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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. So let's talk a little bit about Tesla

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, Mark, How did he get so smart?

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Speaker 1: How did this happen? He studied. I think he also

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Speaker 1: had very powerful identic imagry. He was able to run

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Speaker 1: machines in his mind. He had a tremendous creative imagination.

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Speaker 1: You know, he had had body experiences too when he

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Speaker 1: was a kid, traveling, clairvoyance, that kind of thing. But

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Speaker 1: he also studied, and you know, he's the whole idea

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Speaker 1: of standing on the shoulder of giants. He studied different

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Speaker 1: people you know that stood before him, Newton and Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: He had Maxwell's book his whole life. There's you know,

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Speaker 1: books out now. Said he didn't understand Maxwell's equations. He

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Speaker 1: was a genius of mathematical equations. Oh my god. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd compare him to Einstein. I think that the sad

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Speaker 1: thing is is that Tesla did not believe in the

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Speaker 1: theory of relativity, and he died, you know, in nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty three. I wished he had lived to might say

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Speaker 1: forty six or forty seven, so he had seen he

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Speaker 1: would have seen the atom bomb. He had split atoms,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't split the nucleus, so he thought that

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Speaker 1: Einstein was completely wrong. He didn't understand that splitting the

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Speaker 1: nucleus was what could cause a nuclear reactions. So was

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Speaker 1: Tesla wrong or was he just misinformed? It was apples

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Speaker 1: and oranges. He was definitely wrong because he was definitely

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Speaker 1: splitting atoms. He said, I split atoms will all the time,

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Speaker 1: and I don't have any nuclear reactions, and he was

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Speaker 1: right about that, but he wasn't splitting the nucleus, so

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Speaker 1: he was right, but he was also wrong. How did

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Speaker 1: he split atoms at that time? If you create like

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Speaker 1: a hundred million volts, you will you can change, you know,

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Speaker 1: you separate the electrons from from the atoms, and you

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Speaker 1: you'll split atoms. You change, you know, you change the atoms.

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Speaker 1: So he really did split atoms. Tesla would have loved

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Speaker 1: to have seen us go to the moon and everything

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Speaker 1: else that we're doing right now. Yeah, he he, You know,

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Speaker 1: he lives so much into the future. It's so sad

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Speaker 1: when he's dealing with Morgan and he's saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: give me the money to complete my power, and I

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Speaker 1: will advance the world a century. He is the inventor

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Speaker 1: of cell phone technology, the ability to create an unlimited

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Speaker 1: number of wireless channels. I haven't called it the prophetic

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Speaker 1: genius patent. What he did was he multiplied frequencies. UH.

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Speaker 1: Marconi at the time, all he could do is send

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Speaker 1: dots and dashes Tesla. It's Tesla waves that we use,

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Speaker 1: you know, to transmit information, you know, pictures and voice

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Speaker 1: and power or the Tesla waves, not the Marconi waves.

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Speaker 1: So Marconi had to he had to pirate Tesla's apparatus

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Speaker 1: in order to have you know, wireless telephone. It was

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Speaker 1: all based on Tesla's invention. And now he's got a

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Speaker 1: car company named after him. Yeah. And the reason that

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Speaker 1: the car company evolved was because they read an article

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Speaker 1: the Tesla wrote in nineteen o four about having an

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Speaker 1: electric instead of a guessolene engine, having you know, electric motor,

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Speaker 1: it'd be a lot more efficient. That's what led you know,

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Speaker 1: the two fellows who invented the Tesla Rhodes to UH

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Speaker 1: was all based on Tesla. That's why they named it

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Speaker 1: the Tesla Roadster. And when Elon Musk brought the company,

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Speaker 1: he was he actually toyed with the idea of removing

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Speaker 1: Tesla's name from it because he wasn't a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Tesla, you know, in the beginning, he was a

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Speaker 1: fan of Edison's. Why did the government raid Tesla's office

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Speaker 1: after he died, Well, he had secret papers he was

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Speaker 1: negotiating with. I recently got involved with declassified papers from

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. He was actually negotiating with Joseph Stalin.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's not good, but he was trying to but

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Speaker 1: they were allies that you know, during World War not

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Speaker 1: in the beginning of the war, but they eventually were

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Speaker 1: our allies. But he was trying to sell his particle,

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Speaker 1: the weapon to the Soviets. He he actually got twenty

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars from them, and he was negotiating with

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Speaker 1: the British Empire. I've got the names of the generals

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Speaker 1: that he was involved with. And also, you know, I

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Speaker 1: was in the show The Tesla Files, and when we

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Speaker 1: made the show, we discovered an actual letter signed by

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Speaker 1: f Dru saying I want to meet with Tesla, you know,

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Speaker 1: give me the lowdown on Tesla. And this was in

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, just a couple of days before Tesla died.

