1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: with you? Buck? How you doing, man, I'm good. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 3: DJ. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 4: It's the first time that you and I've gotten together 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 4: since the draft and all the chaos. I got to 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 4: command you on the job that you did. I didn't 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 4: get a chance to see it or hear it because 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 4: we were working simultaneously. But the feedback that I got 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: and the advice that you gave to one your der 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: Sanders was I much need it everything. After all the 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: conversations post draft that I've. 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Heard, well, I appreciate that and congrats to you. 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: And I heard like I got some of the number 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: of reports for all the stuff you guys were doing, 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: and it was like crazy growth, man. So it's fun 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: to see all the different ways we kind of communicate 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: with the masses during during the draft and to see 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: just the entire thing just continue to grow and build 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: is is pretty cool. So I'm excited to catch up 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: with you in the I've got one of the things 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to hit on, and we'll get to it 23 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: in just a minute. But I wanted to hit on 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: how and we've seen this before, how your relationship in 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: history with players at previous stops or years passing your 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: organization informs your decisions on the guys you draft because 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: you think you've you've coached this type of player before. 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: And so I got a list of players that I 29 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on. But we're gonna get 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: to that in just a minute. But first of all, 31 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: it's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage. So I mean, I look, 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: we'll start there. We don't need to spend a ton 34 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: of time on it. Everybody's said their piece. We both 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to say our thoughts on it. But 36 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: the more time removed from the from the chador thing, 37 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: the draft thing, My my biggest takeaway, Buck might be 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: this will probably be. 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about teaching tape or what have. 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: You, but this is this is probably a reason why 41 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: agents matter, you know, why why you could say, if 42 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: you're an agent, I would I would use this as 43 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: a you know, as an example of why you should 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: hire an agent. And there's a reason why, Buck, that 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: these these training facilities make so much money where they 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: bring these kids in. It's not just to teach him 47 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: how to run a three cone like, I think it's 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: to kind of help you guide you through the process, 49 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: because I think that was where things kind of fell 50 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: off track. 51 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: That's how I looked at it. 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: Okay, So before we talk about Shador, I want to 53 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: use Jackson Dart as the example. And the reason why 54 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: I want to use Jackson Dart as the example is 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: during Super Bowl we had an opportunity in the viewing room, 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: Jackson Dart and his dad came through. Jackson Dart was 57 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: sitting up beside us. He was asking questions and really 58 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: wanted to dig into the process before I think that 59 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: was was that before the Singer Bowl, is before the 60 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. 61 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: So whatever we were watching, we were doing Saturday games. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: And so he comes through, he does that, he has 63 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: all the questions, he does all of data whatever. And 64 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if you had a chance to see 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: the phone call that Brian Dable and Joe Shane made 66 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: to Jackson Dart, and one of the first things they 67 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: said is like, man, you kill the process. 68 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: You really crushed the process. 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: Both guys said it individual to him about the process. 70 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: And it was at that moment when I saw that 71 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that process is really everything and 72 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: maybe not even in my own navita because we've all 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: worked for teams or whatever, but in a different time, 74 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: that process for quarterbacks is really unique and different. And 75 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 4: then I went back and I had an opportunity to 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: see the clips from Hard Knocks last year where the 77 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: Giants kind of went through the quarterback process with Jayden Daniels, 78 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: Drake May and all that, and they really gave access 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: to how they go about it, and Joe and that 80 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: clip talked about, Look, this process that we feel like 81 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: we've honed down has been very successful for us throughout 82 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: the years, not only with the guys that we acquired 83 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: Josh Allen when they went through the process in Buffalo, 84 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: but the other guys who've killed this process, like a 85 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels, they also. 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: Had success in the league. 87 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: And so what that led me to believe is if 88 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: you're a player, and let's just say Shadur didn't prepare 89 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: to really crush this process after watching how they go 90 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: about it, there's no your way. You can fake your 91 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: way through it, Like it's not a process, Like I 92 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: want everyone to understand, this is not one where you 93 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: can go to the class, not study the test, but like, hey, 94 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: I'm a wing it, it's not one that you can 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: do it. You really got to prepare. You really got 96 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: to know the ins and outs. And it's not only 97 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: about knowing your stuff, it's how do you articulate the 98 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: game to others? How do you articulate your level of 99 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: knowledge in those things? And amid chaos in an interview session. 