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Speaker 1: us coming up in about fifteen minutes more on what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Lakers or could be going on
Speaker 1: with the Lakers. And is Frank Vogel once again coaching
Speaker 1: for his future tonight against the Pacers. That's a tune
Speaker 1: in factor. Hey tune in and see if Frank Vogel
Speaker 1: gets through the game without getting fired. Here can't wait
Speaker 1: for the postgame news conference. Pacers Lakers Grizzlies Bucks, I'll
Speaker 1: sample that and my calves take on the Chicago Bulls
Speaker 1: seventy six ers. I think got a trade offer. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's worth You know, sometimes when you
Speaker 1: make an offer on a house, or somebody makes an
Speaker 1: offer on your house, and then you don't even respond. No,
Speaker 1: it's like it's not even worth responding to you. But
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get some teams that are gonna go, hey,
Speaker 1: how about this, Hey you want to move Ben Simmons,
Speaker 1: We'll give you this. I found out yesterday that I'm
Speaker 1: curious if the Nets would be willing to trade James
Speaker 1: Harden to Philadelphia. And I talked to an NBA source
Speaker 1: works for the NBA office, So he said, are you
Speaker 1: hearing anything about hardened for Ben Simmons? And he said no,
Speaker 1: And I said, it feels like Kd's injury might keep
Speaker 1: him out till after the All Star break. And my
Speaker 1: sort of said, yes, that this might be a little
Speaker 1: bit worse than the Nets are leading on. Not that
Speaker 1: it's serious enough to shut him down, it's just they're
Speaker 1: not going to try to rush him back prior to
Speaker 1: the All Star break. Be after the All Star break
Speaker 1: but it was I think four to six weeks with
Speaker 1: that injury there. But that's all I have for you,
Speaker 1: NBA wise, But trade deadline coming up and we'll see.
Speaker 1: You know, normally you just get these, you know, these
Speaker 1: trades that happen. You go, wait, who's Bryn Forbes And
Speaker 1: he got traded? Like it feels like Evan Fournier gets
Speaker 1: traded just about every year the trade deadline. Like they're
Speaker 1: just certain players where you go, You're like Bull Bowl.
Speaker 1: He was going to get traded to one team and
Speaker 1: then that didn't happen, and he got traded I think
Speaker 1: to another team. You rarely get those, you know, we
Speaker 1: would always build this up. Hey, trade deadline, I'm here
Speaker 1: and you know, having a countdown clock. Sources close to
Speaker 1: me tell me and then you go, what happened at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline? Evan Fournier and Bryn Forbes got traded.
Speaker 1: But we'll talk to Sam Amock. He writes for The Athletic.
Speaker 1: He's been covering the Lakers situation and came out with
Speaker 1: the report that Frank Vogel was actually coaching for his
Speaker 1: job on Monday night and they got that win. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing he's still coaching for his job tonight against the Pacers,
Speaker 1: and then you got a long road trip coming up.
Speaker 1: I get if you're gonna fire him. Firing I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not Red Arbach here, he's not Greg Popovich, he's
Speaker 1: not Phil Jackson here. But be fair to him. You
Speaker 1: gave him a roster and you go, hey, I can
Speaker 1: have the greatest chef in the world. And if I
Speaker 1: give him, you know, spam and I go, hey, can
Speaker 1: you create a masterpiece here? You know the Lakers are spam.
Speaker 1: No service. You can dress it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: it's still spam. But you know that's where I can't
Speaker 1: see what's happening with Frank Vogel. That is it going
Speaker 1: to change this team dramatically? No. Frank Vogel is known
Speaker 1: as a defensive minded head coach in Orlando. He was
Speaker 1: very good defensive coach. Well, he's got a team that
Speaker 1: doesn't play defense. I don't know if they can or
Speaker 1: they just don't want to. Nobody want. Everybody I think
Speaker 1: was on board and saying what are you doing bringing
Speaker 1: in Russell Westbrook? Well, Lebron wanted that to happen. If
Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't want Frank Vogel then Frank Vogel's gone, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess he's got that power. If he had the
Speaker 1: power to get Russell westbrook in, is that going to change?
Speaker 1: You know the rotations that Frank Vogel has, And we
Speaker 1: get caught up in who's playing center. Well, DeAndre Jordan
Speaker 1: can't play and Dwight Howard can't play, not at a
Speaker 1: high level, and you know you're gonna try to put
Speaker 1: the him in the lineup. It's just a mess when
Speaker 1: you watch him play because you still have Lebron playing
Speaker 1: at a high level. Anthony Davis, this is who Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis is. He can give you Yannis type numbers and
Speaker 1: then he disappears or he gets injured, and then you
Speaker 1: got Russ. I mean Russ giveth and taketh away like
Speaker 1: no other player because he can beat you, and he
Speaker 1: can beat the Lakers. But he has taken away more
Speaker 1: than he's been giving. We'll have more on that coming up.
