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Speaker 2: Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft.

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Speaker 2: And last offseason we had a bunch of the assistant

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Speaker 2: And I'm excited to bring that back this year. And

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Speaker 2: so I welcome in Cameron Davis, assistant defensive line coach

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Speaker 2: back and looking at your kind of you rise to

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Speaker 3: think about where I started where I am now. I

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Speaker 3: One word violence. I want to have the most violent

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Speaker 2: Another guy who made a body kind of transformation this offseason,

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean. So there's not many guys like

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Speaker 3: the players and whatnot to turn things around. No one

436
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: ever stopped believing in themselves. You know, I remember very vividly.

437
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 3: I can't remember going into Green Bay. Excuse me. We

438
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Speaker 3: had a really good week of practice, really good week

439
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Speaker 3: of preparation. It would have been easy for guys to

440
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 3: kind of just turn it in and just say whatever. No,

441
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 3: we're out there being physical, having competitive practices, guys flying around,

442
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 3: guys trying to get better, and obviously it turned out

443
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 3: very well for us. And I think having that success

444
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Speaker 3: in ending the season on such a high, I note

445
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Speaker 3: they understand the expectation, you know what I mean, there's

446
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,199
Speaker 3: a certain there's a price to being successful that you

447
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 3: cannot escape from, and so you got to pay your dues,

448
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 3: you gotta put in the work and whatnot. I think

449
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 3: everybody understands that, and everybody's just really excited about the

450
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Speaker 3: opportunity to go out and just be great.

451
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Speaker 2: How much do you guys like up front looking back

452
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Speaker 2: behind you seeing guys like C. J. Gardner Johnson, seeing

453
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Speaker 2: guys like Cam Sutton. Yeah, you know mostly will be

454
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Speaker 2: out there soon enough. But look past rush in this

455
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: league is a marriage between rush and cover. You know

456
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 2: that better than anyone else. And so to be what

457
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 2: everyone expects to be markedly better in the secondary, how

458
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Speaker 2: big can that be for you guys up front as well?

459
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Speaker 3: I think it'd be great for everybody. I mean not

460
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Speaker 3: just what we have up front, but the entire defensive

461
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Speaker 3: unit and the entire team. Obviously, we did a lot

462
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Speaker 3: of things in free agency and in the draft, going

463
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Speaker 3: out and getting some quality guys to help our back

464
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Speaker 3: back and roster. And from that perspective, I'm really excited,

465
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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I'm excited about Cam, I'm excited

466
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 3: about I Man, I'm excited about Branch. I'm excited about Kirby.

467
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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Tracy coming back as well too.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, we got guys out there, we got CJ

469
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Speaker 3: as well too. You know, I'm I'm really excited to

470
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Speaker 3: see what all those what all those guys are able

471
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Speaker 3: to do out there on the field.

472
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Speaker 2: And I think fans are excited to see what your

473
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Speaker 2: guys up front can do too. Obviously we saw it

474
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Speaker 2: with with with Aiden, but you know, guys like Commish

475
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: Pascal going into second year, a leam Brodick. It looks

476
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Speaker 2: like you've got some guys that can really contribute. You

477
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 2: look pretty versatile up there, can play a lot of

478
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Speaker 2: different fronts, do a lot of different things. Excited about this.

479
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Speaker 3: Screw excited as an understatement, you know, I think just

480
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: obviously again where we ended the season, where we started

481
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Speaker 3: the season, and just understanding what we can be. You know,

482
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Speaker 3: I think I'm really excited to just put in the work,

483
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I want to get to camp.

484
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Speaker 3: I want to get to practice, ots and veterment and

485
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Speaker 3: camp and just start putting that that laying the foundation

486
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Speaker 3: for this upcoming season, because I think we have a

487
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Speaker 3: chance to be really good and get the pads on. Yeah,

488
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: let's see nine on seven, Let's see you know, team

489
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: run and all that kind of stuff. I'm really excited

490
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Speaker 3: about that.

491
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Speaker 2: I fans are excited for that. To Camera Davis, thanks

492
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Speaker 2: for joining me, taking the time. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented

494
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Speaker 2: by Microsoft, and I am very happy to welcome in

495
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Speaker 2: Ali McNeil, defensive tackle for the Detroit Lions. And Alim,

496
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Speaker 2: you're entering year three. You've got a new defensive line

497
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Speaker 2: coach in John Scott Junior. Now Camera Davis was here,

498
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Speaker 2: you know, he returns as the assistant. Just what's what's

499
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Speaker 2: what's been the biggest difference with with with John Scott

500
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Speaker 2: in there? What what what's been kind of his message

501
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Speaker 2: to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know kind of how like what you're saying

503
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Speaker 5: with cameras talking about, you know, with violence and the

