WEBVTT - Dynasty Baseball Players to Sell (Ep. 751)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in friends to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Baseball Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>right here on Fantasy Pros and the Leading off Baseball Feed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Chris Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find on.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at is It the Welsh. We continue our Dynasty

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball series, obviously the Dynasty Baseball Podcast. Today we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about who we're selling. Last week we had Tim kannak

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<v Speaker 1>On talking about Dynasty bys. This week, Jesse Roach from

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Perspectus is going to be joining us to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Dynasty cells, go by position, top players that

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<v Speaker 1>he is looking at selling overall. So we're playing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of the negative side today though though there

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<v Speaker 1>are some Dynasty bys also kind of sprinkled into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me here on the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Baseball podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is Jesse Roach, who you can find as a writer

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<v Speaker 1>and rankover at Baseball Perspectives. I have known Jesse for

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<v Speaker 1>quite time, done lots of episodes, and that is why

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<v Speaker 1>we have got him not only on the Dynasties the

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<v Speaker 1>Cells Dynasty Cells, because Jesse is not afraid to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how it is. This is a difficult subject. Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll even tell you this. I was going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you all the details, but I was perusing some content

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figuring out maybe in a certain place that

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<v Speaker 1>we know, and I was looking, hey, what did well

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<v Speaker 1>last year?

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<v Speaker 2>What did poorly?

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<v Speaker 1>And the poor was focusing on the negative. The negative

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<v Speaker 1>stuff didn't do as well as some of the positive

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from a content perspective. But you do need to

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<v Speaker 1>have the conversation. And what a better conversation to have

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<v Speaker 1>than digging in on dynasty cells here. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even get to give you a proper introduction.

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<v Speaker 3>Buddy, Hey, it's great to be on I love talking cells.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people who know me in

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<v Speaker 3>the industry understand that I am not afraid to be

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<v Speaker 3>a DeBie downer with players. I often will throw cold

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<v Speaker 3>water because there's just so much hype in our in

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<v Speaker 3>our space, that's like all we see just about so

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<v Speaker 3>I like to throw cold water on players. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>the expectations that people have, at least for players as

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<v Speaker 3>much as possible, because we have to be realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I presume I don't know whether you

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<v Speaker 1>are or not, but if you were a gambler, presume

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<v Speaker 1>you would be someone that would find some good unders.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be betting some unders you could you would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to identify the like Andrew Erickson here at Fantasy bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be able to identify some unders, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>In the dynasty space, the cells are so important, I

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<v Speaker 1>think more important than in redraft. Like redraft is fun

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<v Speaker 1>and taking advantage. I think buys are more important in redraft,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, when you can get out, it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>But dynasty hype is king.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we had Tim Kanak on last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know Tim would talk about when you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at like Ottana leagues, No definitely has kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>stock system element to it, where you want to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right proper time where you can get out, and

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<v Speaker 1>almost everybody has a price to get out. Every dynasty

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<v Speaker 1>has created differently that has arbitration and money systems. Some

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<v Speaker 1>leagues you can just keep guys forever, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that there isn't a time where everybody can be sold.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are going to put some focus on some

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<v Speaker 1>players that Jesse has identified as cells in Dynasty, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did positionally last week on the buy, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do the same on the cells this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get right into it and let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>catchers we have. We're going to focus more on the

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<v Speaker 1>major league side. We do have a couple of prospects,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is an instant where I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about the prospects.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start with your first Dynasty stell At Catcher.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I guess at the outset. I want to say

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<v Speaker 3>that selling in Dynasty is often context driven. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very obvious to say, oh, well, an

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<v Speaker 3>aging player is a great cell, because when if they

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<v Speaker 3>have a bad season, all of a sudden, there's stock plummets,

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<v Speaker 3>it craters because they're all you know, they're in their

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<v Speaker 3>mid thirties. Sometimes Freddie Freeman right now, for example, you

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<v Speaker 3>know he's thirty four, fairly safe profile generally, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if he had a bad season, if you want started

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<v Speaker 3>to go the way of Joey Vado, I mean, his

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<v Speaker 3>stock in fantasy, you know, his value will just completely fall.

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<v Speaker 3>The floor will fall out. So I don't really like

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<v Speaker 3>to focus necessarily on aging players because I think it's obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of these players are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be good selling cells. I mean we're seeing that already

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<v Speaker 3>with like Paul Goldschmidt. You know, his value is creted

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're an insane person.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally was waiting to jump in because I was

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<v Speaker 1>literally going to bring up Paul Goldman. You read my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're exactly right. He had a poor ish season

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<v Speaker 1>because of his age.

