WEBVTT - Draft Show: Potential Positions Of Interest 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:11.680 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys, your 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.400 war room for insider news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.560 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand. The 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:23.800 Dallas Cowboys like Byron Joe and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:29.160 David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well. Once again, we 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:34.400 are back to begin another journey, the Draft Show, the 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:39.839 show that's here to investigate and educate. And with that, 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.839 I'm Brian brought us with my scouts Dane Brugler from 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:51.320 CBS Sports and also Dallas Cowboys dot Com. He's in 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:56.000 the Villa Draft Extra right there after after a little 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.480 bit of difficulty too, So absolutely you were able to 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.240 make it for the debut, sir, apologize for that, but 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.560 glad we're getting getting going. We're over just over one 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.480 hundred days, which seems like a lot of time, but 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.160 really we got a lot to do, a lot to 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.760 get to. Also want to introduce h David Hellman, who's 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.720 going to come along with us again on this journey. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.160 Tiny Jim. We've got one hundred days or so to 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.000 the draft, but given the way that Cowboys season win 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.280 feels like we've been waiting for this to start for 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.040 about one hundred days. Yeah, I think that's where the uh. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.199 I think that's where once the the we were cheering 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.840 for chaos, we got chaos. We didn't get any wins 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.520 in the chaos, and that's the that's the problem. So, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.840 as Jerry Jones said, though you deserve this pick, and uh, 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.280 you know, we'll be focusing a lot on the Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.880 We've also got, like I say, this show's for the 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.800 fans as well, and again we want to educate you 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.920 and who these players are, give you an idea. We 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.080 have a lot of folks on this show that are 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.760 listening to the show that aren't cowboy fans, so we 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.200 hope that you have some interaction with us as well. 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.840 We're gonna give you opportunities to do that. Eight eight 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.680 eight eight five five two two ninety seven's the phone number. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.440 You'll probably see it on the screen. Kent Garrison, the 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.680 executive producer of the show, has got that all set 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.400 up for us. We're gonna take calls and we're also 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.120 going to do a staple that the Great Ed k 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.680 Hill started three years ago with Twitter on the twenty 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.480 So we're gonna do all those things Dave's gonna handle that, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.639 and we're gonna The way to get in on that 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.520 is at the Draft show. That's where your questions need 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.560 to be submitted. If you want to follow David Hellman 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.120 or DP Brugler, that's great too, feel free, but if 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.120 you want your question to be answered, make sure you're 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.800 following at the Draft show and submit it there. So, gentlemen, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.960 I'm gonna get right into this. Yeah, I'm gonna make 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.679 this happen. And Dave, you're starting to do some work 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.920 with me on watching some tape. Dane has been at 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.360 this for the majority of the year. I'm about one 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.480 hundred players in my self. Once, like I say, the 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.959 season started going south, I said, better spending my time 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.079 doing something that was going to mean better things down 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.480 the road. UM. I want to look at though, these 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.280 position groups staying and I'll start with you. And as 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.840 you've dove into this draft is you're full on it. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.520 The position groups that maybe might have the most depth. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.000 And I'm not talking about what the Cowboys minding. I'm 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.600 just saying from a from a standpoint of the guys 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.919 you've seen, where do you see Maybe I don't want 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.400 to use the word value but where is there some 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.000 depth at these positions? So as we get started, we 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.440 can focus on those positions, and we're seeing a lot 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.080 of underclassmen come out, which is n's what you said about. Yeah, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.000 we're almost to one hundred and we still have three 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.880 days until the deadline. Monday is the deadline for these juniors, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.320 and we still have a few guys to hear from 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.880 the Alabama guys. But looking at defensive tackle, to me, 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.320 going in this is the deepest position. We're gonna have 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.480 more defensive tackles drafted top fifty than likely any other position. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.400 You're looking at it at the top with guys like 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.640 a Shawan Robinson, Kim Dchi from Mole miss who is 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.960 a top ten talent in class, might not be a 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.840 top ten football player, so he's gonna be interesting to watch. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.360 Andrew Billings, the Baylor kids. You're on Reid, I mean 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.400 you can go on and on Austin Johnson. I know, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.359 you really like, there's so many players in this draft 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.159 at the defensive tackle position, so it's a really interesting spot. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.000 And then quarterback, you know we don't have that. We 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.880 don't have a Jameis Winston this year. We don't have 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.479 a Marcus Mariotte. If those two were in this draft, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.160 I think they would go one and two. Okay, but 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.160 that doesn't mean there's not a talent a quarterback, right, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.120 And there's a couple of guys at the top. I'm intriguing, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.000 guys like Jared Goff Carson Wentz a personal favorite of mine, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.160 so him live at the last week YESS Championship. He 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.800 was impressive and the Cowboys will get a chance to 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:48.960 coach him the Senior Bowl coming up. Yeah, and that's 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.799 as good exposure as you could possibly have to a quarterback, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.520 especially one from the FCS level. So the Cowboys have 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.839 a leg up there. But then also in the middle 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.240 later rounds, we could see over a dozen quarterbacks draft 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.280 this year. We were earlier, guys like Dak prescott Um, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.280 you know, Jeff Driscoll, Kevin Hoak, And there's a lot 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.159 of these quarterbacks that might not be starters, but good 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.320 death guys you can find in the middle late rounds. Yeah. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.040 How about though, Dave. You know, Dane brought up and 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.920 I agree with him about these defensive tackles. That's when 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.680 you say that, No, I know it. It's a serious 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.960 group of defensive tackles. Now, I'm gonna shift it. I hear, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.800 I might say, well, it's we'll not have a cowboy 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.960 influence here, but I'll give you a cowboy influence. Yeah, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.000 I mean, how can you not think about the Cowboys 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.960 when you hear that? Though, I mean, Dane gave you 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.039 a lot of names that are potential one techniques, right, Yeah, 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.440 but the history of the Cowboys say, this team refuses 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.800 to draft a defensive tackle, like they just won't do it. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.280 So I'm I'm very intrigued to hear that. I mean, 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.240 we've always I mean, they've got their three. Even if 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.800 you're disappointed with what Tyrone Crawford did with the bumb 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.600 shoulder this year. I mean they gave him seven eight 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.200 million dollars a year. He's your three going forward. Terrell 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.240 McLean's still here for another year. Trust him, though you 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.120 can't know. I'm just I'm just kind of set. But 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.240 you know, we're trying to got me and then a 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.560 whole lot of I don't know, Nick Nick Aiden's a 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.200 free agent. Don't feel particularly good about any of the 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.520 guys that they brought in in that situation. But like 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.280 I said, I mean, they didn't want Sharif Floyd they 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.240 didn't want. Well, they might have drafted Carl Davis last year, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.599 but he got taken off their board right at the death. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.679 But they just as badly as we've talked about defensive 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.039 tackle and as many fans have wanted a defensive tacks 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.640 in the last three or four years, yeah, they won't 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.480 do it, especially at one technique, which leads me, you know, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.839 I'm just having a hard time believing that the Cowboys 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.520 are going to take a defensive tackle with a top 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.599 fifty pick. Yeah, there's not one. You there's not one 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.880 of those guys you would take it at four. No, no, not. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.720 But see that's what I'm saying though. That's where I'm 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.920 starting to say, now if you if you want to 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.360 And the second position that Dane brought up was quarterbacks. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.159 So we'll get to the quarterback part of it though, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.080 but these one time at thirty four, I think, Dane 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.560 and correct me if I'm wrong. Just looking at the 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.240 way some of these grouping ships set up. Again, if 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.640 you want a receiver, and we didn't, we reladn't touch 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.040 into receivers, A lot of a lot of people are talking, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.720 oh that could the Cowboys go for receiver, though at 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.880 thirty four you're gonna have a decision to have to 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.760 make about potentially maybe a corner, maybe a receiver, but 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.880 the defensive tackle that one technique might be the best 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.840 value for if you're a Cowboy fan. That's right in 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.680 the range that Malcolm Brown went last year, and he's 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.440 having a pretty strong rookie season for the Patriots, if 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:35.520 I recall. Sure, So, yeah, I mean I think that 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.080 would be great. I think there's a lot of people 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.040 listening who think that would be great. I mean, if 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.120 you can think back to the past two or three drafts. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.680 But the track record makes me dubious that it would happen. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.240 Might depend on who goes for you know, if they 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.400 get maybe they want a playmaker at four, and then 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.480 they'll feel a lot better about taking a one technique 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.640 at thirty four, Right, So you know with the fourth pick, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.280 it's not hard. Yeah, you put there's four your four 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.960 best players in this draft on your board, You're guaranteed 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:02.880 to get one of them, absolutely, And that's what you 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.800 should be excited about it. That's what you look like, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:07.840 that's what you look at at the fourth pick, and 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.800 then you know that's when Thursday's over, you come back 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.920 on Friday. You have the third pick in the second 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.160 round as of right now, Um, and if an Austin 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.760 Johnson from Penn State, I'm liking what he's saying right now, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.119 I'm liking Austin Johnson a lot. We turned we wanted 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.360 to watch Carl NASSEIV the other night, right and you 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.840 and you totally just gave up on Carl Nason and 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.640 was just watching Austin Johnson, Like, yes, this guy is 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.600 a monster, but he was the type of guy though 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.559 that And what did you see though from from Austin Johnson, Like, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.440 I mean, you don't normally see from the one technique 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.000 out here a guy getting off blocks and getting into 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.720 the backfield, which, honestly, I think Nick Hayden is an 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.760 underrated player for what he is. That's fair, for what 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.760 he is that which is not. He doesn't like me 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.959 too much, you know he doesn't. But he's a He's 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.160 not a playmaker, but he does his job. I don't 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.880 think he deserves deserves half the flack that he gets 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.959 from people, especially I mean, he's not an expensive guy. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.520 He's a role player type of guy. All of that said, 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.080 I mean this look that would be like a clear 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.200 upgrade if you had two defensive tackles, can't you capable 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.439 of doing a little bit more than just taking up space? 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.520 Which is kind of what Nica and with Austin Johnson. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.720 The production matches the tape. I mean, he had seventy 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.080 eight tackles this year, which is outstanding for a one technique. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.400 A guy that's supposed to clog the middle open things 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.240 up for the rest of the defense. And so I 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.959 think you have a mix of power, quickness awareness. My 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.880 only question is is he going to be there at 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.040 thirty four? Sure? I mean, he's such a fair talented player, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:33.920 and he will be at the Senior Bowl, right and 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.080 there's a good chance of cowboys will be coaching him. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.360 So I think we could be in a position where 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.480 he's gonna end up going first round. But if he's 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.079 there at thirty four, that's a no brainer to me. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.199 That's a hijack. I mean, I know you good. It 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.920 seems like the Senior Bowl roster is absolutely loaded compared 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.840 to even is. I mean, like last year, a couple 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.319 of years ago, it was there were a lot of 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.640 guys there. I've like last year, I just remember being 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.080 about Oh, I'm stoked. But I remember last year feeling 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.480 kind of underwhelmed the about the talent on hand, not 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.719 that there weren't good players there, but two years ago 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.040 we got the Za, the Zack Moreack Martin and Donald matchup. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.199 But I mean last like last year, and I mean, granted, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.199 he's been a good player for the Packers, but like 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.360 Quinton Rollins was a guy that we were talking a 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:17.240 lot about, Whereas this year you got like four real 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:22.520 deal quarterback prospects. Austin Johnson, Yeah, uh, Carson Wentz like 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.080 there's I mean, there's yeah, you guys gotta be a league. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.000 I mean, I'd say there's probably what like six to 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.160 ten first round caliber players and at the Senior Bowl. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.599 And maybe the biggest thing I'm worried about is we 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.480 still have a week to go, and this is where 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.400 we see some guys out. Yeah. I reported last week 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.960 Connor Cook declined his invitation right on that you won't 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.120 be in Mobile. So I am worried about. We're gonna 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.480 see some roster fluctuation here in the next week. Hopefully, 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.160 you know, we don't take too much of a hit 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.280 to the Senior Bowl roster, because you're right it's absolutely 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.280 load and I think the name to watch it's gonna 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.839 be a hot name in mobiles. Noah Spense. Yeah, former 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.400 Ohio state pass rusher, Eastern Kentucky. He has his baggage. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.280 But I've done a lot of work on this kid, 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.440 you know, off the field and on the field. People 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.680 still still talk really highly about so and and Dane's 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.719 giving you a little preview next week when we have 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.000 the draft show on Friday, We're gonna get full on 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.640 into going through the roster, breaking down both teams tell 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.079 you who you need to look at. So stay tuned 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.720 for that next week though, want to get into Okay, 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.800 you've talked a little bit, how about this opening a 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.079 show with one techniques? That's Isn't that crazy? That's what? 