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Speaker 1: talking about Drew Brees. President Trump's tweet last night, almost
Speaker 1: around midnight where he's calling out the commissioner Roger Goodell.
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell had a video that he put out late
Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. And here we are headed into a new
Speaker 1: week with some old issues here they're starting to surface
Speaker 1: and Colin Kaepernick his role in all of this, and
Speaker 1: Mark Maski of the Washington Post had a column where
Speaker 1: he talked about that there feels like there's growing sentiment
Speaker 1: that maybe Colin Kaepernick will get an opportunity to come
Speaker 1: in and play a quarterback for somebody. I don't see
Speaker 1: that happening because nobody's handing the keys over to him
Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback, and that's what he would want.
Speaker 1: I want to be the starting quarterback. I should have
Speaker 1: been given a chance to be a starting quarterback. If
Speaker 1: you're bringing me in, it feels like it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of token ism here. Hey, look, we got you
Speaker 1: a job, Now go away. But the protest are going
Speaker 1: to continue, and nobody's heard from Colin Kaepernick. He doesn't
Speaker 1: say much. The last that I heard he was writing
Speaker 1: a book. But I haven't heard much from him. But
Speaker 1: I do know that the commissioner did not mention Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's name. Mc levin. Did you check and see is
Speaker 1: the commissioner allowed to say Alan Kaepernick's name after that
Speaker 1: collusion lawsuit? Wow? I don't know. I'll look up and
Speaker 1: see if there's anything written on it. And if you'd
Speaker 1: like to separate sports and politics, this hasn't been your week,
Speaker 1: or your month or your year, and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's about twenty twenty, a year like no other in
Speaker 1: American history. And maybe sports has always been political, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to race, but now it's unavoidable because
Speaker 1: of social media. Players have a platform and it's right
Speaker 1: on their phone. You can tweet, you can do a video.
Speaker 1: They've been front and center opinions actions. For the most part,
Speaker 1: athletes lives are open books, and that means sometimes they're
Speaker 1: expected to weigh in on matters that go beyond playing
Speaker 1: on a basketball court, football field, baseball field. Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: once famously refused to answer a political question because quote
Speaker 1: Republicans by sneakers too. Jordan came out passionately on the
Speaker 1: topic of racial equality this week. He's donating one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars over the next ten years. Now. Maybe Jordan
Speaker 1: would not have been comfortable saying something like that during
Speaker 1: his playing days, but times have changed. We're seeing just
Speaker 1: how much, you know, as athletes across their sports let
Speaker 1: their voices be heard. Mccleven, you got a pull question
Speaker 1: for me today. Yeah, we ranked the commissioners. He's your
Speaker 1: favorite commissioner and okay, so Adam Silver NBA wins. But
Speaker 1: can you guess who is last? I'm going to say
Speaker 1: Rob Manfred? Yeah, major League base is that is that
Speaker 1: a currency bias because they can't get it together. Well,
Speaker 1: if we were announcing today baseball's coming back in mid July,
Speaker 1: Rob Manfred wouldn't be last on the list. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to Tom Berducci covers this sport. He'll join us coming
Speaker 1: up here in a little bit. Because I didn't hear
Speaker 1: anything from baseball over the weekend, and as I said before,
Speaker 1: with the NBA, when I don't hear something from you,
Speaker 1: I'm more optimistic. When I do hear and these plans
Speaker 1: get leaked, then we're playing a game in the media,
Speaker 1: nobody's saying anything. That's a good thing in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I mentioned this at the end of last hour. We
Speaker 1: were talking about quarterbacks and big arms. You gotta have
Speaker 1: a big arm in there, and I said, no one
Speaker 1: ever said anything about Russell Wilson's arm. Never never heard it.
Speaker 1: Maybe when he was coming out of Wisconsin they talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, does he have a strong enough arm? Paully
Speaker 1: check and see what his draft bio is. I have that,
Speaker 1: of course, Okay, I'm sure you do. But you know,
Speaker 1: we get caught up in you got a big arm here,
Speaker 1: all right? Because Colin Kaepernick has a big arm. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's going to get employed. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he was a great quarterback. At times, he was a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Twenty nineteen, most touchdown passes that traveled more
Speaker 1: than twenty yards in the air downfield. Patrick Mahomes led
Speaker 1: with twelve, which you would expect. Second on the list,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Junior the third, and then it's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Now this based on how far downfield the ball was thrown.
Speaker 1: It's not a five yarder turned into a sixty five yarder.
