WEBVTT - Listen: Anthony Becht (2/29) 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome to the official JEZZ podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.440 Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen, joined by Anthony Becked here in Indianapolis. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:11.639 Thanks for coming on the pot. Yeah, man, this is great. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.200 It's good to see you guys. Guy like kind of 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:17.279 a mini radio radio is that what they're calling him? Yeah, 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.079 so this is good. I see all the teams here 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.000 and like radio rectangle radio fenced in area, and you 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.040 guys look like the most active table, which is always good. Thanks, 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.920 hard working team in the NFL. I'm sorry I apologized 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.560 I rushed you guys back from your lunch. Four stars Listen. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.920 I have to say that I was here right, you 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:39.680 were here rady to go. You skip lunch to do 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:47.599 extra work? Well, Ethan, yeah, actually it was Chick fil A. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.320 But okay, I a more serious no, what are you 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.600 doing here at the COMMA? Yeah? So last week, um, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.840 you know Tracy Pelmin part of the NFL Legends. They 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.360 have a bunch of their players coming into Men Tour, 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.520 the positions for each group that that that's attending here 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.039 from the universe, the different college kids. So they asked 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.080 me if I wanted to represent the tight End group 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.520 and I was like absolutely, I mean, this is fantastic. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.440 So basically what that entails for me is came to 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.920 town and uh, I basically am in every meeting, I'm 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.280 walking with him, I'm eating with every tight end the 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:26.240 tight end group for this for this year's NFL draft. Uh, 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.000 it's myself, and there's um a national scout that's with 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.720 them that kind of runs the group, uh, Chris Prescott 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.880 from the Chicago Bears, and then there's two other he 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.080 is okay, you remember good, Yeah, And then there's two 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.920 other scouts from two other teams that kind of help out, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.000 and then there's me. So I just kind of blend in, 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.320 you know, and just kind of give them any kind 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.280 of mentorship advice. UM. I tried to sit down with 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.560 each one of the kids and talk to them and 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.480 just pick their brain. I've seen about there's twenty of 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.440 them here. I've seen about uh fit of teen of 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.280 them live, you know, calling games in college football. I 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.520 know their game. I studied them. And then there's some 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.600 guys like places like Dayton and Portland's State that you know, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.000 people don't know. And I can't get that film unless 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.360 you YouTube, and you gotta watch the whole two hours 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.080 instead of the cut ups. So uh, you know, some 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.079 of them went to Senior Bowl, watch their Senior Bowl 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.800 practices and just got caught up on the football side. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.679 But this is just more kind of given this guidance 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.840 for this window right now, and then, like I was 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.519 telling you off the air, Eric about the first year, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.359 right just giving them some guidance there. Listen, I told me, like, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.680 I got twelve years of good things, bad things, you know, 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.840 all kinds of information. And then of course, uh, you know, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.480 use me as a resource moving forward because they're gonna 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.520 have their agents and all that, but they're not gonna 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.000 know right, they're gonna I don't want these guys to 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.600 to learn on the go. Some things they will and 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.120 that's good. But if anything that I can answer that 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.200 was looking for answers for that I couldn't get, I 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:55.960 can give that to them. And I think, to me, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.680 that's a that's a valuable resource to have. So that's 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.800 why I'm here and I hopefully I get to do 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.800 this every year. Did some of the guys recognize Anthony. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.120 That's a great question. So so you know, look, I'm 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.280 I'm realistic, Okay. I was here twenty years ago to 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.000 the date and uh, you know I have. I had 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.480 met a very few number of these guys when I 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.799 was calling football games. Uh some remember, but but majority 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.360 of them did not know who I was. And I 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.880 didn't hurt my feelings at all. And then as we 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.120 start talking and I let them know my credentials as 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.200 far as what I've gone and and give my little spiel, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.040 and the the antennis start to go up a little bit, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:37.840 and then a couple of them start googling stuff and 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.000 then the next day like, oh, you do that or 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.800 you do this, and then I start reeling off my 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.600 times that I had here, and we'll get into that later. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.280 But then they really started getting out in and listening 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.280 to me, so, uh, they all know me now, which 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.080 is good, and that's okay. It doesn't hurt my feelings. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.560 I mean, listen, two thousands to two thousand, twenty. Although 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.000 it doesn't seem like you know, a big this twenty years, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.440 I mean, you know it kind of. I went back 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:01.800 to my room then I was like sat down. I 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.200 was like, wow, I was twenty years ago. So but 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.240 nothing's changed. I think there's only one new drill this year. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.880 It's a fade catch. Other than that's been exactly the 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.360 same since I was doing it and before then. So, uh, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.800 to answer your question, no, not too many of them 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.040 knew who I was twenty years ago. Anthony, I want 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.640 I want to go back there for a minute, because 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.640 he hear all these stories about different prospects being asked 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.279 interesting questions per se. Is there one that sticks out 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.479 to you or a couple from from me? Yeah, I 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.400 was asked, man, you know, I don't have taken you 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.560 back a little bit. Yeah, you're right, and uh, you know, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.200 but it was such a I had such a kind 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.520 of a clean palette when I came out of school, honestly, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.760 I mean I had really good grades. You know, I 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.960 wasn't kind of involved in you know, all the other 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.960 riff raff. I didn't get in trouble. You know, I 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.560 kind of saw, uh, you know, the I on the 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.039 prize kind of thing at the end and um. But 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.040 you know, like as I'm looking at the giants, you know, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.520 they do a big psychological evaluation. You know, it's like 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.400 a three question. I don't know if they still do it. