1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating Herspace. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: I've heard it said that when you're in the back 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: of that garbage truck all day long, you don't smell 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: it anymore. You become tolerant of the mess. You become 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: tolerant of that sickening thing, that toxic thing. So sometimes 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: it's removing yourself even temporarily, go on that trip, take 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: that weekend vacation by yourself, so you have to turn 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: her to breathe some fresh air. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatingheurspace dot com to access our 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivator in her Space, a podcast dedicated to 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: uplifting women like you. 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 4: We're your hosts. 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Brussard, a college professor and psychologist. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 5: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 5: world where Black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood. Please 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 5: fibroids to fake friends and create a safe space where 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 5: black women can. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: Just be. 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 5: Ladies. Today, we have a very special guest on the show, 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 5: and I'm just going to jump right into her bio 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 5: because we want to get to the juicy conversation. Okay. 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: Doctor Trudy Ann Fraser is a pediatric dentist, wellness expert, 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: and social media influencer dedicated to inspiring positive transformations in 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: the lives of others. After overcoming severe burnout with the 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: passion for holistic wellness, she and her team developed the 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 5: PMS formula Physical, Mental, and Spiritual Wellness. Her purpose is 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 5: to empower others to embrace self care and self love 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 5: by promoting a harmonious and fulfilling lifestyle that sounds so amazing. 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 5: Doctor Trudy in, welcome to cultivating her space. 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, it's an honor to you here day. 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: Oh well, we are definitely looking forward to this conversation, 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: and so we will start with our quote of the day, 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: and Doctor Trudi in, this quote will sound familiar to 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: you because these are your words, So our quote of 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: the day, invest in yourself like you're the most valuable asset. 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: So I'll say that one more time for the folks 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: in the back. Invest in yourself like you're the most 45 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: valuable asset. 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: Doctor Trudian. 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: When you hear your words, what give us some context 48 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: around this quote? 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 4: Ooh, that gave me goosebuones. First of all, y'all surprised me. 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: So I'm choosing ear to ear like a cheshire cat. 51 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: Invest in yourself like you are the most valuable asset. 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: So do things come to mind when I hear that? 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: And when I said those words, the first thing was 54 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: I have some good friends here in Atlanton that own, 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: excuse me, a diamond like a precious stone and a 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: jewelry like a gold business. So they're jewelers, and every 57 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: time I talk to them, they always talk about their 58 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: most precious stones and how it costs so much more 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: than all the other ones. So they always look at 60 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: this when they present it as an investment piece. So 61 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: you know, when somebody says it's an investment piece, they 62 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: never start with the price. They start with the quality. 63 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: So that's the first thing. Invest in yourself like you 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: are the most precious investment that you could possibly own, 65 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: the biggest diamond, the most clear diamond that they have 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: on their showroom that. 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: They you can't even touch it. 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: You have to touch it with gloves, handle yourself with care. 69 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: So that quote came because I broke down and burned out, 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: and I'm sure we're going to get into my story 71 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: a little bit later. But I was actually the opposite. 72 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: I was not invested in myself. I was pouring from 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: an empty cup. I was I like to say broken. 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I was literally feeling like I was falling apart because 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: I was not valuing who I was. I was counting 76 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: my worth on others. So if they didn't see my worth, 77 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: I felt like my value changed. But now it's actually 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: the opposite. I invest in myself. I spend time taking 79 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: care of myself like I am the one worthy. I 80 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: show up like I am the bomb. I am the 81 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: most expensive jewel that you can get. So that's where 82 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: that came from. That came from there. 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 5: We go come on the bomb dot com. Thank you, 84 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: doctor Trudy, And that was good. Okay, so you talked 85 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 5: about your story a little bit. Let's dive into that story, 86 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 5: Doctor Triuney in what is your origin story and how 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: did you become the woman that we see today? 88 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: Sure? So, I was born in Jamaica, book, I lived 89 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: in Stone Mountain, Georgia. A big part of my story 90 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 4: started with my dad. 91 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: So Daddy was a biology teacher, a high school biogey 92 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: teacher in Jamaica, and he coached women's field hockey, but 93 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: he also played field hockey for the Jamaica national team. 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: And when he wasn't training for his hockey pursuits, he 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: was teaching. And we talked in America that teachers don't 96 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: make much. In a third Brooke country, teachers make even less, 97 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: maybe a who of the salary that teachers in America make. 98 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: And I remember Daddy saying I had to flee Jamaica 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: in pursuit of more because my sister and I were 100 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: born then. 101 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: So in order to feed us ice cream, he had 102 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: to skip lunch. 103 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: And that story just it breaks my heart, Like you 104 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: imagine skipping lunch to feed your kids a little treat 105 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: like ice cream. Ice cream was cheap, but that's the 106 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: sacrifice that he had to make. So Daddy left Jamaica, 107 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: and a couple of years later, my mom left and 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: we stayed with my aunt in Jamaica, and the reunion. 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: Was so sweet. 110 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: It was bitter because we were leaving what we knew 111 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: and we were scared kids at nine, but it was 112 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: sweet because we were reuniting with our parents. 113 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: So that was the start. 114 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: So I grew up as this Jamaican kid in an 115 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: American country, in American culture. 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: And I can you hear me? Okay? I see you 117 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: touching your ears, and I. 