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<v Speaker 2>He's tumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as value goes, I would argue he's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge buy. Expected stats through the roof tell a different

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<v Speaker 1>story working at drive line, which can be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah for some people, Oh drive line. But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things, it's just funny because I was this

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<v Speaker 1>was something that has stood out. Just wrote in the

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Black book Joe Piezapias, which is out now everybody

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<v Speaker 1>can go check out. We did some Dynasty stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually did a Dynasty mock with a breakdown. But gold

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<v Speaker 1>Schmid was one that stood out to me so much

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<v Speaker 1>in my writing because you go and look, you see

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<v Speaker 1>all these expected numbers that we're kind of telling you

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<v Speaker 1>a different story. But one thing you also saw was

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<v Speaker 1>you could see that bat speed seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 1>going away. Because hard hit numbers, if I'm remembering correctly

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<v Speaker 1>from what I wrote, they sustain. But the lawn ch

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<v Speaker 1>agle dropped and I think it dropped significantly, So in

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<v Speaker 1>my brain I started to just started to put together

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe the bat speed was becoming a problem where

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<v Speaker 1>all these underlying things worked in favor. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you know it, as I'm in the process of writing it,

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<v Speaker 1>I find he's at driveline working on bat speed the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing. So this is just like a little

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<v Speaker 1>tiny thing I'm adding and you'll add to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is so funny you brought him up because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a prime example of what you were leading to. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes those guys can actually be dynasty buys because that

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<v Speaker 1>is cratered.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly. I think Goldshman's a good opportunity by right now,

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<v Speaker 3>given that a lot of people will not. He's typically

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<v Speaker 3>drafted well outside of top one hundred. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I still have him within my top one fifty personally,

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<v Speaker 3>but I wouldn't be shocked to see people push him

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<v Speaker 3>outside to top two hundred. I will tell you in

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<v Speaker 3>dynasty leagues in practice, you know, when my rankings are

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<v Speaker 3>basically in a vacuum, right, they're context neutral, So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in a vacuum, that's how I value him. But obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a rebuilding team, you're not placing any value

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<v Speaker 3>on Paul out, So the number of people who are

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<v Speaker 3>willing to buy him is very limited. So if there's

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<v Speaker 3>someone willing to sell him, they're going to have a

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<v Speaker 3>limited number of teams to even work with. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're one of those teams, you can often you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get a good value because there's just not much competition. Great.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great that's a really great context point of knowing the

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<v Speaker 1>market is a lot less guys get thirty three and over.

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<v Speaker 1>That market is much smaller to the buy now and

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of a poor year, it just doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't mean to make this about Paul gold Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was a prime example. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think your concrest is really important. So what people can

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<v Speaker 1>know is this isn't going to be a list of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six year old guys and above that you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to drop here, and this catcher sure isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's a William contraras so he's twenty five year old.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to be twenty six in a week. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know he's a Christmas Eve baby, So happy soon

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<v Speaker 3>to be birthday, William Contras. But you know he's coming

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<v Speaker 3>off a very strong season, very strong second half with

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<v Speaker 3>the Brewers. You know, he had a six hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eleven plate appearances, seventeen home runs, eighty six runs scored,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy eight RBI, six stolem bases to go on top

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<v Speaker 3>of it, and at two eighty nine average. So he

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<v Speaker 3>had a fantastic season. Huge strides defensively too, which I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for fantasy, maybe that it matters only to

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<v Speaker 3>the point that it's more likely he's going to stick

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<v Speaker 3>a catcher long term. It's almost a lock at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>But my big concern is I'm seeing people draft ranking

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<v Speaker 3>him as high as second dynasty catchers behind Adlie Rushman.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a bit of a stretch for a

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<v Speaker 3>few reasons. Right, Yes, he has big power, his evs

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<v Speaker 3>are great, but he hits everything into the ground. His

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<v Speaker 3>ground ball rate has consistently been astronomical. It's fifty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent last year. It's really difficult for players to change

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<v Speaker 3>launch angle. It requires a lot of swing mechanical changes.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he's putting more balls in the air, all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, that batting average is going to start

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<v Speaker 3>to creep down because the more fly balls he hits

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<v Speaker 3>the less the lower the batting average and balls and

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<v Speaker 3>play will be So there's a trade off here. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want that like two eighty two ninety average, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to come with a very much muted power production.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you are trying to chase the power production

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<v Speaker 3>because you see the underlying exit velocity data and the

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<v Speaker 3>hard hit rates, then you're going to be disappointed because

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<v Speaker 3>the average will go crashing down if he starts putting

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<v Speaker 3>the ball more in the air. So it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>profile that I don't think it's I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>very strong give and take here with him. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that he's a player that has as much growth

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<v Speaker 3>potential as some people maybe in vision with him. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still just concerned generally because I think there's still

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<v Speaker 3>plenty of underlyings were to miss in his game. It

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<v Speaker 3>took a step forward last year. His zone contact rate

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<v Speaker 3>jumped five percentage points from seventy seven point two percent

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<v Speaker 3>to eighty two point two percent, and he's consistently had

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<v Speaker 3>very poor contact rates throughout his career. Last year was

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<v Speaker 3>basically an anomalous season. Are we going to expect him

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<v Speaker 3>to maintain that moving forward? I think that's also a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a stretch, So I generally think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>profile that has less growth potential and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>createring potential. And I really don't like where he's being

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<v Speaker 3>priced right now in Dynasty. I do not think he's

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<v Speaker 3>the top one hundred Dynasty player period, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>would be out. I would be trying to sell right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's weird to sell someone who's about to

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<v Speaker 3>be twenty six at catcher, who's coming off a career

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<v Speaker 3>season in a favorable home park on a good offensive team,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and taking a look here.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended up going in giving a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Klegg, who was doing some Dynasty mock similar to

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<v Speaker 1>my prospect ones on the Dynasty dugout. Contreras was the