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Speaker 1: First round of the playoffs concluded Monday nights, and now
Speaker 1: we have eight teams. Now it's on a level playing
Speaker 1: field because there are two teams left that don't have
Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks, the Titans and the forty nine Ers. Both
Speaker 1: teams can rush the quarterback, they can run the football,
Speaker 1: and that's great for the regular season. That might make
Speaker 1: it difficult to score enough points when you're facing Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow in the bank was Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
Speaker 1: Those will be the matchups for those respective teams. But
Speaker 1: the Niners and Titans have talented rosters, and these are
Speaker 1: the kind of teams where I mean, the Niners are
Speaker 1: very physical and that's the type of team that can travel.
Speaker 1: You know, when you run the football, you get after
Speaker 1: the passer. I don't know if Boss is going to
Speaker 1: be healthy enough, and you got the Jimmy g factor,
Speaker 1: But can you win a Super Bowl without a top
Speaker 1: tier quarterback? Now, what's happened before? Of course, Nick Foles
Speaker 1: did it, you know, Peyton Manning led the Broncos to
Speaker 1: a win over the Panthers. Jimmy Garoppol almost did it,
Speaker 1: so it can be done. But it's really hard to
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who's not elite quarterback to string together
Speaker 1: three consecutive wins. And that's what we'll be asking those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks with the Titans and the forty nine ers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Point that is called the alleged of Nick Foles where
Speaker 1: you beat Tom Brady and a shootout in the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but you're not even close to a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: You made like one problem the legend Nick Foles being
Speaker 1: that kind of quarterback. And we were also wondering the
Speaker 1: teams that have already bowed out of the playoffs, who
Speaker 1: has the best chance of advancing next year? Advancing to where, well,
Speaker 1: you get past the first round, you get past your
Speaker 1: first game, because the Raiders, if you look at the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I love the talent they have, you know, car Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, Hunter Renfro, Max Crosby in Gackway, Like they
Speaker 1: have some talent there. They haven't drafted that well. Now,
Speaker 1: Mike mayonk's out your coach. You're probably getting a new one.
Speaker 1: But you're still playing the Chargers in the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: Denver is going to get better. Like Denver's sneaky. I
Speaker 1: think Denver is now you got to get your quarterback.
Speaker 1: Get your quarterback. Denver is a team that can be
Speaker 1: a playoff team next year. Yeah, it's like you just
Speaker 1: add a couple of pieces with the Raiders. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're able to get the Let's
Speaker 1: start with the coach. Do you want to keep Derek Carr?
Speaker 1: And you play in a tough division? And the Patriots? Okay?
Speaker 1: Are the Patriots gonna be good enough to get to
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills level next year? You got unrestricted free
Speaker 1: agents like J. C. Jackson who's been very good, Uh,
Speaker 1: Dante high Tower, You're gonna keep them? And do you
Speaker 1: have enough offense here to keep up with the Buffalo Bills?
Speaker 1: The Eagles? The Eagles have three first round picks. I
Speaker 1: guess that makes it a little easier to get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And you're in the NFC East And are
Speaker 1: you sold on Jalen Hurts Donald's Cowboys? This was supposed
Speaker 1: to be your year and you're probably gonna lose Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and or Dan Quinn. You're offensive and defensive coordinators
Speaker 1: and you have no salary capri. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to probably call on some veteran contracts
Speaker 1: here and say we're not gonna We're not gonna resign you,
Speaker 1: um Pittsburgh Steelers U. It may not matter who's quarterbacking.
Speaker 1: Because the Bengals Bengals are there, I expect the Ravens
Speaker 1: to rebound and the Browns can't be worse than what
Speaker 1: they were Pittsburgh without Ben. I mean, you can get
Speaker 1: an upgrade there, but the question is who are you
Speaker 1: going to get? Mason Rudolph is not your answer. Then
Speaker 1: you have the Arizona Cardinals. Cliff Kingsbury came out and said, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't have playoff experience did the Bengals. Bengals had
Speaker 1: less playoff experience? So I don't buy that. Are you
Speaker 1: sold on Cliff Kingsbury? And I'd start with that. You
Speaker 1: got an MVP candidate and Kyler Murray, but he struggled there.
Speaker 1: The defense was not good the last seven games of
Speaker 1: the season, allowing at least twenty two points. But you
Speaker 1: have maybe some turnover in Seattle, the Rams should still
Speaker 1: be good and the Niners, which Trey Lance, if he
Speaker 1: lives up to expectations, that could even be an upgrade there.
Speaker 1: But Arizona's got some questions and those are tough questions
Speaker 1: to answer because you know, I think we gave Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray a Hall pass with that performance. That's one of
Speaker 1: the worst playoff performances in recent memory for a team
Speaker 1: and a quarterback. If Baker Mayfield turned in the performance
Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray did, we would be killing him. Nobody
Speaker 1: is saying anything about Kyler Murray. It's about Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: It's like Dak Prescott didn't play well. Who are we
Speaker 1: talking about, Mike McCarthy. Yeah, Lebron had a game like that.