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.400 But that's good though, because that's yeah, that's that's the 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.240 draft show we're gonna cover. We're talking about We're not 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.240 gonna go right to quarterbacks. We'll talk about one techniques. Yeah, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.080 I would give me here one technique. Let me let 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.880 me ask you though about a lot of people have 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.800 talked about Dane. These receivers, and we'll get to the 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.520 quarterbacks too. I want to get you know, we'll go 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.559 plenty of times on three and a half months. Yeah, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.559 but that's the great. Yeah, but I just want to 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.240 get into though, these these wide receivers though a little 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.040 bit though, you know, and and and and where you know, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:56.520 usually it's one, two, three, maybe first round guys maybe 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.599 not so much of how you're thinking about in this 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.360 draft is it is it clearly tread Well, and then 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.280 it is everything else. I think tread Well is that 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.280 clear cut number one guy at the receiver and he's 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.600 the only guy I see as a lock first rounder, right, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.480 And there's a lot of talented players we could see 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.120 go in the back half around one. Corey Coleman from Baylor, 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:17.280 Michael Thomas, Ohio State, Josh Stockson Thomas, Ohio State. A 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.400 little bit though, yeah, and so we could see him 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.120 in the back half a round one, But wouldn't shock 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.160 me if they're both available at the early part of 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.160 round two as well. So this is a draft where 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.040 you can get some talented wide receivers at that thirty 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.160 fourth pick or that early second round. Will Fuller from 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.520 Notre Dame. Yeah, he'll run right past you. So there, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.560 you know, if we want to address the wide receiver position, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.920 Treadwell is going to be really appealing at the fourth pick. Yeah, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.520 we talk about we talk about it. Hold on. You 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.880 know last year Maury Cooper goes top five, right, Is 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.760 he as good as a Maray Cooper? No, but he's different. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.720 He's not that type of receiver. I think he's better 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.520 than Kevin White. Was there. You go, who was a 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.679 seventh pick last year? You go, um, And you know 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.240 people want to compare him to the draft two years 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:04.360 ago with Sammy Watkins, Michael Evans, Beckham. You know that 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.079 draft class that was his outstanding for wide receivers. You know, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.840 you have to look at this guy on his zone 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.760 and in this draft he's worth that fourth pick. You 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.959 can make an argument he's a fourth best player and 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.160 he's I think the biggest argument might be, is he 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.280 too similar to Dez Bryant, because that's where you know, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.640 you compare their strength, and they're, you know, so similar 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.720 with the way they attacked the ball, their ball skills, 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.719 just their physical strength and treadwall. It doesn't even turn 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.480 twenty one until June. He's just a very he's a 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.400 young pup, but he's gonna come in and contribute right 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.480 away as both a blocker and as his running block. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.440 He's outstanding. He's soft spoken off the field. On the field, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.760 I loved that more than I liked any of the 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.320 catches he made. Yeah, he just dominates people. What did 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.160 you like that Dane said about his personality. I believe 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.880 the exact quote Dane used was, he's Dez Bryant with 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.319 an off switch. Yeah, so explain that a little bit there, Scout. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.400 He's uh, you see him on the field, you see 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.319 him on tape. Yeah, he's just he plays like des Bryant. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.360 He plays with that absolutely, that fearlessness play. Yeah, it 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.960 is the way they attack the ball. And they don't 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.160 neither have that blazing speed. They're not gonna run the 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.360 four in a four to three in the forty yard dash, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.680 but it doesn't matter if they're covered because they're still 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.160 open right the way they can attack the ball. But 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.480 off the field, he's very respectful. Uh, he's a very 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.080 soft spoken kid. He's a very family oriented kid. He 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.240 has a young daughter. Um, So everything I you know 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:23.960 I've heard about him and then I've talked to coaches 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.760 about him is he's a very very reserved personality field. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.160 So I think that's where that off on switch right, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.120 That's that's good insight. Though you watch that tape and 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.920 you went nuts. Your goal, both of you. What I 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.400 want from you over the next three and a half 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.840 months is to give me the talk me out of it, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.280 because that's where I'm at right I'm not sure I 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.000 want you to pushing it all in right now, I'm 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.080 all in. I like, I like Miles Jack and I'm 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.640 I'm that's another one. I talk. I'm being hyperbolic right now, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.360 like I'm kidding around sort of, But no, you're not. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.240 He's a monster, He's a beast. He makes the team 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:00.640 immediately better. He secures your passing game. I mean, and hey, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.640 whether you draft a quarterback, sign a quarterback, whether Romo 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.760 plays for two more years or five more years, as 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.080 happy as you are, that's about that huge security. Imagine 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.480 Tony's I mean, because that's you have a small window 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.920 with Tony Romo coming up. Oh sure you go get 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.600 that target, Go get that guy, forget forget Tony Romo. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.400 Imagine Kellen Moore or Colt McCoy or Johnny Manzell's reaction 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.320 if they're like, hey, you gotta go play quarterback because 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.840 Romo's out, But you got Dez in Lakwan. So let's 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.520 go get some first downs. Sure, soe me then on 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.960 is since we talked about some of the one techniques 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.640 at thirty four, though, sell me on a second round 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.560 receiver though at the top of it, and you talked 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.560 about Michael Thomas for a while, I would staying I 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.760 think he's a first I think he's gonna I think 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.960 he's definitely gonna be a guy that it's gonna go 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.040 off the board, you know, before the Cowboys get back 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.200 around in the second round. But give me a couple 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.360 of second round options though. If I don't. If I do, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.920 go okay, I go say a dude, go Miles Jack 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.600 in the first and then I turn aroun round and 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.040 hit somebody there at thirty four or the top of 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.600 the second round. If somebody's listening from one of those teams, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.480 it's uh, it's with us today. Let's say that treadwill 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.720 goes early, and then let's say Michael Thomas and Corey 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.120 Coleman both go in a later half of round one. 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.320 So you're looking at Josh Dackson to tcu RD, who 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.080 you know, unfortunately heard his risk, but he plans on 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.440 playing in mobile we'll see about that a Senior Bowl. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.560 I'm glad he's going though, by the way, I'm glad 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.440 he's gonna be there. Absolutely, he has a lot to prove. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.520 I mean, you look at a TCU offense, limited route tree, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.400 he still has a lot to prove. One of my 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.040 favorite guys this year Farrell Cooper out of South Carolina. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.920 Now we're talking, this is to me this year's version 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.200 of a Randall Cobb. Yeah. A versatile athlete can beat 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.600 you in a lot of ways. Uh. He took a 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.960 lot of direct snaps at South Carolina. But he's also 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.920 a very reliable wide receiver with his hands as route 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.800 running way, he can just catch and go. Will Fuller 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.920 mentioned him, he's he's this year's Devin Smith. That is 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.280 deep threat. Yeah, is will is a Will Fuller though 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.640 the take the yeah, like well, he's like to talk 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.600 about take the top off the defense. Nate Newton loves 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.720 to talk about, give me that guy. It takes to 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.000 is will Fuller. That guy he is absolutely five. He's 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.680 five to eleven six, so he's almost six foot tall. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.119 He's not you don't you watch Notre Dame games. Do 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.000 you think he's a small guy? He's he's a he's 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.960 a six foot guy. He's a little lean, but he 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.920 has some muscle on him. Yeah. The biggest worry with 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.639 will Fuller is just Philadelphia kid. Yeah, exactly, got some 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.720 toughness to him. Just catching the football. I mean, he'll 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.800 make some tremendous catch you go, but then some easy 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.720 ones he drops. He just you don't want to see 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.280 that type of drop rate for a talented receiver that 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.800 you're talking about the early second round range. But he 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.040 can stretch the field and even if he's not getting 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.520 the ball, he's distracting that secondary because of his ability 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.000 to stretch the field take the top off a defense. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.560 So defenders, defensive coordinators, they have to worry about him. Well, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.639 let me let me ask you guys another question though 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.520 about that and Dave talk about a little bit about 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:58.000 the Cowboys this wide receiver situation. You obviously want to draft, Yeah, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.159 to make a high, high selection on a receiver you 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.120 just don't feel good about Well and behind Bryan, I think, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.199 and that's I think what makes Treadwell really interesting from 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.760 the Cowboys perspective is I think he's an immediate upgrade 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.280 over the guys that you have behind Dez Bryant. Yeah, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:14.879 I mean, I don't think you could argue that, and 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.080 but I think the reason it creates conversation with people 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.440 is because do you really need it? I mean, you 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.159 got Dez, you got one of the top five or 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.480 six receivers in the league, and he's under contract for 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.800 four or five more years. You got Terrence Williams, who 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.680 obviously inconsistent, obviously disappointing when des was hurt this year, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.600 but has shown that pension to make big plays, especially 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.199 when he's got Dez with him. And then you've got 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.680 Cole Beasley, who first of all signed to a decent 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.720 sized contract and second of all, fills a very specific 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.480 role that has proven to be successful when Tony Romo's 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.760 in the game. So I totally get where people are 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.159 coming from when they say, you know, we don't the 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.600 Cowboys don't need a wide receiver. I get that. I 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.040 also get how talented Treadwell is, how much he would 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.479 bring to your offense. And when you're up there at 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.280 the top of the raft, I didn't think you pass 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.360