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.960 I think the guys tell me they did. But you know, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.839 one of the questions, like, you know, do you prefer 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.520 yourself to be a cat or that. That's what I 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.200 was about to bring up because I saw that on 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.000 Twitter the other day and I'm like, well, how do 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.400 you answer? I'm trying to say, like, okay, well, I'm 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.120 actually as I'm I'm reading and I'm thinking, I'm like, well, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.919 what are the bad things about each right? Because you know, 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.599 we all know there's a lot of good things that 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.039 I honestly don't. I don't want to offend any of 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.880 the listeners. You know, I don't like cats. I'm just 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.720 not a cat guy, never was, you know, just not 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.040 my cup of tea. You know, I'm not an animal. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.919 I'm not an animal lover. If it's not my animal 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.960 or my pet, I'm I'm cool this and that, I'll 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.080 pet it. You know. I like puppies, but I don't 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.360 want to own one. So I just went with the dog. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.839 I just know a lot meaner dogs that are out there, 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.760 and just you know, when you think German shepherd a 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.320 trade one and and Doverman pincher, those are like legit skit, 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.359 you know, you're just like man and they're authoritive dogs. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:51.560 I was like, I just put a dog, you know, 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.960 So I don't know if that prevented them from drafting me. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.560 But you know, it didn't work out with us and them, 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.240 so I ended up being the jet, which is good, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.080 but that was one of the ones. I remember at 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.320 the top of my head. One of the guys told me, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.080 you guys never have had a dog. Huh when I 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.920 was one years old, before I could remember, we had 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.320 a dog. And then uh, it was only for a year, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.320 and then after that, I've never had a I've never 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.200 had a like a four legged pet, which means why 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.720 you have fish or exactly see he picks out you listen, 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.720 at least you're listening to me when I'm talking. I did. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.719 I've had multiple fish. I've had the fair fishes that 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.400 die a month later, all the time, the goldfish in 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.680 the bag. I tried. I tried to keep those things going. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.400 One time, I got it for like over a year. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.360 Not to get off topic, but I was able to 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.400 keep it, you know, going for a year, which was good. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.760 But yeah, and you know, at the aquarium one year, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.120 it was like, oh, and I had to have something. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.919 We had an aquarium. We bought all these fish and 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.040 then eventually we just got you know, well, speaking of cats, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.680 the jets traded the Big Cat to the New York 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.040 Giants because you just mentioned the Giants and like that. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.839 That there brings it all full circle math, psychological evaluation. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.600 If you just have cat in your name, then that's 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.359 where they're going to have an extra. The Jets have 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:03.159 an extra third round pick, and so four picks in 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.000 the first thirty rounds. We'll have to see if the 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.679 Giants signed Leonard Williams to an extension, because I believe 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:15.440 that could become the pick could become a fourth round 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.800 pick uh next year as opposed to a fifth round pick. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.560 That's all based on whether Giants side Leonard Waves to 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.960 an extension. But let's go back twenty years to your 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:32.400 combine measurements. The glasses are coming on vertical leap for 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.640 Anthony back thirty three point five inches. That was my meteor. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.080 That's like the median. That was my one thing. And 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.200 as I'm looking at this, this is not correct, but 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:47.200 the four correct. Dick Haley, long time, long time scalt 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.680 at the Jets. When I ran my forty, he gave 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.920 me my time. He had me down at a four 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.040 six uh eight four six eight is my time. So 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.840 this came from where I don't know where that came from. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.760 I did not run at the combine line. I ran 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.480 into pro that. So I'm going with the team that 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.400 drafted me and the guy obviously Dick Kelly, if anybody 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.800 knows anything. Yeah, so four six eight at two seventy 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.080 pounds is the legit time that I did that I 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.560 ran that. I'm going with. You know, that's wild. What 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.960 about the twenty yard shuttle four point zero eight seconds accurate? Yes, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.400 four point eight point point four point zero eight is accurate. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.320 That is a Now, if you just look over the 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.680 course of time and you look at who those kind 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.920 of times and who's running those, you're talking about elite 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.520 tight ends that are low and weight that you know 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.040 are just super fast freaks. And then a lot of 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.839 receivers are having a hard time hitting four oh eight 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.839 uh in some of their shuttle time. So that time 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.400 twenty years ago would still be and it might be 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.080 the best time only till we'll talk about this in 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.800 another episode. It might be the best time of the 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.240 tight ends this year. I'm going out in the limb 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.439 and the guys that we have here, I don't think 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.760 you'll see any of these tight ends, not that that's 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.600 a bad thing. They're gonna get some times that are 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.760 gonna be good and they're gonna wild team with four 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.040 twos and four and that's that's good for teams, it's 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.520 really good. But the four oh weight will open eyes 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.400 even more in that would be what is it? What 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.280 is the twenty yard shuttle for people who don't know. Yeah, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.960 so it's basically, you start in the middle of a 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.720 cone and five yards to your right there's a cone, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.200 and five yards to the left there's a cone. So 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.520 you start in the middle and you go to the right, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.400 you touch the cone, then you go all the way 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.000 across to the second cone, which brings you to fifteen yards, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.600 so five over, ten across, and then run back to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.960 the middle, which gives you a twenty yard shuttle back 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.280 and forth. And uh, you know when when you're training 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.040 for these things, you know, guys don't I was talking 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.600 a lot. I'm like, oh, how much did you train 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.199 for these drills that we do it once a week 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.280 would be our combine drill stuff. Well, I trained this 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.240 stuff after the Senior Bowl. I did nothing except drills 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.840 for whatever. It was a month. It was a month 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.840 right to the contents about the same time every day 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.800 we did those drills, and we mastered it, and it 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.840 came down the angles, it came down the geometry. I 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.719 promise you none of these kids are talking about those 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.760 were with their trainers. I'm promised you they weren't. But 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.040 there is a specific way to get yourself around and 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.320 then when you start practicing, you get the body lean 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.719 and stuff like that. So I knew coming in man, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.920 and back then you didn't know what the drills were. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.560 So none of the agents really knew unless you had 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.760 an inn with a scout, and we hired our agency 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.920 hired a scout, so I had all the information. Now 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.080 they know, and it's actually shocking to me. I actually 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.920 watched guys now last year that still don't look like 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.000 they've never run the drill before, which is a shame 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.480 because they should know. But information out there, so you know, 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.360 like the Gauntlet, you see guys around the gaunt, like 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.240 how these guys have run this thing perfect? Guys are 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.600 going in figurate some we'll talk about that, but yeah, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.480 so that that's the drill. That's what I did, and 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.080 that is honestly, that's an elite and on the big 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.400 pumping my head up you guys know the numbers. That's 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.200 an elite time. Uh, and you'll see receivers that won't 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.720 get that time. So I'm proud of that. For well, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.960 would you have run that's one of your shuttle in 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.040 right now, right now, more more or less than double 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.960 your best time. Uh. You know what, right now, I 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.680 showed my kid how to do one because he's in 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.200 high school and they have these drills and stuff, you know, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.080 at these camps that he goes to, and um, you 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.040 know what, I bet you I could I could swing 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:16.440 uh a low high five probably, I'll tell I don't 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.480 have the flextion, you know. No, Well, still, I mean 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.200 what he's getting those kind of times. I mean that's 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.240 even the biggest sloppiest lineman is getting below a six. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.719 I'd say, well, I know, but I'm saying, listen, you're 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.040 not a guy works out too much anymore. You still 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.280 could rock. Don't put me on the spotlight. Yeah, he 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.160 had his back with the lunch thing. Now he's coming back. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.920 I'm not coming I'm just saying, is that that's good 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.240 just waking up and getting in the funnel. You know, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.320 as I'm around some of these young guys and I 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.360 see some of my some of the coaches and some 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.520 former players that I played with that our coaches and scouts, 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.240 and they're kind of shape and stuff, and I guess 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.839 I gotta star nine stars. What about the bench? You 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.720 didn't bench here? I did not bench. Uh. Yeah, So 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.199 I'll be honest with you. My bench was not one 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.160 of my strong points. And I wanted to maximize the 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.960 time that I could continue to bench and grow. So 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.840 I went into my pro day and did it um 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.480 and uh, I passed on it. I was trying, like 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.360 the industry standard was to get the twenty and I 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.880 couldn't get to that. But I will say this, the 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.240 bench is not being as good as a blocker as 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.480 I was. The bench was not a dictator of you know, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.000 how well I I benched and you know and all 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.400 that stuff. Yeah I did so I did nineteen times 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.559 in my pro day, which was you know, right right 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.280 about the standard. Some guys will get below that. Some 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.559 you'll see tight ends. Now. I think West co had 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.719 four uh last year, which that's pretty damn strong, you know, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.439 when you're talking about bench and West Virginia guy, right, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.240 so uh, not all of us were as strong as him, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.360 but you know, um uh that that twenty numbers a 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.760 kind of a good standard number to get to it. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.360 I thought that was close enough. So that's what I 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.079 did at the protest. I have a two part question 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.640 for you. The first is how different are the combine 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.920 drills than just normal football, because you're talking about train 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.120 inning and you know, I'm just gonna use the forty 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.400 yard dash an example because everyone loves the forty it's 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:11.400 it's such a formula from mechanics from the stands to 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.439 getting out. And then the second part, you mentioned the gauntlet. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:15.800 I don't know if you know that they're timing the 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.240 gauntlet this year. They're timing it, So I just want 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:23.360 to engage that. What time is reasonable? I don't know, Yeah, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.000 that's what I'm saying. I yeah, I don't I don't know. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.000 Where do you start with that? I don't know. I mean, yeah, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.640 I guess you can time it. You know, the guy 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.480 does it right, if he stays in the straight line 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.760 and he catches the thing smooth, that's a good that's 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.480 a good gauntlet. Now you've got to make sure you're 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.600 going full speed and you can kind of tell if 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.880 the guy is. But if there's anything off the center 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.080 of the line. And you know to what a gauntlet 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.640 is if you remember, the guys catch the ball one two, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.240 and they turn and they run down the line and 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.120 they go left the right. The balls get thrown to 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.760 them by quarterbacks, and then they finish at the end, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.439 turn up the field and score runder the coach or 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.240 the cone, and that that's a dictator that dictates it 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.200 for me. I mean as far as a time, I'm 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.679 not quite sure what that's gonna mean for me or 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.760 anybody watching it or any scouts. But maybe it sets 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.280 the bar moving forward, don't Don't you think it would 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.000 just make a receiver who might be slow playing it 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:16.360 think twice about running let's say, as opposed to running 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.240 faster psychologically, Yeah, I would say that would help. I mean, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:20.600 if they're telling me it was time, then I would 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.400 want to have the best time. Then I would want 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.160 to go, you know, faster. So that hopefully gets everybody 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.160 just going full speed, which is important because that's a 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.280 part of it. Being able to control your body at 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.880 the fastest speed when the ball is coming at you. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.680 It's not the easiest thing to do, you know, so uh, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.800 you know that that will dictate a bunch. But I mean, yeah, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.120 that'll be uh, that'll be interesting. But I go, on, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.480 that's a good drill. I can usually tell if guy's 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.280 gonna be a good pro or not just off that 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.400 drill by the wrong thing to assess, because guys can 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.440 always get better. But the fact that you've been able 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.520 to train for this and not do it right is 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.760 you know that that kind of bombs You mentioned Mr 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.200 Hayley before. Um did you meet with the Jets at 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.320 the combine? Um? I did not know. Yeah, And you know, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.720 it's funny because these guys, they have their meetings all week, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.840 so they'll sit in the middle. They'll talk to different teams, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.920 and then they'll also have formal meetings with other uh 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.440 NFL teams with like the GM and the head coach, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.640 and some guys kind of sit around and they feel 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.120 like they're not getting called upon or or I have 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.200 many meetings to go to. And I said, don't worry 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.720 about that. I said, the team that drafted me didn't 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.400 talk to me at all. I didn't meet anybody uh on. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.840 I didn't even take an official trip uh to the Jets. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.320 I went to the I went to a Giant's official trip. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.080 I went to uh Cleveland Browns as an official trip, 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.000 and uh, I think that was uh. I may have 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.880 a one more place I can't remember, but that was it. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.480 So I had no communication with the Jets barter of fact, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.440 I thought I was going. We We felt pretty good 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.560 about number fourteen to green Bay. Green Bay ultimately picked 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.520 Bubba Frank's, the other first round tight end that year. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.440 But up to the day before the draft, they had me, well, 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.720 at least they told my agent, Ron Wolfe, said that 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.480 they had me rated above him. But inside I heard 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:04.080 Ron wolf flew down to Miami that the day before 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:05.880 the draft and worked him out one more time because 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.200 Bubba didn't work out well for some reason. His times 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.560 were messed up. He he lost weight game weight, and 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.800 he went down one more time before the draft, and 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.400 I guess he sealed the deal. So uh, he cost 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.960 me some money up front, you know, I tell him 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.680 Bubba Frank's cost me money. And the fact that Chad 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.000 Pennington didn't go to the Steelers of the forty niners 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.920 and bumped down the seventeen, that cost me money. Because 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.280 when I did, when I did, hear from Parcels and 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.800 this guy after I said, you know, we're one of 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.200 the better tight ends. We like you over Bubba Franks. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.040 Then I was thinking out, once he's off the board, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.760 I'm gonna go seventeen. And then uh, I didn't go there, 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.960 So chattles me some money too. He cost me some cash, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.360 and I tell him out all the time, so he 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.560 buys dinner all the time. He was a quarterback, so 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.040 he's got the cash. And by the way, you talked 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.320 about the hundreds of some of these guys beat your 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.920 marks from the combine twenty years ago. Are you a 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.720 guy who carries around hundreds in your wallet? Or would 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.640 you have to a t M at Basorry, did drop 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.280 my world or whatever? Uh? You know your answer. I'll 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.320 tell you I don't normally carry cash, but there are 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.720 times throughout the year when I have like stipend myself 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.160 where I'm traveling, where I may or may not have 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.359 each one a few hundreds uh on me, you know? 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.600 So uh you know. I don't want to give you 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.359 exact time because obviously there's listeners and if they see me, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:22.640 it might be that time of year, and I don't 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.119 want anybody to kind of jump on me and attack 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.680 me or anything like that. I don't think anybody's trying 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.320 to trying to come up in attack. I could probably 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.159 handle a couple, but you know, once you start, it 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:40.400 might be you know, distraction. Then you got pick pocketers. Okay, Yeah, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.000 twenties are good because there's it's sticking. They're breakable, They're 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.800 easily breakable. So I mean, you talked about a packet. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.879 This is such a random question, and this is probably 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.800 you know, this could be a combine question. But I 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:57.840 was asked once in in college, would you rather fight? Um, shoot, 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:02.720 what is it? It's like a hundred one duck sized 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.600 horse or a hundred or the opposite. I I gotta 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.119 think of the The sounds like a real good question. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.520 It's great Anthony was talking about by a pack a 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.959 duck size, a duck sized horse or a hundred ducks? 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:27.320 Is that what it is? Hold on, but you'd rather 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:32.880 fight one horse sized duck or a hundred duck sized horses? 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.760 A hundred duck sized horses because you know, listen, you 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.480 get a big duck, they start bobbing their head and 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.679 poking with that big I don't want to do that 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.760 business because I'm not I'm not as quick. I feel 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.840 there's a quickness factor. I see them doing it when 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:47.719 they're small and they can really jab and do their 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.440 different things. That's not my that's not my cup of tea. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.000 So I feel like being tall and just have the 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.080 element of squashing. You know, I don't think that a 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.840 hundred duck sized horses. I'm glad, d D. I'm glad 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.679 not taking either. Um. Now, since you're working with the 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.400 tight ends here in Indianapolis, I would say right now, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.600 if you're a Jets fan, you feel pretty comfortable where 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.240 you're at with the tight ends. Ryan Griffin came on, 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:17.320 you signed him to an extension, uh late in the season. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.720 Chris Herndon basically had a lost year, but he should 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.960 come back a hundred percent for you. You mentioned tray 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.879 one West go before. The Jets also resigned Daniel Brown 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.640 so he will not enter free agency. So right now, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.560 I look at the position and say a lot of depth. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.040 I'm quite excited if I'm a fan about the tandem 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:42.240 of Griffin and Herndon. And I don't know if this 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.119 is a team that is going to be looking at 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.840 the tight end position through that first four or five 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.679 round range. Yeah, I don't think so either. UM, you know, 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.920 you still gotta evaluate them and do those things. I 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:54.879 know coach Dunn has been around and I've seen him 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.239 quite a bit. Uh, you know, just making sure they 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.360 do their homework on those tight ends. But you know, yeah, you're, 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.000 like you said, the fact that you're getting Herndon back 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:03.920 that that makes the group larger because he didn't start 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.119 the season and he wasn't healthy throughout the season. So 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.600 to have all those guys back, to have them healthy 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.040 and use those guys, you got a full gamut of 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.600 what you need. And then of course, as Westcoe got 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.359 some playing time more towards the end of the season, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.840 he became a better player. I know they're very high 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:19.280 on him. They like what he brings to the table. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.879 He is he's very physical, he's strong, he's aggressive on 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.240 the field, he's nasty, he's a finisher, and they just 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.760 you know, you can't find that out there. As I 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.240 look at the names in this draft, I don't know 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.480 if there's any of those guys that want to do that. 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.720 So that is, you know, and and plus he, like 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.440 you said, he can move around a little bit, run 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.919 some intomedia routes and do those things. So you know, 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.119 again another year under his belt where his head was 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.320 swimming early on the year. But and I think that's 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.480 good because they threw a lot at him where now 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.760 he'll you know, come into this season feeling a little better, 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.239 feeling more confident. You should see a different player and 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.680 hopefully get more playing time and make that group a 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.680 whole lot better with those guys. Is it a leap 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.760 to think that if you do have a healthy Herndon, 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.159 I know he just played one professional season, but we 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:05.080 saw what Griffin was and that connection he established with 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.359 Sam Donald is a leape to say, hey, maybe this 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.040 could be one of the better one two punches in 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.800 the NFL at the position. Well, it's nice to have 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.040 two options to guys that can run routes. I mean, 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.440 obviously Ryan Griffin had I had a nice uh you know, 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.320 had some nice catches throughout the year, some red zone stuff, 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.800 which yeah, he was. I mean, he's a big kid. 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:24.800 You know, I didn't realize how you know, tall, he's 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.119 like a true sick just slightly with his six six right, 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.080 so he's like a true six six. So when you 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.600 see him, he's just like he's a towering guy. But yeah, 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.679 he's in a fishing blocker. He does. He did some 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.720 good stuff on the edge this year. He still runs well, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.680 which is good, and uh, you know those things are good. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.520 And then hern didn't look at you know, you just 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.440 you gotta you gotta get your act together as kind 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.280 of your you know where you're where you're gone right. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.520 You don't want any distractions. You don't want to get suspending. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.159 You wanna you know, you want to be on You 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:53.960 want to be where you need to be so we 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.320 can utilize you. The best ability we always talk about 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.160 is availability, and that's the biggest thing with Chris. Going 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.200 through an offseason, going through a trainee camp and being 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.520 able to start game one will do him great and 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.400 we can see some of the great things or more 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.040 of the great things that he showed from the year before. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.320 So that'll be key. He's got to have a big year. 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.720 In my opinion, that's just because he should. I mean, 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.560 that's the kind of player that I think we all 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.440 think he is and that he needs to go out 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.560 there and show that, not prove it. We know we 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:20.919 can do. He just gotta do it now and be 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.800 available every week and continually, you know, grow that tandem, 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.960 not just between those two tight ends with the quarterback 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:33.000 for Trayvon westco to go through the draft, be drafted rookie, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.800 mindee camp, training camp, like there's no downtime, and then, 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.080 like you said, you're thrown into the fire. And I 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.679 feel like most rookies are thrown into the fire like that. 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:45.880 So how much can he grow as a blocker from 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.199 year one to year two? Because at the end of 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.119 the season, John Dunne said he's progressed nicely. But to 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.800 finally have time to sit back, you know, relax a little, 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.439 then get back to work, how much more efficient do 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.199 you think he can be as a blocker? Yeah, I 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.560 mean it comes down to when he when he understands 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.760 how to be a technician with his footwork and know 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.600 how to put it all together on impact. I mean, 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:11.720 everything else is there. I mean, when you do it 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.200 right and you're as aggressive and as a finisher as 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:18.200 he is, that's scary proposition. And you know coach Done 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.479 knows that, and that's gonna be a big thing. I 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.040 know that for sure. I know guys that just are 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.280 extremely good. You know, they they're strong at the attack, 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.280 this and that, but they don't understand how to get 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.800 their feet go to their opponent get their footwork down 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:33.320 so they can put it all together. And when they 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:36.080 do that, those guys become elite. And it took me 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.160 a while to to to figure that out. I mean, 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.120 I thought I was a good blocker when I came out, 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.480 but quite honestly, I was. I was still behind because 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.560 I didn't know the technique. And then I learned it 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.280 my first year, second year, and the third year. All 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.760 of a sudden, now you start understanding. And of course 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.040 as we move forward, that was the master plan to 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.280 be that guy, because that gave me the extra years 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:54.720 of my career that I wanted. What do you like 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:59.200 most about Joe Douglas right now? And this is really 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:03.960 a start, uh the first professional offseason as general manager. 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.080 He got hired in June, and I know a lot 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:10.119 of people had problems with the timing externally, but Joe 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.800 has one on record to say it actually helped me 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:17.040 coming in because I was able to evaluate everything that 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.240 was going on for five six months, put my processes 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:24.960 in place. And now here's his first true offseason at GM. 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:29.280 I mean, listen, you know he's never uh had a 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.680 draft class that he could call his own. I mean, 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.760 this is his first opportunity. He has worked his way 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.640 up from ground zero all the way up to where 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.040 he is now. He learned as an area scout, he 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.000 learned as a as a now a regional scout. Then 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.480 he moved the national and then he got the different areas. 