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Was in pursuits of bigger out who I was like 119 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: when you grow up. And I'm sure some of your 120 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: listeners who may come from immigrant parents, even though you're 121 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: raised in America, they're like, no, like they're treating you 122 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: and training you as well, you're still living in that country. 123 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 4: So I had the thick eyebrow. 124 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: I wore uniform to school even though I was in 125 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: public school. So unfortunately I was teased and I think, 126 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: not realizing that I was that precious stone, I gave 127 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: away my power and I was bullied. And here was 128 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: the start of Trudy trying to find who she was 129 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: and leading with insecurity as opposed to leading with confidence. 130 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: So it all started in my childhood. 131 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure many women that listen to your podcast, can 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: relate to that family dynamic, trying to find out who 133 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: you are and letting other people define you as opposed 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: to defining yourself. 135 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: Wow, keep going wow. 136 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm glad you paused there, because 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: I think that's an important piece to acknowledge that your foundation, 138 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: how you start your childhood has a huge impact on. 139 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: The rest of your life. 140 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 5: Right. 141 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: And I also think that it's important for us to 142 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: take time to really listen and understand what it's like 143 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: to be an immigrant in this country and what that transition, 144 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: particularly when you're coming as a child, how that really 145 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: sets you up and impacts the rest of your life. 146 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: Right. 147 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: So, doctor Trudeanne, you are living in Georgia, growing up 148 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: in Georgia, you're experiencing bullying. You haven't yet realized and 149 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: identified the precious, valuable stone that you are. But if 150 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: we fast forward, we know that you're a pediatric dentist. 151 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: So tell us how you got to that space and 152 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: then what happened that led you to really realizing that 153 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: you are your most valuable asset and you need to 154 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: care for your most valuable asset. 155 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: I love how you did that transition. So I think 156 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: in the interview questions. One of them stood out to 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: me and it says, what is your orange story? But 158 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: also how did you become the woman that you are today? 159 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: And I'd like to answer that question by saying, I'm 160 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: still becoming, I'm still learning, I'm still growing. But a 161 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: pivotal moment in my life was actually after I became 162 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: a dentist and I found myself in a toxic marriage, 163 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: a toxic first marriage. Because I've since remarried, but I 164 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: was in a toxic first marriage, and I found myself 165 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: in a toxic job and once again giving my power away, 166 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: not realizing that I am the prize, not realizing that 167 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: just because somebody didn't see my worth, my value didn't change. 168 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: And it wasn't until I hit rock bottom. 169 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: I called it my bathroom for a moment, because I 170 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: found myself in Texas at the time, on the bathroom floor, 171 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: balling my eyes out, trying to figure out how I 172 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: got there. I hated work, I hated the situation that 173 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: I was in. I was married to somebody who himself 174 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: didn't know his worth. He just didn't have the tools 175 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: that he needed to invest in himself much less dibbhoring 176 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: to me, and no matter how dim I made my light, 177 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: his light was never going to be able to shine. 178 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: So I found. 179 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: Myself once again in a cycle of brokenness, of trying 180 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: to figure out who I was and how I got there. 181 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: But I don't I call it my beauty for Ashes 182 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: story because I don't regret it. From that experience, I 183 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: learned one that I think I said it. 184 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: I'm that girl. But I learned how to be empathetic 185 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: and sympathetic. 186 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: To others when they show up because we're all going 187 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: through something. We're all trying to figure out who we 188 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: are and whose we are in the midst of whatever 189 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: situation that we found ourselves in. And i'd say, dominic, 190 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: one of the biggest things I learned was how to 191 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: set boundaries. 192 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: Because nobody's gonna value me like me. 193 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna value my time, nobody's gonna pay me what 194 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm worth unless I ask for it, until I open 195 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: my mouth and say, no, I am deserving of this 196 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: some way, somehow, these these employers never give us their 197 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: best offers. But when we say this is but I'm 198 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: asking for then they'll say, let me come back to 199 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: the table. But I had to set that boundary. I 200 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: have to realize what I brought to the table. So 201 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: to answer your question, my journey to become is not 202 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: yet complete, but right now for my trials from you know, 203 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: when diamonds go through pressure, they come out better and 204 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: more sparkling. From my pressure moment. 205 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: I've learned how to. 206 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: Put my well being first and not force so much 207 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: into everybody else that at the end of the day, 208 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: I show up depleted because physically I'm in pain, Mentally 209 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm stressed out, Spiritually I'm depleted, and emotionally God helped me. 210 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm an EmPATH, so when I go from room to 211 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: room at work, I'm either crying. I learned to observe 212 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: and not absorb. I think that's that's that whole therapy. 213 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Observe what somebody else has going on, acknowledge what they're 214 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: going on, let me feel seen, heard and understood, but 215 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: not absorb it. So from my experience, Dominic, I do 216 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: believe that I have a lot of beauty from my ashes, 217 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: and I'm thankful. 218 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: I did not enjoy the broken experience, but. 219 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the fruits of the work that I did, 220 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: especially through therapy. 221 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: Hey lady, it's Terry here. 