1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app and if you miss 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: last hour, you ought to listen because it's pretty outrageous 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Scott Wiener that emaciated a little worm 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, he's a state senator, has a bill 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: that would when you buy a car starting with the 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven model a year, that car will have 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: what they call a speed governor in it. It will 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: limit your speed to only ten miles an hour over 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: the limit. That's it. If you're in a fifty five zone, 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: you can only go sixty five and then the car, 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: the car just won't go another mile per hour. That's 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: just it. You you hit the ceiling on it, which 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: is just atrocious invasion of your life. Somebody wrote to 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: me that he thinks this is a precursor so that 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: the government could just shut off your car when they want, 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: And he said, normally, I think that's a conspiracy theory, 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: but I'm starting to buy into this stuff, and I 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: feel the same way. Normally I would just laugh and say, oh, 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: that's a good one, but now I'm starting to wonder 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: because I think incrementally. They're trying to destroy the automobile 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: industry and destroy our freedom. Our freedom in America comes 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: from the ability to drive cars, because then we can 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: do whatever we want to do in life, travel where 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: we want to go, move and live, and have houses 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: in the suburbs, and have houses with wands and swimming pools. 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: And they want to destroy all this. And I know 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: there's only it's only a tiny fringe, but they're all 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: in government and a lot of them have power. And 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: if you don't take this seriously, look how far we've come. 31 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: You won't be able to buy a gas powered car 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: in a few years. You won't be able to buy 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: a car that goes more than ten miles over the limit. 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to drive on the 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: streets in La very freely anymore. If this Mobility twenty 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: thirty five plane gets its way, And that's the next 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: thing we're talking about. This is left over from Garcetti's time, 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: and it's a massive redesign of the streets between now 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: and twenty thirty five to make it safer and easier 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: for people to walk, bike and take transit, but make 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: it much harder to drive your car. The remnants of 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: the La Times editorial board came out in favor of 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: this in the past week. Let's get Chris lagras On 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: and he's with streets La. Right, that's the same of 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: your great John. 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: How are you? 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I know what this is. I've seen all the writing 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: about this before, but I guess this is taking a 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: leap forward in terms of it being implemented. 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: This is a leap forward and a completely chaotic approach. 51 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: What they tried to do under Darsetti was these big 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: miss of projects, as you and I well know, and 53 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: by the way, have with keep La Moving, not street 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: is the city. 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Department, and so your your organization is keep La Moving, 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Keep La Moving, okay, And then streets La is that's 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: the city. 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: That's the city, that's the rename that used to be 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: called the Bureau of Street Services. That sounded to bureaucratic 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: and boring, so now they call it streets La. But 61 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: those are the folks that pave our streets, keep our 62 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: streets in good working order. And last week they actually 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: wrote a letter to Mayor Bass and to the entire 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: city council saying that this initiative is fundamentally flawed. In 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: other words, the city agency that would benefit from this 66 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: in terms of needing a bigger budget, needing more human 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: resources to do this additional work. This should be a 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: boon for them. Then, even Streets LA is saying the 69 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: way this is being approached is fundamentally flawed. They actually 70 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: warn about the potential for failed streets. That's their language, 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: not ours, And for a government bureaucracy to speak in 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: those terms, that's the equivalent of you and I, you know, 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: taking off our shirts and screaming from the rooftops. They 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: also say that the initiative could slow down the team 75 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: street maintenance to a point on quoting here, to a 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: point where the overall city street system deteriorates, result safe 77 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: streets and higher costs to maintain those streets. So these people, 78 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: and by the way, John, this whole initiative is being 79 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: funded primarily by a hedge fund manager in New York 80 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: by the name of Aaron Sosnik. So this isn't even 81 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: a grassroots Los Angeles movement. This is some rich hedge 82 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: fund guy who has a lot of interest in real 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: estate and spending two million dollars of his own money 84 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: dramatically change LA's streets and even the department that would 85 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: benefit from it, and that would be implementing it is 86 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: saying it's catastrophically flawed. 