504
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 5: way we attacked the field and the way we're just

505
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Speaker 5: gonna play this year. It's gonna be you know, a

506
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 5: whole new demeanor about us and everything. But with Coach Scott,

507
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 5: he's been great so far. What he what we've done

508
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: so far is we've gone back to the beginning and

509
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 5: then we've broken everything down as far as like plays, concepts,

510
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 5: stuff like that, technique and stuff like that. He's a

511
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Speaker 5: real he's a teacher. Coach Scott is a teacher like

512
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Speaker 5: to the most. You could go on to anybody going

513
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Speaker 5: there and you'll be a great dealma when you leave

514
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Speaker 5: out of there. He teaches really good. But our message

515
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 5: right now is just violence consistency. But you know we're

516
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Speaker 5: still in like our training phase right now too, so

517
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Speaker 5: we're trying to get our bodies right, trying to get

518
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Speaker 5: in shape. But right now our word of the year

519
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Speaker 5: would be violence.

520
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Speaker 2: Is that hard because the violence of you know the

521
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Speaker 2: message of violence, violence, And then you go to an

522
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Speaker 2: Ota practice which we watch and it's you know, you

523
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Speaker 2: can't be violent, there's rules. You know you've got to

524
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Speaker 2: you know, just got is this a hard time because

525
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Speaker 2: you want to get the pads on, you want to

526
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: strap it up so much, But you just have to

527
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: understand that it's a process and and OTAs and this

528
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Speaker 2: are part of that.

529
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Speaker 5: No, yeah for sure, because like you just said, you like,

530
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Speaker 5: I mean for us as far as d Lineman, you

531
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 5: can't really get off the ball like you want to

532
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 5: right now, just because you can't really be physical like that.

533
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Speaker 6: So but it kind of goes against it.

534
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Speaker 5: But you just got to say, yeah, I have it

535
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Speaker 5: in your head, Like mentally you got to know, like, okay,

536
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Speaker 5: on this play, I know I can get my hands

537
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 5: here and I'm doing this on this play. You just

538
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 5: got to go through the mental gymnastics of it. Yeah,

539
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 5: without being too physical right now. But once we throw

540
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Speaker 5: in the paths, there'll be no excuses violence.

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Speaker 2: That seems like a good mantra to half up front,

542
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Speaker 2: because I fits your game to a t, doesn't it.

543
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Speaker 5: You have to be I mean, if you're not playing violent,

544
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 5: you're not playing dy lion.

545
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Speaker 6: Like you have to create disruption, you have.

546
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Speaker 2: To How does the body transformation that you went through

547
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Speaker 2: this offseason. You really dedicated yourself to diet. You said

548
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Speaker 2: you want to be a little more professional this offseason,

549
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Speaker 2: and you had seen guys around the league at your position,

550
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Speaker 2: consistently making plays and obviously you've been a playmaker here,

551
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Speaker 2: but you said, I want to be one of those guys.

552
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Speaker 2: I want to every play consistently be one of those guys,

553
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Speaker 2: one of those top interior defenders. So you know, you diet,

554
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Speaker 2: the stretching has been important to you. You've lost how

555
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: much percentage in your body fat? You've lost twenty percent

556
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Speaker 2: of your body fat.

557
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Speaker 4: That's thirteen percent thirteen But still.

558
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Speaker 2: That's that's a big number. I mean, you were at

559
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Speaker 2: three twenty five. So I know you said earlier you

560
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Speaker 2: you're planning to kind of play around that way. But

561
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Speaker 2: but what is what's been the difference just in terms

562
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Speaker 2: of what you felt now that you've returned to the

563
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Speaker 2: field in ot is what you've you've seen from yourself?

564
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Speaker 2: Just how is that transformation kind of transferred over to

565
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Speaker 2: the football field.

566
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Speaker 5: No, I just feel like an athlete a game like.

567
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Speaker 5: I just feel a lot better now, you know, I'm

568
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Speaker 5: just being able to do different things now And as

569
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Speaker 5: far as cause last year sometimes I'd be limited just

570
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Speaker 5: due to like some flexibility regions, and you know, with

571
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Speaker 5: me stretching now and I'm not you know, yoga and

572
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: constructing now. But I've gotten a lot more flexible with

573
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Speaker 5: how I'm able to move in different movements and stuff.

574
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Speaker 6: And I've seen a carryover.

575
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Speaker 5: You know, the coaches have told me about it as well,

576
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Speaker 5: But I just feel like better, I'm able to move

577
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: and band a lot differently now, get into different positions,

578
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 5: play things differently.

579
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Speaker 6: It's just a lot better from here.

580
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Speaker 2: Low man wins exactly right, I mean, And so that's

581
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: the biggest thing, right is being able to maybe you know,

582
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: get lower than the office line, push him back some

583
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: pass rush ability. You think that's gonna be added to

584
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: your game as well because of this this this.