Speaker 1: Playoffs boom unlikely. But you know, yeah, that's true. We're
Speaker 1: very unlikely to have a game like that in the
Speaker 1: NFL playoffs. Uh, who's doing pull question responsibilities today? Polly?
Speaker 1: I think I got it. Okay, I feel decent about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have one issue. Let me get the poll an issue.
Speaker 1: Fritzie wrote one best quarterback of the remaining playoff teams
Speaker 1: right now? Like who's the best quarter currently playing? Like
Speaker 1: how they're playing right now? He put Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers. He left off Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was on purpose or by accident. Well,
Speaker 1: what do you mean by best quarterback right now? Who's
Speaker 1: playing the best? Okay, when Matthew Stafford didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Should he be on the list though he is in
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Yeah, but it's based on what they're how
Speaker 1: they're playing now. So I Todd explain this. I left Tannehill,
Speaker 1: Jimmy g and Stafford off because I don't think they
Speaker 1: belong on this particular poll as of this moment who's
Speaker 1: playing the best? And I think the other five have
Speaker 1: a right to be on it. Those three should not
Speaker 1: be included. But you're putting Matthew Stafford in with Jimmy
Speaker 1: Ge and Ryan Tannehill. Unfortunately he gets lumped in with
Speaker 1: the other two. I'm not ranking those three, but I
Speaker 1: think on what kind of keep it to a top five?
Speaker 1: And I think Stafford and miss is that group. Well
Speaker 1: by not ranking them, you're ranking them right kind of. Um,
Speaker 1: So the who's playing the best? I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means. Josh Allen was incredible. Ye he's
Speaker 1: winning this one. So is it just one? We're basing
Speaker 1: this off one game? Yeah? Okay, Josh Allen threw a
Speaker 1: perfect game against the Patriots. I mean, Josh Allen had
Speaker 1: one of the great games in playoff history. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: didn't have a good first quarter, but he did have
Speaker 1: five touchdowns in about ten minutes. That hasn't happened before.
Speaker 1: Rogers didn't play last week, Brady was Brady, and Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow was was really good, really good. Um, so I'd
Speaker 1: say Josh Allen just based off what happened against the Patriots. There,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the pole. Basically, you created a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago which losing playoff team will advance
Speaker 1: further or farther, not sure which one next year, Raiders, Patriots, Eagles, Cowboys, Steelers,
Speaker 1: Cardles further. Who do I think advances further farther? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll ask ad word or that it covers the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Does he think the Cowboys will advance further farther than
Speaker 1: anybody on this list? You're asking Farther is for physical distance,
Speaker 1: further is for figurative distance. So this is farther because
Speaker 1: now this should be further further because it's not actual distance,
Speaker 1: but it's actual distance next year that they go into
Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs, so you're you're going
Speaker 1: to a distance of an extra week. But right, so
Speaker 1: I think that would be figurative distance, wouldn't it not
Speaker 1: like actual physical distance? Would be like the Raiders are
Speaker 1: gonna go two point five miles further than But you, Patree,
Speaker 1: are going to move into the second round figuratively going
Speaker 1: to move like you if you win your first round,
Speaker 1: you have to move on to then go maybe play somebody. Figuratively, yes,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me talk to the guy who finished
Speaker 1: second in his graduating class. Seton has it right? It's
Speaker 1: like we're not talking about of measurement. It's not meters
Speaker 1: or yarns. Then you know we're talking about advancing to
Speaker 1: rounds of the playoffs. To me, I agree with seeing that.
Speaker 1: Will the Cowboys be moving on physically to the second round?
Speaker 1: They have to physically go somewhere in the second round, Yes,
Speaker 1: you're moving on to the second round, but there's no
Speaker 1: ruler involved, there's distance. Yeah, you're you have to physically.
Speaker 1: Let's say that Cowboys one, then they would have to
Speaker 1: go to Tampa. Physically you would move on to the
Speaker 1: second or they would travel to that area. However, figuratively
Speaker 1: it's representing the second. Is this then new pole question
Speaker 1: further farther? Oh no, because I look, I barely graduated.
Speaker 1: Paulie and I with the model sees get degrees ye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at how much fun we had and how much
Speaker 1: fun Todd didn't have. You know, you got straight a's
Speaker 1: and lived with his mom, Paul Paulie and I barely
Speaker 1: got SS. Yes, Dan, I'm actually more educated than most
Speaker 1: people because I went to college for five and a
Speaker 1: half years. That's a lot of learning. And we fixed
Speaker 1: the pole question which team's gonna do a lot better
Speaker 1: next year? And we can't do that? You can't ask
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? When you're talking to somebody
Speaker 1: and you're trying to use a word, then you realize
Speaker 1: you don't know how to pronounce the word, so you
Speaker 1: just change the word. Yeah, I did that like a
Speaker 1: week ago. I was trying to throw juxtapose in and
Speaker 1: I think I had the wrong way to use it.
