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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis en Buck

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Speaker 1: Section show kicks off. Now the Buck is back. As

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Speaker 1: you can hear. I mean, you could tell my voice

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Speaker 1: from plays after jury Duty yesterday where I served. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was honorably discharged from my jury duty or dismissed

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Speaker 1: from my jury duty, as in I showed up and

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Speaker 1: then they let me go. I'll tell you more about

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Speaker 1: that later on.

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Speaker 2: It was an interesting right off the top though, how

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Speaker 2: long are you now cleared without Do you know how

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Speaker 2: long you don't have to go back for?

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Speaker 1: In only one year? Wow? So it's it's yeah, this

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Speaker 1: may become a more regular occurrence in my life. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you real quick. The the the downside is

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Speaker 1: the the courthouse here in Miami Dade looks like a

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Speaker 1: Soviet penal colony or something. I mean, it looks like

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Speaker 1: where they would have sent you it. Really, a courthouse

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Speaker 1: should have Roman columns, sweeping entrance, you know, it should

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Speaker 1: there should be the majesty of the state. And it

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Speaker 1: really this it's called the Gerstein Building. I think down

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Speaker 1: to Miami Dade, it looks like something that you know,

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Speaker 1: Stalin would have sent his enemies to and it's not

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Speaker 1: even a prison, mind you, this is just the courthouse.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. But everybody actually was very professional. I

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Speaker 1: was impressed with the with one of the judges who

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Speaker 1: came out. We're in a room of about two hundred people,

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Speaker 1: I would say, just just stacked. I mean just people

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Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder and all these chairs. The judge came

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Speaker 1: out gave us a little pep talk. I know you

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Speaker 1: don't want to be here. I know this seems like

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Speaker 1: it stinks, but it is your duty, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here. That's the short version of it. Everything

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Speaker 1: was going great. And then after lunch, when I had

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Speaker 1: not been picked for a jury all morning and it

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Speaker 1: was getting close to I knew when I would get

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Speaker 1: dismiss one of the bailiffs kind of looked at me

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Speaker 1: a little funny. Clay and the judge in this one

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Speaker 1: trial had gathered us all in the hallway outside the

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Speaker 1: courtroom to tell us what our fate would be. There

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Speaker 1: was a last minute plea deal that was struck, which

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Speaker 1: I think this often happened.

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Speaker 2: I told you, as soon as they get the jury ready,

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Speaker 2: the lawyers, the pressure to get a deal done always

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Speaker 2: comes up. That's that's like ninety percent of the time

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Speaker 2: what happens. You're there to drive the negotiation in the settlement,

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Speaker 2: and I just wanted to know what the case was

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Speaker 2: even about. We never even found out. But the judge

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Speaker 2: was very, very friendly, very polite. She said, I know,

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Speaker 2: I have some good news for all of you. But

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Speaker 2: the bailiff came over and he looked at me and

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Speaker 2: you know, you get you know, he gave me the

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Speaker 2: look like wait a second, because everyone there thinks my

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Speaker 2: name is James, because technically that's my first name.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I know you. He's like, you're the guy.

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Speaker 1: You're the guy from Fox and from radio. And I

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Speaker 1: kind of gave him like a little quiet nod, and

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Speaker 1: I swear it turns a judge. He goes, Judge, you

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Speaker 1: see this, I know this guy from TV. I was like,

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Speaker 1: sh this is in front of all the other jurors, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, let's keep that, let's keep that down. And

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Speaker 1: then one of our Jewish brethren came over. He had

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Speaker 1: a yamakah, came over and he tuged my shirt and

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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, thanks for what you and Clay do

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Speaker 1: every day. I was like, yes, great victory, victory so anyway,

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Speaker 1: and then we all got to Smith, So that was

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Speaker 1: Jerry Dudy. Now let's get into news.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is a reminder you never want to

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Speaker 1: be the target of the criminal justice system. And I

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Speaker 1: know that people say, oh, Trump is unstoppable for us

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Speaker 1: and look what he's been through and nothing can stop Trump. Well, yes, true,

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Speaker 1: But just having to show up and be a criminal

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Speaker 1: defendant in a building like this for a lot of

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Speaker 1: people I think would be soul crushing and would really

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Speaker 1: out on more them. You know, just just having to

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Speaker 1: be there and you are on trial would be just

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Speaker 1: trying to sleep.