585
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Speaker 5: This is what the transformation was for, if I'm really

586
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Speaker 5: honest with you, is to be able to rest that

587
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 5: passion like I want to. But that's what really what

588
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 5: the transfermers for, just so I could be able a

589
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 5: better football player for the Lions, you know, be able

590
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Speaker 5: to do everything they need me to do.

591
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Speaker 2: So you played a little more than four hundred snaps

592
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Speaker 2: as a rookie last year, that number was over seven hundred.

593
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Speaker 2: I mean, you played seventy percent of the snaps. How

594
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: do you think that will translate to just the energy

595
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: being able to play a lot more snaps to a

596
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter being still at your best? Is that part

597
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: of the transformation to a lean.

598
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Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent.

599
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Speaker 5: You know those definitely those fourth quarter moments, but just

600
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 5: being able to play throughout the game because you know,

601
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: breathing hard and worried about catching your breath and stuff

602
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 5: like that. Just being able to play, you know, nothing's

603
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: limited me and all in the way. I just want

604
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 5: to like, like you're saying, I just want to be

605
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 5: able to play. If I have to play every snap

606
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 5: of the game, I want to be able to do that,

607
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 5: you know. So I just want to make sure I'm

608
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: in tip top shape as best as I can be.

609
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Speaker 2: We saw that transformation you made from year one to

610
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Speaker 2: year two. Talk about that being a real thing, and

611
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Speaker 2: what do you expect with guys like Aiden Hutchinson, James Houston,

612
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: Josh Pascal, guys who are now going into their second year.

613
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Speaker 2: How much more comfortable did you feel in year two?

614
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Speaker 2: And is that really a thing for players? And why

615
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: is that?

616
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Speaker 5: I mean that first year you come in, you've never

617
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 5: seen an NFL game, so the speed of it is

618
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 5: beyond crazy. And now the fact that James and you know, Aiden,

619
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 5: they had Almo. They didn't had what is it, nine

620
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 5: and a half and James had nine eight and a

621
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: half And the fact that they had that their first

622
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 5: year in the game was super fast, and I just

623
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 5: about to slow down for him. I really don't know

624
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: what to say, but I think it's Josh is well.

625
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 5: But I really think they're gonna have great year just

626
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 5: because it's gonna slow down. That's a real thing, I

627
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: promise you. But it's gonna be great. Mentally, they know

628
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 5: a lot of things now. They got seventeen games under

629
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 5: the belt now, right, so you know, it's just gonna

630
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 5: slow down for him, and it's gonna be It's gonna.

631
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Speaker 2: Be Axcitan commissiary signs you get bugs back. We talked

632
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: about Houston, Hutch Pascal, you know, some of the other

633
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: guys up front. Just what are the expectations for the

634
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: for this defensive line. It was such a young group

635
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: last year, but but now those young guys have shown

636
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: that they can make plays. Now, veteran guys like yourself,

637
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: you're getting into your prime in year three, what's the

638
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: expectation for that front? Yeah?

639
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean personally, we have a huge expectations in ourselves.

640
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: You know, we want to be able to control and

641
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: dictate what's going on, you know, because it starts with

642
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: us in the in the trench. It starts with the

643
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: D line first and it works your way back, and

644
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: we just want to be able to control what's going

645
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 5: on in the game.

646
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 6: Like we feel like we have the ability to do that.

647
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 5: Obviously this is the NFL, you know, the players on

648
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: the other side, But we just want to be able

649
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: to control going on. I think we have the ability

650
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: and talent the players should do that. We just want to, like,

651
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 5: we just want to certain dominance.

652
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Speaker 2: You said, it starts up front, works it way, works

653
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: its way back when you look at some of the

654
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: additions that they've made to the back, getting guys like C. J. Gardner, Johnson,

655
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: Cam Sutton, Emmanuel Moseley, And how much does that make

656
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: you smile a little bit because you know just as

657
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: well as me that when you're talking about past rush

658
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: in the NFL, it's it's a marriage between rush and cover.

659
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: And it looks like you guys have improved improved the

660
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: back end of that so much that that can only

661
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: help you guys out.

662
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 5: Because we've added just straight dogs back there, not even

663
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 5: just talking about their game just there mentally, and their

664
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 5: attitude on the field has changed us so much as

665
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 5: a defense because I'm listening to CJ and Cam and

666
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: them back their high energy, just talking trash or whatever

667
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 5: it is, and it just gets me going. Yeah, so

668
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: not even football wise, they're getting me going. But it's

669
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna be crazy to see, especially with those

670
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: guys locking people up like that.

