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Speaker 3: Here we go, jim On.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to another episode of Stupidity, the biggest podcast

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Speaker 2: Mikey A, we are pacing get again at a three

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Speaker 5: I mean how you are working me like a dog man.

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Speaker 3: This is exciting. This is exciting.

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Speaker 5: Wait have we done.

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Speaker 2: Three now three episodes per week for three consecutive weeks?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Uh? I think it's our third week in

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Speaker 3: three At Finny, my dog is very excited and you're

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Speaker 3: doing a third episode of Stupandy how about that?

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Speaker 5: And he's excited because I think he's excited because Jenny.

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Speaker 2: Rentes is coming on football writer for a journalist for

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Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated. We haven't spoken a lot about football here,

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Speaker 2: and Finny is really excited because Sam Darld is no

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Speaker 2: longer the Jets quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I have on that big Jeff fan fit again.

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Speaker 3: Are you all in on the Zach Wilson train.

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Speaker 2: We are both Jeff fans. We're both tortured. We've been

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Speaker 2: down this road before. We'll be down this road again, Mike.

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Speaker 3: I look forward to having this conversation four years.

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Speaker 2: I am all for the Jets taking a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I've said this for.

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Speaker 2: Years on our show, The Dan Levatar Show with Stu Gods.

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Speaker 2: Take a quarterback every year until you get that position right,

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Speaker 2: because that position is the most important position in sports.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Jets have never got it right, outside of maybe

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Speaker 2: at Sanchez back to back AFC Championship games, but they've

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Speaker 2: never really gotten it right, We've never really had a

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Speaker 2: three seasons that he is not the answer.

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Speaker 5: So I am okay with this. Okay at Sam Donald?

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, who is he that guy celebrating You

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Speaker 2: see that video of him celebrating. What Sam Donald is

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Speaker 2: York Jets didn't even want him. I get the hell Hawaiian.

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Speaker 3: Arnal celebrating so bad that he's finally away from that

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Speaker 2: Mike, if you're a great court, I believe you'll make

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Speaker 2: any team great, You'll make any tom. The Patriots were

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Speaker 2: Now it's the Bucks. Mike, you're upset why you like Donald?

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Speaker 2: You don't like Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I know you, No, it's it's not it's listen, Defending

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Speaker 3: Donald isn't really what I'm trying to do, because it's

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Speaker 5: Mike, hold on a second, how do you know Zach

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Speaker 4: It's a guessing game like that.

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Speaker 3: Because I've seen I've seen Zach Wilson come into this

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Speaker 5: All right, Mike, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: If they weren't taking Zach Wilson, would you be more okay,

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Speaker 3: I think they got great value for Donald. I just

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Speaker 2: But Mike, what are they gonna do? I mean, I thought,

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Speaker 3: I thought that what they could have done is they

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Speaker 2: Okay, and that's all that is fair. I will tell

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Speaker 2: and he became very good. This is gonna be interesting

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Speaker 2: because I know what you're thinking. I believe me on

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Speaker 5: That's what you're really worried about. Right, But would you

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have the guy Adam Gase thought was

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Speaker 2: on that. Mike at some point remind us on stupidity

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Speaker 2: to rank all the Jets quarterbacks in order. Okay, Joe

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Speaker 2: And what I'd also like to do was. What I'd

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Speaker 2: get them all. I get Pat Ryan okay, and don't

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Speaker 2: leave out Tom too. But even though he was a punter,

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Speaker 3: I remember when Vinnie testa Verdi went down. He came

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Speaker 2: With that said, let's bring someone who actually knows football.

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Speaker 2: Jenny Rentis Sports illustrated unbelievable journalists. She joins us, now,

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Speaker 2: thank you for doing this. I know you're busy.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, happy to do it. Thanks for asking me

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Speaker 6: on where are you from?

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Speaker 7: By the way, I'm from Pennsylvania originally Stay College.

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Speaker 6: Actually my parents taught at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you're in New York now your parents taught

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Speaker 7: Huh yeah, yeah, they were chemical engineering professors.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: And you're writing I know, I know, I mean.

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Speaker 3: About the NFL.

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Speaker 7: They weren't at first, but now they you know, now

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Speaker 4: But you're enjoying your life, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I actually went to school for science, so it was

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, Jen, now I want to understand. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, how many people butcher your last name?