100 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: So if you didn't take that. 101 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: Part seriously, if you didn't approach this like you and 102 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: I would say to our kids on a regular job, 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: you go for a job interview a wear your blue suit, 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: make sure your shoes are polish, make sure you come 105 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: in there. Have you researched a company? Do you know 106 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: who you're talking to? Have you researched them? Do you 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: have all of the answers to be able to like 108 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 4: a swat analysis test? What are my strengths? What are 109 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: my weaknesses? How am I working to make those weaknesses 110 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 4: my strengths? All of those things that we would tell, well, 111 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: if you don't approach the NFL job interview like that, 112 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: it'll come back and get you. 113 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's what we saw. 114 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think first of all, to correct the 115 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: timeline you're correct. I'm now like going back in my head, 116 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: So Senior Bowl would have been before the Super Bowl, 117 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: so he had done he had been through the Senior 118 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Bowl process. He came in, watched the Super Bowl. But 119 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean he asked a bazillion questions about like when 120 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: you're meeting with teams the combine and well, you you know, 121 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: when you're going through this process, and then at the 122 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: pro day and at the workout, it's like, how you know, 123 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: how do what are they looking for? What do I 124 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: need to convey? What are the things you'd think I 125 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: need to work on? Like there was some awareness there, 126 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: and that's really probably the biggest thing is just the awareness. 127 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: And I was going back through it, and you know, 128 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: we've seen in years past, because I think people will go, oh, 129 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, we see all these top quarterbacks. They don't 130 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: throw at the combine or they don't do this and that, 131 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: and they kind of choose what they want to do. 132 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to know where you are, not 133 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: just in how confident you are on your ability, but 134 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: you have to know where your stock is. So cam Ward, 135 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: he was viewed as the top guy, and that gap 136 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: just kept getting wider and wider, So cam Ord didn't 137 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: need to throw at the combine, cam Ward didn't need 138 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: to go to All Star games. Like cam Ward was 139 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: a made man for lack of a better phrase, But 140 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: when you look at the quarterbacks that went next, Buck 141 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart Full Process Senior Bowl included Tyler Schuck, Full 142 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Process Senior Bowl included Jalen Milroe. Full Process Senior Bowl 143 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: included Dylan Gabriel. Full Process Senior Bowl included Like those 144 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: guys knew that, Hey, I'm not in that tier, so 145 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I got to do all the stuff along the way 146 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: to get me, you know, to have teams, you know, 147 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: want to pick me, because there's a difference between it's 148 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: the love and the like. If teams love you, they're 149 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: going to they're not going to be as demanding of 150 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: the process. If teams like you, it is your job 151 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to make them love you. Does that make any sense? 152 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: That don't know what it was. 153 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: And I also think that everyone has to understand that 154 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: there is a shift that's going on international Football League, 155 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 4: not just with quarterbacks but with all players. 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: And I think we heard it repeatedly. 157 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: We heard it on your telecast where they talked about 158 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: guys are really going after players who really love ball, 159 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: Like DJ, think about how many times in the past 160 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: we will say that, But there's a concerted effort by 161 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: teams to make sure that the guys they acquire love ball. 162 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna use the Jaguars as an example. One 163 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: of the things that general manager James Glasstone talked about 164 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: when he first took the job is, Hey, it's not 165 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: about us setting the culture. It's us bringing in the 166 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: players who change the culture just by being themselves. And 167 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: the way that they change the culture is they already 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: have these things where they want to be great, they 169 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: want to come to work, they want to do extra 170 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: all this, So DJ, what they did is people will 171 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: tell you, and I'll tell you the story about Travis Hunter. 172 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: Travis Commers. Hunter comes into the facility after being selected. 173 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: He goes through and does all the stuff, and then 174 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: he's looking to change clothes so he can go work 175 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: out with the team, and they're like, no, you can't 176 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: do that yet, but but that's how he was. 177 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: And then the other thing that came out. 178 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: You know this because you were at the Senior Bowl, 179 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: so Jack Kaiser, I didn't notice, but evidently during the game. 180 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: I switch everyone plays safety. 181 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: Everybody opted out. He's an inside linebacker by trade. But 182 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: on game that he was like, oh cool, I'll go 183 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: and play safety. And there was someone else who played 184 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 4: on both sides or whatever. 