1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the latest on President ELEC. Donald 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Trump's cabinet picks. Hedge fund chief Scott Bessant is his 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: nominee to become the next Treasury secretary. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: We get more from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 4: Bessant runs the macro hedge fund Key Square Group, and 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: he has deep familiarity with global financial systems and currency markets. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 4: Many of Besson's views are well known, particularly his three 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: three three policy cutting the budget deficit to three percent 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: of GDP by twenty twenty eight, spurring GDP growth of 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 4: three percent through deregulation and producing an additional three million 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: barrels of US crude oil per day. He's also talked 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: about a phased end approach to tariffs and extending Trump's 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: tax cuts in New York. I'm Doug Prisner, Bloomberg Radio. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: All Right, Doug, thanks with a market reaction to Donald 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Trump's pick of Scott Besson for Treasury secretary has been 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: a positive one. 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: Stocks and treasuries are rising. 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: And currencies around the world are gaining against the dollar. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: As Bloomberg's Kevin Whitelaw reports, investors believe the best in 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: choice will inject more stability into the economy and financial markets. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 6: As a hedge fund manager, he's sort of deep in 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 6: that sort of Wall Street world and has a pretty 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 6: good reputation among his colleagues for someone who understands how 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 6: markets work. And so I do think that there is 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 6: a pretty big sigh of relief from investors to say, 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 6: at least there's going to be, you know, someone in 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 6: the room who can speak for the markets. And the 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 6: pick also suggests that Trump is eager to find ways 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 6: to make sure that the markets approve of what he's doing. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Kevin Whitelaw adds that Besson has called for a 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: gradual approach to implementing trade restrictions and has appeared open 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: to negotiating on the exact size of tariffs. Well. 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: Karen Bested himself says he's going to focus on following 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: through on Trump's tax cut in tariff pledges once he 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: takes office. The hedge fund manager tells the Wall Street Journal, 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: putting tariffs in place and reducing spending will also be 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: a focus. 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Scott Besson at Treasury was part of a flurry of 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: cabinet announcement to end the week. Nathan the president elect 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: named Oregon Congressman Laurie Chavez de Riemer as Labor Secretary. 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Former NFL player Scott Turner is his choice to lead 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the deperman of Housing and Urban Development. Marty McCarey is 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: getting the nod to leave the Food and Drug Administration. 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Dave Weldon is Trump's pick to direct the Centers for 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Disease Control, and Fox News contributor Jeanette Najawat is in 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: line to be the next Surgeon General Well Karen. 50 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: Some of Trump's other cabinet picks could be in line 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: for tough scrutiny on Capitol Hill. Republican Senator James Langford 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: says he has questions about his Director of National Intelligence, 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Telsey Gabbart. 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: She met with Mishiro Sad. We'll want to know what 55 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: the purpose was and what the direction for that was. 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 7: As a member of Congress, will want to get a 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 7: chance to talk about past comments. 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 8: That she's made and get them into full context. 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: Senator Langford appeared on CNN's State of the Union. Democratic 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: Senator Tammy Duckworth says she's concerned about Defense Secretary Designate 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: Pete Hegsett's view that women should not serve in combat 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: piece is flat out wrong. 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 8: Our military could not go to war without the women 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 8: who were at this uniform, and frankly, America's daughters are 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 8: just as capable of defending liberty and freedom as her sons. 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: Senator Duckworth is a wlmptee from her service in the 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: war in Iraq. She appeared on CBS's Face the Nation 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: Heard Sundays on Bloomberg. 69 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: Radio Nathan while the incoming Trump administration staffs up that 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Biden administrations trying to clinch a ceasefire in the Middle 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: East before it leaves office. 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: Now. Israel's ambassador to the. 73 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: US says his country is close to an agreement with 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Hezbola and Lebanon. Michael Herzog told Israel's Army Radio it 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: could happen within days. It's unclear whether Hesbelo would accept 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: a deal. The AROUND backed militant group fired at least 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty rockets and drones into Israel yesterday alone. 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: White House Middle East Envoy Almos Hogstein was in Lebanon 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: and Israel last week on another round of Shuttle diplomacy. 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Turin the markets now, Karen, As we mentioned, stock futures 81 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: are higher, fueled by President Elect Trump's of Scott Bessen 82 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: to the choice there as. 