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Speaker 7: I keep saying, I know, it's hard not to it was.

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Speaker 4: You know, Rents makes it easier on me, Mike.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I get people moved the art to like some Ventross,

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Speaker 2: So okay, well listen, I'm i one, John because I'm

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Speaker 2: certainly all over this to Sean Watson case and we'll

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I was studying biochemistry and molecular biology at

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Speaker 7: Yes, I did finish my science degree in biochemistry and

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Speaker 6: A thesis geo biology.

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Speaker 7: But there have been plenty of moments since then, you know,

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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Speaker 4: Or you love sports growing up?

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Speaker 6: I loved college football.

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Speaker 7: My parents taught at Penn State, so I watched Penn

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Speaker 4: On the podcast.

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Speaker 2: So what as someone who covered the Jets, who covers

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Speaker 6: I think it's a good move.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I have seen the stats that what this

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Speaker 7: But you know, I think it makes sense. I would

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Speaker 6: So I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a decent move, even though the Jets

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Speaker 4: I've been living forty years. Aga.

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Speaker 2: I had the two years with Rex where he was right,

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Speaker 3: But that's it. That's all I had.

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Speaker 4: Ninety seven with Parcels, that's all I had.

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Speaker 4: A free agent move? What's the move that's been made

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Speaker 7: I like the forty nine ers going up to number three.

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Speaker 7: And clearly there's someone that he believes he can get

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Speaker 2: I don't trust Shadahan. And the reason I say this

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Speaker 4: Jenny, are you reading that the same way or what?

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Speaker 6: I honestly have no idea.

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Speaker 7: I think that he's kept it pretty mysterious, and I

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Speaker 7: Like, how do you It's so hard hard to have

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Speaker 2: There's precious few cases where it has worked, Jimmy Johnson

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Speaker 2: being one of them. But the guy we all considered

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Speaker 2: to be the greatest coach in the game, Nick Saban,

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Speaker 2: if it weren't for him in.

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Speaker 7: Miami right well, but you know, he'd say, maybe if

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Speaker 7: they had signed Drew Brees it would have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was his decision he.

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Speaker 3: Chose. I love how he does that.

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Speaker 2: He blames them on the doctor, but he chose Culpepper, right.

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Speaker 2: He blames it on Danny Canell's dad, Mike that too,

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Speaker 2: he blames it. It's ridiculous, all right. So you have

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Speaker 2: done a great job. Jenny rents with us here on

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Speaker 2: Stupidody Sports Illustrated SI dot com. Check her out on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Jenny rent Trust.

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Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna do it. Mike is doing

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Speaker 4: good right up until that.

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Speaker 2: So you have done not a good job, a phenomenal

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Speaker 2: job of covering the Deshaun Watson case. So if you

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Speaker 2: could for us and our audience, where are we at

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Speaker 2: with Deshaun Watson right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think we're recording it today right after a

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Speaker 7: press conference from Tony Busby, who represents the twenty two

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Speaker 7: plaintiffs who have brought suit. And today they had one

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Speaker 7: of the women, Jane Doe, number one the first two

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Speaker 7: file suit, revealed her name publicly. She read a statement publicly.

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Speaker 7: They additionally read a statement from a second named woman,

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Speaker 7: she's another one of the Jane does they read her

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Speaker 7: statement publicly? And I think that is a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a game changer. Watson's camp has pointed to we

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Speaker 7: don't know the identities of the women who have filed

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Speaker 7: these claims, and they've sort of hid behind that in

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Speaker 7: a way as an as an explanation for Well, these

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Speaker 7: are all anonymous claims. So I think two women coming

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Speaker 7: forward with their names to their claims were significant. We

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Speaker 7: published a story a week ago with a woman who

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Speaker 7: is not a Tony Busby client. We independently corroborated her

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Speaker 7: story via messages and contemporaneous witness, and so I do

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Speaker 7: think there is a lot of evidence that has been

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Speaker 7: put forth publicly today certainly strengthened that, and I do

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Speaker 7: think we're already seeing it impact teams because the Panthers

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Speaker 7: making the trade for Sam Darnald, they were interested in Watson,

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Speaker 7: and were they not concerned and troubled by the allegations,

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Speaker 7: then perhaps they would have considered Watson to be a

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Speaker 7: possibility still, but they went forward with Donald instead. And

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Speaker 7: so at this point, there there's a lot of evidence

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Speaker 7: out there, and I think we're going to need to

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Speaker 7: see further response from the NFL and the Texans.

