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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be excited about. First, we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about Super Bowl Sunday at Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode nine seventy six, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals

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Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. Right at the five, hit to

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Speaker 2: the end zone for the Cardinal touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monster.

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griler.

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Speaker 1: And so it begins, Danny. Six months now without an

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Speaker 1: So if you want to go regular season, we have

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Speaker 3: Ooh, I miss already? What are we supposed to watch baseball.

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Speaker 1: There's basketball.

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Speaker 3: No, we'll watch baseball.

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Speaker 1: There's spring football, but it's not NFL football, So yes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been a long time. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: But what do we think? Super Bowl sixty one? Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday for me, a solid day. I always enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: The game was so what it was. Seahawks beat the

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Speaker 3: I did say on Cardinal's Underground with Paul and Darren

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Speaker 3: That's what's been said for a long time, and there's

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Speaker 1: Six sacs, eleven quarterback hits, three takeaways including a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: My jaw dropped when I saw that play that was

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Speaker 1: Donald wasn't great, but he was good enough on Sunday

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Speaker 3: And I know that it was somewhat tough for Cardinals

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Speaker 3: Little head coaching experience is better than no head coaching experience,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Mike Lafloor would probably trust anyone's

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Speaker 1: a feel of the game, but dictating what you want

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Speaker 1: as a defense, not react. I think sometimes a lot

436
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Speaker 1: of defenses will wait to see what the offense does.

437
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Speaker 1: Why wait, We're gonna do what we do and it's

438
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Speaker 1: up to the offense to adjust.

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting when you almost kind of like

440
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Speaker 3: discredit of saying, oh, I'm someone who looks at three

441
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: four four three maybe a little more than I need to. Okay,

442
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: that's fine. But to counter that and almost defend you

443
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Speaker 3: thinking that way, is that's really important as you build

444
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Speaker 3: the staff. That's really important as free agency in the

445
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: draft come to be right. Look at defensive lineman Kalais

446
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: Campbell as a great example, just wrapped up season eighteen.

447
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: He's a pending free agent, unsure what he's going to

448
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Speaker 3: do in regards to his future. So let's say that

449
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Speaker 3: Campbell does not return to playing the nvolved, maybe doesn't

450
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Speaker 3: return to the Cardinals. What does Arizona decide to do

451
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Speaker 3: to replace him? And when you look at some of

452
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Speaker 3: the other pending free agents on the defensive line, how

453
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Speaker 3: do you replace them in pairing with the pending free

454
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Speaker 3: agents in the outside linebackers room or you're in the

455
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Speaker 3: side linebackers right. So, while you do want to be

456
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Speaker 3: adaptable and you want to be flexible and have your

457
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Speaker 3: best eleven out there, it is important to still have

458
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Speaker 3: that foundation because having that right now in the off season,

459
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Speaker 3: it's what's going to allow you to build your team

460
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Speaker 3: in the off season and make the right free agency moves,

461
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Speaker 3: make the right draft picks, put the right money and

462
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Speaker 3: the right resources where they need to go so that

463
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Speaker 3: you have that true foundation. So I agree, I think

464
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Speaker 3: that right to a certain extent, you need to be adaptable,

465
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Speaker 3: you need to be flexible, but you still need to

466
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Speaker 3: know what the foundation is so that you're making the

467
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Speaker 3: right decisions as a front office.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how many defensive linemen do you want? How many

469
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Speaker 1: outside linebackers do you want? Is there an outside linebacker

470
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden finds a roll with their hand

471
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Speaker 1: in the dirt more often than that, or outside linebackers

472
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Speaker 1: that is not going to drop into coverage, or a

473
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Speaker 1: dB that is going to be able to move inside

474
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Speaker 1: the box like a Buddha baker. So yeah, there's and

475
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Speaker 1: we heard this from Michael Laflor as well, that there

476
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Speaker 1: are foundational aspects and core concepts. What are those? And

477
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Speaker 1: I think that's the next question, And maybe maybe Michael

478
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Speaker 1: Laflor does know what he wants. Yet at the same time,

479
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Speaker 1: your point, Danny, Okay, you're inheriting a number of players, Okay,

480
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Speaker 1: what do they do well? So how do we best

481
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Speaker 1: fit them into our core concept of an offense of

482
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Speaker 1: a defense.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think we'd be remiss not to say that

484
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Speaker 3: that makes sense of conversations that very likely happened throughout

485
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Speaker 3: the interview process with all of the head coach candidates.

