WEBVTT - Who Should You Trust More: Tyreek Hill or Ladd McConkey? | Week 13 Fantasy Football Wide Receiver Rankings and Tiers: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts w/ Scott Pianowski (Ep. 1467)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the Fantasy Football Podcast. Wide receiver ranks for Week thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got patkits Morris, I've got Scott p and Al

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<v Speaker 1>down all these bad boys for you. Top thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers not as been deep as usual that we're

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<v Speaker 1>used to couple wide receivers that could be top twenty

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<v Speaker 1>maybe taking off due to some crazy snow. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch to cover. Are you guys ready to

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<v Speaker 1>jump into wide receivers? Let's do it raw Robins looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a big raw like yeah, let's go. Well, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into it. Wide receiver's Top twelve going to

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<v Speaker 1>the big board. Here's a new entry into our number

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<v Speaker 1>one overall rank. I do not believe we have seen him,

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<v Speaker 1>but Nico Collins coming in at number one. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as all wide receivers go, it's an incredible matchup against

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<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars this week. AJ Brown number two, Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Pooka and Justin Jefferson as your top five, Monrod six,

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Cup, Mike Evan, Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens, Courtland Sutton

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<v Speaker 1>and Terry mcclaurin. That rounds out the top twelve. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no play had me on my seat bigger than last

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<v Speaker 1>week than Terry mclaurin's just massive touchdown that saved so

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<v Speaker 1>many different the DFS lineup FFPC another big league that

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<v Speaker 1>was an absolute big savior, and it's something that just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happens with the Commanders and Terry McLaurin. You

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<v Speaker 1>wish you would get more volume because he's such a

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<v Speaker 1>great player. But man, it feels like we get one

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<v Speaker 1>of those a week. So let's talk about McLaurin here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got an ECR of twelve. We actually moved down

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<v Speaker 1>one spot. He was eleven yesterday. You guys are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the opposite ends here, Scott, you are

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit above consensus, fits you are a bit

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<v Speaker 1>below consensus. So Scott, let's start with you on the positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry McLaurin at number ten this week, going up against

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<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee Titans, which is only a two star matchup

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<v Speaker 1>rating Accorn to Fantasy Pro. So what do you got

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<v Speaker 1>on Terry McLaurin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if anything all that illuminating. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish he'd get a healthier target share or target count.

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<v Speaker 2>He's only made to double digit targets once this year,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's got five games with one hundred yards, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got touchdowns and what sixty five or six different games.

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously the first reading this offense. Brown is significantly

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<v Speaker 2>further down the pecking order. They won't have Eckler in

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<v Speaker 2>this game. Zach Ertz is going to do what he

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<v Speaker 2>always does. He'll catch four passes. He'll fall immediately when

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<v Speaker 2>he catches those passes, he'll get forty three yards and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully that does it for you. But at least we

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<v Speaker 2>saw Washington the buoyancy of the offense. You know, Jayden Daniels,

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to run a little bit last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he was protecting a rib. In

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<v Speaker 2>previous weeks he looked more back and forth. It's important

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<v Speaker 2>to remember that just because the Titans are a bad

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<v Speaker 2>team doesn't mean their defense is bad. It's actually a

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<v Speaker 2>quality defense. And I think their metrics would be even

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<v Speaker 2>better if they weren't getting sold down the river by

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<v Speaker 2>their offense almost every week because Levis just gives the

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<v Speaker 2>ball away with all those negative plays that he makes.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we can quibble on is McLaurin a lower

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<v Speaker 2>end wide receiver one, is a higher end wide receiver two?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really matter. We're finally seeing the Terry McLaurin

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<v Speaker 2>breakout season. He's finally tied to a plus quarterback, to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody we can feel good about. And I mentioned on

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<v Speaker 2>The Running Back Show, I hope Garrett Wilson has this

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<v Speaker 2>Terry McLaurin season down the road where he finally gets

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<v Speaker 2>in the right situation. It's like that friend of yours

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<v Speaker 2>has been a bunch of bad relationships. They finally found

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<v Speaker 2>the right person. They're like, oh, that's great. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a nice Thanksgiving together. You know, they're gonna get married,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have kids, They're going to build a pick

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<v Speaker 2>at fence and all that, adopt a dog, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think Terry mclaurin's finally having that year and

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<v Speaker 2>he's been a set and forget guy. I know Pat

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<v Speaker 2>and I you're sitting next to each other at the

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<v Speaker 2>King's Classic for funding over Terry McLaurin because he's always

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<v Speaker 2>been one of our favorite players. So happy to see

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<v Speaker 2>him out kick his ADP. But to just remember, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a fence wide receiver one two. That's really what