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Speaker 4: I wonder, and I'm interested in your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: If this story never never surfaces, is Deshaun Watson playing

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Speaker 2: for another team right now?

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Speaker 4: Is he in another organization right now?

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Speaker 6: That's a good question.

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Speaker 7: I think at some point this offseason there would have

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Speaker 7: been a change. I think he would have changed teams

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Speaker 7: at some point this offseason. I don't know when exactly

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Speaker 7: that would have come to a head. I don't know

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Speaker 7: if it would have been before the draft, after the draft,

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Speaker 7: if the team didn't get the quarterback they wanted in

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Speaker 7: trading camp, if he held out but I think there

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Speaker 7: he was dug into his stance that he wanted out

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Speaker 7: of Houston, and obviously this has changed everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be super interesting.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that kind of bothers me as and

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Speaker 2: I've said this for years on our show and you

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Speaker 2: don't need to comment on this if you don't want yet.

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Speaker 2: But as the father of twin sixteen year old girls

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Speaker 2: and so like, I hear people.

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Speaker 4: Say, oh, well, Deshaun Watton.

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Speaker 2: No, Deshaun Watson, he's such a good guy, does so

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Speaker 2: much charity work, community work, and all those things might

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Speaker 2: be true, But what I have said for years is

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Speaker 2: you have no idea who you're rooting for on a

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Speaker 2: daily or weekly base. You don't know these people and

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Speaker 2: you don't know the demons they have.

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Speaker 4: So you don't know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying Deshan did anything wrong, but fans just

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Speaker 2: to say, hey, I see them on TV. He's always smiling,

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Speaker 2: great endorseer, does community work.

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Speaker 4: Therefore you didn't do it. That bothers me, and it

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Speaker 4: has to bother you and it has to right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what's the role in journalism if you know if

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Speaker 7: your mother says she loves you, you've got to confirm

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Speaker 7: it or something.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think ultimately.

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Speaker 7: You never know anybody fully, especially in these covered situations

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Speaker 7: where you have limited access to people you're seeing the

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Speaker 7: polic persona they put forth fully honestly. A moment that

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Speaker 7: sort of changed things for me in terms of the

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Speaker 7: kinds of background research I do is when the Detroit

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Speaker 7: News I believe it was, came forward with the report

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Speaker 7: about Matt Patricia and the allegation of rape that had

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Speaker 7: been filed when he was I believe in college or

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Speaker 7: just out of college at the time. From that point forward,

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Speaker 7: I started doing a criminal record search on every single

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Speaker 7: person I do a profile on, just because you don't know,

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Speaker 7: and you need to do every you need to do

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Speaker 7: all of the vetting that you possibly can do. And

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Speaker 7: I don't ever take anything at face value, because you

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Speaker 7: know you're only getting a version that people are presenting publicly.

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Speaker 7: So it's your responsibility as a journalism journalist to vet

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Speaker 7: everything as much as you can.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna get you out of here in

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Speaker 4: a second. We're gonna play it.

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Speaker 2: We want people to get to know you a little bit, okay,

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Speaker 2: so they know they know you're very smart.

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Speaker 4: They know you know science and Mike, did you get

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Speaker 4: science questions?

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Speaker 3: By the way, I did. I did find some science questions.

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Speaker 3: If you really want to do this.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. We have to try it out. A perfect

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Speaker 2: day for Jenny Rent to us.

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Speaker 6: Is blank A perfect day? Well, I think it would include.

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Speaker 7: An outdoor walk, especially during the pandemic, that has been

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Speaker 7: my sanity. So I've been in Central Park like every

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Speaker 7: day I take a walk, and also seeing my family.

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Speaker 7: They live in Pennsylvania, my parents do. My sister lives

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Speaker 7: in Virginia. But it's just really seeing them is a treat,

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Speaker 7: and you know, I just you feel very refreshed, especially

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Speaker 7: because the business that we're in, you know, you get

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Speaker 7: caught up in this world wind of news breaking on

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Speaker 7: Twitter and difficult subjects to cover. So when I see

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Speaker 7: my family, it's like kind of that matters, you know.