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Speaker 2: If you faced legitimate prison time and you knew your

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Speaker 2: trial was coming up, you're out on bail or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the amount of physical stress associated with the

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Speaker 2: criminal justice system is a huge part of the punishment itself,

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Speaker 2: whether you're found guilty or innocent.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to follow events yesterday from the JERM.

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Speaker 1: The Wi FI was kind of bad, unfortunately, so I

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Speaker 1: had to pop in it out is when does Bannon

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Speaker 1: report for his sentence.

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Speaker 2: He's in, He's in. I believe he I believe he

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Speaker 2: is now in the prison. And I know he did

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Speaker 2: been officially admitted in In theory, he would be there

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Speaker 2: until November one as a part of serving that four

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Speaker 2: month sentence, which I talked about yesterday, Buck, I actually

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Speaker 2: think is a hugely underdiscussed story that if you're just

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Speaker 2: merely associated with Trump, they're legitimately putting you in jail

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Speaker 2: for your political belief.

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Speaker 1: That they are absolutely tearing down any sense of fairness

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Speaker 1: in the justice system to get at Trump, not just

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Speaker 1: with Trump, but with people around him. I want you

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Speaker 1: all to know that we reached out directly to Steve

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Speaker 1: and his team and invited him to come on before

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Speaker 1: able to make sure everybody knows that he's being targeted.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we clearly stand with Steve. He's a

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Speaker 1: fighter for his principles and we wish him well while

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Speaker 1: he is dealing with what he's dealing with right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have Steve's the kind of guy who's

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Speaker 1: he'll make friends. I'm just saying he's very He's a

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Speaker 1: very charismatic guy. I'm sure he doesn't want to be

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Speaker 1: in prison, but I'm saying, you know, he's he'll be okay.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of a lot of faith and

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Speaker 1: confidence in him. He'll come out and he'll come out

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Speaker 1: even stronger. But I'll tell you this, Clay. The one

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Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for Well, it turned out getting

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Speaker 1: ready for nothing because I didn't get to sit on

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Speaker 1: a jury or even get to go through Vadir. But

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Speaker 1: the decision came down from the Supreme Court yesterday. And

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Speaker 1: I know you've talked through the you know, the the

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Speaker 1: specifics of it with the audience already and everyone's pretty

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Speaker 1: up to speed. But it was amazing because the twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour cycle has played out. What I've seen is

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Speaker 1: how many people have completely lost their minds and shown

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Speaker 1: themselves to be either either lacking in reading comprehension. I

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Speaker 1: mean they really have like a Soda Moyer level of

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Speaker 1: reading comprehension, which is not high. They're just so dishonest

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Speaker 1: Producer Greg pulled this together. I mean, I would say

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Speaker 1: this is a this is a win for Trumps, as

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Speaker 1: you discussed yesterday, insofar as it's very unlikely. I know,

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Speaker 1: I say there's still a chance, and I still believe

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Speaker 1: it's a chance, but very very unlikely. There's going to

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Speaker 1: be a trial before the election. But Trump keeps winning

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Speaker 1: as these things make their way through the court system

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Speaker 1: on the federal side. But they didn't say that he

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Speaker 1: can do anything. Far from it. They actually said that

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Speaker 1: not only can they be held liable, criminally liable for

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Speaker 1: personal conduct. This is what we said. He can't pludge

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Speaker 1: in his secretary to death with a candlestick in the

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Speaker 1: Oval office and then say I'm the president right, No,

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Speaker 1: you're going to prison. And we've all known that all along.

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Speaker 1: He can't take a bag full of gold coins under

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Speaker 1: the you know, under the desk, so to speak, in

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a a right as president to do that.

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Speaker 1: That's not within his presidential powers. All this is saying is,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the president calls for president calls for

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Speaker 1: an airstrike on a terrorist group in Afghanistan, that he

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Speaker 1: has you know reason to believe is a an imminent

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Speaker 1: threat to US security or interest. You can't lock him

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Speaker 1: It's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 2: The media freak out on this that I've witnessed, and

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Speaker 2: I know you got to tell us yesterday, but Clay,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Greg pulled this together. Just listen as

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Speaker 2: everybody play one for all practical purposes.