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And 263 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: I think about what you said about being on the 264 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: bathroom floor and how I'm sure many people can relate 265 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: to being in a toxic relationship and couple that with 266 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: being in a toxic job. I can only imagine just 267 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: your life dynamic and what you were going through, But 268 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: I want to dig into, like what did it require 269 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: of you to be able to leave those situations? Because 270 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: I think sometimes it can feel so like we can 271 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: feel so hopeless. Right, your income right is tied to 272 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: this job that's toxic that you're not enjoying. You're in 273 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: this relationship, I'm sure you have. You may have had 274 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: businesses together, children, you're you know, you changed your name, 275 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: You're in a whole marriage. It's not easy to just leave. 276 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 5: So what was required of you to be able to 277 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 5: transition out of that into the new life that you 278 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: have now. 279 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: The word that I'm going to give you right now, 280 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: Terry is support. I believe that we can do anything 281 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: we put our mind to one. It starts with ourselves 282 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: and saying, you know what, enough is enough? My new husband, 283 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: he causes your breaking point, like what is my breaking point? 284 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: Like for me, it was that bathroom for a moment 285 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: and being like God did not create me and take 286 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: me out of little Jamaica and put me in this 287 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: big old world for me to just not live up 288 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: to my fullest potential. 289 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: But the biggest thing was support. And I remember calling my. 290 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: Mom and crying and just saying, Mommy, like I can't 291 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: do this anymore. 292 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: I really like I was hurt. 293 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: Right now, I guess I'm absorbing and not observing. But 294 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: my mom really said, baby, as I told him, I 295 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: won't say his name, but as I told him back then, 296 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: there's always room for you upstairs. And she said, I'm 297 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: not telling you to leave. I'm not telling you to 298 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: get a divorce. But what I'm telling you is you 299 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: need a way of escape. You need a breath of 300 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: fresh air. And she said come home. Back then, I 301 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: was working part time. I was blessed terry, so unlike 302 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: others where it's a little harder to leave, we did 303 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: not share children together. We did not share a business together, because, 304 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: as he always said it, this is your stuff that 305 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: should have been a red flag. 306 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 4: I made those red flags. Yellow was over here and 307 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: mine is over there. We do that right, but that 308 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: support system, knowing that I was not alone. 309 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: There's an African proverb terry that says, if you want 310 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: to go fast, go alone, but if you want to 311 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: go far, you go on community. And my community in 312 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: that case, my parents and one of my closest friends, 313 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: because when you're broken down, you don't want to repeat 314 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: the story over and over. But you have that one 315 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: or two people that you trust, that's in your inner circle, 316 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: that won't judge you, that will call on check on you, 317 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: those people that are reaching out insincerity, that's a part 318 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: of your support system. So leaning on my support system 319 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: and coming home and making the next best decision. A 320 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: lot of times we're scared of leaving. We're scared of 321 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: that big D word divorce, We're scared of that big 322 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Q word quitting. But sometimes you need to remove yourself 323 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: from the toxicity in order to breathe. It is not 324 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: shade against garbage people. I'm so thankful for our garbage collector, 325 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: else my house will be filled with it. But I've 326 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: heard it said that when you're around, when you're in 327 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: the back of that garbage truck all day long, you 328 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: don't smell it anymore. You become tolerant of the mess. 329 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: You become tolerant of that sickening thing, that toxic thing. 330 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: So sometimes it's removing yourself, even temporary. Go on that trip, 331 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: take that weekend vacation by yourself, so you have time 332 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: to breathe some fresh air, and me coming home from 333 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: Houston to Atlanta was that fresh air that I needed, 334 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: and I was. 335 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: Able to see my daddy don't treat my mom like that. 336 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: He doesn't come home and walk past her and act 337 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: like she doesn't exist. He was not having all the 338 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: toxic things coming out of his mouth. 339 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: He was not breaking her down. But that was my reality. 340 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: So I had to remove myself. 341 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 2: From that reality to realize that I was accepting that 342 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: toxicity that I did not deserve. So that first step 343 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: that mustering up the courage to take the next best 344 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: step without an attachment, without saying I have to make 345 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: a decision, because that weight of that big decision will 346 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: cripple you. But I knew I was okay going home, 347 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: going to my safe space. So that was the first thing, 348 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: and then starting with my next best step was there 349 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: Because I was crying, y'all crying, wa enough crying going. 350 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: To I was eating tears. I was so sad. 351 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: I don't like to diagnose myself as depressed because the 352 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: therapist didn't do it, but I was very, very sad, 353 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: and my therapist really held my hand and walked me 354 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: through that process to help me realize that I was 355 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: enough just by myself, independent of the doctor title, independent 356 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: of the wife title, independent of being attached. 357 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: To somebody else. Because our society praises man. 358 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: Okay, your husband. I'm not saying it's not a beautiful thing. 359 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm not about to be like I told you, I'll remarried. 360 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: I love marriage, just beautiful. But being married to the 361 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: right person is important. Somebody that will pour into you 362 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: and not just deplete you. And you don't give your 363 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: power away. 364 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: So I'm a pause right there because I think I 365 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: said a lot. 366 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: You dropped a lot of gems in there, and I 367 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: appreciate you sharing your experience, right, so you streuss the 368 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: importance of support. But something else that you said is, 369 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: you know, in therapy, one of the things that you 370 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: learned about yourself was that you were more than your career, 371 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: your role as a wife, your role as a daughter, 372 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: your role as a sister. Like you are more than 373 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: all of those pieces. And so when you think about 374 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: because I know there are lots of women out there 375 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: who are listening and feeling as though their worth is 376 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: tied to these various roles that they play in life. 377 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: When your therapist pointed that out to you. How were 378 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 3: you able to actually separate that and actually see that, 379 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: to actually receive what your therapist was sharing with you, well. 380 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: Doctor dom Initially I was shocked because nobody had. 381 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: Ever said that before. 