Speaker 1: These were down the field throws. Yeah, Pull Wilson does
Speaker 1: not have the same velocity as say a Brandon Whedon,
Speaker 1: but the ball comes out with enough velocity be an
Speaker 1: NFL starter. That's a direct quote right before the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: He's no Brandon Whedon, Dan, No, he's not. I've been
Speaker 1: telling you that for years. Brandon Whedon tall first round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I did I got a scripted that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but could Brandon Whedon play the position? Another baseball guy? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah? Through a ninety nine hour mile p
Speaker 1: power fastball. Yeah, all right, some phone calls here. Mike
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Good morning, Mike, What do you have
Speaker 1: for me today? Hey? Dan, good morning. I don't really
Speaker 1: have a best probably just a lot of worse, you know,
Speaker 1: with all the controversy and everything going on. But I
Speaker 1: was told this, and I'm sure you can probably verify
Speaker 1: years ago the players weren't even out during the anthem,
Speaker 1: so maybe they might have to be something like that,
Speaker 1: you know, where you keep the anthem just for the
Speaker 1: fans and stuff. I don't think that the players will
Speaker 1: allow that to happen, but Mike, I think you're right
Speaker 1: that they'd have the anthem, Like the anthem wasn't a
Speaker 1: big deal, and then all of a sudden it became
Speaker 1: it was a showcase because somebody was going to sing it,
Speaker 1: or you'd have the flyover, we'd be able to show
Speaker 1: off the military. I don't remember when I was growing
Speaker 1: up that the anthem was a big deal where I'd go, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a big ceremony here, or everybody stops during
Speaker 1: the anthem. But that was when I was younger. But
Speaker 1: now it is a big deal. Yeah mc clove. I
Speaker 1: still don't think it's on TV though until except for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Like so it's it's a big deal,
Speaker 1: but it's not so ingrained in the game like when
Speaker 1: I we were kids, it was, Yeah, I was I
Speaker 1: went to games all the time. Never saw it, never
Speaker 1: saw the players out there. I was trying to remember
Speaker 1: when I was growing up and I'd watched the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember the anthem. I couldn't remember players
Speaker 1: lined up. I still go back to and you know,
Speaker 1: we would have Whitney Houston at the Super Bowl. What
Speaker 1: was that twenty eight, twenty nine years ago? That was
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments I remember with the anthem
Speaker 1: that was powerful in Tampa and you had the flyover.
Speaker 1: I thought it was the best rendition of the anthem
Speaker 1: that I'd ever heard, but it became more of a ceremony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: PAULI I went back to when Kaepernick thing just started,
Speaker 1: and it happened in a preseason game or an early
Speaker 1: season game, a preseason game. Shit, yeah, and a reporter
Speaker 1: in the skybox noticed Kaepernick down in the field. Traditionally,
Speaker 1: in same article had talked to a bunch of different networks.
Speaker 1: They do not show the anthem being played in most
Speaker 1: NFL games, unless there's some type of delay or ghosts later,
Speaker 1: but usually it's scheduled. Occasionally, in playoff games they will
Speaker 1: show the anthem and pan across the players, but that's
Speaker 1: a network by network decision. And then of course in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl they do, but generally almost exclusively NFL
Speaker 1: games regular season show in broadcast the nationaland Maya in
Speaker 1: Texas joins us Amyah, Hello, how are you good? Good?
Speaker 1: What's on your mind today? Well, we were all sitting
Speaker 1: around talking about with an nfall. NFL finally gets started
Speaker 1: and the national anthem goes on. We personally don't feelkneeling
Speaker 1: is a good way to protest this, but we're hoping
Speaker 1: maybe instead they could have an eight minute, forty six
Speaker 1: second silence time to recognize what's going on right now,
Speaker 1: the death of George Floyd, where the officer had his kneel,
Speaker 1: had his knee on his neck for that amount of time.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Maya. I understand if you look at this
Speaker 1: through the eyes or the optics of the president. You know,
Speaker 1: the President of the United States had a tweet late
Speaker 1: last night saying could it be even remotely possible that
Speaker 1: In Roger Goodell's rather interesting statement, of peace and reconciliation.
Speaker 1: He was intimating that he would now be okay for
Speaker 1: the players to kneel or not to stand for the
Speaker 1: national anthem, thereby disrespecting our country and our flag. If
Speaker 1: you have these different viewpoints here, then this isn't going away.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to ever be in agreement
Speaker 1: of what it means. But you're gonna look at the anthem,
Speaker 1: You're gonna look at the flag, and you're going to
Speaker 1: see something different than somebody else will. Maybe more people
Speaker 1: will at least have open eyes and ears to it
Speaker 1: to just understand. And that's why I always go back
Speaker 1: to this. Colin Kaepernick risked his career for this, and
Speaker 1: because of that. You know, when I first saw it,
Speaker 1: I was disappointed. I was like, oh, he's kneeling during
Speaker 1: the anthem, and I wondered what the fallout was going
Speaker 1: to be. And then once you hear what he was
Speaker 1: protesting about, he was using the moment to be on
Speaker 1: the biggest stage to have people then ask questions, why
Speaker 1: are you kneeling? Then he got a chance to talk
Speaker 1: about police brutality and social injustice. But until then I
Speaker 1: was looking at this narrow minded and going, oh, you
Speaker 1: can't be kneeling, And then when you realize that it's
Speaker 1: not about the anthem and disrespecting the flag as much
Speaker 1: as he wants you, to understand, what is it about
Speaker 1: that flag? And why is that flag different for me
Speaker 1: than it is for you? And then that's where I
Speaker 1: was trying to understand that. And I've since come around
Speaker 1: and I completely understand why it's so important and continues
Speaker 1: to be so important. But it's going to be polarizing.
Speaker 1: It's going to be politicized. It's going to be polarizing.
Speaker 1: I understand it, even having some trepidation bringing it up today.
Speaker 1: I don't have the answers here, but we do want
Speaker 1: to explore, We want to ask, We want to move
Speaker 1: forward with this. What's the NFL going to do? These
Speaker 1: are all legiti him in questions. What is the commissioner
Speaker 1: going to do? What are the individual owners going to do?
Speaker 1: You're going to have this in an election year and
Speaker 1: this president is going to continue to tweet about this.