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Speaker 1: This is absolute immunity.

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Speaker 2: Trump. Supreme Court has to create him a king.

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Speaker 1: The imperial presidency is now made concrete, a big step

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Speaker 1: forward to having an authoritarian president. The blueprint on how

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Speaker 1: to end the rule of law a green light for

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Speaker 1: criminal activity.

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Speaker 2: Did the Court to say, yeah, you can assassinate a

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Speaker 2: political rival.

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Speaker 1: President Biden could dispatch the military.

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Speaker 2: Use Seal Team six to go after his political rivals.

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Speaker 2: Orders the Navy Sealed Team six to assassinate a political rival,

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Speaker 2: immune organized as a military coup to hold onto power.

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Speaker 1: Immune. That we must have bold and decisive presidents is

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Speaker 1: more important than the principle that we should have presidents

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Speaker 1: who obey the law.

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Speaker 2: This is a death squad ruling. Are all of.

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Speaker 1: Those people, and we know that was written Madou at

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Speaker 1: whole decision yesterday. It's not possible to read what the

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Speaker 1: because it's not even close to being true.

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Speaker 2: You and I are rare because we actually read. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a media. In media, the number

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Speaker 2: of times that I see people commenting on the stories,

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Speaker 2: the commentary, not the relation and reliance on the documents themselves.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this on the show before, but I

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Speaker 2: there read the document. When I was in law school,

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Speaker 2: I remember my contract's professor saying, Hey, we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about a lot of theories, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: discuss a lot of different ways to analyze contracts. But

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Speaker 2: there are three things that matter the most the contract,

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Speaker 2: the contract, the contract read the actual document, the number

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Speaker 2: of times Buck that people won't read their actual document.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought John Roberts did a great job responding

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Speaker 2: to this, and I've been critical of John Roberts before.

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Speaker 2: He addressed the craziness of the descent, which was unhinged,

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Speaker 2: and that is what is driving I think a lot

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Speaker 2: related to reality.

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Speaker 1: He said.

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Speaker 2: Separation of powers is the essence of our constitutional government.

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Speaker 2: If the president it behaves in a way that the

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Speaker 2: legislative branch believes is unacceptable, there is a mechanism to

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Speaker 2: remove him from power. And the president, as you said,

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Speaker 2: and is rightly laid out here, the difference between official

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Speaker 2: and unofficial acts is actually kind of a fascinating debate,

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Speaker 2: you know, because you can draw the line. But I

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Speaker 2: said yesterday on the show, Buck, I did labor and

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Speaker 2: employment law, whether or not someone acts within the course

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Speaker 2: labor and employment law when it comes to respondiat superior

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Speaker 2: but basically, whether your company can be held responsible for

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Speaker 2: The sentencing of Donald Trump for the thirty four convicted

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Speaker 1: what happened, the using basically of evidence that could not

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Speaker 1: have been used. Whether there's a work or not, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Bragg has indicated that he is open to delaying or

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Speaker 1: rather they've agreed with the request to delay the criminal

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Speaker 1: sentencing so that Judge Merchon can take a look at

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Speaker 1: this in light of the new Supreme Court decision. The

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Speaker 1: immediate upshot in Clay, I think you're a political analysis

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Speaker 1: on this is interesting. The immediate upshot, of course, is

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Speaker 1: probably about a month delay. It's unlikely they would get

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Speaker 1: to this as I understand that I was asking a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine who works on the federal judiciary side,

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Speaker 1: and he said probably until August, maybe even later. The

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Speaker 1: file briefs Brag will respond two weeks later. Then the

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Speaker 1: judge has to decide, and then they have to reschedule sentencing.

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Speaker 1: So there's like a bunch of steps now, so it's

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Speaker 1: not happening for at least really a month, maybe more.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, I think what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Is there starting to be a little bit of nervousness

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Speaker 2: that is settling in in the judiciary. It's one thing

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Speaker 2: when all this started and your judge merchand and you're

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Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg, and they thought to themselves, donald Trump's going

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Speaker 2: to lose to Joe Biden. We're going to help Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden win, and we're gonna get rewarded because Biden's going

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Speaker 2: to be in power, and they're going to give us

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Speaker 2: new raises. They're going to give us more attention. They're

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Speaker 2: going to give us opportunities to advance our careers. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a record scratch moment that's

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Speaker 2: going on. You hit in that poly market survey, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. They have a sixty

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Speaker 2: six percent chance that Donald Trump is going to win,

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Speaker 2: a twenty percent chance that Joe Biden is going to win.