Speaker 1: I go, you know, if you if you juxta, if
Speaker 1: you compare the two things, did you juxtapose? Juxtapose? This
Speaker 1: is not what you did. Let's take a break, Edward,
Speaker 1: or we'll talk about the troubles with the Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: we posted this yesterday. We gave a heads up to
Speaker 1: Eddie Wurder and to Eddie Eddie Order he told me
Speaker 1: I can call him Eddie years ago. I don't believe
Speaker 1: the first second he made that up. O Peter Schreeger later. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the question I post on the twitters yesterday. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can start your NFL team with any three defensive
Speaker 1: players all time, any combo positions. It doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be you know, the players you pick stay healthy for
Speaker 1: their entire career, and they're not on one team. It's anybody, anybody,
Speaker 1: any era, any player, any position. But you get three
Speaker 1: and my picks were Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, and Ed
Speaker 1: Reid and I got pretty good props for that. A
Speaker 1: lot of people pick Dion Sanders as their defensive and
Speaker 1: we got lots of responses, Well, you can't go wrong
Speaker 1: with Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor. Those are unimpeachable, especially
Speaker 1: if Lawrence Taylor is going to stay healthy. That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. Well, Ed Werder covered Dion Sanders, Ed joins us.
Speaker 1: Now you're three defensive players all time, you get him
Speaker 1: for their entire careers and they're healthy. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the obvious two and say Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go I thought about Ed Reid, I
Speaker 1: thought about Dion Sanders, but I'm gonna take Charles Woodson
Speaker 1: because he could play corner and safety and in addition
Speaker 1: to intercepting passes, he rushed the quarterback and got sacks
Speaker 1: at an unusually high rate for defensive back. Okay, how
Speaker 1: great was Dion? Dion was great. I mean he was
Speaker 1: He could play offense defense, He returned the ball on
Speaker 1: special teams. He was a unusual because it was a
Speaker 1: defensive player with offensive instincts when he got the ball
Speaker 1: in his hand. And I mean you talk to guys
Speaker 1: like you know, Troy Aikman who played with him and
Speaker 1: against him. He was legitimately a guy who created question
Speaker 1: in the mind of a quarterback as to whether you
Speaker 1: were willing to challenge him on that side of the field.
Speaker 1: And the funniest thing I remember about Dion was kind
Speaker 1: of toward the end of his career in Dallas, there
Speaker 1: was a game on a Sunday where Peyton Manning and
Speaker 1: the Colts and Marvin Harrison. They threw at him an
Speaker 1: inordinate number of times, like ten times. And I had
Speaker 1: a previously scheduled sit down with Dion that next week,
Speaker 1: and so I asked him about this, and he said, Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't worried. I've been out there on that island
Speaker 1: longer than Gilligan. Eddie laughed, as you could imagine, and
Speaker 1: so did I. And as I was leaving the room
Speaker 1: a few minutes later, having finished the interview, he said, oh, man,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I said what he said. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say that line for the playoffs. He was
Speaker 1: already thinking of what lines he wanted to use at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. League. Is Aaron Donald encroaching on Regie
Speaker 1: white territory here? Yeah, I mean absolutely. I think he's
Speaker 1: the most dominant defensive player in the league right now.
Speaker 1: It has been for you know, almost his entire career.
Speaker 1: So without question, he's the most fear defensive player in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. But yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 1: You don't I didn't really think of guys who are
Speaker 1: currently playing and I eliminated all the guys that I
Speaker 1: never saw myself, so you know, Deacon Jones and guys
Speaker 1: like that. I love the night Train Lane, those guys
Speaker 1: who might have merited consideration from a slightly older person,
Speaker 1: of which there are not many anymore. When we look
Speaker 1: at players now, though, with Trrell Davis getting in and
Speaker 1: being injured and having a six year career, can you
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer after four years, five years?
Speaker 1: I've never been a Hall of Fame voters, so I
Speaker 1: don't really know what the cutoff is, but I know
Speaker 1: that's a major consideration his longevity of career, although they've
Speaker 1: certainly made concessions not only for players but even coaches.
Speaker 1: You know, recently, I was one of the arguments against
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson was that he didn't coach long enough to
Speaker 1: tambar at him. I thought it was a ridiculous argument
Speaker 1: in his case, and I think it for the most part,
Speaker 1: longevity matters unless a player was just incredibly dominant and
Speaker 1: that led to champion ship performances where otherwise they would
Speaker 1: not have existed. So I think that's why Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: Threll Davis get exceptions. But if you like Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: you win three Defensive Players of the Year and let's
Speaker 1: say a five year period or J. J. Watt wins
Speaker 1: three like, is that enough where the voters are going
Speaker 1: to go, that's an MVP, that that's a whole of five.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: have to win Super Bowls like most players would have
Speaker 1: to do. Because of the reason you decided, I mean,
Speaker 1: to dominate at your position on a team that wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough to get to a championship. I think says
Speaker 1: an awful lot about those players too. The biggest question
Speaker 1: in Dallas today is what well for a time, how
Speaker 1: are they going to rebound from this um? This was
Speaker 1: an epic disaster, even by their standards. Jerry Jones acknowledged
Speaker 1: as much, you know, after the game, saying that he
Speaker 1: couldn't remember being more disappointed that he didn't see this coming.
