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:09.440 hit this one. So I'm gonna go with the Chicago Bears, okay, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.240 and then I'm gonna come back with the New York Jets. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.800 They took Colston Loveland in Chicago, and they took Mason Taylor. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:22.480 With the Jets, you had head coach for Chicago, Ben Johnson, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.600 who came from Detroit with Sam Laporta head coach New 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.680 York Jets. You had Aaron Glenn who came from Detroit 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.560 with Sam Laporta. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.480 I think Sam. 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.480 Laporta helped place both those guys in those teams because 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.080 I think you look at Loveland, you look at Mason Taylor, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.600 you know, size, speed, stylistically. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.480 There's a lot of similarities to a guy like Sam Laporta. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.480 That was the first thing that came up to me 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.720 when I saw Loveland go over top of Tyler Warren. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.640 I was like Ben Johnson was doing his evaluations and 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.080 he was like, Man Lovelan reminds me a lot of 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.640 Sam Report. I could do a lot of the same 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.960 things I did with the Porter with him, and I'm 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.120 being honest, Djay, I felt like he did the same 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.600 thing with Luther Burton. I feel like Luther Burdon was 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.880 a bit of a I've seen big I felt like 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.000 he said, Oh, I can recreate the offense that I 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:06.600 just had. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.280 I got all of these guys. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.639 I got an alpha dog competitor and slave receiver in Burden, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.960 and then I have Lovelin who can do all this stuff. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.400 With Sam on the porter, I can set my quarterback 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.880 up success without really having to deviate too far from 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.520 the system and the scheme and the way that I 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.000 want to play by now getting the personnel that I'm 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.360 very familiar with and comfortable with from my time in Detroit. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.720 And then last one for those teams, let's go Aaron 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.520 Glenn New York Jets. They decided with their first pick 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.960 to take a big, physical, run blocking right tackle who 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.560 isn't completely as polished in the past game. But we're 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.800 going to dominate physically and we're going to develop more 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.160 as a pass protector. That remind you of anybody from Detroit. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.520 Oh, maybe let's see Pa. So maybe maybe we'll take 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:49.720