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Speaker 6: So I would say do.

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Speaker 7: With my family, taking a nice walk outdoors, and probably

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Speaker 7: a ice cream.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I love ice cream.

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Speaker 4: That's a very nice, simple day for you. I love that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Favorite athlete to cover.

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Speaker 6: Is blank favorite.

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Speaker 7: I did a sports Person of the Year story on

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Speaker 7: Megan Rappino and that was my favorite experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what if you wouldn't mind telling us what makes

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Speaker 2: her so great and unique?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think she's really vulnerable. And we talked

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Speaker 7: about how you don't know athletes, and I think she's

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Speaker 7: aware of that, Like I think she doesn't want She

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Speaker 7: said that one of her biggest fears is that people

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Speaker 7: will think she's a fraud. And she's very aware that

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Speaker 7: people have this idea of you that is a public persona,

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Speaker 7: and she wants people to see all of these other

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Speaker 7: parts of her where she's feeling insecure or where she's

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Speaker 7: not sure if she does the right thing. I mean,

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Speaker 7: one thing she told me about was, you know, she

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Speaker 7: knelt in support of Colin Kaepernick, and for a while

589
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Speaker 7: she was worried about her spot on the national team,

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Speaker 7: but ultimately that was good for her career and she

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Speaker 7: became known in part because of that, and she feels

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Speaker 7: guilt over the fact that Kaepernick's career ended and hers,

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Speaker 7: and that was one part of sort of launching you know,

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Speaker 7: her fame and celebrity in a way. And I thought

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Speaker 7: it was really refreshing to hear her admit that that

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Speaker 7: she was conflicted and that bothered her. You don't often

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Speaker 7: hear athletes say that. And also I did the story

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Speaker 7: during a time when we were unionizing in our workplace

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Speaker 7: and the power of collective action and standing up for

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Speaker 7: things you believe in, and so just being able to

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Speaker 7: connect on some of those issues.

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Speaker 6: It was really meaningful to me.

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Speaker 7: I mean, sometimes you interview people and you just are

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Speaker 7: able to have conversations that go beyond just what you're

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Speaker 7: doing the story on, and I didn't, you know, I

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Speaker 7: only interviewed her a handful of times, but we were

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Speaker 7: able to build that connection, and so that was something

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Speaker 7: that has really stuck with me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's an amazing person.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been nervous for an interview because it's

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Speaker 2: someone you're a fan of and their personality is so

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Speaker 2: big or something like that.

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Speaker 6: I was nervous for that because she was.

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Speaker 7: The interviews were done in the fall of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 7: which was like the peak of her busyness, right, so

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Speaker 7: she barely had a moment to herself. She slept every

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Speaker 7: night in a hotel for like sixty straight days or something,

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Speaker 7: and so I knew I wasn't going to get a

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Speaker 7: panic attack for you know, three months leading up to

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Speaker 7: the story. Plus it was the sports Person of the Year,

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Speaker 7: so there was another pressure. And I'm like reading all

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Speaker 7: these other stories written by like Scott Price, which are

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Speaker 7: just like this other level of writing and journalism, and

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Speaker 7: it was just like very panic inducing. But I, you know,

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Speaker 7: I showed up to a couple soccer camps that she

627
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Speaker 7: had and we ended up talking outdoors in between sessions.

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Speaker 6: That's just this random table.

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Speaker 7: And then I went to Columbus and I had time

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Speaker 7: with her, and she said, you know, if you didn't

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Speaker 7: get enough time, like, why don't you come early in

632
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Speaker 7: the morning before my shoot. I'll be getting my makeup done,

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Speaker 7: doing the wardrobe stuff. Just come and talk to me then.

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Speaker 7: And so she did go out of her way to

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Speaker 7: carve out time. But I was just nervous, Like also,

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Speaker 7: she'd been written about everyone knew it seemed like everything

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Speaker 7: about her, Like, how could I write.