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: The next Treasury Secretary. Natti A. 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Levell, senior US equity strategist for Global Wealth Management at UBS, 85 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: says the environment remains positive for stocks. 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: You have a. 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 9: Change in of the guard in terms of the government 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 9: with the red sweep. There is some uncertainty around government 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 9: policy and the risks that it could post to markets, 90 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 9: but fundamentally, the economy still remains quite strong. We have 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 9: in the economy that's grown above trend two and a 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 9: half percent pasting in the current quarter. Consumer that's so strong, 93 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 9: and a fact that's also now reducing interest rates, and 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 9: now all of that should be supportive to the market. 95 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: UBS is Natty A level expects the S and P 96 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: five hundred to hit sixty six hundred by the end 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: That's a more than ten percent gain from current levels. 99 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan wall Street is looking at a holiday shortened 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: trading week, with several tech companies and retailers scheduled to report, 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: we get a preview with Bloomberg's Charlie Pillard. 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 8: The S and P five hundred index begins the week 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 8: close to a record A strategists release their forecast for 104 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 8: twenty twenty five and Phil Orlandos, chief equity market strategists 105 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 8: at Federated Armies. 106 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 10: Ultimately share prices reflect stronger earnings and we could see 107 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 10: the S and P five hundred, you know, from six thousand. Now, 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 10: let's call it up into the seventy five hundred neighborhood 109 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 10: as we look out over the next couple of years. 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 8: This week's tech earnings reports include crowd Strike, HPNC, and 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 8: Dell Technologies. Among retailers, best Buy and Macy's will provide 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 8: further insight into the health of US consumers in New 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 8: York Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio, Thank. 114 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: You, Charlie. 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: And in Europe, UniCredit has made a ten point six 116 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: billion dollar all share bid for domestic rival Bunco BPM. 117 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: The acquisition would make UniCredit Italy's largest lender by total assets. 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: The offer comes during the lull in Unicredits efforts to 119 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: by its German rival, Commerce Bank, which faces stiff opposition 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: from the government In Berlin. 121 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: It is time now for a look at so many 122 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: of their stories making news in New York and around 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: the world, and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 5: John, Good morning, Yeah, Good. 125 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 7: Morning, Karen. The International Climate Summit has ended. After a 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 7: bitter fight, there is a deal on climate finance. I's 127 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 7: goid more this morning. In this report from Bloomberg's Genis Cervetti. 128 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 11: Nearly two hundred countries agreed to triple the amount of 129 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 11: money available to help developing countries confront rapidly warming temperatures. 130 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 11: But the deal reached at the close of the two 131 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 11: week COP twenty nine summit in Azerbaijan, resulted from fractious 132 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 11: and at times openly hostile negotiations, producing an agreement that 133 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 11: even its supporters may see as insufficient and disappointing. Rich 134 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 11: countries have pledged to provide at least three hundred billion 135 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 11: annually by twenty thirty five through a wide variety of sources, 136 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 11: including public finance as well as bilateral and multilateral deals. 137 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 11: Genus Cervetti Bloomberg Radio. 138 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 7: Hearing is said today for the Menendez brothers as they 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 7: try to convince a court to let them go free 140 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 7: thirty five years after they've murdered their parents, going in 141 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 7: front of a judge for the first time in their 142 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 7: new attempt to go free. The Menandez brothers are expected 143 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 7: to attend today's hearing, but remotely from prison. The brothers 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 7: claimed they should go free because they've been model prisoners, 145 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 7: and in a separate argument, they claimed there's new evidence 146 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 7: that their convictions should be vacated. A little known pro 147 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 7: Russian candidate was sent to win the first round of 148 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 7: Romania's presidential election after an unprecedented backlash against establishment candidates. 149 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 7: Caylin Georgescu, who ran as an independent and promoted himself 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 7: on TikTok, secured twenty three percent of the vote. The 151 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 7: result amounts to a sharp repudiation of established parties in 152 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 7: the Eastern European Union and NATO member state. The United 153 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 7: Nations says the deadliest place for women is at home, 154 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 7: and one hundred and forty women and girls on average 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 7: were killed by an intimate partner or family member per 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 7: day last year. The report released today on the International 157 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 7: Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. So the 158 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 7: increase was largely the result of more data available. If 159 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 7: the game show Giant has died. 160 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 12: Good morning, Toddy, all Welcome to Wheel of Fortson. 