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Speaker 2: Now that's with two hundred and nine million dollars bet

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Speaker 2: on that exchange. This is live odds for how they

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Speaker 2: think the election's going to go. They can feel it.

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Speaker 2: Judge Merchand can, Alvin braggcan, and I think what's going

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Speaker 2: on is there's not the same desire to try to

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Speaker 2: punch somebody when you think in about six months they're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to punch back a lot harder.

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Speaker 2: So I think in an ideal world, Merchand would actually

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Speaker 2: like for this case, and maybe even Alvin Bragg, for

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Speaker 2: this case to get caught up in appeals about whether

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Speaker 2: or not there is any presidential immunity involved here, so

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Speaker 2: that they don't put themselves out further. They basically have

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Speaker 2: backed the wrong horse. And you and I were just

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Speaker 2: talking about off air. Yes, they're in New York. It's

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Speaker 2: a blue state, it's a blue city. But if you

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Speaker 2: have a new Department of Justice run by an Attorney

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Speaker 2: General that Trump empowers to actually go out and root

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Speaker 2: out political corruption, even if they don't bring charges, you

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Speaker 2: don't want to get investigated by the Southern District of

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Speaker 2: New York, by some DA that is after you. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna come after your cell phone records, They're gonna come

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Speaker 2: after all your emails. They're gonna sit you down and

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Speaker 2: start grilling you on questions you don't want to.

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Speaker 1: Deal with it. And you also have to keep in

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Speaker 1: mind the president has been said that the most low

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Speaker 1: level mickey mouse nonsense. I mean, if Trump can go

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Speaker 1: away for business records, theoretical rate, you know, any little

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Speaker 1: tax issue. I mean that they have poked the bear

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Speaker 1: in a big way. I think that's a big part

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Speaker 1: of it. I think though maybe as big or big

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Speaker 1: as a part of it. Play too is I don't

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Speaker 1: think they know what they want to do in light

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Speaker 1: of meaning politically, I at this point have to assume

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Speaker 1: that Alvin Bragg is seeing what is happening around him.

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Speaker 1: He thought, I will be a hero, a champion for

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Speaker 1: Democrats forever by bringing this case against Trump, win or lose. Well.

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Speaker 1: The reason that calculation was in place was because the

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Speaker 1: belief was that it would help Joe Biden win if

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Speaker 1: bringing this results not only or if there's not only

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Speaker 1: a Trump victory, but the belief is that this was

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Speaker 1: part of the reason for the Trump victory. That changes

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Speaker 1: everything and from everything that we have seen so far,

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Speaker 1: I think if they tried to sentence Trump to thirty

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Speaker 1: days in Rikers Home confinement at Trump Tower for two weeks,

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Speaker 1: I don't care anything other than you walk free and

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Speaker 1: pay a fine. I think there would be a surge

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Speaker 1: of support, further support for Donald Trump, and then they

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Speaker 1: really would be looking at an election that is over

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Speaker 1: before it has even had a single vote cast. Then

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Speaker 1: I think that they would have to see this as

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Speaker 1: possibly the you know, the the the end for this.

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Speaker 1: So both of those things together, I think, are why

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Speaker 1: think about this. Brag is not He's not trying to

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Speaker 1: rush this thing through. And I'll be honest, I thought

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Speaker 1: that they were gonna get more desperate and more likely

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Speaker 1: to try something severe, you know, Judge murchahon and Bragg.

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Speaker 1: And now I see this, and I think Clay, I

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Speaker 1: honestly believe neither the judge nor the prosecutor here knows

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Speaker 1: what outcome is most in their interests, and that's really

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Speaker 1: what they're thinking about first and foremost. And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: the country's interest they don't care. No, that's one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent right.

