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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from The Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from The

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 2: One thing you all have been checking out that has

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Speaker 2: been the talk of the universe for a week has

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Speaker 2: been The America's Next Top Model Netflix documentary. This three

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Speaker 2: episode documentary broke Twitter. I want to say, maybe today

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Speaker 2: is the first day it died down and it was

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Speaker 2: up a week.

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Speaker 3: Ago today, So Dustin Claudium Blue.

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Speaker 2: In this recap, as you all know, they did a

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Speaker 2: deep dive into Top Model, talked about the industry, exposed

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Speaker 2: some behind the scenes secrets. They got Tyred Banks and

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Speaker 2: sit in the chair, which is so like iconic to

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Speaker 2: get the creator of the show. But a lot of

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Speaker 2: accusations were flown around. Some of the biggest highlights included Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Miss Jay suffered a stroke and at the time of filming.

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Speaker 3: This happened a year ago when they filmed it.

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Speaker 2: A year ago, when they were filming it, he was

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Speaker 2: unable to walk.

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Speaker 3: A year later. As of today, he's now able to walk.

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Speaker 3: But he did yes, God is good all the time.

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Speaker 2: They did start a go fund me account guys, because

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Speaker 2: he needs twenty four summing care and the go fund

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Speaker 2: me request is one hundred thousand dollars. He mentioned in

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Speaker 2: that documentary that Tyra Banks never visited him in the

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Speaker 2: hospital and that the only thing he received was a

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Speaker 2: text message, but she never mentioned seeing him. In the

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Speaker 2: same documentary, Mister j Who is the Ultimate Pretty Boy

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Speaker 2: for Life, he mentioned.

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Speaker 3: That when he decided to leave the show, he.

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Speaker 2: Sent tyring email. She responded three days later saying I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 2: He alleged that after they begged him to at least

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Speaker 2: give them one more season, he saw Tyra for the

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Speaker 2: first time since sending the email, and that she will

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Speaker 2: only talk to him if cameras were roaming, and that

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Speaker 2: when the when the producers had to reset cameras.

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Speaker 3: And all that she wants to speak to him. He

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Speaker 3: said it was uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: They did ask Tyra on camera, is a good time

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Speaker 2: to talk about uh, mister J and she was like, no.

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Speaker 3: I probably call him.

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Speaker 2: As of today, she has not called him. They taped

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Speaker 2: that a year ago, so a lot of things happened.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with Claudia. And Claudia, you obviously

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Speaker 2: been in that world, you know, not the world of

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Speaker 2: course supermodels, but just like it was.

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 3: You know you are a former Passion girl.

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts when you saw the documentary and

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Speaker 2: did you think it did tire any favors?

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Speaker 5: Why she win a trench coat in the interview, Like

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Speaker 5: Like she's like she was like on her way somewhere

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Speaker 5: and she just stopped by the documentary like just pop

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Speaker 6: Like it was weird. Right, she's on the case. She's

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Speaker 3: She's a spy on the case.

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Speaker 5: She wasn't give someone that was supposed to be inspected

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Speaker 5: gadget you know what I'm saying, Like she wasn't coming

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Speaker 5: with it. No, it didn't were any favors. I think

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Speaker 5: she thought it was. I think with Tyra, she like

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Speaker 5: and they don't tell her like no, that's not believable.

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Speaker 5: You know, I do think that she's also I do

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Speaker 5: think there was some things that Tyra was involved in

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Speaker 5: that was very foul. The girl Shandy, the cheating on

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Speaker 5: And I feel like she was sexually assaulted and to

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Speaker 5: it was an affair.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're just recording in reality, so absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: I feel like she should have had some more protection

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Speaker 5: feel like that girl got raped. That's what it looked

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Speaker 5: rape situation, and everybody just like wrote it off like

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Speaker 6: They brought the boys in, put them on seat, got

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Speaker 5: Pounds wet and in a hot tub with liquor. And

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Speaker 5: Fee I thought that was very whack. I did not

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Speaker 5: like that. But I also think that everybody else jumping

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Speaker 5: on a bandwagon to just be like it was Tyre, Tira, Tyra,

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Speaker 5: when Tyra was not alone in saying a lot of

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Speaker 5: those mean and hurtful things. So it was contested, let's

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Speaker 5: not act like Tyra was just so mean, and Janice

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Speaker 5: But Tyra was gonna get all the smoke. I think

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Speaker 5: that all are complicit. They all bear a little responsibility

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Speaker 5: in that show, and to just be like everybody distanced

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Speaker 5: themselves like, oh, it wasn't mean, Yes it was, but

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Speaker 5: in their defense, reality TV was way more wicked back then,

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Speaker 5: and so was television. Like I think we're looking at

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Speaker 5: old school television through twenty twenty six lenses, right, think

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Speaker 5: about television in the eighties and nineties and two thousands,

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Speaker 5: All in the Family was on. They used to say

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Speaker 5: the N word, they used to say the R word.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to mental health, they would say midge everything.

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Speaker 5: All the words were a thing that all reasonly just

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Speaker 5: that's the thing that started changing as of late. So

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Speaker 5: I think that the way we speak about each other

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Speaker 5: And I think it's a little unfair to judge her

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Speaker 5: by today's standards. But with that being said, there was

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Speaker 5: still lots of way she definitely was She could have

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, I think it was the network more

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Speaker 7: Okay, Dustin, Yeah, I agree with Claudia. I agree with you, Claudia.

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Speaker 7: I think that it is a bit. It's just not

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Speaker 7: I don't see it yielding anything fruitful to look at

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Speaker 7: these old television programs through a lens of how we

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Speaker 7: fucked up shit to those contestants on that show. They

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Speaker 7: you look back at it, and I think those are

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Speaker 4: I also agree with Claudia.

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Speaker 7: Although Tyra Banks is a cuckoo clock right, and she's

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Speaker 7: always doing Zaney, you know, she didn't lost it.

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Speaker 4: She's always acting like she's out to lunch, you know.

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Speaker 7: The whole the over dramatic commercials and the voie sees

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Speaker 7: and all that stuff is just a lot, right, But

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's fair to throw all the way

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Speaker 7: to all that shit on there on her. Now me personally,

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Speaker 7: I never watched Top Model at the height of its popularity.

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Speaker 4: The only know I.

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Speaker 7: Never was into it, bro The only season I watched

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Speaker 7: so I'm like, let me see what this is about.

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Speaker 7: So a lot of the stuff that I saw in

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Speaker 7: that documentary was new information for me. It was completely

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Speaker 7: those girls. That was just inappropriate. That that is something.

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Speaker 7: The inappropriateness of that is ever green. That's not something

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Speaker 7: it ain't cool now, right. But I also think that Tyer,

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Speaker 7: like Claudia said.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't alone.

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Speaker 7: Remember I didn't watch, you know what I'm saying the

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Speaker 7: about how Janis Dickinson was showing her ass on that show.

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Speaker 4: She's the one who pissed me off after I watched that.

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Speaker 7: She sat up there with her Ozzy Osbourne looking ass.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: She set up there body shaming motherfuckers and calling them

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Speaker 7: and the whole entire time, she literally looks like a

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. She looks like somebody.

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Speaker 7: She looked like somebody whittled and carved her face into

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Speaker 7: the audacity sitting up there looking like the scream mask.

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Speaker 4: You know that mask from the screen movie.

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Speaker 7: She's sitting up there looking like the goddamn scream mask

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Speaker 7: talking about Takara fat.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're too skinny.

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Speaker 7: So now what you know what I'm saying, Since we

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Speaker 4: Because she's evil on the inside.

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Speaker 7: Heard the things that she said to them women, them

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Speaker 7: She was just up there saying whatever she wanted, looking

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Speaker 7: And I hope all of them cuts her mother fucking

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Speaker 4: And I'm personally would a broke.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't have been able to keep it together for

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Speaker 7: or to her, well, you look like a match so

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Speaker 7: what you want to do?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 7: You literally looked like somebody took your ank took you

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's what she looks like.

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Speaker 7: So I just didn't appreciate that, and that is what

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Speaker 7: I took away from the document documentary. Much love to

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Speaker 7: miss Jay. I wish him the most healing. Whatever their pronouns,

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Speaker 7: I wish him the most healing. You know what I'm

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Speaker 7: saying and a speedy recovery, and I was moved to

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Speaker 7: moved to to to almost shedding tears when Nigel and

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Speaker 7: that Nigel was touching Miss Jay's arm, that's a real relationship.

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Speaker 7: That was real love, and it was on a just

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Speaker 7: on a very human level. Of all the crazy shit

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Speaker 7: in that documentary, I'm glad people got to see that

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Speaker 7: part of three people just being able to connect and

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Speaker 4: But fuck Janie Dickinson. Fuck Janice Dickinson.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know why didn't nobody custs her ass

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Speaker 7: the fuck out on that panel.

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Speaker 5: She used to be pretty back in the day, but

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Speaker 5: then she like, you know, she was like getting on,

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Speaker 9: She has not changed.

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Speaker 8: She deserves every bit of smoke that she is getting.

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Speaker 8: A black woman said to Tyra Banks, I cannot get

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Speaker 8: There's another documentary coming out on March eleventh on E

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Speaker 3: It was twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 8: I think we're over extending grace to Tyra. I think

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Speaker 4: I know what you're saying. I ain't even know.

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Speaker 8: The perfect example is a perfect example is Claudia can't

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Speaker 3: And so I'm sorry.

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Speaker 9: The head of the fish stinks from the head.

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Speaker 3: That's how I feel about it.

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Speaker 5: I did the things from the head. I also think

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Speaker 6: I mean, I got the smoke. But then there was

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Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of other I feel like

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Speaker 4: She did a lot of things that were fucked up,

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Speaker 4: Right, we are recounting of the timeline.

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Speaker 7: We we she she didn't do shit she was supposed

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Speaker 7: So I completely understand how we've all arrived at this point.

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Speaker 7: And I think that ultimately the accountability piece is what

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Speaker 4: That's all I wanted to say. So Toymer, goddamn it,

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Speaker 4: same we were all ruined. I have never yelled at

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Speaker 4: I'm super like this docu.

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Speaker 6: It made her look if you had a doubt, it

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Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here's my two cents.

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Speaker 2: I actually agree with everything you guys said, and that's

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Speaker 3: One thing she did say that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, understood, right, because I do at least want

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Speaker 2: makes sense. Bosses have bosses. You're right about that, right.