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.400 And then you talk about the teams he was with 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.520 and their success, you know, being around, uh, the Baltimore 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.960 Ravens and the success they had there, and then bouncing 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.600 over to the Philadelphia Eagles, learning from Howie Roseman and 0:24:57.640 --> 0:24:59.720 all those kind of guys in those pieces, and now 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.919 you're finally ready and you're right. At the time, it 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.320 was scary what what the Jets were gonna do with 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.160 the general managup is, But the fact they we're able 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.800 to get a guy like him was a bonus. I 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.159 think a lot of people's mindset and thought process changed 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.560 when they actually got him, Like, all right, it wasn't 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.040 as bad as we thought. Is this guy is gonna 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.680 be a legit guy. So now I'm excited to see 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.280 how he goes. And I think the one thing where 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.679 we've always kind of been pressed upon him is he's about, 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.479 you know, inside out, building a team inside out, So 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.479 like I'm all about that because I think, you know, 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.520 there's a lot of skilled players out there that can 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.920 help football teams. But if you don't have the interior guys, 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.680 a defensive line, the offensive lineman to get those guys 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.560 where they need to go, whether it's through holes as 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.359 a back, or protection to get balls to the receiver 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.320 or the the help protect the quarterback, you're out. You're 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.840 out of luck. So, uh we saw a little movement 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.360 obviously last year with some guys bringing some lineman in 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.480 Lewis and whatnot. Uh So, I think this is gonna be, 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.199 you know, with this draft heavy with a lot of 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.600 guys like that, and of course there are some free agents. 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.359 You know, I don't know how the money's gonna be spent. 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.439 You know, if I'm the general manager or I'm going 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.600 to use the the chunk of the change if I 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.240 can have got an interior guy. There's shirts out there, 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.240 there's guys where you know, are are really good guys. 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:09.960 You just gotta do your homework. You know, some guys 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:11.880 are coming off injuries, some guys you know, where are 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.800 they and it doesn't make it reasonable enough to spend money. 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:16.320 And of course you know with free agency guys, we 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.320 all know, we you tend to overspend because you know, 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.440 it's just like those guys are kind of available, you're 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.400 putting spots, and uh, that's the importance of a free agency, 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.199 right it is you can get sometimes you get a 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.640 starter in that second tier, that initial wave. You have 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.760 to overspend otherwise you're not getting. And those skill positions 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.639 sometimes are a little easier to find. That when you're 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.040 talking about Lyneman being across the league, that there's not 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.560 many good ones, let alone the depth those guys get 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.480 sucked up. So you don't really find guys hanging around, 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.320 right you got you know, even free agency, it is like, man, 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.119 if you can't hang on them, then you must have 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.440 a really good line if you can't hang onto a guy, 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.560 right So, and that really is the problem the issue. 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.480 So they normally have something like a nagging injury or 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.040 this and that, and they're just trying to cut bait 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.520 on that salary. So you just got to be I've 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.439 seen it go bad sometimes and and obviously you know 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.600 Joe's seen at all. I mean he's been at those 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.000 those things when those free agency times have gone, and 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.120 those teams that he's with had to get those kind 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.320 of linemen. He's got that experience watching it and it 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.760 will be key obviously with free agency wherever they go, 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.240 and of course in the draft as well. You cover 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.639 college football throughout the season, so just keeping keeping this 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.200 on the offensive line. Talk how many of the top 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:29.320 tackles have you seen live? Between Jedrick Wills out of Alabama, 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.200 Tristan Worfs Iowa, McKay Beckton out of Louisville, and then 0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.680 Andrew Thomas out of Georgia. I saw all of them. 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.080 I saw Thomas twice this year. I saw him last 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:43.920 year twice. Um worse Okay, I saw him uh twice 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.560 as well this year and last year. He's my favorite guy. 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.520 I like him not. Thomas to me is just a 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.119 road grade animal and that's great, but you I do 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.640 need a guy that is smooth all the way around, 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.320 and I just feel like, you know that worse is 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.600 I'm excited to see him works at the COM mean, 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.760 there's some athletic dudes and that are gonna be doing 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.440 these drills. You know. Beckton's kind of that wow, like 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.159 we've never seen a guy this big. You know, what 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:10.359 is it? What's his met six? I mean that's you know, 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.240 you think about it like it's kind of like a 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.280 pony show kind of thing. But he's like a legit 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:18.600 dude who's very athletic as well basketball player, uh coming up. 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.959 I mean he did all kinds of athletic stuff like 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.040 off the field, like people would talk about at campus 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.720 at Lowellville and uh, you know, again, he's kind of 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.040 one of those I don't know if he's a wild 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.720 card because there's there's proven things that he's done. But 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.040 I know, I don't know. I just I've seen him. 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.680 I've seen him literally like just fold dudes up and finished. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.240 I mean, so he's got that in him. But he's 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.240 in that. He's in that world, man. I mean, he's 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.680 got really good tape. And then you know you talked 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.560 about the the Bama tackle. I mean those guys are 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.920 good Jones from Houston. Guys got like I've seen him 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.080 twice this year as well. Guys got like I think, 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.000 started every game in a Houston uniform. And the experience 0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.920 is awesome. And you can get guys that played a 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.000 lot of games. Um, you see Austin Jackson at all 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.960 out of USC. Austin Jackson did not have USC. UM 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.360 I had USC when we had a doga came out, 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.320 so I got to see a little bit of him. So, 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.600 you know, again I won't dig too deep on those 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.600 tab but those guys you're all talking about are in 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.160 the conversation. Uh potentially for the Jets and a lot 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.400 of other teams that they those guys may get, you know, 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.000 pushed up a little higher. What do you like about 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.800 works that makes him your top guy or your favorite? Well, 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.880 you know, any time you're coming from IHA, you're you're 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.360 coming from a program that technically you're doing things that 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.960 NFL teams doing the run game. You know, they really 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.920 haven't gone towards the spread runs, so there's not a 0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.760 lot of the sideways, you know, not a lot of 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.520 the you know, not attacking your opponent. They're still doing 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.080 power runs. They're still doing uh you know, full zone 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.560 inside zone runs. You gotta literally you gotta step forward 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.400 and attack guys. So technical, technically wise, he's gonna be 0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.520 very very strong. But athleticism, why pass set People talk 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.760 about his arms are short? I don't know what short arms? 