87 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: All right, well, I think we should emphasize here. This 88 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: is going to be on the March ballot on March 89 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the fifth. It's going it's called Measure HLA, that's correct, correct, 90 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: And it would force the city force it to carry 91 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: out improvements in this Garcetti Mobility plan. And anytime city 92 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: departments repave one eighth of a mile, they have to 93 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: add all the improvements required in the plan. That could 94 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: mean bike lanes, bus lanes, what they call pedestrian enhancements, 95 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: and often that is all geared to taking away drivable 96 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: lanes in the street. 97 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, And the key of this solid editionive on 98 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: the March fifth ballot. And remember, ballots are going to 99 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: start going out in a couple of weeks on February, 100 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: because we're all voting by mail now right, Yeah, so people, 101 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: you're actually going to start to spin this in your 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: mail box in the next couple of weeks. 103 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: And gress you there. Chris faded away, his phone went out, 104 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: all right, see if you can get him hooked up again. 105 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I want to reiterate this because it hasn't gotten enough attention. 106 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: There's so much going on. This is really important. It's 107 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: going to be on the March ballot March fifth, when 108 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: you vote against George Gascon, you want to vote no 109 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: on Measure h LA. No, because what they'll do, as 110 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: bit by bit over time, restrict the driving lanes for 111 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: cars and constantly expand bike and bus lanes and other 112 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: things called pedestrian enhancements, which is just a fancy term 113 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: for more roadway that's not going to be used for 114 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: you to drive your car. Let's get Chris on again, Yes, sir, 115 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: all right, what's now? 116 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: Now? 117 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: In all the all the weenies involved in government love 118 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: this thing. Do you have any sense about how normal 119 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: people feel or do they even? Are they even aware 120 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: of this mobility played on the ballot. Do they understand 121 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: what it's going to do? 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: No? No, The vast majority of average folks do not 123 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: pay attention to things like street striping. And that's what 124 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: makes these plans particularly insidious, is because they have all 125 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: of these hugely deleterious effects literally on a day to 126 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: day basis, for millions of people in Los Angeles. But 127 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: this new approach would be so incremental that it would 128 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: be death by a thousand paper cups. Now imagine your 129 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: your regular routine commute to work, We're taking kids to 130 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: school and nice wide two or three lane Los Angeles 131 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Boulevard now goes down to one lane and is filled 132 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: with obstacles and ballards and bull bouts and all of 133 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: that nonsense to take about five minutes to implement and 134 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: completely disrupt the flow of the street, which is why, 135 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: by the way, this initiative is actually violates multiple state 136 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: laws fire codes. As we talked about a couple of 137 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: weeks ago, all of these projects. Every single time the 138 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: city installs a single baller, that's called a traffic calming measure, 139 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: and under state, county and city fire codes, before they 140 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: can install it, they have to go to LAFD, propose 141 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: it to LAFD. LAFD has to analyze it, evaluate it, 142 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: and approve it. And if LAFD does not approve it, 143 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: it cannot go in. 144 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Are they going to LAFD as absolutely not. 145 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: And we have met with senior LAFD officials as well 146 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: as rank and file firefighters and paramedics, and to a person, 147 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: they oppose these measures. They don't appose Obviously, safe streets 148 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: They don't oppose making it easier for people to bike 149 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: and walk if that's how they want to get around, 150 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: but the way it is being implemented. First it was 151 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: these giant you know, Plia del Rey and mar Vista 152 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: and Foothill Boulevard out and someone's hunga in the valley 153 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: and on and on and that the road diets. So 154 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: much public the road diets, and that receives so much 155 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: public backlash, and no small part thanks to this show 156 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: that they are now going in the opposite direction and 157 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: saying we're just gonna sneak it by them. It's like 158 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: the Elmer Fudd approach to street maintenance. VELI very quiet, 159 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: I'm installing road diets. 