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Speaker 2: Tyra Banks created a show. The major networks turned her down.

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Speaker 3: She then pitched it.

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Speaker 2: Her last pitch was to the UPNUPN and at that

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Speaker 2: Okay, you haven't seen Jenna Jackson any of those programs

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Speaker 2: This man was Tarvers boss, and allegedly he said to

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Speaker 3: Now with that being said, Tyra Banks is.

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Speaker 2: One of those ambitious people where she unfortunately, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: with hey, I want this to represent the model industry

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Speaker 3: But how about you flip it on his head and

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Speaker 2: It's obvious that this show meant the world to her.

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Speaker 2: It was her first child in terms of something she

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Speaker 3: The problem with Tarbard Banks is what I would have

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Speaker 3: I did it wrong. I should have done better.

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Speaker 2: different things that you got away with then that now

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00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: we look at like, you can't do that living with

442
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: the Rist solo cut.

443
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 3: Wether not alcohols in it, we don't know. It's it's

444
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 3: the visualization for me. But you have to be like

445
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: that was wrong. She never said anything was wrong.

446
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: She lost me when she acted like she could not

447
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: remember what happened to Shandy.

448
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 3: Shandy.

449
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 10: Oh, I.

450
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: Think, but that's production? Which one is it?

451
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 11: Because twenty minutes ago you said you created it, you

452
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 11: produced it, You do all these things. But when it

453
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 11: came to something that wasn't that wasn't received well or possible,

454
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 11: you know what people consider to the essay, you don't

455
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 11: remember that. So to me, a lot of what I saw, unfortunately,

456
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 11: and I'm somebody who I watched every single episode Top Model,

457
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 11: that was my shit back in the day.

458
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: I loved that show.

459
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: I was very disappointed in Tyra because it's all about

460
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 2: your character, the character of the person.

461
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: It's your character.

462
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it is twenty twenty

463
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: six and you have not yet contacted somebody who y'all

464
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: used to have sleepovers.

465
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: He did your makeup.

466
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying to be best friends with him, but

467
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: the fact that you don't want to talk about him publicly.

468
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: You said I should call him, you don't. I don't

469
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: know what miss Jay, Miss Jay did to you?

470
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: I did what? Oh well, what did he do to her?

471
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 10: Well?

472
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 8: One of the things that he did is during an

473
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 8: interview he said that Tyra's bullshitting about the production thing,

474
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 8: and actually he was with her when they got the

475
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 8: call that Shanny was being essayed, and she chose not

476
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 8: to do anything about it.

477
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 9: She knew exactly when it was happening.

478
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 8: So he's been spilling tea that she knew someone was

479
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 8: being violated and intentionally decided not to do anything about it,

480
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 8: and that a lot of the things she's blaming on

481
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 8: production were things that she actually about in real time

482
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 8: and stood by because they knew that was going to

483
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 8: be good programming, including when the young lady's mother was

484
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 8: shot in the head and they intentionally made her do

485
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 8: a photoshoot of her getting shot in the head, just

486
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 8: like her mother. That she was in the room, intentionally

487
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 8: doing things that she's now blaming on production. And she

488
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 8: probably feels the way that he's blowing the first spot

489
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 8: left and right about all these things that she's blaming

490
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 8: on let's moon vesting production.

491
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: That was really just her. Yes, and that's the thing.

492
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: Then let's move this through something. Allegedly. Absolutely, they can

493
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: mock the EP this shit too. Allegedly.

494
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you're not alone in this, however you're claiming under

495
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 12: But but the thing was this, it's the character in

496
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 12: who you are today.

497
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: Your ego Tara Banks allowed you to walk into a

498
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: situation where you look crazy, you held not yourself accountable.

499
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: It also showed the character of the person you are.

500
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: And I know people who worked on the Tar Banks Show.

501
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: It's not my story to tell. I'm not gonna go

502
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: there with that, But what I will say is I

503
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: looked at that. I looked at the smug look she gave,

504
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: and and and I wanted to find room boom to

505
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: give her some grades in terms of yes, you were

506
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: a black woman that sold the show and the weight

507
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: was on you and girlfriend, I know what that feels like.

508
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: The fuck at what point this show was started in

509
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: two thousand and three? You mean to tell me in

510
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: twenty three years. You can't look at yourself and say

511
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: I didn't get that right. You can't look at yourself

512
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: and say, miss Jay, although you did whatever, you had

513
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: a stroke, let me at least come busy. You hold

514
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: your hand and say all that bullshit back, then fuck it?

515
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: How are you contact these people? There would be no

516
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: top model at Tarboro I love there woman, no top

517
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: model without mister J miss j Nija Barker. Just like

518
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: the month in I Live is popping. I would never say, well,

519
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: you know how this is?

520
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: It's all me. No, it's this amazing three people who

521
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: I consider.

522
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: My friends that I get to have fun with and

523
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: if they ever felt like Carlos, X Y and Z,

524
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: I would be there for them. But I will Me

525
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: and Claudia had a falling gout once. I never once

526
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: was ever not going to be there for my girl.

527
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: Shit does happen. But it's the character and the sad

528
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: part about this, the whole documentary is this woman let

529
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: her ego get to her to end this same cycle

530
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: twenty five Tyre bay, I nor anybody wants to see

531
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: that ship.

532
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: Wrap it up. Sis, stop living in the past. You

533
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: had a that that shows iconic in its own right,

534
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: and you have to let it go and you have

535
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: to move on that. It was, it was, it was.

536
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: It was stupid to say yes to doing this. I'm

537
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: with Claudia. I don't know who's on your team, but

538
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: I know allegedly no one tells you what to do.

539
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Sis, it's it was. This was the dumbest

540
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: thing you could have done.

541
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: You would have been better fit just saying release a

542
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: statement and last but not leads, last but not leads.

543
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: I'm going to get on the producers I work, get

544
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: on the producers of the of the documentary. Yep, now

545
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: I got my tire, think out the way.

546
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: But again, everybody plays a role, the producers of that documentary,

547
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: the directors. Whatever y'all tried it, y'all wanted this to

548
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: be a smear campaign. The fact that y'all did not

549
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: reach out to Eva, Marcel, to Carra Jones. Y'all got

550
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: da costa three women, one of them who won and

551
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: did not want to get their POV because publicly, those

552
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: publicly even into Carra especially, these are my friends. They

553
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: had a great experience. So as a journalist, hey, hey,

554
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan's As a journalist, you want to get all sides.

555
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: So what I will give Tara is this, you walked

556
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: into something that was a smear campaign because they did

557
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: not even call the people who had nice things to

558
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: say about you. And that's why Wednesday on my YouTube

559
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: channel catched me into Kara talking about Tom Modo on

560
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: my YouTube channel and.

561
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 3: God, oh yes, that's called journalism.

562
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 6: Yes it is. So it's very obvious.

563
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: Like I said, I don't think she has anyone in

564
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: her life that tells her no, because it seems like she's,

565
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: like she says, not really in the reality space, like

566
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 5: in the real world with the rest of us. But

567
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 5: again I do have to keep pointing this out. Tyra

568
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 5: Banks has never owned upn And let me tell you something,

569
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: if those producers did not want that essay scene or

570
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: that scene to be on there, or those mean comments said,

571
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 5: it wouldn't have been said.

572
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 6: She can be executive producer. I believe it's more of

573
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 6: a vanity credit. I really do.

574
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 5: I think she was given the title, but I think

575
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, those producers wanted to

576
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: be as wicked and as low as possible.

577
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 6: She went along with it, she didn't stop it. On

578
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: one hand, I get it's like, well, it's my baby's

579
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 6: my show.

580
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: I want to show, but I don't want to be

581
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: like she Now is a perfect time to distance herself

582
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 5: from the parts that she did not like. Now was

583
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: the perfect time to say I feel awful. I mean,

584
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: I really want to happen, and I really feel bad.

585
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: I shouldn't let this. She doesn't awful, but I'm saying

586
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: this would be the perfect time to do it if

587
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: she felt that way. And and and that's why you

588
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 5: know she'sn't She doesn't get dragged in this documentary, and

589
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: she's didn't get dragged in the next one. And I

590
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 5: don't know what are comeback is going to be, what

591
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: it's gonna take for her to be like maybe seeing

592
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: this on TV, she can be like, Okay, I'm looking

593
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 5: crazy because I don't see how you can look at

594
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: that candy situation. I'm very bothered by that, and and

595
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 5: some of the other stuff that they put the girls through.

596
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: Like I get those producers well wicke it back then,

597
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: they were like, hey man, we gotta you want this

598
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: show or not.

599
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 6: I get that they that was probably happening. I get

600
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 6: that there's like, ah, the decision like do I go there?

601
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: Do I not?

602
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 6: Do I portray these young girls I have I had

603
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 6: their trust?

604
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: You did you didn't?

605
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: So just say, you know what, there was a great

606
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 5: pressure on me from the network. She could easily say

607
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: that we would believe that, but she didn't. We believe

608
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 5: that because she does not own If you think of

609
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 5: a black woman is running a network, but these white

610
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: people they're not.

611
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 6: They're not. She could easily get our sympathy and say,

612
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: you know what, they made me do this. I didn't

613
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 6: want to. I felt awful instead of being.

614
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Like who Shandy?

615
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 6: Who's Shandy?

616
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 8: Right?

617
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 6: I think I remember her vaguely great on the show.

618
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Speaker 8: In my opinion, Gabriel Union, by the way, is a

619
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 8: perfect example for anybody who wants to know that we're

620
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 8: not being unrealistic. Gabriel Union came forward several years ago

621
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 8: and said I was a mean girl in Hollywood. People

622
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 8: like Ryan Destiny who looked like the baby version of me.

623
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 8: I was hating on them and I had to sit

624
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 8: with myself like, oh, is you okay? And I've never

625
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 8: loved her more So this is not about being punitive.

626
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 8: This is about somebody who's being willfully ignorant. If she

627
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 8: really sincerely said that was some bullshit. And you know what,

628
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 8: I was trying to fight against the oppressor and I

629
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 8: accidentally came one, we would all be clamoring to clapp

630
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 8: for her.

631
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: I was hoping that Flue, I really, I really watched it,

632
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: hoping that she could acknowledge that, Hey, y'all, I fucked up.