185 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: They drafted him and they said. 186 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: We want guys who embraced all aspects of the process, 187 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: even if it will put you in a position to 188 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: not look at your best, to not look like you 189 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: know what you're doing, because you love ball so much 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: that you're like, hey, I'll do everything. 191 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: And he talked about last year. 192 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: Was Braden fisk I played on ball, switch team, played 193 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: on both teams. 194 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he switched teams. 195 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: So and so DJ So. 196 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: Now when you have all those quarterbacks like Jalen Milroe 197 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 4: and Tyler Shuck and Jack Dark, they're all going through 198 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: the process and all willingly doing everything, you stick out 199 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: like a sore thumb when you don't participate like that. 200 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: And even though we're in the thing where everyone is 201 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: celebrating the player empowerment era, you're empowered to do whatever 202 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: you want to do. You can opt out or whatever. 203 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: But I'm telling you now, it ain't like it used 204 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: to be. They're judging on that, and some of the 205 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: other guys like a Will Johnson, like Will Johnson elected. 206 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: Not okay, But what they're doing is if they have 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: somewhere where we can complete all the boxes and tie 208 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: up all the loose ends, I'm gonna take the prospect 209 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: that I know everything about as opposed to the prospect 210 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: that has some unknowns. 211 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: The one thing because we talked about, you know, we 212 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: tackled this subject from a lot of different areas on 213 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: TV over the three days, and you know, try and 214 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: be measured and reasonable and everything, and I try and 215 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: give people a look inside when you've been inside. 216 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: Those buildings and what that would look like. 217 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: The only thing that I that I said that I 218 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: got some that I I's see all the feedback. But 219 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: the one thing that was brought to my attention with 220 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: some negative attention off what I said was at one 221 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: point time, I said, when he had kept sliding. I said, 222 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: if I were, if I were advising him, what I 223 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: would tell him was of the teams you met with. 224 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Now that's not all thirty two. 225 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: But I would call them. 226 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: I would call him and say, hey, something got miscommunicated 227 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: to this problem. I want you to know that, Like, 228 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm a football player, and this is my desire and passion. 229 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm coming there to work, Like this is not about 230 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: you know, production value or any of this other stuff 231 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: that you might associate with me, Like, I just want 232 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity. I will compete my butt off, and I'm 233 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: gonna make us a better team. Let's start there. I'm 234 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna earn everything. 235 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: But like and then. 236 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: People were like, oh, you're asking him, do you want 237 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: him to call and beg teams? And I'm like, no, no, no, 238 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: that's not that's not at all what I'm saying. What 239 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying is if I went and inter personally, if 240 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: I went interviewed for a job that I wanted and 241 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: then I heard, you know what, they didn't like some 242 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: of the things you said in the interview, I don't 243 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: think they're going to hire you. My first thing would 244 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: be like, let me call it, hey, sir, I know 245 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: in our conversation I interviewed maybe the way that didn't 246 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: come across the right way, But I want to let 247 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: you know that I'm going to work as hard as 248 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I possibly can, like I'm the right guy for this job. 249 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: That's not begging for a job, So that's that's not 250 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: lowering yourself. That's just trying to be proactive and show 251 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: a commitment to make sure that we're on the same page. 252 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, if you want 253 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, that's fine, but I want you 254 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: to have a proper understanding of what I'm about. 255 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: That's all I was saying. 256 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: So a couple of things with that because I saw 257 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: that and I to me, it was sensible. 258 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: It makes sense. If I want the job, go get 259 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: the job. 260 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: Like that's one of the things like in civilian life, 261 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: if you want a job doing that interview, it's important 262 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: for you to convey to the person interviewing you, I 263 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 4: want this job, and if I get this job, here's 264 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: how I'm gonna perform in that job. And it's a 265 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: way to not only display confidence but also humility and saying, hey, 266 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: I'm about the team, I'm this and that. That's also 267 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: where lack of representation heard them, because representation, that's a 268 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: person who could. 269 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: Be having that conversation like, hey, I talked to this 270 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: team and they said that you said answered this question 271 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: this way, and that rubbed them the wrong way. 272 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: Like, well, we need to go let's we need you 273 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: guys on the phone together. 274 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to go clean it up. We need 275 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: to get on the zoom. We need to make sure 276 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: that everyone clearly understands. 