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<v Speaker 1>second catcher taken in Dynasty overall. In this mack of

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I was a part of, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a third, I'm sorry third. Will Smith ended up going.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like second, and he was a third and

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<v Speaker 1>this had He's got some really good Dynasty people just

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<v Speaker 1>in my draft alone. What's interesting is he's the third

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<v Speaker 1>catcher going in NFPC drafts this year, going ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith as well. I think early season drafts are

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<v Speaker 1>driving some of it. Age is driving some of it,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the changes are driving it. But I devalue

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<v Speaker 1>catchers a little bit in Dynasty kind of in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So pate price, Yeah, exactly, And projections are great. Steamer

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<v Speaker 1>is projecting twenty five eighty eighty with a two seventy

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<v Speaker 1>batting average and low strikeouts. That's fine if that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not with like similar to what you said. If

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<v Speaker 1>those power numbers are going to rise, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>batting average is going to suffer greater. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what the team context they're running RBI numbers

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<v Speaker 1>will be there. Either way, it's a pretty good opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>not to be spending so much time here in catcher.

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<v Speaker 1>You just do have one other really interesting name I

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<v Speaker 1>want to throw as a cell and I'm gonna guess

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be about hype, which is understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>But Ethan Solace is one that you threw here for Dynasty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So it's funny because I was talking about this

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<v Speaker 3>pre show, is that I actually drafted Ethan Sawace in

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<v Speaker 3>the Prospect one draft. I think it was twenty first

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<v Speaker 3>so overall, so I look, I really like Ethan Sawas.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what you're going to see this offseason is

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<v Speaker 3>all the big national lists are going to come out

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going to be a top five prospect in

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<v Speaker 3>all of baseball and in typical dynasty leagues and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them that don't involve maybe more savvy owners.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to look at those lists and buy that

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<v Speaker 3>hype in a big way. Look, he is eighteen, he's

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<v Speaker 3>on it's even eighteen. Yet he's not even eighteen years old. Yet,

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<v Speaker 3>He's not even eighteen on opening Day, he's said seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>years old. Catchers take a long time to develop. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he's on a massively fast track, but doesn't mean he's not.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to like start stagnating. You know, he's in

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<v Speaker 3>Double A. He's gonna spend probably all year in Double A,

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<v Speaker 3>probably all year in Triple A next year. Yes, he'll

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<v Speaker 3>still probably get to the majors early. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't catchers scared of me in dynasty, especially catching prospects,

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of reasons. You know, if den Bell mounts,

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<v Speaker 3>time is very lengthy for catching prospects, the attrition rates

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<v Speaker 3>very high, and when they get to the majors. As

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<v Speaker 3>you've noted, you know, catchers they have muted production periods.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're going to see flashy hitting power tools maybe

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<v Speaker 3>from analysts for someone like SaaS, but those are going

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<v Speaker 3>to get muted at the pro level. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 3>look at what Adlee Rushman's doing. Fantastic player, but and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I all tends some purposes. It's a very

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<v Speaker 3>clear plus hit tool with you know, above average power,

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<v Speaker 3>but it plays down in games because it's a long

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<v Speaker 3>season and catchers just are not going to produce like

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<v Speaker 3>other positions, and they're not going to typically play every

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<v Speaker 3>day either. So I just generally I put Solace in

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<v Speaker 3>a way there as a point of his age, and

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<v Speaker 3>also just catchers, I just I don't like dynasty catchers

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<v Speaker 3>at all. For prospects. I would be fading them hard generally,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be selling them, especially when I see the

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<v Speaker 3>hype building like it is with Salas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know a lot of people that followed

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<v Speaker 1>me last year knew I was hype trained Ethan Solace.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got solved there should be because he's great well.

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<v Speaker 1>But also this is right around the time where it

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<v Speaker 1>was Solace versus Filman everyone's kind of jaded about the

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<v Speaker 1>j J fifteen class now and everyone just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with that. And I loved everything I saw with Solace.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is where I was pushing him as, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get him top seventy five, let's don't be scared,

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<v Speaker 1>get him now he's top twenty, and you referred to

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<v Speaker 1>my I have the prospect one P one ADP mocks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is over on my in this league Patreon. This

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<v Speaker 1>week is posted the ADP. Well, the ADP of him

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<v Speaker 1>is higher than you took him. It's inside the top twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So from a catcher value standpoint, here's a perspective I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you. He went at their lows he went, or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say at the highest the highest

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<v Speaker 1>he went. Ethan Salas was one pick away from the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest Jason Domingos win. So for perspective, you could trade

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan Salas pretty much as a one for one to

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<v Speaker 1>get Jason Domingoes. I'm a buyer of Jason Dimingez on

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<v Speaker 1>the injury for this year, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other guys in the same general range that you could

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<v Speaker 1>sell him for to get some pretty big stuff. He

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<v Speaker 1>went the highest he went was fourteen in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the leagues I put together, and Yamamoto went after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's a pitcher, But if you're in win now

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<v Speaker 1>versus there's just a lot of stuff you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do with the hype that's going to go

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<v Speaker 1>around with Ethan Sallas and it's not going away anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving over to first base, Christian in Carnacion Strand he