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Speaker 6: A story that was interesting something different?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was intimidating. But the comment about being worrying

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Speaker 7: people thought she would be a fraud. That was actually

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Speaker 7: an answer she gave. Kids asked her at one of

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Speaker 7: her soccer camps, what's your biggest fear? And that was

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Speaker 7: her answer, and I thought, well, that's really interesting, and

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Speaker 7: so we talked a lot about that afterward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is super interesting.

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Speaker 2: The thing you like to do most when you were

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Speaker 2: not covering the NFL is blank.

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Speaker 6: I like to travel.

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Speaker 7: My sister and I take a yearly trip somewhere. Obviously

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Speaker 7: we did not this past year, but we're looking forward

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Speaker 7: to resuming when we are. Well, she's fully vaccinated, I

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Speaker 7: have one of the two shots done.

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Speaker 4: She's too busy saving the world. I mean, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she's she's like volunteering at vaccination clinics, like she's like,

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Speaker 7: you know, like we talk about like, oh boy, did

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Speaker 7: I make the wrong decision. I look at my sister's

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Speaker 7: career path and I'm like, okay, but but yeah, we

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Speaker 7: took a yearly trip, so we went to One year

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Speaker 7: we did Copenhagen. Another year we did Portugal, Savannah and Charleston.

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Speaker 7: So that's probably the highlight of every year when we're

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Speaker 7: able to do that.

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Speaker 3: So what's been the best place.

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Speaker 6: I think Copenhagen was my favorite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was just it's amazing.

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Speaker 7: It was so and like you know, we went in

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Speaker 7: the summer, so it was light, so late and it

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Speaker 7: was just like the the Nordic air was like so fresh,

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Speaker 7: and we ate it. All these great restors, it's quite

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Speaker 7: this quis like I don't know exactly, but the cuisine there,

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Speaker 7: there's a name for it that I'm forgetting.

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Speaker 6: But New Nordic, I think is the cuisine. I'm not

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Speaker 6: even sure.

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Speaker 7: But my sister's kind of into food, so she picked

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Speaker 7: all these awesome restaurants.

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Speaker 2: But did you enjoy the sun being out that much?

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Speaker 2: Because I went to Reichavic once for spring break. Now

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Speaker 2: I was in college with a bunch of animals, okay,

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Speaker 2: and like we were trying to sleep and we couldn't

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Speaker 2: sleep because the sun. So my friend went out to

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Speaker 2: the hardware store. He bought some plywood and he put

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Speaker 2: it over the windows so we can sell.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we had to pull the blackout shades

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Speaker 7: in the hotel room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah all right.

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Speaker 4: The first concert you ever attended was.

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Speaker 6: Blank ninety eight degrees.

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Speaker 3: What what are.

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Speaker 5: You laughing at?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sorry, it's.

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Speaker 3: Not the boy band. It's not because because everybody went

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Speaker 3: through a boy band phase around that, but you went

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Speaker 3: for the third best.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you. I also saw the Backstreet.

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Speaker 7: Boys, but that they came to State College after ninety

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Speaker 7: eight degrees. So I could have lied and said Backstreet Boys,

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Speaker 7: but I have to be honest, it was it was

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Speaker 7: ninety degrees.

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Speaker 4: Have you been to a rock concert?

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Speaker 6: Good question.

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Speaker 7: I'm not a big concert person, and especially now, like

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Speaker 7: I can't see myself ever going to a concert again

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Speaker 7: because now big crowds have just, you know, panic conducing.

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Speaker 6: Right, I don't think I've been to a rock concert.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm very No, no, no, you are. You're the furthest

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Speaker 2: thing for disappointing, I promise you. But I am wondering.

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Speaker 2: The song that plays in your car that you will

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Speaker 2: sing out loud every time you.

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Speaker 4: Hear it is blank? Oh boy, there's God. Oh please

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Speaker 4: give me a boy band. Tell me what.

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Speaker 6: I mean.

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Speaker 7: I used to listen to a lot of fifties send

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Speaker 7: so like, I feel like any fifty cent song I

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Speaker 7: would sing out loud, any yance song really?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So what's the song Faded? That one always gets stuck

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Speaker 6: in my head? Oh Madonna? Definitely? Oh definitely, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's the one like a prayer and my sister

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Speaker 7: and I used to it would come on in the

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Speaker 7: rating and the card we would blow over the tops

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Speaker 7: of like coke can because you know that that so

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Speaker 7: we try to make that sound of that.