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<v Speaker 2>the upside is for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat, do you believe that? It is like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to quabble about you know, wide receiver one, wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver two. Do you think that belongs there? The only

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<v Speaker 1>reason I also to say that is like there's this

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<v Speaker 1>collection of wide receiver, like the top eight. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>all the names you expect, but then you start to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the low teens, and you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>make that move for Terry McLaurin down to sixteen, he

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<v Speaker 1>might be bumping up against a Lad Maconkey, Cortland Sutton

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<v Speaker 1>looks incredible right now. And again I throw this in

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<v Speaker 1>here because it's like if someone is out there and

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<v Speaker 1>they start two wide receivers and they had drafted Jamar

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<v Speaker 1>Chase and then they had got Cortland, Sutton, Lad and

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<v Speaker 1>Terry McLaurin. Those are the four wide outs. That's a quandary.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit of a problem, like who are

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<v Speaker 1>you sitting out there and you bump him down? So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of just push at you. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little arbitrary about you know, ten to sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of in the same range, or do you

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<v Speaker 1>have some general concerns putting him down there at sixteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean so I would rather play Sutton, who

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<v Speaker 3>has been on fire ever since that weird Thursday night

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<v Speaker 3>game where he got zero targets, and ever since then.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's like top five in Fantasy scoring. My

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<v Speaker 3>concern with McLaurin, and it's not that much of a

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<v Speaker 3>concern because I'm starting him in a lot of leagues

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<v Speaker 3>this week, although not the King's Classic, where Scott wrestled

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<v Speaker 3>him away from me.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>He only has seventeen targets over his last four games.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually has ten fewer targets than Noah Brown over

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<v Speaker 3>that stretch, which is weird. He's gotten kind of bailed

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<v Speaker 3>out by big plays. The spectacular late game touchdown against

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas last week, a fifty four yard catch a few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago against the Steelers that helped push him over

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred yard mark that day. But McLaurin is

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<v Speaker 3>only a double digit targets once all season. He's averaging

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<v Speaker 3>eleven point one yards per target, which is great. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because he is such a good player, not

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<v Speaker 3>that wild for him to OutKick expectations in yards per target,

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<v Speaker 3>although eleven point one probably a little on stainable over

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<v Speaker 3>the long run. Also, you know this Titans defense, even

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<v Speaker 3>without Lugerious Sneid who's on ir It's it's still a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty formidable pass defense. So yeah, I'm just I like McLaurin.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, I think most people, accepting the most shallow

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<v Speaker 3>of leagues are going to be starting him without question

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<v Speaker 3>this week.

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<v Speaker 4>I just for me, he's not quite a wide receiver. One.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just back that up, Chris, because you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>Sutton and McLaurin in the same conversation, and man, Sutton

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<v Speaker 2>is a player I really like. He reminds me so

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<v Speaker 2>much of Doug Bump even higher than that. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 2>in the top five at his peak. But maybe Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Brady gave us a misleading understanding of what a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>could do in his forties, because you know, father time,

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<v Speaker 2>I always wins, and we've seen a lot. You know, Manning,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, lost it quicker than Brady did. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>been other guy you Farv's obviously the comp that people

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<v Speaker 2>make with Rogers. Who goes to the Jets has a

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<v Speaker 2>lost season. I just don't want to watch the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to bet on the Jets. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in the Jets. It's nothing about Garrett Wilson. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the people throwing him the ball. It's the people calling

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<v Speaker 2>them plays. There Adams is a mouth to feed too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I can't. I can't do it. Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have I have him ranked when you're probably the

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<v Speaker 2>start them anyway, But who knows, Maybe you got lucky

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<v Speaker 2>with Courtland Sutton later in your draft, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe you made a trade and upgraded your depth

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<v Speaker 2>and you only start two receivers and new league, you

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<v Speaker 2>could bench Garrett Wilson. I just want you, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to be annged at all to anything you

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<v Speaker 2>thought Garrett Wilson was before the season, because that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>apply now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ranks almost look like Garret Wilson and DeVante Adams are

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<v Speaker 1>becoming the Bucky Irving and Rashad White of wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're just kind of being ranked towards each other

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just not really sure they could both eat

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<v Speaker 1>in theory, especially more than a running back in the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver side. But the questions on the offense in

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<v Speaker 1>general are kind of out there. Fitz, you got him

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<v Speaker 1>at eighteen. Do you think there's a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>optimism and upside going up against Seattle this week? Three

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<v Speaker 1>star rating? It is an a matchup. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen Garrett Wilson be more efficient than Adams in general.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that offense has just been kind of a disaster,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that there is a potential that brace

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<v Speaker 1>Hall could be out in this game, so that either

