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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. When I intro see the suits

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Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Radio. Formula One has announced that they're going

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Speaker 1: to use a one hundred percent sustainable fuel beginning in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Uh and it's a part of the

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Speaker 1: efforts the developing the carbon neutral fuel. Uh. And it's

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Speaker 1: part of the efforts it will be a fuel that

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Speaker 1: maybe one day be used in consumer vehicles as well.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about that and part of that technology

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Speaker 1: involved in racing and will Indy cars pick that up

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Speaker 1: one day? Yeah, It's it's interesting you bring it up

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Speaker 1: because the Indy Car is actually going to one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent renewable fuel in twenty twenty three and is leading

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Speaker 1: the way there and there is you know, that's something

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Speaker 1: that's huge for us and you know, again leading the

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Speaker 1: way and showing that motorsports is you know, focusing on

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Speaker 1: these things, which I think is super important for us

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Speaker 1: as a sport. And then that's you know another thing

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Speaker 1: where Indy Car is really you know leading the way

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Speaker 1: and being like as one hundred percent renewgal race fuel.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty it's pretty impressive, I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's another thing that's that's important for us

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Speaker 1: to a s a sports to lead away. Like I said, Marcus,

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Speaker 1: last question from me, can you you're going two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty miles an hour around a track? Me? How

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Speaker 1: ridiculous is? I mean you're literally flying out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's just the day on I eighty manus. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but I do a little bit more than that. You're

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Speaker 1: an older man. But Marcus, here's the thing though, can

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Speaker 1: you be a great driver thinking about the dangers as

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Speaker 1: you're out on the course or if you have that thought?

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Speaker 1: Like in football you can't have a mentality if I

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Speaker 1: could get hurt here right? In racing? Is it similar

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Speaker 1: where you can't think about that because if you do,

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Speaker 1: it's going to affect your performance. Yeah, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know the risks in what you're doing obviously, like you said,

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Speaker 1: doing too aren't thotymouth hour is? You know there's going

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Speaker 1: to be some risks involved in doing that, especially going

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Speaker 1: wheel to wheel with other guys at that speed. You

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Speaker 1: know it's it's definitely risk involved, U. But there again,

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Speaker 1: you know, Indica has been leading the way in safety

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Speaker 1: and and you know, we've implemented a lot of safety

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Speaker 1: improvements over the years. One is a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago we started with stomach call a windscreen that's covering

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Speaker 1: the cockpit to help protect the driver's heads from flying

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Speaker 1: objects or in crashes, and that was a huge thing

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Speaker 1: for us as well. So there is, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: always risks involved in more sports. I think it's always

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Speaker 1: will be. But the priority always is to have the

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Speaker 1: drivers and personnel and everyone of the track is faced

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Speaker 1: as possible. But yeah, you know, you you definitely, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just part of it. You get that apronalian rush

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Speaker 1: obviously from doing these high speeds and you know, being

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Speaker 1: out on track wheel to wheel and you know, inches

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Speaker 1: from the wall. It's of course, you know, it's part

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Speaker 1: of the sports that ning you get from it, and

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Speaker 1: that's you know, one of the things I love at

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Speaker 1: the driver as well. Many sports are concerned now about concussions, U.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Bush in NASCAR, I mean, he still hasn't been

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Speaker 1: cleared to come back to racing. And this was a

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Speaker 1: wreck that happened in Pocono last year, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think people understand when a car jumps off that wall

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Speaker 1: and you are flying, there's got to be a shock

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Speaker 1: to the body involved and it can you talk about

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Speaker 1: the safety involved in just simply protecting drivers from concussions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we have special like next devices that protects us

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Speaker 1: and also the wolves, the styles around the helmets is

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Speaker 1: also very like advanced to protect us from impacts like that,

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Speaker 1: to help us nuts getting contestants in crashes. But of

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Speaker 1: course there's always a risk that it can happen. But

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Speaker 1: there again, I feel like in the cards done a

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Speaker 1: very good job the last two years to improve that,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, ten twenty years back,

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Speaker 1: it was a lot more common than at the stays.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's definitely an area that's more focused on

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Speaker 1: now compared to back in a day, especially with that halo. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: absolutely and that technology in terms of protections. You know, now, Marcus,

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Speaker 1: you started at nine years old racing cards. You know

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Speaker 1: you're now of course pretty much exclusively in North America.

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Speaker 1: Do you think here in America for a young kid

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Speaker 1: seventy eight nine years old that wants to get involved

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Speaker 1: in racing and get that start. How do they do it?

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Speaker 1: Are the opportunities there? Yeah, I think I think the

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Speaker 1: big thing is to get into go cards. I know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know places to try and

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Speaker 1: get the young kids involved in go carts to goase

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Speaker 1: just you know, ninety five percent of the drivers in

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Speaker 1: IndyCar and from the one to start out in go

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Speaker 1: carts as kids. So I would say that's the biggest

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Speaker 1: way to become involved in racing is to try and

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Speaker 1: get into gocarts as a kid. Definitely. Do want to

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Speaker 1: ask about women getting involved more in racing in general.

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Speaker 1: The first woman ever to race in the Indy five

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Speaker 1: hundred Janet Guthrine. It was nineteen seventy seven, and we've

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Speaker 1: seen the evolutionary James, right, so the Lynn Saint James

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Speaker 1: was involved. Of course, Danica Patrick names going along. Well,

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Speaker 1: can we see more of an influence of women getting

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Speaker 1: into IndyCar racing down the road? One hundred percent? I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's something we work as as a serious

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Speaker 1: There's been some women driving the last few years and

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Speaker 1: it's actually just a couple of weeks ago Catherine Legg

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Speaker 1: announced that she will try and qualify for the Indy

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Speaker 1: five hundred this year, so that's super cool. But also

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Speaker 1: on the on the team size, they're working hard. I

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Speaker 1: know my teamship CANASA Racing, we have a program to

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Speaker 1: get the more women into the team. And you know,

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Speaker 1: my assistant engineer on my car, Angela, she she was

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Speaker 1: the first female to actively work on a car to

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Speaker 1: win the five hundred last year, so that was super

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Speaker 1: cool to make that history to get it with her.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely something that's that's a serious and utenships

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Speaker 1: can ask the racing focuses on Marcus Ericson. We just

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Speaker 1: talked to Marcus Ericson. He is last year's winner of

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis five hundred Formula F one driver Oh man

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Speaker 1: for the guy, right, I mean this a great guy

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Speaker 1: driving a Marcus. We love you man. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us here on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. And don't miss the CV Network show

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Speaker 1: hundred Days to India that's coming here this spring. We

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Speaker 1: should be really cool to follow us going up to

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Speaker 1: the five hundred this year. It's going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: our our sort of drive to survive behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: so that's gonna be really cool and a big thing

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Speaker 1: for our sports and for me as well. You know.

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Speaker 1: So that's something that I hope a lot of people

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Speaker 1: tune into to see how cool in the cover raising is.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be the star of that kind of like

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Speaker 1: Daniel Riccardi was the star of the F one Drive

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Speaker 1: to Survive. Is Marcus Ericson going to be the big

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Speaker 1: star of that show? Who knows? But yeah, I'm planning

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Speaker 1: to win out of races, and you know that usually helps. Well.

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Speaker 1: Now I got some of them to fight my wife

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Speaker 1: over for the TV set, man, because usually on a Sunday, man,

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Speaker 1: that's my day. But now this is gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Marcus than appreciated. Man. All right, thank you guys,

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