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Speaker 1: So I think what was happening at that time. I

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Speaker 1: think they were looking at two different powerful weapons, and

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Speaker 1: Did he know Edison? Yeah, test the work for Redicin,

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Speaker 1: Oh he did, Okay. Did he like him? Well, he

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Speaker 1: worked for him. He looked up to him because Edison

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Speaker 1: was like a god. Edison had a machine that could

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Speaker 1: tried to talk Edison into into using alternating current. And

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Speaker 1: Edison was so rooted in the direct current. How can

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Speaker 1: you make a current that's going in two different two

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Speaker 1: directions at once a thousands and times a second go

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Speaker 1: in one direction. Edison, though a Tesla was nuts and

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Speaker 1: basically you know, they didn't get along. So he left

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Speaker 1: in a huff. And only later they become friends again

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Speaker 1: when when we realized Tesla was right, didn't he eventually yes,

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Speaker 1: and I said they had allowed me to respect. Later,

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Speaker 1: when Tesla's laboratory burned to the ground in nineteen in

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Speaker 1: eighteen ninety five, Edison lent Tesla his laboratory until he

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Speaker 1: found his own laboratory. So they were enemies during the

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Speaker 1: War of the Currents, but then later they became friends.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable now when he when he died and again they

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Speaker 1: rated his files. What in your You're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: speculate on this mark, But what do you think was

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Speaker 1: were in there. One is, you know, he had a

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Speaker 1: patent on the on the helicopter airplane. He called it

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Speaker 1: the Flivver planet. If you look at if you look

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Speaker 1: the osprey and you know on Google it, you won't

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Speaker 1: see Tesla's name in there. They hid the fact that

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Speaker 1: there was that they was based on his stuff. They

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Speaker 1: sat on his papers for ten years. That's partly what

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Speaker 1: we did in the television show The Tesla Files was

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what papers they sat on. One

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Speaker 1: thing we found was that the OSS was very interested

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Speaker 1: in Tesla's papers. And I discovered this guy, his name

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Speaker 1: is Willis George. He was a thief that that was

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Speaker 1: hired by the OSS and he would go into different

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Speaker 1: guys who went in with John G. Trump, you know

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Speaker 1: President Trump's uncle h When when they looked through Tesla's

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Speaker 1: papers and sat on them for ten years. And so

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Speaker 1: why would they send a thief in to look through

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Speaker 1: Tesla's papers? Um? So it's like the water game Burglars, right, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's really a fascinating story, is to you know what

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Speaker 1: things that they they hid from us? And one of

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Speaker 1: them was the particle being weapon. Um. Then, as I said,

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Speaker 1: been into this, you know, nineteen seventy six, it was

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Speaker 1: first place? Mark? Well it it was called a death ray,

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Speaker 1: but it really was a tiny, tiny little particles. What

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Speaker 1: Tesla understood was that a ray would spread out and

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Speaker 1: lose all of its power, So how could you get

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Speaker 1: it to maintain its power? So he came up with

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Speaker 1: these tiny little pellets made out of tungsten. And you

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Speaker 1: used repulsion as a way to send out these tiny

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Speaker 1: it would go three and a miles a second. And

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Speaker 1: so you could shoot down enemy planes with this tiny

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Speaker 1: little stream. What would would the particles, the pellets have

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Speaker 1: to physically hit the plane? Yes, if somebody had gotten

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Speaker 1: in front of it, would they have gotten blown up

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Speaker 1: or something? Yes, he would. He could knock out an

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Speaker 1: entire army. All right, now, how far can you shoot

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Speaker 1: those pellets? I mean, plane is up there twenty thousand feet?

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Speaker 1: Would this thing have gone that far? He claimed that

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Speaker 1: he could send these this energy to the moon. And

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Speaker 1: I met one of the one of his worker's daughter

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Speaker 1: of Tesla's right arms. And she said he was bouncing

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Speaker 1: beams off the moon in nineteen eighteen, and he wore

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Speaker 1: the same principles you know even then. You mean that

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Speaker 1: could find these little pellets that he sent up there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like trunk lines, you know, and so he could

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Speaker 1: he could use it for destructive means, but he could

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Speaker 1: also use the communication kind of like you know, the

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Speaker 1: various amazing it could use. That is weird, isn't it? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is very weird. He felt it was his greatest invention.

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Speaker 1: And there's still a lot of mystery there. I uncover

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Speaker 1: a lot of in the new book. Now. One of

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Speaker 1: his fallings out with the JP Morgan was Morgan of

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Speaker 1: course wanted to, you know, build millions of people for electricity.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't the Tesla system basically free? Yeah, they didn't have

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Speaker 1: how do you build them? And what Morgan didn't understand,

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Speaker 1: I mean you and I are almost the same exact age.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember television radio were free. You know, no

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Speaker 1: an antenna you were ready to go home, right and

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Speaker 1: it generated billions and billions of dollars. Look at the

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Speaker 1: because of advertising from television, absolutely absolutely and every other sport.

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Speaker 1: So with so, Tesla understood that the revenues would come

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Speaker 1: in a different way, and Morgan didn't understand that. He

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Speaker 1: when Tesla went into selling ozone machines and electrotherapy machines.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to make money in another way so

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Speaker 1: that he could go back and resurrect Warden Cliffs. It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, a very tragic story. And one of the

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Speaker 1: things we discovered in the television show was the tunnels.

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Speaker 1: There was always the speculation of did he really have tunnels. Well,

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Speaker 1: we used ground penetrating radar and we actually photographed these

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Speaker 1: three of them one hundred feet long. There's seven stories

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Speaker 1: totally new information. And was he was sending electra that

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