WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Tom Vercucci (06-08-20) 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.280 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's hour two Dan 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.280 and the Dan nets Stan Patrick Show. Hope you had 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.080 a great weekend. Phone calls are welcome, as we always 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:13.640 do every Monday, best and words of the weekend, what 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.720 you saw that you liked, you didn't like, and you 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:17.640 can dial us up eight seven to seven three. DP 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.680 show email Addressdpatdanpatrick dot Com. Twitter handles that DP show. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.440 Say good morning to chat Row. 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And here we are headed into a new 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:01.080 week with some old issues here they're starting to surface 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.840 and Colin Kaepernick his role in all of this, and 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.200 Mark Maski of the Washington Post had a column where 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.360 he talked about that there feels like there's growing sentiment 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.800 that maybe Colin Kaepernick will get an opportunity to come 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.399 in and play a quarterback for somebody. I don't see 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.399 that happening because nobody's handing the keys over to him 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.399 to be the starting quarterback, and that's what he would want. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.160 I want to be the starting quarterback. I should have 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.640 been given a chance to be a starting quarterback. If 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.480 you're bringing me in, it feels like it's a little 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.760 bit of token ism here. Hey, look, we got you 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.720 a job, Now go away. But the protest are going 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.800 to continue, and nobody's heard from Colin Kaepernick. He doesn't 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.360 say much. The last that I heard he was writing 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.120 a book. But I haven't heard much from him. But 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.960 I do know that the commissioner did not mention Colin 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.400 Kaepernick's name. Mc levin. Did you check and see is 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:02.080 the commissioner allowed to say Alan Kaepernick's name after that 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.800 collusion lawsuit? Wow? I don't know. I'll look up and 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.920 see if there's anything written on it. And if you'd 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.840 like to separate sports and politics, this hasn't been your week, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.960 or your month or your year, and you know it's 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.880 it's about twenty twenty, a year like no other in 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.360 American history. And maybe sports has always been political, especially 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.000 when it comes to race, but now it's unavoidable because 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.799 of social media. Players have a platform and it's right 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.920 on their phone. You can tweet, you can do a video. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:36.239 They've been front and center opinions actions. For the most part, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.919 athletes lives are open books, and that means sometimes they're 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.880 expected to weigh in on matters that go beyond playing 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.480 on a basketball court, football field, baseball field. Michael Jordan 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.840 once famously refused to answer a political question because quote 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.520 Republicans by sneakers too. Jordan came out passionately on the 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.760 topic of racial equality this week. He's donating one hundred 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:03.400 million dollars over the next ten years. Now. Maybe Jordan 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.880 would not have been comfortable saying something like that during 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.560 his playing days, but times have changed. We're seeing just 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.280 how much, you know, as athletes across their sports let 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.800 their voices be heard. Mccleven, you got a pull question 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.240 for me today. Yeah, we ranked the commissioners. He's your 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.200 favorite commissioner and okay, so Adam Silver NBA wins. But 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:28.160 can you guess who is last? I'm going to say 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.240 Rob Manfred? Yeah, major League base is that is that 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.800 a currency bias because they can't get it together. Well, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.520 if we were announcing today baseball's coming back in mid July, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.320 Rob Manfred wouldn't be last on the list. We'll talk 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.200 to Tom Berducci covers this sport. He'll join us coming 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.920 up here in a little bit. Because I didn't hear 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.000 anything from baseball over the weekend, and as I said before, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.680 with the NBA, when I don't hear something from you, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.480 I'm more optimistic. When I do hear and these plans 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.200 get leaked, then we're playing a game in the media, 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.560 nobody's saying anything. That's a good thing in my opinion. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.840 I mentioned this at the end of last hour. We 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.720 were talking about quarterbacks and big arms. You gotta have 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.800 a big arm in there, and I said, no one 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:15.400 ever said anything about Russell Wilson's arm. Never never heard it. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.400 Maybe when he was coming out of Wisconsin they talked about, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.039 you know, does he have a strong enough arm? Paully 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.400 check and see what his draft bio is. I have that, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.240 of course, Okay, I'm sure you do. But you know, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.680 we get caught up in you got a big arm here, 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.520 all right? Because Colin Kaepernick has a big arm. That 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.640 doesn't mean he's going to get employed. That doesn't mean 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.080 he was a great quarterback. At times, he was a 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:42.039 great quarterback. Twenty nineteen, most touchdown passes that traveled more 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:47.280 than twenty yards in the air downfield. Patrick Mahomes led 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.600 with twelve, which you would expect. Second on the list, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.280 Russell Wilson Junior the third, and then it's Aaron Rodgers. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.279 Now this based on how far downfield the ball was thrown. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.320 It's not a five yarder turned into a sixty five yarder. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:06.320 These were down the field throws. Yeah, Pull Wilson does 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.880 not have the same velocity as say a Brandon Whedon, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.000 but the ball comes out with enough velocity be an 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.239 NFL starter. That's a direct quote right before the NFL draft. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.640 He's no Brandon Whedon, Dan, No, he's not. I've been 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.119 telling you that for years. Brandon Whedon tall first round pick. Yeah, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.600 it's like I did I got a scripted that. Yeah, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:30.520 but could Brandon Whedon play the position? Another baseball guy? Right? 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.760 I mean yeah? Through a ninety nine hour mile p 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.520 power fastball. Yeah, all right, some phone calls here. Mike 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.560 in Los Angeles. Good morning, Mike, What do you have 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.279 for me today? Hey? Dan, good morning. I don't really 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.080 have a best probably just a lot of worse, you know, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:49.080 with all the controversy and everything going on. But I 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.360 was told this, and I'm sure you can probably verify 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.839 years ago the players weren't even out during the anthem, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.800 so maybe they might have to be something like that, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:02.760 you know, where you keep the anthem just for the 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.200 fans and stuff. I don't think that the players will 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.280 allow that to happen, but Mike, I think you're right 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.960 that they'd have the anthem, Like the anthem wasn't a 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.960 big deal, and then all of a sudden it became 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.800 it was a showcase because somebody was going to sing it, 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.400 or you'd have the flyover, we'd be able to show 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.120 off the military. I don't remember when I was growing 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.800 up that the anthem was a big deal where I'd go, oh, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.120 this is a big ceremony here, or everybody stops during 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.839 the anthem. But that was when I was younger. But 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.720 now it is a big deal. Yeah mc clove. I 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.880 still don't think it's on TV though until except for 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.200 the Super Bowl. Like so it's it's a big deal, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.840 but it's not so ingrained in the game like when 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.800 I we were kids, it was, Yeah, I was I 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.640 went to games all the time. Never saw it, never 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.000 saw the players out there. I was trying to remember 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.120 when I was growing up and I'd watched the NFL, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:59.839 and I couldn't remember the anthem. I couldn't remember players 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.920 lined up. I still go back to and you know, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.880 we would have Whitney Houston at the Super Bowl. What 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:12.080 was that twenty eight, twenty nine years ago? That was 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.040 one of the biggest moments I remember with the anthem 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.040 that was powerful in Tampa and you had the flyover. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.240 I thought it was the best rendition of the anthem 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.560 that I'd ever heard, but it became more of a ceremony. Yeah, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.920 PAULI I went back to when Kaepernick thing just started, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.400 and it happened in a preseason game or an early 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.000 season game, a preseason game. Shit, yeah, and a reporter 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:39.360 in the skybox noticed Kaepernick down in the field. Traditionally, 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.120 in same article had talked to a bunch of different networks. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.080 They do not show the anthem being played in most 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.160 NFL games, unless there's some type of delay or ghosts later, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.200 but usually it's scheduled. Occasionally, in playoff games they will 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.640 show the anthem and pan across the players, but that's 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.880 a network by network decision. And then of course in 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.480 the Super Bowl they do, but generally almost exclusively NFL 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:03.040 games regular season show in broadcast the nationaland Maya in 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:08.120 Texas joins us Amyah, Hello, how are you good? Good? 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.920 What's on your mind today? Well, we were all sitting 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.240 around talking about with an nfall. NFL finally gets started 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:20.680 and the national anthem goes on. We personally don't feelkneeling 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.440 is a good way to protest this, but we're hoping 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.160 maybe instead they could have an eight minute, forty six 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:33.800 second silence time to recognize what's going on right now, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.720 the death of George Floyd, where the officer had his kneel, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.440 had his knee on his neck for that amount of time. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.360 Thank you, Maya. I understand if you look at this 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.720 through the eyes or the optics of the president. You know, 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.280 the President of the United States had a tweet late 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:55.440 last night saying could it be even remotely possible that 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.440 In Roger Goodell's rather interesting statement, of peace and reconciliation. 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.080 He was intimating that he would now be okay for 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.240 the players to kneel or not to stand for the 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:12.000 national anthem, thereby disrespecting our country and our flag. If 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:16.600 you have these different viewpoints here, then this isn't going away. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.920 I don't think we're going to ever be in agreement 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:24.360 of what it means. But you're gonna look at the anthem, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.360 You're gonna look at the flag, and you're going to 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.920 see something different than somebody else will. Maybe more people 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.600 will at least have open eyes and ears to it 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.000 to just understand. And that's why I always go back 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:41.560 to this. Colin Kaepernick risked his career for this, and 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.160 because of that. You know, when I first saw it, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.080 I was disappointed. I was like, oh, he's kneeling during 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.360 the anthem, and I wondered what the fallout was going 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.320 to be. And then once you hear what he was 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.120 protesting about, he was using the moment to be on 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.840 the biggest stage to have people then ask questions, why 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.040 are you kneeling? Then he got a chance to talk 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:09.320 about police brutality and social injustice. But until then I 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.600 was looking at this narrow minded and going, oh, you 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.560 can't be kneeling, And then when you realize that it's 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.240 not about the anthem and disrespecting the flag as much 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.000 as he wants you, to understand, what is it about 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.280 that flag? And why is that flag different for me 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.360 than it is for you? And then that's where I 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.520 was trying to understand that. And I've since come around 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:38.480 and I completely understand why it's so important and continues 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.120 to be so important. But it's going to be polarizing. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.599 It's going to be politicized. It's going to be polarizing. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:49.000 I understand it, even having some trepidation bringing it up today. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.160 I don't have the answers here, but we do want 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.120 to explore, We want to ask, We want to move 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.360 forward with this. What's the NFL going to do? These 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.640 are all legiti him in questions. What is the commissioner 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.280 going to do? What are the individual owners going to do? 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.080 You're going to have this in an election year and 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.600 this president is going to continue to tweet about this. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.079 He feels strongly about it, his fan base feels strongly 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.679 about it, and I understand that that it's not going 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.680 to go away. Does the commissioner stay with this? Do 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.480 the owners fall in line with the commissioners? Do the 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.200 owners fall in line with the President of the United States. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.840 Drew Brees, I thought took a pretty courageous stance when 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.640 he responded to the President saying, this is not about 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:41.000 the flag. I don't know what Drew Brees is going 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.520 to do on the sidelines this year, because you're going 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:50.720 to see players kneeling. Will you see white players kneeling? 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.760 Will you see the white stars kneeling? Is JJ Watt 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.960 going to? Is Tom Brady going to? Is Ben Roethlisberger 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.679 going to? That's where it goes. It takes another step. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.920 Now you might say, what's in what direction does that take? 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.800 It's going to take another step because the black athlete 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.400 has said, we need the white stars to be on 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.480 our sides and understand this, and we're going to find out. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.520 You know, Tom Brady has spoken about this, JJ Watt 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.600 has spoken about this. Now Drew Brees has apologized for 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.160 his take on it, and now we're going to find 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.440 out what's going to happen on the sidelines here in 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.840 a few months. But we have three months before that happens. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.400 Where are we in three months with this topic? Is 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.680 there a way for the NFL to say to its players, 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:43.400 how do we let you have something public so you 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.680 still get that platform. You know, one thing that would 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.240 help is if the NFL is going to stay with you, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.560 true to its words, and you know, still be invested 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.680 in this because we move on so quickly. And if 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.760 I'm an African American player in the NFL, I just 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.880 want to make sure I still have the focus your attention, 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.960 the commissioner as we move into the season and when 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.800 this season starts, and is there a way that you 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.120 can do this where we're going to do it this 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.400 upcoming season and then we've seen enough progress and we 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.760 won't do this again. If I'm the commissioner, that would 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:25.400 be my goal. Let's recognize it, let's listen, let's watch, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.880 let's join arms. Now, let's move on and maybe you 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.440 move past this. But it's going to be front and 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.040 center and it's not going to be pretty. It's going 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.439 to be uncomfortable. Eight seven seven three DP show email 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.640 Addressdpatdanpatrick dot com, Greg and Illinois Back. Hi Greg, What 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.960 do you have for me today? Hey? Dan? Happy Monday 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.000 to you and the boys. Best worst than a question 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.920 for you? Best is Drew Bees's response to the President. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.120 I think, as you said, he's taking time to listen 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.600 and to educate himself, and I feel like he's doing that. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.680 My worst is I was so bored this week and 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.000 actually read the United States Flag Code, and we often 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.120 disrespect the flag based on that. So all of this 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.960 can kind of reflect on that. But my question for 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.800 you has to do with the NFL's history of marginalizing 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.960 mediocre players ideas. I'm wondering if you think Goodell makes 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.720 these comments if the star players aren't the ones speaking out. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:27.320 Thanks man, all right, I'm not sure I followed that, Yeah, Paul, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.160 I think he was asking at the end, does Goodell 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.360 make his statement if the players didn't put out the 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.240 video of the day before. Oh. I do think that 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.080 the NFL reacted absolutely. I don't think the NFL ever acts. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:41.920 They react absolutely, And I think that the commissioner probably 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.480 saw what Drew Brees said and read what he said, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.760 and then thought that maybe it's okay to put out 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.120 a video. And because you had a rogue employee inside 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.480 the NFL who put out this video that's got twenty 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.480 million views with all of the star players there, I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.240 think the commissioner looked at it and went, oh, all right, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.040 let me be along for the ride here. But I 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.240 don't think the NFL acts as much as they react, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.480 And I think they're looking at what is going to 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.400 be good for business down the road, What is going 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:19.160 to be good for business. Let's see, McLevin, you found 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.880 something of Forbes magazine on why the commissioner may not 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.080 have said Colin Kaepernick's name in his video. Legality could 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.800 have played a role here. While Kaepernick and the league 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.920 settled the collusion lawsuit early last year, it remains to 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.800 be seen whether the former Super Bowl quarterback can take 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.040 further action against the NFL. This could be a reason 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.520 why Goodell failed to mention the former NFL or in 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.480 his statement. That theory is being floated about. However, the 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.080 more likely scenario is that Goodell maintained his previous stance 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:55.480 that Kaepernick is unemployed strictly for football reasons. Yeah. I 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.960 got the feeling when he didn't mention Kaepernick that this 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:03.080 had something to do with the collusion lawsuit. And you know, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.440 because Kaepernick can reopen this, you know, the NFL came 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:11.120 out and apologized. The former VP of Communications, Joe Lockhart, 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:16.240 came out and apologized said we made a mistake. If 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:21.360 I'm Colin Kaepernick's attorney, I'm like, well, wall him in here, Hey, hey, Cap, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.320 come here. I think we get something. And I know 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.680 that people talked about fifty or sixty million dollars that 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.480 he got. I was told he got nowhere near that, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.320 that it was probably less than five million dollars. But 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.320 I don't know. You know, a victory is a victory. 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.400 You can have a financial victory and then you have 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.400 a victory. And you know, Colin Kaepernick is probably taking 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:46.040 a victory lap here even though he's not probably not 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.720 going to get a job. All Right, we'll take a break. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.800 More phone calls coming up, and uh, we'll talk to 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.040 Tom Berducci. Are we going to have baseball this year? 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.360 Eighteen after the hour, Take a break back after this 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.680 in the Damn Pad Show. Thanks for listening to The 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.280 Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.720 every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.840 nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.040 for The Danpatrick Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, or 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.280 stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:21.480 searching FSR. More phone calls coming up, messed and worst 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.800 of the weekend. We'll give you hours each seven seven 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.959 three DP show email ADDRESSDP at Danpatrick dot com. So 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.400 we've updated you on the NFL situation. The NBA looks 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.679 like it's full speed ahead by the end of July. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.840 Hockey's coming back, Golf's coming back. Everybody's coming back, except 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.720 for Major League Baseball, And of course that means we 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:46.000 have Tom Berducci on tom When is baseball coming back? 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.280 I'd love to just tell you July. Dan. I've been 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.400 thinking that all along, purely out of optimism, because right 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.320 now the rhetoric is terrible. Both sides are really dug in. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.560 If you're just taking the temperature of negotiations, there's no 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.600 agreement here. But I still believed that the downside to 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.400 not playing baseball, especially as you mentioned all these other 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.919 sports are up and running, is so enormous. That's the 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.400 biggest motivator to get a deal done. So I'm still optimistic. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.720 It doesn't look like the fourth of July the way 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.920 owners originally wanted, but I think somewhere along the lines 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.159 of sixty to seventy games, maybe beat by the beginning 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.639 of August. But the NBA has the luxury of all 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.200 being self quarantined in Orlando. You have your basketball courts there, 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.919 you have the facilities, you'll have testing available. You know, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.800 baseball is still we're not quite sure. Are they going 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.800 to be in Arizona and Florida Arizona or their home 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.040 parks here? Are you going to play East Coast versus 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.320 East coach Like, there's a lot that really has to 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.639 be sorted out here. And then you have the money 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.520 aspect here. What is front and center the biggest hurdle 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.919 before we have baseball. It's the money, pure and simple. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.640 I mean, this is like one of the little old 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.600 fashioned players owners labor disputes. And I think that's why 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.119 the downside is so big. Then that if there is 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.360 no baseball, it's not because there was an enormous concern 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.680 about the protocols and that the health issues. It's strictly 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.000 about money on the player's side. I can tell you this. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.760 The players now have found a reason to be galvanized 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.159 like I have not seen in years. This is not 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.440 about pensions or service time or some esoteric CBA issue, 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.639 purely about taking a pay cut. They understand it, they 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.720 can rally around it, and I think that's why that 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.119 they're dug in as far as where they play, you know, listen, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.239 I think they're a little bit of the benefit here 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.560 as opposed to the NBA. They're playing the games outside. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.920 From what we know about the spread of the virus, 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:45.320 it's a little less risky being outdoors. Where they play. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.560 It's looking like it's going to be in major league ballparks. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.280 You know, the state of Texas is saying you can 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.480 have fifty percent capacity. Some places are saying forget it. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.440 You're not going to count on anybody being in a ballpark. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.280 So it's a local issue in terms of who's going 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.520 to be there, But they are planning to mostly empty 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.200 ballparks major league stadiums. What will baseball look like when 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.880 it comes back? Listen. I I'm like a lot of people. 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.520 I think I'll take it anyway I can get it. 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:13.840 But when you think about the fact that they're putting 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.680 in thirty man rosters with fifteen man pitching staffs after 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.960 a three week spring training, I don't want to say 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.960 glorified spring training, but the games will be heavy in 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.639 pitching changes and less offense, which are two things we 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.399 don't want as fans, right I mean, we'll have to 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.200 take what we can get. But when baseball came back 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.680 in eighty one, remember that was the two month strike 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.119 they started in August, rosters remained to twenty five, So 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:43.040 baseball pretty much looked the same. Offense went slightly up 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.320 in the month of August of eighty one. But if 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.440 you're giving managers fifteen man pitching staffs, and starting pitchers 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.200 are not stretched out to pitch even their usual five 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.879 or six innings, you're looking at more pitching changes, less offense. 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.520 Does Jacob de gram win the say young with a 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:03.800 five and three record, I guess it depends on his eira, right. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.280 I mean, listen, we're not going to get a quote 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.480 unquote legitimate season. We're not going to get a quote 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.160 unquote legitimate champion. But if I can again go back 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.560 to eighty one, you had four teams earn a playoff spot. 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.640 Remember that was a split season year. Four teams got 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.000 into the playoffs by playing only fifty three games. There 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.960 was a world champion there. You had a playoff system, 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.119 all right. It wasn't the usual one sixty two and 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.720 everything we're traditionally used to, but it still worked. I mean, 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.080 I'll take it. And again, is there an asterisk? You know, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.040 maybe at least mentally there is. But somebody's gonna win 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:43.040 a cy young somebody's gonna be the MVP. Baseball had 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:47.600 such a golden opportunity here, like you could have monopolized summer. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.280 And I know that there's health issues, but really health 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.359 is not first and foremost here. I know Blake Snell 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.800 said this, it's always about money. It's going to be 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.800 about money. If I gave baseball a doue over through 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.480 this time two months ago, I give the commissioner and 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.760 Tony Clark, the head of the players Association, a do over, 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.840 what would you do over? Well, I think you start 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:17.040 the negotiations from a closer advantage point because remember owners 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.760 first came in and floated the idea of a revenue 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.440 sharing plan, right, a fifty to fifty split. Well, that's 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.200 essentially a salary cap. And anybody's been around baseball for 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.320 five minutes, never by in the last fifty years and 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.639 knows that that's a non starter. That was not a 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.440 good place to start. Then they came back with this 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:36.600 sliding pay cut thing where Mike Trout, Garrett Cole, biggest 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.760