671
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: SoJ back there, right. I can just tell from watching

672
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: one Ota practice that he's dancing around, he's talking. He's

673
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: the one that that kind of is bringing that fire

674
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: back there.

675
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 6: That number two he deserves that. He's that guy. He's

676
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 6: that guy.

677
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: You played nose obviously a lot early. You played some

678
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: three technique last year. They kind of want to move

679
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: you around a little bit. I think this body transformation

680
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: is really gonna going to help your ability to do that.

681
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 2: But getting a guy like Broderick Martin and that that

682
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: has experienced playing the nose, will that allow you to

683
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: free up maybe.

684
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: Move around a little bit too?

685
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: And what have you seen from Broderick early on?

686
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: I think so.

687
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: I think it allowed me to be able to move

688
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 5: around a little bit, you know, But what I've seen

689
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 5: from Roger early on. Roger's super strong, He's instinctive, he

690
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: uses his hands in his length. Roderick has really really

691
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: crazy length. Once he gets his hands on somebody, he's

692
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: up at extent. I don't know if anybody in the

693
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 5: league were able to get a hand on him because

694
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: his arms just are long. But you know, he's he's

695
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: a hard worker, he's he's learning a lot, and we're

696
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: pretty much the same age, so it's kind of weird

697
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 5: for me to try to tell or Brojer to do stuff.

698
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 5: But he's coming along good. And he's learned to playbook

699
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: like the back of his hand, So like he's coming

700
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: along really, really good.

701
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Though the expectations of Leam are much more than you

702
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: were probably used to at this time in the season,

703
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: your first and second year. I mean, you look at

704
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 2: just the schedule of the four prime time games, the

705
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: five national televised games. You guys are starting the season

706
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: the first game of the year in Kansas City. Does

707
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: it feel different? Is there a different feel in the

708
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: building just because of the expectations. You guys have always

709
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: had obviously big expectations for yourselves, but now it's outside

710
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: the building, it's nationally too. Do you guys feel.

711
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: That, I would say personally no, because we, like you said,

712
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: we already have big expectations for ourselves. I mean, we

713
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: have bigger expectations than what anybody could imagine. But I mean,

714
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: do you do when you don't in a way, I

715
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 5: mean in a way you're not really supposed to be

716
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: kind of into that, you know, into the media stuff.

717
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: But it is there, the hype is there. But we're

718
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 5: just working right now. You know, we're not even we're

719
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 5: not focused on that. We're working right now. We're trying

720
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: to get to that point. So when we play that

721
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: first game of the year, we're on it. We're on it,

722
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 5: and we're doing what we need to do. So you

723
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: feel that you don't.

724
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit and there's certainly excitement around. Let's

725
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about your off season. Did you

726
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: get into anything this off seat? I know you're huge

727
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: into music, You got any you got some new.

728
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: Music coming out? Did you travel at all?

729
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: What was the.

730
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 6: A little bit.

731
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Speaker 5: I was really just at home now in North Carolina,

732
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 5: just trying to get you know, get in the body right.

733
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 5: But as far as music, I did drop an album.

734
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 5: It's called for the label.

735
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Where can people find it.

736
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Speaker 5: It's on Alpum Music Spotify. I haven't dropped it on

737
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 5: sound yet, but it's on YouTube as well. The links

738
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: are in my bio on Instagram and my Twitter through

739
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: my link tree.

740
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, and that's what you're passionate about, Yeah, a

741
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: little bit.

742
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 6: It's it's just something fun to do.

743
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: Like if I'm you know, not here and I'm not

744
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: studying or something, I just got some time, why not

745
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 5: just go make it some long right click or something,

746
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: or just do something I already have wrote down.

747
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: But it's just funny.

748
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: I wish more people could like really understand and like

749
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: do it one day, Like if you're gonna make a song,

750
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: you're like, okay, it's just not that. It's not that hard,

751
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: something fun to do, and then who's gonna like your

752
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 5: music better than you?

753
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 6: Nobody.

754
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: That's all I.

755
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: Listened to on the way here, and when I leave

756
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: it was me. So yeah, it's just something fun to do.

757
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, for the label. It's on Apple Music Spotify,

758
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 5: so it was all engineered and everything here in uh, Michigan.

759
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: So we'll go check that out. You know, when you

760
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: walked in, when I saw you on the field, obviously, earlier,

761
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: and then you walk in the studio, you can tell

762
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: that the transformation that you made, you put a lot

763
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: of work in thirteen percent body fat reduction. That's that's

764
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: quite a bit for a guy as big as you,

765
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to translate to the field

766
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Speaker 2: and I think there's some big things in your future

767
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: for year three. So thanks for joining me. I know

768
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: people are excited to see this new Vamp defense and

769
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: you anchor in the center of it. Appreciate you, Lanker

770
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Speaker 6: Said, you having me on all right, for sure,