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<v Speaker 1>can get messier or they could rely more on throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, So eighteen a little bit more optimistic. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's a little bit more optimism for Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson because also the last thing eighteen kind of starts

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a wrinkle in of like maybe this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a guy we're actually starting. I know we label them

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<v Speaker 1>as wide receiver twos, but there are guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>jumped up that really could give people fits, no pun

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<v Speaker 1>intended about like what decision they're going to make. So

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<v Speaker 1>your take on Garrett Wilson.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, the last couple of weeks haven't been pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's had like nine catches for fifty six

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<v Speaker 3>yards over his last two games, and maybe it is

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<v Speaker 3>right to be ready to wave the white flag on

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets passing game. And it sounds like Scott has

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<v Speaker 3>had that flag flying for a couple of weeks now,

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<v Speaker 3>But it was not that long ago weeks five through

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<v Speaker 3>Week nine. So during that five game stretch that again

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<v Speaker 3>not all that long ago, Garret Wilson had forty catches

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<v Speaker 3>for four hundred and seventy two yards and four touchdowns

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<v Speaker 3>and was the wide receiver in fantasy scoring over that stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just can't forget that He's still inside my

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<v Speaker 3>circle of trust, even if the passing game as a

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<v Speaker 3>whole isn't. And I feel much better about Garret Wilson

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<v Speaker 3>than I do about DeVante Adams at this point. Like

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<v Speaker 3>Garret Wilson, I would start pretty much unconditionally DeVante Adams,

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<v Speaker 3>I would, you know, there's some other ify guys I

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<v Speaker 3>would maybe consider starting ahead of Davante.

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<v Speaker 1>Wide receiver threes twenty five through thirty six, we start

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<v Speaker 1>with Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jamison Williams, Brian Thomas, DJ Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil Shakir, and Darnell Mooney. At thirty Juwan Jennings, Jacoby Meyers,

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<v Speaker 1>Tank Dell Deebo, Samuel Jaylen Waddle and DeAndre Hopkins rounds

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<v Speaker 1>out are wide receiver threes, and yes those are some

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<v Speaker 1>low forty nine or wide receivers. I am not surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that Juwan Jennings ranks higher than Debo. It's how it

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<v Speaker 1>should be, what I've been alluding to for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and Debo was an absolute disaster this past week. Brock

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<v Speaker 1>Perdy really wants to go to Juan Jennings. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the vibe. But this week the LOLO rank is

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<v Speaker 1>this bad storm that in theory is being thrown out.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there gonna be a bunch of snow it's been

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<v Speaker 1>going early on? This is what pushes them out. So Fitz,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with you on the forty nine ers wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver here. I don't know what you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, like, are they complete nothing burgers for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's snow. Obviously, if it clears up and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just snowy around, that actually could be a big positive

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<v Speaker 1>that actually would benefit if we're being honest, something like

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<v Speaker 1>Deebo Samuel, if there wasn't a flurry going on. But

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation is there might not be much there. So A,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think both forty nine ers receivers deserve to

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<v Speaker 1>be outside the top thirty? And b is it Juwan

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<v Speaker 1>Jennings over Deebo Samuel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, A lot of moving parts here, mainly the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>situation and the weather right now. When I first did

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<v Speaker 3>these rankings, I did it with the assumption that Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>Allen would play again, like I haven't seen enough positive

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<v Speaker 3>indicators that we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Get brock perty back this week.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also did it with the assumption that that

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be reasonably playable. Weather didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 3>there was a blizzard moving into Buffalo, so I had

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<v Speaker 3>both guys ranked rankings twins in the mid thirties with

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<v Speaker 3>this blizzard, and if Brandon Allen plays, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be moving Juwan Jennings probably down at least a dozen

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<v Speaker 3>spots into the forties and unplayable territory. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>blizzard would hurt Deebo a little bit less because he's

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<v Speaker 3>a short area receiver who might also take the occasional reverse.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, Deebo is so good with the ball

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<v Speaker 3>in his hands that maybe I don't know, maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>snow it hurts defenders who don't know where the ballcarrier

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<v Speaker 3>is going. You know, the ballcarrier knows where he's going.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I might still have Debo in the

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<v Speaker 3>mid thirties with the snow. And I guess, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the problem isn't when Deebo has the ball in his hands,

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<v Speaker 3>it's getting it into his hands. And that was a

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<v Speaker 3>problem last week when he couple of easy throws go

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<v Speaker 3>right through his mets.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's you know, again there's some debate on where

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<v Speaker 1>it is. There's some stuff out there that thinks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have like big wins and massive massive

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<v Speaker 1>snow some current weather things I'm showing out there, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a fifty percent chance of you know, snow flurry

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be going on. The wind doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>too crazy at this moment, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty degrees out so you have to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the week. It is dangerous to make massive assumptions

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<v Speaker 1>like it is going to be some crazy you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't even see it on the screen type of

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<v Speaker 1>game or anything like that, because we know production can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, the question is like,

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<v Speaker 1>if Brandon Allen is in there, these wide receivers stink

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<v Speaker 1>down at the bottom. So Scott, it kind of goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the same thing with you do both of these

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers deserve to be in the thirty old one?