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<v Speaker 1>comes in. I stole you getting to announce him. What's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is he absolutely jumps off the page of expected

0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.920
<v Speaker 1>stats when you dig deeper, what the hard hit numbers,

0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.960
<v Speaker 1>barrel percentage and expected numbers did versus the production. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have him as a cell, yes, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>his approach scares me to death.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he is incredibly aggressive. He's going to swing

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and I don't really think that what

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<v Speaker 3>we saw at the major league level is necessarily going

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<v Speaker 3>to be something that we're going to see as being

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<v Speaker 3>as sustainable as I'd like, as you'd want to see

0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.960
<v Speaker 3>ol a first base only prospect. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of under there's plenty of underlying swing a miss

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<v Speaker 3>in this game as well with an aggressive approach. I

0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.720
<v Speaker 3>mean he may not right, you know, have massive strikeout

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<v Speaker 3>numbers because he's swinging all the time. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't love that type of profile. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of bust risk with him, especially on in an

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<v Speaker 3>organization that has an absolute crowd in the infield right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously they're likely to make a move, but

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<v Speaker 3>even after they trade someone like John Fan India, they're

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<v Speaker 3>still going to have a crowd and they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of mouths to feed, and there's just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be if he struggles, there's gonna be very little leash

0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:12.840
<v Speaker 3>that he will have this year. I think he will

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<v Speaker 3>go down to Triple A if he struggles out the gate,

0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.080
<v Speaker 3>and that scares me because once that happens, his dynasty

0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.359
<v Speaker 3>value is going to crash. Even if it's you know,

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.199
<v Speaker 3>typical sophomore you know struggles. You know, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>remember that's what happens typically with a lot of prospects,

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<v Speaker 3>especially prospects that have scary approaches like income Arci on Strand,

0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.399
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, the power is big, and he could be

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<v Speaker 3>like Frani early career, Famuel reeis in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>ways like he could have that kind of like he

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<v Speaker 3>could have that kind of value generation. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't love where he's going right now in Dynasty. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's some it's a point where there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of first basemen in that range that I feel more

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with, and the inn Redraft, for sure, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more first basement that go around him in Redraft

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel more comfortable with. So i'd be to

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<v Speaker 3>sell him right now, especially when there are people that

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<v Speaker 3>I know and really respect that love him and are

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 3>hyping him to the ceiling. So I mean, yeah, he

0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.720
<v Speaker 3>hits in a great park. I don't really think great

0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 3>American ballpark helps players as much like in Karnosiu and Strand,

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<v Speaker 3>as much as maybe others think. Because the power will

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<v Speaker 3>play anywhere, it helps those borderline guys that have borderline

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<v Speaker 3>power life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we did it. Look at that, we didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>play it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, help players like in constiuent Strand. So I don't

0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.080
<v Speaker 3>really mean yeah, he could hit thirty on runs. He

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<v Speaker 3>could also hit like two twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's so important is so funny. We both

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<v Speaker 1>run here, We're just gonna do this the whole show.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, what's what's interesting about that is, or the two

0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 1>important things you said, is his approach with the level.

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<v Speaker 2>Of talent that that team has is a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a risk. I do think a lot of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Underlying stuff tells the story of a hitter that can

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<v Speaker 1>put up thirty five homers and you know, can be

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<v Speaker 1>a middle of the order type of guy. But the

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<v Speaker 1>wiggle room does feel a little bit less. You know,

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 1>they were playing him, they played him in some third

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>last year in spring training, and they just did defensively.

0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was why he was held down to Defensively,

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're kind of stuck. Luckily they have a

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.200
<v Speaker 1>DH spot open, but if you go through some struggles,

0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they have so many pieces there that they can move

0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you in and out, especially if they still do have India.

0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 2>So there's a little bit of risk there. Take what

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<v Speaker 2>we said before too.

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.280
<v Speaker 1>You could probably get Goldschmidt plus for strand in a

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:35.240
<v Speaker 1>dynasty league, or find a perfect marriage between a team

0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that is trying to rebuild and a win now team.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have the opposite ends, you could find some

0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.440
<v Speaker 1>homes for that and plus more. Because that's not really

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>even necessarily capitalizing on it. For Cees number two, or

0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess the second base number two. The second base

0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 1>option you have here, I think screams Christian and Karnasio

0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and Strand at second base, except I don't know if

0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 1>there's viable options here. But talk to us about your

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<v Speaker 1>second base cell in Dynasty.

0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Exach Geloff second basement for the athletics. So he, I

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.200
<v Speaker 3>think is probably an odd sort of an obvious cell.

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:11.919
<v Speaker 3>I think there's gonna be a few that I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about tonight that should probably be obvious cells.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really seeing it in the industry. I'm not

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.439
<v Speaker 3>seeing it in practice. I think people are trying to

0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.640
<v Speaker 3>buy Bye Bye because for one, look, he legit has

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.640
<v Speaker 3>power and speed. The speed is very real. I think

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.560
<v Speaker 3>it's real, more real than anyone ever gave it credit

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 3>and credit for as a prospect. I mean, last year

0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.160
<v Speaker 3>between triple and Triple A in major leagues, he hit

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:43.040
<v Speaker 3>thirty four stolen bases on forty one attempts, and the

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 3>data all supports it. I mean, he can fly, and

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 3>he's a great base runner. He's had a massive track

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.160
<v Speaker 3>record of sole and bases, so I believe the speed.