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Speaker 6: So I'm a vivid memory of doing this as a child.

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Speaker 4: I love that. The perfect meal for you is blank.

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Speaker 3: Nordic.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love a steak like once a year, so

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Speaker 7: I guess that would be it like a treat meal

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Speaker 7: or something. Yeah, I mean, well, I haven't had one

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Speaker 7: this year because I haven't made one at home. But

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Speaker 7: I do like fish, do like Nordic and a good

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Speaker 7: gluten free pizza.

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Speaker 4: All right, your favorite movie is blank?

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Speaker 7: Oh boy, So I'm that person that has seen almost

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Speaker 7: no movies, Like it's like a running joke. I remember

738
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Speaker 7: when I covered the Giants. We were interviewing a player

739
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Speaker 7: and he said, I just want the truth, and everyone

740
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Speaker 7: in the press room was like laughing after, like you

741
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Speaker 7: can't handle the truth.

742
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Speaker 6: And I remember Mike r.

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Speaker 7: Follo, I worked with the star Lighter, and he looked

744
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Speaker 7: at me and he's like, you have not seen that movie?

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Speaker 2: Have you?

746
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Speaker 6: But I've since watched it. I since watched it.

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Speaker 7: I mean clod Man sorry, yeah, yeah, I'm clueless is

748
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Speaker 7: probably my favorite movie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, favorite TV show. You don't have time for TV

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Speaker 4: or movies, it seems.

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Speaker 7: I loved The Good Wife. That's one of my favorite shows. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and Scandal.

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Speaker 2: I like Scandal at Scandal's fantastic sand Scandal is still

754
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: going on though, because I stopped watching.

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Speaker 4: That's Kerry Washington, isn't it.

756
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, it's it was? It ended like two years ago? Maybe, yeah,

757
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Speaker 7: but it was a good run.

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Speaker 4: All right, Mike, do you have Jen? By the way,

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Speaker 4: this has been fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone calls you, Jen, I should

762
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Speaker 4: ask you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, a lot of people do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this has been amazing. You have been great and

765
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Speaker 2: we hope to do it again. Mike, do you have

766
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Speaker 2: science questions here?

767
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Speaker 3: I did. I pulled up uh a science quiz.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna get them wrong. This is embarrassed.

769
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Speaker 4: Well, but listen, I have to do them to it.

770
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Speaker 4: But but you're supposed to get them right and I'm not,

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Speaker 4: so go ahead, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what is the function of the cell membrane? Oh?

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Speaker 7: It filters things that enter the cell and it's like

774
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Speaker 7: the barricade to the outside.

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Speaker 4: That was gonna be my answer, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it wasn't that is correct? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Good yet I can't even read that one. Uh? What

779
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 3: is the first stage? Stu?

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Speaker 7: Goats of my toes and you're gonna say, I don't,

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's let it. Let's him try and before

783
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: he steals your right hands.

784
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Speaker 2: The first step of mitosis is you have to take

785
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: a long, hard look in the mineral and really accept

786
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Speaker 2: who it is that you are.

787
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Speaker 4: Okay, mitosis.

788
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 7: I don't remember the name the cel I think it

789
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Speaker 7: has to replicate the DNA first.

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Speaker 3: Now I clicked on it and I get an It's okay,

791
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Speaker 3: I got an ad She's right. It won't give me

792
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: the answer.

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Speaker 4: No, you're you're correct, you are correct? All right, this

794
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: is fantastic. Listen, here's what I want to do.

795
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Speaker 2: Just ask her the questions, Mike, and then hopefully we'll

796
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Speaker 2: have her on again. And I am going to study

797
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: my ass off, okay, and then you and I are

798
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Speaker 2: You're not going to do anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm not the masters and m and ms. I want

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Speaker 3: to hear any more.

801
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: Let me, let me let me hear, because I like you.

802
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: I like seeing Jet A little bit uncomfortable here.

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Speaker 2: I guess this is making as I asked you a

804
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Speaker 2: football questions during your comfort zone.

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Speaker 4: We had to science questions. You get all nervous by

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Speaker 4: the way that.

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Speaker 3: The correct answer was interphase exactly.

808
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: Yes, that's okay.

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00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, disappointed in me?