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<v Speaker 2>Just a great understanding of space and leverage. And since

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<v Speaker 2>that bagel against the Saints and nobody saw that coming,

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<v Speaker 2>the Broncos have correct They've done what good teams do.

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<v Speaker 2>They did something wrong and they fixed it. Since then,

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<v Speaker 2>Sutton has between eight and eleven targets in every game,

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<v Speaker 2>He's had strong yardage totals. In every game he scored

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<v Speaker 2>three touchdowns, and bow Nicks has gone from a running

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback who sometimes throws to a throwing quarterback who can

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<v Speaker 2>run if he needs to. Courtland Sutton to me, if

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<v Speaker 2>I anticipate there may be some Sutton versus McLaurin questions

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<v Speaker 2>this week, and I know initially my first ranking had

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<v Speaker 2>McLaurin higher, but I think that's wrong. I think Sutton.

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<v Speaker 2>I've fixed it since then. I think Sutton is certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the preference here, and I think we're going to look

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<v Speaker 2>back and say Courtland Sutton was one of the right

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<v Speaker 2>answers of the fantasy season.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Nicks too. It's about Nicks. You know, last week,

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<v Speaker 1>just to shout out to the Betting Pros app will

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<v Speaker 1>put up these like Betting Pros only plays. And my

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<v Speaker 1>play of the week last week, if you had checked

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<v Speaker 1>out Betting Pros, you would have got it for three

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<v Speaker 1>or four days was bo Nick's over nineteen point five

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<v Speaker 1>completions because he had had three straight weeks of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two or more completions four now four. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a completion monster. They've really perfected some of the big plays,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the short line completions he can get and

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<v Speaker 1>that benefits a guy like Courtland Sutton, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a stabilizer through the rest of the year. So

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree here. It's a weird collection of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got these huge names at the top of mon

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<v Speaker 1>Ra Cooper, Mike Evans, and then it's like at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the first round it's Courtland Sutton, George Pickens,

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<v Speaker 1>and Terry McLaurin. And there's some negatives in there. Courtland

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<v Speaker 1>Sutton is probably the safest of that entire group from

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<v Speaker 1>a volume in Big Playstann and look at bo.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicks, by the way, making a run at Offensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year, which was basically that that trophy was

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<v Speaker 2>already in the case for Jaden Daniels maybe a month

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<v Speaker 2>ago or six weeks ago, and now Daniel's still the favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>but Nix is coming on fast to the point that

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<v Speaker 2>whoever plays better the rest of the season, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is going to win that award. And remember Cleveland, and

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<v Speaker 2>we think of the Browns defense maybe is better than

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<v Speaker 2>it is because you know, their cold weather team, that's

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<v Speaker 2>their identity, and Miles Garrett is a wonderful player. The

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland secondary has not played well at all. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you need Court and Sutton to come through on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can do just that against the Brown secondary.

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<v Speaker 2>You can make hay On all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be a great Saturday. And what's better

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<v Speaker 1>I don't live in Buffalo, but I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 1>what the panoramic views look like if they'll just put

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<v Speaker 1>snow in there, and what all the snow looks like

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<v Speaker 1>for that Buffalo forty nine er game. All right, wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers thirteen through twenty four. These would be the wide

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<v Speaker 1>out twos. Malik Neighbors comes in at thirteen. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Drake London, Tyreek Hill down outside the top fourteen T Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>Lad McConkie, Calvin Ridley's A Flowers, Garrett Wilson, Jackson Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and Jigba, dk Metcalf, Devanta Adams and Jaden Reed. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me throw kurveball that's not on the sheet here and

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<v Speaker 1>Pat will start with you. Who would you rather this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill or Lad McConkie Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going back to the well with Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>I still, you know, fundamentally believe it. It should work

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<v Speaker 3>with him, even if it hasn't yet, always a threat

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<v Speaker 3>to break a big play.

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<v Speaker 4>Although I am a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit concerned about a team based in South Florida going

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<v Speaker 3>up to Green Band Thanksgiving night, where the temperatures are

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<v Speaker 3>probably going to be in the low twenties, how is

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<v Speaker 3>that passing game going to function.