382 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: I was always praised for the accomplishments. 383 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: See I love mothers. I love parents. 384 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: I think they have one of the hardest roles because 385 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: you're entrusted with this seed and whatever you order it, 386 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: that's what will grow. Like whatever you plant, that's what 387 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: will grow. And I love my parents and God bless them. 388 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: But I think I became addicted to the praise and 389 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: the accolades, especially as a high achiever. 390 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: It was oh I got a's, Oh you got to 391 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 4: be well what happened to A? So I became I 392 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: was classically conditioned that. 393 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: You had to do above and beyond, and if you 394 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: didn't then it wasn't enough. So I pushed. I pushed, 395 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: and then I became addicted to the. 396 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: Doctor title doctor, and then it became missus and then 397 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: you It's almost like a social club. 398 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: So I didn't realize that I was slowly attaching to 399 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: these various roles in these various social clubs, and they 400 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: became what I led with until it was stripped away 401 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: from me. 402 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 4: So I don't quite have a full answer for you 403 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 4: on I know how it made me feel, but I 404 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: don't know. 405 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: Maybe you as a therapist could give some insight to this, 406 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: how to not associate with it and owing to it 407 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: so much because for me, doctor down, my experience was 408 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: mine had to be stripped, like I left the toxic 409 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: job because it broke me, ile like the toxic marriage 410 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: because it broke me. So for me, it's almost like 411 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: God said, okay, beby girl, enough, it's enough. Let me 412 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: help you out, let me remove you from this, and 413 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: realized I created you for more. This is just cherry 414 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: on top. You're the ice cream, You're the whip cream. 415 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: Whether it's cherry is there or not, You're still you. 416 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: You still taste good, damn good. 417 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: So I don't quite have an answer to how to 418 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: not associated with it unless you have somebody in your 419 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: life that reminds you like my good husband is what 420 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: I associate call them the good other. He loves me grounded. 421 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: Maybe it is an answer to have things around you, 422 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: maybe affirmations or even people around you that keep you grounded. 423 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 4: Because he's a lawyer, but he's so much more. I'm 424 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: a dentist. My podcast is called not Not Just a Dentist. 425 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 4: I'm so much more than the titles that people give me. 426 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: So maybe having things. 427 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: Like affirmation or books that you read or people around 428 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: you that aren't toxic but based for you back into reality, 429 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: like baby, like you got it. This is who you are, 430 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: better than just a pretty face. You're more than just 431 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: a pretty face. You're more than just your accolade. So 432 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: maybe that's one thing, and maybe you can add some more, 433 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: doctor don. 434 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: I don't think I need to. 435 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: I think you answered it beautifully, like I love that answer, 436 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: Doctor Tudieu, you have a hair preaching. 437 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 5: This is good, this is good stuff. We're just going 438 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: with the flow. I know we had questions for you, 439 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 5: but like, we're just going with the flow. But one 440 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 5: of the things that I did want to ask you 441 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 5: about is like what began your journey into dentistry and 442 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 5: specifically pediatric dentistry. 443 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: Oh great question. So I've always had a love for science. 444 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: I think my dad, being a science teacher, he always 445 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: had some kind of scientific experiment, like he made science 446 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: fun for us as a child. So my interest in 447 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: science was peaked earlier on and of course when you 448 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: love science and you're good at science, you're almost steered 449 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: into the path of healthcare in some way. Scientists health care. 450 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: So I initially thought I wanted to be either nurse 451 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: or a physician. But then I got my wisdom teeth 452 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: out at seventeen and I saw that the dentists were 453 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: both physicians and dentist. 454 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, that's cool. So it sparked my interest, 455 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: and then I did internships. So I always promote for 456 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 4: the moms listening or the young ladies that are listening 457 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: getting exposed to different things because we don't know what 458 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: we don't know. So I did an internship. It was 459 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 4: a summer program in. 460 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: College in Howard, and I was able to go to 461 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: the operating room one with a orthopedic surgeon that bless him, 462 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: he's so sweet. 463 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: I put myself out there. I met this tall black 464 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 4: guy in the in. 465 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: The cafeteria and I walked up to him and I 466 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: told him who I was and what I was there for, 467 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: and he said meet me here, and I met him 468 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: and he took me. 469 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 4: The surgery five hours of surgery, and I was falling 470 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: over and he was like, baby, this is not for you, 471 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: I said, it's not. So I was exposed to what 472 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: long hours surgery was like, and I said, okay, it's 473 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: not surgery, but maybe I can look into oral surgery. 474 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: And I enjoyed it. 475 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: I liked it. 476 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: So I went to demo school thinking I was going 477 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: to be a surgeon. So I put my head down. 478 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: I told somebody yesterday I was an ostrich and dental school. 479 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: I literally was an ostridge at down I mean elbow 480 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: deep in school. And I was blessed. 481 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: God blessed my efforts. 482 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: I was on a podcast yesterday and the young lady said, 483 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: give God something to work with, give him something to bless. 