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00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: What part of the cell contains the DNA? Let's see listen,

811
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Speaker 3: I have to submit the answer. I don't know. If

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00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: I knew, I wouldn't be working for you. And that

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Speaker 3: is correct.

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Speaker 7: Even I knew that, though I was gonna say that

815
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Speaker 7: one wasn't easy one.

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Speaker 4: Mike, you should have known that. That's why I was

817
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: getting mad at you. You don't think click on the answer.

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Speaker 3: I had to click on the answer after I clicked

819
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Speaker 3: through three ads.

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Speaker 4: Here, all right, I would figure you're a fan of

821
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Speaker 4: Big Bang Theory.

822
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 6: No, I would figure out I've never watched that show.

823
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Speaker 4: Actually, I love you delivered you. Yeah, I never watched

824
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: that last one.

825
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Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to pull one up here, A double

826
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Speaker 3: membrane with pores describes which of these virus mitochondria, nucleus,

827
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Speaker 3: lysom lysosome.

828
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Speaker 6: Double membrane with pores say the options.

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Speaker 3: Again, virus mitochondria, nucleus, lysosome L Y S O S.

830
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Speaker 7: The lysosome is where they like, it's like autolized stuff.

831
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Speaker 7: So I'm trying to think, uh double, I think that

832
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Speaker 7: the nucleus has a double membrane though, doesn't it because

833
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Speaker 7: there's a nucleolus inside.

834
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Speaker 3: Let's take a look.

835
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Speaker 7: I'm not sure it is correct correct plus?

836
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Speaker 6: Okay, plus, that's good.

837
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Speaker 3: That's curve.

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Speaker 7: I've got to study up on mitosis. I feel I

839
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 7: feel embarrassed that I didn't remember that one. My sister's

840
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 7: going to make fun of me.

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Speaker 4: I'll make you a deal. Okay, Well, let's have your

842
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: sister on and your dad.

843
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: Okay, I want the whole family.

844
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Speaker 6: That would be great. They would enjoy that.

845
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Speaker 4: I get your sister on my team.

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Speaker 7: Okay, oh well then there will be no contest. My

847
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 7: sister was actually on Jeopardy once, so he was she

848
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Speaker 7: really Yeah, so she's really good at the tributa.

849
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Speaker 3: Had she do with Jeopardy.

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Speaker 7: She didn't win, but we're very proud she made it

851
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Speaker 7: on because you have to like take the tests and everything.

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Speaker 4: How did you feel about Aaron Rodgers appearance as really good?

853
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Speaker 6: He did a great job.

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00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: Can I tell you what? Can I tell you what

855
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: drives me crazy?

856
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: He is going to end up doing both he's going

857
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: to play quarterback and host that show at the same time,

858
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna be Green Bay fans who call into

859
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: a local sports radio station and rip him for not

860
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: focusing on football.

861
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 6: You're right, that is a predictable out there.

862
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: He threw that interception because he was too worried about

863
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: reading the right answers on Jeopardy.

864
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: Yes, so here's what we'll do.

865
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Speaker 2: Me and Mike, okay versus you and your sister is science?

866
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Speaker 3: Can I be on team? Can Mike? Mike?

867
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Speaker 2: The funny thing is if we beat them, Okay, so

868
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: just study Mike. That's all, okay, all right. Jenny Rentes,

869
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Check out her work Sports Illustrated.

870
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Speaker 2: If you're interested in you should be in this de

871
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: Shan Watson case because it's some serious, serious stuff and

872
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: still a long ways to go here. Jen has been

873
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: all over it from day one. Rate work on SI

874
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Speaker 2: dot com Sports Illustrated, and check her out on Twitter

875
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: at Jenny Rentis.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate this. This was a lot of fun. We

877
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: hope you enjoyed it.

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00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me. I enjoyed it as well.

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I really enjoyed our time

881
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: with Jen there. She was fantastic. A little bit wound

882
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: up at the beginning, but she really loosened up and

883
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: showed her personality. I don't know, I don't know what to.

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00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: Do with this bit of information.

885
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: Now that she's off the zoom and we could talk

886
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: about her, I wanted to tell her she made a

887
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: bad career choice. She's way too smart to be covering

888
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: the NFL, Mike, she could be contributing so much more

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