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<v Speaker 1>With a bunch of Where do you have him ranked?

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<v Speaker 3>I've got him a wide receiver ten. It's hard for

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<v Speaker 3>me to move him out of wide receiver one range.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know I keep going back to the well

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<v Speaker 3>on Tyreek Hill, and that probably explains why wide receiver

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<v Speaker 3>has been my worst position in rankings accuracy all year.

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<v Speaker 1>So the same thing Scott Lad McConkie or Tyreek Hill

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would go on to McConkie. You know, Tyreek

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<v Speaker 2>Hill was wide receiver four and half point PPR in

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<v Speaker 2>that first week. That's just unusual runout right, he is

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<v Speaker 2>he incident before the game plays great? Anyway, his best

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<v Speaker 2>performance since then sing in a half point pprs wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver sixteen. And there's a lot of bricks in there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a forty, there's a forty one, there's an eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized there were some games to it didn't play.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point you have to accept. Look, I know

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<v Speaker 2>some people are saying, hey, Jayalen Wattle finally came in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great after two months of doing absolutely nothing. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't want Tua taking deep drops. I don't like Miami

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And I realize this is like the lowest

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<v Speaker 2>hanging fruit, But I don't like Miami at all. In

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<v Speaker 2>this green Bay environment night game, the fish out of water,

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<v Speaker 2>frozen tundrift, it actually will be frozen. I'm still not

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<v Speaker 2>even all the way in on too. I know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people were singing his prices. He was really

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<v Speaker 2>good last week. He's been pretty good since the return.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not I'm never going to be in love

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<v Speaker 2>with Tua. That's just where I'm at right now. And

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<v Speaker 2>with mconkie catches all of his targets on Monday, while

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<v Speaker 2>Quintin Johnson was just finding new ways to drop passes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, over the middle, on the boundaries, you're running

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<v Speaker 2>wrong routes. I got to figure that. Justin Herbert's gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>who can I trust. It's Lad maconkie catching all his targets,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Will Disley catching all his target it's McConkie. Hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been a volume monster, but I think this is the

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<v Speaker 2>week maybe he gets into that double digit target range.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know it's floor over upside because as Pat said,

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<v Speaker 2>Tyreek Hill can make your week with that one big play.

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<v Speaker 2>He can score an eighty R touchdown. Maybe McConkie probably

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<v Speaker 2>ostensibly can't. But I'm going to go with the bass player.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the league guitarist is Hill, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tax him for basically three months of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mia production for this Miami team. I hate the matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to regret this when Tyreek Hill has

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<v Speaker 2>a monster game on Thanksgiving Night, but I have him

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ten slots lower than Pat does.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers want to go deep is part of the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't use Lad deep, and I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>do make that change. Like you're talking about like he is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the comfort level.

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<v Speaker 2>But Conky's understanding of space and how to beat z

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<v Speaker 2>own is so so great and the only reason Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to throw the ball like crazy. They had

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<v Speaker 2>Bowers and mcconukkee on the same team, and just imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if they played a team They're a team that couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>run the ball, they had no defense or something. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they've always had stud defensive players too. That's what is

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<v Speaker 2>how you get to multip national championships. I want all

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<v Speaker 2>the Lad McConkey in Dynasty. Not that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get him off his manager's hands easily, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>everybody likes him. But I am really impressed with McConkie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's I think his rookie season has been

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<v Speaker 2>better than it's looked, just because they haven't fully stepped

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<v Speaker 2>into his role, and I can't wait to see what

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<v Speaker 2>this offense is like. Maybe t Higgins goes there next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want Quentin Johnson out of my life. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Palmer is never going to be somebody I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to trust. Snap to snap. They're playing Jalen Rager

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<v Speaker 2>for crying out loud. Let's get some real receivers in

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<v Speaker 2>the LAC to help out McConkie. But I think Lad

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<v Speaker 2>mcconauky next year is going to be like wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>twenty on my board to start to see.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you get if Ladd had Puokah like targets,

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<v Speaker 1>he would probably put up Pooka like numbers, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy. And shout out always over and shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Herbert and Ladd, because I took five and

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<v Speaker 1>a half over receptions and it was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where it felt like you know in college, where

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<v Speaker 1>they understand you know, the marketing, the betting side, and

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<v Speaker 1>they go for that extra field goal when they shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>that last little target with like a minute left. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like Herbert did that just for me, So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Lad and Herbert. I appreciate that one. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Calvin Ridley here, Calvin Ridley has got an ECR

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen. He was actually at sixteen earlier, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>moved down just a tiny bit. Scott, you've got him

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen. Fitch, you've got him at twenty one. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk on the negative for a second. Fits. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not crazy off of the ECR, but you are