633
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: I got Matrix. But but again I saw her character

634
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: and I was like.

635
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: Damn, son, I just it was just it was it

636
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: was it was I just saw ego. I just saw

637
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: somebody who who just had a bunch of ego. But look,

638
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: I think we said all that we need to say.

639
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: So I want to move on to the real.

640
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 6: Housewilk that Gabrielle union piece.

641
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: I was at that luncheon when she gave that speech,

642
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: and every black woman in Hollywood was in, and they always.

643
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: Like, why tell me, why why do you think they

644
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: did that? We all have an.

645
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 6: Experience with her in Hollywood. It was so many of us.

646
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: I had a mean girl experience of course, of course,

647
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 5: of course many years ago, but it was a lot

648
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: of it, and I'm glad she said it out loud.

649
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: But the best growth is changed behavior, and I wish

650
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 5: that for her. I wish that for Tyra, I wish

651
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 5: that for anyone that you can say it.

652
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 6: It sounds good, but are you? Are you moving on?

653
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: And I want you to because we have too much

654
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: we're fighting against with them other people for us to

655
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: be going at it.

656
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 6: We have too much out there with them other people. Okay,

657
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell my book one day, but there's.

658
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: A lot of that.

659
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 6: I was at that luncheon. I was at that luncheon.

660
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: I was with like the Who's who, every every black actress,

661
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Speaker 5: movie star, host, producer was in that audience. And when

662
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Speaker 5: she said that, everybody was like everyone had like an

663
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: experience and it was crazy. So Tyra, just like you,

664
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Speaker 5: like a lot of people have an experience with you

665
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: because you were so important to the culture, you know,

666
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: I mean, like you had you touched a lot of people.

667
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Speaker 5: So with that comes a lot of responsibility, you know,

668
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of responsibility and things.

669
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Speaker 6: That just maybe end up being your everyday where you

670
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 6: move really could hurt people.

671
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Speaker 5: So I'm playing with like, move on, I really am

672
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 5: and and learned from it for real, not just give

673
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 5: lip service to it.

674
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Speaker 7: So when you all was at the Black women lunching

675
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 7: and Gabrielle you walked in, y'all really did her?

676
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: How Vividcate did her at the beginning? They too can

677
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 4: play that game. Gabrielle bone that you are really really.

678
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 5: I went to the war the bathroom. I was like,

679
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: sad it out loud, I'm glad you said it. And

680
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: then she goes, yeah, you know we have this me

681
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 5: and you with this weird thing. I don't know what,

682
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 5: but when did we'll talk? I'm like, I'd be open

683
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: to that. We never did, but that was a baby

684
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Speaker 5: step in the right direction.

685
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Speaker 8: Did I summons the devil? And you know that was

686
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 8: supposed to be an example, y'all, I don't trigger.

687
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: VP and marketing.

688
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: Call her Claudia.

689
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 8: The spirit of Billy Porters. Who Claudia is when she's tipsy?

690
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 8: That's yes, Yes, Claudia is Billy Porter.

691
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: Who are you? I don't drink, but I have a

692
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: I have an alter ego. His name is Cortes.

693
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: You gotta give him you give him.

694
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 6: He would be Hispanic, isn't Dominican?

695
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: Or you gotta put a ricon alter ego.

696
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: Anyways, anyways, let's get to the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion.

697
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: So rain Drops, Claudia Blue, and Dustin. I wanted to

698
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: recap the show.

699
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Speaker 2: But first thing first, rain Drops, we do have a

700
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Speaker 2: special guest here from Potomac.

701
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: This woman and appeared on the Part two reunion last night.

702
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Drop the bomb, not fad funny, Carlos, drop the bomb,

703
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: and we are here.

704
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: To figure out what was going on.

705
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: Claudia Blue, Dustin, rain Drops, Ladies, gentlemen, gays and days,

706
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: please give it up for the beautiful friend of to

707
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: the show.

708
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: Miss Jazzy Harris, Hello.

709
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 10: Hello, Hello, the beautiful people.

710
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 3: Nice to see you guys.

711
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 10: Hey Claudia Girl, Nice to see you again, just per.

712
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 5: Usual, Wallas, Hey you, Carlos Blue, Hi everyone, thanks for

713
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: having me on today.

714
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 13: I enjoyed the commentary about America's Nextbmodel documentary and all

715
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 13: of the things y'all are making me miss my journalism

716
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 13: days honey b Yes.

717
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: Well listen, we're you okay, So we have to get

718
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: into your segment because, like Keanna said, I know you

719
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: got fifteen minutes left.

720
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: I want to make sure we use it all too.

721
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Speaker 10: How about that.

722
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Speaker 3: Be a Jazzy I like brother and sistern so she

723
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: gets my humor. So Ray Dawn's called out. That was right. No,

724
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: I love her. She was on my podcast last year.

725
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: We had a good old time. It broke the internet.

726
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's get right into it. And I want

727
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: obviously Claudia Dustin and blew the chimement as well. You

728
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: made an accusation on the Part two reunion that Keanna

729
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: allegedly stole her boyfriend Greg from his wife, And just

730
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Speaker 2: so that I'm able to be the journalist that I am,

731
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Speaker 2: I want to read Jazzy's response to.

732
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Speaker 3: That accusation.

733
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Speaker 2: That you I'm sorry Keana's respond to the accusation. But

734
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Speaker 2: before I do that, why do you think KK stole

735
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: Greg from his wife?

736
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Speaker 13: Well, I assumed that based on what was told to

737
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Speaker 13: me in regards to me joining the show last year,

738
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Speaker 13: and I've said that based on the facts.

739
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 10: That she told me.

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Speaker 13: So the timeline that she gave me was not the

741
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Speaker 13: timeline that was discussed on Instagram recently. So I mean

742
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Speaker 13: I was just going based off of the information I.

743
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Speaker 6: Was given, so she told you. She told you to

744
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 6: she told you that.

745
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Speaker 13: She told me when I joined the show that her

746
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 13: and Greg have been together three years, and when I

747
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 13: asked how long had he been divorced, she said about

748
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Speaker 13: three years.

749
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Speaker 10: So it sounded like an overlap to me.

750
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Speaker 13: I even saide I did in the moments, but I

751
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 13: was just like, okay, because she was actually asking you, which, Asi,

752
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 13: why did you say you know that Darius is a baby,

753
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 13: Mama had been in the picture for you know, whatever,

754
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 13: ample time before you whatever. Why didn't you just ignore

755
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 13: that question like I do? And that's what started the conversation.

756
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 13: So you know, that's kind of where it all stemmed from.

757
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 13: And I never really brought it up until she consistently

758
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 13: had been gunning for me and wanted to talk so

759
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 13: much about my life.

760
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Speaker 10: I'm like, well, you know, you have an.

761
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 13: Interesting life as well, and let's talk about yours and

762
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 13: maybe you can clear up what you told me, which

763
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 13: she decided to do now. And as far as I'm concerned,

764
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Speaker 13: that was the first time that I had heard her

765
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Speaker 13: publicly be clear about any timelines in which her and

766
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Speaker 13: Greg may have gotten together.

767
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Speaker 10: So, just going off of what was told to me.

768
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Speaker 2: Okay, when you set up with and told to you,

769
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Speaker 2: just when I'm clear, you're saying the information that KK

770
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: gave you, which was me and Greg were together for

771
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: about three years. She then followed up with he was

772
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Speaker 2: divorced from his wife three years as well. Yes, it

773
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: was your own timeline based on what she said to

774
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Speaker 2: you that made you come to that conclusion, or did

775
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: you hear in the streets that she stole somebody's husband?

776
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 10: Now this is this was not something that I heard

777
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 10: in the streets until after I heard in the streets

778
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Speaker 10: that that could be true. But when I brought this up,

779
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 10: this was based on what she told me.

780
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Speaker 13: And you know when you have a moment with your

781
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 13: friend and they mentioned something and you're like, y'all looking

782
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 13: at each other, like and then you kind of just

783
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 13: skim past that information because it was a little uncomfortable.

784
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 10: That's how the situation had played out.

785
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 13: And so when she kept wanting to talk about fifteen

786
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 13: minutes this and fifteen minutes, then I'm like, well, you

787
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 13: know what, in fact, let's talk about a lot of

788
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 13: things that you never talk about. And when you brought

789
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 13: it to me and presented it to me, you presented

790
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 13: it in a way that you purposely don't talk about

791
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 13: this for a reason. So I felt that, you know,

792
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Speaker 13: somebody keeps gunning for me. I'm gonna pull your tea too, Jessie.

793
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Speaker 4: Why they keep saying you recording everybody phone call?

794
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Speaker 13: Because what happens on these shows is when you have

795
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 13: a strong player in the group and people are wanting

796
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 13: to protect their status, they need the whole group to

797
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 13: go against you in order to ice you out. And

798
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 13: that's just the truth, Okay. I don't think that anybody

799
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 13: on that couch even thinks that I ever recorded anyone,

800
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 13: and I think that they know that. In fact, at

801
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 13: the reunion, it was shared from Angel that she knew

802
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 13: that she was on speaker.

803
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Speaker 10: I never recorded.

804
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 13: Angel also never recorded Stacy, and I find it very strange.

805
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 13: Although I know she's a bit performative, I do find

806
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 13: it strange for her to want to bring up a

807
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 13: situation that was an honest mistake, an honest mistake that

808
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 13: I actually called out at the time because I thought

809
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 13: it was her phone and she had never brought that

810
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 13: up before I had come back on the cast, because

811
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Speaker 13: we had talked several times, and before I even came back.

812
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 10: On the cast. This girl was fine with me.

813
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 13: She had never even brought that up, because, mind you,

814
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 13: this happened way before I was even back on the show.

815
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Speaker 4: So what happened, y'all.

816
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 9: Was on the phone, and like when I first got.

817
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 13: My iPhone, Stacy and I were on the phone, having

818
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 13: a very casual conversation, really not even talking about the

819
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 13: show at all. All of a sudden, my phone goes

820
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 13: this phone call is being recorded. I'm thinking that it's

821
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Speaker 13: Stacy's phone.

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Speaker 10: So I'm like, Stacy, uh, girl, what is that? And

823
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 10: she was like, I don't know.

824
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Speaker 13: I was gonna ask you that, and I said, hold up,

825
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 13: hold up, hoa up, hoad up, girl, I just got.