Speaker 1: He feels strongly about it, his fan base feels strongly
Speaker 1: about it, and I understand that that it's not going
Speaker 1: to go away. Does the commissioner stay with this? Do
Speaker 1: the owners fall in line with the commissioners? Do the
Speaker 1: owners fall in line with the President of the United States.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I thought took a pretty courageous stance when
Speaker 1: he responded to the President saying, this is not about
Speaker 1: the flag. I don't know what Drew Brees is going
Speaker 1: to do on the sidelines this year, because you're going
Speaker 1: to see players kneeling. Will you see white players kneeling?
Speaker 1: Will you see the white stars kneeling? Is JJ Watt
Speaker 1: going to? Is Tom Brady going to? Is Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: going to? That's where it goes. It takes another step.
Speaker 1: Now you might say, what's in what direction does that take?
Speaker 1: It's going to take another step because the black athlete
Speaker 1: has said, we need the white stars to be on
Speaker 1: our sides and understand this, and we're going to find out.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom Brady has spoken about this, JJ Watt
Speaker 1: has spoken about this. Now Drew Brees has apologized for
Speaker 1: his take on it, and now we're going to find
Speaker 1: out what's going to happen on the sidelines here in
Speaker 1: a few months. But we have three months before that happens.
Speaker 1: Where are we in three months with this topic? Is
Speaker 1: there a way for the NFL to say to its players,
Speaker 1: how do we let you have something public so you
Speaker 1: still get that platform. You know, one thing that would
Speaker 1: help is if the NFL is going to stay with you,
Speaker 1: true to its words, and you know, still be invested
Speaker 1: in this because we move on so quickly. And if
Speaker 1: I'm an African American player in the NFL, I just
Speaker 1: want to make sure I still have the focus your attention,
Speaker 1: the commissioner as we move into the season and when
Speaker 1: this season starts, and is there a way that you
Speaker 1: can do this where we're going to do it this
Speaker 1: upcoming season and then we've seen enough progress and we
Speaker 1: won't do this again. If I'm the commissioner, that would
Speaker 1: be my goal. Let's recognize it, let's listen, let's watch,
Speaker 1: let's join arms. Now, let's move on and maybe you
Speaker 1: move past this. But it's going to be front and
Speaker 1: center and it's not going to be pretty. It's going
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. Eight seven seven three DP show email
Speaker 1: Addressdpatdanpatrick dot com, Greg and Illinois Back. Hi Greg, What
Speaker 1: do you have for me today? Hey? Dan? Happy Monday
Speaker 1: to you and the boys. Best worst than a question
Speaker 1: for you? Best is Drew Bees's response to the President.
Speaker 1: I think, as you said, he's taking time to listen
Speaker 1: and to educate himself, and I feel like he's doing that.
Speaker 1: My worst is I was so bored this week and
Speaker 1: actually read the United States Flag Code, and we often
Speaker 1: disrespect the flag based on that. So all of this
Speaker 1: can kind of reflect on that. But my question for
Speaker 1: you has to do with the NFL's history of marginalizing
Speaker 1: mediocre players ideas. I'm wondering if you think Goodell makes
Speaker 1: these comments if the star players aren't the ones speaking out.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, all right, I'm not sure I followed that, Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I think he was asking at the end, does Goodell
Speaker 1: make his statement if the players didn't put out the
Speaker 1: video of the day before. Oh. I do think that
Speaker 1: the NFL reacted absolutely. I don't think the NFL ever acts.
Speaker 1: They react absolutely, And I think that the commissioner probably
Speaker 1: saw what Drew Brees said and read what he said,
Speaker 1: and then thought that maybe it's okay to put out
Speaker 1: a video. And because you had a rogue employee inside
Speaker 1: the NFL who put out this video that's got twenty
Speaker 1: million views with all of the star players there, I
Speaker 1: think the commissioner looked at it and went, oh, all right,
Speaker 1: let me be along for the ride here. But I
Speaker 1: don't think the NFL acts as much as they react,
Speaker 1: And I think they're looking at what is going to
Speaker 1: be good for business down the road, What is going
Speaker 1: to be good for business. Let's see, McLevin, you found
Speaker 1: something of Forbes magazine on why the commissioner may not
Speaker 1: have said Colin Kaepernick's name in his video. Legality could
Speaker 1: have played a role here. While Kaepernick and the league
Speaker 1: settled the collusion lawsuit early last year, it remains to
Speaker 1: be seen whether the former Super Bowl quarterback can take
Speaker 1: further action against the NFL. This could be a reason
Speaker 1: why Goodell failed to mention the former NFL or in
Speaker 1: his statement. That theory is being floated about. However, the
Speaker 1: more likely scenario is that Goodell maintained his previous stance
Speaker 1: that Kaepernick is unemployed strictly for football reasons. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: got the feeling when he didn't mention Kaepernick that this
Speaker 1: had something to do with the collusion lawsuit. And you know,
Speaker 1: because Kaepernick can reopen this, you know, the NFL came
Speaker 1: out and apologized. The former VP of Communications, Joe Lockhart,
Speaker 1: came out and apologized said we made a mistake. If
Speaker 1: I'm Colin Kaepernick's attorney, I'm like, well, wall him in here, Hey, hey, Cap,
Speaker 1: come here. I think we get something. And I know
Speaker 1: that people talked about fifty or sixty million dollars that
Speaker 1: he got. I was told he got nowhere near that,
Speaker 1: that it was probably less than five million dollars. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, a victory is a victory.