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<v Speaker 1>lower than ECR outside the top twenty. On Calvin Ridley,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going up against Washington four star rating in an

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<v Speaker 1>A minus matchup grade according to Fantasy Pros. What he

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<v Speaker 1>got on Ridley?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was buying the Calvin Ridley steam a few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago when he was practically drowning in targets, but

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm pumping the brakes a little bit. He's only

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<v Speaker 3>drawn six targets in each of his last two games,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not like that was because the Titans were

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<v Speaker 3>blowing anyone out in those games. One of them was

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<v Speaker 3>a ten point loss to Minnesota, the other was that

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<v Speaker 3>wild seesaw game last week against the Texans. And obviously

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<v Speaker 3>whatever targets Ridley is getting are coming from Will levis

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<v Speaker 3>so still high on him, Still think he's startable in

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<v Speaker 3>most leagues, but he is just outside the top twenty

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, you have got him higher, You've got him inside

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<v Speaker 1>your top fifteen. This week, Jeff, Calvin Ridley over Tyreek kill.

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<v Speaker 2>I do, but it's not with a ton of conviction.

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's other people getting touchdowns here. The Levis concern,

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<v Speaker 2>I had hoped when you saw that fifteen target game

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<v Speaker 2>against Detroit where Ridley came off the bus just smoking,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's eight and nine targets the next two games.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Titans were going to lean into their

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<v Speaker 2>best player, and they haven't done that to the level

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<v Speaker 2>I want, and teams need to identify the Giants should

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<v Speaker 2>be doing this with neighbors his usage. Has it made

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<v Speaker 2>any sense for me the last few weeks. He's complained

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<v Speaker 2>about this week. Maybe they'll fix it on Thanksgiving, But

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason why Calvin Ridley shouldn't have ten targets

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<v Speaker 2>every week. And I think the fact that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>gotten that usage. I don't know if it's the coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know to what degree it's Levis. Maybe defenses

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<v Speaker 2>are prioritizing him. I admit that when I do rewatch,

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<v Speaker 2>as the Titans are one of the last teams I

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<v Speaker 2>want to look at. It's just, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the fun teams. I want to watch the teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the answer that I derive will actually

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<v Speaker 2>have fantasy utility. I don't know that there is anything

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out with the Titans necessarily, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>wish the usage were a little bit heavier. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it should be. And at this point late in November,

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<v Speaker 2>when teams tell you what they are, you have to believe,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminds me of last week. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite bets was Travis Kelcey to get a receiving touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and my logic was Panthers had given up five receiving

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns to tight ends over the last three weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>seven on the season, and then what happens Noah Gray

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<v Speaker 1>gets them, and I'm like, well, all right, my logic

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<v Speaker 1>was right. It's just it went in the opposite end.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of the same thing I look at where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Calvin Ridley, you want more usage, you want

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger plays. The logic is there, but then it's

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Nick Westbrook who ends up getting the big plays every

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<v Speaker 1>single week and he gets those touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wi baby, seventeen catches, what's seven touchdowns? Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>what a fun player he is. Look, I know this

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 2>isn't necessarily NWI segment, but let's just mention it. Right

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<v Speaker 2>since they traded Hopkins, he's on the field like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the time. He's basically in every passing down player,

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>and he scored short touchs. He had a long touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago. If you're in a pinch

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<v Speaker 2>with a deeper league, some injuries or whatever, I don't know,

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I could ride with nick Us.

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 3>For he has scored a touchdown on twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>his targets this year. Thirty targets, six touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of hard to predict, but at this point, who cares.

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<v Speaker 1>You just get him out there and he gets you

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<v Speaker 1>those points. Let's talk about Garrett Wilson with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some negativity I believe earlier. I think even

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<v Speaker 1>in the RB show that we were talking about just

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<v Speaker 1>about the Jets offense in general. He comes in at

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<v Speaker 1>ECR twenty. Fitzy, you got him at eighteen, Scott, you

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<v Speaker 1>got him at twenty two. Scott, let's start with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're just kind of negative on the Jets

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>in general, the wide receivers kind of go back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Grett.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett had kind of been like, you know, the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that was slowly kind of fading away. You

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<v Speaker 1>seem a little bit pessimistic about his value. He's almost

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<v Speaker 1>outside of wide receiver two but not quite so. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us on starting Garrett Wilson a week thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is you know, goodwill hunting. This is where

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Robin Williams hugged you and says, it's not that's your fault.

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't Terry mclaurin's fault. It wasn't Alan Robinson's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Garrett Wilson's fault. He's a tremendous player and

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't wait to see him get his Jaden

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Daniels that McLaurin got. We talked about this in the

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<v Speaker 2>Running Back Show. Aaron Rodgers has played every card he can.