486
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Speaker 3: You know, this is different than three years ago when

487
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Speaker 3: Mani Ausoin for it as the first time jam was

488
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Speaker 3: looking for a head coach, and the understanding that he

489
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Speaker 3: was going to have to do some pretty significant turnover

490
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Speaker 3: with the roster. That's not the case right now. Austin

491
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Speaker 3: Ford has built the team on what he believes can

492
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Speaker 3: be successful. Now that's not to say that changes won't

493
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Speaker 3: happen on this roster. Of course, that's going to happen

494
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Speaker 3: every year. The foundation has been set, though, and that's

495
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Speaker 3: what's different this time around. And I would be very

496
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Speaker 3: shocked if, at least to some degree, that conversation didn't

497
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Speaker 3: come up with every candidate of where do you see

498
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Speaker 3: this team improving and how can you make it work

499
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Speaker 3: with this group of people as the foundation for what

500
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Speaker 3: we have built and what we want going forward.

501
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Speaker 1: What did we hear a lot when the news was

502
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Speaker 1: made that Jonathan Gannon was no longer going to be

503
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Speaker 1: the head coach. We heard a lot of player development.

504
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Speaker 1: And that's to JAG's credit. That was something that he

505
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Speaker 1: mentioned prior to his dismissal that Monty austin Ford believes

506
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: that there is talent on this roster. Heck, Michael Fuller

507
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Speaker 1: said the same thing. He sees the talent all right, Well,

508
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: the talent is there, so how do you bring that

509
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Speaker 1: out of the individuals and make them go from good

510
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: to great, great to excellent and a max Mountain. For example,

511
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Speaker 1: Day two pick, second round, lost favor fell out of

512
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: favor with this coaching staff late in the season, but

513
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Speaker 1: a talented corner started a bunch of games. Is see

514
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Speaker 1: someone that all of a sudden finds a spot on

515
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Speaker 1: this defense? Because was it him? Was it the coaches?

516
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Speaker 1: Combination of both? But I think there's a handful of

517
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Speaker 1: players that Darius Rominson, someone who a Day one pick,

518
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Speaker 1: a first round pick, there's an expectation, all right, how

519
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Speaker 1: do you get that out of him? Is it him

520
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Speaker 1: or is it putting him in better situations to make

521
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Speaker 1: a play?

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior, There's a whole list of players that

523
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Speaker 3: would fit into this category. You're absolutely right. Player development,

524
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Speaker 3: I'm sure is something that also came up very consistently,

525
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Speaker 3: and these interviews with the different head coaching candidates given

526
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Speaker 3: it something we'd heard from the general manager himself.

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Speaker 1: Glad you brought up Marvin, because again going back to

528
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Speaker 1: your one on one Azycardinals dot Com Cardinals YouTube channel,

529
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Speaker 1: he brought up Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison JUNI

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Speaker 1: in fact, you brought those three up, and Mike said,

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Speaker 1: those were the first three people I saw when I

532
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Speaker 1: came into the building for his in person interview, and

533
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Speaker 1: he called it a great omen that those three it's

534
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Speaker 1: the off season, they could be doing whatever they want,

535
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Speaker 1: but they're here in January. Again, everyone's either having or

536
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Speaker 1: getting better, and those three, your three foundational pieces, as

537
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Speaker 1: far as we definitely know, are going to be here

538
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Speaker 1: next season. Offensively, yes, there's a question at quarterback, but

539
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Speaker 1: you have your all pro tied end and two wide receivers.