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Speaker 2: And I as soon as I saw that, So I

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Speaker 2: don't think legally, I don't necessarily think there's much of

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Speaker 2: a hook here. I said yesterday, Buck, I think Atlanta's done.

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Speaker 2: I think that Atlanta, because of the ruling the state laws.

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Speaker 2: I think that case is finished, I really do. And

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Speaker 2: I think the Jack Smith case is all but dead

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to Jan six. Then all that maybe

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Speaker 2: the classified documents case can live on zombie style for

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Speaker 2: a little while. But I don't think there's a huge

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Speaker 2: hook on New York City because a lot of the

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Speaker 2: acts took place before Trump was elected. In other words,

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Speaker 2: he was paying this Stormy Daniels fees or whatever else.

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Speaker 2: I know some of the acts took place post election

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Speaker 2: and while he was in the White House, but the

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Speaker 2: actual payment from Michael Cohen took place before the election.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how much of a hook there

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Speaker 2: is there, But I think that they want there to

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Speaker 2: be a hook so they can take this out of

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Speaker 2: their control and just allow them to not have to

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Speaker 2: be the guy. Because think about your merchand right now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you got Donald Trump potentially coming into office. You've got

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Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg who has to give you a recommendation on

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Speaker 2: what should happen. Do you really want if you don't

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Speaker 2: put Trump in prison, the left is furious at you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you do put Trump in prison, you just imprisoned

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Speaker 2: the future president of the United States, who has sworn

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Speaker 2: political vengeance on you.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to do that? Well, this is what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say to you. Okay, let's just make

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Speaker 1: this really easy. And i'd ask all of you the

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Speaker 1: same question that I'm asking Clay. What would you do?

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Speaker 1: I would hope you're so.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I would have dismissed the case, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm an honest But if you're now, if you're a Democrat,

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Speaker 2: and you've shown who you are already, it can't be

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Speaker 2: what you would have done six months ago.

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Speaker 1: It's what do you do now?

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Speaker 2: I hope that the appeals Court will take this case,

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Speaker 2: and I say, as the judge, looking at all the

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Speaker 2: surrounding circumstances right now, I say, I think that there

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Speaker 2: is a legal argument that has to be decided on appeal,

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Speaker 2: and I don't feel comfortable rendering a verdict on this

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Speaker 2: from a punishment perspective, as long as there's this outstanding issue.

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Speaker 2: And I hope that it extends into a Trump presidency,

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Speaker 2: because we know we can't do anything for four years, right,

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Speaker 2: you can't punish the president of the United States, So

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Speaker 2: really all you have to do is drag this out

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Speaker 2: three or four months. So I hope the appeals process

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Speaker 2: takes place.

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Speaker 1: So I would agree with you, because really the short

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Speaker 1: version of your answer is I'm hoping I don't have

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Speaker 1: to do anything and that this gets taken out of

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Speaker 1: my hands. You're hoping to go punch his pilot on

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Speaker 1: this one and just be like, ah, I'm not in charge. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Repellate court's gotta make the choice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just a trial court judge. What do

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Speaker 1: you want me to do?

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Speaker 2: That's I think they're starting to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: of that settling in here. Not to mention if Biden's

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Speaker 2: not even the non you've been carrying the water for

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Speaker 2: a guy who may not even be running. You know,

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Speaker 2: like this is the politics. Don't miss how political these

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Speaker 2: judges are. They picked the wrong horse, right.

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Speaker 1: Horse, and judges have especially talking about federal judges, but

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Speaker 1: judges have aspirations to be to be office holders. They

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Speaker 1: want to be state attorney general, they want to be

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Speaker 1: maybe the US Attorney general. I mean, judges, like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have, have their own reasons for operating,

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Speaker 1: and self interest is the primary interest that people operate on.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is very interesting that they're delaying this,

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Speaker 1: and I mean Trump is just racking up wins right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, He's just there's this Trump momentum that

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Speaker 1: is pretty breathtaking for the last certainly the last thirty days.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls on this. What do

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Speaker 1: you think about the delayed sentencing in New York that

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Speaker 1: is going to be happening here? What's the move? And yes,

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Speaker 1: we will take your ideas for what's going to happen next,

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Speaker 1: although we all know that I'm writing and it's Biden