826
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Speaker 10: This phone last week.

827
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Speaker 13: Let me figure out what was going on and see

828
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Speaker 13: if it's my phone. I looked at her, I said,

829
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Speaker 13: oh my god, Stacey, that.

830
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 10: Was my phone. So I turned it off.

831
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Speaker 13: Mind you, I had never in my life, or I

832
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 13: had in a god, I had never in my life

833
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 13: seen or heard anything like that on any of my iPhones.

834
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 13: So I was extremely confused at that moment. Stacy and

835
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Speaker 13: I got off the phone. We never really brought the

836
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 13: situation back up until she said at the reunion, oh, Jesse,

837
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 13: you record people, and I'm like, Stacy, your bullshit is

838
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 13: really a form of art. So for you to sit

839
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 13: here at the beginning and be like, oh, Jesse needed

840
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 13: a moment. In the last moments of the finale, you

841
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 13: were the one who brought up the whole thing about Charisse.

842
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 10: Stacey, if I.

843
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 13: Needed a moment, girl, I could have been had a

844
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 13: moment with you, because everything that I ask you in

845
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 13: regards to my wedding, et cetera, had always been off camera.

846
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 13: Why Because I'm a real person and a real friend,

847
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 13: and when I come on this platform, I'm like many

848
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 13: of the others. I come on as authentic hints. Why

849
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 13: I'm supposed to be a friend of the show. But

850
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 13: if somebody's not being a friend to me, that doesn't

851
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 13: mean I still have to be their friend or be

852
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 13: fake with them.

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00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 10: And I think that that was the issue that Stacey

854
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 10: also had, because.

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00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 13: She wanted me to basically bow down, be a step

856
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 13: stool to her and let her play in my face

857
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 13: this whole time and not say anything, which another conversation

858
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 13: we had off camera when that happened was like, Stacy,

859
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 13: you don't get to try to sun me about Charisse.

860
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 10: When your loyalty has been questioned the entire season.

861
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 5: I will say that you're right about the phones they do.

862
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 5: Can they can record you with like it's super easy?

863
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, shoot, but what did you think when

864
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: Angel kind of co signed that? Because when all you recorded,

865
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 5: I heard Angel saying I was surprised she said this.

866
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, that hasn't happened.

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00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 10: Let me say something.

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00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: Fast, yes or no. Have you ever recorded a conversation

869
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 3: between you?

870
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 13: Absolutely not, absolutely not willing to go on a light

871
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 13: detective test to prove that on any day. Set it

872
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 13: up and I'll come on your podcast and your platform

873
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 13: and do just that happily because and will because.

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00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 10: First of all, it is twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 13: If I was really that shady and messy to want

876
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 13: to record a conversation, I wouldn't have to record.

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00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 10: It on my phone.

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00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 13: It's not that hard to record someone if that's the

879
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 13: weird stuff that you want to do. But quite frankly, Stacey,

880
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 13: you ain't never said nothing that I would want to record,

881
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 13: and none of the girls have ever said anything that

882
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 13: I would want to record.

883
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 10: I think that that's weird behavior.

884
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 13: It's childish, is immature and quite frankly, it's against the

885
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 13: law in Maryland. So I mean, I think that she

886
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 13: just really drugged that out and was performative and even

887
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 13: bringing that up Jesse.

888
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: I have though, I'm oh, no, no, no, I'm so

889
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. But to ask Claudia's question though, why did

890
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: Angel co sign it? And she's supposed to be your friend.

891
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: Wendy did too.

892
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 13: Let me let me say this without and Wendy let

893
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 13: me say this without.

894
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 6: I was like, damn they going to.

895
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 10: Between the lines. That was not the response at the reunion.

896
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 13: Let me just say that at the reunion, everybody was

897
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 13: all mute, okay, because I'm say I know that everything

898
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 13: does not make the cut, okay, and sometimes responses that

899
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 13: may have been a different response to something else. I

900
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 13: don't know, Doub's not what I saw at the reunion.

901
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 13: What I saw at the reunion was Stacey and Wendy

902
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 13: trying to say that, oh, you recorded or not recorded,

903
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 13: but you put Angel on speakerphone. And I said, first

904
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 13: of all, I text Angel in the moment and told her, Angel,

905
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 13: you are on speakerphone.

906
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 10: These girls are here, okay, And Angel.

907
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 13: Said, yes, that's true. Jazzy did say that that was

908
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 13: what I witnessed with my own eyes. So I was

909
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 13: very shocked and confused when I found out that that

910
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 13: edit came through as if the entire couch and even

911
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 13: Kay and Tiya said oh yeah, as if I was

912
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 13: recording them, which is so weird to me. But again,

913
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 13: in order to ice somebody out, the girls have to

914
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 13: gang up and get the stronger player, you know, out

915
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 13: so that they can, you.

916
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 10: Know, do what they have to do for their coins.

917
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 8: I have a question about it that's been bothering me,

918
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 8: and you're the perfect person to answer it. There was

919
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 8: a rare, compassionate moment where you pulled her aside to

920
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 8: talk about something unsavory, some allegations about some coins, and

921
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 8: somehow it was brought on camera, even though you were

922
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 8: kind enough to do it off camera. Did you feel

923
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 8: ambushed by that, because it's very rare that somebody gives

924
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 8: up such a great moment to be humanistic like that

925
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 8: and then to have weaponized against you.

926
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Where are you guys now and how did you feel

927
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: about that ambush? Because I was.

928
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 9: Stunned because you were doing her a solid.

929
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 13: Great, Well, it's funny because I also tried to do

930
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 13: her a solid by letting her know that when we

931
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 13: were back on the golf carts to kind of pipe

932
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 13: it down. And when I said that to her, she

933
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 13: kind of continued on. It was very like, it was

934
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 13: very evident that we were talking about something juicy. Once

935
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 13: we got back on the golf carts. When I told

936
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 13: her what was alleged to me in regards to her,

937
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 13: we were in a space where our mics were off.

938
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 13: I knew for a fact that no one could hear

939
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 13: our conversation, so I tried to give her heads up like, hey,

940
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 13: once we get off these golf carts, like cut the combo,

941
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 13: and that's not what she done, which is why it

942
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 13: then became another thing once we got inside and people

943
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 13: wanted to know what was y'all talking about, because at

944
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 13: that point the go pros were back up.

945
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 10: So that's why it kind of became public information.

946
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: What happened on the train, That's what I want to know.

947
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 10: Jeds, Well, let me say this, like.

948
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 13: What Amue can always take a first class flight, it's

949
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 13: a fifty minute over to New York, but at the

950
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 13: time we're filming in the winter, a lot of times

951
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 13: you want to catch the train to make sure that you're.

952
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 10: Not delayed, a lot of flights canceled at that time

953
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 10: and stuff like that. So I know a lot of

954
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 10: people like to do this about.

955
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: They they don't know the things.

956
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 13: What happened on the train is so Ashley and I

957
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 13: boarded the train at the same time because we're closer

958
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 13: to the DC area, and then as we stop in Baltimore,

959
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 13: we picked K up on the corner and she came

960
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 13: onto the train and said hi to Ashley, and she

961
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 13: kind of just really didn't speak to me, and I

962
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 13: was just like, Oh, Okay, I guess we're not speaking.

963
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 13: So I guess she trying to warm up for the reunion,

964
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 13: because even after the reunion, I talked to K, which

965
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 13: I'm so still like at this point.

966
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 10: I don't really care.

967
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 13: But it's so funny to me that people come on

968
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 13: these platforms and they want to pretend to be so authentic,

969
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 13: but then the things that they do.

970
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 10: Is the furthest thing from authentic.

971
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 13: Even when we got on the train, I expected the

972
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 13: girl to speak to me because we had had a

973
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 13: own conversation before the reunion.

974
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 10: When she didn't speak to me, I was like, Oh,

975
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 10: she in reunion, MO, she must tell me.

976
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: Oh, conversation wasn't recorded.

977
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 10: I don't record people.

978
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 6: They're not that k.

979
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, let me tell you something. Put me on that

980
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 10: line of detect the test, so I can't play this

981
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 10: up for real.

982
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: Okay, that phone conversation, what we y'all talking about before

983
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: the reunion, were y'all was the strategy? Was it?

984
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 13: No, not at all, just kind of recapping all of

985
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 13: the things that were in the headlines at the time

986
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 13: and just talking to each other about overseason. You know,

987
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 13: Rhop was just in the headlines and we just were

988
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 13: having a quick conversation.

989
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: Eddy situation.

990
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 10: It was a lot going on.

991
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 13: It was just Rhop in the headlines, how we felt

992
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 13: about the season. We had a quick, little cute conversation.

993
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 13: So I thought that we were cool. But I also

994
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 13: thought that we were cool when I first got back

995
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 13: on the platform, and that's when our first little back

996
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 13: and forth started as well.

997
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Urban legends. Urban legend has it in my Urban legend,

998
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: mother than Lie.

999
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: That the moment that you appeared on the show this season,

1000
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: that KK saw a ghost because allegedly she stole your

1001
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: flute and she felt you were there to steal hers.

1002
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1003
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 13: I don't know what was going on in her brain.

1004
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 13: From what I observed, I came in skipping, I came

1005
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 13: in happy. I came in not trying to take anybody's sloop,

1006
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 13: but just to be myself.

1007
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 10: And bring the energy that I bring to the cast.

1008
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 13: And at that moment, I do feel like there was

1009
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 13: immediate insecurity and immediate perception of what she thought I

1010
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 13: was coming for, which really kind of basically explain her

1011
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 13: behavior from that moment forward.

1012
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: Did K steal your flute?

1013
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 10: Nobody can steal what's for you, so nobody steals anything

1014
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 10: from me.

1015
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 13: You know, I didn't sign a housewife contract, so I

1016
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 13: wouldn't say she stole my flu.

1017
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: Do you think KK deserves to be your housewife?

1018
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 10: Listen?

1019
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 13: I think that these producers are educated, and I think

1020
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 13: that they know what works for the show. I think

1021
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 13: that them choosing her to be a housewife for now

1022
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 13: what her second season was a calculated decision to where

1023
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 13: they thought.

1024
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 10: That it might be good. So I think that they

1025
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 10: did what their professional training told them to do.

1026
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: Do you think it was the right decision?