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he definitely has a chance to be a

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty stone base threat easy this year, and the power

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 3>is pretty solid, right, He's not going to necessarily jump

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.439
<v Speaker 3>off the page with the evs. But he's been on

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 3>record saying that he doesn't look he can hit the

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.439
<v Speaker 3>ball really hard. He doesn't look to necessarily hit the

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.119
<v Speaker 3>ball into stratosphere, he said. He's said that, you know,

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 3>I could hit at one ten or I could hit

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.639
<v Speaker 3>one five and it's still a home run, you know.

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.119
<v Speaker 3>So there isn't much of a difference there. It just

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.919
<v Speaker 3>helps him, you know, kind of pick his spots. So

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.680
<v Speaker 3>he's a savvy hitter. But the big issue I've had

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 3>with him, and it's an ongoing issue, is there is

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 3>a massive amount of underlying swing and miss. His zoom

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 3>contact rate was seventy five point five percent, around seventy

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.879
<v Speaker 3>five percent last year. Actually, I think it was a

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 3>little lower than that, which is terrible. I mean, that's

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 3>very much below average. I think there's just scary amount

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 3>swinging miss. He's fairly aggressive hitter that is not necessarily

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 3>the doesn't necessarily thrive with like massive amounts of play

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.880
<v Speaker 3>discipline either. I think there's just a very real risk

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 3>that the average completely craters and falls on like through

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.360
<v Speaker 3>a floor. Yeah, there's power speed that's nice, and he's

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 3>going to have a lot of runway with the athletics.

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 3>But you know, some people are ranking him or valuing

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 3>on him as a top one hundred Dynasty player, and

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 3>if that's the case, I think you try and sell

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.919
<v Speaker 3>because I just don't think I think the risk is

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 3>too high given his underline screen miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and for perspective, when you were talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>zone contact percentage, Spencer Torkolsen, who hit like two twelve

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.439
<v Speaker 1>get next beaf like two thirty two, had like around

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.400
<v Speaker 1>eighty five percent zone contact percentage. So just like you're

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 1>running the perspectives of like, you know, there's a guy

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that has higher expected stats that had a bad batting average,

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you're gonna take you know, a higher early

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 1>performance to really bad zone contact percentage. That's worrisome. And

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Chase Ray, it's worrisome. He's a counting stats guy, but

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have like Matt McClain is a pretty common

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 1>player that you're either on one or two sides you're like, wow,

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>he well overperformed and he would be a sell or.

0:22:56.080 --> 0:23:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey listen, he's just scratching the surface. But he he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that has more floor as far

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>as his profile than a guy like Geloff, So I

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>agree with this one. Moving over to third base, we

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>are getting to a little bit of an older name.

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>We've had some young focus names, but we are focused

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.119
<v Speaker 1>on a player that is going to come into the

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>season injured.

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 2>So you're sell at third base.

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.720
<v Speaker 3>It's Bady Machado. He's going He's thirty one years old now,

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we've had many, many years of consistent

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 3>thirty home run production, including last year, So I just

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 3>think it's times this is a profile that's screaming massive

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 3>amounts of regression. Obviously last year he took a step

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 3>back offensively. I think generally there's just a lot of

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 3>underlying stuff here with Machado that's scary, including the injury.

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I think the skills are trending down, the home park

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 3>is not favorable, and this may be one of the

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 3>last opportunities to buy before he falls well outside the

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 3>top one hundred in Dynasty, because next year he'll be

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty two, and you know, as these players age further

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 3>into their thirties, there's their values just consistently go down.

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm less absent certain extraordinary circumstances, and I'm just very

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 3>leery of where I'm a child is going to be,

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 3>especially coming off a very serious injury and surgery, and

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I just it's a guy that I'm just off right now.

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Altogether, he had two things and you meant sell, you

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 1>said bye, but you meant the last sell.

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, he had the wrist.

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it was fracture at the beginning of the year,

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and then he just underwent like I think it was

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like a tennis elbow type.

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Of surgery in the off season. You don't love that.

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>You don't love those type of Sure, they could clean

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>everything up and we can get good to go. I

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:52.199
<v Speaker 1>lean a little bit more into the by category, but this,

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I think this one is a fine line. It's like,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 1>if he is being held at the top thirty or

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty five standard, then I think he's being overvalued and

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>you might be able to consolidate and may if you

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 1>could get I mean, I don't know how you personal

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>If you get Royce Lewis for Manny Machado and Dynasty,

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I would want that, yeah, But I'm saying like in

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>some league there might be that mentality where those don't

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>quite equate even CJ. Abrams, for all of his negatives

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>are positives. Whichever way you look at it, Abrams might

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>not be in some of that similar value as Machado,

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>so that it's an interesting side where you end up

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>taking this and you've taken this to another really interesting

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>spot at shortstop, and we're actually going to focus on

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>two of them. I'm going to focus on the top

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 1>guy though. This is the major league player. This is

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the biggest name we are going to talk about of

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.719
<v Speaker 1>any player in the Dynasty Cells today. So it's shortstop

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is who Tray Turner?