277 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: That part of it. 278 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: The other thing that I did on DJ because then 279 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: people talked about the fall and the slide and all 280 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: of that stuff, But I was trying to let people 281 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: know in the draft, what happens is you have the 282 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: vertical board, you. 283 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: Have the horizontal board. 284 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: Horizontal board is the positions and order what happens DJ. 285 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: If we are a team that doesn't need. 286 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 4: A quarterback, even though Shuder is there, that doesn't change 287 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: our process. And I know we can talk about best 288 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: player available, but best player available is a thing that 289 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: we use as we're checking off needs in those things, 290 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: it's just not a we're going willy nilly and just 291 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: taking random players at the top of the board that 292 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: don't necessarily job And particularly when you're the first three rounds, 293 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: the guys that you take in the first three. 294 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: Rounds of guys that we're projecting the starters. 295 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: So if I don't have an immediate need at quarterback, 296 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: we can acknowledge that a player is worthy of doing that, 297 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: but we're not seriously entertaining or considering that there's a 298 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: level of the draft where we get to then now 299 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: we'll begin to consider. Okay, look, we don't have the need, 300 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 4: but this guy was rated as the second round player. 301 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: He's in the fifth round. Let's take him just from 302 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: a value standpoint, which is what I believe the Browns 303 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: got to. But I'm gonna say this, it's really sticky 304 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: in the Browns quarterback room just because of the pecking order. 305 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: So when you take Dylan Gabril in the third round, DJA, 306 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: your third round pick is on the team. So we 307 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: can sit here and talk about it's an open competition, 308 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 4: but your third round pick is on the team. So 309 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: now this competition is because it's your version during pick 310 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: a kit, that's the competition. 311 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: So that's what it is. I think we've exhausted. 312 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: We've talked about this a lot, and I would rather 313 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 4: like not being disrespectful to I'd rather talk about some 314 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: of the other guys had an opportunity to do their. 315 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 3: Thing, because that's what I mean. 316 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: I felt like the telecasts became all about Sanders, and 317 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: we just want to make sure that others get love 318 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: for their opportunities to go. 319 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: And you know the subject manager that your product. 320 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, that was this week's Hotter segment brought to 321 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: you by with Sabi hot Cloud storage, Store more and 322 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: do more with your data. Try them for free at 323 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: wassabi dot com. All right, Buck, let's take Let's take 324 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: just a quick pause and we'll come back because I've 325 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: got I got some names. I'm run by you, and 326 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: i want to get your thoughts on the comparisons with 327 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: coaches or general managers that they had a previous player 328 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: that might have informed their decision. So we'll get to 329 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: that list right after this. All right, Buck, First up, 330 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: this one is an easy one. H Pete Carroll Ashton 331 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Genty stylistically Marshawn Lynch like he appreciates that style and 332 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: that brand of runner. 333 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, look DJ It's one of those things that 334 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: was the easiest one to mock when you're going through the. 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: Mock and you're like raiders Aston Genty could be there. 336 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: Would he do it? Yes? Why? 337 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: Because displayer gives him what he's always wanted, a workhorse 338 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: runner who can do all the grimy stuff. But also 339 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: as a fact in the passing game, and for people 340 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: who really haven't been reminded of how good Marshawn Lynch was, 341 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: it wasn't just beastmode running. There was a time there 342 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: did whenever they needed a go to play in the 343 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: passing game, the. 344 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: Ball went to Marshawn Lynz. Like that's how good he was. 345 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: He was so good out of the backfield first coming 346 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: out of Caw and then he goes into the league 347 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: and then when he gets to Seattle, Man, they really 348 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 4: tapped into that. To me, I believe Pete Carroll is 349 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: kind of recreating some of that offense that he previously 350 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: had in Seattle to have the Raiders get back on 351 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: track and close the gap on the competitors. Asking Gensy 352 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 4: is the workhorse, the lynch pin to that offense being 353 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 4: able to kind of play that stole. 354 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're going to be able to finish games 355 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: with him too. I mean, think about all those games 356 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: that Marshawn Lynch is kind of put away. You know, Hey, 357 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: they got a good defense. You know they've got a 358 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: good front. I should say they have some other pieces 359 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: they need to fill in, but they hey, if we 360 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: can get out to a lead, he can salt the 361 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: game away here and Pete Carroll's always appreciate having somebody 362 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: like that. All right, next one, there's two teams that 363 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: hit this one. So I'm gonna go with the Chicago Bears, okay, 364 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna come back with the New York Jets. 365 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: They took Colston Loveland in Chicago, and they took Mason Taylor. 