484 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 4: So I gave God quite a bit to bless. I'm 485 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: so thankful that he did. 486 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: But what I realized in dental school is I didn't 487 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: like taking people's teeth outs. 488 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: I still don't. But I was really good with kids. 489 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: I was able. 490 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: I live out loud, I live in color, I live brightly, 491 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: and I was able to connect really well and have fun. 492 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: I wanted a job where I could have fun. I 493 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: could go to work. Even to this day, I go 494 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: to work in superhero costumes and page and tututh. 495 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: I just have a good time. 496 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the life that I was blessed with and 497 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: I leaned into and I had quite a bit of 498 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: mentors in pediatric dentistry, and I managed. I was blessed 499 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: with matching my number one program, and eleven years later, 500 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm still practicing pediatric dentistry. 501 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: It is hard. 502 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: One thing I will say is what parents don't realize 503 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: is we, as pediatric dentists, have two patients. 504 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: We have the mom or the dad. 505 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: Most of the times it's the mom, but dads do 506 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: come and we have the kids. So there are two 507 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: patients in the room and maternal anxiety, the anxiety of 508 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: the mom. 509 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 4: Does get transferred to the kids. So this is a 510 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 4: shameless plug. 511 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: Don't prepare the kids unless you're reading a book and 512 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: it's a positive book. If you yourself have dental anxiety, 513 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: don't I know you mean well, but don't prepare them. 514 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: Let us do it because what happens is, especially if 515 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: the kids are in pain and we're like, oh, it's 516 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: gonna hurt. 517 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: They're gonna give you a shot. We're trying to prepare them, 518 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: but we don't even call a shot. I call a 519 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: shot at work. 520 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: The BADSS word, so we don't even use it because 521 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: it's scared of kids and they're not emotionally intelligent enough 522 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: to separate the fight or flight and tap into their 523 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: rest and digest like, Okay, it's okay to do it. 524 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: I can do it. 525 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: Scared, No, they're just like I'm scared, don't touch me, 526 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: So let us do it. And then the other plug 527 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: I have is please, please, please, when you come to 528 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: your dentists, whether it's a kid's dentist or a built dentist, 529 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: stop telling the dentist that you hate them. 530 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 4: I hate the dentist. 531 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: What you really are saying is I'm really anxious when 532 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: I come to this place. I had a bad experience 533 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: in the past and it makes me nervous. But as 534 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: dentists were people too, and our mental stress manifests itself physically. 535 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 4: So not only are we physically hunched over day in 536 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: the day out, but when we have I mean sometimes 537 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: I see forty people. 538 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: If I have forty people come and say, I hate you, 539 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: I hate you, I hate you, I hate you. 540 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: Doctor dom, I'm sure you tell your patients. Words are powered. 541 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: There's seeds that de planted. So I went to a 542 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: job where it and even ten people. I'm afraid I 543 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: hate you, doctor d I hate you. Stop saying that. 544 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: Say what you really mean. I am nervous. 545 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, plugs. I am here for those tips. 546 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I know a lot of people that 547 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: don't like going to the dentists. And really, what it 548 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: is is, yes, they are anxious about whatever treatment they 549 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: believe it's going to cause them pain. Yes, and our 550 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: brains are wired to help us reduce pain and find pleasure. 551 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: And for a lot of people, unfortunately, the dentist office 552 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: is not one of those places. However, it sounds like 553 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: when you talked about being getting to wear like tutus 554 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: and superhero costumes, I was like, Oh, I want all 555 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: my nieces and nephews to go and see you. And 556 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: then and so when I recognize that your practice is 557 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, and. 558 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: So, what are. 559 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: Some of the joys of being a pediatric dentist? 560 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 4: Oh, great question. You know what. 561 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: One of my biggest joys is when well, let me 562 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: back up. My superpower is connection. I love connecting with people. 563 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: Teeth are great, but they're secondary to what they do. 564 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: I know, I'm a dentist. I don't know I don't 565 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: know if I'm supposed to. 566 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: Say to or not. 567 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: But I don't work as a dentist because I love teeth. 568 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: I work as a dentist because I genuinely love people, 569 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: love connecting with people, and like people to feel seen, 570 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: heard and understood. 571 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 4: So let's start there. 572 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: So that is a superpower of mine and I love 573 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: it espectly my young girls. And when I have those 574 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: teenage girls or those five year old and the mom's 575 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: just sending me videos on Instagram where the kids stands 576 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: up in their class and they're like, I'm going to 577 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: be a dentist like doctor. You know, it's beautiful because 578 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: we don't know what we don't know. But when little 579 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: girls see me and they're like, wait, you have big 580 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: afro hair like me, or you know, or I have. 581 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 4: On the same color as them. 582 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: I love pink, and I have Today's not orange day, 583 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: but I love pink. 584 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: And they're like, I love pink too, and they just 585 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: connect and they see them. So first of all, they 586 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: think I'm like twenty one, and I'm okay with that. 587 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: That listen. 588 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody getting plastic surgery to look older. So all 589 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: you young professionals out there, when people see and they're like, oh, 590 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: you look too young to be a pause right there, 591 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: that's their perspective that they're projecting. But secondly, I've learned 592 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: to shift it around and make it a compliment, because 593 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: ain't nobody having classic surgery to look old the last 594 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: time I check. 