160 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Oh, they got it all over Santa Monica. It's absolutely infuriating. 161 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: I forgot. I always forget to mention the ballards. Those 162 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: are those those those posts, they're painted white or they 163 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: painted yellow, and they try to restrict traffic movement, especially 164 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: it inn and making right turns and sah yeah yi. 165 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: Well these are particularly dangerous actually, because the average motorist 166 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: sees this plastic thing. It just looks like a piece 167 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: of plastic sitting in the road. What they don't realize 168 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: is that there's a steel anchor underneath that plastic that 169 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: if you even clip it, it's gonna take your car apart. 170 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: And they are so quick and easy to implement. And 171 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: you mentioned Santa Monica. Santa Monica, which by the way, 172 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: is facing a massive budget deficit, is facing a ongoing, 173 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: spiraling homeless crisis. Business is fleeing like you can't believe. 174 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: You know where they're spending their money. They bought a 175 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: special machine that drives down the street and rolls at 176 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: lays out new concrete medians in minutes. It's this big device. 177 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how many millions of dollars or hundreds 178 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars they spent on it, and they're 179 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: driving it all over Santa Monica and it looks like 180 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: a dinosaur that is pooping concrete for lack of a 181 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: better description. And in five minutes, Ocean Boulevard went from 182 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: nice wide two lanes everybody can see everybody, to these 183 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: narrow one lanes with these new concrete medians on either 184 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: side of the street. And it took them, like I said, yes. 185 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: To do it. 186 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: It is a special built machine and it makes. 187 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: It with Los Angeles and makes it very difficult to 188 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: travel at at a decent speed. Chris, I gotta go. 189 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on again, and let's keep talking 190 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot between now in March fifth, because I grieve 191 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: with you. I don't think most people know this thing 192 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: even exists, let alone understand what it's going to do 193 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: to daily life in the city of Los Angeles. Thanks 194 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: for coming on. 195 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. John, talk to you soon. 196 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: And I can tell you firsthand because I'm frequently in 197 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: Santa Monica almost every day, and you don't want this 198 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: in La or any other city in La County or 199 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Orange County. You do not want this. This is terrible 200 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: because the only purpose is to restrict automobile movement, nothing else. 201 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: The way that Scott Wiener's stupid bill wants to restrict 202 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: your speed. This wants to restrict your your free flowing movement. 203 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: It's going to take you much longer to get around. 204 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: Oh ay, this is a warrend. 205 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 206 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: Forty every hour, it seems it changes somewhat. And this 207 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: is apparent impending standoff between the federal government and the 208 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: state government. Is of Texas because the Republican governor there, 209 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott, he has put up razor wire at the 210 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: Mexican border. It runs through a park and they are 211 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: preventing the federal government agents from coming in and cutting 212 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the razor wire. Federal government had worn won a court 213 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: case saying that we want to cut the race and 214 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: federal policy Trump's state policy. Abbot is refusing, and he's 215 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: willing to put up his Texas National Guard against whatever 216 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: federal agents from Border Patrol, homeland security. It's a little murky. 217 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: We're going to have a correspondent come up, come on 218 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: in just a few minutes to try to explain what's 219 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: going on, because there are a lot of Democrats who 220 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: are telling the Biden administration screw Abbot, nationalize the Texas 221 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: National Guard. Because the way the National Guard works, you 222 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: may know, is that each state governor is the commander 223 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: in chief of his own national guard. California National Guard 224 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: is commanded by Governor Newsom, and it's that the way 225 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: for all fifty states. However, technically it's a national guard 226 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: and the president can overrule a governor. Now that hasn't 227 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: happened since the Eisenhower days in the nineteen fifties. We're 228 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: going to talk with News Nation's Southwest correspondent Olie Bradley 229 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: to explain what's going on here, because you're going to 230 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: have two different teams of law enforcement at odds tomorrow. 