1027
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 13: I think that for what they may have been looking for,

1028
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 13: which I don't know what that might have been, but

1029
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 13: I think that for what they would have been looking for.

1030
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, they made the right decision.

1031
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: My last Question'm gonna turn on to the panel. My

1032
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: thing is that let's have a conversation. First of all,

1033
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 3: I love KK.

1034
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: I love you what I saw at the regunion last night,

1035
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say this publicly read my lips refreshers

1036
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: so they can drag me or applaud me. I don't

1037
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna say something that is going to piss

1038
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: people off.

1039
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: And I don't give a damn.

1040
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay, what I watched last night, Part two reunion, the

1041
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: dynamic between you and KK reminded Carlos King of Season

1042
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: five Kenya and Portia. It was something so entertaining about it.

1043
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: It was it was light hearted, shade, it wasn't dark.

1044
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: You know.

1045
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: It gave me by Ashy, you know all of that

1046
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 3: Miss America. To me, it was funny.

1047
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: You two are young, gorgeous girls, and I just thought

1048
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: as I'm watching it, not only was I entertain, I

1049
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: saw the other girls on the stage. We entertained too,

1050
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: And I think there's a place for the two of

1051
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: you to coexist.

1052
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: I agree, and and I would like to see the

1053
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 3: two of you there. So that's that's that's my rang.

1054
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: Joss number comments refreshing Lizzylula, but I will but I

1055
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: want to ask you this, is it disheartening that you,

1056
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: who are the wife of a current NFL player, You're

1057
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: at the super Bowl, you fly private, you you have

1058
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: a great life. You even have a little bit of

1059
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: a you know, a messy situation that you and I

1060
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: talked about last.

1061
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 13: Year with the baby mom that I've always been very

1062
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 13: genuine and honest about.

1063
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 10: Talk about it anytime I'm meeting her right now, just

1064
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 10: so her two days ago.

1065
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, so thank you for that opportunity to of course,

1066
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 13: I love you, girls, But my question.

1067
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: Is this, and this is and you know, be real,

1068
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: not that you aren't, but be real. Is it disheartening

1069
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: that you come with all of his pedigree and you

1070
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: have the husband he is in the super Bowl? He

1071
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: you have a luxurious life.

1072
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 3: Is it disheartening that you haven't held the flu because

1073
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: you feel like you fitted the bill well?

1074
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 13: To be honest with you, I feel like not holding

1075
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 13: a flute just means that that's not what they're looking for.

1076
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 10: And that's okay.

1077
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 13: You know, sometimes people assume that because the show is

1078
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 13: titled the real housewives that they're looking for real housewives,

1079
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 13: and that's not always the case, you know, sometimes they're

1080
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 13: looking for single women who are navigating the relationships that

1081
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 13: they might find, you know, more entertaining.

1082
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 10: And to me, I genuinely am a woman of faith.

1083
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 13: I'm here now out of faith based conference because I

1084
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 13: believe in grounding myself and that's how I move, and

1085
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 13: I genuinely, in my heart of hearts, believe that what

1086
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 13: God really has for me is.

1087
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 10: Never gonna miss me.

1088
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 13: I'm never gonna be disheartened by a situation that I

1089
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 13: didn't get or a title that I didn't get, because I.

1090
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 10: Don't find validity in the show.

1091
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 13: I find validity in my everyday life and how I

1092
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 13: live my life on a regular basis, and how I

1093
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 13: try to be a good person and things like that,

1094
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 13: So you know, I don't I don't feel disheartened by it.

1095
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 13: I just feel like, oh, I applied for well, I

1096
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 13: applied after they you know, reached out to me about

1097
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 13: uh the drop description and what I assumed that they

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00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 13: would be looking for was just not necessarily what they

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 13: were looking for. I'm a pageant girl, so sometimes you

1100
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 13: I've been in several pageants where everybody knows I killed it,

1101
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 13: best body, best talent, best this, that's that. But that

1102
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 13: doesn't mean that you're gonna take home the crown because

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00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 13: sometimes they're just looking for something different that year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Claudia Blue Dustiny the final questions for jazz.

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00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 5: Do your friends be telling you that though, because like

1106
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 5: the homegirls will say, yeah, yeah, I don't know what

1107
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 5: the friend the.

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00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 13: Friends are saying. They really don't know you. Uh, they

1109
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 13: don't know who you are in real life. They could

1110
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 13: never uh. They are saying all of the things that

1111
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 13: the folks send. The people always say, you know, but

1112
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 13: for me, like, I've been thankful to live a riskful

1113
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 13: life in real life. So I just be living my

1114
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 13: real life and then I come on this show and

1115
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 13: I continue to live my life and continue to be

1116
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 13: myself and that's a blessing to so I don't have

1117
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 13: to cosplay this kind of life. I'm here now on

1118
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 13: the coast of California, like you know what I'm saying

1119
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 13: in real life, not just a three months out of

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Speaker 13: the year.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I.

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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 6: Was nice. That was nice.

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00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 5: I've been a Patriots fan, so I was like a teenager,

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00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 5: so I'm from Rhode Island, so welcome to them.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that you you decided to come on. Thank

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00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 3: you so much.

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00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: I do want to read Kea's statement because as a journalist,

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure to tell both sides.

1129
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: So this is what ke have to say.

1130
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: The allegations from tonight's episode cross the line and warrants

1131
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: a response for clarity. I met Greg doing c I

1132
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: double a weekend and twenty twenty two his divorce had

1133
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: already been finalized.

1134
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: That timeline is factual and verifiable. There was no overlap.

1135
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: We take the protection of our families seriously. False claims

1136
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: that impact our family, especially where children are concerned, are

1137
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: unacceptable and have consequences reality television and vice commentary. It

1138
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: does not justify misinformation or fabricated narratives. Repeating a claim

1139
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: does not make it true. Facts do not change the

1140
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: fit storylines. I will not engage in performative conflict. I

1141
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: will address misinformation directly.

1142
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: I am not a bench you can ride. The record

1143
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: is clear.

1144
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 10: Keana slash chat GPT. But Okay, that was beautiful.

1145
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 13: It really was, and I wish that she had that

1146
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 13: same energy when it came to me and my family

1147
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 13: and the things that she was saying and how they

1148
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 13: misconstrued my whole story when I totally clear as day

1149
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 13: on your podcast. I wish that those same guile would

1150
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 13: have been followed. But congratulations on the statement.

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 7: I got one last question for you, missus, Harris, What

1152
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 7: the fuck did Keana say about Wendy in the conversation

1153
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 7: that you haven't shared with the viewers yet.

1154
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: We got a lot of questions surrounding that.

1155
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 7: And if you don't feel like sharing it today, do

1156
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 7: you plan on telling us at some point in the future,

1157
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 7: you know, if they want to.

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 13: Give us a whole scene at another time. You know,

1159
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 13: if she gets her fifteen minutes extended and I do

1160
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 13: as well, then I'd.

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00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 10: Be happy to share all of the details.

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 13: But when you have a full on conversation that's over

1163
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 13: an hour long with someone, the gist of it was

1164
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 13: she can't be trusted and along with a lot of

1165
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 13: other things while they were friends.

1166
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 10: So me sitting down in.

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00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 13: Ten minute fifteen minute interview to tell you all of

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 13: the details just would not.

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00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 4: Be sufficient ad vice.

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 13: So it's like, basically, while she was Wendy's friends, she

1171
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 13: was shit talking her and saying you'll see for yourself.

1172
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 13: Don't trust her she does TV et cetera, et cetera,

1173
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 13: et cetera.

1174
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 6: Who's real friends on the show? Who's like the real friends?

1175
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 10: YOA, Nobody wouldn't know because because.

1176
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, they be hard on it.

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00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 13: It's you know, I think that I and I am

1178
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 13: gonna be honest when I say this, because I feel

1179
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 13: comfortable with you guys, and I feel like you're a

1180
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 13: genuine group of people.

1181
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 10: Some of these women, this is their careers.

1182
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 13: So when it comes to wanting to protect, maybe how

1183
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 13: they feed their families, I don't know, just assumption, but

1184
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 13: when it comes to wanting protect, wanting to protect that

1185
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 13: they are willing to go to great lens. They are

1186
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 13: willing to lie, skime and cheat and do whatever else

1187
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 13: it takes for them to stay on this platform. So

1188
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 13: I think that people come in with good intentions and

1189
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 13: then they realize, oh crap, I left my whole security

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00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 13: realm of a corporate job, and now this is it.

1191
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 10: What do I have to do to stay here?

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 13: And unfortunately that then tends to make friendships kind of

1193
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 13: difficult to navigate.

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00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 9: Jesse, who do you trust the least? I'm curious because

1195
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 9: you you seem so genuine.

1196
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 8: I can see why someone fraudulent would feel threatened being

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00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 8: around you very much.

1198
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: So I've been watching you. I'm like, oh, I can

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Speaker 3: fully get while they're scared. Who do you trust the

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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: least right now? Currently?

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00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 13: You know I the least, I would have to say,

1202
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 13: anybody that sits on that platform and can look in

1203
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 13: your face and straight lie like several of them have done,

1204
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 13: in which, honestly, Stacey and k have looked.

1205
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 10: In my eyes and told bold face lies that they

1206
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 10: know we're not true. And those kind of people scare me.

1207
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 10: Those kind of people scare me.

1208
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1209
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I see it's getting dark and yell and Jazzy,

1210
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: I love you, honey, thank you so much for hopping in.

1211
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, having.

1212
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 6: So much.

1213
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: Jazzy and KK back. I want round two.

1214
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 10: Yes, let's send those fifteen minutes.

1215
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 13: Okay, though they can give me two.

1216
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 10: Okay, give my love to your to your hobby, Okay,

1217
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 10: I will, thanks guys.

1218
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 6: Thanks, Yeah, I get the next fifteen going.

1219
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: Wow, talk about round two of that, so listen, we

1220
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 3: had to start off that way.

1221
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: I want to get into the reunion. It picked up

1222
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: with Ashley versus Wendy. You know, Ashley made her comment

1223
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: about I got one social Security number and then Wendy

1224
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: gave me nothing, and they talked about, well, what you said,

1225
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: I do too, and she said, well it says six

1226
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: to seven six seven, you.

1227
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: Know, which they.

1228
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: Made sure to show a headline that Wendy allegedly has

1229
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: sixty seven credit cards.