Speaker 1: You can have a financial victory and then you have
Speaker 1: a victory. And you know, Colin Kaepernick is probably taking
Speaker 1: a victory lap here even though he's not probably not
Speaker 1: going to get a job. All Right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up, and uh, we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Tom Berducci. Are we going to have baseball this year?
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Speaker 1: we've updated you on the NFL situation. The NBA looks
Speaker 1: like it's full speed ahead by the end of July.
Speaker 1: Hockey's coming back, Golf's coming back. Everybody's coming back, except
Speaker 1: for Major League Baseball, And of course that means we
Speaker 1: have Tom Berducci on tom When is baseball coming back?
Speaker 1: I'd love to just tell you July. Dan. I've been
Speaker 1: thinking that all along, purely out of optimism, because right
Speaker 1: now the rhetoric is terrible. Both sides are really dug in.
Speaker 1: If you're just taking the temperature of negotiations, there's no
Speaker 1: agreement here. But I still believed that the downside to
Speaker 1: not playing baseball, especially as you mentioned all these other
Speaker 1: sports are up and running, is so enormous. That's the
Speaker 1: biggest motivator to get a deal done. So I'm still optimistic.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like the fourth of July the way
Speaker 1: owners originally wanted, but I think somewhere along the lines
Speaker 1: of sixty to seventy games, maybe beat by the beginning
Speaker 1: of August. But the NBA has the luxury of all
Speaker 1: being self quarantined in Orlando. You have your basketball courts there,
Speaker 1: you have the facilities, you'll have testing available. You know,
Speaker 1: baseball is still we're not quite sure. Are they going
Speaker 1: to be in Arizona and Florida Arizona or their home
Speaker 1: parks here? Are you going to play East Coast versus
Speaker 1: East coach Like, there's a lot that really has to
Speaker 1: be sorted out here. And then you have the money
Speaker 1: aspect here. What is front and center the biggest hurdle
Speaker 1: before we have baseball. It's the money, pure and simple.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like one of the little old
Speaker 1: fashioned players owners labor disputes. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: the downside is so big. Then that if there is
Speaker 1: no baseball, it's not because there was an enormous concern
Speaker 1: about the protocols and that the health issues. It's strictly
Speaker 1: about money on the player's side. I can tell you this.
Speaker 1: The players now have found a reason to be galvanized
Speaker 1: like I have not seen in years. This is not
Speaker 1: about pensions or service time or some esoteric CBA issue,
Speaker 1: purely about taking a pay cut. They understand it, they
Speaker 1: can rally around it, and I think that's why that
Speaker 1: they're dug in as far as where they play, you know, listen,
Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit of the benefit here
Speaker 1: as opposed to the NBA. They're playing the games outside.
Speaker 1: From what we know about the spread of the virus,
Speaker 1: it's a little less risky being outdoors. Where they play.
Speaker 1: It's looking like it's going to be in major league ballparks.
Speaker 1: You know, the state of Texas is saying you can
Speaker 1: have fifty percent capacity. Some places are saying forget it.
Speaker 1: You're not going to count on anybody being in a ballpark.
Speaker 1: So it's a local issue in terms of who's going
Speaker 1: to be there, But they are planning to mostly empty
Speaker 1: ballparks major league stadiums. What will baseball look like when
Speaker 1: it comes back? Listen. I I'm like a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I think I'll take it anyway I can get it.
Speaker 1: But when you think about the fact that they're putting
Speaker 1: in thirty man rosters with fifteen man pitching staffs after
Speaker 1: a three week spring training, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: glorified spring training, but the games will be heavy in
Speaker 1: pitching changes and less offense, which are two things we
Speaker 1: don't want as fans, right I mean, we'll have to
Speaker 1: take what we can get. But when baseball came back
Speaker 1: in eighty one, remember that was the two month strike
Speaker 1: they started in August, rosters remained to twenty five, So
Speaker 1: baseball pretty much looked the same. Offense went slightly up
Speaker 1: in the month of August of eighty one. But if
Speaker 1: you're giving managers fifteen man pitching staffs, and starting pitchers
Speaker 1: are not stretched out to pitch even their usual five
Speaker 1: or six innings, you're looking at more pitching changes, less offense.
Speaker 1: Does Jacob de gram win the say young with a
Speaker 1: five and three record, I guess it depends on his eira, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we're not going to get a quote
Speaker 1: unquote legitimate season. We're not going to get a quote
Speaker 1: unquote legitimate champion. But if I can again go back
Speaker 1: to eighty one, you had four teams earn a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: Remember that was a split season year. Four teams got
Speaker 1: into the playoffs by playing only fifty three games. There
Speaker 1: was a world champion there. You had a playoff system,
Speaker 1: all right. It wasn't the usual one sixty two and
Speaker 1: everything we're traditionally used to, but it still worked. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. And again, is there an asterisk? You know,
Speaker 1: maybe at least mentally there is. But somebody's gonna win
Speaker 1: a cy young somebody's gonna be the MVP. Baseball had
Speaker 1: such a golden opportunity here, like you could have monopolized summer.