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.280 I mean, you know, if you're if you never give 0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.280 up a sack and you're protecting the whole time, and 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.320 what the heck is the difference, and he's going against 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:12.360 epinessa is at a very highly rated defensive end for Iowa. 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.160 He's going against him every every day, right and they've 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.560 had several defensive linemen come out the last couple of 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.840 years that have been uh in the draft that are 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.480 playing in the NFL. So I just, you know, I 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.560 think all around, he's just a special player and uh, 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.760 you know, he's gonna open some eyes even more at 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.120 the combine because big guys doing those kind of things 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.440 are are interesting. What do you think a better suited 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.160 for Thomas? You mentioned he's a road grader. You like 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.360 him on the right side, Uh, yeah, I do. I 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.400 mean I think works two on the right side initially, 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.000 you know, yeah, uh those are guys that kind of 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.480 come in and you can play that position, but you 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.280 know they're not limited to the left side. But you know, 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.280 Thomas is just a guy that just literally is just 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.000 trying to if you're trying to improve your run game, 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.480 He's gonna be a good pass protector. But occasionally he's 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.520 gonna you know, those speed guys are you know, he's 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.680 gonna have to work through that, and it's fine. I mean, 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.640 you know, he's done it well and he's done it 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.520 poorly sometimes, but you know, you know, to me, running 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.520 game is an important part of this equation too. For 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.960 the Jets. When you got a guy like Bell on 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.360 your team, you gotta find ways to open up whole 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:14.800 so we can get him into the second one you 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.120 want to restricted free agents for the Jets? What jumps 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.280 out at you the most because when you were talking, 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:24.680 when you we're talking about tackles and you're seeing worse man, 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.920 Maybe Thomas is potentially right tackles. Maybe the Jets resign 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.600 a guy like a Calvin Beecham and short term he 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.880 still is your left tackle. Who knows, but he's at 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.600 u f a uh. Jordan Jenkins fifteen secs the last 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:44.040 two years playing strong side linebacker for you. Um, he's 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:48.200 an unrestricted free agent, Robbie Anderson, he might be the 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.800 most coveted, young, talented receiver on the market. If Amurray 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:57.160 Cooper indeed does stay in Dallas, UM, you have a 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.920 lot of interesting decisions to make in the house before 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.440 you get the march A team. Well, you know, listen, 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.680 you obviously you want to try to keep Robbie if 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.840 you can. The market will dictate if you can or 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.720 not right, because you do have other things you have 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.920 to find for this football team. There are some other 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.640 receivers out there that that are good, but you're talking 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.520 about youth explosiveness. You know, Joe was talking about guys 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.120 that you know just play man. He's one of he 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.160 fits that equation. And you know, like we talked about, 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.080 there are there is gonna be a uh you know, 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:30.040 free agency tends to overpay guys and if other teams 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.640 are out there throwing around some money and he's in 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.440 that upper you know, like you said, Mark Cooper is 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.160 probably going back to Dallas. A J. Green is another 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.920 guy up there, but you know he's coming off injury 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.560 and he's older. I mean, you know, where do you 0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:43.200 want to put your money? And I don't know if 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.240 that that makes a lot of sense, uh for the 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:52.080 Jets just just who do they just sign? Um? Yeah? 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.640 Young guy? You know, maybe sometimes another place is better 0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.360 for a guy. I mean, I like that kid coming 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.600 out of college. I really did just never really panned 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.000 out in Washington whatever it maybe so you know, maybe 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.600 he can come here and be a difference and you 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.680 got him kind of you know, per se on the cheap, 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.720 which is good. So uh, you know, look, I I 0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.600 would think, I look, I'm gonna try to get Robbie back, 0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.000 And the only reason why I wouldn't is because someone 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.400 is offering him an an outlandish contract. And you know 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.320 he's gonna have a little leverage there as a player 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.920 because there should be another team that that wants him 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.000 to come back. Now you talk about the offensive line, 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.600 I think that's a kind of uh, you know, go 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.120 as it as it comes up kind of thing. Let's 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.840 see what the free agency is available, let's go through 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.640 the draft, and then what can we accumulate from there. 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.160 And now we'll start saying, Okay, well you know why 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:40.840 we gotta keep this guy. We don't have to keep 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.080 this guy. And I think with Calvin Beacham, that's where 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.680 you are. Good player. You know you can count on 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.280 this and that, but you know you may be able 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.280 to get something a little different moving forward. So you know, 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.720 I think there's no rush on him in the in 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.280 the in the fact that you do have some other 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.560 things happening before before and see what happens, but that 0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:02.320 line is gonna look a lot different no matter what happens. Uh. Lastly, 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:03.920 I just wanted to get your thoughts on the wide 0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.760 receiver position because that's been the talk at Indie here 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.239 for a couple of days. This is one of the 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.439 most deep talented classes that I can remember. You're talking 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:18.399 about guys like Jerry, Judy, Henry Ruggs, um Ceedee, Lamb. 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.960 He might be the first wide receiver that comes off 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.479 the board. You could have as many as six, maybe 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.919 seven receivers first round. I don't know, they're talking about 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.479 twenty receivers in the first three rounds as we're talking. 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.080 Pull up the list of those guys that are here 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.200 on the combine. Yeah, because but I'll talk about the guy. 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.719 I think the consensus who I've talked to here at 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.040 the combine, I think everybody thinks that Judy is the guy. 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.440 They think that he's the primed receiver that if they 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.680 were to throw their their pick at and they need 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.920 a receiver in that market, will get him. Lamb is 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.040 another guy. Again, he's very close, he's very talented, and 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.000 you know, if that's the guy that they end up 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.360 getting because he's going, then they'd be very happy with 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.799 him as well. Um, it is a deep class. Uh. 