Speaker 1: That when you have this collection of talent, you have
Speaker 1: to win, and they didn't. Not only did I mean
Speaker 1: it seems to be a team that couldn't get to
Speaker 1: the NFC championship, team couldn't get out of the divisional round,
Speaker 1: and this team wins twelve games, has a home game
Speaker 1: and can't even get out of the wildcard round. They
Speaker 1: were dominated at home. Only team to lose at home
Speaker 1: in Wildcard weekend Super Wildcard Weekend was the Cowboys. Well,
Speaker 1: you tweeted this out that you know, the Cowboys win
Speaker 1: total and point total was inflated by playing against bad
Speaker 1: teams in their own division, and they caught up with
Speaker 1: them that you almost start to believe, Hey, we can
Speaker 1: go out there and put fifty points. Hey, we got
Speaker 1: two defensive players who are impactful players. Well were they
Speaker 1: impactful when they were playing against substandard teams? And that offense?
Speaker 1: Was it good against substandard teams? And I think we
Speaker 1: found out what the answer is here. You know, back
Speaker 1: in the nineties when the Boys were a dominant team,
Speaker 1: if you looked at the NFC East, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Gibbs coaching, and you know Bill Parcells coaching, and
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor, Phil Simms, you know any number of great players.
Speaker 1: You know, Darryl why can't I think of his name
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Daryl Green, Reggie White, all those
Speaker 1: guys were in that division. And so when you made
Speaker 1: it through that, that meant something like you were ready
Speaker 1: for anything at that point in the playoffs, and this
Speaker 1: team went six and oh against the NFC East, the
Speaker 1: only team in the league that went undefeated in its division.
Speaker 1: The point differential in those games the Cowboys were plus
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three. They were six and six
Speaker 1: including playoffs against non division opponents, not only not only
Speaker 1: teams that weren't as good, but teams that they didn't
Speaker 1: know as well, and the point differential was just thirty
Speaker 1: three plus thirty three in way more games. So and
Speaker 1: if you look at it, you know they at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, McCarthy talked about, you know, playing
Speaker 1: the way they did and trying to create momentum and
Speaker 1: offensive confidence. In that final game against the Eagles, while
Speaker 1: the Eagles sat out like sixteen starters, you know, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys scored fifty to one points and they were rolling
Speaker 1: into the playoffs in field. But you know, look at
Speaker 1: what happened to If they scored forty three at the
Speaker 1: time of season high against Atlanta went outside the division
Speaker 1: blosson next week, they scored fifty six against Washington that
Speaker 1: was their new high, went outside the division blosson next week,
Speaker 1: and then they scored fifty one against the Eagles, went
Speaker 1: outside of the division of the playoffs and lost. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they got an inflated sense of self and
Speaker 1: they weren't nearly the dominant team that the division made
Speaker 1: them appear to be. And then you have the coaching
Speaker 1: situation here. I know that Jerry Jones, I guess, has
Speaker 1: said that Mike McCarthy is coming back. You're the two
Speaker 1: coaches you want to keep. You're probably gonna lose at
Speaker 1: least one of them, and Dan Quinn and Kelln Moore,
Speaker 1: but you're going to keep Mike McCarthy. Do you think
Speaker 1: that that's how this plays out, you lose both coordinators
Speaker 1: or just dan quinn. Well, it was interesting that right
Speaker 1: after the game, when Jerry Jones came out of the
Speaker 1: losing locker room, a place he never expected to be
Speaker 1: on this particular Sunday, he did walk over to us
Speaker 1: and I asked him directly about whether he would consider
Speaker 1: a coaching change under the circumstances, and I fully expected
Speaker 1: him to flatly shut it down, and he didn't. He
Speaker 1: said something to the effect of, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to address so you asked that question of you know,
Speaker 1: because I when I heard it, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: it's really easy. If you ask any owner of a
Speaker 1: playoff team right now, would they give you a I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to address that right now.
Speaker 1: Now grants don't do interviews, But right it felt like
Speaker 1: it was, Hey, I can rubber stamp this and move on.
Speaker 1: And now he kind of left it in the ether
Speaker 1: there a little bit. Well, and let's put it in context.
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Jones has been doing this for thirty
Speaker 1: years and the first coach he fired was Tom Landry.