Speaker 1: And I know that there's health issues, but really health
Speaker 1: is not first and foremost here. I know Blake Snell
Speaker 1: said this, it's always about money. It's going to be
Speaker 1: about money. If I gave baseball a doue over through
Speaker 1: this time two months ago, I give the commissioner and
Speaker 1: Tony Clark, the head of the players Association, a do over,
Speaker 1: what would you do over? Well, I think you start
Speaker 1: the negotiations from a closer advantage point because remember owners
Speaker 1: first came in and floated the idea of a revenue
Speaker 1: sharing plan, right, a fifty to fifty split. Well, that's
Speaker 1: essentially a salary cap. And anybody's been around baseball for
Speaker 1: five minutes, never by in the last fifty years and
Speaker 1: knows that that's a non starter. That was not a
Speaker 1: good place to start. Then they came back with this
Speaker 1: sliding pay cut thing where Mike Trout, Garrett Cole, biggest
Speaker 1: stars in the game, would take the biggest pay cuts. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not going to do it with the players because
Speaker 1: the union is a top down driven organization. The players
Speaker 1: are the ones, the stars of the game, who set
Speaker 1: the salary standards. They have the loudest voice, even if
Speaker 1: it's a minority of the rank and file. So that
Speaker 1: kind of ticked off the stars and their agents, especially
Speaker 1: the game so well, that kind of got things off
Speaker 1: in a wrong spot there, Dan, and I think we've
Speaker 1: lost time because of that, But you're absolutely right. There
Speaker 1: was an opportunity here. I looked at fourth of July weekend.
Speaker 1: Clubs are playing the Cardinals, Yankees are playing the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: Dodgers are playing the Giants. We're starting to move about outdoors.
Speaker 1: Baseball's got the advantage of being sort of episodic, right,
Speaker 1: It's with us every day, unlike the other sports are
Speaker 1: more event oriented and being part of that quote normalizing
Speaker 1: of routines in America, Baseball would be a big part
Speaker 1: of that. Still got a chance to do that, but
Speaker 1: it had the platform to itself by being the first
Speaker 1: ones back. Now, we don't know. I know we're optimistic,
Speaker 1: we want to be optimistic, but how close are we
Speaker 1: to the worst case scenario here Tom, that there is
Speaker 1: no baseball this summer. I don't know what the percentage is, Dan,
Speaker 1: but it's a possibility. And again I think that's to
Speaker 1: scare the pants off the players and the owners, because
Speaker 1: you're talking about a sport the last seven years, attendance
Speaker 1: has declined every year. You cannot go seventeen months without
Speaker 1: playing a Major League Baseball game in this day and
Speaker 1: age where baseball is at now. The last shutdown was
Speaker 1: ninety four, ninety five, Right, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 1: That's a generation ago, Dad, And since then we have
Speaker 1: mma with the NFL is bigger, the NBA is bigger,
Speaker 1: There's so many more entertainment opportunities for people out there.
Speaker 1: People are will be out of the habit of baseball,
Speaker 1: and don't underestimate the power of habit. So I do
Speaker 1: think it's a possibility. But again I'm going to still
Speaker 1: be on the side of saying there's going to be
Speaker 1: a season of some length I think somewhere around seventy.
Speaker 1: And I say that because there's actually some agreement here.
Speaker 1: The players say we want to be paid on appropriated basis.
Speaker 1: The owners came back and said, okay, we'll do that,
Speaker 1: but we'll only play fifty games. So now, actually, philosophically
Speaker 1: there is some agreement. To me, it's a matter of
Speaker 1: finding what that number is here that's palatable to the
Speaker 1: owners and the players. I'd like to think. I know
Speaker 1: it's not that simple of just doing math, but at
Speaker 1: least philosophically, they can get to some schedule where players
Speaker 1: are paid on a pro rated basis. Which team or
Speaker 1: teams would benefit from a shortened season. This may surprise you,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays. I look at that team and I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any pitching staff in baseball Dan that
Speaker 1: has better stuff from one through fifteen than the race.
Speaker 1: And again, I think we could expand a pitching staff
Speaker 1: and pitchers going five innings. Depth of quality arms is
Speaker 1: going to win the day, and I defy even the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: I don't think can match up one through fifteen of
Speaker 1: what the Rays can throw out there. So I think
Speaker 1: in a fifty to seventy game season, Tampa Bay Rays
Speaker 1: the most dangerous team. This is all going to be
Speaker 1: about pitching. Yep, Yeah, I think so. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it Dan, too, is how do you
Speaker 1: get these guys ramped up in time to really hit
Speaker 1: the ground running once games start. You know, when I
Speaker 1: talk to Scott Boris about this, because he's got Garrett Cole,
Speaker 1: he's got Steven Strasburg, he's got Max Schurzer. He actually
Speaker 1: brought up the idea of just because spring training two
Speaker 1: point zero is three weeks, why would you put those
Speaker 1: elite pitchers at thirty million per year on that kind
Speaker 1: of compressed schedule. Keep them on their regular four or
Speaker 1: five weeks spring training. Maybe they missed a start or
Speaker 1: two in the quote unquote regular season, but protecting those
Speaker 1: elite arms maybe something that teams have to look at.
Speaker 1: So listen, these guys have kept their arms moving, but
Speaker 1: this has been like, you know, in a purgatory state
Speaker 1: for three months for these pictures. You know, they haven't
Speaker 1: been really ramping up. They haven't been throwing off a mound.