1230
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: Blue.

1231
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: What did you think about that whole dynamic between Ashley

1232
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: and Wendy as they were talking about her Wendy's current situation.

1233
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 8: I think Ashley has unintentionally admitted that the same shenanigans

1234
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 8: that got her airtime are not working anymore. I think

1235
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 8: she agrees with us because even when she was trying

1236
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 8: to bait Wendy, she had that zinger and I now

1237
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 8: see why she was the cliffhanger, because they're very much

1238
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 8: plummeted right afterwards.

1239
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 9: Like Wendy is really good at starving the girls.

1240
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: She'll starve you.

1241
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 8: She'll she'll see you have a moment and she won't

1242
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 8: help you feed it. And I do feel that, honestly

1243
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 8: looking at the text messages that Stacy revealed between her

1244
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 8: and Ashley, that Ashley is hurt because she thinks Wendy

1245
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 8: thinks she's better than her.

1246
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: I don't, actually I don't.

1247
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 8: I don't tend to give Ashley Darby too much grace

1248
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 8: because of the things that she does, that she's a

1249
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 8: professional bonk carrier. But I do think that Ashley has

1250
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 8: always felt judged by Wendy, and now that Wendy is

1251
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 8: having what she perceived to be an impending demise, she's

1252
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 8: reveling in it, and Wendy is starving her.

1253
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: Wendy is starving her. I would like to start her

1254
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: as well. That second was too long.

1255
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 9: We didn't need that much, goddamn Ashley.

1256
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: That's my it was. It was about five minutes and

1257
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: it was four and a half minutes too long for me.

1258
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: That is my favorite. I actually agree with you long.

1259
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: Nobody's that much, Ashley.

1260
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: I purposely watched Potomac KIM when I ate I was

1261
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: home son last night.

1262
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: I watched around eight fifteen, so I can like fast

1263
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: for a little bit. I did fast forward through Ashley's package.

1264
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: I read the captions.

1265
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dustin, because we knew she because she don't got none,

1266
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 7: like Wendy said, we knew she ain't gonna be talking

1267
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 7: about shit, right.

1268
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 4: I think that Ashley had prepared her. So she did

1269
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 4: say in the interview, and.

1270
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 7: She was asked about the Sharis shit, she was like, well,

1271
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 7: I'll be at the reunion and I'll be sitting on ready,

1272
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 7: you know.

1273
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 4: She said that, and so you could tell she had

1274
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: prepared some stuff.

1275
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna tell you you can always tell when

1276
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 7: Ashley goes off script, because like the six seven thing

1277
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 7: was obvious a callback to the recent trend of the

1278
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 7: six seven shit that's you know, been all over and

1279
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 7: a callback to also the sixty seven credit cards.

1280
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 4: But when she goes off script, it's gone.

1281
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 7: An example of that is when she started speaking about

1282
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 7: dating a congressman and Stacey was like, well, you are history,

1283
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 7: please you know what I'm saying. And she was like, what,

1284
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 7: I am a very upstanding member. And I say that

1285
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 7: with a Kapa told you, a Kappa told you. You

1286
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 7: can tell she was just reaching for anything to be

1287
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 7: said at the moment because Stacey had.

1288
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: Called her off guard.

1289
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 7: So I don't know, you know what I'm saying. I

1290
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 7: feel like, actually she does. She's been there since day one.

1291
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 7: She's a willing potster and that's a necessary component to

1292
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: the cast. So while she may not be my favorite

1293
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 7: person on the show, and I don't trust her at

1294
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 7: all as a viewer.

1295
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 4: I still think Ashley needs to be there.

1296
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: I do.

1297
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 4: I think that her brand of what she does is necessary.

1298
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 7: It's similar to Toya Bush Harris so married to medicine.

1299
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: You know that they're going to hit the gas, you know, yes.

1300
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: Hold dustin, I love it you and I disagree Toya Bush.

1301
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: Listen, twelve seasons in Toya busch hair still gives you

1302
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: something outside of being the first multiplier. I think Ashley

1303
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: started off strong, and I think Ashley the problem Ashley

1304
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: is this and rain Jows tell me y'all disagree YouTube

1305
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: Claudia and Blue.

1306
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: I just think.

1307
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: I think Ashley without Michael is not an interesting person.

1308
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: Agree, I just, I just I think.

1309
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: But Toya without Eugene is interesting, right because Toya Toya

1310
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: is somebody that Am and Dusk recapitals on my Patreon

1311
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: check it out. We had a good time doing it, Toya,

1312
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: even when Heavenly Herbert was heavily was attackonizing Toy. Yeah,

1313
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: Toya surprised me and dusted by not giving it anything.

1314
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: I feel like Ashley, like Candice said.

1315
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: Will go you know and drop the bone and go

1316
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: back home.

1317
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: So I think the thing with some of the girls Potomac,

1318
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: even Giselle saying, oh conference a politician, if I was

1319
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: talking about me. I think the problem with this and

1320
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: it's a problem with reality stars. You gotta be more

1321
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: than just a shade assassin. You need me. You know,

1322
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: Meeni Leaks is the greatest housewife ever because Meani Leaks

1323
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: was a shade assassin. She was funny, she was You

1324
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: saw her go through some of you saw her divorce

1325
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: with Greg Lee's rest in peace.

1326
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: You saw her crime when her shred got into it.

1327
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: But you also saw her read a girl.

1328
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: You also saw her get read you also, you saw

1329
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: all these complex things, say people to Mesa Judies.

1330
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 3: My point is, I think the reality girls and and

1331
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 3: and it is one of it is.

1332
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: I think a lot of you girls think and I'm

1333
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: telling you you're going to get fired thinking this way.

1334
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,959
Speaker 2: You're going to get fired reality stars who are currently

1335
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: on television if you continue to think this way.

1336
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 3: Be more than just shady, Be more than just stirring

1337
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: the pot.

1338
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: That is that is that is thirty five percent of

1339
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: your job as reality star.

1340
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: We want to see something real.

1341
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: And I think the problem that I will say I'm

1342
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: seeing more and I think this Part two reunion exposed it.

1343
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: Some of you girls think because I mess you, I'll

1344
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: read I actually still have my flu.

1345
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: And that's why for me, when you look at Wendy

1346
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: and Stafty and you look at you really do get

1347
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: a chance to see.

1348
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 7: You know, I think there's a lot more similarities between

1349
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 7: Ashley and Toya than we're making note of.

1350
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 4: Right, mh.

1351
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 7: They both don't do ship but the show. Let's stop there,

1352
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Both of them don't do

1353
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 7: nothing but the show. They both have written children's books, right,

1354
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 7: you see, actually had a children's book on the reinion.

1355
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 4: Toyo wrote a children's book. Right.

1356
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 7: Both of them been on their cast since day one, right,

1357
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 7: Both of them willing to do and say anything and

1358
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 7: arguments are in the heat of the moment to keep

1359
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 7: the engine going.

1360
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 4: Right, both of them talk to that.

1361
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 7: You see how Toya be cussing Eugene ass out left

1362
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 7: and right to the point where.

1363
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 4: He'll go in a reaction because he's that.

1364
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 7: Right, we see Ashley Ashley cuts that boy out that

1365
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 7: she was dating and embarrassed him at the where was

1366
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 7: they at? David Busters team, and she cussed him out there.

1367
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 7: They both are just willing to do that. They both

1368
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 7: had on short reunion dress. It's just a lot of

1369
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 7: similarities there. Both got two boys.

1370
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1371
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 7: There's a lot of similarities there that I think you

1372
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 7: don't realize, bro. Just something to think about, that's all right,

1373
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 7: Just something to think about, That's all I'm saying.

1374
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 4: Again, what you say again?

1375
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm crying, Claudia Jordan, what are your thoughts?

1376
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 5: I think that I hear a lot from y'all and

1377
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 5: other people like Ashley ain't given much this and the

1378
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 5: other not exciting without the husband.

1379
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: Was actually the youngest housewife ever.

1380
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't know about ever ever, I don't know, but

1381
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 3: she was definitely one of the youngest. Correct. She was

1382
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: definitely the youngest that started for me for sure.

1383
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 6: How long was she with that husband, Michael Darby.

1384
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now. Well, listen to Ashley's

1385
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: thirty seven. She was married to Michael Darby. Give me

1386
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: one second, Claudia, like to make sure. They divorced in

1387
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: favorite twenty five. They were married since twenty fourteen, so

1388
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: they were together for eleven years.

1389
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 5: Okay, I just want to give a little perspective on this. Again,

1390
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 5: I'm a outside home. I haven't watched it, like yo,

1391
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 5: all these years. I don't have nothing against none of

1392
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 5: these girls.

1393
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 6: I really don't.

1394
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 5: I just feel like it's a lot of on her

1395
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 5: to bring this, bring that, bring this. A large part

1396
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 5: of her life was being a married woman to this man,

1397
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 5: and there is some adjustment that does have to Like,

1398
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 5: you're not gonna just all of a sudden just like

1399
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 5: get divorced a couple of years later.

1400
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 6: Oh, you just have all this stuff.

1401
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 5: I just I'm just offering a little bit of a

1402
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 5: different take on it as far as, like, you know,

1403
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 5: getting it together.

1404
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 6: I was married for four months.

1405
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: I was messed up for like three years over because

1406
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe I did that right. And I just

1407
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 5: I think that, yes, she's not main character energy like

1408
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 5: some of the other girls. And yeah, of course, right,

1409
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 5: they're not all gonna be that. I think on a

1410
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 5: successful show, it would be exhausting to have five Mimi leagues,

1411
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 5: So five Giselle's or five you know, Wendy's.

1412
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 6: That's why the shows are good.

1413
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 5: Like you have your favorites, you have the people that

1414
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 5: are just kind of fillers a little bit, but they're necessary.

1415
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 5: They also move things along or they stir the pot

1416
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 5: when you be they go in this role players like

1417
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 5: on a basketball team, you know you have a point

1418
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 5: guard and they're not all point guards. You know you

1419
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 5: have people on it that are not the strongest player.