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 3>All right? So he's thirty years old now, a thirty

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 3>year old speedster, a player who relies a lot of

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 3>his value is derived from his speed. It's just scary.

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Once players hit their thirties, they typically start slowing down.

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 3>It's very clear there's a ton of evidence for that. Obviously,

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 3>he's still incredibly fast, but he's also hitting behind Kyle

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Schober in that Phillies lineup, and so the opportunities to

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 3>steal bases are limited anyway, so he just is going

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 3>to have less opportunity to use the speed. The biggest

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 3>concerns I have with Trace Hearner are the declining contact rates.

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I am always trying to pay attention to contact rates

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 3>because I think that they are very crucial for players

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 3>like Turner who do rely on a healthy amount of contact.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 3>His whiff rate jumped almost to thirty percent last year.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 3>His own contact rate was a career low at eighty

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 3>two point two percent, and he was, of course disastrous

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:53.640
<v Speaker 3>for the most part for the first half of the season.

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Just that final hot stretch to end the season kind

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 3>of completely saved this season. But you know, if that

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 3>cold stretch lasted longer, which it could in the future,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a player who could really see

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 3>his value completely crash and burn. And that is my

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 3>biggest concern with Tray Turner. I think the power and

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 3>speed expectations should be more limited than what we've seen

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 3>from him over the past past three years or so,

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and with the declining contact rates, he's not going to

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 3>hit for the averages that he's has hit for in

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the past. You know, last year hit two sixty six.

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think something along those lines is what

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 3>I would generally expect from him moving forward. So I

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 3>just think it's a little it's just a scary profile

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 3>for me, you know, he's still being drafted very high

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 3>in redrafted. I think then Dyacy generally you're going to

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 3>see a lot more a lot of hype still with him,

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 3>and I think he's a deaf. He's a player that

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 3>I would one hundred percent fade even more in OBP formats.

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 3>He's a player that I don't think people fade enough

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>in OBP formats because he's, you know, a very aggressive hitter.

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 3>He typically has you know, about fifty percentage point differential

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 3>between his average and OVP, which means he just has

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 3>far less impact in OBP formats generally, so I would

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 3>be I'm getting off of Turner. I don't dislike Turner.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 3>It always depends on the value you can get up

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 3>for him. But if he's getting valued as like a

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 3>borderline top twenty dynasty asset, I would be selling hard.

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, A move I made in redraft and I'm

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>posting my redeff ranks for posting this week on in

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>this league and they'll be over on Fantasy Pros probably

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>right around the same time, is I'm of Corey Seger

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>above Trey Turner in redraft leagues, and I know that

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>might not feel popular because of stolen bases. But there

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>are a few bats to me that are worthwhile sacrificing

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>stolen bases for Corey Seeger is one of them.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>And I made that move.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And when you're talking about Trey Turner's value, not even

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to compare a secer in him, but like you

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>could make a you could probably get a Jackson Holiday

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>plus deal done, and I know, like I know they'll

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>are going to feel relatively similar and similar in like

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>true dynasties. Funny enough, in the the Klegg Dynasty draft

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in, Turner went to eight and Jackson Holiday

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>went to nine. So it's not unfeasible feasible to think that,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like you could get a plus move on a win

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.719
<v Speaker 1>now team that doesn't you know that thinks they're selling

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on the hype of Jackson Holiday if you have some fear,

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so that is Trey Turner in there.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Turner's average draft position on those and those drafts

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 3>was twenty point one, so you know if he's being

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 3>valued at that that and this is an OBP draft,

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 3>mind you right, he should not be a top three

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>player period in OBP. In my mind, and even in

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>regular standard five by five, I would not take him

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 3>that high at twenty, So I just yeah, at his

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>current value, people are still like in love with the

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>name value. They're not recognizing, my mind, what's clear decline.

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm off the other one. I want to mention it.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the next three it's all gonna be

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>fun because Jesse is just absolutely crap on everybody's excitement hype.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>But the reason we're going to do this one real quick,

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>just a quick one on this is he showed up

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in the buy episode last week where Tim Kanak is

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>buying Jordan Lawler.

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 3>You're selling, I am, And again I want to say

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 3>it really depends on contexts because I think that if

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>people are value him as like a top five prospect,

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 3>I think you sell. But I've seen him being drafted

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>outside of like top ten in a lot of these drafts,

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 3>and I've actually gotten chairs of Lawler because of where

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 3>his value has been. It's been just like very reasonable,

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 3>way outside the top one hundred. I will buy it

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 3>all day at that value. But you know, I think

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 3>that if you're valuing him as like a top seventy,

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 3>top sixty dynasty asset or player, I think that that

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 3>is way too high. Now, his average draft position in

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>those max is eighty eight. That's not bad. Honestly, I

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 3>think that's not bad. But my biggest concern with Lawler

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 3>is I think that there is not as much impact

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 3>as I think some people expect or think there is there.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 3>The evs are far from impressive. I mean they're basically

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>borderline honestly. I mean, at the top end, EV's are

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 3>close to average, but generally on the whole, his evs

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 3>just don't jump off the page. There's just not a

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 3>ton of power. He's not a very big guy either.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>He's a speedster. I think that if you have the

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>expectation to think that maybe he could be Tray Turner,

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>which is what I kind of think he could be

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>like Trey Turner, obviously there's a massive risks there. Still

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 3>then that's fine. I think that that's a fine expectation

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 3>to still have with Lawler because I do really like

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the hit tool. I think it's something that some I

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 3>think that's it's interesting because you see so much mixed

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 3>opinion about his hit tool. But he does have a

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>very solid played approach. He makes a lot of contact,

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 3>But I really questioned where the impact ultimately lie. And

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 3>you know that kind of scares me away.