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.000 You know, there's multiple receivers. You know, l s U 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:07.080 has a pretty good receiver. He's not bad. I mean, 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.560 you know, I think we saw a lot of him 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.760 this year and I'm telling you now he's pretty too. 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.200 He can dominate from the inside too. Yeah you know 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:19.080 that that's that's impressive. So that this list is alphabetical, unfortunately, 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:24.320 but like Brandon Aiyu popular name. Okay, so here's so 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.400 like a guy like uh, you know Limboden. Okay, he 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.080 let me scan this for you. So second, so like 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.080 a guy like Limbo and you wouldn't think, but he's 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.320 like one of the more dynamic players in the SEC. 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:37.040 Think about an atom Rando. Well that kind of a player, 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.200 a guy like um, you know, a Tasom Hill kind 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.040 of guy. He can do that. He's gonna be a 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.520 guy that I think may go higher than people think 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.040 because he's got that skill set that he can run, 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.640 passing and really catch. So that that those are things 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.800 are good. Uh. We talked about the Chase clay pool 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.960 pool kid from Notre Dame. Weighed in at two or 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.759 thirty eight pounds. Starting to look like a hybrid kind 0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.680 of tight end guy. So now you're talking about man, 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.880 we can have him. Put him in the slot and 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.000 he could be super dangerous. He's a mismatch problem if 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.440 a linebacker has to cover him game over, and then 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.160 the safety is a challenge because he's a bigger guy 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:17.040 height and weight wise. Uh. The guy from Minnesota Johnson 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:21.359 Tyler Johnson to me, I think that dude is he's 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.120 a really really good player. I think he's underrated. Uh, 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.680 he's as smooth as they came. I watched him in 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.960 that Bowl game against All Burn and he just annihilated them. 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.359 They couldn't cover him. And I think he's a guy 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.800 to me where he goes. Uh, he is gonna be 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.640 a guy to to to think about moving forward for there. 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.520 So those are a couple of guys I think off 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.920 the top of my head. I like den Denzel Min's 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.239 Baylor kid. Yeah he's a good Yeah, he's a he's 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.320 got great size, he's a great blocker, and he's a 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.280 big time playmaker down the field. People Jones, kJ Hamler 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.400 and Michael Pittman. I mean, there's like a stupid amount 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.399 of James prochet s m U you don't need probably 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.320 went in front of and that guy had a special season. 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.200 Jalen reagor TC. You had a good year. So it's deep, 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:06.759 and you know how it starts. You know, one guy 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.680 goes and then all of a sudden, the dominos go 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.120 oh and you know, I mean here's another guy Colorado. 0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.839 You know, he probably thinks he's the best receiver, uh 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.040 coming out of the draft. So look, if you need one, 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.040 and the Jets are in the market for it potentially, 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.040 but you're here in Judy's the top of this. Yeah, 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.560 that I would say the consensus ceedee lamb maybe right 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.520 yeah right there. Yeah, and then you know, look, it 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.680 could be it could be any of those guys going next. 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:32.239 And we're hearing Tyreek Hill comparisons for uh yeah, yeah, 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.759 I mean that's that's another burner. Yeah, another burner. So 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.839 you know you've got speed guys that can catch. You know, look, man, 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.319 if you're looking for explosive weapons, this is the year 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.560 to get it. And if you're looking for some tackles, 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.920 alignment guys that you know, you feel good, you think 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.040 you think ultimately the Jets data loving that will be 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:53.439 the decision. Attackle or receiver. Yeah, I'm taking I'm taking 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.320 alignments you are. That's just me. But I would especially 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.160 given the depth of this class, right, yeah, like that. 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.000 Do you think that play he's a factor? Of course, 0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:02.840 I think so. Yeah. I think if you do your homework, 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.440 you know, you get your scouts, you can get a 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.399 receiver in a second, real productive guy. I hope, Yeah, 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.759 I think you can. I mean absolutely. Alright, well man, 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.919 thanks for coming on the podcast here in India. Everything here, Yeah, 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:17.880 this is great. Yeah, and we didn't even get to 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.759 the three cone number that I had, but we'll put 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.840 it out there. But that's a six nine three cone 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.800 um that's I mean, yeah, google it. It's it's like 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:32.680 it's like impressive. I mean, receiver. If receivers likes if 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.480 if receivers get six nine four, like, teams will be 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.160 really happy about that. Think about that. I did it 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.239 at two d seventy pounds, so that's like, you know, 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.479 next level stuff. It's a lead stuff. But I trained, 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.560 I trained for those things, you know, like, oh, well 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.120 didn't match up the way, but well yeah, you know, 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.600 sometimes it does. But I was able to just prepare 0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:53.200 myself for that and ultimately help me DK metcalf. I'm 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.080 just using this as an example because he had a 0:38:55.120 --> 0:39:01.600 bad one. You didn't even touch me and his shuttle 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.360 is a four or five. That's a that's a disgrace. 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.080 But he's a good player. Well, he is a good player. 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:11.920 Do you see the comparison here on the tweet? Wow, 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.319 speaking of the underwear Olympics and one of the worst. 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.680 That all right, that's how we're ending the Official Jets 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.279 Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. You think you think 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.160 he's going to be back in New England bonus bonus content. 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.120 I think, yeah, okay, so what are you hearing. I 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:32.360 think there's a legitimate chance, stronger than people think that 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.280 he may leave. I initially thought that that's not happening. 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.480 But there's a there's a there's a small bug in 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.759 the air that says that there potentially is a team 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.440 in the market for him. And I'm say, hey, get out, 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.279 get out of town. If that's good, you know, for 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.440 for for Jets fans, right, let's go take that. Take that. 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.399 But if that bug's right there, there may be one 0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.640 team in the market. And uh, I think he's he's 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.640 thinking long and hard about it. And if the Patriots, 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.400 obviously you're gonna do everything you can they keep them, 0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:08.120 but there may be one alright, miss no charge. I 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.560 don't think it's gonna be charges all right. No mystery 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.680 is how we end here on the Official Jets Podcast 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.440 powered by Amazon Web Services. Anthony, thanks a lot and 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.120 good luck to your thanks and your tight ends.