161 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 7: Chuck Wilry was eighty three. His decades long career included 162 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 7: hosting Love Connections, Scrabble, even taking his spinet Wheel of 163 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 7: Fortune in nineteen seventy, five years before Pat and Vanna. 164 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 7: Later in life, he hosted a right wing podcast, Global 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 7: News twenty four hours a day and Whatever you wanted 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 7: with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm John Tucker, and this is Bloomberg. 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 3: Karen. 168 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: All right, John Tucker, thank you. 169 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: by Tri State Outy. 171 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: Here's John stash Hour. 172 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 13: John, Good morning, Good morning Karen. For the Giants, things 173 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 13: have gone from bad to worse. Welcomed into MetLife Tampa Bay, 174 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 13: who had lost its last four. By halftime, the Bucks 175 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 13: led twenty three to nothing, had two hundred and forty 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 13: five more yards of offense. The final was thirty to seven. 177 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 13: The quarterbacks switched to Tommy DeVito. Hardly matter, not with 178 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 13: the way the Giants defense played. Giants are two and nine. 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 13: They've lost six in a ro o, their h one 180 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 13: sixth at home. He coaches Brian day Ball. 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 14: You know get down twenty three and nothing, no changes 182 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 14: a complexion of the game. Some had a good drive 183 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 14: coming out of half turned the football over, So just 184 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 14: just not good enough and that all starts with me. 185 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 13: The way things are going, Honor, John Marray is gonna 186 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 13: have to at least consider firing day Ball, who two 187 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 13: years ago as Coach of the Year. Mara famously said 188 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 13: that if Saquon Barkley leaves the Giants and signs with Philadelphia, 189 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 13: he'll have a hard time sleeping. How'd his sleep go 190 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 13: last night? After the Giants tobacco, Barkley rushed for two 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 13: hundred and fifty five yards. The Eagles won their seventh 192 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 13: in a row, thirty seven to twenty all over the 193 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 13: Rams and Washington Wild fourth quarter with Dallas Commanders had 194 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 13: an eighty six yard touchdown with twenty one seconds left, 195 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 13: just needed the extra. 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: Point for overtime. 197 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 8: Cyberc's got to have butterflies here for the tie blow snap. 198 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 5: It is good for the last sessial teams history. 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John 209 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 13: Stashie were Bloomberg Sports County. 210 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 15: Nathan Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 211 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 15: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 212 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 15: Bloomberg Business app. 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Investors 214 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: appear to be cheering President of like Donald Trump's choice 215 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: of Scott Bessant to lead the Treasury Department. Patrick Armstrong, 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: Chief Investment Officer Plorimiwald, says Trump could have gone in 217 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: a much different direction. 218 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 10: It could have been somebody who was very pro tariffs, 219 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 10: very much cutting town, but no offsetting fiscal discipline. And 220 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 10: those are the worries that Wall Street had. 221 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: Patrick Armstrong of Plury Me Wealth spoke on Bloomberg Television 222 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: this morning and joining us now is Bloomberg News Senior 223 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: editor Bill Ferries. So, Bill is Scott Bessant, the Key 224 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: Square Group founder, seen as the market safe choice compared 225 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: to what President Electrump could have done. 226 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: Good morning, Hey, good morning, Nathan. 227 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think so. 228 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 12: I mean, when you look at the whole panopoly of 229 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 12: people that President elect Trump has chosen for his cabinet, 230 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 12: there are some that have much more unconventional backgrounds. Scott 231 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 12: Bessant is not one of those. You know, he was 232 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 12: a chief investment officer for the George Soros, one of 233 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 12: George Soros's funds. He's been running the macro hedge fund 234 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 12: Key Square Group. 235 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 8: Listen. 236 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 12: He's someone who has both feet firmly planted in Wall Street. 237 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 12: He's a known quantity on the street. He has international connections, 238 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 12: and he was also a big supporter of President Electrum 239 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 12: throughout the campaign and so speaks to those issues that 240 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 12: Trump has said he cares about. 241 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: But he's not an unknown quantity. 242 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 12: And I think there was some concerns, is this process 243 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 12: dragged out over the last two weeks, that. 244 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 8: There might be a wild card thrown into the mix. 