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<v Speaker 2>He got the offensive cordiator fired, he got Devontae Adams

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<v Speaker 2>to come in. You know, they've changed everything they can

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>and they can't see him to figure it out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>late November, man, we can't be anchored to priors. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Garret. I think Garrett Wilson is easily one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten most talented receivers in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>He might even if brock Perty is active. And are

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<v Speaker 1>you taking a lot of cues from the potential weather

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<v Speaker 1>into ranking these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you hit the keyword with the weather, which is wind.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm looking for. You can offset snow. And

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes, as you guys talked about, defender doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know where he's going the offensive player does. It only

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<v Speaker 2>takes one slip and fall and you have a fifty

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>five yard touchdown on your hands. Although I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Debo is ever going to have a fifty five

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 2>yeard t He only has two touchdowns this year and

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<v Speaker 2>he has not been a target earner for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months now. I agree with you, Chris, that it

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<v Speaker 2>was overdue to move Jennings above Deebo a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the industry has been a little bit slow

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Of course, last week with Alan playing and

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, it's like a throwout week. I get it.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>But how healthy is pretty Even if Purty plays, which

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I think he will, I don't think Kyle Shanahan wants

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>to get him hit a lot. We don't know the

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 2>stats of Trent Williams. Their offensive line has not been

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<v Speaker 2>great this year, so you just have to get used

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to These are not the forty nine ers we signed

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<v Speaker 2>up for. We have to play for what they are

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and not what we want them to be. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think Jennings is still somebody you could play as long

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 2>as the wind isn't crazy in the four K. This

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<v Speaker 2>is again, make this decision as late as you can.

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I realize in most leagues by one pm Eastern you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to have a kind of an idea

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.959
<v Speaker 2>who you're playing and who you're not. But you'll make

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 2>a much more informed decision on Sunday than we can

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>do in the middle of the week. But yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>takeaway from me is Jennings is certainly above debo and

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 2>we want stats. It's the numbers, not the names. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the key takeaways.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, can I make one real quick point about this weather?

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 3>So I know like the inclination is for fantasy managers

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 3>to overreact to weather situations, and I think it was

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>last year. We had a game in early December where

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 3>it was a Saturday night game. Miami was visiting Buffalo

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 3>and we had blizzard conditions forecast for the game. At turnout,

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the wind wasn't that bad. There was snow and the

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>passing game it was not a you know, track meet

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 3>by any means, but the passing games were relatively unaffected.

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 3>If I recall, like Stefan Diggs still like seventy or

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 3>eighty receiving yards. I think Jalen Waddle had a long

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>touchdown catch in that game. So anyone who like just

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 3>flat out benched all their receivers in that game because

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>of the weather, a couple of them. Those people probably

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 3>had regrets. So I would just like wind is key

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Scott mentioned it. I think wind matters more with the

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 3>passing games than the snow does. And you know, we

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>saw the offenses work pretty well the other week with

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 3>the Steelers in Cleveland in that snow game. Just the

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 3>wind is the thing to keep an eye on.

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to echo that the idea that not that

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you want to be extreme in anything. Most things land

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>in the middle. But if you had to choose a

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 2>path of overreacting to weather or underreacting to weather, as

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 2>a general rule of thumb, I would say underreact to it.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.479
<v Speaker 3>I think people want to feel like they're managing their teams,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 3>and weather is one way that they can proactively manage things.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 3>But I think people tend to be guilty of overmanaging

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of cases.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>And the toughest thing about this is four games going

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>before Sunday that people are going to have to make decisions.

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think the way the not overreaction is just like,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>be done with Debo. I think that's the biggest approach

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I would do. Jennings, Yes, be out with Devo. There's

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>conflicting things here. I just want to point out there

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>are some meteorologists reports that are saying we could have

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty mile an hour wins in that game. That's not good.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But there's also some meteorologists reports that are showing that

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>most of the bulk of this will be Friday Saturday

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be a lot of clean up on Sunday

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and just cold. And that's the thing where you're going

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to still have big offensive outputs. So you know, if

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you have Sunday decisions, there you go. Unfortunately, you might

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>have to make some tough ones prior to that, and

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the easiest play is Debo kicks rocks.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, another thing too, you made a really great point there, Chris.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>That three games Thursday, one game Friday. So what does

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>this mean? Your fantasy matchup will have a lot more

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>definition in a lot of leagues on Sunday than it

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>normally does when this one game in the books. So

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a case of then you

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>can play to your do I need floor? Do I

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>need upside? Have I put up a bunch of points?