Speaker 1: And he's either hired or fired or bought out every
Speaker 1: coach I've ever had in history of the franchise. So
Speaker 1: he knows was the gravity of the question, especially in
Speaker 1: the circumstances we're talking about this horrific loss that they've
Speaker 1: just suffered, which he fully admits, and and he goes
Speaker 1: on after that answer to basically say, like I told you, like,
Speaker 1: we had this incredible collection of talent. In other words,
Speaker 1: I as a general manager and we as a front office,
Speaker 1: we gave Mike McCarthy this incredibly talented team and he
Speaker 1: train wrecked at the first opportunity in the postseason. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jerry knew what he was saying. And now
Speaker 1: whether they thought about that possibility, oh, you know, for
Speaker 1: a few hours overnight. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you just wanted to make McCarthy feel uncomfortable that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't give him an endorsement in that moment. But
Speaker 1: and he still really hasn't said yet that he's coming back,
Speaker 1: and with Stephen Jones who said it yesterday that he
Speaker 1: absolutely expected McCarthy back, And my understanding as McCarthy's going
Speaker 1: to speak to the media this afternoon out at the
Speaker 1: Star and I'll be there for that unless something I
Speaker 1: say on this show prevents that from happening. But but
Speaker 1: I guess, I yeah, I think in the question becomes
Speaker 1: more legitimate and timely because of what you said, the
Speaker 1: circumstances of Hey, Kellen Moore's interviewing with the Broncos yesterday,
Speaker 1: He's interviewing with the Vikings in the Dolphins this week.
Speaker 1: You know, Dan Quinn is probably gonna get three or
Speaker 1: four offers. And do you want to lose this guy
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator who took the worst defense and
Speaker 1: franchise history and in one year turned it into a
Speaker 1: great asset that actually outplayed your offense most of the season. So,
Speaker 1: but I think since he hasn't prevented dan Quinn from interviewing,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's decided he's going to keep Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: and let dan Quinn go. If he asked it, he
Speaker 1: said Werder, he covers the NFL, and for the Mothership
Speaker 1: also covers the Cowboys. Of course, you know, you start
Speaker 1: to look at the end of that game. I thought
Speaker 1: that that kind of washed away the sins of McCarthy
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott in that game, that Dak didn't have
Speaker 1: a good game, and now it feels like the refs
Speaker 1: did this to us. And you know that Dak didn't
Speaker 1: do this too. You didn't do anything for the first
Speaker 1: three orders, right, and time management clock management with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: We've seen it before. We shouldn't be surprised at any
Speaker 1: of this. You know, I didn't buy the excuse of, hey,
Speaker 1: we practice this well if you practice it. You didn't
Speaker 1: practice this correctly, and it just felt like we're letting
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott off the hook a little bit that that
Speaker 1: was a poor performance. Well, obviously, I think there were
Speaker 1: a lot of games where what we saw the other
Speaker 1: day played itself out. Happened in the Denver loss at home,
Speaker 1: It happened in the Raider loss at home, and it
Speaker 1: happened again against the forty nine ers, Which is, for
Speaker 1: three quarters the offense does nothing and then there's this
Speaker 1: frantic effort to get back in the game with some
Speaker 1: level of success. But in none of those games that
Speaker 1: they ever retake the lead. This was a team that
Speaker 1: never came from behind all season long. But I don't
Speaker 1: think it was entirely Dak Prescott's fault. Do I think Dak,
Speaker 1: it his first year back from this catastrophic injury stuffered
Speaker 1: last year, was the same player. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he was. He was not in the dual threat that
Speaker 1: he was before that injury against the Giants last year.
Speaker 1: But I think the most significant problem they have as
Speaker 1: their offensive line and their inability to create a running game.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean Ezekiel Elliott had one yard
Speaker 1: averaged one yard per rush the other day against the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers before first contact, which is the worst
Speaker 1: in four career playoff games for z And even though
Speaker 1: they played half the game and Nick Bosa wasn't out
Speaker 1: there rushing the passer with a four man rush, Dak
Speaker 1: got pressured twenty times and sacked five times. I think
Speaker 1: the biggest question about this offense is how come there
Speaker 1: were so few times when Dak got the ball in
Speaker 1: the shotgun or dropped, got to the top of the
Speaker 1: drop and let it go because his gout, his first
Speaker 1: read or his second read was open. Where were those throws?
Speaker 1: It was constantly him holding the ball deep into the
Speaker 1: progression pressure starting and comme and then dump it off somewhere.