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 12: In the end, Trump came back to I think what 246 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 12: was his first instinct the guy who's been helping him 247 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 12: with his economic agenda all along during this campaign. 248 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: So what can we expect from Scott Bessett when it 249 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: comes to implementing the economic agenda that President Elect Trump 250 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: had talked about so much on Capitol Hill, particularly when 251 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: it comes to tariffs. 252 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 12: Well, so he is, you know, he's been a supporter 253 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 12: of tariffs, but you know the way. I think it's 254 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 12: the way he's talked about them that has eased some 255 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 12: of the concern and markets. You know, he talked about 256 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 12: he's talked about the sixty percent tariffs on China as 257 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 12: being kind of a maximalist position. So when you describe, 258 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 12: when you describe it that way, people start to see 259 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 12: a little bit more room for negotiation. 260 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 8: I think there's this. 261 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 12: Feeling that tariffs will be a tool for leverage over 262 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 12: other countries, whether they're allies or rivals like China, but 263 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 12: that there, you know, there is potentially room. 264 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 8: To make a deal here. 265 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 12: And that's so I think the market reaction. We've seen currencies, 266 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 12: a lot of currencies around the world gaining against the 267 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 12: dollar today. I think all of that is a reflection 268 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 12: that this is someone you can do business with. 269 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: Is this a reflection as well, Bill about potential limits 270 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: to Elon Musk's influence over President elect Trump. I mean, 271 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: he very publicly went for Howard Lutnick for this role. 272 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: Of course, Lutnick will ended up going to the Commerce Department. 273 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think, listen, Donald Trump, in the 274 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 12: end takes Donald Trump's advice more than anyone else's. I think, yeah, 275 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 12: there was a push not just by Elon muss but 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 12: some by some other Trump supporters to go with Lutnick. 277 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 12: He was kind of a late arrival, uh to the 278 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 12: the Treasury debate, and that kind of sparked this this 279 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 12: more almost two week delay really in uh in Trump 280 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 12: arriving at a candidate. But yeah, and I think, listen, 281 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 12: I think it also speaks to the importance of the 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 12: Treasury pick to a person like Donald Trump. I mean, 283 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 12: he's a New Yorker, He's been around Wall Street his 284 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 12: whole life. He did not want to make a choice 285 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 12: that resulted in a bad day for the markets. So 286 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 12: I think, you know, he was hearing from a lot 287 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 12: of people who said, you know, this guy has a 288 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 12: lot of credibility with us, and will uh you know, 289 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 12: I think that's that's the reaction the President elect has 290 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 12: seen today. But yes, I do think it you know, 291 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 12: in the end, it shows that Donald Trump really does 292 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 12: make his own decisions, particularly on these these appointments that 293 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 12: are so important to him. 294 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: So in our last minute bill, how can we expect 295 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: Scott Besson to lead TREY differently than Trump's first Treasury 296 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: Secretary Steve mnushin dead Well. 297 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 12: I think you know, you're going to see perhaps a 298 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 12: little less pushback by Scott Bessent than than you saw 299 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 12: by Steve Mnuchin. I think, you know, Besson is a 300 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 12: little more in tune with some of Trump's views. I 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 12: mean we talked about we talked about tariffs. Bessett has 302 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 12: proposed that there potentially be some kind of a shadow 303 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 12: fed chief and that would be, you know, basically someone 304 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 12: lurking behind Jay Powell for the rest of his I 305 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 12: think a year and a half. 306 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 8: Term in office. 307 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 12: And remember Steve Manuchin was a big backer of Powell 308 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 12: during Trump's first term and that's something that I think 309 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 12: President Elect Trump came to regret eventually. 310 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 8: So I think we'll see. 311 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 12: I think we'll see bestt trying to find someone for 312 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 12: that post who was perhaps more in line with President 313 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 12: elect Trump's use. 314 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break, your morning podcast on the 315 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 316 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 317 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 318 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 319 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: am Wall Street Time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 320 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to one in Washington, 321 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious 322 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: XM Channel one twenty one. 323 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app 324 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: now with Apple CarPlay and Android auto interfaces. 325 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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