Speaker 1: They've been playing catch. It's like January that never ends
Speaker 1: preparing for a season. So they'll come back in varying
Speaker 1: degrees of shape in terms of armhealth. And that's something
Speaker 1: every club is gonna have to really really pay attention
Speaker 1: to very closely. I can't imagine what your day is like,
Speaker 1: no matter where you go, you probably get the same question, Hey,
Speaker 1: when's main fall coming back? Like as if you're the
Speaker 1: gatekeeper here and you decide when baseball is coming back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but listen, I understand it. I kind of asked myself
Speaker 1: that question too, because there's a lot of frustration Dan
Speaker 1: here because people want baseball. Listen, we all want all sports, right,
Speaker 1: we want as much normalcy as we can. But I
Speaker 1: think people have figured out here that the reason there
Speaker 1: is no plan for baseball right now is simply money.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's unfair to boil it down that way,
Speaker 1: but baseball, I think, has to be aware that if
Speaker 1: there is no baseball, as I said, people are not
Speaker 1: just out of the habit of baseball, they will resent
Speaker 1: baseball then because it will be because we didn't have gauge.
Speaker 1: It was only because they couldn't agree about money. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point and we'll end
Speaker 1: it there. Tom, great to talk to you again. Get
Speaker 1: baseball back, Okay, come on, when won't we have it back?
Speaker 1: I don't know how to thank you, Tom. Tom Berducci
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrate to senior baseball writer and MLB network analysts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think people are going to be resentful.
Speaker 1: I really do. I think they'll be resentful of these players.
Speaker 1: Maybe the owners a little bit, but certainly the player.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't see the owners. Now when you
Speaker 1: go to a game, you see the players, and I
Speaker 1: just it feels like there's going to be resentment here.
Speaker 1: I want to be optimistic, but it's always been about money.
Speaker 1: I think we started out with health concerns. Now you
Speaker 1: basically get down to the bottom line, and that's about finance.
Speaker 1: It's about money. How much money are we going to make?
Speaker 1: And if the owners are losing money with each game,
Speaker 1: why would you want to have more games. That's why
Speaker 1: they want to have fifty But you want to get
Speaker 1: that TV money. But if you're not getting fans in
Speaker 1: the stands and you're losing half million dollars a game,
Speaker 1: then you're looking at this going wait, we're going to
Speaker 1: play more games and lose more money. But we also
Speaker 1: have to pay these players. And that's why I wondered,
Speaker 1: are some of these owners privately saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's just not play baseball and I have to pay
Speaker 1: the salaries and we don't lose all this money with
Speaker 1: the revenue that's lost with fans in the stands. Yeah, pone,
Speaker 1: it's the most obvious thing. But it's the one sport
Speaker 1: that can't afford it. It's the one sport that it's
Speaker 1: just you look at the demographs of the sports. It's
Speaker 1: all fifty plus year old men. They they you said, Coso,
Speaker 1: they have an opportunity here to loom again. Grab some
Speaker 1: people who are casual baseball fans to spending a whole
Speaker 1: night watching three hours of baseball. Yeah, that's the shame
Speaker 1: of this. That And look, I understand the obstacles here,
Speaker 1: but baseball has put everything out there. And you know
Speaker 1: when you start to think short term is when you
Speaker 1: get in trouble here. You got to be thinking bigger picture,
Speaker 1: long term and the importance of what baseball would mean.
Speaker 1: Now if you had games that were going to start
Speaker 1: fourth of July, as Tom said, Dodgers, Giants, Red Sox, Yankees.
Speaker 1: Now you have some Cubs, Cardinals, and then you're off
Speaker 1: and running. But I am curious about the depth of
Speaker 1: pitching staffs. Used to be if you went about seven
Speaker 1: or eight or nine deep, you know, with the three
Speaker 1: or three starters and then you had middle guys in bullpen.
Speaker 1: Now you're looking at twelve to fifteen pitchers. And that's
Speaker 1: why when he said the Tampa Rays, I'd certainly caught
Speaker 1: my attention there, all right, some phone calls eight seven
Speaker 1: seven three DP show, we'll give you our best and
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend. Brandon in Virginia joins us. Good morning, Brandon,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey, good morning DP. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get my thoughts on the Drew Brees and
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick that we're dealing with currently in our country.
Speaker 1: And as a disabled Marine Corps veteran, I have attended
Speaker 1: dozens of funerals for Marine Corps veterans and during those funerals,
Speaker 1: the flag is draped on the casket and is a
Speaker 1: symbol of ultimate sacrifice which allows our First Amendment. And
Speaker 1: that flag is also handed to the gold Star family
Speaker 1: as a way to remember the phone in love one
Speaker 1: and so just because of Greenberry agrees that it is
Speaker 1: located and he does not mean for the rest of us.
Speaker 1: And Drew Brees also said that the national anthem is
Speaker 1: a way for us to unify. So my question is
Speaker 1: that multiple callers are called in giving great ideas about
Speaker 1: alternative platforms for these guys. So why is the infatuation
Speaker 1: about the anthem when there is the Broncos team that
Speaker 1: we discussed that they were able to unify peacefully protesting,
Speaker 1: and there's other ways that we can peacefully protest and
Speaker 1: get behind their movement and respect to what they are doing.
Speaker 1: But why can't they respect our opinion also here as
Speaker 1: disabled and what I explained to you in terms of
Speaker 1: what the flag means to us and the sacrifice and
Speaker 1: how that allows us our first moment. So thank you
Speaker 1: guys for your thank you. Brandon, trying to find the
Speaker 1: platform is the key, and that's why when I when
Speaker 1: I saw Kaepernick and he was sitting the first time,
Speaker 1: I thought, boy, this is this is going to be explosive.