595 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 4: So I tell them that and then I say thank you, 596 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: so they connect to me. 597 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: One of my other favorite things of the young girls 598 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 2: like when I talk to them about the things that 599 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: they aspire to be and what it is that they like. 600 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: Because as a culture, we praise certain jobs. 601 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: We say, oh doctor, oh lord, but hell, Terry Dominique, 602 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 4: you'll are the best at what you do, and we 603 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 4: live in a world where you can be a damn 604 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 4: good podcaster and make great money. 605 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: As parents, they want to instill high achieving goals in 606 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: their kids because they want them to do well. They 607 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: want them to do better than how they did. 608 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 4: Right. 609 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: So the intention is good. But when I pause and 610 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: I talk to young girls and I'm like, I hear 611 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: what you. 612 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 4: Said you want to do, but what do you like? 613 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: And then they light up. 614 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: Because they're like, oh my gosh, I like anime and 615 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: I start talking about dragon balls. 616 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: The they just a light up because they still seen, 617 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: they feel heard, and they feel understood. So I would 618 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: say that's probably the favorite part of my job, my boss, 619 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: I guess I should send her this. 620 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: I I work in a very healthy environment, work with 621 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: a remarkable black woman from South Africa who pours into me, 622 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: who allows my big bright light to shine, and she 623 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: has amazing, big bright light too, and we both just 624 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 2: shine together, and together we just serve our community so well. 625 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: So that's probably another favorite part. I guess there's a 626 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 2: theme here. Support, that big est word that I talked 627 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: about before. I thrive so well when my little seed 628 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: is planted in the right soil and I'm supported so 629 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: I can grow. So I work in an environment where 630 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm supported. Even the stuff I do outside of work, 631 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: my retreats. She's like, what's going on with the treat 632 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: we treat? How many women are coming out? She supports 633 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: my endeavors, and I'm so thankful for that. So those 634 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: are some of the things that I really really enjoy 635 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: about pediatric adust. 636 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: You think you were asking that. 637 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 5: That was such a beautiful answer, doctor Trudan, And I'm 638 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 5: just so happy for you because I'm thinking about where 639 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 5: you came from the the story you shared before about 640 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 5: where you were in life and just the energy that 641 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 5: you're exuding today. And it sounds like the message I'm 642 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 5: getting is like go where you're celebrated and not tolerated, 643 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 5: Like go where people are not intimidated by that light. 644 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 5: And I can only imagine, I mean, just how impactful 645 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 5: it is with a young girl seeing you as a representative, 646 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 5: like I can only imagine how much I would love 647 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 5: the dentist if I had a distance like you when 648 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 5: I was younger. So it's so amazing, And I thank 649 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 5: you for the pro tips that you shared with appearance, 650 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 5: but I want to dig into another pro tip here, 651 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: and if you can share with parents, what are some 652 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 5: best practices to help their little ones build healthy dental 653 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: hygiene habits early on, because I know for me, i'd 654 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 5: be struggling to flawstart portrudy in and I tried, but 655 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 5: my dentist, I'm one of those people right before the 656 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 5: dentist appointment, I'm like, oh, let me flow, so my 657 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 5: dentists can think that I've been doing a good job 658 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: when it's like, girl, that couple days of flaws and 659 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 5: ain't gonna do us Okay, can you help us out? 660 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 5: What could we do? 661 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 4: Love that? 662 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: So if you were my patient, Terri, I would say 663 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: thank you for your honesty, but we knew the truth. 664 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: Or I would tell them, are you doing like me? 665 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: Where a week before I've build I'll start brushing and 666 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: flossing really good because I used to do that and you're. 667 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 4: Like, you see me. 668 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: So the first tip I would say is say go 669 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: to the dentists one time every six months. The reason 670 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: why we talk about that six month checkup is because 671 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: cavity is doubling the size in six months, So if 672 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: you go every six months, we can catch cavities while 673 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 2: they're small. So there are different levels of cavities. They're 674 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 2: really really small ones that are still in the enamel, 675 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: which is the out of part of the tooth. They're 676 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: medium sized ones that are still in the enamel but 677 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: starting to go inside. You may need feelings there. But 678 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 2: we can catch cavities while they're little. There are things 679 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 2: that we can do. They're non invasive procedures that we 680 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: can do. We can suggest different habit changes that you 681 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: can do, like reducing your carbs like those chips, cookies, 682 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: things like that, or drinking water afterwards, because if your 683 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: mouth is a cidic all day long, you're sipping on cold, 684 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: you're eating all the time, your mouth is acidic. If 685 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: you drink water lit, I mean drink my watown, mind 686 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: my business. Wait hey, look, everybody take a sipping water 687 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 2: moment right now. But if you're drinking your water all 688 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: throughout the day, then your mouth is less acidic and 689 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: you lessen your chance of having cavities. I also like 690 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: to recommend replacing some of the carbs, some of the 691 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: snacks from the pantry and going to the fridge instead, 692 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: unless is apples offt of course, so your vegetables, your fruit, 693 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: instead of the chips and cookies. Those don't quite break 694 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: down into sugar. Those simple carbs like chips and cookies, 695 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: they break down into sugar. So some parents say, oh 696 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: I don't get or some people they say, oh, I 697 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: don't eat candy, or I don't drink soda. But you're 698 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: eating a lot of carbs, and those simple carbs break 699 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: down into sugar. The bacteria eat or the germs eat 700 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: the sugar and produce an acid, so you have an 701 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: acidic not all day long. Imagine if you put your 702 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: hand in a swimming pool all day long. Eventually your 703 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: skin is gonna shrivel up. Well, that's what's happening to 704 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: your teeth. They're being broken down because of our habits, 705 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: are eating habits, our dietary habits. 