231 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Now the latest on the Elseigundo Times. I mean, it's 232 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: quite a disaster. There's an entertainment site called the Wrap 233 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: dot com and they say that Sun Chiang, the owner 234 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Suon Chiang, cut one hundred and fifteen jobs in 235 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: the newsroom and a day later, staffers showing up at 236 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: the Elsagundo offices were greeted by security guards. They were 237 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: checking to make sure that none of the fired writers 238 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: and editors were going to get in the building. They 239 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: were denied entry. And this is the most sweeping layoff 240 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: in the one hundred and forty two year here history 241 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: of the paper. Sun Chiang, according to the Rap, gutted 242 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: the Washington DC bureau, So I guess they now have 243 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: a non functioning Washington bureau. They fired the chief who 244 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: had won a Poetzer Prize as an investigative reporter, KIMBERL Kelly. 245 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: He laid off the business editor, a deputy, and three 246 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: business writers. He got rid of three sports beat writers, 247 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: including the reporters covering the Angels, the Dodgers, and the Clippers, 248 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: So you can forget about reading coverage of those teams anymore. 249 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Got rid of the books editor, pushed out the music 250 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: editor and another Poltzer Prize winner and a poltr finalist photographer, 251 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: and they've gutted this new feature called de Los. It 252 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: was supposed to be aimed at the Latino population. It 253 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: was effectively dismantled. Now we touched on this yesterday. The 254 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: remaining journalists, the members of the union are squealing and 255 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: screaming over all the diversity hires that got cut. And 256 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: I read something here that minority hires were deeply impacted 257 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: by the layoffs, with the Latino caucus losing thirty eight 258 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: percent of its members, the Black caucus losing thirty three 259 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: percent of members. I thought caucuses were congressional organizations. I've 260 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: heard of the Latino and Black caucus, you know, the 261 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: in Congress or in the state legislature. But it looks 262 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: like the writers and editors at the LA Times had 263 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: their own ethnic and race caucuses. I mean, they're supposed 264 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: to just go to the news stories and write down 265 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: what they see and hear and then tell us what happened. 266 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: But apparently they break off into racial groups. Then there 267 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: was the AAPI that's the Asian American Pacific Islander, and 268 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: then the MANASA caucus men ASA, and I had to 269 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: look that up. Anybody want to guess what a NASA 270 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: caucus is, Debah, Have you ever heard this? Have not? 271 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: It is Middle Eastern, North African, South Asian Caucus and 272 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: all three are grouped together. That that was a caucus 273 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: at the LA times. They're so crazed and obsessed with 274 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: their diversity stuff, and this is the only thing the 275 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: Union is screaming about, of course, because they've all had 276 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: an obsession with these progressive politics. That's why people stop 277 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: reading the paper. Do you know they're Online traffic dropped 278 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: by thirty eight percent year to year in November thirty 279 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: eight percent. Because normal people don't spend their entire day 280 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: obsessing on race and ethnicity. They don't spend their whole 281 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: day worried about COVID, they don't spend their whole day 282 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: worried about climate change. They don't spend all their day 283 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: worried about people's genders, or their ethnicities, or their races 284 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: or anything else they don't. It's like Earth to the 285 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: La Times and the rest of the media. US normal 286 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: people out here don't care about this stuff, and we 287 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: don't have time to read about this nonsense. And this 288 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: was very telling that of all the things you could 289 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: criticize your boss for when he guts your newsroom, is 290 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: you're screaming about the diversity hires. What about how you 291 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: run off much of the audience with all your left 292 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: wing nonsense, which is true. The La Times is in 293 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: exactly the same category as bud Light, Target and Disney Movies. 294 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: People stopped buying the beer, stop buying Target clothing, stop 295 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: going to Disney movies, stopped reading the La Times because 296 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: of all this left wing propaganda that was being shut 297 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: down their throats. I I don't know. I don't think 298 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: anything's going to replace the othered Times, though, I mean 299 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: some of the writers do some good investigative work. We've 300 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: certainly read plenty of pieces. I'm not gonna be ampigrady here, 301 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: but much of the paper had had just gone to 302 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: hell with all this left wing progressive rot and now 303 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: they're pushing for our roads to basically be eliminated with 304 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: the mobility plan. They want George gascon back is the 305 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: d The hell with you? I have to read this. 306 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A six. 307 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I want to get into this right away. This story 308 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: has been developing all day. There is there could be 309 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: a standoff tomorrow between law enforcement from the state of 310 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: Texas and law enforcement from the federal government because the 311 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: Texas Governor, Greg Abbott has put razor wire up at 312 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: the border. The federal government wants it torn down. Abbot 313 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 1: has said no, and this is getting serious. We're going 314 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: to talk with Ollie Bradley from News Station, which is 315 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: the hot new cable news channel, and she's the Southwest correspondent. 