540
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Speaker 1: You can debate who's one who's two, but at least

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Speaker 1: you've got guys who are able to catch the football

542
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Speaker 1: and the case of Michael Wilson, certainly block open up

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Speaker 1: rushing lanes.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to be in the building. And this

545
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Speaker 3: is something La Floor said later in the off season.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say later in terms of June or July,

547
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: but around OTA's or mini camp. Right, this isn't April

548
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 3: or May. This was January, and the three of them

549
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: were having breakfast together early in the morning. I also

550
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Speaker 3: know Arizona's a desirable place right for people to stay

551
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Speaker 3: and to train, even if they're not a cardinal in

552
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Speaker 3: the offseason. The point being, those three were here together

553
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Speaker 3: and that does say something, and that does say something

554
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Speaker 3: at this time as the tides turn and you have

555
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Speaker 3: a new head coach and you got to have buy in.

556
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Speaker 3: And there were almost two dozen players that lined the

557
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Speaker 3: back of the auditorium for Michaelaflor's introductory press conference. That

558
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Speaker 3: doesn't happen everywhere. So I do think that says a

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Speaker 3: lot about the support that he has right from the

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Speaker 3: jump in this building.

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Speaker 1: And Mike said that during's introductory press conference. He said

562
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Speaker 1: it here in studio, he said it with you as well, Danny,

563
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Speaker 1: that seeing that number meant the world to him, And

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Speaker 1: even as he told us here in studio, kind of

565
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Speaker 1: shook him up a little bit because all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's buy in already, or at least there's excitement from

567
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Speaker 1: those players to figure out. All right, I know I'm

568
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Speaker 1: going to be here. Who's leading us. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear what they have to say. First, impressions matter. Now

570
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Speaker 1: what can I do to help this new head coach out?

571
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Speaker 1: And then I'll ultimately get us to where the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: and Patriots were on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I'll be very curious how the

574
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Speaker 3: NFC West shakes out. I know, you know, this is

575
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Speaker 3: what twelve hours after the season officially ended for everybody,

576
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Speaker 3: but the fact that Seattle goes out on top, LA

577
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: was not far behind them, San Francisco not far behind them.

578
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: It's no secret the Cardinals have some ground to make up.

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Speaker 3: The fact they have someone who has coached in this

580
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Speaker 3: division for seven years hopefully gives them a leg up

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Speaker 3: on that.

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Speaker 1: And it didn't seem like it was a daunting task

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Speaker 1: or too much. It didn't seem like that aspect of

584
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Speaker 1: this opening among the ten, the NFC West, the other

585
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Speaker 1: three teams in the division, it's a large hill to climb.

586
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Speaker 1: It didn't seem like that scared Mike Laflora at all.

587
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: He almost appeared to welcome the challenge and coming in

588
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Speaker 1: and maybe matching wits with a Kyle Shanahan and a

589
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Speaker 1: Sean McVay, two of his mentors, and then saying, hey,

590
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: if it was easy, anyone would want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it seems less scary because he's got such close

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Speaker 3: relationships with those two. I think he's also seen as

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Speaker 3: have success in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: There's an aspect of wanting to do it yourself. How

595
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Speaker 1: can I'm successful in what I do as an assistant

596
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: on whatever position, coach coordinaty level? How would I be

597
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: as a head coach. And again it goes back to

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Speaker 1: the self awareness of Mike during his introductory press conference.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you got this right. I hope

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Speaker 1: you got it right. And that was him talking about

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals selecting him as head coach. Again, not

602
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot of bravado, not a lot of slogans or

603
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: coach speak, just genuine, very authentic. In listening to him

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Speaker 1: during the introductory press conference and then both.

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Speaker 3: Of our sit downs, I agree, very humble, didn't come

606
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Speaker 3: in making a lot of promises. It was very self aware.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Self aware is a good description on Michae Laflora. Now

609
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Speaker 1: we just need to figure out who's going to be

610
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: on his coaching staff, and then after that it's free agency,

611
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: and before that we get the scouting combine. You and

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Speaker 1: I will be an indie Annapolis in two weeks time,

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Speaker 1: two and a half weeks time roughly.

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Speaker 3: And before that even is the window for a franchise tag? Yes,

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Speaker 3: although I'm not sure. I'd have to look. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure the Cardinals are in a spot to use that

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Speaker 3: on anybody.