Speaker 1: Why isn't Ceedee Lamb a bigger factor? Why isn't Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard used differently? I mean to me, those are the
Speaker 1: bigger questions. And hey, how come Dak Prescott can't win
Speaker 1: a playoff game like this? Dak did have an apology,
Speaker 1: and as soon as I heard the words of it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's going to walk those words back where he basically was,
Speaker 1: you know, saying, complimenting the crowd defended right, he can
Speaker 1: done it, yeah, throwing debris at the officials, but he
Speaker 1: I guess he issued a statement yesterday he did. The
Speaker 1: interesting thing was when when he said it, he thought
Speaker 1: initially that people were talking about He didn't see it happen,
Speaker 1: and so when it was described to him and he
Speaker 1: was asked about it in his postgame news conference. He
Speaker 1: thought people were throwing trash at DeMarcus Lawrence and other
Speaker 1: players because some of them were hit with some of
Speaker 1: the debris, and then when some when so he answered
Speaker 1: the question, he and he criticized that behavior, but then
Speaker 1: when it was made clear to him that it was
Speaker 1: the officials super the target, he said, you know something like,
Speaker 1: well credit to them, then, you know, kind of a
Speaker 1: thing um and indorset and I think one it was
Speaker 1: out of character for Dak to say that. I think
Speaker 1: I think he meant what he said. In terms of
Speaker 1: his apology, I think it was sincere and he regrets
Speaker 1: it now. Whether there's fallout for that for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: next year, as you know how games are called early
Speaker 1: in the season, that remains to be seen. But one
Speaker 1: of the things that happened to this team late in
Speaker 1: the year was I believe it probably was Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: who basically gave the players the excuse for losing, that
Speaker 1: the officials were against them, like they were always trying
Speaker 1: to beat the opposing team, and this third element the officials,
Speaker 1: and the reality is they were the most penalized team
Speaker 1: in the NFL all regular season. They're the only team
Speaker 1: in the NFL DAN that had two games where they
Speaker 1: were assessed fourteen penalties, the only team they're only four
Speaker 1: such games in the whole league. They had half of them.
Speaker 1: And so for them to be arguing are their miscalls
Speaker 1: always against both teams in every game, But the fact
Speaker 1: that they're claiming that the officials are biased against them
Speaker 1: to the point that it's debt a mental and actually
Speaker 1: causes them to lose, it's preposterous. Man, Now that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are out of the playoffs, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: What are you covering now? Oh, there's there's plenty of
Speaker 1: more Cowboys funerals to eulogize for me to appreciate. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Normally, Normally I go on and cover more
Speaker 1: playoff games and put them aside. But in this case,
Speaker 1: I think there's a little more interest in continuing to
Speaker 1: examine why this happened. Even though you can argue same
Speaker 1: outcome they've had for twenty six consecutive seasons, they don't
Speaker 1: get to a championship game. How many playoff wins have
Speaker 1: you covered for the Cowboys? A lot? Because I covered
Speaker 1: the nineties teams. Oh okay, Okay, so I covered all.
Speaker 1: I covered the three Super Bowl wins. I covered the
Speaker 1: loss in the championship game under Switzer to the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. I guess there have been three or four since.
Speaker 1: You could say, since Aikman's retirement, how many have you covered?
Speaker 1: And I would say, there's what Romo one one, dacks
Speaker 1: one one. That's it. There was no social media the
Speaker 1: last time they won. There was no internet the last
Speaker 1: time they won a Super Bowl? Right, it was a
Speaker 1: better world? Oh it was. It was a safe travels Ed.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's always great to hear from you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Actually invite Dan. That's Ed Werder ESPN NFL reporter. Of
Speaker 1: course he covers the Comboys. Is it an easy job
Speaker 1: or is it a tough job? Because there's always drama there.
Speaker 1: That would be good if you're a reporter, you always
Speaker 1: have something there, but then always staying on top of
Speaker 1: something when and Ed is Hall of Famer, But that
Speaker 1: sources close to you know, somebody's friends with Jerry, or
Speaker 1: somebody's friends with like it's dog eat dog in markets
Speaker 1: like that of getting the person that you can talk to,
Speaker 1: like with the Lakers, somebody put out information about Frank Vogel.
Speaker 1: Somebody leaked that to the athletic like just having that
Speaker 1: sort of lifeline there, and that's what you work hard
Speaker 1: for when you cover a team locally. All Right, we'll
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Speaker 1: I can always find a game to watch. And I
Speaker 1: was flipping around and I was trying to find a game.
Speaker 1: It was not a good NBA night last night. I tried.
Speaker 1: I was even watching the Warriors and Clay Thompson and
Speaker 1: they sort of went through the motions. They didn't need
Speaker 1: much against Detroit. Watching college basketball, I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: ease into college basketball. It's just there's no there there
Speaker 1: and you watch and you go, Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: who's the tune in player right now, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: that always helps when you go, boy, I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see that matchup. And those days might be long gone.
Speaker 1: It feels like after Zion went. And then if you
Speaker 1: get these you know, kids coming out of high school
Speaker 1: right to the NBA, you know you might not get
Speaker 1: that tune in factor that we once had. Now you know,
Speaker 1: Zion is a generational type of player because he was
Speaker 1: already built up on YouTube and then he got to
Speaker 1: Duke knew he was going to be one and done.