316 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: So let's get Alie on here. How are you. 317 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm doing well, Thanks for having me. 318 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: What is going on? Because this story really is blown 319 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: up in the last twenty four hours. 320 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now. The latest situation at the border obviously 321 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: this battle between Texas and the federal government. Twenty five 322 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: Republican governors have now come forward saying that they stand 323 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: in solidarity with Texas and its constitutional right to defend itself, 324 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 4: and Governor Greg Abbott is doubling down, digging in his 325 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: heel saying that he's invoked an invasion over a year ago. 326 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: He is doing what he needs to do to secure 327 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: the border in what he says is the federal government's absence. Now, 328 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: this week, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the 329 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: Biden administration allowing border patrol agents to cut through and 330 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: remove razor wire in order to apprehend migrants. So a 331 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: lot of people are saying Texas is defying this Gotis 332 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: ruling by putting up more razor wire. But the reality 333 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: is that nothing in this Gotis ruling says that Texas 334 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: can or can't do anything. It's about border patrol cutting 335 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: the razor wire. And the reason why border patrol is 336 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: cutting that wire in the first place is because those 337 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: individuals on the other side of that wire are on 338 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: US soil. They now become the responsibility of the United States. 339 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: Those individuals are literally waiting to be arrested. They're being 340 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 4: apprehended by border patrol because they're undocumented. 341 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: So if border patrol doesn't go. 342 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: Through the wire or figure out a way to get 343 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: to them, then those people will likely become what they 344 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: call got aways. Those are people who have evaded law 345 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: enforcement who are never caught or apprehended, and so Border 346 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: Patrol is saying, or DHS is saying, we have to 347 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 4: be able to do our job and apprehend those people, 348 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: and Texas is doubling down and putting out more wire basically, 349 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: but the people are still coming through. They're coming in 350 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: through nearby Camado and Normandy, which is about twenty miles away. 351 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: We're still seeing some groups come through there. But this 352 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: fighting is continuing here and Governor Abbott is saying that 353 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 4: he's going to stick with this fight. He's not backing down. 354 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: There are calls right now from some Texas lawmakers where 355 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 4: they want the Texas National Guard to be controlled by 356 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: the federal government. Now, the Texas Air Guard and the 357 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: Texas Army National Guard can be federalized. However, the Texas 358 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: State Guard is fully supported and funded by the state, 359 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: so Texas will maintain control of that entity. So it's 360 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: going to be very interesting. Men and women down on 361 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: the front lines down there told me they're prepared to 362 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 4: be arrested if that's the next steps from the federal government, 363 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: if that's what they end up doing. So it's going 364 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: to be really interesting over the coming days. In the 365 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 4: recent letter, DHS said that they wanted full access to 366 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: Shelby Parks. That's the area that the State of Texas 367 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: has ceased from the city of Eagle Pass, and they 368 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: are saying they're giving Texas until tomorrow to give them access. 369 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: So we will see what happens tomorrow. 370 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: And then what happens. I mean, you've got armed law 371 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: enforcement on the Texas side and the US side, and 372 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: obviously nobody wants to use force here. So are they 373 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: just going to stare at each other? 374 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's what it would look like 375 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: if they came in and they federalized the different National 376 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: Guard entities, right, is that they would be able to 377 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: come in and control that. But I don't know what 378 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: the consequences are here because DHS hasn't laid that out. 379 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: They haven't said if you don't let us in, we're 380 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: going to use force. If you don't do this, we're 381 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 4: going to do this. So we haven't seen what DHS 382 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: is really kind of dangling over Texas as a threat 383 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: right now. So it's going to be interesting, Like you said, 384 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: is it going to be just kind of a standoff 385 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: or what the reality is? Border Patrol's not down there 386 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: knocking on the door trying to get into Shelby Park. Hey, 387 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: there aren't people crossing into Shelby Park right now, which 388 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: is where they used to process those people and transport them. 389 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: B Border Patrol has always had access to the boat rents. 