366 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: With the Jets, you had head coach for Chicago, Ben Johnson, 367 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: who came from Detroit with Sam Laporta head coach New 368 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: York Jets. You had Aaron Glenn who came from Detroit 369 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: with Sam Laporta. 370 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: I think Sam. 371 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Laporta helped place both those guys in those teams because 372 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I think you look at Loveland, you look at Mason Taylor, 373 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, size, speed, stylistically. 374 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot of similarities to a guy like Sam Laporta. 375 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: That was the first thing that came up to me 376 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: when I saw Loveland go over top of Tyler Warren. 377 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: I was like Ben Johnson was doing his evaluations and 378 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: he was like, Man Lovelan reminds me a lot of 379 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: Sam Report. I could do a lot of the same 380 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: things I did with the Porter with him, and I'm 381 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: being honest, Djay, I felt like he did the same 382 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: thing with Luther Burton. I feel like Luther Burdon was 383 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: a bit of a I've seen big I felt like 384 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: he said, Oh, I can recreate the offense that I 385 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: just had. 386 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: I got all of these guys. 387 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 4: I got an alpha dog competitor and slave receiver in Burden, 388 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: and then I have Lovelin who can do all this stuff. 389 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: With Sam on the porter, I can set my quarterback 390 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: up success without really having to deviate too far from 391 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: the system and the scheme and the way that I 392 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: want to play by now getting the personnel that I'm 393 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 4: very familiar with and comfortable with from my time in Detroit. 394 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: And then last one for those teams, let's go Aaron 395 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Glenn New York Jets. They decided with their first pick 396 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: to take a big, physical, run blocking right tackle who 397 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: isn't completely as polished in the past game. But we're 398 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: going to dominate physically and we're going to develop more 399 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: as a pass protector. That remind you of anybody from Detroit. 400 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: Oh, maybe let's see Pa. So maybe maybe we'll take 401 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: a big dude. 402 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: That anchor that offensive line and to give us what 403 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: it is that we want to have in terms of 404 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: as a team, we want to be a physical team. 405 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: We eventually want to run the ball, we want to 406 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: protect the quarterback and all those things. 407 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: Man. 408 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because the conversation on Membu DJ, 409 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: I was getting feedback from some people like, man, I 410 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: don't think he's a great I'm not in love. 411 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: With him, from so many people in the business. 412 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I don't get that. 413 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: I was like, I definitely don't see that. Like I 414 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: see a really good play here, who can do. 415 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: A lot, and I think the Jets certainly saw that, 416 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: and man, having him anchor it down talking about a 417 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 4: right tackle that can really get physical and establish it 418 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: at the point of attack, it certainly works. 419 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: For them, and it worked for Detroit for a long time. 420 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: Yep, this one I don't see. I don't agree with 421 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: this comparison quite as much, but I understand what the 422 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: goal is here, and that's what Ted McMillan and Mike Evans, 423 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, trying to draw the connection with Dave Canalis 424 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: coming from Tampa. 425 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 426 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: So it's funny that you wrote it up because I 427 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: feel like the Tampa situation impacted two teams. 428 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: It impacted the Carolina Panthers, with Ted. 429 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: McMillan being the Mike Evans type basically recreating it right. 430 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 4: So I could see Dave Canal is looking at and Okay, 431 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: I got Tevic Millan over here. He is Mike Evans. 432 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: I have Xavier Laguette over here. He's going to be 433 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: my Chris Gottwin type. I got two big bodied playmakers 434 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: that are going to expand the strike. 435 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: Zone for Bryce Young. 436 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 4: I also believe down in Tampa a mecha Abuka gives 437 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: them what they had. He's like, oh, I got someone 438 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: that can be an easy replacement for either one of 439 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: these guys, presumably Mike Evans if he doesn't resign after 440 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: next year. They now have two big guys that they 441 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: can play with that they've always kind of operated with 442 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 4: that has really helped Baker Mayfield. 443 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: So I do believe you're right. 444 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: Everyone kind of has a blueprint that they prefer to follow, 445 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: and that blueprint is established along the way, either with 446 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: the player that they've come in contact with or being 447 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: in an organization. 448 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: And you had a lot of success operating a certain way. 449 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Mm how about this one? Emon Wari got picked in 450 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Seattle and everybody was doing the oh they got the 451 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: new cam Chancellor, And I'm sitting here going, oh, no, 452 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald came from Baltimore and he's got is Kyle 453 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: Hamilton Like that's he knows how to use that big 454 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: player in that role and it's so good. He's a 455 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of a faster version of Kyle Hamilton. 