Speaker 1: But you tuned in to watch and you got thirty nights,
Speaker 1: thirty games of Zion Williamson. And it used to be
Speaker 1: you could have a tune in factor. You could see
Speaker 1: certain games, but you couldn't see every game. When Patrick
Speaker 1: Ewing faced Ralph Sampson, like that was a big deal.
Speaker 1: When UCLA played Houston in the Astrodome and it's Elvin
Speaker 1: Hayes against Luel Sindor, that was an event. But we
Speaker 1: don't have that anymore. And you won't have that. Hey,
Speaker 1: you won round one in your freshman year, now round
Speaker 1: two the second year. You don't have those tune in
Speaker 1: factor basketball games. Now. It doesn't mean there aren't good players,
Speaker 1: it's just sometimes you like that guy who is the anomaly,
Speaker 1: the unicorn, And it'll take a while. We'll get to
Speaker 1: March Madness and then we'll go this if black like
Speaker 1: we know exactly you know, we've been watching this guy
Speaker 1: all season long. Man, that team, you know, their bigs
Speaker 1: are good. They can hit the threes and they make
Speaker 1: their free throws. Like, we'll have it broken down with
Speaker 1: we'll be ready for March Madness. That's a little while
Speaker 1: from now. Yeah, going back to a long long time ago,
Speaker 1: when Ralph Sampson faced Patrick Ewing, he was on the
Speaker 1: cover of Sports Illustrated. It was like a fold out cover.
Speaker 1: They were laying sideways and it's like and it's that
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you Patrick, the college basketball issue. That's
Speaker 1: how big these guys were. They were on the cover.
Speaker 1: And even when you had usually that cover for Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated was a big deal. Who's going to be on
Speaker 1: the cover. Who's going to be on the cover. Now
Speaker 1: it's just not the same. And I wonder if you
Speaker 1: get those players who go right to the NBA, what's
Speaker 1: that going to do for the players who were in college,
Speaker 1: and it feels like if you don't leave after your
Speaker 1: freshman year, and then we started to go, what's what's
Speaker 1: wrong with him? He's not that good? And it's not
Speaker 1: fair to those players because they may stay for other reasons.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry stayed an extra year because he weren't he
Speaker 1: wanted to learn to play the point guard position. That's
Speaker 1: why I stayed one more year, Davidson, But I think
Speaker 1: the the perception is that you're not good enough to
Speaker 1: play in the NBA, and that's unfair to those who
Speaker 1: actually want to go to college. I want a novel
Speaker 1: approach here. I might want to stay in college here,
Speaker 1: just for a little while. I mean I stayed in
Speaker 1: college a little while, but that's I didn't have any
Speaker 1: other options there. I think I did five years, maybe
Speaker 1: it's four and a half years, but I had to transfer.
Speaker 1: I sat out, and then then I went back. At
Speaker 1: least that's the story I'm sticking with. Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 1: I transferred, I had to sit out. Yeah, Polly, I
Speaker 1: didn't even have a masters that I went five and
Speaker 1: a half. It's just straight undergrad respect. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this cover Sports Illustrated. It's Ralph and Patrick and it
Speaker 1: says I'm waiting for you Patrick. I wonder if Ralph
Speaker 1: actually said that, because I would never say that to
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing back then when he was at Georgetown. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for you Patrick, I'd be like, no, don't put
Speaker 1: that in the headline, because I'm not saying that. I'm
Speaker 1: not waiting for you, Patrick. Uh. Gus and Los Angeles
Speaker 1: joins us this morning, Gus, good to talk to you again.
Speaker 1: Good to speak with you, mister Patrick. But mister Patrick,
Speaker 1: come on, chix am and I'm hearing you compare my
Speaker 1: lagers to spam. Has they never happened in the world? Well, okay,
Speaker 1: anybody ever compared lagas Faan Lebron is a steak. He
Speaker 1: is a high end steak, but it's just not a
Speaker 1: good meal. Right now, Gus, I mean I understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, le look, look, let's be honest there, all right,
Speaker 1: Marty having a rough morning. I'm a little hand. Imagine
Speaker 1: Jim trying to do some curls, so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: look good for this damn shower of shame. And you know,
Speaker 1: then I hear spam. It's like, look, all right, Look,
Speaker 1: then we fire Frank Bogel. All right, we fire Frank Vogel.
Speaker 1: It's like then the excuses start coming. Say we are
Speaker 1: able to pull off a great trade, one that we
Speaker 1: should have done in July, but we had to wait
Speaker 1: till February to do it. Then the excuse is like, oh,
Speaker 1: but the team's not really men. The excuses are going
Speaker 1: to continue. Mister Patrick, Please tell me when will this
Speaker 1: nightmare end? I don't know, because even if you make
Speaker 1: the change here with Frank Vogel, you still have that roster.
Speaker 1: Now you can say, hey, maybe you go with a
Speaker 1: bigger lineup instead of Lebron at the five. When's ad back?
Speaker 1: You can't trade Russell. I don't know who you're going
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