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that's where the risk is.

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's too early to process who he's going

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to be and where he's going to be, but you can,

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously you have to look at the data that's been there.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>He is a wildly successful minor league career. He did

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>really great in the areas in a fall league when

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>he was here, But there's been some injuries, he's there's

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely some questionable power stuff that's out there. He's an

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>aggressive base runner, though, so we'll see, We'll see where

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it goes and maybe really very real.

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought he could be a poor man's Bobby Witt,

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the best case scenario. But it

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>might be instead of thirty fifty like Bobby Witt, it's

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>like twenty thirty with a two fifty two to sixty

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>batting average, And that might be the high and that

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that is what he would be very good.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what you would bank on him being.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Like a top sixty or seventy player if you believe

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be the case. And the hit tool

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>does speak to it all, right, last two, this is

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about. Any of that hype you're

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>getting for this season, it's going to go out the window,

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>as Jesse is going to take your favorite outfielder, as

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>they know he is a cell.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>So let's hear it.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Nolan Jones, which again I'm gonna say is interesting since

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I did draft him in that cleg mack, but it

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 3>was an OBIP mock. I really do still think Nolan Jones.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 3>He's just gotten far more valuable in OBP formats generally.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>So my big concerns with him are similar to what

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 3>you what I said with Gelaf. The contact is incredibly scary. Uh.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>The zone contact for Nolan Jones was seventy one point

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>five percent this past year in the major league level.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that that contact rate, married with his patient approach,

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 3>is just a recipe for massive amounts of strikeouts. I

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>think you know a three true outcomes player. If you

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 3>have that expectation, that's perfectly fine. But I think that

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 3>he also had the highest batting average of balls and

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 3>play if any player at the major league level last

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 3>year with like three hundred play appearances or something, it

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 3>was over four hundred. I think you have to very

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 3>heavily regress his batting average. I think if the batting

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 3>average falls fifty points, I think that is, you know,

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 3>would be a good day. Honestly, if he's hitting two

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>forty seven or two fifty, I'd be happy with that production.

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 3>But I think many people might not be. And I

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 3>think that some projections of that I'm seeing, the earlier

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 3>projections I think are a little bit too positive with

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 3>his batting average. Now I get the course field effect.

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>The course field effect gives you inflated batting average, your

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 3>balls in play, and you're gonna hit for a higher average. Generally,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 3>that means you're going to be putting balls in play,

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 3>which is the big problem with Nolan Jones, because he,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I think there's a real chance that

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 3>we could see, you know, easily forty percent of his

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 3>play appearances or strikehouse or walks or more. I could

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 3>see that very easily. And that means he's putting balls

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.280
<v Speaker 3>less balls in play, which means he's not taking advantage

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 3>of the course field effect as much as he as

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you want to see players take advantage of us like,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.439
<v Speaker 3>so far, be as aggressive as you want put those

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>balls in play. Uh, you're not gonna see it from

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Roland Jones. Now, the power is very real. I really

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 3>do buy the speed breakout in a lot all the ways.

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a chance he's a twenty twenty player,

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>but like Zach Giloff, he might be a twenty tour

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 3>player who hits you know, thirty.

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Forty one hundred percent agree.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I do not believe the average is at a high,

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 1>high level. I think this is like a I want

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to say Schwarber, but I think the levels of averaged

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>OBP could be similar. I think this is like two

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>forty on a good year with like a three eighty OBP.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the type of guy that he can be,

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 1>which is great for OBP leagues, but standard head head

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>roto leagues. I just don't think the average is going

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to get there, and I think that's what makes him tough.

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think an OBP. I really actually like his value,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 3>but I think it's standard, uh like average five by

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 3>five leagues.

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I do not final one.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>How about a pitcher and how about a bitcher that

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody is excited about. I'm gonna be honest with you,

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>the more I've dug in for this year, I think

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the hype makes all the sense, and I want to

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>buy it is a little alarming when I see his rank,

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>or I do a show with Scott White and he

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>talks about Tarik Schooble, who I'm going to break here,

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>But I I feel like I know the general consensus

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of where you're going to go as far as hype.

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But tell us why you are selling Treek Schooble in Dynasty.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, the hype's wild. He's wild, wild wild wild. He

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 3>average draft position I believe in redraft is like top fifty,

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>which is wild to me.

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Scott having at SP nine.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, we have to remember last year he

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't throw many innings, so you know how many innings

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 3>are going to be allowed He's going to be even

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 3>allowed to throw this year? I think it's open question.