1420
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 5: It's necessary. I think she does provide something. She kind

1421
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 5: of stirs up. She's willing to do the things that

1422
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 5: were like, oh, she's annoying, but it keeps people talking

1423
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 5: about I think Potomac is it's very entertaining. I probably

1424
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 5: wouldn't want to be on that show because they work

1425
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 5: for their goddamn checks, including Ashley, Like, she may not

1426
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 5: have the man right now, and she is doing some

1427
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 5: weird shit. I can definitely agree with y'all on that,

1428
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 5: with the son and all.

1429
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 6: That kind of stuff.

1430
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: She's doing some weird stuff, but it's part of a

1431
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 5: team that ends up being a very successful show that works.

1432
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: Like with all those parts that.

1433
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 5: Are in it right now, I don't feel like even

1434
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 5: with the lack of the dating storyline or whatever, I

1435
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 5: still feel like she's she is part of the show

1436
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 5: that it makes it great. She's the best character on

1437
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 5: the But I'm like Okay, she does some shit that

1438
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 5: makes be like, what.

1439
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 7: Question, Claudia, Because you you started watching this season, right,

1440
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 7: this is like your first season watching the show.

1441
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 5: I saw some like a couple of years back when

1442
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 5: I was in the Slane, I did a whole like

1443
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 5: I think I was there for like five hours, you know,

1444
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 5: and it was a couple of times we did that.

1445
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 6: But yeah, as far as like weekly you know, loyally

1446
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 6: working watching every week, yes.

1447
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 4: Okay, so like knowing you right, and I think this

1448
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 4: is actually something that you and I have in common. Right.

1449
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 7: We like to get people a fair shot, and we

1450
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 7: like to root for the underdog when it's deserving, right,

1451
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 7: when they deserve the support we do that. Do you

1452
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 7: feel like, based on you you starting to watch the

1453
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 7: show that this season like full time or whatever, you

1454
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 7: feel like actually get a lot of like hate and

1455
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 7: like negative comments and stuff, and you feel like, do

1456
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 7: you look at her as like the underdog of this season?

1457
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 4: From your view?

1458
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 6: I think there's a few not not as much maybe not.

1459
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 7: Her, you know what I'm saying. When you watch this season,

1460
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 7: what do you do you feel like, damn she the underdog?

1461
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 7: Like she ain't as as people say she is? Is

1462
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 7: that how you feel when you watch this season or

1463
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 7: how do you feel?

1464
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 6: I can see her being annoying to people. I'm not blunt.

1465
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 5: I could see her being like people being like, all right,

1466
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: actually that's enough. But I also think, like there's every

1467
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 5: franchise has annoying people on them.

1468
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 6: If we're going to keep it a buck, there's.

1469
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: Not I think. I think the difference is this, She's

1470
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: been on the show for.

1471
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: Twelve consecutive season and my head listen, I was let

1472
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: me not announce it.

1473
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 3: I'll have to go first.

1474
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: I was talking to a former housewife who has a podcast,

1475
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: and she asked me, do I think that some housewives

1476
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: should be on the show for a certain amount of

1477
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: time and then have a break, And I said, I

1478
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: actually think yes, unless unless it's somebody that is interesting

1479
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: enough to really warrant still being there.

1480
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of girls from reality to.

1481
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 2: TV now that deserves a break because they you have

1482
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: to miss it and you have to come back with something.

1483
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: I think the problem is actually, I agree with all

1484
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 3: of you guys, right, She's a necessary evil. I'm gonna

1485
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 3: calling her EVO. She is necessary for sure.

1486
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: But I can find twenty five thousand ashletes of my dms,

1487
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: and they DM me Carl don't know how to read,

1488
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, so it's not easy to find an

1489
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: OG to be replaced with another woman that's thirty seven.

1490
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 3: That can read.

1491
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: I think Ashley, who brought so much greatness to the show,

1492
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: should understand what it feels like to be removed from

1493
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: it and listen, no shade to her shit the only

1494
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: one and I'll just leave it at that.

1495
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 3: The reason why I think a lot of us m sorry,

1496
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 3: I think the reason I mean, he's not wrong, though,

1497
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 3: but go ahead, go ahead, you know.

1498
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: I think the reason why a lot of us love

1499
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 2: Stacey is she's a breath of fresh air and we

1500
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: get to get something new. I like Keana. I think

1501
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: she's great. I don't see the half of her, but

1502
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: that's just me. I like Jazzy, I mean is great.

1503
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,879
Speaker 2: I think Angel had potential. I think I think Angel.

1504
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: I think Angel should have come with more due process.

1505
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 2: But my point is, I just think that for OG,

1506
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: you gotta be more than just reading me.

1507
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 6: I honestly don't think that she is a necessary evil.

1508
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 6: I think she's redundant.

1509
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: Afterthought, Okay, you can.

1510
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 9: See your point in a world full of Stacy's.

1511
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 8: Honestly, even angel if Angel and Jazzy and Kiana get

1512
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,440
Speaker 8: into some weird, interesting kerfuffles and Stacy's there to spread.

1513
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 9: Confusion and interesting performative.

1514
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 8: Lies, and Wendy is hopefully out of the clink Clink

1515
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 8: and Giselle's just being dead mother. I could see he

1516
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 8: is still enjoying the show without actually because I kept

1517
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 8: forgetting she was on the show until she had to

1518
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 8: go to Chuck E Cheese to do her manditary quota.

1519
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 8: And in the same way we acted like we needed

1520
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 8: Robin Dixon it was gonna be the end in the world.

1521
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 9: I haven't miss Robinson she left. I haven't miss Robinson

1522
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 9: she left.

1523
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 8: So I think if Ashley was to leave, because she's

1524
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 8: left several episodes, in my opinion, I don't think it'd

1525
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 8: be as big of an.

1526
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: Impact as we're stated.

1527
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 8: I think we're being kind, but I do think she

1528
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 8: needs a break. I think she's tired, but her ego

1529
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 8: won't let her say it, and that somebody has to

1530
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 8: let her out to pasture and let make her come back,

1531
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 8: like Monique did.

1532
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 9: I think two years off, I might actually miss Ashley.

1533
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 9: Let me miss you agree.

1534
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 4: I want to miss you.

1535
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 3: I want to miss you.

1536
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: Speaking of somebody that came back, Monique came back with

1537
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 2: her binder and she revealed some information about Stacy that

1538
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: clip hung the reunion.

1539
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: Dustin, I'll start with you on this one. Where are

1540
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 3: your thoughts on Moniques come back this season, bringing back the.

1541
01:15:53,280 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: Binder at the reunion, and then having information about Stacey that.

1542
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,440
Speaker 3: That she has to allegedly expose.

1543
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: Her with us.

1544
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 7: I'm glad that she gave us a chance to say

1545
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 7: our last words to the binder. I hope that it

1546
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 7: is put to rest after this. They should probably keep

1547
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 7: it in the Bravo clubhouse or maybe put it on

1548
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 7: display a Bravo constance. Monique is back into the zeitgeist now,

1549
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 7: but we don't need to see that no more. Okay,

1550
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 7: they didn't live where it's being I also think that

1551
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 7: it was strategic, you know what I'm saying on Monique's behalf.

1552
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 7: I think that Moniques returned to this series. She's had

1553
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 7: a very strategic, methodical approach to her housewife, Rie, you

1554
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, And I think that it's worked

1555
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 7: because people have you know, it appears that people in

1556
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 7: her group are expressing that they feel her change.

1557
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 4: It's been sincere you know what I'm saying. So that's good.

1558
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 7: It's a new Monique. I'm glad to have her back.

1559
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 7: That's how I feel. But I don't want to see

1560
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 7: that motherfucking binder no more. We don't need no more props.

1561
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 7: None of that Monique was at her as a housewife,

1562
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 7: when she was in the heat of the moment, reacting

1563
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 7: to certain stuff or flossing her wealth, you know what

1564
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So we just need her to show us

1565
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 7: a little bit of that. But whatever that new part

1566
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 7: of her personality looks like, then I'd be happy.

1567
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: Claudia.

1568
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 6: I don't think it was she was used right or

1569
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 6: it was. I feel she's so much more than what

1570
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 6: she was a season.

1571
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 8: I like her.

1572
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 5: I think she's dope. I think she's beautiful. I think

1573
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 5: she's cool to how she's saw a girl that I

1574
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 5: would want to hang out with.

1575
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 6: But I felt like wamp and I'm putting it on

1576
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 6: the producers, not even her. I just felt like she

1577
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 6: could know. I don't know.

1578
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 3: I just was like, but I wan't blame the produce.

1579
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'll work on the show. But I

1580
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 3: just want to know why you were blame the producers,

1581
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: that's all Claudia.

1582
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 6: Because we seen her be like big on these shows.

1583
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 6: We seen her be like, I don't.

1584
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 5: Know, I just feel like they It's like when you

1585
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 5: have a base football team and you get the best

1586
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 5: coin or you had a good ass quarterback from the team,

1587
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 5: then you don't know, like you don't play them right.

1588
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1589
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 6: I just felt like it didn't land.

1590
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 5: Like I want to see more from her because I

1591
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 5: like her, and I feel like we spent a lot

1592
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 5: of time on everybody else. But I'm just like, it

1593
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 5: was definitely bill to be big for her coming back right,

1594
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 5: and then I think it kind of.

1595
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 6: Fell a little flat.

1596
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 5: But I like personally for her, And please don't take

1597
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 5: this as into the audience watching as me having any

1598
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 5: kind of hate for because I don't. I'm saying I

1599
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 5: really like her, one of my favorite people out there,

1600
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 5: like I like her a lot. I just felt like

1601
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 5: it just didn't it didn't land, And I'm just like,

1602
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 5: I think we spent too many episodes in Colorado, too

1603
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 5: many episodes talking about Angel where I don't know, I

1604
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of darkness in her life. With

1605
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 5: her divorce that she's trying to avoid.

1606
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:49,560
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1607
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 6: I just was like it felt a little awkward.

1608
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 10: You know.

1609
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 6: And I hope for next season she's back that I

1610
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 6: want to see her dating.

1611
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 5: I want to see her start restarting her life, like

1612
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 5: getting back into the swing of things with her life,

1613
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 5: because I think she just has I think she has

1614
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 5: a lot to give and I want to see more

1615
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 5: from her.

1616
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 4: I really do.

1617
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 6: Get overkilled with the Binder, like they were like, you know,

1618
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 6: like that was dope what you did the first time.