390 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: You see Border Patrol going in and out of there 391 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: all day with their air boats because you can't block 392 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: off a navigable waterway, so the real brand is open 393 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: to border patrol. They have been utilizing that waterway since 394 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: this closure began. So again, you know agents I talk to, 395 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: they're saying, we don't want the access. It's the Biden 396 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: administration and DHS that wants the access. We want to 397 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: be out here catching the people who are trying to 398 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 4: evade law enforcement. We want to be out here securing 399 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 4: the border. We don't want to be tied up transporting 400 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: and processing people. 401 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: From what I understand, Abbot's position is that Biden has 402 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: abdicated his constitutional responsibility to protect Texas in America from 403 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: an invasion, and he Abbot has has power under the 404 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: federal Constitution to protect his state in the absence of 405 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: the federal government doing its job. Is that does that 406 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: sound like what his argument is to you? 407 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's one hundred percent his argument, and Atorney General 408 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 4: Ken Paxton, who has doubled down on that as well. 409 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: Even in a letter that he had written in response 410 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 4: to the federal government putting pressure on the state of Texas, 411 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: he even said, you guys, DHS, the Biden administration has 412 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: said that you have the constitutional authority to secure the border. 413 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: And he said, so when are you going to start? 414 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 4: And so you know, they're saying, we're stepping up where 415 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: you're not. And that's what these twenty five Republican GOP 416 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 4: governors are also echoing if they're standing in solidarity with 417 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: Texas Governor Greg Abbott for doing the job that President 418 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: Biden's not. And here's the thing. Texas has seen numbers 419 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: drop across the board. Every sector in Texas has seen 420 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: numbers lower than they wore this time last year. People 421 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: are going to path of least resistance. They're going to Arizona. 422 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 4: There's no river there, it's cold right now. There's no 423 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: massive concerts in a wire or you know, shipping containers 424 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 4: in Arizona. So the Tucson sector has maintained to be 425 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 4: the busiest sector and it's still the busiest sector or 426 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: right now. But we looked at numbers from the timeframe 427 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: of a week in January when the park was seized 428 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: and closed, and we compared that to the week in 429 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: January last year, and across the board, Texas is seeing 430 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: fewer numbers, and so it does look like what they're 431 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 4: working is mate or what they're doing is having an impact. 432 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 4: But when it comes down to securing the nation, right, 433 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: Texas is only securing Texas. They're going to push people 434 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: to the outskirts and they're going to continue to come. 435 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: So it's not necessarily solving an illegal immigration issue, but 436 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: Texas that says, hey, we're protecting our constituents in our state. 437 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Allie, thank you very much for coming on with us. 438 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Excellent report. 439 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. Hopefully we can 440 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: chat again soon. 441 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: Yes, Ali Bradley, and she's with News Nation. Look for 442 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: that on your cable system. It's a new news channel 443 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: and she's the Southwest correspondent Texas. I can't remember this 444 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of revolt coming from a state government over anything 445 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: in my life. And Abbott is not backing down in 446 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: the least even after losing that Supreme Court decision. So 447 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: tomorrow could be an interesting day, I'm sure the Biden administration. 448 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if Joe is aware of what's going on, 449 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: but certainly the Biden administration would would like a graceful 450 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: way out of this. It is not a good look 451 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: at an election of your campaign to be having a 452 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: face off with one state's national guard because the governor 453 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: thinks you've completely botched your border security plan. It's fascinating. 454 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: All right, We've got more coming up, and I do 455 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: want to get to this story about the Max nine jets, 456 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: which makes ever really happy that they're going to be 457 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: up in the Scottish Thrilled wrote twenty six A and B. 458 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Remember that that's what you want. It's for a plug. 459 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 5: Well, they must have worked, those officials must have worked 460 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: well fast being able to check out all those planes. 