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Speaker 1: I would not expect any of their free agents to

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Speaker 1: be to be worthy of a tag. At this pointless

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Speaker 1: I'm missing something, but yeah, there's certain benchmarks, the scouting combine,

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Speaker 1: free agency, the draft, OTAs, mini camp, and then we're

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Speaker 1: right back into training camp.

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Speaker 3: In year one, we're gonna be thinking, oh my gosh,

624
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Speaker 3: I can't believe it's already. We started this podcast episode

625
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: where I was booing the fact that we're not going

626
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Speaker 3: to have a regular season game for seven months, and

627
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Speaker 3: then we're gonna get to the point I'm going to say,

628
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you blink, and then it's here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of the regular season, did you

630
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Speaker 1: see some of the news that came out of San Francisco,

631
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Speaker 1: Most of its bad news. As far as your travel

632
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: plans for the regular season, Australia is off the table

633
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Speaker 1: the night.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the Cardinals and forty nine Ers played

635
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: each other in Mexico City, but that's a much closer trip.

636
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Speaker 3: And I know that LA has marketing rights in Australia,

637
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: so that's why they're the home team. That was the appeal.

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00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm just curious the appeal to make that a divisional

639
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: game there, because I would just think that for LA

640
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: to give up a home game to give up a

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00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: home game against a division rival seems well like an

642
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: interesting choice.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. When the Rams host the forty nine Ers,

644
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: it's really a home game for San Francisco. There's a

645
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: number of forty nine Ers fans in attendance, so it's

646
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: not that far to travel. Almost feels like the Rams

647
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Speaker 1: are on the road in their own building.

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Speaker 3: I was only saying, I said this on Cardinals Underground

649
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Speaker 3: of I'd love to go to Australia, and if there's

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Speaker 3: one way to travel, it'd be on a private charter.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I was I was gonna be okay

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Speaker 3: with the what a sixteen eighteen hour flight whatever it

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Speaker 3: comes out to be, alas, it will not.

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Speaker 1: Be the Cardinals, and it sounds like Paris is going

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Speaker 1: to be off the table as well. Unfortunately for you, Danny,

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Speaker 1: this Aints are the designated home team, and according to

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Speaker 1: one report I saw, the Cleveland Browns will be the You.

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Speaker 3: Know what if if somebody, if somebody in the UK,

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Speaker 3: if somebody in Europe goes to that game or watches

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Speaker 3: on TV and walks away saying the NFL did its job.

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan. I am a Cleveland Browns fan. Props

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Speaker 3: to you, Roger Goodell, I will be shocked.

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Speaker 1: It's the Schuder Sanders effect.

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Speaker 3: Heah, he's a Pro Bowl quarterback, right, that is true.

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Speaker 1: A couple of other options. What do you how do

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Speaker 1: you feel about here? Here you go Brazil Rio de Janeiro,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are playing in the game. The Cardinals go

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Speaker 1: to Dallas. Here's the key though for you, Danny, do

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Speaker 1: you want to go back home to Dallas or would

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Speaker 1: you go buy a family and go to Brazil?

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Speaker 3: Both both be great, right, Like I'd find plenty of

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Speaker 3: other times there are reasons to go home. Look, my

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Speaker 3: connections still with the Cowboys, I'll due respect them. None

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Speaker 3: of them have any legit tie to the league office itself.

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Speaker 3: So me hearing from certain people, oh, I feel like

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be the Cowboys and the Cardinals. Like that's

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Speaker 3: that's just wishful thinking, similar to Australia. If I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go to Rio, okay, great, love to do it, and

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Speaker 3: you know, private charter and then the bus to take

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Speaker 3: it to him from the airport. Now, I would be

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Speaker 3: curious of you know, how much do you really see

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Speaker 3: of Rio from what we've heard from you know, teams

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Speaker 3: that play there in the past. It's not the safest area,

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Speaker 3: and similar to when we were in Mexico City, might

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Speaker 3: be highly advised and suggested to not leave the hotel.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure that it would necessarily equate to

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Speaker 3: a quote unquote vacation before the game. Would still be

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Speaker 3: a really cool experience as is. It's always a cool

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Speaker 3: experience when I get to go home and see my

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Speaker 3: family in Dallas too.