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 3>You know. I think that maybe one fifty. Uh you know,

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 3>I think if you're expecting him to go like one

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 3>eighty this year, I think that is hoping. It's kind

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 3>of like a little bit too optimistic in my mind. Now,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 3>there's a lots alike with Tarik school ball, and I

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 3>do like him a lot. I think that if he's

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 3>being drafted in reach raft as a top fifty player,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 3>that means in a lot of Dynasty formats, he's going

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 3>to be potentially drafted as like a top forty player

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 3>because he's much younger than a lot of the pitchers

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 3>that would typically be drafted ahead of him. You know,

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 3>he of course was fantastic in his debut, all right,

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>So his average draft position in these dynasty dugout ADP

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 3>was sixty two. So you know that's where we're seeing

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>him right now generally in dynasty. So my big problem

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>with scoot Ball is I really don't like his fastball.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 3>His fastball's something that he was actually known for when

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 3>he was coming up as a prospect, but his fastball

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>shape is not good. What made it more viable this

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 3>past year is his big velocity games. You know, his

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>fastball lass he jumped like one point five miles an

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 3>hour coming off of you know, serious arm injury. And

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 3>how he's whether he's going to be able for one,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 3>maintained that type of velocity over a full season and

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 3>two actually as successful as he was. I think it's

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 3>really questionable. I think given the fastball shape, I don't

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 3>even know if it's an average pitch that you know,

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 3>if you look at stuff plus grades for his fastball,

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 3>it's below average. It's you know a borderline pitch. I

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 3>think it's better than I think what stuff plus is

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 3>giving it credit for, but still just not It punches

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 3>way below it's velocity. It's average velocity last year was

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>ninety five point eight miles an hour. Is a sinker

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 3>was ninety five point nine. Where I do think, I

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 3>really like Scoop and I think where he can shine

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 3>is his change up is fantastic. I've all I've been

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 3>a fan of his change up since he kind of

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 3>was able to retool it in twenty I believe it

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 3>was twenty twenty.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>What year was that, twenty twenty one or is it

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty?

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 3>It was twenty twenty two, very legitimately retooled his change

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 3>there like it was a new pitch. I really loved

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 3>it that year, and it's it's been as good, if

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 3>not better than that, this year this past So I

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 3>really do think the change ups good. I think the

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>change is going to allow the fastball to play a

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 3>lot better than it it really is. In actuality, he

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 3>made a lot of strides with his slider. His slider

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 3>is profiling a lot better now. It's missing bats at

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 3>a much better rate too.

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:20.720
<v Speaker 2>But the big butts come in here. But let's see.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 3>But but the fastball is just not I think going

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 3>to be a successful pitch, and it scares me. And

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that if you if he if the fastball

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Vlosi comes down to even what it was before, I

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 3>think we're just going to see a much different pitcher.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 3>It's still gonna be a quality are mind you, But

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 3>I think he's not a top fifty guy.

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Who would you rather have a dynasty Grayson Rodriguez.

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Or school ball Grace and Rodriguez.

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Easy Senga or Schooball school You know what interesting is

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>both went ahead of drink schoobl in the MUCKs that

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>we're referencing here.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.240
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, very very interesting.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>His hype is at the biggest.

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>That I can recall. But do as you will.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Those are some dynasty buys from Jesse wrote follow him

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter.

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 2>At j A wrote R O C H E six.

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>You can also catch them over at Baseball Perspectives. What's

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 2>going on? What do you got to plug here?

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you got going on in the near future?

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Pods writing what's happening right now?

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 3>We're doing the top ten or the top top prospect

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 3>lists for each team, and I'm adding the fantasy takes

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 3>for each of the players, including a reckless comp for

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 3>each player. I try to, like, I spend a lot

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of time on it's weird you're coming through baseball players.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 3>What did you just do?

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>What team did you just do?

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I just did the Brewers?

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, give me your reckless comp for Cooper Pratt?

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 3>We actually so he wasn't in their top ten. So

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I only do the.

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Top lasphemis the last famis they don't have Cooper Pratt

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:45.439
<v Speaker 1>in their top ten.

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Mate, honestly, I agree, don't. I don't make their rankings.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 3>It's a you know, real life based rankings. But like

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 3>their bottom their number ten was Daniel Gillarty, and I

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't put him in top ten for example, to.

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Be above him.

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 1>What if you recall, like one of the most ridiculous comps,

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you gave your reckless comp of any of anybody?

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess on the Brewers, I think Jackson Trio

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 3>could be another Julio Rodriguez. I think that's uh. Then

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I have like Jefferson Quero is Jan Gomes. So I

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 3>just call that reckless. But it just shows you catching prospects. Man.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Don't expect a lot from them.

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>No, and Cuero got a bunch of hype. Jesse Roach

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Baseball Perspectives. Follow him on Twitter, one of the best.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a must follow in the Dynasty world. Thank you

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>so much for hanging with us and giving us players

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to sell here in Dynasty.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Thanks a lot, man, and there you go.

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Thank you to Jesse Roach for taking the time to

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>join me in talking about all those sell some great names.

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Some I agree, some I disagree, and that's all good.

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>You guys can let us know what you think always

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>over in the discord. You can tweet at me at

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.000
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0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And hopefully, as we are doing this episode right before Christmas,

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>have a fantastic holiday. We will probably have one episode

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>off next week with the Christmas week, and then we

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>will be kicking it hard in twenty twenty four. I

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.439
<v Speaker 1>got a full schedule of stuff on the dock at,

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.000
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0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.400
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