461 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI 462 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: A six forty coming up just a moment. 463 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta, we gotta run this story. In fact, Tony, 464 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: get uh which which uh? Get the thing about the 465 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: gig Get to think about the caves and Sacramento that 466 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: story ready? 467 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 6: Uh? 468 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Or at Midestine that's where they are, all right? So 469 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: it's true. The Boeing CEO met with some US senators 470 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill yesterday. Uh and and David Calhoun's his name, 471 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: David Calhoun is the accountants guy who became the Boeing CEO. 472 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: And he's got he's got no defense for what happened, 473 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: because according to reports, it's Boeing that screwed up the 474 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: plane because they they took the door out, put it 475 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: back in, and apparently forgot the bolts. It was never 476 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: bolted back in the plane and that's why the door 477 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: plug went flying a couple of weeks ago. Leaving Portland 478 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: headed for Ontario, is headed down here in southern California. 479 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: So Calhoun says, I'm here today in the spirit of 480 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: transparency and to answer all their questions, because they have 481 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: a lot of them. I wish they would drop all 482 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: these officials, drop that word transparency, just say you're you're 483 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell the truth. You're going to give all the details, 484 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: not hold anything back. All right, talk in English. I 485 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: don't know anyone in private life whoever used the word transparency. 486 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: And it wasn't always like this. It's one of these 487 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: words that all these idiot politicians and officials and media 488 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: people picked up on. It irritating as hell. So they're 489 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: still reviewing data on early inspections of the planes. Eventually 490 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: it's going to approve safety review instructions so the planes 491 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: can go back to service. It's going to happen soon, 492 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: but they will not predict, so they stopped trying to predict. 493 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: According to an FAA administrator, but as soon as we 494 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: get it sorted out, it'll be up again. And again, 495 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: this was the fuselage panel. It was a door plug 496 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: that was used in an exit door passageway and on 497 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: some models of the Max nine, depending on the airline configuration, 498 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: you don't need an exit in the back of the plane, 499 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: so they plug it up with a fake door and 500 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: that's what blew out. And it had been taken out 501 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: at the factory in Washington and then reinstalled, and somebody 502 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: forgot to put the bolts on, and whatever inspection process 503 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: there was or paperwork, there was, nobody caught it all. Right, Now, 504 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: let's go on to Modesto. A lot of media around 505 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: the country is picking this up because it is so bizarre. 506 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about something from time to time 507 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: called de evolution that and you see it in the streets, right, 508 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: You see people acting pre caveman line animal like because 509 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: of the mental illness, the drugs, and the fact that 510 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: laws aren't enforced anymore, and the beasts inside people are 511 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: now coming out and they're not acting like modern humans anymore. Well, 512 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: this is an example of it up in the Modesto 513 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: area where they found caves constructed for shelter by homeless people. 514 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: And let's listen to this news story from CBS thirteen Sacramento. 515 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 5: Hidden homeless caves jumps along the Tuolami River in Modesto. 516 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 6: These are basically stairs that they made to get down 517 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: to the dwelling. 518 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 5: Tracy Rojas took us on the treacherous walk to see 519 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 5: the craters created near Crater Avenue and. 520 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 6: If one of these were to collapse, it would be devastating. 521 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: This whole side would come down and into the water. 522 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: Seventy six hundred pounds of trash, that's how much was 523 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: cleared out by volunteer groups and police over the weekend. 524 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 6: This was fully furnished. Yes, there was betting. There was 525 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 6: little things up on the mantle lack of a better word, mantle, 526 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 6: food items, drugs, gun. 527 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 7: We had a hard time figure out how they got 528 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 7: so much stuff down in there, considering how hard it was, 529 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 7: it's always harder to get up the hill and get 530 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 7: it out. 531 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: Chris Scuptel was one of these volunteers who says they 532 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 5: found eight caves in total, but it wasn't the group's 533 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 5: first time down here. 534 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 7: And we really don't have a known solution to deal 535 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 7: with it. 536 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 5: In November twenty twenty two, CBS thirteen took a tour 537 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 5: of the cleared out caves, nowhere near as elaborate as 538 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: they are now. 539 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 6: You can see the hooks on the wall where they 540 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 6: had bottles and things like that hanging down. 541 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: Painted pictures, and even a makeshift fireplace. 