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Speaker 1: So win, win, Craig, Dallas, Brazil, Dallas, Brazil, Mom and Dad.

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Speaker 1: I'll catch you in the off season in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Mexico City, I'm sure is still definitely in

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Speaker 1: the cards as well. Cardinals were just in Mexico City

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Speaker 1: a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Ago playing twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: So okay. So it's been three seasons since, four seasons

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Speaker 1: since Okay, I could see Mexico City as a potential

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Speaker 1: international game for the Cardinals in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's close. That's a team that has marketing rights

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Speaker 3: in that area, so that plays a large role, at

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Speaker 3: least in the home I guess no, because the home

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Speaker 3: the home team's already been announced now they have from

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Speaker 3: Mexico City's so interesting for some of the other ones, Well,

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Speaker 3: then I guess that's a possibility. Now the Cardinals would

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Speaker 3: have to be willing to give up a home game

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Speaker 3: at State from Stadium. That's the give and take.

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Speaker 1: The schedule comes out typically comes out mid May. Some

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Speaker 1: of these games get leaked and then they'll do a

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Speaker 1: run up and most of the international games will get

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Speaker 1: announced prior to the entire seventeen week schedule.

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Speaker 3: They do a whole show for everything. Now, so you

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Speaker 3: have the draft the very end of April, and then

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Speaker 3: they'll have a show talking about all the international games,

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Speaker 3: and then the schedule will be released, usually around the

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Speaker 3: second week of May.

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Speaker 1: And we, as you mentioned full circle here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: cover two, yeah, six months without an NFL football game,

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Speaker 1: at least the preseason. But as we just talked, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be something going on darn near every single month

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Speaker 1: before we get.

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Speaker 3: To pre especially out here. We've got spring training. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna have like four games a day.

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Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun. And then of

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Speaker 1: course Danny and I had to Indianapolis in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, and uh, I'll do my best to lighten

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Speaker 1: the load a little bit, so you don't feel like

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Speaker 1: you're talking to.

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Speaker 3: People. Always good of the fun, part of the fun

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Speaker 3: to be out.

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Speaker 1: There work, but it's it's a lot of work, especially

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Speaker 1: when you travel.

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Speaker 3: And I know that this might not be as you know,

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Speaker 3: the draft classes supposedly not as you know, filled with

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Speaker 3: big names or skill position players, but the Cardinals sitting

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Speaker 3: at three still has a lot of potential and a

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Speaker 3: lot of things can still happen between not just now

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Speaker 3: in the draft, but even now in the combine.

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Speaker 1: And then picks near the top of the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: seventh rounds as well. So yeah, there's going to be

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Speaker 1: an influx of talent coming into the building. It's just

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Speaker 1: a matter of who those players are, what positions they play,

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Speaker 1: and what kind of influenced Michael Fluor might have on

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Speaker 1: whether it's an offensive person or a defensive person. Then again,

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Speaker 1: the next key is that staff, and specifically I think

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Speaker 1: the last Domino might be defensive coordinator, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get to be able to talk about all these new

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Speaker 1: hires coming into the building. So good stuff, And uh,

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Speaker 1: I think it was a solid Super Bowl Sunday, all

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Speaker 1: things considered. From the game, the halftime pre and postgame.

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Speaker 1: I I had a good day, and like I speak

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Speaker 1: for everyone, but I had a good day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was beautiful side especially for those who found

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Speaker 3: their way out at waste management. Great great weekend for

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Speaker 3: that with all the weather.

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Speaker 1: And the good news is next year Super Bowl Sunday

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Speaker 1: falls on President's Day weekend meaningful.

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Speaker 3: And that changes things.

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Speaker 1: Don't get too.

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Speaker 3: Just kidd We might be working, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Hey, good points or flying back? Hey? Like how you

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Speaker 1: think Danny should be a lot of fun this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Cardinal fans a lot to be excited about in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. And on that note, we will put a

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Speaker 1: lid on. This edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Yundai,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Mama Hundre, our associate producer

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Speaker 1: Cody Fincher. For Danny, surek, I'm Craig real Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two