Speaker 1: And then he's you know, he knelt on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: and yes, Brandon brings up you know, the former NFL
Speaker 1: player Green Bray who said, hey, kneel, because then it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like you're disrespecting the flag. People are still
Speaker 1: going I looked at it that way, like you're kneeling
Speaker 1: while the anthem is played. And then I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find out why would Colin Kaepernick do this? He was
Speaker 1: risking his career and you know he got death threats.
Speaker 1: He was risking his life. And I understand both sides
Speaker 1: of this. It's the NFL. If they could have found
Speaker 1: a better way to allow these protesters to have their
Speaker 1: moment where they could say, we want eyes on us,
Speaker 1: we want people asking about this. I don't think we
Speaker 1: would be in this situation. But when you say you can't,
Speaker 1: or we'll cut you, or we're not going to let
Speaker 1: you guys out of the locker room. So now all
Speaker 1: this was, it was about money. You know, the owners
Speaker 1: were caring more about the fans than they were their
Speaker 1: own players. Because the players are interchangeable, they come and go,
Speaker 1: the fans you want them there for a lifetime. And
Speaker 1: I think when the owners pick sides on this, and
Speaker 1: the commissioner felt like he picked sides, the president picked sides,
Speaker 1: I think it just kind of galvanized these players to
Speaker 1: say we want our voices heard, we want to be
Speaker 1: seen and if you could come up with in this,
Speaker 1: if I'm the commissioner, I want to talk to Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Eric Reed, I want to talk to these guys, Malcolm
Speaker 1: Jenkins and just saying how can we do this so
Speaker 1: it's not accompanying the anthem. Now they may say, look,
Speaker 1: that flag doesn't represent the same to me as it
Speaker 1: does White America. We had African Americans who went and
Speaker 1: fought in World War One or World War Two and
Speaker 1: they came back or the Vietnam War, they were not
Speaker 1: afforded the same privileges as their white counterparts. Then there's
Speaker 1: the police brutality involved in this. This is there's so
Speaker 1: much intertwined with this and trying to unspoil it, you know,
Speaker 1: like take it apart and go okay, now that'll work.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a plug and ply, but
Speaker 1: that would be my goal, is the commissioner with this topic,
Speaker 1: we continue to be part of this. We move with you,
Speaker 1: not against you. Now, how do we do something that
Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit more I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say placating the audience, but it has to
Speaker 1: be it has to feel like it's a co op.
Speaker 1: You know, we're in it together. You know we're going
Speaker 1: to disagree, we agree to disagree, but we're in it together.
Speaker 1: It's just if you have hardliners here, then we're not
Speaker 1: going to make much progress with this. And I respect
Speaker 1: Brandon what you said and that you know your service
Speaker 1: and what that must feel like and look like when
Speaker 1: you know what that flag is and you have had,
Speaker 1: you know, compatriots that you've had to bury and go
Speaker 1: to their funerals and you see that flag and what
Speaker 1: that flag means now and I understand that my father
Speaker 1: has a flag, you know, with his dress blues like
Speaker 1: I understand it. But I have to be able to
Speaker 1: expand my mind to understand the other side of this
Speaker 1: because I don't know that world. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that feels like. But I'm trying to understand that. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the progress we'll make is trying to
Speaker 1: understand it. We don't agree, but understanding is one thing.
Speaker 1: If you just have this, this is my feeling and
Speaker 1: that's the way it is, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear the other side, then look at your progative. But
Speaker 1: we won't make progress. If that's the case. I will
Speaker 1: take a break. More phone calls. We'll give you our
Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend coming up here back
Speaker 1: after this. Thanks for listening to The Damn Patrick Show podcast.
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Speaker 1: com slash the Dan Patrick Show. Seaton just brought something
Speaker 1: to my attention. Close caption is a tricky thing. Last Friday,
Speaker 1: I said I want to talk about Drew Brees, and
Speaker 1: close caption had something other than Drew Brees on the screen.
Speaker 1: It was the word boobies. Yes, yeah, said I want
Speaker 1: to comment on booby. I want to comment on boobies,
Speaker 1: and that was the close caption there. You imagine it's
Speaker 1: somebody who's watching. They're going, I'd like to and I'm
Speaker 1: so serious when I'm talking about this, and they're probably go,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Wait he looks really serious. Yeah, buddy
Speaker 1: of mine, send it to me. He's like, well, are
Speaker 1: you guys talking about today? It's like spell check now
Speaker 1: that you go, wait, I didn't say that. A spell
Speaker 1: check Sometimes you know that's your best friend. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I did want to talk about boobies, but
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about boobies. Then I was
Speaker 1: talking about Drew Brees. Booby Clark, by the way, former
Speaker 1: running back since Night Venagels. Yes, mcleovy. Do you ever
Speaker 1: have something that autocorrects in a text, and then you
Speaker 1: try and fix it and you end up autocorrecting a
Speaker 1: different word and you send the wrong word like five
Speaker 1: times in a text to a friend. I have somebody
Speaker 1: who always like they voice their message and it's so bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have no idea. My wife will do
Speaker 1: that and I'll just go why do you what do
Speaker 1: you want me to do? And it'll be so scattered,
Speaker 1: it's like four different thoughts and I go, I call
Speaker 1: and I go, uhn, what are you talking about? And
Speaker 1: then she makes it seem like, oh, I ask you
Speaker 1: to go no, no, no, no, no no, and I go,
Speaker 1: that's not what your message said. Yeah, Tom, if you
Speaker 1: notice a misspelled word to mclevin's point, do you go back?