456 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: Means such such a good like such a good fit, 457 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: such a good pick. 458 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: Not only that, because you're talking about em and worry 459 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: like kind of dropping in there, but how about John 460 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: Snyder and those guys looking and seeing a bigger, faster 461 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: Cam Chancellor and being like, oh, you know, it kind 462 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: of reminds me of we've had success in this model 463 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: using this kind of player. Yeah, DJ it works, I believe, 464 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: And I know people hate when we do the comparison things, 465 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 4: but I'm telling you every coach it does this. 466 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: This guy reminds me of this. This is what I'm 467 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: gonna do with him if he comes in. He's that. 468 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: And when we are presenting a. 469 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: Player to the coach and said hey, coach, he kind 470 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 4: of reminds us of the coach immediately said, oh, okay, 471 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: this is a game plan for how we use a 472 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 4: player that has that. 473 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: This is what we did with him. We'll do the 474 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: same things and it'll work. For him as well. 475 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: All right, this one was a fun one. Me Sean 476 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: Payton goes and gets R. J. Harvey, which is his 477 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Darren Sproles. 478 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Darren spos had a lot of success for 479 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: the Saints. 480 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he was a very impactful player, and he 481 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 4: was part of a deep rotation they would mixing in. 482 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 4: You couldn't cover him out the backfield. He was so 483 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 4: explosive also in the run in return game and all 484 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: that other stuff. He did a lot for them. Very 485 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: underrated are his contributions to what that team was able 486 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: to do down in New Orleans? 487 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: All right, I'm not saying these are that this player 488 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: is as good as these players, but this is what 489 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I was told. 490 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: And I knew that. 491 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: I knew the Cowboys were on the interior offensive lineman, 492 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: so I knew. I thought there was a chance it 493 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: could be a trade back and take Gray Zabel or 494 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: Tyler Booker. They ended up, you know, kind of getting 495 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: stuck there and then it has taken Booker. But what 496 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: was told to me after the fact was in their 497 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: meetings and in their conversations, it was like we've always 498 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: had elite guards when we've had good teams like there's 499 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: the era, the Larry Allen era, then there was the 500 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: Zach Martin era where they want a lot of football games. 501 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: So they understand the importance in their building of having 502 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: valuable resources dedicated to the guard position. And so that's 503 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: why they were comfortable when they got stuck and couldn't 504 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: get out, saying, well, maybe not as much value around 505 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: the league here, but for us, there's tremendous value to 506 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: invest in this position. 507 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: I'll even go deeper than that. I will say that. 508 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: So Brian Schottenheimer is the son of Marty Schottenheimer. When 509 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: we were all in Kansas City, Will Shields was at 510 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: one guard, Tim Grunnett was at another guard in Dave's eye, 511 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 4: and so Marty was standing in front of the room 512 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: and say, it doesn't matter who we haven't running back. 513 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: As long as we have this interior three, we can 514 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: dominate anybody. And when I'm looking at the Cowboys and 515 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: what they're creating, DJ, they're creating dominant interior three where 516 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: they can just run the ball at whomever. And we 517 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: always talk about build your team to win your division. 518 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 4: Jalen Carter plays where three technique, Oh, you better have 519 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: some people that are okay, making. 520 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: This a bit of a street fight at the point 521 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: of attack in the middle. 522 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: Now, I'm sure they've seen each other over the years too. 523 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia games going back. I can't wait to see 524 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: that one. That's gonna be fun. Last one again, not 525 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: comparing to the Hall of Famer, but Malachi Starks ed 526 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: reed just in terms of the body type, fluid, smooth 527 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: movers who are incredibly football smart. So I think that's 528 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: kind of the I think that helped inform the Ravens 529 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: love for a guy like Malachi Starks. 530 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: I'm all on board on that, DJ because the thing 531 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: did I think about is I think. 532 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: About his IQ. 533 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: And during the process we talked about Malachay Starks and 534 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: all the IQ stuff and what he did to me 535 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 4: that's what it is. 536 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: It's the high IQ stuff that would allow him to. 537 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: Play as a nice playmate to Cale Hamilton, to make 538 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 4: a nun plays in the middle of the field. 539 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: All right, last last thing here. That's it for those 540 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: comps here and I'll hit you on one more thing 541 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: and then we're going to uh, We're going to bounce 542 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: out of here. But we talked so much about the 543 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: edge and the DTS So I'm gonna go through. 544 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go through. 