1619
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 8: I ironically think that Monique probably bought the binder that

1620
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 8: she with you. She's like, let me remind them of

1621
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 8: what made me legendary, So I think it might have

1622
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 8: been her attempt at being nostalgic. I actually agree with

1623
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 8: Claudia and Dustin about how I want to see her back.

1624
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: I do not think she was utilized.

1625
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 8: I do think that the return on investment of the

1626
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 8: hoopla around her was low, Like, I don't think we

1627
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 8: got what we were expecting. I also am tired of

1628
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 8: the other girls trying to weaponize her ex husband against Stacy,

1629
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 8: But Moniqu's the one who's paying for it. You try

1630
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 8: to use this man to make Stacy look bad. Instead's

1631
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 8: now going to court because he keeps coming up, and

1632
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 8: so they just need to find a new storyline for

1633
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 8: her that doesn't include did Stacey seep with your ex husband?

1634
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 8: Did Stacey do what with your ex husband? Nobody cares

1635
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 8: about that man except for Cookie.

1636
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: Right Like, we need to let it go. She is,

1637
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 3: I'm so tired of hearing about this man.

1638
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: If there was a drinking game and we have the cookie,

1639
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: everybody would be drugs.

1640
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 5: I think they didn't handle that stuff with the Chris

1641
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 5: Daniel thing, like if you're gonna bring it up, bring

1642
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 5: it up and make it big, get into it, bring

1643
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 5: it up.

1644
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 6: It was kind of like, oh, drop a bomb.

1645
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 9: Oh she went out with Chris, and I was like, Okay,

1646
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 9: they kept trying to make Fetch happy.

1647
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 6: That's what it felt like.

1648
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 10: I would.

1649
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 4: Chris.

1650
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 7: Chris Samuel's mad at Monique right now because of Charissa

1651
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 7: ass When they was.

1652
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 4: In the scene and she called him, she she had

1653
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 4: that damn phone out.

1654
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 7: She okay, I'm calling them now. She called hey, Chris

1655
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 7: and sharifs. He basically said, what you know what I'm saying,

1656
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 7: and then she said she ran down that matsy ass

1657
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 7: a scenario and then he gonna say, what.

1658
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 4: The hell you? I ain't got nothing to do with

1659
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 4: that ship y'all got going on. She's like, okay, bye,

1660
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 4: hung up. And Monique been catching hell, Natalie Cole said

1661
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 4: ever since.

1662
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 7: So you know what I'm saying to me, Monique and

1663
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 7: Monique and Charis already had beef because of that season

1664
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 7: five ship.

1665
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 4: If Monique come back to the show, let her fight

1666
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 4: Charisse this time.

1667
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: Okay, listen for the comments. My dream pat is this

1668
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: and I'll save it, you know what, I'll save it

1669
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: for part three. But I'll just say Charis is a

1670
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 2: part of that. I want some real and Chariz and

1671
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 2: and all of that. Like I want to see that.

1672
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't I don't care.

1673
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 3: To see the the mudane. I don't care. But what

1674
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 3: I will say is.

1675
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: I thought Angel's reunion performance was fine.

1676
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 3: Blue bath of what.

1677
01:21:54,439 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: In my opinion, bath y'alls, I can't say nothing. Angel

1678
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: did a good job based on what was presented to her.

1679
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: We haven't seen part three yet, but Dustin, I really

1680
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: thought she did a good job making sure she inserted herself.

1681
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 3: And into what that.

1682
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 6: Was like?

1683
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 8: Did she inswered herself into Carlos, She got shushed four times,

1684
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 8: got called what they call her Edward James almost or something,

1685
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 8: and then.

1686
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 9: Like, what exactly are you appl Are we getting like

1687
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 9: participation awards?

1688
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 7: Wendy said, I might have, I might have a different

1689
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 7: name on them packages, but you gonna know exactly who

1690
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 7: the sender.

1691
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 4: Was with this, James Earl Jones. You know what I'm saying, that.

1692
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: We applauding Carlos. I need you to finish the set.

1693
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm confusion, what exactly hear me out? Hear me out

1694
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 3: what I mean?

1695
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 14: Claudia. I think I did really help you with this,

1696
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 14: because Claudia knows what is Claudia topt me her lion.

1697
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: That reunion, that reunions are intense, and sometimes it's hard

1698
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: for you to get a word in edgewise because.

1699
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 6: Especially as a new girl, you said what especially as

1700
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 6: a new girl.

1701
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: As a new girl, so my, so maybe I should

1702
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: have added context. My apologies, Blue and Dustin. I thought, okay,

1703
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 2: I thought, as a new girl who wasn't to me

1704
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: both over the whole season, I thought she did a

1705
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: good job of making.

1706
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 3: Sure she was hurt.

1707
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 4: Okay, saying what that's the thing.

1708
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 3: I was funner.

1709
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 8: She made a new word, guy's funner. She said, I

1710
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 8: wish I was funner this season. That's all she got

1711
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 8: from everything she watched was that she should have been funner.

1712
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 5: Did y'all clock when Monique was talking about when they

1713
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 5: were talking about Monique kind of interfering or stepping in

1714
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 5: and comparing her relationship with her with Chris, with Angels

1715
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 5: and her and Bobbies, and you know, the whole deal

1716
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 5: was being made about, you know, comparing your inserting your

1717
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 5: life you don't know me like that. But then it

1718
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 5: was revealed that Angel did say to Monique like she

1719
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 5: took it to the side. I was like, yeah, I

1720
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 5: want to talk to you about it, like that's again

1721
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 5: being fake, being fake, like you actually did find some

1722
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 5: common ground with her, but on camera, you just so

1723
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 5: appalled that she had the nerve to think that there

1724
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 5: were some commonality between y'all, But it seemed like she

1725
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 5: no cameras weren't rolling. She did feel like, you know what,

1726
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 5: you could be someone like to talk to, And I

1727
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 5: just felt like it was unnecessarily kind of like coming

1728
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 5: from Monique in that part because and that's.

1729
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 3: Why Claudia, thank you for bringing up that's why.

1730
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: I remember I said to y'all weeks ago, I said, look,

1731
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: in Monique's defense, what I saw.

1732
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 3: I didn't think Monique was projecting the rain jots read me.

1733
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: I thought Monique, being a former Wag, saw similarities. And

1734
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: I do believe if you ask a current or former WAG,

1735
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: you will see similarities in the way things work. I

1736
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: saw similarities myself just being a producer and working with

1737
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: Wags or former wags. So and it doesn't mean that

1738
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: Bobby's a bad person. I don't think he's a bad

1739
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: person at all. I just think at the end of

1740
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: the day, they have a dynamic that works for them,

1741
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 2: like all relationships should.

1742
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 3: But I'm glad you about Claudia.

1743
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 8: I love Angel, Claudia of Monique, Chris Samuels, Bobby and

1744
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 8: what's that girl?

1745
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 3: Angel?

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 8: The more thing I liked about Angel, I'll give her

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01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 8: credit when her Monique were having the back and forth,

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01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 8: and Monique was like, Bobby, I know Bobby gott be

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 8: for me because I said hello to him. He looked

1751
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 8: right at me and kept them walking. She's like, he

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01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 8: wasn't being rude. He was like, she was like, no,

1753
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 8: he was being rude. I saw a glimmer of Angel

1754
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 8: having a purpose on the show, right, I saw a

1755
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 8: glimmer of, oh, okay, if her and Monique maybe could

1756
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 8: work through the whole whatever that thing.

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01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 9: Is of them being wags like big Mama Wag and baby.

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01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: Wag, it could be interesting.

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01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 8: I actually think Monique is more student to be for

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01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 8: Angel what Giselle was supposed to be. In her mind,

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01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 8: she wanted Gizelle to be her big sister. I think

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01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 8: Monique is a better big sister for her. I just

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01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 8: think that she's gonna mess it up. I don't think

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01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 8: it's gonna last, but I think it'd be a good attempt.

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01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 3: Don't find the words no, thank you?

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01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 5: Okay, but I do get what you're saying calls about

1768
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 5: like you know, you like you don't have a lot

1769
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 5: of skinning the game with all the other girls' stories, right,

1770
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 5: so you're gonna you don't have a whole bunch of

1771
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 5: you don't have like deep relationships with these people. You

1772
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 5: don't have a season before this and a season before that.

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01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 5: You don't have multiple seasons, so I have, like you know,

1774
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 5: like I said, skinning the game with these other women.

1775
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 5: So you kind of jump in when you can. But

1776
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 5: whenever she did jump in, she did get shure, she

1777
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 5: got shut down. Even her own homegirl was like.

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 6: I'm talking, I'm speaking, I'm speaking, I got this. I

1779
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 6: don't need you to defend me. I'll defend myself.

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01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 8: And I was like, oh, she was getting happening. It

1781
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 8: keeps that's a new defended k but it keeps happening

1782
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 8: for and it's not a fluke.

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01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 4: I ain't on the couch. I don't give a fuck.

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 7: All I know is you know what I'm saying. Would

1786
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 7: nobody be cussing me the fuck out? I can tell

1787
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 7: you that. And furthermore, I wouldn't be allowing nobody to

1788
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,839
Speaker 7: do that. So to me, that's you know, boohoo, boo hoo. Cribaby,

1789
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 7: what did Jocelyne sayabyaby? Second Mama Diddy?

1790
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 4: Right?

1791
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 7: Like, it's hard out here for everybody. You know what

1792
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Everybody was the first time doing something. You

1793
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Everybody on that couch had the

1794
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 7: first season. I think that something. Things are just not

1795
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 7: good fits for certain people. I don't want to see

1796
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 7: nobody lose their job, so I'm not advocating. I'm not

1797
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 7: one of those viewers that be like I need that goal.

1798
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 4: That ain't me.

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01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I was thoroughly underwhelmed by Angels reunion performance.

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01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 7: You know, I'll just say that that's it, especially that

1802
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 7: part you have to.

1803
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 4: Use me example, like you do she like like that

1804
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, you Angel, you gotta she

1805
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 4: at least gotta look. You know what I'm saying.

1806
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 7: I wanted to go in there and grab speaking to TMJ,

1807
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 7: I wanted to grab her jaw be like no you

1808
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 7: look at her, stand.

1809
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 4: Up at it like you know, all right.

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01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the summer thousand people who joined tonight,

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01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Claudia Blue, That's what I love you, guys.

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Speaker 3: We are back next week to recap part three of

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01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 3: the reunion.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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