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Speaker 1: or Kamala. But anyway, anyway, we'll see maybe overear, if

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Speaker 1: you're the CEO, sorry, you've got this one. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: if you've got this, you've got it. Yeah, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can do it too. Yeah, but I'm on it. You

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Speaker 1: work hard for the salary, you'reine as you know everyone right,

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Speaker 1: reducing it to a dollar a year, that just seems

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Speaker 1: like a big move, doesn't it. My friend Porter Stansbury

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Speaker 1: did that. He runs a huge company that he founded

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Speaker 1: and is currently the CEO of, and he devised and

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Speaker 1: came up with this better plan that he wants to

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Speaker 1: share with you about how to get compensated. He calls

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Speaker 1: it a new form of money in America, making some

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Speaker 1: people very rich. It's not crypto or bitcoin. Thousands of

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Speaker 1: Americans in a whole range of full time roles have

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Speaker 1: already been compensated in this new form, from individuals working

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Speaker 1: in factories to offices to you name it. Porter points

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Speaker 1: out what's interesting is that while every American is legally

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Speaker 1: entitled to you use this not so well known secret currency,

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Speaker 1: I few know much about it. But Porter wants to

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Speaker 1: change that. He thinks the most critical way to protect

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Speaker 1: and grow wealth in the years to come is what

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Speaker 1: he wants to tell you about. Check out Porter's latest

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Speaker 1: four dot com. You don't know what you don't know right,

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Speaker 1: but you could.

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Speaker 2: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome

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Speaker 2: back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. We'll take some of your calls.

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Speaker 2: By the way, eight hundred is two two eight a two.

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Speaker 2: Some of you may have questions about what is going on,

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Speaker 2: obviously with all this crazy lawfare. But Bug mentioned the

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Speaker 2: polymarket feeds, and I do think these are significant, and

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Speaker 2: I understand some of you out there are skeptical of

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Speaker 2: the overall you know, the polling marketplace, I would say,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't mention this because it came down yesterday

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Speaker 2: and we haven't mentioned it yet on the show. Buck,

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Speaker 2: did you see that right now? Trump has the lead

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Speaker 2: in New Hampshire according to a Saint Anselm poll. I

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Speaker 2: believe that's a university up there that came out yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: He has a two point lead in New Hampshire. And

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Speaker 2: again some of you saying, I don't believe the polls. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he only lost New Hampshire, I believe in sixteen was

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Speaker 2: it seventy five hundred votes? I believe New Hampshire was

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Speaker 2: the closest state that he didn't win in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: We've also seen the disbelief in polls. I think comes

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Speaker 1: from when they always within the margin of error. There's

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Speaker 1: a belief that they would make the Democrat, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Democrat was always getting a few points, a few points, okay.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the polls in recent elections, Democrats

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Speaker 1: have not been you know, wildly out of step with

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Speaker 1: what the actual results were. Do you see what I'm saying. Yes, No,

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Speaker 1: that's right, basically correct in the last few elections. So

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Speaker 1: if they've been correct, I think we have some reason

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Speaker 2: Also, all these battleground states actually show the Democrat Senate

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Speaker 2: candidates running fairly well, by which I mean it's not

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Speaker 2: as if all these polls are just saying, hey, every

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Speaker 2: a state like Michigan, for instance, the Democrat senator would

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Speaker 2: be in the lead. In a state like Pennsylvania, we

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Speaker 2: hope McCormick's gonna win. Democrat senator in the lead while

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Speaker 2: Biden is behind. There are right now, Buck, and I'll

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Speaker 2: build on this a little bit more in the next hour,

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Speaker 2: because I do think it's interesting. There are ten states

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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden won in twenty twenty where Trump is

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Speaker 2: either leading or basically even in current polls. Ten and

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Speaker 2: I'll break some of those down for you next hour.

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Speaker 2: But what I think is significant about that is where

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Speaker 2: the battle is fought can tell you how the.

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Speaker 1: Race is going.

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Speaker 2: The only state that Democrats remotely believe that voted for

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Speaker 2: is North Carolina. And by the way, the math on this,

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Speaker 2: the betting odds are like eighty five fifteen now eighty

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Speaker 2: for sure, maybe New Jersey, maybe New Mexico, certainly Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan,

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