706 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 4: So every six months dental check ups to catch cavities. 707 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: When you're little. If your dentist says you need a filling, 708 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: I know you're scared. Find a dentist that you trust, right, 709 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: you like, you know you trust. If you have to 710 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: do it anyway, why not do it somebody that you like, right, 711 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: that you trust. Get that feeling, because that feeling is 712 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: only going to get bigger. 713 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 4: And if it. 714 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: Starts to hurt, a lot of times, it's no longer 715 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: a feeling. It's a roucaal. It's an extraction. So sometimes 716 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: we wait until we need more invasive procedures and then 717 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 2: we're like, oh my god, it's gonna hurt. Well try 718 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm not knocking anybody that's in pain right now, but 719 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: go get it done. Get yourself out of pain, and 720 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: continue taking care of yourself right. Get it while it's small. 721 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: Second O, the third thing I recommend for parents is 722 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: to eat none sticky snacks. So I'm not a no 723 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: candy dentist. I know, I know I'm not a no 724 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: candy dentist because I have chocolate in my pantry right now. 725 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: But I recommend no sticky snacks. 726 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 2: So I say pick non sticky stuff, pea popsicles, popcorn. 727 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 2: Eye is for ice cream. These things dissolve. You could 728 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: just drink water afterwards. See us for chocolate. I'm still 729 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 2: trying to find a k but I had a little 730 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: four year old tell me KitKat. So all these things dissolve, 731 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: so they're the lesser of the two evils. Gummy vitamins, 732 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: gummy things. Those things stick in the groove, especially of 733 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 2: our molars, and even though we're brushing them out, they 734 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 2: are little residues that stay and eventually they break through 735 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 2: and you'll get a cavity. So I am against sticky things, gummies, 736 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: fruit snacks, skittles, all those things that go like that. 737 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: Get away from it. But the chocolate, the ice cream, 738 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: those things are great. And then the last thing, it's 739 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: a little trick. 740 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 4: I use it for myself, Terry, and this may help. 741 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 2: You flos first pair or flossing with something you're already doing. 742 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: I think in this book Atomic Habits they talk about 743 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: havoc sacking. So if you're already doing something like you 744 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: shower every single night. I do have teenage boys as patients, 745 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: so I'm careful when I say do you shower every night? 746 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: Some of them are like nah. I'm like, okay, that's 747 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: not gonna be a good analogy. But most of us 748 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: shower every night. So if you pair flossing, brushing, and 749 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: showering and do it in that order. If you phlos 750 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: first and then brush, you keep most people brush your 751 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: teeth that night. Some of them go out no shave 752 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: right now, But you do want to go to bed 753 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: with a clean mouth. If you're only able to brush 754 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: and floss at least once a day, nighttime is the 755 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 2: best time. 756 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: Twice is ideally, but you. 757 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: At least want to go to bed with a clean 758 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: mouth because you're not salivating as much at night, so 759 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 2: your mouth tends to be more acidic. 760 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 4: So go to bed with a clean mouth. Philos first 761 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: and then brush. If you hate. 762 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 2: Flossing, at least get a water pick. At least get 763 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: a water floss. Put half mouthwash a floridading mouthwash in there, 764 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: half water, and at least start with the water pick. 765 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 2: It's better than nothing. I hope those tips help. Those 766 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: tips were great, Thank you. Yes, I feel like even 767 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 2: as adults we could benefit from that. And so, doctor Trudean, 768 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: I know oftentimes people don't think about the connection between 769 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: their dental health and their overall health. Like you get 770 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: to the dentist office and they're asking questions about your 771 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 2: overall medical history, your daily habits, and we're like, well, 772 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 2: what does this have to do with my teeth? Can 773 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: you let us know why taking care of our overall 774 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: health is important to maintaining good oral health. So I 775 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: love how you said that oral health is a key 776 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: component in overall health, and the mouth is the gateway. 777 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: It's not just the entrance, but it's the gateway to 778 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: the rest of our body. 779 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 4: Believe it or not, there. 780 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: Are hundreds of diseases that manifest in the mouth first. 781 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: So if you go to the dentist, and a lot 782 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: of dentists were trained to find the disease before it 783 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 2: starts as a pregnant a woman, A lot of times 784 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 2: if you have parodonal disease, which is when you're dumped, 785 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 2: it always starts, well, most of the times it starts 786 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: with ginger bitis right, and you're not flasc and you're 787 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: not brushing, and it can progress the periodontis, which is paradontitis, 788 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: which is when the bone starts to be affected. Well, 789 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 2: that bacteria can actually enter your blood strain and it 790 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: goes into other parts of your body, and it can 791 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: enter the fetus, so it can cause premature birth uh huh, 792 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: pre term labor sial birds, things like that. That same 793 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: bacteria can enter into your heart that from your blood. 794 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: Think about it. 795 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 2: Your blood goes everywhere, so that it can start in 796 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: the mouth and it can spread if you have a 797 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 2: dental infection, like you have a cavity, and it goes 798 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: from the outside. I talked about the enamela earlier. It 799 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: goes from the outside and eventually it breaks down until 800 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: it gets to the hope, which is where you're nervous. 801 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: There's blood supply there. It goes in the bloodstream and 802 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: unfortunately people have passed. 803 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 4: Away, people have died. 804 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: That's the extreme level where the bacteria went to their 805 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 2: brain or the bacterier went to their heart, and we 806 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: don't want that. Another thing that could happen is that 807 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 2: bacteria can spread to the back of your throat and 808 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 2: there's something. The fancy word is ludwigs in China. But 809 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: your airwaight can get closed because your whole back of 810 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: your throat swells up and your nose and your mouth 811 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 2: is affected. It's connected. So when that swelling occurs, you 812 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 2: can't swallow. If you can't swallow, you can't breathe. Your 813 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 2: tongue gets swollen and you end up in the hospital. 