545 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: The top five to six, five or six guys at 546 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: each position, and just tell me the value slash fit 547 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: that you love the best. Okay, because we talked about 548 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: this strength of this draft being the d lineman. So 549 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: the DTS Mason Graham he goes five to the Cleveland Browns, 550 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Kenneth Grant earlier than a lot of people thought, thirteen 551 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins, Walter Nolan at Ole mess at 552 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: d tackle he goes sixteen to the Cardinals, Derek Harmon 553 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: goes twenty one to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then Tyler 554 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: Williams he goes twenty eight to the Detroit Lions from 555 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State. So which one of those to me you 556 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: like the best in terms of the fit value, all 557 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: that good stuff. 558 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: Well, honestly, I love Mason Graham, but I'm gonna say 559 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 4: Walton Nolan, and I'm gonna say dj that I the 560 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: more that I looked at Walton Noland late, the more 561 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: I liked him, and what the Arizona Cardinals are doing 562 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: in terms of being able to put him on the inside, 563 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: and look they went with all pretty much all big 564 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: ten draft right, get a bunch of. 565 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: Gifts from the big ten and they invest in it. 566 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: But Walton Nolan is a guy that is the outliery 567 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: because it comes from the SEC. But look, man, you 568 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: talk about a guy that was the former number one 569 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: recruit in high school. He bounces around, but then at 570 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: old mess Man, you see the flashes of dominance, and 571 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: I just believe man, in the right system, the right environment, 572 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: he is going to be a dominant player at the 573 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: point of attack. 574 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: So to me, I love that pick. I love that fit. 575 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: All right, that's a good one. 576 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to actually go Derek Harmon with the Pittsburgh 577 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Steelers and we had Mike Tomlin on. 578 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 3: Uh. 579 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you got a chance to see this. 580 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: So this was the question I asked, and I didn't 581 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: mention the stat but you know, they lost to Baltimore 582 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Baltimore rushed for two hundred and ninety 583 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: nine yards in that game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And 584 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I said, defense, the pride you have in that unit, 585 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: I said, when you walked off the field, like, how 586 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: long before you started thinking about what you needed to 587 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: do to revamp this defense? So that something like that 588 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: would never happen again, and Tomlin just looked straight into 589 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: the camera and said before I got in the shower, 590 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: I was. 591 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: Like, I'm telling you, man, there's pride there. So what 592 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: do you do. You got to get Derek Harmon, who 593 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: can be a dominant player against the run. You go 594 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: out and get Jack Sawyer, who is a rugged edgsetter. 595 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: Think about that. 596 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: I was looking at their depth, jart Buck. They're going 597 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: to run out there with t J. Watt and high 598 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: Smith as their starters. Right now, They've got Herbig and 599 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer. That's the three and a four edge rushers. 600 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: Like that is they're gonna be able to roll those 601 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: guys through, keep everybody fresh. But then y a black 602 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: out out of Iowa who's massive, like they they didn't 603 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: like that very much the way that went down last year, 604 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: and they've kind of rebuilt, refortified and got younger across 605 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: their front. 606 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: So I like that value. I like that fel Derrek 607 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Carmon's a really, really good player. 608 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: Look, and we talked about him as we were running 609 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: up to the draft, about how good he is and 610 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: how impactful he could be at the point of attack, 611 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: and the thing that I love about the Steelers is 612 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 4: not only taking. 613 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: Like a Derek Carmon, right. 614 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 4: I feel like these teams that traditionally draft well, they 615 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: have a clear understanding of their brand. So dj they 616 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: get him at a point of attack, He's down to 617 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: play anything. Come and get Jackson, like man, I should 618 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: have known that they would get jack Do they not 619 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: take every former Ohio State outside linebacker defensive manlight? 620 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: They always do it because it always. 621 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: Fits what they want to do. And look, Man, Harmon 622 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: is a good player. I love the effort and energy. 623 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: He has a toughness to him that certainly fits how 624 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 4: they want to play. 625 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: Man, it's funny that you said. 626 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 4: Tom that said that, because I think you know, you know, 627 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, especially the way Baltimore 628 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: pat hands on him. 629 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it's not good enough. 630 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the edge, guys. Here, abdul Carter, 631 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: he goes three to the Giants. Mike L Williams goes 632 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: eleven to the San Franco forty nine ers, which, by 633 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: the way, the Niners took a bunch of run stoppers, 634 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: which is kind of fascinating because we think about them 635 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: as like, you know, wide nine attack fronts, like they 636 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: took a bunch of guys who are kind of dominant, 637 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: edge setting guys. I think that's a little bit of 638 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: a byproduct of the Rams and their physicality and kind 639 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: of how they want to play. So I thought that 640 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: was fascinating. Shamar Stewart was seventeen to the Bengals, Jalen 641 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: Walker right right before that, fifteen to Atlanta, and then 642 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: James Pierce. They come back in the Falcons select him 643 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: with their second first round pick, parting with next year's one, 644 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: which is kind of a little bit of a shocker. 