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Have I put up a couple of does what is

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 2>my opponent done? I try not to be crazy about

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>just put your best line about there. But if you're

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>in an extreme situation, you have a big lead or

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>you have a big deficit, that may affect your ceiling

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>floor decisions. And maybe it's a case of Okay, I'm

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>in pretty good shape here, I can make the safer play.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll just steer clear of this buffalo game, you know,

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So just keep in.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Mind that you're going to have more information about the

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>personality of your matchup, maybe in some leagues in week

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>thirteen than a normal week would allow.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, And then you know, wait for rock party as well.

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>For this all right, two more quick wide receiver ones

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore, He's got an ECR of twenty eight, and

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we've got a difference between you guys, Scott. You were

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>at ECR, so it's actually to start with you real quick.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>He breaks inside the top thirty little bit more of

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the circle of trust. Not quite there. You've got him

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<v Speaker 1>at ECR. Your thoughts off what you saw with DJ

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<v Speaker 1>Moore and Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, Man, I wish I could un see that

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams sack and overtime where he held the ball

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<v Speaker 2>for about twenty seven minutes. But Caleb did play better.

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<v Speaker 2>The offense has been better with Thomas Brown calling the shots,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though DJ Moore did not have the market

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<v Speaker 2>share we wanted, he caught all of his targets. I

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<v Speaker 2>still think he's the number one here, even if the

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<v Speaker 2>target share last week didn't reflect that. Troy, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bad matchup and this is a good defense even without

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden Hutchinson. They have playmakers on all three levels. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this is a Darius White pickup at the trade

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<v Speaker 2>deadline was a great move. But I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a game where DJ Moore is going to end

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<v Speaker 2>the day with ten targets, probably somewhere between sixty and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty yards. I'll give him maybe a forty percent chance

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<v Speaker 2>at a touchdown. I feel pretty good about more.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat, you are a bit lower. You've got him back

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<v Speaker 1>down at thirty five. Where you not what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>at DJ Moore this past week?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not. Oh, by the way, a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like Drew Locke is going to make the

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<v Speaker 3>start for the Giants on Thanksgiving Day, which frees up

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy DeVito to come eat pasta with you, Scott on

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<v Speaker 3>for Thanksgiving dinner. So yet DJ Moore was the wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver FOI in fantasy scoring last week. He came into

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<v Speaker 3>that game as the wide receiver forty two in fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>points per game. Caleb through a season high forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>passes last week, and only seven of them went to more.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually had a fourteen point nine percent target chair,

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<v Speaker 3>which is pretty anemic. It helps, though, that Moore has

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<v Speaker 3>been catching everything that's come as way lately last two

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<v Speaker 3>games fourteen targets, fourteen catches. I do think the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>are going to struggle against the Lions, who have the

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<v Speaker 3>lowest opponent passer rating in the league, and like slot

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<v Speaker 3>receivers do pretty well against the Lions, but perimeter receivers

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<v Speaker 3>do not. I don't think Dj Moore is someone I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really looking to proactively get into my lineups this week.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, one more, let's look at Briant Thomas with

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<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars. Jaguars are back doing the business. He's actually

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<v Speaker 1>moved up to twenty seven. He was thirty two a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit earlier. So you guys are both lower than consensus.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there was a little bit of a flip fit.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got him at twenty nine. Scott's got him at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four. Pat, Let's get some thoughts on Brian Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>He has left our circle of trust. But do you think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Lawrence theoretically back, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if they've gone hundred percent confirmed. If he is back

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<v Speaker 1>this week, I think he is. Are we feeling better

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<v Speaker 1>about Brian Thomas better?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know I feel guilty having him ranked higher

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<v Speaker 3>than Scott because I know this is a player Scott

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely loves and is probably more in.

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<v Speaker 4>Love with than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, mostly I'm just betting on a wildly talented

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<v Speaker 3>young receiver who's pacing for you know, a thousand yard season,

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<v Speaker 3>has scored five touchdowns, averaging ten point nine yards per

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<v Speaker 3>target in a bad offense, and now he gets the

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<v Speaker 3>starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a little bit of hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Texans aren't the easiest matchup, especially if they get to

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<v Speaker 3>Trevor Lawrence with the pass rush, but they have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the sixth most fantasy points to receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing, mister Pianowski. Your thoughts on Brian Thomas Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, encourage that he had eighty two yards

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<v Speaker 2>receiving against the good Detroit secondary and you know, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>the bye week has helped Jackson will figure out a

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<v Speaker 2>few things. I realize trusting Doug Peterson is not an

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<v Speaker 2>easy leap, but I'm hoping seven to nine targets here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bet on the talent and hope that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they streamline their offense out of the buy.

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