Speaker 1: Is it anal to go back and fix that word
Speaker 1: even though it's obvious in the context of the text
Speaker 1: what that word is, but you feel a need that
Speaker 1: you have to fix the spelling of it and resend
Speaker 1: the whole message. It depends on the message. I guess
Speaker 1: if it doesn't change the definition of what you're the
Speaker 1: point you're trying to make you leave out pronouns, I do, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'll do that all the time, and I'll feel
Speaker 1: like I need to like let the person know that
Speaker 1: I know how to spell from or something like that,
Speaker 1: I have to retype it even though it's obvious that
Speaker 1: that's what the word is. Yeah. I do go back,
Speaker 1: and I don't profread my emails, but if I see
Speaker 1: that I made a mistake in punctuation or spelling, I
Speaker 1: will correct it. I don't. I don't want that out
Speaker 1: there that I can't spell or I have horrible grammar.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not great at either, but I don't
Speaker 1: want it trumpeted. My friend is dot dot Dotugh, nothing's
Speaker 1: worse than that guy. Yeah, because when you have when
Speaker 1: you have nothing to say but dot dot dot and
Speaker 1: make us fill in the rest. Yeah, dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: I do that a lot, and Paulie's called me out
Speaker 1: on that a few times, especially in the subject line
Speaker 1: of an email that I'll send you guys to make
Speaker 1: sure that you'll open at the dot dot dot means
Speaker 1: there's more to it than just a few words I
Speaker 1: put in the subject Let's go around the room. Best
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend, Seaton O'Connor, your best and
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend. I just watched last night Ford
Speaker 1: versus Ferrari. It's good. It's pretty good. Yeah yeah. I
Speaker 1: didn't like the ending. Uh yeah, the ending kind of stunk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's the story, right. I guess it
Speaker 1: is a true story, I know, but just the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what, though, I kind of
Speaker 1: hated Matt Damon's character in it. I don't know if.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're supposed to or not, but
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, if this guy would just stick
Speaker 1: up for his buddy just once in his whole life.
Speaker 1: He's good in the role. Oh yeah, he's great in
Speaker 1: the role. Yeah. And Christian Bale is good too. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good movie. That's my best okay sorry, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. Okay, mcclove and best and worse
Speaker 1: of the weekend. I got nothing. There was no sports,
Speaker 1: there's no My wife's all right. I'll just tell real quick.
Speaker 1: My wife wants to watch the show Alias from two
Speaker 1: thousan with Jennifer So. We got four episodes into Alias,
Speaker 1: but that feels like the most dated, best, the worst
Speaker 1: ever boobies. Booby. I need more shows, Dan, I need
Speaker 1: your help. After the show. We're out of shows. I've
Speaker 1: been telling you, better call Saul. Just do that right now,
Speaker 1: Killing Eve? Do that, like you? If you just need
Speaker 1: a few seasons, those are both really good. Just first
Speaker 1: season of Killing Eve, you'll be fine. Yeah, on the club.
Speaker 1: But I have this secret. I never saw Breaking Bad.
Speaker 1: I feel so out of it by so could I
Speaker 1: do better call Saul without having seen Breaking Back? Watch
Speaker 1: better call Sault and then watch Breaking Bad? And you'll like,
Speaker 1: I'd be envious of you if that, if you were
Speaker 1: going to go, better call Sault and then do Breaking Back?
Speaker 1: Paulie best and worst of the week. I'm with Andrew.
Speaker 1: I actually kind of unintentionally did not watch television from
Speaker 1: Friday until Sunday evening at about eight o'clock. It was unintentional,
Speaker 1: quite refreshing. But on any other weekend, if there are
Speaker 1: sports and other things, I would have watched nothing really good.
Speaker 1: The NASCAR was pretty good. I taped a little Nascar
Speaker 1: and watched it last night. That's about it, Todd. I
Speaker 1: went with an emotional Sateurday night. UFC two fifty, Cody
Speaker 1: Stateman defeats Brian Kellher by unanimous decision after his eighteen
Speaker 1: year old brother Jacob unexpectedly had passed away in his
Speaker 1: sleep last week, so it was nice to see him
Speaker 1: get the victory. My worst. I know you guys were
Speaker 1: talking about it earlier, and maybe there's legal reasons, but
Speaker 1: Roger Guedell not mentioning Colin Kaepernick by name late Friday
Speaker 1: afternoon and that news dump on camera statement, I have
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, I was surprised it was late Friday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Paulie goes NFL with the news dump, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, so I went on websites and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: the commissioner put out a video at five point thirty
Speaker 1: on Friday, or at least it felt like it was
Speaker 1: around five o'clock. And that's usually what happens when you
Speaker 1: want to have a news dump, where it just sort
Speaker 1: of disappears into the weekend. But it was a powerful message.
Speaker 1: I think I think it resonated with a lot of players.
Speaker 1: At least it feels like that final hour coming up.
Speaker 1: More phone call update the poll results. The best commissioner
Speaker 1: in sports is Adam Silver, worse Rob Manford. All right,
Speaker 1: we need to change it up for the final line.
Speaker 1: I got an option, all right. More phone calls Best
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend. We'll get to those two
Speaker 1: hours in the books. One more to go on this Monday,
Speaker 1: Dan and the Dance, Stan Patrick Show Boobies