645 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: And then the last one I'll give you here, donovin'z 646 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: Araku in the second round to the Dallas Cowboys. 647 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: What do you like the best. 648 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: Man? As much as I love Pierce as a player, 649 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 3: I like Asiraku going to the Dallas Cowboys. 650 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: And the reason why is I just think about the 651 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: defense flues coming back to Dallas, like they can play 652 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: with urgent athletes on the edge. As a rok who 653 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: just man his pace, his tempo, the vast are of 654 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 4: moves that he has, I would say that he probably 655 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: needs to cut it down so he can kind of 656 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: master what he wants to do at the next level. 657 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: But man, I just can see him and Michael Parsons 658 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: kind of engaging in various games and doing things from 659 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: stand up positions to create all kinds of problems for 660 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: offenses on third downs. 661 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: That's I would was actually going to go in that direction. 662 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go in a different direction here 663 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: and ask you a question. If I told you next year, like, 664 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: let's look at the first round guys are Abdull Carter, 665 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: mikel Williams, Jalen Walker, Shamar Stewart, James Pierce. Those five guys, right, 666 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: those five first rounders. If I told you that after 667 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: the year, next year, that the second rounders, which is 668 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: he's a rakkup, j T Tumolau, Nick s Gorton all 669 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: the days shoe he goes to the Titans. Mike Green, 670 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: if I told you that's five v five. If I 671 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: told you next year, Buck the season ends and the 672 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: second rounders end up having more sacks than the first rounders, 673 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: what would you say. 674 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised, because I think they're set up 675 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 4: for success given where they're going. We always talk about 676 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: the importance of fit in where you go. Mike Green 677 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 4: going to the Baltimore Ravens. Look out, my goodness, you 678 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying Like that, that is one that 679 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: I'm sure no one could have. He's going to be there. 680 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: And then you talk about as a Roku and some 681 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: of the other guys in the second round, they're a 682 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 4: better positioned to kind of feast off teams that are 683 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: having to chase points. Mike Green is going to have 684 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: more opportunities to get up to the pass, and then 685 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: maybe in Abdul card or some of these other guys, 686 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: and so I just think the fit and the opportunities 687 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: are going to be better for the second rounders. 688 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: We talked about the second round being the sweet spot 689 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: for these rushers, and these rushers that I mentioned in 690 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: the second round, almost all of them have big production, 691 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: like they know how to rush, like they're going to 692 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: show up and be ready to rush the pass or 693 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: whereas some of the traitsy guys in the first round 694 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: that might be more for two three years from now. 695 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: So I'd be curious that wouldn't check me in the 696 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: least if that second round group ended up being better 697 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: at least initially. 698 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: It wouldn't. 699 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: And DJ, let's be honest, like so many of the 700 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: pass rushers that emerge and become guys or guys that 701 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 4: are not taken in the first round. I mean, we've 702 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: just seen pass rush position is just different in terms 703 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: of where guy's spop. It's a lot about where you play, 704 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: what scheme you're playing, and how you deployed. 705 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: Those second round guys are. 706 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: Going to have opportunities to play to their strengths, but 707 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: they're playing on teams that are good that will set 708 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: them up for chances where some of these other teams 709 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: not the same thing. It's a huge weakness and you 710 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 4: can be counted on to be an every down player 711 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: where some of the second round guys are gonna be 712 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: in a designated pass rushier road, which is so much 713 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: different than being an every down run in. 714 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: Passed off Yep, it'll be fun to watch all these guys, man, 715 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: all right, this is fun. It was great to be 716 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: back together and catch up Buck again. Thanks to everybody 717 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: for hanging with us as we've gone through this entire 718 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: draft process. We've got to have more shows coming your way. 719 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna crawl under a rock for a 720 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: little bit, Buck, take a little take a little break, 721 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: and then we'll be back at it. But I'm excited. 722 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: Now we have teams. Now we can start digging into 723 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: what this is gonna look like next year. We've got 724 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: the schedule release that's right around the corner. The NFL 725 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: never sleeps, man. 726 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: Never sleeps, and that's a great thing. The schedule release 727 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: of the fourteenth. You got O ta's and minigames. You're 728 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: gonna have a month off and then before you know it, 729 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna be in July and it's on the pop. 730 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, guys. We'll see you next time. Right here, 731 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: I move the sticks.