542 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: This was someone's home. 543 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 6: What do you think needs to be down to stop 544 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 6: this from happening? Well, I think we need more emphasis 545 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 6: on the homeless. I mean the point where you can 546 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: see torri that they're desperate. 547 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: We ask Modesto police and the city what's being done 548 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: to prevent people from coming back to cave camp. The 549 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 5: response they will continue to monitor the area and connect 550 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: the homeless to services. 551 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 7: It was already improven that people are willing to dig 552 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 7: those things out, so I don't think filling them back 553 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 7: in with any material would work. 554 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 5: The caves cleared for now, but the neighborhood near the 555 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 5: river feeling no real sense of peace in this problem. 556 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 6: It's a hazard for not only the homeless who live 557 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 6: in there, but the people who are walking up here. 558 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 5: Yes, erosion, rising waters, washing the belongings into the river, 559 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 5: and contamination are all concerns. Rojas says that park rangers 560 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 5: are planning on putting up cameras around this area and 561 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 5: also signage making it an official park that way that 562 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 5: they can have more enforcement. 563 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there you go. So there is a solution. 564 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: You declare it a park. It becomes off limits for 565 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: these vagrants, and you put cameras up and you actually 566 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: track what's going on the video. And then when you 567 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: say you do patrols. And when you see people moving in, 568 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: I mean seventy six hundred pounds of trash. And they 569 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: went inside the caves and they were decorated with furnishings 570 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: like it was people's living rooms and bedrooms. There was 571 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: a table, there's crates filled with supplies, shelves, they had food, condiments, 572 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: and they couldn't figure out how the homeless people got 573 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: in there and lugged all this stuff up or down. 574 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: Actually they had to get it up the hill and 575 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: out and down into the caves. Well, obviously these people 576 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: are capable of doing some serious physical labor, right, that's 577 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: why this idea. Well, they're desperate, they're not desperate they 578 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: want to live outdoors. They want to live in the 579 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: caves because they're insane. They're mentally ill. And if we 580 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: were international society, these people put in a mental institution. 581 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: But we keep we have all these busts. I mean, 582 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: how many cliches and buzz phrases did you hear? You know, 583 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: and from the reporter too. When when the media and 584 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: government officials start talking to each other, it's just a 585 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: torrent of bull crap. It's just the same old You 586 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: have to have some more outreach focus on the home 587 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: is because of the desperation and they're insane, but they're strong, 588 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: aren't they. All of a sudden, they're willing to do work. 589 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're able to create a mini apartment 590 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: and draggle your furniture up a hill and then down 591 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: into a cave, there's probably a lot of blue collar 592 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: jobs you'd be good at. They don't want that because 593 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: they can't deal with the responsibility. They can't deal with 594 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: the discipline, They can't deal with the human relationships that 595 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: you need to have when you work, because they're crazy. 596 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: Their bodies can physically do some of this stuff. Yeah, 597 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: local services. I mean, I'm just looking through these news 598 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: stories and it's just the same. And also they had 599 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: drugs and weapons because a lot of these guys are 600 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: just bad guys. 601 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: All right. 602 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: These are the people who are let out of prison early, 603 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: let out of jail early. They commit crimes all the time. 604 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: That's how they exist. They steal stuff and they live 605 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: off their stolen goods. Are we come back? We got 606 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: a lot. 607 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: Well, you know what. 608 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: That trial is opening up here in La of that 609 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: rich woman whose husband founded the Grossman Burden Center, Rebecca Grossman. 610 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: She was the one who ran down those two little 611 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: kids in the valley in Westlake Village. 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