814 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: So dental emergencies can happen. The other thing I always 815 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: tell people is enamel, which is the outer part of 816 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 2: the teeth, is the hardest substance in the body. It's 817 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: harder than bone. It's the hardest thing. So if our habits, 818 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 2: if the acid, if the soda, the phizzy, I should 819 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: have put that out there. Fizzy water is not good. 820 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: It's a cidic and once again, the acid burns the enamel. 821 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 4: No shade, y'all, no shade. 822 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 2: But if they called it what it was instead of 823 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: carbonated drinks, they call it carbonic acid or acid water, 824 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 2: we would stay away from it. But it's all marketing. 825 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 2: Bubbly water, fizzy water, sparkling water. I want my teeth 826 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: to sparkle. 827 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 4: No, you're dumb. 828 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 2: But if you do drink something drink it after you eat, 829 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: and then do regular water afterwards. So side note, I 830 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: just had to put it out there, fizzy water is 831 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 2: not good for our teeth. But back to the original point, 832 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: enamo is the hardest substance in the body. So if 833 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: enamel breaks down, if what we're eating, our habits are 834 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: breaking down our enamel, what will it do over time 835 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: to the rest of our body. That's how we end 836 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: up with the diabetes, the hypertension, all these things. It 837 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: starts with our habits are flossing, our brushing, right, it 838 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: starts with the types of food, our food choices. 839 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 4: Lastly, I think I lost my train to fight. I'll 840 00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 4: just stop. 841 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 5: No, this was so good, doctor Trudiane. I will say 842 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 5: I'm going to floss after our conversation. So thank you 843 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 5: so much. I'm like, I need to go flaws. And 844 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 5: then this conversation went by too fast, doctor Trudean. But 845 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 5: we do want to give you an opportunity to just 846 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 5: let our listeners know what's coming up next for you. 847 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 5: How can they support you or can they find you 848 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 5: all that good stuff? But this has been so insightful. 849 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so thankful to help. So from my experience, 850 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 4: I call it my Beauty for Ashes story. I've developed 851 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 4: a framework and I walk around giving people PMS. We 852 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 4: focus and we pour into our physical, mental, and spiritual wellness. 853 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: And I've developed a retreat as well as a coaching 854 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: program where we help people priortize themselves. 855 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 4: Don't be like me. 856 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: I waited on until I broke down and did not 857 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 2: know where to go in order to seek the help 858 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: that I needed. So we built a non judgmental supportive. 859 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: Here's the S word again, the support community. Where right 860 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: now it's only for women. I've had some men ask, 861 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: so right now it's only for women. We go on 862 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 2: our retreats and we pour into ourselves. And I bring 863 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: other facilitators because I know I don't know everything, but 864 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: they help us rebuild. Some people don't know what it's 865 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 2: like to seek a therapist, so we talk about that. 866 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: What is the process of that? What do I do 867 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 2: if I don't like my therapist? That another one, right, 868 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: So we do that our next retreat. The last one 869 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: was in Jamaica in March, but the next one is 870 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: in November, November seventh through the tenth, twenty twenty four 871 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 2: in the Georgia Mountains. Everybody said I can't go overseas, 872 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: but can you do something local? So the next one 873 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: is in Georgia Mountains. 874 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: And if you. 875 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 2: Are a woman who needs to focus on their worth, 876 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 2: the next one is entitled I Am Worthy. 877 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 4: I' mean enough. 878 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: We're going to pour and focus on our self care, 879 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: our self esteem, our self confidence, so we can ask 880 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: for that promotion, so we can leave those toxic marriages, 881 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: so we can even if you're not broken down or 882 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: not in a rock and a hard place, but you 883 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 2: want to not get there, you want to avoid it, 884 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: you want to prevent it. 885 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 4: This retreat, this experience is free you. 886 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 2: And then you can find me on Instagram at doctor Trudyan, 887 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: dr and Trudy And. 888 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure you'll put the link to the show notes. 889 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: But I'm happy to help. 890 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm happy to answer questions, and the retreat website is 891 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 2: linked there for anybody. 892 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 4: We only have three spots left though we filled up quickly. 893 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 4: Yes I have. I'm thankful, I'm thankful. 894 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 3: And then I know some of our listeners may be 895 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 3: in the Georgia area and may be looking for a 896 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: new peas for dentists for their little ones, and so 897 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: how can they find you? If they are needing excellent 898 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 3: dental care. 899 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 900 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: I met a pediatric dentistry at Bindings and that's PDA b. 901 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 2: You can find us on the website google Pediatric Dentist 902 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: Share Bindings. Myself and doctor Bates are there. We're happy 903 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 2: to help take care of your needs. And if you 904 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 2: don't need a dentist for your little ones, but you 905 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 2: need some for your big ones, and you're in Georgia, 906 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 2: I've got a great network of female dentists who really 907 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 2: take great care of their patients. I'm willing to help 908 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 2: there too. 909 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 5: Doctor Trudean, you are amazing. We're just going to thank 910 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 5: you so much for all that you do, your gifts, 911 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 5: your wisdom, all that good stuff, and we look forward 912 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 5: to supporting you and staying connected with you in the future. 913 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, You're most welcome. 914 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: Thank you. 915 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 3: Hey, lady, it's doctor dom here from the Cultivating her 916 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 3: Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the state 917 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 3: of California and contemplating starting your therapy journey? 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